I'm playing it for the very first time (sotfs edition). I was really enjoying it up until this place. Fuck Iron Keep, what a miserable piece of shit level.
What a great level
>>748157837He filtered millions
>>748157837>Enemies aggro you across the map and just keep coming with that stupid run animationAbsolute DS2 kino
Me and my 15 brothers heard you talking shit, now prepare your anus coz we're all going in at the same time
>>748158642Feels like you're entering a truly hostile environment you dont belong.
>>748157837iron keep and the black gulch are legit one of the worst levels put in any video games and that's coming from some one who defends this dogshit game
Iron Keep is legit one of the best levels in gaming. It's like one big adventure sandbox
>>748157837SOTFS BUTCHERED the Iron KeepThe people who made that glorified romhack fucked up majorly and made the Iron Keep more difficult than any other part of the base game. SOTFS peaks in difficulty before you get all four lord souls its FUCKING STUPID.
I couldn't get through the giants forest or whatever because my weapon kept breaking. absolute b.s
>>748158951and thats a good thing
>>748157837the great filter
the real bullshit level if you hate Iron Keep is Shulva
>>748158334Cool Ranch Smelter Demon is harder than the Ranch variant
>>748158949Kek once I figured out you can lure enemies to the falling platform I aggroed everyone in the area, beautifully dodged everything until they were placed right, as I sprinted to push the button I was hit in the back by a tracking homing arrow from the faggot archers which sent me to the lava. I ended up methodically clearing out every single enemy until they despawned after that just so I could get to the fucking boss without dying.
>>748157837I wiped out all the guards leading up to smelter demon out of spite. They annoyed me that much. I don't usually like the enemies disappearing thing in 2, but I made an exception for the first half of iron keep.
OP here, I don't know where to go after beating the iron king. I think I've beaten four of the bosses the firekeeper talks about but nothing happened. Can I get a hint?
>>748159641You need to go to the shrine of winter which is found in the shaded woods
>>748159641good time to start the DLC tb.hif i had to get my shit kicked in by Shulva then so do you
>>748159804You wanna do the dlc after getting the ashen mist heart and talking to Vendrick
>>748159698Ah okay, I ran pretty much straight through the woods until I got to the shaded ruins. Makes sense I missed something there.
>>748159948not the other guy, but I've got to vendrick, got the kings ring, mist heart etc. whats the point of not going straight to DLC after you've done most of drangleic castle?
>>748159804I don't even know which parts are dlc or how to get to them. I'm going in pretty much blind
>>748160130the primal bonfires. go back to them. they're the bonfire that unlocks after each of the 4 main bosses. then go through a doorway that is past the primal bonfire.
>>748160026It makes the most sense story wise and just feels like a good penultimate adventure before doing throne watchers and Nashandra
>>748160026You need ashen mist heart to fight Sir Alonne and to get the last smelter wedge
>>748160130>>748160305Bear in mind, in SOTFS you need to find the keys to unlock the DLC areas and they're hidden in some pretty hard to find places
>>748160320hmm well okay, I didn't know *that* but I did already spoil myself a tiny bit by reading about smelter wedges and figured I shouldn't waste them on shitty weak idols and should save 4 for when I get to the boss. brume tower is pretty neat so far.just fucking hate shulva. if you got any tips for not getting my shit kicked in on the actual first fucking area on shulva, then I'd be grateful
One of the greatest levels Fromsoft has ever put out there. Feels like a real keep you have to slowly fight your way through. Do you want a checkpoint? You have to earn it. Either beat Smelter or do the Belfry Sol rodeo.
>>748160556>>748160320also I am using a hex build (dark orb spam). up to now I haven't even needed a shield lol. even with a shield (watchdragon parma) I got my ass beat.
The more play throughs I do, the less fun the level is. It really starts to become a slog.
>>748157837Reminder that Original Dark Souls 2 is superior to Shit of the First Scholar:1. SOTFS ruined the lighting system, cranked up exposure and ruined the entire aesthetic of the game.2. SOTFS enemy TYPE placement is nonsensical and illogical, it ruins immersion and environmental storytelling.3. SOTFS healing upgrade item placement (estus flask shards and sublime bonedust) are inferior to that of the Orginal Dark Souls 2.4. SOTFS ruins the progression, flow and exploration of the game by adding a lot of shitty petrified statues blocking off areas for no good reason.5. SOTFS nerfed many bosses and their damage, turning the game into a casualized garbage game. 6. SOTFS nerfed a lot of the encounters with the normal enemies too, only a few encounters were made harder in SOTFS. Contrary to popular belief, as a whole SOTFS is much easier than the Original Dark Souls 2. SOTFS is a casualized garbage game.
>>748157837What happened to the Sun in Shit of the First Scholar version?
>>748157837just walk slowly and aggro the knights one at a timeor skip the smelly demon fightor git gud and find a way to run past everyone and get to the fogdoor regardless
>>748158949looks pretty boring, ngl
>>748158951Shrine of Amana and the Giant Memoried are just as difficult imho
The sheer quantity of bullshit per spawn you have to do just to corpse run and re-attempt the boss is probably the highest in any souls game. I heard Khazan is also like this but im not sure.
sotfs is for real men. vanilla is for male junior.
>>748158951Literally not hard if you dont run in like a spaz.It's been acknowledged that the knights aggro from far away, so why not let them come to you one at a time?Surely you dont keep doing the same action over and over then get mad that nothing changes, right?Surely you have a ranged weapon, or a strong enough main weapon to kill them in a few hits?You arent bad at video games, are you?
>>748157837This was so easy as Mage. Feels good playing the best build.
>>748158949Why was 2 the only one with environmental interaction and immersive sim elements? DS2 isn't just open in terms of how many areas you can visit or bosses to kill, but also how you access areas. There's like 4 different ways you can access the gutter. You can fight an optional boss, you can tank damage by investing in vigor and just dropping into the well. You can buy a ladder. You can buy a ring that helps you take fall damage. You can cast a spell. If you wanna get to Huntsmans Copse you can pay the lady a tax or just kill her ass and take the key for yourself.
>>748158951It's criminal how badly dragon shrine got butchered in SOTFS
>>748158334I'm convinced this boss was the entire justification for health gems.
>>748157837This nigga fall for the bit lol
>>748157837Only issue was the Alonne Knight spam.
>>748163296Because Miyazaki master of flat geometry swamps and rhythm game combat had nothing to do with the game.
>>748163381You mean how it was turned from a run-of-the-mill gauntlet into a memorable test of valour?THAT butchering?
>>748163296The roll in 3 looks so goofy.
>>748163296You can blame Miyazaki for literally everything wrong with this series.
How the fuck does this happen?
How do we make sure Elden Ring 2 is great like Dark souls 2?
>>748164147>ER enemy is 5 feet away and doesn't aggroBut lets make sure the boss takes 5 hours to kill and one shots you if you dont have 60 vigor because that's important!
>>748164148If Miyazaki really doesn't like sequels let him put his money where his mouth is and fuck off
>>748162769>>748162837Hey look, its the schizo that shows up in every DS2 thread
>>748157837levels too short full of death pits while simultaneously full of archers and very unrewarding
>>748157837Why do you guys hate hidetaka myazaki that much?
>>748157837THE DLCs ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST OF WHAT DARK SOULS CAN OFFER. I think. So far. Entire buildings that shift and move, rotating doors that give access to buttons by firing arrows at them from an elevated angle, enemies of many types and not only the same armored faggot you kill the same way, sinuous main road taking you on a scenic trip around the central main piece of the level ( and when you get inside it's even more elaborate ). Are the next dlcs on the same level as the first one? IT'S GOOD.
>>748158949there was many more enemies in my version is this vanilla?
>>748158504>>748158949what a batshit crazy level this was man I love it. fuck the haters.
>>748164767vaatividya.
>>748157837I recently finished Sotfs, but I used the Seeker of Fire 2.0 mod, it genuinely fixes the game. Lads if you have problems with ds2 id highly recommend it, its wicked
>>748161460Don't use magic in the DLC areas as all enemies and bosses have fucktons of elemental resist
>>748168652>hex build>don't use hex buildlollmfaothanks fromsoft
>INT + FAITH = Dark MagicWhat did they mean by this?
Is it unwise to level up armor pieces? The stats go up but damages done to me look vastly similar and so there's a discrepancy between my big numbers on my stat screen and what's happening in the game.
>>748171208Elemental resistance is the main reason I keep at the very least the stock clothes on. Seeing poison buildup with and without armor is a pretty big difference.
>>748171571I boughted a million green moss so I don't care about poison. Moss is good and I'm tired of the anti moss narrative.
>>748157837>say 5-2 is shit>DeS fans agree>say Izalith is shit>DS1 fans agree>say Farron Keep is shit>DS3 fans agree>say Nightmare Frontier is shit>BB fans agree>dare to say that Iron Keep is shit>"FILTERED! GAME IS FLAWLESS AND YOU'RE JUST BAD! SKILL ISSUE"what causes this
>>748171712It was jist an example, but it applies to the other statuses too.
>>748167998every single one of that retard's theories were disproven by the firelink conspiracy what a retard
These threads are made by bots right? who gives a shit about the worst entry of a has been IP
>>748158334watching dsp fight him for the first time is still uber kino
