>今思えば――疑うべきだった...Google translator>Now that I think about it, I should have doubted it.Agness Kaku the troonslator>The whole thing stank... but our noses have been out in the cold too long.
>>748165123so? that's what localization is esp for a blockbuster style thing. you have to take liberties.
they both suckeven if accurate, the japanese can't write for shit.
>>748165269alright wise guy post yours.
>>748165123Agness took the original Japanese as more of a...suggestion.
>>748165123soulless vs soul
>>748165123i don't play japanese games because i want to experience japanese culture you fucking retard, i play japanese games because there is no alternative, they should all be americanized and injected with standard american values following the most popular american IPs, such as star wars and transformers
The translations massively improved MGS.
OP is a shit-encrusted faggot. They mean the same thing, it's just a noirish metaphor.
>>748167234>i play japanese games because there is no alternative,What do you mean? There are games being made all over the world, including in America.
>americans think this is coolI pity you EOPs
>>748167414name 10, no, 25,392 games not made in japan without using googleoh, you can't? heh, too easy
>>748167193This but backwards
>>748167383It's a very, uh, creative interpretation. Essentially a loose paraphrase rather than a translation.
>>748167726>the comment is directed to the playerShe was genuinely retarded
>>748165336Nta. "In retrospect, it was obvious."
>>748167726This is the chick from the Steak video? She's terrible and pretentious to boot.
>>748167726what's crazy is, in this interview she's 100% objectively right, but the obese neckbeard luddites on this website will say she's wrong because she has a vagina and hasn't only watched boss baby her entire life
>>748167726>待たせたな!>think I'd wait forever?One job, Agness, you had ONE JOB.
3rd option: Delete the entire line because you shouldn't need Snake constantly talking and dumping exposition to tell the story.
>>748168175Kojima deleted Snake from the game. Practically the same thing.
More like fagness
>>748168106In many ways, she defied her boss baby (Kojima).
>>748168175[hayter voice] exposition?>pause and disc whirring noises as game loads 1950s educational FMV
>>748165123> Parody/Pastiche of American media> Character literally named after Jon Carpenter movie> Font stolen from Blade Runner> WAHHH WHY DID THEY MAKE IT AMERICANYou faggots do nothing but bitch about translation work when you don't even have media literacy, let alone English or Japanese literacy
>>748165123it means the same thing, just through a metaphor rather than speaking literally and its not like it doesn't fit the tone of the writing. there are countless examples of bad video-game translations but this isn't one of them.
Remake this thread with "After the end of world war two, the world was split into two."
>>748167726To think MGS2's original script is somehow even worse.
>>748167726Her localization is objectively better. If she didn't change the lines, then it would have been memed on for bad writing like blue stinger
>>748167965>>748168594"World War Two broke the world, right down the middle. Thus began the Cold War."R8 me
>>748167726>Think I'd wait foreverIlliterate JAPS in charge of localization. Still better than the modern trannylators.
>>748165123>Ya know, now that I think about it, the situash was pretty sus lolFixed
>>748165123But I thought Kojima got rid of "bad localization" after MGS1?
>>748168349>mecha>superpower fags running around that DON'T wear spandex>main character is a virgin>cyborg ninja>kuwabara, kuwabara>aidzuchi (Snake repeating what he just heard constantly is just a normal thing in Japanese)While MGS is undoubtedly strongly influenced by American media as Kojima is a big westaboo, it cannot escape its fundamental Japaneseness.
>>748168434It doesn't mean the same thing, particularly the second clause, but it's not so divergent that the story is changed.
>>748168836That's only because she purposely provided a poorly worded "literal" translation to prop up her own writing.
>>748165123could be way worsein a round about way this actually makes sense as opposed to a lot of pre 90s translations which were way off by comparisonpeople are spoiled now
>>748167910They all are.
>>748167726>and I like Cormac McCarthyStopped reading here. MGS is as edgy as it gets but McCarthy's writing is outright shit.
>>748168836A lot of her "work" didn't even make into the game. Some of it did, but they had to axe much of her garbage.
>>748165123Why is Raiden so fucking thick
>>748169698Remember the tranny in his book The Passenger? lol
>>748165123It's a good translation, though.
>>748169265The literal translation is not poorly worded. Japanese speech and Kojima's writing are just not very colloquial when written in the standard Kanto/Tokyo dialect. American English is way more personible in a way affected by profession, class, and state.The only thing I disagree with is the removal of "kept you waiting, huh?"
Yeah let's instead have Anime type 30 second pauses between each sentence because people definitely talk like that
>>748167726>that thing with Naomi
>>748170210>I don't plan to relying
>direct TL is much worse and isn't what people love MGS dialogue forKojima is literally never beating the hack allegations.
>>748165123That's a good translation
>>748169056That doesn't mean dialogue should be localized directly. The game is set in America and features paramilitary characters. They are going to use a style of speech very different from what a Japanese author is familiar with.You can see the improvement when she added the radio procwords, for example.I do think it's weird they didn't translate the la-li-lu-le-lo as something that made sense in English. I wonder if it's because Kojima stuck his heels down on his own middling English skills like Anno did with "third children" in Evangelion.
>>748167726>Over.Over.>Over.Over.>OverWhat a dumb bitch, no wonder kojima didn't like it
>>748167726>OverWhat the fuck is this larping shit? Dubfags need to neck themselves
>>748170746>They are going to use a style of speech very different from what a Japanese author is familiar with.I've never been in that situation but I'm going to guess that realistically guys like that don't speak like hardboiled noir detectives from the 30s. They'd probably keep things terse and straight to the point because they are used to doing comms that way in the middle of battle because any second they could get fucking shot if they decided to focus on wording things in a fancy way instead of the battle situation.
>>748170461holy fuck FF7R is unbearably anime how could anyone stand it.MGS4 Dirty Tools got updated and I'm adding the Metal Gear Solid themes to the iPod finally!Now if only someone could figure out how to give Old Snake his proper beard.
>>748165123Fire all translator and let AI do it, stop ruining the original writer's shit ffs
>>748171085FF7R is translated in the exact same style as every Final Fantasy. Which is to say heavily rewritten to where "fans" claim the EN script is cowritten along with the Japanese as cope.
>>748165123Bing>Now that I think about it—I should have been suspicious...
>>748171242But, and this is important, it sticks of anime in a way that the last game I played that had voiceover (FFX) didn't
>>748167726She's right. However...>I'm happy as long as no one slips a mickey Finn in the morning glass of ojI don't think she's the right one for the job either
>>748171089There is always the chance that the translator is a better writer than the author.
