Persona 4 Remake CONFIRMED CENSORED
>>748184420Did they make naoto trans?
honestly anime fanservice is garbage Id rather they have actual interesting plots instead
AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'M OVERSTIMULATED SAVE ME JAPANAMAN
People who think the game will be the same are for a rude awakening
it's over...
To the surprise of absolutely nobody.
shit scene who cares, oh wow look at these stick figures in a bathIm more angry about the removal of tranny jokes
>>748184420they probably put towels in that one scene where the girls were bathing naked
>>748184420Unrelated but how do I expose a Persona fan Larper?Like I know someone who acts like he played all the games but I'm sure that he only did P3,P4 and P5R.How to expose him about P1 and P2?
>>748184420I genuinely do not understand how these advisory firms like SweetBaby weren’t just one and gone jobs. How do they still have this huge pull after costing these companies literal billions in revenue?
>>748185776stop giving a shit about such childish things
Could anyone explain to me why the getting bumped up a rating to B or C is considered a death sentence in Japan? I could understand anything higher, but those two make devs shit themselves the most.
>>748184420this is [GOOD NEWS]
>>748185776nobody played p1 and p2 faggot
>>748185776Simple, you ask him if he played P1 and P2 and if he says no, he's a genuine fan.
>>748186392japs are honorable and would never play a game if they're too young
>>748184661Can't have one without the other, tourist.
>>748185776P3-5 may as well be a completely different franchise, you can't fault someone for only liking one era of it. It's the same with Jojo and how I hate everything after Part 2.
>>748184420>a bit too stimulatingand some are wondering why birthrates went to shit
Say goodbye to the high-cut armor.
>>748184661They're not mutually exclusive, eunuch.
>>748185942>How do they still have this huge pullThey don't.What you're looking at are a bunch of crusty old Japanese businessmen sitting around a board room and asking themselves what the current trends are around the world and forming content guidelines. It's not about some shadow cabal twisting their wrinkly nuts, it's not about wanting to virtue signal, it's all about creating the least offensive product possible for global release.You could argue that P4's unashamed Japanese styles and influence are what led to the fucking series being popular to begin with, but where you see soul, the geriatric suits see headaches, lost revenue, and PR nightmares. That's all there is to it.
>>748188863i want to stick my tongue in there
>>748189521>weird japanese thing becomes popular for being weird and japanese>suits and localizerts decide that from this point on they will make it less weird and japanese to appeal to the international audience>IP stagnates and inevitably falls offFuck this cycle.
what percentage of these kinds of posts are discord tranny false flags at this point
>>748189663I'd say Trails is following this cycle, but let's be real, that's the least of the series' issues atm.
>>748188863That's Naoto's Coronet Armor you fucking retard.
>>748184420Thank you XBOX!!!! Thank you ASHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>748184661Interesting stories and characters are inherently 'adult'. You are not going to build a fiction of any depth when everything has to be approved for a child. Practically every major drama and stress in life is something you don't want a child hearing, seeing, or knowing about. Alcoholism, rape, sex, domestic abuse, political scandal, murder, unwanted pregnancy, criminal elements, weapons, drugs, blackmail, government corruption, crooked cops, child abuse, etc. And, yes, that includes sexual desire and appeal such as fan service.By the time you sterilize all the maturity out of story, you're left with sesame street. And that's not fucking interesting. People shit on Starfield a lot, but this is one of the core issues with that game as a story-telling device. It is completely sterile and boring.
>>748184420>Bath scene>overstimulatingMeanwhile tits, panties, sex, perverted shit and even pedoshit has been part of Japans media and anime since like half a fucking century
Have you tried rewind, reboot, restart, reinstall your dev team, atlus?Is there new Marie content?
>>748191779attractive characters, and fan service by extension, are crucial for building up the readers bond with the character. as fictional as they may be, an injustice against a character you feel drawn to and sympathetic for is going to hit a lot harder than some ugly faggot with no curb appeal. no one cares about the uggos.
>>748184420The average persona player is an adult male so I don't see why they needed to lower the CERO rating.
>>748191290Sperg.
>>748193140I don't think they needed to so much as it being a byproduct.
>>748193140Its because shops in Japan will actually refuse to sell higher rated games. Unlike in the US or Europe, you actually can't have kids in stores that sell games in a certain age bracket. Its also why Nintendo tries to keep Smash at a lower age bracket, they can't have kids at a tournament if it was CERO B. Japan is fucking stupid about this shit and will slap offenders with huge fines. This has resulted in devs trying to keep the rating as low a possible, so that they get into every physical shop they can, thus maximizing profit.
>>748193736Surely, there is a difference between a kid's game on Nintendo and a game marketed towards high schoolers.
>>748193736>shops in JapanEven assuming what you said is true (I doubt it because Japanese publishers were never really afraid of ratings like this before, especially adolescent and adult oriented games like Persona), Japanese shops are irrelevant because Japanese publishers make their games primarily for the west now with Japan as an afterthought because stupid nips only play gacha. Like >>748193582 said, this is most likely just a byproduct of censoring the game for “western standards”, like how the latest Neptunia mainline game dropped to CERO B from the series’ typical C not because they wanted a lower rating but because they were so scared of getting rejected by Nintendo again like with the Re;Birth trilogy ports that they excessively self-censored.
>>748184661Well you aren't getting an interesting plot either way, so you want the panties or not?
>>748194306Japan practically worships stupid shit like this. If you get a higher rating, it is a mark of shame, not pride like the west. They have cucked themselves out of being perverts and it doesn't have anything to do with making games for western standards. For the last twenty years they have thought like this, when they were still thinking they could keep things to just Japan. Slowly but surely, the way that Japan has made games has changed and its because they don't want to be seen as the>Weird thing that otaku do in the darkanymore. Blame Nintendo, Blame Sony. Doesn't really matter, this is a cultural problem that Japan has faced for damn near the last twenty years that idiots began to worship instead of throwing the shackles off because they got Stockholm syndrome. Just like every other problem going on in Japan right now.
>>748193736You're an idiot. The CERO rating itself has existed to prevent the issue you are describing. Stores don't refuse to sell CERO A to D rated games. The only thing that can be tricky is CERO Z because that 18+ age rating has to be properly zoned away from all-ages material within stores.>>748194306If you read the Taiwanese interview, (at least with a machine translation), the situation is more like what you're describing with Neptunia. They weren't aiming for CERO B; instead, the censorship resulted in a lower rating as a byproduct.https://gnn.gamer.com.tw/detail.php?sn=312037>Q:原本的 P4G 分級是 CERO C,這次降到 CERO B,具體來說是哪些部分的修改導致分級下降?>矢島:其實 P4 原本就是 CERO B,是到了 P4G 才變成 CERO C。分級會上升是因為某個洗澡的場景,那段動畫稍微有些刺激,所以這次我們重新審視故事後改變了其呈現方式,替換成了稍微不同的事件。因為那個場景沒了,所以就順理成章地,分級也回歸到 CERO B 了。>和田:並不是角色的陰影人物變得比較溫和而使分級下降。Note: The first name, 矢島, is Director Daisuke Yajima, and the second name, 和田, is Producer Kazuhisa Wada.
>>748193736>Its because shops in Japan will actually refuse to sell higher rated gamesWrong, Cero A, B, C and D are all fine.The only type of game Japanese shops don't place on shelves is those rated as Cero Z, which is akin to Rated M in the west for truly violent games with decapitation and frontal nudity, console gaming in Japan take an issue with that so they get slapped with a Cero Z rating.
>>748195031>and it doesn't have anything to do with making games for western standardsIt has everything to do with western standards and the shift to making games FOR the west instead of just releasing them in the west. Why do you think this was hardly an issue in the 10s when P4G came out, almost every Japanese game still had panty shots and ecchi games were still very much alive. Then Sony started threatening them over the fanservice and being overly compliant by nature they rolled over. Japanese games went to shit and started showing obvious signs of pozz and self censorship right around 2020 when the COVID money started flowing in. Every other day you get an insider from the anime industry telling you modern anime is censored because it has to consider western streaming platforms and audiences now instead of just Japanese TV and Blu-ray releases. Every major game platform has rigorous policies against fanservice that they enforce in the name of having a clean brand image for gun and ball westerners.For fuck’s sake you think companies like Compile Heart and qureate and Honey Parade care this much about lower ratings? Why didn’t they care in the 00s or 10s then? What could be different now from then? Oh, just that the Japanese industry has shifted to making everything for the west foremost now, both games and anime. You can blame the Japs for not resisting more but at the end of the day IT’S THE FUCKING WEST! THE WEST KILLED SENRAN KAGURA! THE WEST PUSHED SONY AND NINTENDO AND STEAM TO BAN FANSERVICE! THE WEST IS THE ONE THAT CONSTANTLY THROWS TANTRUMS OVER MUH DIDDY BLUD MEDIA AND MUH GOONERS! IT’S THE FUCKING WEST!
>>748188258Pretty much. I'm not a fan of SMT to begin with. I tried to play EP back when the fan transation was a big deal, and it was just obnoxious.Persona 3-4 weren't "great" games, but they were at least playable enough to see all the way through without getting sick of it. Didn't bother to play 5 though, since it looked like it was getting too far up its own ass at that point.
>>748184420What a bunch of pussies. Keep the scene in and who gives a fuck if it gets a CERO C rating. Game is going to be rated M by the ESRB anyway. Just play P4 Golden instead.
>>748193736No shop in Japan wouldn't stock a C rated game.
>>748184420You dont want Takashi getting stimulated do you? What if he wants to go on and have sex? Not in my Japan.
>>748195031>Japan practically worships stupid shit like this. If you get a higher rating, it is a mark of shame, not pride like the west.You know nothing about Japanese history. Japan is the only country that meaningfully sells eroge, and they receive 18+ age-ratings by the Ethics Organization of Computer Software (PC age-ratings board established in 1992). Additionally, even prior to EOCS, stores stocked them too. Meanwhile, English countries have never stocked eroge. The market for Western Erotic Games was completely destroyed by English stores unilaterally refusing to stock that material.Even today, there is the poblem of non-Japanese platforms (e.g., Sony Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo of America/Europe, Microsoft, Apple, and Google) which have censorship policies that have restricted/censored Japanese expression. These stores target fictional expressions beyond pornography, and they supersede per region age-ratings boards to enforce their anti-otaku censorship.
>>748196061>who gives a fuck“Huge Persona fans” on Twitter who will whine about how the characters are heckin minors who should never ever be sexualized and then immediately turn around and complain about not being able to groom Naoto into a troon or fuck Kanji and Yosuke in the ass.
>>748185776>Have you ever played Persona 1 or 2?>No, have you?>No
>>748185776You're embarrassing.
>>748184420>“Our goal has never been simply to make games for the global market. Instead, we’ve always believed in creating the games that we ourselves genuinely find exciting. The fact that this approach has resonated with players around the world is what makes us happiest.”So that was a fucking lie kekAnd so, the cultura rape of asian cultures by their western masters continues.
>>748185776Ask them about Masao or Mark
>>748184420>bath scene
>>748184420It's ok guys. Hashino will save us with Metaphor 2.
>>748196354Then they are not Persona fans. Just faggots who want to vandalize everything.
persona is for whiny cucks to begin with
>>748184420The bathing scenes/animations from Persona 4 Golden (2012) that might be censored are:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qydOIkC-ynoand/or:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ZlRkWAO10>>748197146 (me)Pic related.
>>748196795This had to do with the CERO rating you fucking retard not the global market. P4G had the highest rating for a Persona title specifically for that hotspring scene
>>748184420What bath seen are they even talking about? I only played P4G I haven't watched the anime. >>748185776If you want to be this much of a petty hater, you have to play p1 and p2 yourself.
>>748197807>CEROOOOOOOOOHahaha this cope from apologist trannies still, I see.You faggots tried this with the olympics too but that's been done and dusted for years now, so it just holds no weight. It's fine to admit Japan has been completely culturally captured by their western overlords.
>>748191290Basically the same thing.Point stands.
>>748197945Its literally this cringe shit >>748197713
>>748185776I'll expose you for being a larper of that, too. What does the name Nakajima mean to you?
>>748184420There was never a reason to remake 4. The combat and gameplay was fine, the chibi art style held up, the story was timeless. It isn't that old. It felt perfect after playing p5... Despite being 10 years old, it's age does not show.3 needed a remake because you literally couldn't get a version of the game that let you control your teammates AND had 3d graphics or the answer DLC.It desperately needed upgraded combat and graphics and was 20 years old.
>>748197945https://youtu.be/DYVqQcYt_q0I used to jerk off to this plenty of times years ago
>>748198373>>748198810Oh who cares. Sucks that it's just the standard onsen trope that every anime and a lot of video games have, which used to be able to get rated T for teen, but I guess it's not a big deal. It wasn't even in the original game that I remember.I do wish we could shift back to the non-clownworld timeline without trannies though.
>>748197713Those are censored trash. The anime showed butts and some boob https://youtu.be/DYVqQcYt_q0
>>748184661>have actual interesting plots insteadlol
Reminder that Atlus went out of their way to erase the butt textures for Makoto (but not in her chibi form) for the Nikke collab and they also flattened Hulkenberg’s ass in Metaphor so poorly mods had to fix the textures. They are doing this kind of shit regardless of CERO.
>>748199226Of course, CERO is just one of the big scapegoats censorship apologist trannies absolutely ADORE using to get you to stop mentioning inconvenient truths.
>>748199226Left is the official ingame model, right is a mod and how she looks in cinematic cutscenes.
>>748199226I'm okay with ass nerfs if it meant their tits got bigger but they didn't so I'm mad
>>748184661>honestly anime fanservice is garbage Id rather they have actual interesting plots instead
>>748184661Nigger everyone already knows the plot and every twist that happens.
>>748185776Just ask him what weapon he used in P3. P3 demake only had swords.
>>748185776Cringe behavior.
>>748198380Destroyed him.
>>748185776Press them about shit that isn't easily searchable on YouTube or the wikia.
>>748187017kek
>>748184420Just how many times are they going to remake Persona 3/4? They're like Nintendo, at this point.
>>748184661This is why China will continue to dominate Japan.
>>748185776>How to expose him about P1 and P2?I played Eternal Punishment as a kid, but that's because I'm old as shit. If your friend's a zoomie then who cares, not their fault they were born after Blockbuster went bankrupt
>>748199687I don't get it. You get to be able to walk around being a faggot, but someone films you you act like you lost a fucking bet.
What bath scene?
>>748193736>the entire world is Japan, Europe and the USAEveryone with this mindset needs to be killed.
>>748185776Bro, that's a real persona fan these days. LARPers only played 5 or watched the game on youtube.
>>748184661>honestly anime fanservice is garbage in the anime fanservice gameI hate tranime as much as the average /v/ermin but you are a huge fucking faggot.
>>748202031
>>748185776? that is all the games
>>748184420
>>748184661Me too, but no tolerance for sanitized censorslop.
>>748202032They are the most important markets for non-gacha video games, yes
>>748184661You can have both at the same time and in the early 2010 and before it was like this if you can believe it.
>>748184661You fight for this shit at every step numbnuts. >>748185776You're the fraud. If your power level was high enough you wouldn't need to ask. But why do you even give a solitary fuck in the first place
>>748184420Jesus christ. First the Yosuke comment, now the bathing scene. CERO is really awful and this global era sucks.
>>748201942Ask SEGA. It's really on them for wanting Persona to become their core pillar franchise if you read their quarterly financial statements. They mention it alongside Sonic, Like A Dragon as their core franchises.
>>748184420persona is already sanitized as shit, can't even show a kiss scene properly. What is there to even censor anymore?
>>748197713God I wish I didn't watch those, so cringey though the dub doesn't help. I always hated persona spa scenes but I still hate censorship. But damn, those scenes already look fucking censored, you can't see anything.>too stimulatingKnowing Japan, I expected to see Nanako naked. I know that would overstimulate me. I only played the original persona 4.
>>748206719Women.They should censor all the women cause they are hormonal animals that needs to be medicated frequently otherwise they will spergout and start killing children like that one bitch lately.
>>748185776I don't speak for the quality of Persona 1 and 2, but>a fan of the franchise must be a fan 9f every entry in the franchiseWrong. A true fan has enough sense to recognize when a certain entry is dogshit and enough dignity to not engage and consume those dogshit entires.
I have only played the original PS2 version and will only play the original PS2 version.Fuck Golden, Fuck Marie
No shit? Most of their modern fans are zoomers that tear up if they see a tit.
Why are kids these days so weird about sex? They act scared to look at women. Women act scared of being raped by every man they see. So much repression. Self-repression. Sexuality doesn't just go away, you know? It's deep inside rotting these weirdos. They must have some sick fetishes. The worst of the list. These kids depress me.
>>748184420Persona 3 Reload is rated CERO C, What's the problem?
>>748198232>>748199362Both can be true. Yeah, western infiltration is a serious problem, but taking all the culpability off of CERO's hands because a few ladida faggots are dancing around certain issues is unproductive when they've been on this shit for as far back as the Wonderswan days and probably even further back. Pic related was a panty flashing scene that was awkwardly cut out with a cut from ellipses when the game was ported to the PS2, or how Yggdra Union and Riviera had more revealing bathing scenes than their Japanese versions when it was brought to the US because CERO can't help themselves from being huge assbaskets.
>>748203549That is the anime. Not the game. Game was in game models.
>>748207773Fact is in the last several years the overwhelming majority of censorship comes from within from internal trannylator groups of westoids that Jap companies, en masse, retardedly decided was a good idea to give final say on story, character designs, etc.They are completely and utterly culturally captured and raped by the west.
>>748207773It is blatantly not true and I have literally never seen CERO refuse to rate a game over pantyshots or other fanservice, but I have seen numerous examples of Soby, Nintendo and Steam banning or threatening to ban games over such as well as Japanese developers self-censoring over what they feel is “western sensibilities”, like when Star Ocean 5 censored a characters’ panties and specifically said it was for the west, or even as far back as Xenosaga Episode 1 locking the model viewer angles in the menu so you couldn’t view M.O.M.O.’s panties specifically for the western release; the Japanese version was uncensored.Everyone just likes to scapegoat CERO, even the Japanese themselves, because it is easy to blame a nebulous organization whose sole purpose is to rate games than it is to blame the guys who make your Nintendos and PlayStations even though they are obviously the ones at fault. CERO didn’t kill Senran Kagura and nuke the ecchi game genre; Sony did. CERO didn’t ban the Neptunia Re;Birth games from the west or refuse to allow Tokyo Clanpool to have the same content it had in the Vita release; Nintendo did.
>>748184420>Censored>Not even a Yosuke romance optionWhat even is the point?
>>748209723Yosuke is crying about a girl that hated him throughout the entire fucking thing and you want him to suddenly go >Hmm.. you know what... I'm actually a faggot. You "people" need to fucking die immediately
>>748184661>interesting plot>anime
>>748184420What bathing scene? I don't even remember desu.
how were you suppose to figure out adachi was the killer? I got spoiled by you niggers.
>>748184661we don't do pride month anymore bro back in the closet
thanks op ignore listed on steam so i don't even buy it on deep discount
>>748212690The game is old as fuck and memes were always on the site
>>748196204>Japan is the only country that meaningfully sells erogeSorry, you mean mosaic simulators? YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN
>>748212690Golden made it super obvious by making him the Jester arcana. Only the people who played vanilla on release date figured it out themselves and I'm guessing fucking up choices required a few reloads of multiple save datas.
>>748184661Kill yourself.
>>748184420This is that hot springs scene at the end of the game with Marie. The girls are fully nude in that, only covered by steam, unlike the other hot springs scene where they where towels. Ultimately a nothingburger and trannies already lost in regards to Naoto and Kanji.
>>748212690You're supposed to remember random minute details throughout your 90+ hour playthrough.
>>748213075wear towels* Fuck I need to go to bed
>>748212690I got spoiled too, I don't think there were any explicit hints but realistically the only possible candidates were him and Nanako's dad. He kinda hangs around with no role in the story.
>>748213164I felt like he was the comedic relief/butt of jokes so it slipped past me.>>748213132I still feel like a smooth brain for missing them.
>>748184420I find really cute that japanese think their games and stories are any good and think that people aren't playing/watch/read them just for the ecchi content.
don’t worry guys i am saving gaming
>>748213195>I felt like he was the comedic relief/butt of jokes so it slipped past meGolden or vanilla? Pretty sure he lets the mask slip during one of his social links.
>>748213236$250 is fucking insane for what mediocre shit it comes with. Should be $160 at the very least.
>>748213195He's literally the only character not accounted for. None of the other choices make sense. It's like, you have a list of people to choose from and 9/10 of them are main characters and then there's a random character who was barely even there. Beyond that you wouldn't really know unless you were autistically paying attention to everything everyone said and did at all times.
>>748213281What’s cucked is the Japanese version is $220 with the statue $120 without.
>>748213210Because so called perverts still bending the knee are secretly ashamed of their sexuality and no ally.
>>748207531because all the girls want 1% of the guys and money, and because of social media they can get them (or hope to) that leaves 99% of man feeling inferiour so they cope by pretending to not care about sex or even hate it. Thats also what made guys more abusable by a narcissistic Machiavellian girl more than ever and they are using sex to get what they want more than ever from such guys (since 1% dont give a fuck)
>>748184420>not for weebs/OG fans because they killed the fanservice>not for activist and tourist newcomers because they're not rewriting Naoto/Kanji's arcs to give into pridwashing>almost none of the OG dub cast returning>P4G is on every major platform alreadyWho is this remake for?
>>748213571goy cattle that buys every remake and never plays them
>>748185776You can't call yourself a Persona fan if you played majority of the franchise?
>>748213571For me
>>748213571People who want to replay P4 with a new coat of point and nicer animation work and that want their fog effects in the overworld back after P4G broke them needing you to use a mod to restore them, like me.
>>748207827That's in the game you fucking retard
>>748212645see>>748203549
>>748203549>The Bike attacks were removed>But they were worthless so its fine>The TV listings were removed>But they were worthless so its fine>The second out of two cringe "oniichan no ecchi" hotspring scenes were remove where you can't even see anything was removed due to CERO bullshitYeah I'm fine with all this actually.
>>748184661imagine being this low T
What's going to happen with the Shadow Rise boss?
>>748217609Nothing because P4 was kept the CERO B rating with that boss intact its only when they added another shitty hotsprings cutscenes did it get turned to C
>>748217609Going to wear a burka.
>>748184420Jews killed persona sonic and Sega Not funding woke garbage Pirate and mod the scenes back in
>>748184420How come trannies always pretend not to understand that it isn't necessarily about the erotic value of the scene itself, but treating the player like an adult who is mentally sound enough to handle sexual topics?
>>748217384>>The Bike attacks were removed>>The TV listings were removed[Citation Needed]
>>748208185>Nintendo didI vaguely remember that half of the quote and quote Nintendo totally censored that shit stuff was actually the company doing it themselves and trying to pretend that nintendo forced them
>>748184420This is why I don't play Persona.I'd rather SMT instead.
>>748219814>I'd rather SMT instead.SMT5's free cam is censored just like Cleopatra's signature's animation. Need PC mods to unfuck those.
>>748219732You fell for Famitsufag tendie propaganda. It was 100% Nintendo doing this. Multiple publishers directly pointed to Nintendo and almost all of the games here were censored ONLY on Switch.
>>748219964Sadly you can't use mods to uncensor a removed event.
>>748187017Literally this.
>>748219732Tokyo Mirage Sessions was supposed to be the Switch's exclusive Persona 5 and these idiots fumbled so hard with the western censorship they covered it up by outright DELETING the Japanese original and kept the overseas one as basis for the remaster. They pretend the other one doesn't even exist anymore so they can argue there is no other way, it has to be that version because there's nothing else.
>>748184420As long as fanservice is censored, I shan’t be buying.
>>748197807Persona 5 & Persona 5 Royal, the best selling Persona games, had a CERO C (15+) rating. Persona 3 Reload also had a CERO C rating. It's unlikely they were specifically aiming for a CERO B (12+) rating with Persona 4 Revival.We know they stated the game will be "modern" regarding the dialogue (note: Persona 3 Reload was censored in a similar way), and there's already been evidence of other expurgation.Incidentally, Persona 5 Royal's modern console/PC port from 2022 censored content (rising sun flag symbolism) for global audiences. The PlayStation 4 Persona 5 Royal from 2016 also censored the gay predatory characters for global audiences. Sega/Atlus are compliant to localizers and the so-called 'global audiences.'
>>748184420They may leave naoto and kanjis arcs alone and they may keep marie and add aika, but remiving the fanservice scenes and other golden content is still enough reason for me not to ever touch this remake. And I'm still not convinced they haven't fucked with Naoto in any way shape or form.
>>748184420Reminder that at the same time SEGA is censoring basic bitch onsen scenes out of their games they are distributing scantily clad mesugakis through their gachas.Modern Japanese companies use the existence of gacha as an excuse to further censor their mainline games by designating it as the exclusive zone for fanservice content, letting them section it and its supporters away from the rest of the brand so they can double down on the global audience pandering without those pesky otakus and ecchi enjoyers getting in the way of making a game centered around the Twitter faggot audience. It’s the equivalent of “just watch porn” but for Japan. No need to worry about all your favorite games getting ruined for globohomo faggots and ESG checks, just roll your entire paycheck on this gacha, see we have all your lolis, sexy outfits and ML right here.The existence of gacha is an acive impediment to fanservice in real games because it lets the companies not have to take you into account since in their minds you should just be on the gacha plantation. It lets them cleanly divide games for Japanese and overseas otaku audiences and games for the “global audience” of normalfaggots and wokescolds.
>>748222126If one skippable fan service cutscene is a make or break issue for you, just be honest and say you were never going to play this in the first place.
>>748222173>they are distributing scantily clad mesugakis through their gachasGacha gods keep winning.
>>748222173The gacha market is the eastern equivalent of Sweet Baby Inc racketeering consultancy for the west.Both are culturally-sensitive solutions for horny stuff in videogames, applied in a way the public in their respective countries will passively comply and grow used to.
>>748185776Did you play GTA 1 and 2 then?
>>748222213There was a concievable universe where I would have actually purchased this game but in the grand scheme if things it was always highly unlikely. My deal that I shouted to the heavens was if they wokeify p4 by even one line of dialogue then I wouldn't purchase it. If they made naoto trans I would not only never buy a atlus game again, but never buy a sega game again, and if sega were to sell atlus in the future I would never purchase a game from their new parent company again. However if they doubled down on everything that pisses woke cancer off like fanservice and the dialogue about naoto beeding to accept shes a woman, then I would not only purchase this remake, but I would go back and buy Metaphor and P3R as well as the p5 spin-offs.
>complaining about censorship>in a video gameI'd understand it if it were a book, like Fahrenheit 451 or something, but... a video game? Looks like some of ya'll still have some growing up to do.
>>748222213Not that anon but if there is a single rewritten line in the reboot about Naoto going "yeah I'm trans" or even "guys maybe I'm not actually a girl" I'm fucking dropping this like it came from Chernobyl.Not because of the game itself, but because by taking this stance it means the company along all of its hierarchical chain from the localizer, to the director and producer, to the publisher and the developers, all of them consented in turning this game into a validation of a decades-long narrative and turning itself into a flag firmly planted in the series and the industry as a whole.It would be the equivalent of another company buying the Wolfenstein IP and remaking The New Colossus with a gigachad Adolf being helped by Blaskowicz and the regime wins in the end.
>>748184661Ok homo
>>748222857If it doesn't matter then it shouldn't be censored in the first placeIf you are complaining that video games aren't art then fucking kill yourself nobody gives a shit.
>>748222857>Grow up and start consuming high culture media like books
>>748185776https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D_itqQBkVQHit them with one of these and see if they immediately follow up
>>748222857>censorship is fine as long as it doesn't affect me xDDgood goy, they love ones like that
>>748199687This "person" ended up like that because xe watched too much anime fanservice thoughbeit
>>748184420P4 was already mid so who fucking cares?
>>748198662Shadow chie seeeeex
>>748221024
>>748184420>playing the shitty remake after hearing about the butchered english dub
>>748224634Persona 3 and 5 are sitting right there with CERO C in your own image, proving him right.Way to look like a complete retard.
>>748188258I consider Megami Ibunroku Persona a different series from Persona.
>>748223206>This "person" ended up like that because xe watched too much anime fanservice thoughbeit
>>748184420I'll just use nude mods then
>>748184661>honestly anime fanservice is garbage Id rather they have actual interesting plots insteadspbp
>>748184420We already knew it was censored though, they literally said that.
>>748225281And P4 and the other titles are B you fucking dumbass
>>748222857>y'all
>looks to see what's getting censored >it's just the cringe fanservice slop You know this why people don't take you faggots seriously when your fight against censorship involves defending slop like this
>>748233414>Why so mad?>It's not important>I really really want to get my way though>Not you. You are dumb for trying to get your way.So tired of you people.
>>748233180Running away with the goalposts already? The fact that they have multiple games rated C including THE VERY LAST REMAKE proves they are not afraid of the C rating. This was a decision made for ESG scores and pussies on western Twitter.
>>748233414>we have to censor everything I find stupid >because this is not to my tastes nobody should be allowed to enjoy it>i'm going to change it at the root rather than simply not buying it but you people that wanted it in there better buy it anyways>now that there is a precedent for censoring pornography and slightly lewd jokes surely the censorship will not continue to something that I do not want censoredI'm so sick of your position whether ironic or not that I think people like you should unironically be lynched.
>>748233742>multiple games rated C>literally only two one of which is just a re release with most of the same content >P3R and P5R were still censored anyways>This was a decision made for ESG scores and pussies on western Twitter.If that why the Rise bikini and stripper scenes are still in which were also in the original game that had a CERO B rating?
>>748233518>>748233831>I NEED TO SEE THIS UNFUNNY FANSERVICE SLOP BECAUSE FUCK CENSORSHIP This is why nobody takes you retards seriously
>>748234269>You guys are sooo silly XD>I still want to censor your stuff and get my way btw>But you look super silly complaining XD
>>748233831>scene nobody likes gets removed >really has no barring on the plot and nobody likes it so changing it will not mean anything in the long run>DEMAKE DEMAKE DEMAKE DEMAKEI think the issue is that you're so insecure about objectively cringe content that you feel any pragmatic decision to change it is some sort of psyop.
>>748234269>FANSERVICE BAD BECAUSE THE FEMINISTS SAID SO>YOU EVIL BUT ALSO RIDICULOUS AND DESERVE NOTHINGI don't want to be taken seriously by you, I want my fanservice cartoons or else.
>>748234203You have done literally nothing to disprove the point that this was not censorship to get a lower rating. ATLUS does not censor for lower ratings, they censor for muh global standards. It only takes a few CERO C games to disprove the notion that they are trying to get a specific rating.Stop scapegoating CERO for bullshit that the west is forcing on Japan. It’s self-censorship to avoid what they feel is bad PR from westerners, or it’s directly imposed by Sony or Nintendo, but it’s virtually never fucking CERO despite how much mongoloids like you love to blame them for everything.
>>748234594>Where's my unfunny Japanese anime hotspring antics>Stop looking at me!
>>748234747>I ran out of brain power so I'm just going to insult you.>I still really really really want to get my way, though>This issue matters so little I will spent the whole day defending it>But you are silly for doing the same XD
>>748185776Lmao no one gives a shit about 1 and 2
>>748234623>i dont like it so nobody likes itHows it feel to not understand object permanence
>>748234736>I want my fanservice cartoons or else.
>>748234269I am not a child that needs to have tame sexual content in an already M-rated series hidden from my eyes and treating me like such insults my intelligence as a gamer and consumer and makes me not want to buy your product. I don’t have to like the scene in question to feel this way. Atlus is supposedly selling a game for young adults and adolescents yet treats their customers like kids.
>>748234893You are not going to get me to buy the censored demake faggot. The game will probably succeed regardless but you'll still be gay.
>>748234746>ATLUS does not censor for lower ratings, they censor for muh global standards.They literally censored P3R and P5R and it still got a CERO C rating despite featuring less fanservice than P4 due to drug references and violence
>>748234842>pointed out how retarded your stance is because the scene that's being removed is shit>no you're wrong because...you just are ok
>>748234887Nobody likes those scenes though
>>748222315Huh? But those are the best GTAs?!
>>748235286>This whole thing doesn't matter.>I will NEVER stop replying though.
>>748235286>I declare it shit therefore its shit>you declaring you like it and don't want it removed is pointless because I like cemsorship and mentally can't understand the perspectives of others
>>748235073>M-rated seriesThe Persona series is literally for teens Cero B is 12+ and CERO C is 15+ it's only rated M in the West due to marketing and the localization added more swears that weren't there
>>748235353I like those scenes. What now. You gonna call me a liar?
>>748235440Oh everyone understands, we just think you’re a fucking retard.
>>748235428Irony>>748235440People have shat on those scenes for years because its unfunny garbage you're dying on a hill for cringe that's worst than being pro censorship
>>748235629Don't care, didn't ask, you double nigger
>>748184420Poopsona has been on a downward spiral for several entries, why would people still play that fucking corpse of a game
>>748185776Persona was THE larp series before larps invaded everything. Just assume every Persona player you encounter online is a larper unless he opens with P2 or P1
>>748184420anyone who played golden knew this was exactly what happened. you can watch the cutscene on youtube and get the same experience as playing it because that cutscene was completely out of place even in golden. no real loss.
>>748197713https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3687675993Uncensored on Steam, dumb Nintendo fanboy.
>>748235428arguing with a goy is clearly a wasted effort, especially since they're not here to convince anyone or be convinced
>>748184420>>748184420They're going to destroy the p1 and 2 games next, nusonafy them
>>748236297The Steam version is still censored, as in it’s the initial all ages release with all the sex scenes removed and only some tame PG things like bath scenes left. Nintendo are just so gay now that they went and censored the already all ages version even further by removing things like smoking and fucking kissing.
>>748235526>I like those scenes. What now
>>748237749This is who Fatlus is censoring the game for. Not CERO.
>>748185776Ask him about his favourite boss fight from an SMT game.>"But Persona was once labelled as part of the SMT series?"Then he is a real fan.>>748187017lost
>>748236892Kanon has zero porn. The steam release isn't censored.
>>748238785vndb.org/v33
>>748237749>has a pedophile as his profile picture
>>748239012performative latinx and other braindead X creatures do seem to hide more than usual
>>748199687Lmao that aggro
Removing fanserviceis Fan Disservice.
>>748223206most anti-fanservice are either troons or minors on their way to be troons, any other smaller group of people sharing the same idea have all been mentally raped to a degree so they pretty much trooned out spiritually, they can't be saved
>>748237749>spic opinion
>>748184420>Yukiko goes from yamato nadeshiko to aylmaoNot gatekeeping persona was a mistake.
>>748234746I don't care I won't buy anything censored. If I want to see boobs they shouldn't be covered up. I'm an adult I can choose to buy it or not
>>748237749I fucking hate pochos with all my heart.
>>748241135I like the new look for her. I really do think the new eyes are much cuter than before. Some people nitpick a lot about the new portraits, but this one in particular isn't offensive at all.
>>748241515The new artist didn't even understand that Yellow is supposed to be a highlight , not a drop shadow you fucking retard with the most disgusting taste to date.
>>748241632Take it from an art expert who never picked up a pen
>>748241135kek>>748241515nobody cares nigger
>>748222947>>748223029Reminder that this image still holds true today.
>>748184661gay retard
>>748184420All is forgiven if they release a new cunny crawler. But since they won't, they are dead to me.Metaphor was rediculous bad even for a b-tier game. And now they spam the shitty remakes, but denuvo on all of them and get nothing done. Fuck them.
>>748241649Slut
are we surprised?
>>748184420japanese studios are getting rid of the only reason to buy their games. meanwhile, we have plenty free booba gachas. goodbye, cuck japan. i never liked you anyway
>>748242759>new cunny crawlerYou mean Etrian Odyssey? I’m pretty sure Himukai isn’t allowed anywhere near modern Japanifornian studios unless it’s for a gacha aka the designated problematic chudtaku quarantine zone.
>>748235519Rated M for Mara
>>748247795Well then we have a problem. Fuck new atlus. What a cursed fucking timeliness.
>>748194306>because Japanese publishers make their games primarily for the west now with Japan as an afterthoughtNah. I mean, maybe, but that's not really relevant. Publishers won't game made for the international audience. One size fits all. So if Iran doesn't like something, it gets cut from the game. The publishers have to make a choice between toning down one element of the game, or having it banned it Iran. They used to tell Iran to fuck off or make a different version. But today, publishers want EVERYONE to buy it and they don't want to make seperate versions for different regions. The whole CERO rating this is a red herring. P4's censorship has nothing to do with a CERO rating. Even the article clearly says that the CERO rating changed because they changed the game. Not that they changed the game for the CERO rating.
>>748185776>How to expose him about P1 and P2?he's kinda based for not playing p1 and p2
>>748249772“One size fits all” in practice just means the largest market dictates the content. Since the largest market for Japanese games now is the west and not Japan, they make games for America first and foremost, taking American culture and taboos in mind instead of just telling them take it or leave it. And this shift happened in large part because Japanese consumers largely gave up console gaming for mobile/gacha. You don’t see American game devs like Rockstar or Larian removing homosexuality or blacks from their games for China or the middle east; that’s because they don’t need to take those markets into consideration because they’re just a drop in the bucket compared to American consumers and journalists who would give them bad PR if they cut the gays and niggers out.
>>748184661SPBP
>>748198662They need to remake it to remove those heckin problematic scenes. Then they'll delist the original after to protect future gen alpha's little eyes.
>>748198662>3 needed a remake because you literally couldn't get a version of the game that let you control your teammates AND had 3d graphics or the answer DLC.Well they better remake it again because you still can't play femc so there is still no definitive version
>>748187017lmaopretty much this
>>748222173>He doesn't know that gacha is taking over gaming now because faggots from his own country have nip companies by the balls.
>>748233414Faggots need the rope.
CERO B you say?
>>748184661Well you're not going to get that either
I always liked P3 more than P4, don't really like P4's cast in comparison. To the point I bought golden a decade or so ago and still never bothered finishing it. I listened to a couple of the P4R OST tracks and find them to be huge downgrades to the originals. P3R's I generally liked, only preferring a couple of the originals. That combined with the ugly portraits of P4R turns me off completely. And afaik (I don't follow this shit) there's no real gameplay reason for me to care about P4R over the original, unlike P3R. So idk, I'm not interested in this demake (forma dos) at all.
Why is there so little chatter about this remake on /v/? I expected there to be way more. Maybe it's because the demographic changed too much from what it used to be
>>748255907Everyone already played Golden on Steam. This is probably the most pointless remake of all time. Only autistic people can replay the same game twice in such a short span of time.
>>748256005>only autistic people can play a remake of a game they played a port of half a decade ago
>>748255907I think on release the threads will pop up more, on the other social medias people are quite hyped
>>748256072This is not a short game with no story or Terraria. This is 80 hours of the same story you already experienced. I'd need to wait at least 10 years before even thinking about wasting my time like that instead of experiencing something new.
>>748255907Only normalfags and newgen tourists care. It's a remake of a game that already got a remake, and it's not dated in any noteworthy way to justify a remake.
>>748255907atlus is western AAA tier woke nowadays, nobody in their right mind is wasting their time with their shit anymore besides troons obsessed with changing japan
>>748255907>billions of new releases and a lifetime backlog to work through and this nigga expects me to waste 100 hours of my life on something I've already played
I never played Persona 3-5 is it pretty much like>Persona 3 = Z GundamDark, moody, has some retarded hijinks. it's pretty kino though but aimless most of the time.>Persona 4 = ZZ GundamMore Focused, people like it less because it starts out lighter. Actually has more fucked up stuff than Persona 3. Kino but it's a bit of a slow burn.>Persona 5 = 00 Gundam + MovieKino, but it doesn't really stick the landing. Gets melodramatic as FUCK sometimes. Sometimes nonsensical as well especially in the later half.Ironically, it's a flip where 00 Gundam movie kinda sucks but Persona 5 Royal content is actually really good.
>>748255907/v/ doesn’t play games
>>748256201P4 is nowhere near that long, it's like 50 hours on a first playthrough and you can easily get it down to 20 or 30
>>748255907ngl it's relatively safe.
>>748256526JRPGs are not meant to be replayed.
>>748184420Oh how awful, some cute girls showing some skin. Maybe if they were ripped into pieces with their guts and gore spilling out then americans would clap.Yeah not buying this crap.
>>748256425mental illness, mad metaphor didn't flop, mad VV didn't flop, mad p3r didn't flop, mad p4r won't flop, mad p6 also won't flop mad fortune's weave didn't flop also
>>748256695>he says that in a series with ng+ bosses almost ever since inception Bruh
>>748256731>cero>americansliterally rent free with you retards
