Why did everyone stop caring about Endfield so quickly?
>>748211084Gachaslop, but open world is an old trend.
>>748211084>manages to be worse than WuWart AND GenshitWew.
I just want to leave Wuling already.
>>748211084The PayPal disaster really tanked it.
>>748211084Pros:>Good graphics>Genuinely decent combat system where you are basically building a single character with rotations using 4x different party members>Factory system has potential for fun Cons>Open world "strand" gameplay is really limited and not very interesting>Factory gameplay is completely skipped because of just copy pasting the most efficient blueprints, there's no choices to make, just a chore to make it run and then its a timegate to get your materials>Multiple game systems are like this, everything that isn't the typical gacha combat is just limited, uninspired and boring, it feels like there is one solution to every mission>Combat devolved into ridiciulous VFX marvel rivals overload slop very fast>Story is typical "You are an amnesiac chosen one" slop>Writing is just WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS chinese word salad where characters talk for 5 minutes straight and say nothingGachas are just a bad genre in general because they arent designed to be good games, but they're designed to hook you into the slot machine. And I think people just don't care to get addicted to anything that isnt their first mihoyo title
sponsor dollars dried uphard to care when you're not paid to shillwhen your favourite shill isn't playing it, you won't either
>>748211084wild how quickly arknights was forgotten, even the porn dried up
>>748211084>one of the worst launches in gacha history>factory gameplay is complete ass>story is terrible>gameplay is mediocre>girls aren't even that hot to motivate you to stayI regret playing this kusoge.
>>748211084It didn't have the things that made OG Arknights memorable. It seemed too busy stacking mysteries nobody fucking cares about instead of worldbuilding and connections.
>>748211084It's behind on various aspects compared to WuWa and ZZZ.WuWa has the best story and world design.ZZZ has the character design and combat.Endfield has worse story, worse world design, worse character design, worse combat than its primary competitors. It just has a niche base building minigame.
>>748211084It's probably the least entertaining 3D gacha game I've tried. Story blows, characters blow, factory stopped being interesting after a while.
it literally has nothing going for it other than high quality character models(wasted on mostly mediocre designs)they failed the most important aspect of a gacha, having attractive characters
>>748211084Annoying daily tasks and greedy gacha rates.
I've been lagging so far behind despite doing all my dailies. I still haven't touched any of the gases yet for my factory.
>>748211084If you have to ask why a gacha not Genshin falls off is because everyone has fatigue of low sub 1% rates, 50/50 coinflips, absurd high pity counts, weapon banners, and dripfed currency. Genshin did it first and has sunken cost fallacy players. No one will fall for it a second time.
>>748211084If you're looking to play an open world gacha, there's pretty much no reason to play anything other than Genshin or WuWa.
>>748211761>Genshin becomes a hit>Clones copy Genshin>Clones think they can be as greedy as Genshin and live somehowSad
>>748211084Because the first to stop caring were the devs.
Well they said themselves that most of the game's decision-making and depth comes from forming parties.In a game with a 4 character limit.A game that regularly goes on 50-day streaks with no new characters. A game that has only added one new 4/5* character since launch and of course it's a retarded mascot character nobody wants.
>>748212458>decision-making in forming partiesI quit at launch because I pulled Levi and my only option was to put her in a team with the gay wolf boy.There was no decision making.
>>748212532There's two boys in her party now...
>>748211084The story is awful.
>>748211084
>>748211084The quirky XD pink hair girl in the factory was trying my patienceThen the wolf girl showed up and I had enough
>>748212583I'm glad I quit.
>>748212703>quirky XD pink hair girlI'm definitely gonna roll for Yvonne on her rerun banner. Fuck Si. I'm gonna collect all the big titted Sarkaz women. (and Sarkaz-adjacent)
gotta be real, the girl's designs are kind of a mess
quit slightly before the newest girl dropped, just totally lost interest and couldn't bring myself to log in
>>748211084Because devs aren't deving like nigger 80% of the game's content is in the same fucking not!china area.
>>748211084There's literally nothing to do. Quit in 1.1 and returned for Naomi Ozora, caught up with story, exploration and factory in a week and a half and now all I can do is wait for more content.Can't imagine playing this daily for months when you just do dailies and fuck off.
>>748211084It's performance and character models are top-tier, everything else is just plain horrible. I regretted waiting so long for this trash heap of a game.
>>748211084Not enough fanservice.
>>748211547I will never understand why you people act like these games have any real differences in combat. It's the same slop - Genshin, WuWa, ZZZ, Endfield, it's all the fucking same. Come up with something different for once.My buddy tells me Punishing Gray Raven has an actually decent combat but I'm definitely not trying another gacha any time soon.
>>748213230That's like saying CS and Call of Duty has the same combat. Yeah, sure they have similarities, you click your mouse and the gun fires but there's a lot of nuances beyond that.
>>748211084Too derivative
>>748211084I really liked the trailers and the world presentation, art style and direction and world butonce I saw it was gacha shit all my interest disappeared.They could have release this as a normal game but noooooooo "we need both games to be gacha because we are greedy fucking chinks!!!!"
The gacha system was terrible in actual practice and the factory system just sucks fucking ass and it's nothing more than an actual chore to please the 5 factorio fans that will try the game.
>>748211506>girls aren't even that hot to motivate you to stayThis is made even funnier with how hard they try to sexualize them, especially the pink haired one, almost felt ZZZ levels of lewd animations
>>748211084wide as an ocean deep as a puddle
>>748212532>>748212583You can put whoever you want in your team because Laevatain is entirely self-sufficient.>b-but muh min-maxSounds like you're the problem.I've been running Ember (until I quit anyway), is she good? No. Did I have problems with any content? Of course not.
the factory gameplay novelty ran out really fastcan't be complex autism because gacha so it is the most braindead thing possible where everyone just download blueprints from CC niggers
pedofield threads normally:>eos soon>no content>I sleep>uninstalledAn operator resembling a child is released>UOOOOHHHH I BOUGHT TWENTY>whoa gameplay so good>I love janitor events!
>>748211547>WuWa has the best story and world design.>ZZZ has the character design and combat.I'd swap story and combat personallybut I imagine story actually goes to some more niche 2D gacha I don't actually play
>story is for arknights fags, they don't play genshinslop>factory is for braindeads, only people who care about factory are autists and being too simple doesn't attract them>gacha system is a convoluted mess people still don't understandhonestly where did it go right?
>>748213486>Laevatain is entirely self-sufficient.>400 SP to get full stacks on her battle skill
>>748211084not enough endmin feet
>>748211084No one playing Arknights is going to suddenly switch to another game under the same name and be forced to spend their time and money split between the both of them.
>>748211084>Pulled in half a billion dollars in six months>Already holding conferences for a five year story and content plan They've got the players they want, anon. I'm one of them. Greed is there, like everywhere, but it's not their reason to exist. It's the only gacha where I've gotten everything I need to enjoy the game with that tenner a month BP. That and using this sperg defender as a stun bonking DPS instead is fucking hilarious fun.
>>748213486>Laevatain is entirely self-sufficient.She literally can't generate heat stacks to use her first ability, or apply combusion/corrosion for her combo.>ultVery self sufficient if you're whacking away for a minute doing no damage just to use your kit
>>748213610don't forget combat is the same exact setup of apply elemental AIDS and use skill to remove elemental AIDS doing big damage to enemy regardless of team
>>748212532>>748212748lol get filtered
>>748211158>>748211238>>748211506Reading this thread got me think like damn, the game really dodged a bullet with these type of people.
>>748213579ZZZ story is ok but the presentation is poor. In the same way Arknights OG story is actually quite decent but the presentation is abysmal. Wuwa's story presentation is good, since it does a lot of cinematically framed scenes instead of VN-style that ZZZ and OG Arknights does.
>>748213610Every single time a game seeks the wider audience to try and copy the success of others, shit happens without fail.
>>748213436Factorio autist here. For me the game was instantly hype because of the factory stuff, but it's so fucking shallow there's no appeal to it. You need to account for efficient use of space but that's about it. Ratios, byproducts and logistical tools are all kindergarten levels.
>>748213672It's to the point where I wish there was a gear set that boosts your basic attacks by 10000% at the cost of skill damage. Combat rotations are so fucking boring I want to run around and smack people with my sword
>>748211084I love my nerd owls from ak but no way they are gonna make it in hereSo i dont really care
>>748211084A GAME FOR NO ONE
It’s easily the best ongoing JRPG. When I compare it to what I just went through with Fire Emblem and Trails, easily. And they’re not even terrible games.
The entire game lacks direction, the gameplay is absolute ass, nothing fun at all to do except for dailies, all character designs are bland and censored and the gacha is abysmal.It really feels like the devs had no idea what kind of game they actually wanted to do, and just ended up with a bad Genshin clone with no sense of direction or own feet to stand on.The factory is too simple for people that actually enjoy factory stuff, and for people that don't like dealing with the factory it's a pain in the ass having to redo your entire base every factory update, the original Arknights worldbuilding, characters and lore is REALLY AWESOME and one of the reasons the game got so big and it's a slap in the face they finally did an Arknights 3D game and had it placed in another planet far in the future... instead of allowing us to explore the TERA world in full 3D and visit all the cool locations. The game has some top quality character models, but that's it. And the only legacy this game has is the shitty gugugaga AI slop meme
>>748213990Okay but the JRPG is unfinished so no one's playing it until it is
>>748213610filtering genshinfags and wuwatards. because holy shit, every time there's some slap fight between these two shit fans on twitter, they always try to drag endfield into their mess.
>>748214041If you played the game you’d know about what’s happening with Tera and where the devs are going.
>>748214041>censored
They keep trying to grab the wrong audience. They did a collab with fucking Fortnite dude.With fucking FORTNITE.
I honestly do not understand what they were thinking with the gacha>take a billion pulls to max dupe a character>the max dupe character is almost the same as a regular 0 dupe in powerwhat do the whales even spend on?
>>748214137you expect people who only care about jacking it to waifus actually care about the story?
>>748214139They censored Leek, Mi Fu and Arcane. And their designs were even quite tame from the start
>>748214150Skins
Barely anyone’s opinions on this game matters because they either dropped it 2 hours in or rushed to the end skipping everything and complain about no DPs check endgame modes. Endfield is on par with Xenoblade 1 and FFXIV, it’s that level of game, but you have to give it hours and hour to get there, just like XIV.
Hypergryph writing has always been terrible, and the gameplay in this game is just rehashed Hoyokuro open world slop but worse
>>748214150lmao no one told you to do that
Enfield
endfield is a fun game if you play it on a yearly basis.if you're playing patch by patch I think it'll be pretty boring.
>>748214204there are no skins retarded bot
>>748214287>no skinsWhy are the devs like this
>>748214208Wrong. I played since release and dropped shortly after Mi Fu released. XIV at least has a good endgame mode through Savage and Extreme raiding.Endfield has CC, which is the most unsatisfying endgame mode I've ever attempted. I want to fight strong monsters; I don't want to fight mid monsters with a crippled character.
Enfield.
>>748214338So you only played for two weeks?
>>748214208>on par with FFXIVoh so it's just shit then
>>748214192>censored
>>748213351What nuances, iframes on dodge? Elements combining in different ways? It's all the same anon, you've been playing this stuff too much.>>748213610>story is for arknights fags, they don't play genshinslopNo it's not. They actually butchered Arknights to faciliate Endfield, completely changed the story and lore to have that fucking portal to Talos. The most dangerous enemies (who destroyed the whole civilization in what-if scenarios) were handwaved with one short event to make way for a villain that oneshots your adjutant who, before that happened, was able to ruin entire countries through her schemes, only because that villain makes copying Arknights characters into Endfield setting possible. Yeah, gotta love it!
>>748214508>t. never played the games
>>748214397The game came out in January and Mi Fu released in June you retard. I played for almost half a year.
>>748214508Arknights story really sucked once they made PRTS the one behind everything and making EVERYTHING else mean jackshit>oh the seaborn is all of a sudden nothingburger when before they could easily have conquered the entire planet and universe eventually.
>>748214567WuWa is the only one I haven't played, now go ahead and explain how it's very different from the rest. I have to leave now but I'll read your response later.
>>748214790I've played wuwa for 2 years and it's the sameWuwa, endfield, and genshin all follow the same repetitive rotationslop formula. You follow the same damage flowchart and never deviate no matter the enemy you're facing. ZZZ is only slightly different when you're playing a character that needs to parry. He can cope all he wants about teambuilding but the developer-enforced meta teams will always be strictly superior to whatever dumb shit the player can come up with. Now shut up and roll for your shilled archetype of the month.
>>748214338See? You didn’t get to 1.4. You’ve dropped FFXIV at the 2.2 equivalent.
>>748211547Soox.
>>748215261It's all the same chinkslop as long as the game is stuck in wuling.
>>748215261lmao 1.4 was nothing special just felt like more endfield slop only good thing about it was the lolibaba.
>>748211084Arknights built up an audience of normalfags and shipper troons so Endfield trying it's hand in the fanservice pandering genre just fell flat because there's no audience overlap.
>>748211084This was supposed to be the genshin killer btw lmao
>play Star Rail>press a button and watch the character spam neon-colored beams across the screen to nuke all enemies>play WuWa>press a button and watch the character spam neon-colored beams across the screen to nuke all enemies>play Endfield>hold down a button and watch the character spam neon-colored beams across the screen to nuke all enemiesWho the fuck enjoys this ""gameplay""?
>>748216035third worlders who only own a phone to game on
>>748216035the same could be said of all videogames
ITT: WuWajeets larping as dude/v/ros because they're pretty salty their MoneyMaking game got tagged for what it is as it runs another spending scampaign.
>>748217680I don't do that in factory sim games.
>>748211084Bad gacha like tribe nine are remembered and memed on.Mediocre ones like this are just forgotten.
>>748216035browns on phones
>>748211084>Endfield the gacha promoting black culture>Just like zzz the gacha about black culture That shit was dead on arrival just like zzz and NTE and all other new chinese gacha because they end up flopping in china because china doesn't like blacks nor their cultureGo woke go broke
Endfield in CBT resembles more of Xenogears from its original story to the combat to the sci-fi aesthetic. They listened to the wrong people (genshitters) so it ended up like your average dumbed down fantasy 3D open-world gacha game. It's unfortunate but they deserve everything's going wrong with them.
>>748218365>blacksyou mean the one brown girl or the literal panda?
>>748216035>play DMC>click attack and watch a character do epic combosThat's what you sound like. You haven't played any of those games if you think that's how they play. In Endfield you need to activate team synergies by triggering specific conditions. Like putting 3 stacks of fire on a mob can launch a skill attack from some specific character in your team. And since those conditions are different for every character, you have to constantly change the way you fight as you change your teams around. And you have to adjust for what the enemy is doing too because the can interfere with your rotation by applying buffs and debuffs and just moving around and getting away from your AoE attacks
That new song and the new zone is pretty good https://youtu.be/hZCUsjI1SMQ
This game doesn't have a single redeeming quality other than "it's technologically impressive
>>748211084Wuwa is just a better 3D gacha.
>>748218619>wuwaIf I wanted to play Genshin I'd just play Genshin
>>748218619Wuwa sucks dick and I'm glad entire internet is finally noticing it. It's just Genshin made for brown ML retards.
>>748211084Should have used ff12 combat
>>748218601Nah it's good for a while. First region was just garbage and factory shit filters a lot of people. It's improving and getting better and better reviews in Asia where it actually matters.
>>748211547Shin please
>>748218547The last decent character story (decent, not good) was Laevatain's, at the game's release. I will not reinstall the game until 2.0 at the very least, whenever that will be.Vaguepost king had good music in his character story disguised as part of the main story.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eav6WFvxI5oAt that point I was still a bit hopeful for the game, but I didn't really enjoy rebuilding glorious China and reclaiming its rightful clay that came later so I'm having a longer break.
>>748211084You know this game flopped hard when the devs had to come out and say they are not flopping and that the mobile revenue charts are "inaccurate" Actual games that are making money and are successful never try to make up excuses for their lack of performance or just completely ignore it
It's simply the best 3D gacha title. I've played them all for hundreds of hours, it's an objective take.
>>748218851You really don't need much to satisfy gamers, especially in Asia.Fucking koikatsu-lite improved reception of Girls' Frontline 2, literal non-gameplay.End field is the same, too simple to be fun.
>>748214150Are you stupid? A whale is gonna do it regardless because the act of spending money is what drives them.
>>748218937It's certainly not the hit they hoped for but it still earns more than has spent on it, a net gain. Hard to tell if it keeps up but for now things are fine.
>>748218886Yea we need to leave China already it’s just got better last patch but the patches before where fucking meh to horrible
>>748214208Is the endgame not dpsslop?
>one banner per patch>rolling for more character is useless because you realistically can clear everything if you rolled leek womanthey unironically have to powercreept this shit/make skins or they will die
>>748218937>putting inaccurate in quotesyep, you're brown
>>748211084Arknights players don’t want to play Endfield, they want to stay in their TD game and avoid tourists, larpers, and metaslaves as much as possible.MiHoYo franchise players only care about them releasing games with references to HI3rd and not touching anything external.Gacha players in general don’t want an open world, they want to stay in their niche game that offers them waifus, lolis, and that’s it.Genshin Impact players aren’t going to leave Genshin Impact just because another game does the same thing but better, because they don’t even play gachas to begin with, they’re normies who picked up Genshin during the pandemic and never left.
>>748211084>launch>game is fucking boring>game mayb gud 600 hours in>slog through >unlock factory>gigagillion tutorials>finally finished tutorial>have enuff currency to headhunt beginner banner>1st 6*>holyshit cute flat girl>hear voice>its a man>insta alt f4 + uninstall>never look backi wasted 9 hours to try this piece of shit gayme
>>748219130There were only 4 weeks of endgame so far and it was conditional dpsslop with additional hazards. They removed the dash+iframes for example, which is pretty funny all things considered.
>>748219415>does the same thing but betterThread unrelated btw
>>748211084Sorry, that was my fault. I only cared about Fluorite porn.
>>748219415Genshin and Arknights player here. I just like the free factory Genshin game.>but what about ArknightsAfter getting filtered by by IS 4, I just think I'm not getting anywhere without the required 6*. And I don't have all the required ones. I feel AK right now is less fun than it was at the beginning.>but KyostinvKyo is an autist. I just wanna drop-and-forget.>go play GenshinI am.
>>748219514Well, it’s not “exactly the same” but you can tell which audience they were aiming for. Even miHoYo sent staff from their company to do market analysis during the public events that were held in the game’s beta.
>>748219685All IS can be cleared with almost anything (not sure about IS2, haven't play it much)... on base difficulty. If you go ascension 10+, then yeah, you either have to stick with "good" operators or have perfect strategies prepared for every map. It sucks because the tourist squad - picking random 6* game gave you and trying to make them work together - was the most fun I've had in the mode but it's just not feasible for A15 if you are a casual.
the only gacha im playing are genshin impact and Nikke. but im getting bored.I just downloaded Endfield and wuthering waves. what am i in for
OP keeps making this same thread over and overhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/why%20endfield/type/op/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/what%20endfield/type/op/
>>748220342You're likely to get bored too but Endfield is a pretty game, especially if you manage to get to the second region (which, I believe, is now available for new players immediately). We're talking actual AAA levels, except with anime artstyle.
>>748211084The story is not very compelling. I like the factory and I like the combat somewhat. But the character designs and stories are pretty terrible not to mention the main story.Also it's been constant china wank since release and there's only so many egg rolls I can eat.
>>748218365Sep, I’d been playing ZZZ since 1.0 and I quit the game for good last month.It suddenly turned into a total bloodsucker and I’m not about to sell a kidney for the version waifu + her skin.
Same images and everything.What is this mental illness?
>>748211761yeah the roll systems become more and more elaborate and baroque with these games, endfield is a glaring example with all its modifiers and thresholdsit even takes away the fun of gambling because the chances of getting lucky are incredibly low, if you get "lucky" you'll just get one of the 5 permanent banner ssr anyway, so you're basically buying the banner character spending a fixed amount of currency with a chance of getting a modest discount
>>748220432Forgive the Wuwa jeet. They're not having fun with Wuwa anymore because Kuro keeps telling them to spend more as their "event".
>>748211084i enjoyed 1.0 the problem is and its the same with every gacha game they just stay the same as their 1.0 counterpart, however i will give NTE some credit compared to endgfield and wuwa, NTE is way different already and its only 1.3 with 1.4 incoming to be even more different to its 1.0 version thats my outlook on it there is plenty of other reasons too
>>748219415>MiHoYo franchise players only care about them releasing games with references to HI3rd and not touching anything external.nigga what
>>748219919>Even miHoYo sent staff from their company to do market analysis during the public events that were held in the game’s beta.you guys never been to a single convention and it shows, lmao
>>748213878>Combat rotations are so fucking boring I want to run around and smack people with my swordsomeone oughta make a gacha with combat focused on basic attacks instead of skill and ult spam...
Played from launch until Tangtang. The combat is the weakest part of the game. it’s like a mini-game that is unrelated to everything else. And the characters are not cool. They look like they got dressed in a dumpster. Also the weapon/armor system sucks. You can’t tell what’s good by looking at it. You need to do RNG witchcraft using this and that minor currency. Games always fail in global when they have too many currencies. Only Chinese and Japanese people like that autism
>>748211084Possibly the worst story in any gacha with 0 memorable characters, 0 hit designs and constant censorship on top of really repetitive gameplay probably killed this slop "game".
>>748221030Playstation got to tap that?!
>>748211547>ZZZ has the character design Hahaha, nice joke!
>>748222103Why are you comparing honkai star rail and zzz models
>>748211113>GachaslopFPBP
>>748211084Too much of a daily time investment and absolutely nothing about the game made me want to continue investing more time into it. Stuck it out for 2 months and then dropped it.
>>748211547>WuWa has the best story and world designThat's not even true within their own company, let alone in the entire market
>>748218545>In Endfield you need to activateYou don't NEED to do anything retard
>>748222103>same face wuslopEven Claret is miles better than your garbage made in india character AI slop lmao.
>>748211547ZZZ character designs look like deviantart tier trash
>>748222103>tingyun copy from HSR over 3 YEARS AGO>vs tsundere vampire princessWhy are brazilians and indians so obsessed with garbage characters in wuwa?
Gugu gaga
Why did every gacha company try to take a slice of the action game pie? Its crazy oversaturated but they can't stop.
>>748211084No one ever cared to begin with.It's a game without a target audience that has shunned the playerbase of their previous games.
>>748219470whomst is this character?
>>748220342>wuwaPain and suffering if you care about endgame.Story is cool, but has no gameplay. Just set your attack to turbo and close your eyes. World is pretty and fun to run through a single time.Zero content otherwise.
>>748211084I don't want to boot up an open world game everyday.
>>748226039If it's during launch, it can only be Lifeng.
>>748223030>>748223274You guys can't be seriousy lmfao
>>748223030>same facebut enough about ZZZ
>>748227178>Even Claret is miles better than your garbage made in india character AI slop lmao.ZZZ players pay real money for the same recycled AI-generated design lmfao. Anyone still playing that kusoge after Season 1 deserves to eat shit.
>>748227376hsin is the last character I want and then I'm dropping the gameholy shit what happened
>>748227376So ugly.
>>748227376
>>748227629Kek!>>748227235The cope from wujeets is insane!
wait wasn't this an Endfield thread?
>>748211084Once the honeymoon wore off there was no reason to play it over Genshin or ZZZ.
>>748227376ZZZ character designs generally have gone down the shitter but that doesn't magically make wuwa's designs good. Either way ZZZ's animations are leagues above wuwa, it's not even a competition t b h.
>>748227376They used to have good, iconic even, designs, but then Atwo and Waterkuma left Tzbard took over.
>>748228226>ZZZ's animations are leagues above wuwaSo true king!>Every nu-ZZZ agent gameplay is hold E to win.Fucking PEAK
>>748227629These don't even line up you fucking retard
I finally quit endfield after realising I didn't care about the current character or next character, and the story wasnt going any where whilst they padded it with side shit
>>748211084Valley VI story is diarrhoea dogshit, nothing more, and you get smacked over the head repeatedly by unskippable tutorial slop while suffering through itWuling story is slightly better but still boring (plus I have not-China fatigue at this point). Like this patch is the fourth time we've had to go light up three pillars or something like that in a row.World quests/side content are mostly shitCombat is very middle of the road, there's nothing special about it but I guess it's not awful either?AIC gameplay gets stale after tearing your production line down for the 10th time in order to produce the new materials/use gas/etc.Story cutscenes are awkward and stilted (many gacha suffer from this thoughbeit)On the other hand it looks nice, I like the environment art and character designs mostly, but I don't think that's enough to keep me playing for much longer.
>>748228971Then stop playing chinese games retard
>literally nobody>but wuwa and zzzthis is why nobody likes you
>>748213823Shame it won't survive to see 2.0 at worst and 3.0 at best. Allergic to money and good game design. Carried heavily by the art and retards with worse sunkcost than any Hoyodrone.
>>748213823It really dodged a bullet with all types of people.
Am I the only one okay with how easy it is to catch up with content in this game? It lets me play other stuff without worrying as much as long as I set up the factory properly so it doesn't explode when I log off
>>748211084arknights plastered all of gamesscom with their character banners and they all looked gray. even OP's pic is just gray.
>>748229976Worst case scenario, EF gets funded by AK. We will never know because they are private and gacha revenue PVP is unreliable at best
>>748230053Yeah its a great side game that filters browns and gachabrains
>>748220342do other gatcha have good memes like NIKKE?
>>748230614Trickal!
>>748211084turns out I like finish a game and move the fuck on with a different one gacha want to keep you on the hamster wheel so I just go back to my offline games.
>>748230614Doro is newfag territory, you get meems like la creatura from fgo, sex from azur lane, poi from kancolle and so and so
>>748230830>Doro islove life
>>748230961
>>748229976>Shame it won't survive to see 2.0 at worst and 3.0 at bestIt will survive as long as arkbabs remain in the cuckchair :^)
>>748211547As a wuwa player I think calling wuwa a good story is quite a stretch. It does have some good episodes sure, but overarching plot can be summer up in few sentences. The local themes and sense of adventure within different lands is good. For example from this year I really liked 3.4 Denias episode but last 3.7 Qingxiao episode feels like a god damned filler no matter how I try to wrap my head around it.
>>748231745piggybacking of your postI loved Rinascita, all of it. Phrolova's patch was my favorite thing in all of my time with the game.And then Lahai Roi came with all of its shit and I just didn't want to play anymore. I'm probably going to drop the game for good after fox sexo.
>>748211084Same shit as usual for chinese games: they do an ok first act and then immediately grind all momentum to a crawl for a year by going to the notChina province where the government absolutely can't be wrong and it's only the others who don't understand how right the government is. Genshin and Star Rail kinda introduced the global audience to it so they didn't suffer too much from it and Wuthering Waves "avoided" it by having the notChina be the first area so they could be freed from it as fast as possible but Endfield does that shit exactly like any other chinese gachas do so people just mentally peaced out. It's made even worse by the setting straight up telling you that, on Talos in the civilization band, they purposefully avoided Terra countries-affiliated factions and then you have the notChina one literally use the Terra's notChina flag and proudly say they are a faction of Terra's notChina.On top of that the gameplay is meh at best, it happens far enough from the original Arknights and introduce stupid shit to it so Arknights lorefags don't really give much of a fuck about it after one or two days post new story and the factory part, the part for autists, will ALWAYS rub them the wrong way because the most optimised and obvious setup is gated behind the next update for the game so it's a game that successfully satisfies almost no one.
game is just boring shitI'd rather play something else
>>748232290I will now play your something else
Gacha tribalism really is a mental illness.
>>748211084they didn't let me nap with my fluorite wife
>>748211690that image is funny because they would never put guns in their sci-fi game
>>748233073Which kind of gun though, because EF has handcannons and gun towers
>>748232921lizard sex
>>748233416i thought she was a snake
>>748233416no step on snek? more like i want that snek to step on me
>>748232025We're going to the new fed soon though. Dropping the game right during the filler china region is foolish. I liked both Rinascita and LR. The believe that your problem with the game can't be the quality of the region but rather the themes of it and you seem to be leaning way harder towards fantasy than SF. (even though frogs domain was basically science fantasy).
>>748233513hey man, I don't discriminate
>>748211084Because I stopped playing Arknights due the large amount of furry and gay shit in it.
>>748219415most modern Mihoyo players have no fucking idea what's HI3rd and not like they care even if they do.
>>748215261the problem is that endfield patches have been consistently bad except for that one patch. nigga it can't survive on 1 good patch per year
>>748227376This is stupid. Not even footfags like that.
>>748232921>>748233416>>748233513>sex incarnate making every other character in the game looks like shit>one of the worst characters gameplaywisewhy are they like this?
Endfield is great if you ignore the factory and just do story and exploration roughly every 6 months and don't bother with the typical gacha shit and "endgame" DPS checks.
>>748218545dude, do you play any real action RPGs at all or just gacha's? do you think all games only have characters with 3 or 4 moves?
>>748233636yeah I'm not holding my breath for new fed. if it turns out good? great. but so far there were more shit parts than good ones for meI haven't enjoyed anything the game offered in a while and the last patch really made me go "what the fuck am I doing here"and Rinascita was definitely more of a fantasy zone with all its fairytale and mythology influences etc but it struck just the right amount of fantasy and science for me, like a Final FantasyLahai Roi got mogged in both space and urban exploration by Genshin and NTE
>>748233961crazy how they shot themselves in the foot heh by doing that
>>748219130it was worse that dps slop. you would laugh your ass off what they consider peak combat gameplay
>>748215261>it gets good 200 hours in when you play 10 minutes daily for the same choresgachafags are retarded
>>748219470>you know what our players really want? to lose the 50/50 not once, but multiple times to a twink faggot before getting any character they wantthey didn't want to succeed in the first place
>>748233961>>748234330chinese gacha designers need to be studied. No one sane would come up with that
>>748211084Kek, I still remember the absolute marketing blitz even months before release, people constantly shilling this shit and wanking the absolute fuck out of Hypergrift. Hope they enjoyed eating this turd.
>>748234586it's because they put every girl in heelswhich is based except for the one time they decide not to do that, i.e. making a barefoot girl
>>748220342for endfield you are in for the best time of your life in a gacha game until everything is done and there is no content except for subsequent patches that feel like shit because they weren't worth the 40+ day waitwuwa? just play NTE instead
>>748211084Because it sucks/thread
>>748213659we would if the game was actually good but it isn't.
The character designs are plain terrible.
>>748232279except the china region in genshin had all sorts of conflict in it and mistakes made. why don't other gacha games copying genshin at least copy what was good about it
>>748233341only the good guys are allowed to use guns. get the fuck out of hers
>>748228226ZZZ designs have only gotten better besides a couple of misses recently. And I’ll take character designs with sex appeal and JKs over the generic milf garbage they’re forcing in Wuwa for the past year
>>748235120but fat tails tho
>>748235723>ZZZ designs have only gotten better besides a couple of misses recently.ehh I wouldn't say that but they are definitely more fun
>>748211084>GachaslopIn an era where piracy it's widely accesible, i am still surprised third worlders prefer to play these soulless games.
>>748218365You lost.
>>748211084I like factory games and survival gamesThis looked like a bad version of both of those with gachashit on top.
>>748211084I played the original phone gacha for a short while and while the plot was interesting the gameplay was ass and would make giant walls that you wouldn't be able to overcome unless you wasted a lot of time and/or money.And then endfield came out, with a plot that was not related in any way whatsoever with the original one.All the characters from the original game are basically dead and were replaced by not-clones without their personalities or completely shifted personalities, and while the launch was dogshit I personally think that was also a big factor as to why no one really cared.Yet I never see anyone bring up this point even though a lot of the community engagement was getting invested into the plot lines of the original game, also, imo, narrative was really downgraded in comparison of the original phone game which had like 20 plotlines going at once. Like yeah, not shit that if you remove the narrative investment from the narrative driven game people isn't going to stick around. They also made the endiminstrator basically a twink, which they also made it for blue archive which a lot of people fucking hated.
Giga boring story, factory gameplay so ass, during cutscenes girls are more touchy with femmc compared to malemc, need I say more?
>>748222103they both look like complete hoyoslop but at least the bottom one isn't some dogshit dress in tatters again
>>748233961There is one very niche bondage item which forces girls foot into tiptoe with naked toes but there's a metal piece underneath the heel so if she stops straining her legs into tiptoe the leg ends up touching a sharp end of the "stiletto". I think it was made to not seriously injure the girl. I've seen another variant of barefoot heels where the top is intact and it's rigid 3d printed piece that forces foot into tiptoe without the metal prong part. It has locking mechanism too.
>>748236463this anon knows
>>748235120I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, I always thought Arknights designs were horrible yet it took Endfield coming out for people to realize it
>>748237280epitome of chinkslop
>>748237061Bruh
>>748237280>These designs suck bro, they're not even wearing visible thongs and shoving their feet at the player's face
>>748237476Goonslop is better than dumb tacticool shit.
>>748237280What's wrong with these aside from sameface syndrome?
>>748237616Then by your definition azur lane must be the best game ever because all their art is basically porn
>>748237640He's entitled to dislike them
>>748237640there's nothing wrong with them
>>748228413Ass slamming has more soul than in every wuwa animation.
>>748237901Azur Lane fucking rocks because it knows exactly what it wants to be.Other gacha wish they had ALs level of confidence.
>>748238567AK/EF franchise is consistently tacticool/safehorny. Maybe you don't like their prude approach but they are confident on their designs. I don't like how coom AL is but i agree they chose their niche just like HG did.
>>748237280I've been digging through pron a while back and yeah, it struck me how bad a lot of them look if they're not naked
>>748237940that might as well be a wuwa charactersame nonsensical fashion but I guess that's "scifi clothes" for chinks
>>748237640Nothing, anon is just being a disingenuous faggot, you can say a lot of bad things about arknights, at least the phone game, but their art is top notch.Only no taste fags will say otherwise.>>748238567If you want to watch porn just watch porn.
>>748228413>gacha>gameplay
>>748237640Complete overdesigned, noisy mess that's often more worried with adding a le epic background almost overshadowing the character entirely (not in this case though). It was hoyoslop before hoyoslop. Also don't make me post Waai Fu.
>>748235564Because they made the Chinese God the best shielder for like 5 years straight and they made him the strongest Archon in lore and now they've even tied Liyue to one of the four strongest characters in the entire Genshin world
>>748237476are arkniggers the biggest pseuds in the gacha space
>>748239478>are arkniggers the biggest pseuds in the gacha spaceThat crown still goes to either R1999 or Limbus
Endfield is the best gacha game on the market right now.
>>748239645Limbers can't even read. And their fanbase is filled with robloxkids
>>748236463>They also made the endiminstrator basically a twinkThis. I played as male at first because it seemed right (I assumed Doctor in Arknights was male as well), but male Endmin is almost a midget, shorter than most male NPCs, so I said fuck it and switched to female, at least she has a cute frog voice.
>>748239134Waai Fu is the best furry in the whole genre though. So good she's almost acceptable as a person.
>>748239692So true endsis
>>748236463>narrative was really downgraded in comparison of the original phone game which had like 20 plotlines going at once. Like yeah, not shit that if you remove the narrative investment from the narrative driven game people isn't going to stick aroundAs someone who actually likes EF, i 100% agree with this
>>748211084I care. It's a good game, though less than the original Arknights.But as my friend, who is leaning towards leaving it, pointed out, there's not much to do once your stockbills are mostly done with. He's a factorio autist so he hates the Endfield factory aspects because they're so limited in scale, and the only things that he sticks around for are UM and the weekly Echoes of War.Personally, I like the factory parts being limited because it's manageable, and the game is easy to do stuff for, but some modes like Swordmancy Trials are pretty forgotten.I think overall the game mainly suffers from 3 things.>StoryIt's not that they have dogshit writers, but rather that it's way, way, too hard to tell an Arknights style story in high quality 3D. These are writers used to stories told in a visual novel format. You can easily get away with "The city was aflame in a sea of chaos. Charred corpses and crumbled homes violently seared their image into her blurry vision" in VN format, but not only do you have to SHOW that in a 3D format, you have to communicate the descriptives as well, which is extremely difficult and time consuming.In addition, it's fucking Yan content. In Arknights, Yan content became shit in the tail end of year 2 because of a gov't crackdown irl on games. It has never recovered and is the blandest yet most esoteric trash you will ever witness. They tried to dance around it in Endfield but at best they managed to do is Arcane having a decent personal story and tacking Sami content with a far more interesting premise...onto the Yan (Wuling) region.I think the game will improve a lot if it's given the chance to grow though. Arknights didn't even get the base management out of beta for 4 years and it's a great game. The Ursus (Russia) story they're doing right now is written really well, has fantastic theming and music, and even added full Russian voice acting for all the Ursus ops. A new IS coming up, plus new modes, etc. EF needs some of that.
>>748222103pay up 350 for a bench goy!
>>748211084>open gacha game>no fat sluts inside>close gacha game
>>748239478>shows night dress/swimsuit skin as if that's the originalpic related is the actual original look of Shiningor are you going to complain a gacha has a swimsuit skin line now?
>>748211084Its gachashit, but it also tries to mix open world slop and factory managament, which is a horrible combination.
>>748211084Faggiest shit I've seen in my life.
>>748240310i'm going to complain you tards act like you're above it all
>>748211084because it's boring, soulless and doesnt capture the essence of the original arknights
It's the best game ever, simple as.
>>748240310holy beltan zipper
>>748240203As someone who likes both Arknights and Factorio, Endfield just feels like so much wasted potential. I dislike gacha 3d action combat, I think the factory is way too limited and the story is also kinda meh. Game is also clearly designed to be played by brain damaged gachatards so the entire first zone has some of the worst tutorials and handholding i've seen in any game. I still trucked through to wuling and played until the release of arcane when I just decided to give up since I can't see this game improving until they at least leave wuling behind for a different zone.Also a lot of what made Arknights good is precisely because of the limited scope of the game, the low budget requirements to make new content means you actually get new content consistently. Most gacha events fucking suck because they are either recycled assets or some awful chores nobody actually likes doing, but AK gets away with having actual new and unique content in every event.>>748240594where the fuck is turbulence lowlight, you fucking hack
>>748240594>go with what we truly lovedI didnt know that meant only letting genshin players into betas and adjusting the combat system multiple times to cater to their feedback. Not to mention the quest and monetization structure is just genshit overhauled. So much passion lmao
>>748240594Dude's a fucking hack. Always has been.
>>748240310>>748239478>>748239134>>748237280Why are Chinks so fucking bad at making good designs?
>>748237280Now post FGO saberfaces.
>>748240378And now remember - you can be either gender here. There will NEVER be good writing coming out of this issue.
>>748237640>sameface>samehair>sameclothes
>>748211084It's the best gacha on the market though
>>748211084I still play it and like it, but it has a lot of problems>had a really long banner early in the game because they fucked up the patch cadence and lost a lot of people from that>banners too long in general and no simultaneous rerun banners>factory doesn't really have much purpose past a point you quickly hit>spark should carry over, gacha system in general isn't very good>you can 100% exploration in new regions in like a day
>>748239478>um our game is tacticool not cummy focusedyeah sure
>>748240896they just aped japs, "busier design is better design", then stuck with itat this point if any gacha does sensible designs, gachatards will revolt because characters will look like NPCs to them
>>748211084Endfield is pretty great as far as 3d gacha go. Cope harder.
>>748241931>almost all of their coom skins are free and limitedwhat the fuck are they thinking?
>>748241931Funny part is the right one is actually a downgrade in sizes/more normal compared to the original look.
>>748240814I don't see what that does to counteract his point, they clearly wanted some advice because they had no idea what the fuck they were doing outside of the concept, music, and aesthetics of it. People told them the shit was jank so they overhauled it and let the whole party be active at once instead of swapping all the time. The monetization though...yeah idk. The weapon tokens are so fucking annoying.
>>748213230>I will never understand why you people act like these games have any real differences in combatNow tell me how many different platformers or hack n slash games you've played. Or how many pokemon and fire emblem games?
>>748211084This game existed solely to spawn porn of the pink haired alligator girl with fat ass, it served it's purpose after that and faded into obscurity
I still like it. It could use something to work on for a bit longer than a day that isn't gimmicky bullshit like CC designed to screw over certain operators in a big way, but it's enjoyable enough.
>>748242419CC is still the best endgame content I've ever played in any gacha desuf2poor being able to clear risk 50+ while many lesser skilled whales barely clearing 40 is great stuffsure 55 was whale territory but it was also the top 0.1% of whale that didn't suck donkey dick at the game
>>748218068>factory sim gamesJobless
I'm this close to dropping the game because daily stuff takes too long between clue management, stock market and outpost stuff, having to visit 5 friends and then get nickle and dimed by the daily shop rotation. Who the hell thought fucking microsoft excel daily chores were a good idea?I've already cut out like 80% of the stuff that's technically daily but so superfluous and tedious you can disregard it unless you're desperate for stockbills like all the deliveries and environmental monitoring quests.I haven't even gotten to the part where you spend sanity. The game has no long term stamina dump so the only thing you can do is farm more fodder essences which is tedious as fuck even with turrets helping.The game looks nice and the factory mechanic is fun. It would've been a nice relink type game, but it's a boring live service game and a live service gacha to boot really needs to be prioritizing different things to what they're currently doing.
Combat system is one of the worst shit I've played in my life, worse than Genshit even
>>748211084No canon guga
>>748242229What point are you even trying to make? Are you suggesting platformers are all the same? Or that action gacha being all the same is somehow excused by one and the same franchise repeating its tried and true format among its installments?
>>748242603It's much better than genshin's and CC actually highlighted that it was the best combat system of any gachat. promoted nirvana several time, <180s Dire clear, 1% phantom pain cage, <1% deadly assault
>>748242538>Who the hell thought fucking microsoft excel daily chores were a good idea?Trying to appeal to Paradox gamers because they heard they love wasting their money on unfinished games
>>748242690>Are you suggesting platformers are all the same?As much as these action gachas are the same, yes.>the same franchise repeating its tried and true format among its installmentsGachas are just repeating tried and true formats
>>748242538All you have to do for dailies is go to the ship, give one gift, upgrade any weapon once (lv1 -> lv2 is fine), upgrade any character once (same as above) and sell whatever you're producing in your factories. That's it, your dailies, don't even have to come out of the ship. You can do it in 5 minutes including loading times. The rest is irrelevant.
>>748242839>As much as these action gachas are the same, yes.Oh, OK, then here's a final pity (You).
>>748242538If you have an automated essence farming spot you shouldn't take less than two minutes doing dailies. That being said, if you don't like doing dailies probably you should drop the game (or any game with "required login" mechanics)
>>748236287
I think Endfield arrived too late to the market.Had it released like 3 years ago, it could've been one of the big gachas by now.
>>748243017>waaaah I hate gachaslop, why would you even play them when they're all the same>tendie that's bought pokemon games in his life
>>748243098>shouldn't take morefix'd
>>748243209they are both on steam too lmao! zzz cucks btfo!!
>>748240763I am more here for the Arknights aspect and find Factorio to be not my thing (too much math and I hate the infinite scale aspect), the combat is fine though, I don't have any issues with it outside of there only being two types of basic attack (normal and jump).But yeah, like I said, Yantent just isn't going to be good because of the heavu leash on it to the gov't (inb4 but hoyo did it, not applicable because HG is under more scrutiny due to AK fans causing the purge).And yeah, that's the other side of the visual novel story vs 3D story I mentioned. The gameplay just lends itself to more variety in AK over EF, but that's also partially because of the fact that AK has existed longer rather than just having a better genre. There's very few enemies to work with at the moment in EF and some are reskins with an extra attack (e.g. the blightshade toad vs the fire toad). I'll also say that there's no compelling antagonist while we're at it. They went way too hard on making the landbreakers evil psychotic cannibal crackheads. The Siracusa related offscreen faction doesn't change that all we've fought are animalistic monsters, animals, and irredeemable drug addicts. AK, as mediocre as everything outside of Frostnova and Mephisto/Faust were in the Reunion arc, had an antagonist that was a great deal more interesting. Ardashit is worthless and so is Neffy.But, and I had to remimd myself here because otherwise I'd just be wholly joining in, they do recognize these issues and the Sami content recently was like a breath of air to a drowning man, so I hope more will come in that vein.
>>748241931Sex with both of these succubi.
>>748211084It's a gacha.
>>748243746>Losing to a phone game that is also olderYikes
>>748242105Fat fuck makes Tomimi look thin
>>748244515>game x made less millions than y!!waow how will they ever cope lmao
>>748244737This argument works perfectly fine to dunk on EF tho
>>748211547>ZZZ has the best combatSpamming the spacebar while button mashing left click is so fvcking awesomeLet's be fucking real. Wuthering Waves combat before 3.4 was the best.But now Kuro is printing characters whose entire rotation can be executed by LITERALLY holding down your left mouse button. Not clicking. Just hold. Then you press glowing buttons.It's my fault, really, wanting fun combat from gacha games of all things.
>>748211084>original game protected shipperfags and bullied waifufags>endfield bully shipperfags and want waifufags>waifufags dont trust hypergryph because of arknights>shipperfags feel betrayed>game diesyou reap what you sow
>>748242083hey you gotta have a nice prize like the Mousse tummy outfit to motivate people to play shit like Stronghold ProtocolAnd there's plenty of Coral Coast outfits in the shop, they're like half the L2D celebration ones.
>>748227526>I'm gonna get this character and then uninstall the game!!!What the ACTUAL FUCK is this mental illness?
>>748245128well your account remains but the game just hogs space if you don't play itnothing stops you from downloading it a year later or something
>>748244934bullshit, the waifufags are fucking everywhere with AK and there's almost no couples in either game
>>748245291When you drop an anime, you don't return to finish it.When you drop a game, you don't return to finish it.Why do people have FOMO for their account rosters when they're fucking quitting?
>>748244515Bimbus bumpany bimmies again
>>748245381>When you drop a game, you don't return to finish it.I do that
>>748245527Then you didn't drop the gameIs English your primary language, buddy, or what
>>748242517Don't get me wrong, CC was really good, but as a Fangyifag it frustrated me because it was hugely anti-Fangyi with the settings. I think I managed like 51 through sheer stubborness at the end, but I couldn't be assed to push any further.Especially since rewards stopped at like 25.
factory stuff is too hard once you reach wuling
>>748242538Bro the dailies take like 10 minutes at most.20 every so often if you need to gather some mats.>visiting friendsNear worthless unless you're still trying to buy things out or you refresh and need 100 coins to get some tokens>Buying and Selling stocksI literally don't even sell anymore. I think i have a good 15k+ things sitting around to sell and only buy for the daily and only for Wuling at that.>Sanity useStupidly fast with a developed team (if you have no mat you need, farm credits) and stupidly afk for essence farming.>GatheringBecomes useless once you have a stock and can be made faster with ziplines to spots you might actually need. Only have to do this every few days>PhotosOnly one new one for each spot every couple of days so you can do them all every like 6 days and you don't need to interact with the spots it points you to or even be that close a lot of the time.>deliveriesUseless. I don't do any of them anymore.>Ship matsWorthless and already made effortless>Valley IVI do absolutely nothing here anymore because I have all limited shit bought and like 400 fucking tickets for essences.>Sword trainingUseless once you have all rewards or are new and need credits>ArcherySee above, except I don't even remember it givng credits.
>>748245728Everything timed is anti-Fangyi, her ult is slow and her damage is heavily ult loaded.
>>748246608This but 2 minutes>2x ticket a Protocol Space with Fangyi in 20 seconds (1:30 if using an alluvium though)>Use up stock thingy>craft a shitty item>craft fodder gearDone.Don't need anything else unless the photo shit is full but that's like once a week.I take 5 minutes because I still set delivery transfers despite the meagre payoff.
>>748246612Anon, the entire benchmark mechanic you could pick, the one that guts battle damage, was insanely anti-Fangyi. Her main upside was the ult reduction didn't affect her.Which, when compared to the massive buff to stuff like combust/corrosion choice meant using her was vastly harder than those people that ran Wulfgard teams, much less those also using Estelle leads.I've had no issues clearing things with her, even those 1m completion war fights. If I fail, I played badly is all. The bar was just insane for CC.
>>748244359You wouldn't say that if you knew Caper is BRAZILIAN
>>748247286Yeah but the whole point was that it was clearable with Estella (poor croc...), Wulfgard, Perlica, and Ardelia, all free units.They had to kneecap something, and it was mostly 6* ones that were. It was also partially because element burst teams were kind of rarely used by a lot of players outside of Solidification teams at that point.
can anyone post anti retard blueprints for both regions
How do one fail at making a Genshin-like? Combat is not be all end all, but it has to be "decent" (whatever that means) enough to grant legitimacy to the rest of the game.
>>748241931>moom look I posted summer skins again XD*yawn*
>>748249080>How do one fail at making a Genshin-like?by fucking up the world
>>748247769Honestly, a lot of that probably boils down to a mix of stuff being about timers and having a dodge.DoT damage would be more valuable if you had to stop attacking to actually avoid mechanics.>>748249080I dunno, but failing at being a genshin-like can only be a good thing because genshin was boring as fuck.
>>748249080I don't know what you are getting at since Endfield's combat is much better than Genshin's
>>748219005GFL2 started horrendously but kept getting better nad better for a long time. It legit has a great story now.
>>748227376>Grok make me a generic fox girl
>>748250312>and don't forget to make her as gray as possible
>>748240896Those franchises make billions so it's working.
>>748249080You cannot make a genshin without going back in time and releasing it in the right time. Live services are all about being part of the group, not about the best game. All the predatory sunk cost/fomo mechanics do help a lot though, but they are a negative until people became part of the group, making so every following game will have either a larger barrier of entry or less mechanics to hold people after they are done with the base game.
One of the main problem is not concluding the fucking 1st game's main story when making a fucking sequel.
>>748211113Open world?
>>748242538>I'm this close to dropping the game because daily stuff takes too long between clue managementThis was my reason for dropping it too. It's too "game" instead of "mobile gacha" for daily maintenance. I gotta find the time to boot up my PC, log in, sell factory, teleport to ship, do sword vault content if I want my catalysts, use up my sanity, it takes over 10 minutes. In arknights I tap the base a few times, game takes a few minutes to autoclear whatever event is on, and I'm done for the day before I even leave my bedroom. Don't get me wrong, I love being able to play my games but it's very counter intuitive to what they're trying to do here.
>>748214204>>748214287Why is NTE the only big 3d gacha game that understands that skins sell? Fucks sake, 1.0 had more skins than Genshin has in its entire history up to 7.0
>>748251619Yeah, because story of first game is important for barely related game taking place 300 years later on another planet.
>>748211084too much annoying gameplay for a phone gamenot enough gameplay to make me bother booting it at homeI was misled (I was originally advised the game was a standalone factorio release not a shitty genshin clone)At least, that's how it goes for me. Maybe I'll watch a YT video about the story every 2 years since I care about Arknights
>>748252598it's even dumber because Genshin has the roblox mode now and they've been pumping out new outfits for the player characters like crazymeanwhile the actual gacha characters get SHIT
>>748252612It is when the sequel spoilers the ending.
I just dont like the clothing style most of the characters wear.
>>748252598Gacha devs are consistently 5 years behind
>>748252981>gacha>ending
>>748252598>the only big 3d gachaLeague of Legends did skin gacha first
How do you solve swapslop combat? Endfield tried but it really does not "feel" any different.>just have one characterThey need to sell characters somehow, so I can see why they always make games with parties of 3 or 4.
I understand gripes about a trivial factory mode, but being a mobile game, did you actually expect Satisfactory the game on top of the regular game.
>>748253250You don't with mobile controls. Modern action-JRPGs usually have 8 skills per character, so you can control one and let the AI control the rest. With sensor screen, 2 skills per character is the best you gonna get in non-turn-based game.
>>748211084i didnt stopthey're the only 3d game with oppai loli character so they're automatically based
>>748253250FF7 Remake
>>748253364allegedly they want to expand on the factory until it is satisfactory-like down the line
>>748253250dragon's dogma clone but hot gacha girls4 niggas on the field
>>748211158this
>>748253871It's better than both thoughever
>>748211084Im still playing the game, sci fi stories where humanity died out/is dying out and you play as a remnant of it while the world is dominated by other races always fascinated me. Never played Arknights but Im curious to find out Endmins identity and from what I gathered from lore videos is that the precursors are the actual last dregs of OG humanity. What I dont get is how no character ever questions Endmins lack of animal ears or tails lol.
>>748249081>Le summer doesn't count... because!The cheerleader one isn't a summer outfit either, it's a sports line one.Here's a normal year 1 operator you babyfucking nigger.
>>748255062>ahhh is that a woman without burka I'm going insane
>>748255237I mean yeah the point was that AK ops dress sexy outside of seasonal skins.
>>748254186Some Aegir also lack any animal parts so people probably just assume hes one of them
>>748253480They should just make a near infinite hammerspace that has the factory separately to appease the autists who hate it because of the lack of scale. Give it infinite mats too and just have it pump out vanity items or some shit.
>>748255483>that>sexyok retard
>>748254028Not really. It has excellent level design but the combat is ass and factorio shit sucks.
>>748254028No
>>748211084other automation autism games:>build base, optimize it>unlock new shit>use your foundation you've already optimized to expand it furtherendfield:>build base, optimize it>unlock new shit>everything you did prior to this is now void, flatten everything and start over again>or just slap down some prebuilt blueprintendfield completely misses the point of these autism games. on top of it all, it's too simplistic because it's gacha, and its combat related gameplay isn't very fun (everything is just build stack - buff yourself - consume stack for big damage).it tries a really cool blend of two things and kinda fails at both. it's a shame, I really wanted to like this game.
>>748255875Yes
>>748254186Several races bear little in the way of physically expressed traits visible outside their clothing, such as Petram (turtles) or some Sarkaz/Teekaz subraces (demons and monsters).Like the other anon said, some also simply are varied enough, especially ægir characters, that Endmin is mistaken for one in a cutscene. In addition, racial trait expression in any individual can vary from just animal ears to being a full on humanoid animal, and some subraces have ancient racial traits that aren't seen on most of their modern younger counterparts, such as wings on Gargoyles that are only seen in flashback and what if scenes.
>>748255667>Schwarz>UnsexyCeylon, kill this man. He's not fit to breed your bodyguard.
>>748227376>says while posting a copied snowbreak designlmao
>>748255584Really? I dont recall seeing another character that looked like a normal human while playing.
>>748256206>Snowbreak invented foxgirls
>>748256495I don't think Aegir have even appeared in Endfield yet but yes, some Aegir are functionally indistinguishable from humans appearance wise
>>748256206if i DLSS 5 this fox, would she die?
>>748255976I see. But from what I can tell by playing all patches so far the Endmin is the only one without any such traits, right? Or am I missing something in context why nobody remarks on this ingame, I never played Arknights. >>748227376This is an Endfield thread. Why are you seething over ZZZ? Dont post in gacha threads often exactly for this reason, it always defaults to flamewars ffs. /vg/ is even worse.
>>748256740Oh, interessant. So Endmin could also be part of this Aegir race? Are they a direct offspring of humans? From lore vids I thought all Terrans evolved from native wildlife, hence the animal traits.
>>748257150Nah, Aegir are aquatic life that evolved thanks to originiumMost likely theories are Endmin is either a Predecessor (super high tech ancient humans) or a sentient originium construct
>>748256893The problem with endmin is that they haven't finished the first game storyline, and he's obviously meant to be the next in the line of "Doctors" from the first game, but since WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHAT HAPPENS YET FOR SOME FUCKING REASON we will probably never get an answer to that question.In the first game aegirs were fucking everywhere mostly due to the state of the world being in a giga genocidal war against oriphaty people and on top of that you had the political intrigue of like 5 countries at least, theres a lot of shit that the original game hasn't closed on yet.
>>748257406Oh ok how come they dont have fish traits? As for predecessors, in Arknights they were basically gone except for the MC in that game and a few other people ,right? Do I understand it right from last patch that Ardashir was working for an actual organisation of predecessors i.e. real human beans?
>>748254186>you play as a remnant of itYou play as a magic rock taking human shape
>>748257975That would be an originium construct right? Is that confirmed?
>>748256893People joke that Endmin is a penguin so often that she even uses a penguin bandaid in a cutscene, and the actual penguin Liberi has a similar hairstyle in Arknights (Magallan) and exhibits zero bird traits.In EF, the Endmin's purposely vague and probably bears a precursor connection but no one around them really cares because it's so hard to tell with some races. This is also a plot point in Arknights, with some Caprinae (sheep/goat people) shaving their horns to resemble Sarkaz (demon) ones to act as spies.
>>748258496I see. How widespread is knowledge of the precursors anyway, that might be where my confusion comes from. If their existance isnt widely known it would make sense why nobody would care about Endmins lack of animal features.
>>748257652Aegir do have fish traits but most of them only have pointy ears so they look like sea elves (not to be confused with actual elves, which are a different race). Andreana has octopus tentacles above her asshole, several fish or whale ops have bog standard fish tail butts, Glaucus, our resident cripple, has the cutesy Blue Glaucous ears.Precursors were wiped out by an unknown mechanical race known as Observers. They placed a starpod to cover Terra and shield it from the Observers in space, which was bypassed by using a Stargate known as the Door in the Infy Icefield, which is why the start of the game is in a cold area before you wake up the Endmin. Ardashir was with uh...we don't really know. The Foundation just uses their creations.
>>748259074It seems relatively well known by the time of Endfield but was only known by the Aegir nation (which basically made Atlantis from it) and a few select people in Arknights originally. In Endfield, the church has pivoted to idolizing precursor stuff now rather than The Law alone (an AI overseer of the "angel" based race). Read Xaihi's info for more on that.
>>748258087Only in allusions by the crackhead crock and in visuals of Endmin's powers
>>748259074You have to understand one major thing here, and that's that one of the major effects of Originium on animals and native species is that it forces them to mutate into humans. Every single race of animal or demon or monster people on Terra and Talos is the same SPECIES, they can all fuck and have fertile offspring (i.e. the biological definition of what makes things the same species). This results in some looking more human than others. No one would question it even if you were absolute bog standard. They literally even have actual isekai'd humans in some collabshit and it makes no difference. The only exceptions are things like animals mutated into horrific abominations by dead, decaying originium without enough energy to properly do what it's supposed to.
>>748211084It suffers from the modern game curse. It looks great at the cost of everything else. The first shartknights also has a good niche in being a tower defense so there really isn't much overlap between liking tower defenses and playing temu genshin. That being said, sex with typhon, sex with whishlash, sex with myrtle.
>>748259201So humanity is completely gone then?As for the Ardashir death scene, I guess I misinterpreted Nefariths dialogue. It sounded like they were working for a precursor org.>>748259390>the church has pivoted to idolizing precursor stuff now rather than The Law alone (an AI overseer of the "angel" based race). Read Xaihi's info for more on that.Which church and law are we talking about? And Xaihis info is that a doc in archives?
>>748259948The Observers destroyed something called the Network and trillions of people died. The last survivors went into cryosleep but perished, except for The Doctor (Oracle) and his partner, Priestess, one man and one woman. A third preserved his mind digitally and was uploaded to a robot, his name was Trevor Friston (operator Friston-3).That's all.
>>748259948Seraphine Xaihi's file or the Cabal of Tranquility file in the archive stuff on the menu screen. The Law is an old precursor monitor AI that presided over the Terra equivalent to the Vatican.
>>748259465I see, I guess humanity cant use originium arts then. So Endmins not a human but a living rock, kinda lame lol. I was hoping he would be a human from the past or something.>>748259907Why does it force humanoid forms onto them?
>>748261026They are biologically human. If you fucked Yvonne's tight wyvern pussy she'd get pregnant and her baby would still be able to have kids when it grows up. This is a huge fucking plot spoiler so uhIf you ever plan on reading any of AK or playing it, consider not reading this, but uh...Originium was a project to preserve what was left of the civilization and leave some way to survive a future Observer incursion. When Originium is seeded onto a planet, it will immediately consume all natural resources, particularly oil/fossil fuel, and convert it to energy. It will also record all data from everything it consumes or grows on to ensure it's indestructible in the case of an invasion, storing it in a simulated universe shared across all Originium. This ranges from people (Endfield's Reconveners) to places, to ideas, to the building blocks of life. When someone is Infected, the Originium is actually recording them so they won't be lost if the world were to end. To grow a civilization like their own, Originium was also designed to force the native inhabitants of a planet to evolve into humans and build a society akin to our own, hence the commonalities with our cultures. It would also contain much of the ideas of the old world and be able to distribute them.The Precursors left several other projects on Terra, including the Seaborn (horrible monsters originally meant to be terraformers), the Stargates (to travel without the Observers noticing, this ended terribly and unleashed a horde of alien cosmic horrors onto the world), and various devices. It also happens to be the case that you can force devolve any Terran into their original form, which results in some pretty awful things, like a girl being turned into a dog or a boy stepping into a Precursor device and turning into a monstrous flightless bird that emits lethal poison when it sings.
>>748211171Wait we are still there????? That's the reason I bailed, bamboo place got over stayed after 48 hours it should've been Siberia or something instead or the desert
>Endmin...I know so much...so much it hurts>I will tell you everything when you come back...>*flesh form dies*someone at gryph seriously thought this was an acceptable hook to keep players playing
>>748211113FPBP
>>748262624central china is done, now we're in north china, and soon colder north chinawe're gonna be in china for another year endmin, please keep playing
I want a tiddie gacha game that doesn't pretend to have gameplay. Just give me a fucking spreadsheet to sort out with giant tiddies bouncing all around. That's fine. No one plays this shit for the gameplay. Can't they just admit that already?
>>748262624They know people are sick of it so they sent us to a subregion of it that's entirely decorated and filled with Sami (Iceland/Sweden) content, including Sarkaz dream constructs and Sami buildings. It's good enough for now but yeah.
>>748213230PGR has decent combat and characters with some sauce. The only issue I’m seeing is that if you play the game the developer-intended “optimal” way, then you just spam cutscene moves and cycle to the next character to spam their cutscene moves on repeat.
>>748262909>I don't know if I can trust you yet>this question is not for me to answer>you have to find your own answer
>>748264909why does she have sex hair in this pic
>>748211084No futanari ops like arknights.
>>748211084For me it was two simple reasons. Horrible monetization, and no reason to log in. I liked the game and had fun with it but my rule of thumb for Gacha games is that f2p should give you the girls. Period. Playing the game should give you everything you need to get at minimum one copy of the girl. Endfield failed to do that.
>>748265018her hair is always sex
>>748265753Monshter sex...
>>748263329Just play an era game then
>>748236287ACK
>>748230494>Yeah its a great side game that filters browns and gachabrainsBut browns are the only ones playing Endfield
>>748211084No loli.
>>748267053>Silver Palace
>>748211272You are not forced to use blueprints
>>748211084I am spending 47k yen this sunday
The new cast is gay and lame
>>748270252I missed the Yvonne one...Why the fuck is she wielding the Monaihe anyway? The only op wielding their sig in their art is Avywenna.
>>748262909except he doesn't die
>>748263458no, it still sucks pretty hard and not worth the 40+ day wait. I think there was 1 or 2 interesting moments. I've already forgotten about it
>>748255938can't depend on a gacha game to have deep gameplay mechanics. it has to rely on other things to make it interesting and the devs failed. the game has very little soul. it's not self-aware. it looks pretty and feels empty
>>748254186they already know endmin is special. hence all the glazing and every man and woman on the planet having slept with endmin at some point in the past
>harem self-insert generic gacha>the MC self insert character is by far the most boring and bland out of any gacha game
>>748252612I'm hoping they will resolve the plot holes of there being ancient tolasian artifacts yet people have only been there for about 100 years, by introducing a twist revelation that people have been living on talos 2 for actually over 1000 years but civilization has been destroyed several times already and one of the story arcs is stopping it from happening again. my eyes rolled out of my head when we found "ancient" yanese characters and an "ancient" cache in swordvale. give me a fucking break, no one can be this bad at writing and be allowed to have a job as a writer
Very unfortunate to hear the game appearently isn't very good, cause female Endministrator is extremely cute.
>>748242538newb
Why does this game makes so many people seethe? It's the easiest least commitment 3d semi openworld in the market right now
>>748239332they did that because their own Chinese playerbase campaigned for it and it has nothing to do with what I said either way
>>748275613I wouldn't call it 'seethe' but people do like exaggerating for effect but primarily it seems to be disappointment aka the difference between what is and that they wanted. It doesn't matter if it's "the easiest least commitment 3d semi openworld in the market right now" if it's not what they thought it was going be or not what they want
It isn't like monster hunter enough.
>>748275613Endfield frustrates me because I want to enjoy it but the combat is dogshit. I think they did a great job graphically with the game, and it even has some pretty good sound design, but man, the combat is just a total bore or 2 billion particle effects going off constantly. I even think the english voice cast is pretty solid minus a few stinkers.
>>748275613>It's the easiest least commitment>Quality of Life means I dont have to play the game!
>>748219919I remember being there and getting a free keychain for defeating a boss. They did a collab too and I bought a cool jacket. Fun times.
have no idea about gatchas download gamehigher production values than paid single player jrpgswhatgaming sure has changed weeb bros
>>748277554Have fun anon, the game has some very obsessed and vocal haters for a reason
>>748270704did you want to say gray and lame? because i agree
>>748277554>play for a few months>realize you were fooled by the flashy surface and the game is actually an empty, repetitive wasteland not even meant to have any goal or resolution>it's all just a big commercial and you're being strung along to bleed your wallet little by little>the impressive production values go down the drain after the first year when the main audience has moved on to the next flavor of the month game>realize every gacha is like this
>>748278340You can just play through the story and quit lol
>>748278340>every gacha is like thisLiterally not a single one of the 3d gachas has done this
>>748278502You can't when the story doesn't and isn't even meant to have any satisfying stopping point. This is also essential gacha design philosophy
>>748278828>You can'tYeah you can.
>>748278876No you can't
>>748211084The character designs are ass or somethingThe only characters I know of this game is the red riding food fox
>>748275613its also one of the greediest and least generous gachas on the market so that cancels out the low commitment aspect
>>748279002My mind is still blown that they implemented a pity system, but it doesn't actually count towards banner guarantee. Just a massive "EAT SHIT" to players but everyone somehow did eat it up
>>748278340More often than not the production goes up for any minimally successful gacha, after a shitty first release when they ran out of money and rushed all kinds of changes after the closed beta. Though after that they will probably stagnate after a few years.
>>748279002This is another blantant lie.If you take only the free pulls it gives about the same as Genshin which is enough pulls to reach one coinflip per patch. However, on Endfield you are guaranteed to get the character at 120 pulls. Genshin only gives you a guarantee if you lost your first coinflip, so that makes it 150-160 pulls for it.
>>748279206They only put budget into the superfluous anime movies telling the irrelevant story, while the actual gameplay turns more and more linear and restricted, and technical issues ramp up
>>748279301>If you take only the free pulls it gives about the same as Genshin which is enough pulls to reach one coinflip per patchEndfield doesn't give you 60 rolls per patch, not even close...
>>748279475It does, you just have to play the game.
>>748211084Factory is meh. my valley4 factory is pretty forgotten and is just there to generate items to sell. This is why I got lazy with my wuling factory. I'm so far behind I only added a hetonite production just today. Combat is not as great as others are saying. While it's not swap slop it might as well be since the other 3 are glorified cheerleeders and are just there to buff your dps. Story is dogshit wordslop just like the original. The best advise I can give is to not use blueprints to actually enjoy the factory.
>>748279141>everyone somehow did eat it upThat was one of the primary complaints when the game launched.
>>748278905Yeah you can.
>>748278340>you don't play gatchas>go to gatcha threads and say retarded shit>realize every gacha obsessed retard is like this
>>748230961Thank you doro, have a good day as well
>>748279538You get max 200 beryls a day for login tasks. That's 7x200x4=5,600/month, provided you're a diligent bugman and never miss a day. The treasure chests in one map give you 60-120 per box and there are like a dozen or something? That's barely 1000-2000 beryls. The story itself 600/chapter and there are typically two chapters. The gayass events give you like 60-120 per objective. Those are the main sources of currency, which bring you nowhere near 30,000. Where do you get the rest? I haven't even saved 60 rolls in four months because I have life too
>>748279750>be a retarded whale>greentext without argument
>>748279810Open wide anonhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zGNuQ53R7c190RG40dHxcHv8tJuT3cBaclm8CjI-luY/htmlviewAlso I "have a life" too and I'm doing much better than you with my pulls. Sucks to be you I guess?
>>748279631>Story is dogshit wordslop just like the original.t.barerly literate brown person allergic to readingthis is why you can never trust online opinions.
>>748250036>stagger enemy>finishing blow takes precedence over your final attack string bricking your rotationthat single thing alone makes the combat worse than genshins.
>>748245603I think you're being a bit too pedantic. Some people might pick-up a dropped game, and then that fox will be on their account when they restart. If they're really lucky, fox might even be meta by then (or still). If they're 90% sure they won't return to the game, it's perfectly reasonable to say they "drop" the game, while doing this one minor thing that insures them for the 10% scenario. Remember that most of these people are just dumping their last accumulated rolls on that character. Nobody is spending money on a character and then immediately dropping the game. You probably don't play gacha games, but in literally every single gacha game you can guarantee ANY character for free. A single character that is. The games make money by making it so you need 5, or 10, or 20 characters, or dupes. Which is ofc not free.
>zzz gets a chinese arc, it kills the game for every patch aside from shungus>wuwa starts on chinese arc and nearly dies, gets back to chinese arc and giga dips again>ak has the amazing idea of starting with a chinese arcHoly fuck stop with the fucking chinese arcs, there's no a single gacha with a good chinese arc
>>748255938If you don't enjoy refactoring your build you're a fake factory enjoyer. Plus, if you actually optimized your setups for size and efficiency, half the time when you get asked to make new stuff, you have so much unused space you can just plop it down anywhere you want.I've never played a factory game before this but this weird 'le factory must grow xddd' expand at all costs quantity over quality shtick is so lame. I can already tell that statistically most self-described 'factory players' are just the genre's equivalent of casual larpers.
>>748280092Original AK started in China (aide from prologue), and it did fine.
>>748279884>lol just buy the rollskys nigger
>>748280092Endfield 1.0 has the exact same layout as Genshin 1.0 did.
>>748280695>still moving the goalpostJust disable the paid pulls on the chart, the argument doesn't change.
>>748211084I got a glimpse of Arknights lore with the Limbus collab event and midway through it i was like:>"Yeah... You know what? Imma just skip everything and go full unga, this worldbuilding, no, the whole ass thing is just BORING as fuck"To this day, i still don't want to know anything else about Arknights besides the EoS news, for both of their games.>"Should I play Limbu-"No, in-fact, don't play any Gacha, just enjoy the porn and the music, perhaps monster designs, and call it a day. Don't waste your time with any of them. I, we, do because we got into a habit. Don't get this fucking habit.
>>748279975Stop larping retard, more is almost never better for literature and stories. This is why most worlds classics is pretty compact while only wordy shit is a 3rd grade serialized slop for teenagers
>>748281187good morning wuwajeet saar
>>748281187Initial Arknights story is cool: space cancer which gives magical power but kills you really fast, this donkey girl on your pic is demon lord who will doom entire world or something like that, main theme when frost bitch is dying is heavy and it was all 1st year of Arknights, then developers drop everything - space cancer? who cares, it's free power. donkey girl as a demon lord? nope, never heard about. deaths in our game? of course not, nobody dies. oh and we don't research space cancer anymore because we are PMC for hire
>>748279884>counts urgent recruitlmao
>>748281672>still at itJust disable it retard
>>748281654And then they just kept coming up with the new world enders every major event, because in gachashit you can only escalate
>>748281427i get it i offended you but that was not my intention just an honest observation. you can't really count on online opinions to see if the story is decent or not because people say retarded shit.
>>748281654>then developers drop everything - space cancer? who cares, it's free powerexcept it kills billions and becomes a more and more pressing issue in setting - just less focus on your cute waifus dying because of it>donkey girl as a demon lord? nope, never heard aboutexcept it's a central plot point of multiple events, entire second story arc and IS5>deaths in our game? of course not, nobody dieslolgood job showing the class that you never played the game
It cant be decent because gacha stories are made out of obligations to drag on while the profit is running, even when they really need to end already.Its a fiction on life support
>>748255062This is the one time they tried to go for the sexy route with base characters (the better known one was Chen alter from the same event). They received such a backlash they never ever did it again. So yeah, this one shows a lot of skin and it was a mistake they don't repeat anymore.
Came to the thread for penguin.Was disappointed.
>>748282626Thats because she always has the mask on in game.
>>748282626>the whole legacy of flopfield is gugugaga and Perlica in fortnight
>>748282764Who is character in your pic? Vtuber?
>>748282793Yes, her name is Boku Piko.
>>748282793new rising gay vtber piko
>>748211547>Wuthering Waves has the best storysnrk
>>748211547Wuwa's story is like, they made a really awesome story, but you only get a fanmade youtube summary of it.
combat is fucking trash and mind numbingly boring.firing off 4 ultimates destroy the whole little combat flow the game has, it's that boring to wait them out.
>>748211084The only person I know who likes this game publicly berated his girlfriend for having a miscarriage during a previous relationship so I just assume it's dogshit since only fucking retards play gacha games.
>>748211084Is gacha dying or was the game itself really that bad? I only know Arknights from its tower defense game.
>>748279301This is a lie and ignores that if you don't roll the remaining 60 rolls between 60 and 120, anything after 60 is completely lostand that's not even getting into the fact the weapon banner uses a separate gacha currency which has a worse conversion rate than character, and the primary way to get said weapon gacha currency is by rolling on the character banner, which leads to the scenario where getting an early character on the character banner is actually detrimental at least pity on character actually carries on genshin
>>748284990both
>>748284990A bit of both, the game definitely released too early. Everything now is the exact same as it was at launch 9 months ago. No major updates that shook up gameplay or anything. Needs another year or two in the oven
>>748211506>one of the worst launches in gacha historyI think that's Tower of Fantasy.
I like GFL2
