>$1.9 million copies in 3 days>/v/ will still insist that it’s flopping
it is
>>748211835Once someone who faces consequences for deception says it (Sony, Insomniac) I'll believe it.
How many copies does it need to sell to break even?
>>748211835>$300m+ budget It's a flop
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yeah because it is considering this same shit keeps getting posted and this needed like three times that to actually make money
>>748211835>pre-orders
>>748211835I bought it twice to own the chuds.
>dollar sign before the copies sold numberYep, that's a "South Asian".
>>7482118898-9M
>>748211835Unironically this >>748211927At the cost and budget, the "Break even" point where they did all that work to essentially make no money but just get their money back later (And simultaneously damage the brands of insomniac games and marvel and wolverine) is roughly 7 million1.9 million is nothing
>>748211835Most people in this world are retarded.
>>748211835>an estimate from Alinea analyticsReminder, Sony and Insomniac haven't posted shit about the sales. And you can bet your ass they would considering how much the game is getting shit on by everyone.
>>748212098throw me a copy
>>748211927What's 2 million x 70?
>>748211835Only ten million more at full price to break even.
Marvel gets a cut of over 20% on nearly every sale, bundles included
>>7482121547 million sales needed in the first YEAR. They achieved 1.9 million in 3 days.
>>748211835>licensing fees>publisher cut>marketing costsyep, it's a flop. They can't admit it since everything leading up to Secret War has to be a success
>>748211835The budget was 300+ million. With marketing probably 450+ million. The game flopped and who knows if it will ever be profitable.
>>748212315>They achieved 1.9 million in 3 daysAccording to an unofficial source.
>1.9 Million snoysGrim
>>748211835The source just extrapolated 400k sales in physical and added 70% or imaginary digital sales
>the normies all got fooled by marketing>the next Insomniac game will see a serious drop in sales, just like Spider-man 2's controversy led to a serious drop in sales for this ga... ohWhen will you finally accept that the modern audience exists and has plenty of disposable income?If you don't like AAA games, don't play them. They're not made for crusty 30 year olds and your opinion doesn't count for anything anymore.
>>748211835>$300M+ game's budget>$“X”M ad's budget>20% cut for Marvel
He'll flop ya. Flop ya for real
has any non flop ever had to put out press releases that it didn't flop?
>>748211835>spend 300mil>make 100mil>/v/ will say this is a flopUmmm, yes?
>>748212315 It's failing. Bye bye insomniac. You won't be missed.
>1.900.000 copies sold (no proof anywhere)>$60 pricetag>114.000.000 revenue>game had $300.000.000 development budget>its down $186.000.000. It hasn't made even half its budget >"this is a success actually"
1.9m is far from enough to break even
>>748211835It's a 3/10 game.If it sells another 4 million copies it will be a 3/10 game.
>>748211835Source? Why haven't Insomniac, or Sony said anything?
>>748211927>300m budget>graphics 10m>gameplay 0>marketing 200m>coke and whores 90m
>>748212665It's a 70 dollar game, actually.
>>748212775$133.000.000STILL hasn't made back half its budget
Insomniac and sony won.Chuds lost.
1.9mil players would make it as popular as elden ring on release by the waythese players are nowhere to be found
>>748211835>$1.9 million copiesHow many copies is dollar one point nine million copies?
>>748211835>Disingenuous OP pretends football gamers won't buy anything with a Marvel nameYes. These people will also buy GTA. They will buy sportsball, call of duty, GTA and big name movie game. Correct.
>>748212908at $60 it's less than 32,000 copies
>>748211835Using a typified dropoff trend, would suggest the sales will stall at about 210 milly when we know they spent 305 on it so...
>>748211835it is
>now we don't even say it's an analyst firm's data>"oy goyim look our gaem is successful!!!!"What did she mean by this? How much money did she get paid to do shilling for a multi billion dollar company?
>>748213496Snoyjeets do it for free.
>>748211835THIS!We're having a blast playing this game
>>748212540>modern audience existsIt doesnt.All of "successful" woke shit games are games based on something made earlier.None of the standalone woke games succeeded.
>>748211835>budget of $300mLmao good luck breaking even with that
>>748212315>In 3 daysMost big budget games do 20-40% of their lifetime sales in the first weekSo its projected based on that to sell anywhere between 4.7 mill to 9.5 mill roughly.>In the first yearNo it needs 7 mill to break even period, even they received every single penny from sales which they don't. Its probably more akin to 10 million sales to comfortably break even. A product you invested years of resources and 300 million USD into, returning the money you invested after being a bit of a brand damager after a year or so, was a fuck awful use of time and money
>>748212479
>>748215096reminder that they own Sunset Overdrive IP, Microsoft let them have it.
>>748212098I bought 5, goml sister! #chudlivesdontmatter
>>748211835it happened witb Nolan's Odyssey and it's happening again with Wolverine>"heh, go woke go broke! this is gonna flop bigly!">the numbers start rolling in>"uh it's obviously fake! my niche echo chamber IS right and there is NO way that Wolverine could possibly do well!! no way no how!!"truly pathetic. you faggots need a reality check.
>>748215235>Nolan's OdysseyYou mean that movie that flopped and no one is talking about it anymore?
Zoomies that say "if you want to watch porn, just watch porn" - why aren't you saying "if you want to watch movies, just watch movies" with this game?It's just a movie, it's not even really interactive, DSP proved it could be played without user input. (played as in playing a video in this context)
>>748211835OH MY GOD IT SOLD!so what...Sales don't mean fucking jack shit, its the lasting power it has.Everybody can buy a fucking pile of shit game, and then twitter/twitch is nothing but "oh god this game sucks watch me not play it and it play itself" all day every day.Big fucking deal about it selling well.
>>748215526Because they don't play it at all. They just want you to play that shit so you start to hate your hobby. That's why they only have fake sales numbers as an argument why ppl should play it.
>>748215235Quite an apt comparison, both flops that have shills and bots that are trying to gaslight people into thinking they were successful
>>748215401>floppedbut it didn't. why are you being so disengenuous?>no one is talking about it anymorenobody talks about any movie anymore after a month or two. all of modern society has ADHD>>748215627>shills and bots that are trying to gaslight peopleit's funny how this is constantly said but nobody ever has any proof, ever. truly schizo shit.
>>748215627>>748215235Odyssey actually made bank though, $1.68billion on $250m budget and $150m marketing, that's just cinmea too, streaming and home market will bring in even more.Videogames are very front loaded, you make most of the money in the first month, they need to make ~4million more sales before the end of october or it's very unlikely they'll hit the 7m needed to break even.If they were truly comparable, Wolverine would have sold through 12 million in just preorders
>>748211835DS2 did similar and Sony took Kojima behind the shed.
>>748211835Only?
>>748211835Spiderman 2 sold 2.5M in 24 hours, so why is 1.9M in 3 days supposed to be impressive?
>>748211835This is literally not real due to the 1.9 million numbers coming from non-official sources that base off their data on telemetry, on active users and etc.They are forgetting about stuff like canceled pre-orders.In contrast Spider-Man 2 sold 2.5 million in its first 24 hours just due to brand power and good faith from the people who bought it.Really hoping Wolverine doesn't get to 6 million at the end of the year, so that Disney can cancel the exclusivity deal with Sony on X-Men and then get the IP go multi-platform so that other devs can do X-Men games and produce an actual banger.Shame that Sony still has that exclusivity deal with Spider-Man to 2030. I want more stuff like Web of Shadows, Shattered Dimensions or the old Ultimate Spider-Man.
LARGEST ACCELERATION SELLING TUESDAY RELEASE GAME THAT RHYMES WITH TANGERINE ON PS5 IN 2026CHUDS ARE SEETHING
If the sales numbers were good Sony would have come out already with the official amount to brag about it. Spiderman 2 hit 18 million copies this year and even reddit has a hard time giving that game any praise outside traversal. Combat is hate it or love it compared to 1.
>>748215850Is that why nobody talks about that movie, these companies don't care anymore, they'll lie and just say they made a morbillion dollars on opening week because we can't check, such an astroturfed movie like that is artificially pushed on the population to justify more retarded shit in movies
>>748211835>This sold more than Blood of DawnwalkerI actually fucking hate gamers so much it's unreal. You "people" deserve the slop you buy.
>>748215827It did flopped.>no one is talking about moviesPeople still analyze shit done in the 70s meanwhile your epic movie is nowhere to be seen month after a fucking release.At least try you faggot.
>>748211835This is an unsubstantiated rumor
Currently blasting off
>>748216391Dawnwalker is already earning money. Get back to me when vulvarine does
>>748211835is this game good or is it another snooze-fest movie game with yellow paint ?
Even if it manages to sell 4 million that's still just breaking even. Sony needs a success.
>>748216568I guarantee there's no yellow paint
>>74821225034 milliom
>>748211835Are people angry at this game because you can't die in a driving sequence or something? Looks like typical AAA as far as I'm concerned, are the cattle waking up to how shit the games they play are?
>>748211835>>>748212315>>They achieved 1.9 million in 3 days>this includes pre-orders and will be 50% of the total lifetime salesGrim
>>748216671That is likely not counting in Marvels % takeYou will know sales are really looking bad if a PC version is released quicklyThen will become marvel% and gaben tax taken off every sale
>>748216814Yes, even the journos got angry at the permanently enabled batman sense, and the "hidden" collectibles either emitting a glow that you can see across the entire map or having their own scent trail
>>748211835It flopped [spiritually]
>>7482166714 million isn't anywhere near breaking even. This is a LICENSED game which has a higher than normal proportion of PHYSICAL buyers because of the IP, the first party status, and the current trend of supporting physical20% marvel cut30% retailer cut0 official sales number
>>748216859>"hidden" collectibles either emitting a glow that you can see across the entire map or having their own scent trailThat's hilariousI look forward to just how shit AAA can get before the cattle stops consooming
>>748216814People are angry because it's the same shit we've been playing since the 360/PS3 days with a shiny coat of paint, ugly characters and a "deep and mature" story. It's $300m budget and 5 years of dev time have done nothing new or exciting to move the genre forward. It's become a target because it's emblematic of the fatigue gamers feel towards the AAA game industry never using the money they throw at games to do anything new or innovative and instead just throwing money into a giant stagnant swamp of played out ideas and tired gameplay mechanics.
>>748212157>Most people in this world are retarded.Except for this anon here because he's special
I knew it wouldn't flop. Wolverrine is nearly as popular as Spider-Man and normiegroids love this kind of game. It doesn't matter how mediocre it actually is.
>>748216814Angry, I see people having a blast with this game, not by playing it tho lmao
>>748216456your argument is shit, dude. The Odyssey will be talked about years from now. everybody just saw it so there's nothing new to say about it. it's the first movie shot entirely in IMAX so it is already historic. also, it didn't flop. you can keep saying it over and over again in a padded cell with your arms strapped, doesn't make it any less true lmfao
>>748217057>people will talk about Odyssey because of...... the aspect ratioProved his point, good job
>>748211889Remember that "break even" is by no stretch of the imagination good enough as all the higher ups will wonder why the fuck they wasted five years on a game that made them no money at all.
>the desperation of the wokiesIf it were doing fine, why would you need to janny for it?
>>748212250About 3 fiddy and a quarter of an half
>>748216973>I knew it wouldn't flopIt needs to sell around 10 million copies to even start being considered a real success. 1.9 copies in 3 days means nothing. There's still a 95% chance it's going to be a big flop.Friendly reminder that their first Spider-Man game which was made on a $90 million budget sold TWICE that amount in its first 3 days.
>>748217057>The Odyssey will be talked about years from nownta but nobody even talks about it anymore and its only been 2 months lmaocompare that to the batman trilogy, interstellar, dunkirk, oppenheimer, inception...
we will never get a part 2 where Wolverine teams up with Deadpool, Psylocke and Magneto to fight Apocalypse, will we?
>>748217057>The Odyssey will be talked about years from nowPeople literally stopped talking about it after 1-2 weeks, what the fuck are you on about?
>>748217057> The Odyssey will be talked about years from nowI literally haven’t seen one person talk about Odyssey
>>748217253And in years it will go down as one of the classics. Just like Tenet, the most pop-culture influencing movie in history.
>>748217313Remember when everyone was supposed to start liking Star Wars sequels like it happened with prequels? Turns out something happening to one product doesn’t magically mean it will happen to another
>>748217365It was a joke fren, literally no one has discussed Tenet after 2021 or so
>>748211835Source?
>>748217365the prequels are still awful garbage and the sequels being such non-entities doesn't change that
>>748211835>supposedly Marvel expects at least 6 Million sales, otherwise they pull out of the Sony deal>$300m budget>most people who buy full price will buy it in the first few days1.9 million copies is a flop
>>748211835With enough marketing, you too can sell rancid liquid shit.And at the end of the day it's just rancid liquid shit, with good marketing and sold well.
>>748212813And that's still excluding the opportunity costs of having Insomniac waste time on a game that barely made it's money back (in case it actually breaks even)
>>748211835Can they prove these numbers or are we suppose to just trust the reports?
>>748217057>The Odyssey will be talked about years from now.Its not even talked about what like a month after release? Dont kid yourself.
>>748217112that's pointing out one historic aspect of it. the film itself stands on its own>>748217208>>748217253>>748217298why are rightoids so delusional?>>748217676>everything that goes against my beliefs is fake! it's not real!!go suck your thumb in the corner, baby
>>748217057>it's the first movie shot entirely in IMAX so it is already historicThere are people who truly believe that shit.
>>748217906>rightoidsfacts dont care about your culture war psychosis
>>748211835Nice numbers, buddyCan you back them up with a source?
>>748211835/v/... we gotta take another L, I guess.
>>748217925historic doesnt mean important or memorable, it'll just be a footnote in some cinemafags school book
>/v/ makes fun of Sony movie slop for years>trannies invade>/v/ defends literal Sony movie slopReally jogs the nog.
Games make most of their sales in the first few days and if it was doing exceptionally well insomniac would've done a brag post about the fact
>>748211889From my rough estimations, taking 305 million budget (it's more with advertising), a 70$ price tag (it's more outside the US) and removing a 35% store cut, for the sake of accounting as if they were physical sales, it'd need around 6.7 million copies sold to break even and recoup costs. Obviously in the real world around 60% of sales will be digital, so no 35% retailer cut and no physical costs, and you have to take countries outside the US where they charge more money at conversion rates than in US dollars because fuck them.
>>748218075not even that, IMAX is completely overhyped by Nolan fanboys. They say shit like "most detailed camera ever", but at the end of the day it's pretty much just more screenWhich is nice, but nothing groundbreaking
>>748218238Also don't forget that sales outside US/Can/Aus/Western EU are -70% price due to regional pricing.
>>748218238dont forget that marvel takes 20% cut
>>748218380I thought it was 40%. And they need to sell at least 6 million to keep the damn license, as well.
>>748218295It's the most detailed film camera for moving pictures.It's not more detailed than digitalIt's not more detailed than film cameras for stillsIt's really a load of codswallop - when IMAX first started it was the only moving picture camera with fine enough detail toreally take advantage of the size of the screen, but that's not been true for 20 years.
>>748211835That is a verified flop on a 300m budget.
>>748218238Marvel also takes a 30% cut of all sales. Insomniac is fucked on this one
>>748212540Honestly at this point putting the blame on normies just feels like a false flag. I know it's pretty ancidotal but I don't know a single normie that was even remotely excited for this game. The only person I know who bought it is a literal sony fsn boy who has always had a baffeling bad taste in media in genral.
>>748218380It actually depends on how the copy was sold, it varies from 20% to 50% of the whole bundle
>>748217949then tell me, what are your reasons for thinking The Odyssey is a bad film?
>urinalists just spamming made up numbers from a failed techbro cryptonigger site >>748212813It's worse.Disney takes half of that.
>>748218507Unless they bundle it so it sells the 6 million copies needed and live with disney eating 50%.
>>748218672point wasnt that its bad, point was that nobody will talk about it in the future as indeed they already dont mere months after releasetry to keep up schizophrenic retard
>>748212315>7 million sales needed in the first YEAR.Monster Hunter Wilds sold 8 million copies in the first 3 days. Now it's somewhere around 12 million copies sold total after a year and a half. Sales can taper off harder than you'd think.
>>748211835Retard-kun, if they kept up this trajectory (which they wont because thats not how sales work) it would take them 474 days JUST to break even (300m budget). Thats a flop.
>>748216215What the fuck am I looking at
>>7482118896 million roughly. But that’s misleading. Any form of investment is always being compared to the scenario where you simply leave your money in the bank gaining basic interest in the process. So it should achieve something like 7-8 million to be considered OK investment. Sales are highest during the first week and that’s also where the preorders are calculated.They won’t reach 7 million sold copies even in one year.
>>748211835>Boss KG, another litteral who the fuck cares news outlet made to fluff up a failing game.raise your hand if you ever heard of Boss KG before OP's FIPO. be honest, why should we care about the opinions of ''Boss KG''? what has ''Boss KG'' ever done outside of being a media setpiece to create false consensus around a flop and who will disband the second its existence as a vulvarine promotion outlet is no longer required?
>still coping with made up numbers>>748212540>If you don't like AAA games, don't play them. They're not made for crusty 30 year oldsWho is this on the webm then?
>>748216814It's simply an unfinished buggy game on top of also being a dog shit game for babies There are literal cardboard cutout trees, lava pngs
>>748211835I don't think people understand how expensive this game was to make, plus the copyright owner gets a large cut of the sale too.It's impossible for this game to even break even.
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>>748211835Better man bros, are we winning?
>>748211835https://www.ign.com/articles/final-fantasy-16-sold-3-million-copies-during-launch-weekFF16 did 3mil in a week and was considered a flop... i wonder how much Vulvarine would do
>>748218238>Muh 67% digitalInsomniacs own leaked data says digital only makes up around 30% of their sales.
>>748216814People are not 100% angry at the game specifically, some are using it as a way to show their anger at Sony after some of their decisions on top of the game being a buggy mess, that was clearly released too damn early with all the complaints people had with the games' handholding.Basically it got caught in a bit of a crossfire.
>>748211927Doesn't include marketing BTW
>>748212074does refunds/cancelled preorders still count as sales because i want to bet they do include them...
>>748218672Let's see>the rap section>modern slangs and terms (and don't give me the "this is how they would speak today" excuse because BC is not today)>awful excuses for not using an orchestral soundtrack (look up the etymology of orchestra btw) and yet uses electronic sounds in the same soundtrack>dry humor>hates the fantastical elements of the original>complete character assassination of Odysseus (he doesn't actually wanna go back home lmao wtf)>misinterpretation of the original with muh zeus' law>changed suitors from "kids left behind who grew up without a father figure" to draft dodgers because we gotta appeal to the boomer crowd >multiple instances of not arrogance or hubris, but sheer stupidity (i.e.: shooting the cyclops after everyone was already out)>horrid action scenes>everyone is putting zero effort into their performance besides Robert Pattinson who realized how dumb the script is and just hammed it up, bless his soul>"muh age of bronze is ending" when that was never a thing in the original and is presented as if it is being told straight to the audience and not the characters within the movie>devoid of any meaningful subtext>ends in the most boomer pleasing way instead of sticking to the end of the original tale>having more sky to see in the picture does not fix any of these issuesIt is a terrible adaptation and a bad standalone story
>>748211835The first Spider-Man sold 3m in 3 days and the sequel did 2.5m in its first day. Wolverine's not going to flop, but it's definitely not doing as well as they'd hoped.
This game is such a flop it literally would have been more profitable for Sony to send all the insomniac employees into the coal mines for all the years they worked on the game instead.
>>74821626018 million my ass. If that was even remotely true, there would have been dlc.
>>748219173Probably but if it was including those, the contract would have Sony lose money every time it happened
>>748219173They do for zony. They dishonestly include them in their fabricated PS2 sales world record. They also include replacements for faulty units as a sale
>>748218883The new RE movie
>>748217057>The Odyssey will be talked about years from now.I honestly didn't think anything could leave less of a cultural footprint than Avatar, but here we are. Maybe you're being literal and everyone's bottling up their thoughts for the future because holy shit, it's like it never even happened.
>>748211835/v/ can't accept that they are a vocal minority and that for every "woke" game they insist will fail there are just as many "woke" games if not more that succeed
>>748219286It's not like zony isn't used to doing shit that loses them money if it makes them look better than they really are. Their hubris and (unwarranted) pride is killing them.>Nearly 4 billion on Bungie>All they got out of them was an extraction shooter that died in a month
>>748219450Well, let's wait for the sequel then.
>>748211927>>$300m+ budgetNice fake news faggot where is the sources of this claims
wow it must be a real good game then. can't wait to play it (i'm never playing that faggot shit)
>>748219597https://ixbt.games/en/news/2026/09/14/435643-marvels-wolverine-stala-vtoroi-samoi-dorogoi-igroi-insomniac-games-insaider.htmltook two seconds to find
>>748218238SIX SEVEN :DDD
>>748216391BotD sold half as much in the same 3 days but with 1/10th of the development cost. I'd say they are winning.
>>748219039>VulvarineThats a good one.
>>748211835sony makes these games at a huge loss, as a flagship game for prestige and a reason to buy a playstation.the game is shit and is being mocked though, so not only did it lose them a ton of money but it adds no prestige, it's a total loss across the board
no hard numbersthe studio itself is not even bragging
>>748219186>>changed suitors from "kids left behind who grew up without a father figure" to draft dodgers because we gotta appeal to the boomer crowdOh god they actually did that?
>>748219597Insomniac themselvesThis was before delays and changing directors mind you
>>748220104Yes, it's a relevant plot point even because that's how Elliot Page (formerly Ellen) got sent in Robert Pattinson's place
>>748219450Only woke games that have any semblence of success are the one that have non woke roots.And even then they flop.
>>748220146I like desperate flip flopping on draft dodgers hollywood has to do now that they kinda sorta can try and use that insult against Trump.>Ellitot Page (formerly Ellen )Its still Ellen, double mastectomy doesnt make a man.
>>748220114>total profit>except the cut disney gets >which is bigger on physical>and is AT LEAST 35% on bundles which makes most of the salesyeah profit lol
>>748211835>$1.9
>>748211835Has it hit anymore milestones? Ones that actually show it generated a profits?
>>748211835>1.9 millions according to a meme shill source that constantly overestimates sells>300 millions bucks budget not counting marketing>On a fucking Wolverine game, an IP that hadn't seen a game in 17 yearsYeah that's a complete failure, it would need to sell 4 or 5 times that "estimated" amount to break even
>>748211835that's only $133 million. it cost around 500 million with marketing included. it flopped.
>>748221609I think what's more interesting is that insomniac has not yet posted about its sales yet like they did with their other games.Which also goes against Wolverine making that much money so quick.
>>748216951In the next few years, we'll get a game with a "hidden collectibles" menu where every single item is the meme achievement from cookie clicker where all you have to do is click the achievement to earn it.
>>748221792Which is doubly sus because they are getting roasted all over the place, they desperately need a "win" to shut the critics up and calm the shareholders.So if these sales are good there is zero or even negative reasons to keep them silent.
Why isn't Sony posting the official numbers? Surely it sold at least a million with all that shilling
>>748211856Fpbp
b-blast havers...
Why not wait till it was 2 mill even?
>>748211835ff16 sold 3 mil and it flopped...and this was the more expensive game i thinkthese are death stranding numbers
>>748219173The untrustworthy third party analysis for sales is based off preorder rankings if I remember correctly. So yes refunds and such things would not be counted for it.
>>748222017Announcing a million sold but then possibly never announcing 2 million sold would look really bad on a game they need to sell 6 million copies of.
>>748211835>no official numbers
>>748211835There gonna need to sell like 10 million copies to make back the 300 million budget and I assume another 300 million on the astroturfed ad campaign that put the shit everywhere
>>748216568There's blue farts and white paint.
>>748223862>blue farts*excited sniff* Mystique!
>1.9 millions in 3 days>sony and insomniac didn't brag about itkek
>>748219597They spent a huge chunk of the budget visiting brothels as travel costs
>>748211835At this rate, it might break even by 2028 :D
>>748224993chuds lost AGAIN
>>748223291XVI didn’t flop, it had like a ~90 mil budgetSE were just retards thinking itd be Elden RingWolverine though… sold worse and cost more so…
>>748211835According to an untrustworthy third party. PlayStation and Insomniac haven’t posted anything.
>>748224740Oh come the fuck on.
>caring about sales numbers >caring what /v/ thinksYou guys couldn’t be more blatant with the shilling if you tried.
>>748225229>anayltics
>>748212098Ive noticed that when leftoids buy a game because the other side doesnt like it its usually a bad game like wolverine or that lesbian knight game and then rightoids buy a game because the other side doesnt like it its usually mid to at least decent games like stellar blade or that Harry potter game.
>>748218632>normie
>>748218238>6.7 million copies
>>748211927A big chunk was probably dedicated to the original build that got leaked. They cut so much out of this game to make it appeal to as many people as possible, and even rewrote the story to make it more like their past games, and all they did was make a complete mess.https://x.com/JustSilxent/status/1738172192230420912https://x.com/DreFromGTA62/status/1737147603400167446
>>748211835Uh yeah it is. Do the math. They need to sell like 8 million copies to break even and breaking even is a flop too.
>>748225635>and breaking even is a flop tooNow this is the cope you love to see
>>748225670Not the guy you were talking to, but breaking even is terrible. No profit, no point.
>>748212098>THIS JUST IN MARVEL'S VULVERINE SKINTS PAST 3.8 MILLION SALES IN JUST 4 DAYS
>>748218238It’s already going on sale in countries outside of the US.
>>748211835>I will post the made up number for a 4 day in a row!!!!!!!!!!
>>748211835> $1.9 million copiesso this is the IQ of the targeted audience? lmaodumb saar
>>748218238The royalties are rough.
>>748225229>aLIEnea ANALytics.
>>748225670It's the literal definitionYou don't sell a product to recoup the costs of making it you stupid fucking animal
>>748225670Okay, I have to ask, where do you think the money to make this game came from? Because I'd rather think you're just extremely young and ignorant rather than this retarded.
>>748212813The publisher typically takes 30%, and distributors and retailers take up to 15% depending on the marketplace. Sony is the publisher, so it's not really that relevant in this case, but still.In Wolverine's case, there are also licensing cuts. Marvel (Disney) takes a piece of the pie as well. The game's first party, and the split with Disney is pretty advantageous for Sony, provided they meet their agreed-upon sales.For physical copies, the revenue boils down to ~ $40 per copy.For digital copies, the revenue boils down to close to ~ $60 per copy.They've made ~100 million net, even if we are being generous with the data and their claims, so it's looking pretty grim.Even Sony, with its own projections, pretty much spelled out that the game would need to sell 7.8 million copies to break even, assuming marketing costs are bundled into the $305 budget.
>>748214962Don't forget, physical sales only see a 20% return.
>>748211835Those numbers are made up by some random "analyst". Those numbers are far below what the game needs to sell. Making that game was very expensive and Marvel wants their cut as well.
>>748226004>where do you think the money to make this game came from?From Sony's infinite movie money
Is it still stuck at 1.9 million?
>>748226030Its over for sonycels.
Look at how bare bones and bland this move set is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6XYnsMfK30
>>748226205Convenient.
>>748226205Isn't that a GAMERGATE stance?
>>748226086Nah, Sony's gaming division is only dealing in peanuts compared to the rest of the company.
>>748211835
>>748211835Lets face it. It can sell 20 million copies and chuds will still insist it flopped some way. Building your own reality where you are always right has been the conservative modus operandi since at least the 60's.
>>748226136I'm never gonna play this game but the other main problem besides the bland move set is how long the cooldowns are, from what I understand. So not like Bam Ham or even Spiderman combat where you'd be spamming special moves and gadgets all day, instead you can maybe do each move once per encounter
>>748225670>its not a failure to get as much money as you investedAh yes the vibe economics of a gaming far left journo
>>748226205Why should I buy the game to judge for myself if I don’t like how the game looks? It’s Insomniac’s job to make the game look appealing, and something I’d want to buy, and they have failed at that.
>>748225389There are no decent Harry Potter games, all of them have a quirk or something that makes them imperfect.
>>748226205>snoyggers are betraying their masters.
>>748226519Having something that makes them "imperfect" does not automatically mean they aren't even decent. To become worse than middling a game needs to have a lot more than one quirk
>>748226387The only way to shorten the cooldown is by getting the associated upgrades that either give you more uses or make the cooldown time shorter if you do a specific action with that ability, or by getting the Adaptations that shorten cooldown abilities.
>>748226519>There are no decent Harry Potter gamesfirst two book adaptation games on PC
>>748211835>Using an unreliable third party analystIf that was true, Sony and Insomniac would be bragging about it just like they did with Spider-Man.
>>748226519How does having a few quirks exclude them from being decent?
>>748226632??????? the very first HP video game was a tie-in to the first movie
>>748226632Just thinking of the soundtrack makes me want to cry.
>>748225670>breaking> not a flopYou're the one coping
>>748226584>Having something that makes them "imperfect" does not automatically mean they aren't even decent.I disagree, but whatever. Decent implies that something is ready to be seen. And from where I'm standing, every harry potter going as far back is the playstation has had issues in one way or another. And in my opinion were released in an indecent state.
>>748226770I don't care that you disagree, you're grossly misusing either the term "decent" or "imperfect"Imperfect means not perfect, so anything up to a 9.5/10
>>748226306Yes. Chuds always abandon their principles the second they become inconvinient.
I just played wolverine origins and for the looks of it ps5r wokeverine is pretty much the same combos, the same game mechanics and insomniac even copied the visual damage. did those motherfuckers just copied activision or what?
>>748211835cite your source faggot
>>748226306No and it never was.>implying there is anything like unified GG stanceButthurt troon lol
>>748226856Give it to me straight: How many annoying block pushing puzzles does it have? I don't wanna replay it because I remember the game being 80% that
>>748211835all prearranged sales deals with companies
>>748211835>>$1.9 million copies in 3 days>according to an estimate by a third party a third party, without direct sources, and with a poor track record Maybe it has sold 2M copies. Maybe it has sold way more. And maybe it has sold way less. This 1.9M number is all but fucking useless and that it is being reported on so widely is honestly just embarrassing. But the media will always report on what is easy and makes for easy clips. Honestly. If there wasn't some shitty analyst making an estimate like this, the media would probably just make up rumours and report those instead.
>>748226856They did the same with Spiderman. Took the best parts from previous Spiderman games and just copied them.
>>748225670>actually, you don't need to see a dollar in profit for it to be a successretards like you are why things suck.
>>748225785Here in pandereta country I've checked and at Amazon it's 68.99€ and in media markt its 70.99€, I personally wouldn't qualify this as trying to move stock and more the usual discounts over MSRP, most stores always do a 10€ discount on release, that's how I got most of my switch games physical.
What are you retards actually arguing about itt and what do you have to gain from it?
>>748226856they scrapped a bunch of "craft the throwing knife and chuck it at the enemy" stuff, re-tooled the game god knows how many times, i would not be surprised in the slightest if it turned out the final product had a lot of rushed shit copied from other games
>>748226856Not even close compare this >>748226136 to this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHTGPdpeDTQ&t=160s
>>748217313Holy fuck I forgot Tenet existed lmao fuck you for making me remember
>>748226634And these 3rd party numbers are even more dubious because you know Sony and Insomniac would be itching to brag about numbers to shut all the critics up and rub it in their faces.
>>748227027reading a thread is tough work >:(
>>748226008From what I can tell, the $305m doesn't include marketing. And since publishers of AAA typically spend on marketing roughly 75-100% of the amount of the production budget, Wolverine's actual cost is almost certainly well north of $500m.Fine for Spider-Man games that sell 18m copies. For Wolverine? They're fucked.
>>748211856Blasthavers are always silent on this sort of stuff. Just like how with movies a box office "flop" is anything that didn't make more money than it cost to produce during its theater release, if a game sells 2 million copies but needed 6 or 7 million to break even, it's considered a business failure
>>748225785
>>748211835Do you have an official source to back that up?
>>748227109>reading a thread full of retards debating with advertisersAgain what are you ACTUALLY trying to argue and what is it going to accomplish?
>>748220189Baldur's Gate 3 has non-woke roots?
I cannot believe companies got butthurt about people laughing at them for using yellow paint in video games and they decided the right move was to change the color
>>748227453Yes?Two giant acclaimed successful RPG's from a golden era of PC gaming and fucking decades of established tabletop lore, fanbase and clout.
>>748226927if you count just moving a block as a puzzle then not much, I think I got to the part when you kill the sniper fag, then I got bored and went back to bg3
>>748211835That's fewer copies than Expedition 33 which cost $10,000,000
>>748227447Tell us all about the very productive work you've been doing in other /v/ threads.
>>748227447>reading a thread full of retards debating with advertiserswow, it's almost like you already made up your mind.
>>748211835McDonald's sells well too. I'm not a fucking suit so I don't give a shit about these numbers. Glad you have more shit to look forward to in the future.
>>748211835>trust me bro
>>748227664McDonald's has great quality
>>748227541>>748227649>can’t answer a simple question
>>748225545
>all these phoneposting shills
>>748225670Are you familiar with the concept of opportunity cost?
>>748227770>he said, dodging the answer in the form of a question
>>748227253Torille
>>748211835Fake data
>>748227790I’m shitting on the game for being bad when they were on the right track to make a decent game.
>>748227845>still can’t answer Okay marketer-kun
>>748220189Holy cope
>>748228163Holy cope.
>>748227770READ NIGGA, READ
>>748228163Feel free to prove me wrong, son.Everytime you release og woke game it gets sub 1k players and then you end up with a game that 2 weeks later has a playerbase lower than 30 year old DOS titles on Steam.Only woke shit that enjoyed some success is something that has previous titles/setting to lean against.
>>748228330I already proved you wrong
>desperate bait attempt from some internlol
>>748211835Weird how they advertise the game with the character having the helmet on, i guess the ftm milkface wouldn't sell
Game's so bad that make a wish drags cena out of retirement to visit you if you get the platinum
>>748228361Tell him! Marathon has at least 2k daily players!
>>748228540What's woke about Marathon?
>>748228587without any hesitation.
>7482285872/10 b8 you dont event get a (u)
Game's so bad the ET cartridges started to vote far right to prevent all the wolverine discs from coming to their landfill
>>748226519>he didn't FLIPENDOAll versions of HP2 and 3 are great btw.
>>748228540And thats more than Half Life 2 itself!!
>>748228675Meant for >>748228587
>>748228879lol pathetic
>>748227040It’s insane how the PS5 game is worse than the one that’s approaching 20 years old.
Sabertooth fight on the hardest difficulty.https://x.com/nib95_/status/2102323632022118886
>>748229646Is it really? Pretty much every new game on PS5 is worse then something from previous generations.
Game's so bad disney is planning to rebrand it into a John Carter movie tie in.
>>748217365HAL9000 edits of the prequels are downright good
>>748229715Is BRUTAL on the same level as BLAST
>>748230380Yes.
>>748230380It's VISCERAL HEART-PUMPING ACTION
PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIIIGHT
>>74821909870% physical sales? But Sony said so few people were buying physical that they're phasing it out.
Why did it take a week for them to say that?Why wouldn't they wait for a clean 2 million?
>>748231675Stop believing corporation speak blindly. Sony’s own numbers show that for games that have physical releases, physical is overwhelmingly dominant over digital sales. Sony obfuscates that number though with counting DLC and digital in game purchases though.
I love how every time a game is getting dunked on, they pull these numbers right out of their asses to claim it's totally a success.
>>748211835Those are amazing numbers. Only 4 million more sales at full price to break even.
If the game was truly profitable, they would surely make an official Twitter post to own the racist glup shittos epic style there, right?
>>748233102While you are right, I think you fundamentally misunderstood the glup shitto meme
>>748231738Both PlayStation and Insomniac haven’t said anything about the sales.
>>748227784What the fuck do you mean there used to be wall combos and fist combos?
>>748211835That's pretty fucking bad.
>>748233192I view e-celebs as irl glup shittos
>>748229715I see he has the same healing ability that Wolverine has, but they should’ve gone further with it when it came to making Sabertooth the dark mirror/rival archetype. I think X-Men Origins Wolverine did it perfectly by basically making Sabertooth into Vergil, and giving him all the same abilities Wolverine had.
>>748211835I want it to die because fuck Insomniac for basically everything they've done since the first Spider-Man.
>>748215235>Nolan's OdysseyYou're going to desperately cling to that like a barnacle on a shit-stained rock, and pretend like that somehow cancels out the dozens of other woke flops, aren't you.
>>7482118351.9 in 3 days for a $300M first-party Playstation Wolverine game is really nothing to write home about.
for a AAA game it's garbage
>>748218672Come on fag, answer to him >>748219186
>>748215235>$125M marketing-budgeted nolan's peplum isn't a flopWow, so surprising.
>>748234360We don't even know the budget.
>>748211835>spent $300 million to make $110 millionah yes, the donald trump approach to business
>/v/ incels taking L after Lhehe
>>748219597>this claimsIt's "these claims," you stupid spic.
>>748234510$305M as of 2021
>>748212761>>coke and whores 90m*japanese coke and whores >>748224740
>>748211835Genuinely how did they use so much budget on this game
>>748232706It sold 2 Million, why is that so hard to believe? 3 million within the first week is easy. 100 PS5 users bought 4 million copies of wolverine
>>748235492WhereAreThePlayersElden ring had 2.1million players on launch, WHERE ARE THE VOLVERINE PLAYERS
>>748235468Serious answer, the game restarted development in 2023. The finished product is 3 years of rushed development
>>748235492Proof. Now.
>>748235468I assume the actual development cost is around 10-15 million The rest went to fund an all-expense paid adult daycare office in California, licensing, unnecessary multi layered management, all-important multi year SAAS solutions (software was never a product, chud) and miscellaneous corporate expenses like private jet flights and so forth
>>748236005>Needing proof that 5 million people bought wolverine Just use your brain. 6 million sold is 6% of the player base, a small number
>>748212098You sure showed me. In fact, if you really want to own the fuck out of me you should go out and buy another 10 copies. I'd be so wrecked if you did that.
>>748235492It's pretty sad that the angry newniggers didn't get this joke
>>748236378Post proof.
>>748236378Thanks Rabbi for giving us the official numbers
>>748211835>$1.9 million copies in 3 daysThat's counting all the pre-order copies registered as cashed in on day one of general release.Wolverine actually sold shit-all.
>>748211835Yeah it sold so well and everyone likes it so much that everyone is doing a NG+ playthrough and the game is NOT coming to PC
Ah yes. BOSS KG. a well established world famous gaming news site
>>748225670yes, its a massive flopsinking it into a mutual fund could've turned up 100mil profit in five years
>>748224740For a game where you run past them? Just fucking lol
>>748224740Remember the good old days when a big studio wanted to make a level based in another country, so they would just call in like 2-3 expert of the topic and maybe fly out 2 guys with cameras to get shots of reference material if it was based on a real location.
>>748211835reminder that marvel gets like 20% of every sale at minimum
>>748211835Shit games don't sell after the first week
>>748219660>ixbtбля, нe нaдo...
>>748216945>4 million isn't anywhere near breaking even. This is a LICENSED game which has a higher than normal proportion of PHYSICAL buyers because of the IP, the first party status, and the current trend of supporting physical>20% marvel cut>30% retailer cut>0 official sales numberYeah I think people are underestimating just how much these obscenely expensive AAA games need to sell. They can't keep upping the budget into the $300-400million range and then just sell what would be good for a 7th gen game.
>>748236310I mean we know Bungie had shit like cooking classes and sewing classes for “team building and mental health”.
>>748211835You guys did this with AC:Shadows and Veilguard too.
>>748217250There’s supposed to be an X-Men trilogy.
>>748235468Salary. Their studios are located in places where salary is high, and since they're also incompetent and slow, Sony's money gets sucked dry. Which is a good thing. The slower these guys take to ship out a game, the better it is for us because Sony still has to have them on payroll despite having nothing to show for it.
>>748238829>3,426 people worked on this game
>>748238825After those "numbers"? Nah man...
>>748211835It was made for a very specific audience.>The audience that fights tooth and nail to insist "chuds" are the problem.>The audience that doesn't really care for the source material.>The audience that denies "enshittification" and makes everything political.>The audience ITT still defending bad decisions.There was an opportunity to support this game, and it didn't even break even. This is because of a profound truth:>Shit games don't sell.It doesn't matter your "side" or your political ideology. It didn't matter if this had the backing of a small indie company or a mega corporation backed by SBI. Small budget or large. Force the hand of the industry to Start making good games again, Hire talent, and to Stop the performative nonsense. These sales reflect that pushback.
>>748238014Nah this has been the norm for a while, directors will often push for it if the company can afford it. Game Freak did this when they were working on Diamond and Pearl for example, it's a really good excuse for a free trip
>>748239202It was supposed to be for everyone. That’s why there are so many accessibility options and censorship options, parts that basically play themselves, and the simplest combat imaginable that only gives you a decent challenge if you play on the hardest possible difficulty. The problem is that when you make a game for everyone, it ends up being for no one.
>>748239467I really enjoy that the journos are complaining about all the baby shit that we've been annoyed by for like 15 years by now>white paint everywhere (this has been in literally every AAA game)>only one way to go during Uncharted climbing "challenges" (this has been in literally every AAA game)>Batman detective vision instead of natural clues where to go (this has been in literally every AAA game)But they made the stink vision permanent instead of activatable with a button and THAT'S what suddenly made every journo who can barely even play vidya realize that accessibility options are made by retarded DEI hires to please no one
Sabertooth was here
>>748239697There's also how it's not just linear but aggressively so.Random explosions warning and then killing you if you stray off the path. But it only shows a scrapped together way of hiding the big levels with details and collision outside of where you're intended to go. They had big areas, cut them down to zones you can't get lost in and kept in guidance because they are still very accessible and the levels break if you ignore it.Hell the levels even break if you ignore enemies and skip fights. You just get invisible walls to prevent returning but the next section doesn't load until enemies are dead so you just get stuck at a door it refuses to interact with.You either play the game exactly as intended or the whole thing break. Real AAA quality.
>>748239697I will be honest I think they are just dunking on this game as a way to show their frustration with Sony without saying they are frustrated at Sony in some roundabout way.
>>748240091>Random explosions warning and then killing you if you stray off the pathThis is literally in TLOU, IIRC it was a part right at the start where you carry your wife or some shit and if you run down the wrong street a zombie kills you in a cutscene
>>748238984>this linear shit 10hrs horseshit needed almost 3.5k people>RDR2 had 1.6kToo many cook do really spoil the broth..
>>748240194>wife or some shitDaughter but essentially the same. They make a video game because the standards for a story seem lower but they shun what makes the medium potentially good for telling stories, instead opting for "play it right or you're starting over.
>>748238984This is an astronomical number of people doing awful work for the last 5 years.
>>748211927They'd only need to sell 4.72milion copies to break even. They were almost halfway there in only 3 days. I'm pretty sure they're gonna be fine, anon. Eat your glue and calm down.
Gamers have spoken, we want even more yellow paint
>>748240194To be fair that was cinematic intro thats supposed to be linear.Not that the game is any more open than this..
>>748240128>I think they are just dunking on this game as a way to show their frustration with Sony without saying they are frustrated at Sony in some roundabout way.Shit, I'll kick open Pandora's box right now. I'm frustrated and fed up with:>Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Steam, Translators, The Hardware Market, Censorship, and (((payment processors))).Anything not explicitly listed is probably a subset of a category mentioned. If every card is laid out, I hope the focus can be put back on the Gaming Industry and its intentional tone deaf behavior. I have no sides because all sides are getting shit. I'm certain a lot of honest Anons feel the same.
>>748240476Are you too stupid to realize that they dont make all 70 dollars a copy?>70 x 4.72 million = almost 300 mil
>>748240823I'm pretty sure some anons do but good luck showing that in /v/ of all places.
me on my way to play wolverine
Why don't the useless, cocksucking nigger mods delete these shitty unsourced rage bait threads. DO YOUR JOB YOU USELESS CUNTS.
>>748241420Gotta Blast!
>>748241643I got your source right here faggot
>>748241739Thanks OP.
>>7482118899 days worth.
the simple fact that insomniac games are usually followed by an official report of sales within a day or two, yet they have not done so for wolverine, is enough to know that this product has not met their sales expectations
>>748242708It's really funny for people working at insomniac. They know their ass is on the line and are sweating bullets waiting for the "congratulations to wolverine" post
>>748211835that was six days ago. whats the number now?
>>7482446372.1M
>>748244637Yotei sold 3.3 million in a month. Wolverine has twice as much reviews, so expect something along the line of 4 million in the first week.
>>748238014They still do that though, the thing is that this is basically:>Business travel >Business travel (Japan)
>>748246395>twice as much reviewsthe level of cope is in the stratosphere.
>>748246395Are you retarded?
>>748211835>$>copiesokay>in 3 dayswasn't it previously 1.9 million copies in 48 hours? lmao
>>748215080Kek. Got me.
dead space sold 1m units in 2008 and that was considered a commercial failure
>>748211884If the sales figure was good, they'd have bragged right away.
>>748246395>the game sold 1.9 million in its first three days, so it should sell more than double that in the four days followingThere isn't a word strong enough for how delusionally retarded this idea is.
>>748249980The data that you're referencing is literally from an ex-crypto shill company that makes up fake numbers lmao
>>748249008>>748211835LMAO
>>748226205>DON'T KNOCK IT 'TIL YOU TRY IT CHUD!This is the kind of argument you make to a toddler refusing to eat his broccoli, not for buying a mediocre-looking $70 game.
>>748212250You mean 2 * (70*0.75 - taxes)
>>748250218>still no word from Insomniac It's so W-over-ine
>>748249980No, you dont get it - this linear single player game that everone bashes in will suddenly gain bajillion sales after everyone saw the entire thing on YT/streams.
>>7482118351.9 million in 3 days4 days later after that... nothing? no announcement or even reaching 3 million copies/players?
So they're barely 1/3rd of the way to being able to keep the Marvel licenseSad
Still not buying it
>>748212315Lets say those 2 million sales are accurate. What comes out in a month or two that is going to drive all the brown normie tards away from everything else?
>>748212315Meanwhile FE FW already made profit and will tyrn infinitely moreprofit than cuckverineLulLmaoAntiwhites at sony lose again
>>748251119I'll be surprised if they don't at least break even, but just breaking even on a high-profile project like this is not going to make shareholders happy.
>>748251119Where's that from?
>>748212479Base budget is absolutely 400mil post delay.The 300mil wasprojected prior to the delay.So with marketing 450-550milConcord5 BAYYYYBEHHHHH
>>748251969>Where's that from?Leaked slide detailing the agreement between Insomniac and MarvelCould be bullshit, I don't know.
>>748212540Post reeks of antiwhitecope and hatred.You lost faggot
>>748211835I'M BLASTIN'
>>748252043That says X-MEN LICENSE, not MARVEL LICENSE.
>>748252204We must be better X-marvels?
>>748251945>I'll be surprised if they don't at least break evenYou shouldn't underestimate the impact negative word of mouth has on sales beyond the launch period. A somewhat recent example would be monster hunter wilds which boasted over 11 million copies sold during launch but has yet to sell another million, 1.5 year after release.
>>748226306Paying money for a game to see if you should pay money for the game is a retard stance
>>748217057>admit there's nothing to discuss about this vapid empty soulless antiwhite movie>thinks by some magic a discussion will just form in a yearLulLmaoAntiwhite cope
>>748217648>and sold wellExcept it hasn't.It needs 7-8mil to break even anon
>>748252043I have some doubts about the veracity of this pic. The small text is all wobbly and smudged which reminds me of aislop artefacts and I don't see any other reason this would look like this.
>>748252362>don't worry y'all, its just incompetence, not ai
>>748211835That same site said they’ve only made $18,000,000 worth of sales since then.https://x.com/JayViperTV/status/2102444898091970625
>>748217906Why are antiwhites so adament to reject reality?Antiwhiteism is over, it's done. Even vagues loathe all the antiwhiteism in movies, tv shows, games, comics, hiring, etc.Trump and Vance berate antiwhiteism regularly now. Even firage is forced to call it out in the UK.The era of antiwhiteism is dead. And praise God for it.Now is the era of White wellbeing
>>748252691>I have some doubts about the veracity of this picYeah I wouldn't put it forth in a court of law or anything, and it would not surprise me if it was fakeBut it's more fun to at least pretend it's real so that we can all laugh at the misfortune of AAA gaming companies getting what's coming to them
>>748252789>James Bond beating Batman and Wolverine ARM YOURSELF BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HERE WILL SAVE YOUTHE ODDS WILL BETRAY YOU AND I WILL REPLACE YOU
>>748211835just 4 million more till it breaks even
>>748252789>Sonyfans have the worst fucking taste imaginable
>>748252352Nah the situation is different. MH is a franchise that actually has people caring about how it plays, and Wilds is just fucking dogshit at its core. It was less negative word of mouth and more like the nu-MH fanbase (chinks+normalfags) actually have standards and rejected the game. Sony movieslop audiences don't have those standards. Wolverine is just as bad as their other moviegames so it being "bad" online does nothing because the dad gamers who buy this slop in droves don't even know it's being trashed online.
>>748252961Not a big surprise. At this point, I'm convinced they mostly buy games to justify having bought a ps5 and feel like they didn't waste their money on the console.
>>748226306>>748226823You're disingenuous retards. "If a game looks interesting to you, do your own research instead of blinding trusting people that are no better than paid marketers" is not the same as "the only way to see if a game is worth your money is to buy it like a good goyim".
>>748218672It's antiwhite pig shit bastardizing the original perfect glorious story.I'd tell you to make your own original shite but antiwhites lack a soul thus have no creative spirit.
>>748252961Clearly they don’t because First Light is actually good, and most Snoys are incredibly disappointed in Wolverine.
>>748218910>who will disband the second its existence as a vulvarine promotion outlet is no longer required?Completely unfair anonThey'll need these cucks to fluff up gta6 as well. Come on
they should have just had mystique as the love interest
>>748253086It’s not just as bad, it’s significantly worse.
>>748225336>anal lickers
>>748252789>they've only sold about 400k copies since fridayThat’s really bad. I’ve also heard that GameStop and other retailers are getting flooded with pre-owned copies.
>>748217057falling for astroturffed trash in 2026 you might want to do an iq test buddy
>>748250676No taxes arent included in the $70. No idea what thebretail cut is but im guessing more than 25% but the majority of their sales is digital which is close to 100% profit so im ok with y(x * .75) being the formula
>>748253478Look man, you don't know how low the standards are for dad gamers. Millions of them bought both Horizon games. They bought every Destiny 2 expansion. Wolverine is rated 4.73 on the Playstation store. They don't give a shit if it's buggy, or if it's generic, or if it controls weird, or if it's worse than other moviegames.
>>748252789Thats because the "3 day" total was actually all shipped to retailers, digital copies, and all preorders up to 3 days after release
So we'll see that Sony congratulations message any day now, right?
>>748253086>the nu-MH fanbase (chinks+normalfags) actually have standardsand rejected the game.I disagree with that. It's a bit contradictory to say the game was rejected, despite selling 11 million copies initially, but saying word of mouth played a lesser role with sales plunging afterward.Those 11M sales are likely the result of normalfags mass buying the game in the first place. (I doubt any old school MH fans could pull those numbers, both due to sheer volume and that not all of them would be on board for what wilds had to offer.) And if normalfags don't have the insight to reject a bad game before they buy it, there is no reason the next batch of normalfags, coming after launch, wouldn't also buy that game while ignoring what other people have to say about it.
>>748254310Nope.
>>748254079Then why is everyone shitting on this game? I’ve yet to see one dad gamer who wasn’t a bot.
Reminder that Insomniac said they’re incredibly proud of the this buggy, boring, and awfully written piece of shit they put out.
>>748254468>everyone Define everyone. Are you just going to bring up social media sites? Twitter? Reddit? Youtube? Instagram reels? TikTok? 4chan lmao? The "people" buying these games don't give a shit about stuff online, vro. Otherwise, the console with no games wouldn't have sold 95 million units.
>>748254708They certainly do when people are returning the game en masse to the point where there are more used copies in circulation than new. The average person is smart than you think, and they don’t like dumb baby games made for babies like Wolverine.
>>748253107Have you seen the GPU prices the past 5+ years, and now RAM? I haven't kept up with the console price hikes, but if you bought a PS5 reasonably early it's been a perfectly sound gaming investment, no justification needed.
>>748211835Insomniac Marvel wolverine game personality didn't match his comic book personality, the fact that Logan is portrayed more accurately in children's cartoons than in an M-rated game is fucking insane to me.
>>748257221Super Hero Squad Wolverine is more accurate at this point.
>>748216954This is a downgrade compared to the PS360 Marvel games. Play Web of Shadows, X-Men Origins Wolverine, or even the Deadpool game. They feel infinitely better to play than this unfinished buggy garbage that constantly holds your hand, and has a god awful story. There are basically no redeeming qualities for this game.
>>748219118This issue isn’t that it got released too early, the issue is that they scrapped all of the good ideas and restarted development after the original creative director left. This game was probably only made in 2-3 years.
>>748211835The impatient are quick to be fooled by the unverified and deceitful whispers of jews and their shabbo goy.The patient will know how poorly you fared by the end of september.
>>748226519she was right haha
>>748211835$300,000,000 budget$70 game multiplied by 1.9 million...$133,000,000 return on a $300,000,000 gameSo Sony will just need to sell another 2.4 million copies in order to break even. On a game that everyone is mocking. Just to break even. Not to turn a profit.
>>748212315Wow they're on track to sell 231 million copies this year! Sony ALWAYS wins 8^)
>>748260294It's Wolver
>>748260294Their break even point is 5 million, and the budget was over $305,000,000.
>>748211835Weren't they claiming 2 million copies in just 2 days earlier?
What would be the consequences if this game were to actually flop?
>>748256643Wolverine in Deadpool game was better, fuck, every x-men character was
>>748260953>emergency PC port>layoffs at insomniac>next x-men game will be shelved>more investments into live service games
>>748211835This just means playstaton fanboys can't discern bad games, like Wolverine, from good games, like Playstation 2 era games.
>>748254079No one wanted the Horizon sequel. They were holding ps5's hostage behind Horizon bundles.For like a year you couldn't buy a ps5 unless it was from a scalper or the Horizon forbidden west bundle
>>748212250$140 million while the budget was like $300 million.
>>748238518and breaking even is still a flop, because then you just wasted a lot of time and manpower you could've put elsewhere.you don't pay 100 bucks for a shopping stand, make 110 and say it was worth it.
>>748261814The gamestop near me had to throw in a second controller, a controller charging stand, and Elden Ring to get those Horizon ps5 bundles to move.I wish we could see how many sales of Horizon forbidden west were because of elden ring and ps5 consoles
>>748211856/thread
>>748260805there aint no dang way this shit sells another 3 million copies unless they severely price cut it for black friday (and then that number needs to climb even higher since they're gonna be selling them on discount). All just so that they can give their investors their money back.>"But let's talk 2028. Have you had a chance to look over our proposal for Wolverine 2?"
>>748262702>x-men in 2029>x-men 3 in 2033
>>748263086Insomnia is so woke they're slowly turning their fucking white Spiderman logo black
>imagine "playing" insöymniac "games".Are sonygros dumb?
>>748218935>Spider-Man 3What retarded kind of fake is this?
Dunno how I screwed that up but >>748264496 was meant for >>748220114
They should have delayed it until next year. Regardless of the quality of the game - much of which is being parroted by people who haven’t played it (and is being grifted to death by disingenuous streamers, many of whom are more than happy to shill 2K, Fortnite and movieslop) - it was always going to become the fall guy for Sony’s shitty business decisions. What gives me a good kek is that it’s spiritually very similar to the Origins Wolverine game, which “gamers” are quick to dick ride as LE HECKIN HIDDEN PS3 ERA GEM, BRING BACK MUH NOSTALGIC LINEAR ACTION GAMES!
>>748265119>They should have delayed it until next year.you really think Sony won't do anything to piss off people next year?
>>748211835They're selling copies for $1.9 million?! They'll make that budget up in no time!
>>748253117>If a game looks interesting to you, do your own research instead of blinding trusting people that are no better than paid marketersThat was never the practice tho. You retards always gobble up reviews like the little sluts you are the second they align with your preconceived opinions.
>>748260294You're forgetting Disney takes 30 up to 50% of that
>>748211835>Alinea AnalyticsThe game is almost a week old, and not a peep about its sales from Sony. Also, Alinea is not reliable. Their estimates are based off of Playstation Store or Xbox Store reviews.
>>748267352OP knows that, he's paid 500 rupees a day to spread propaganda on /v/. The tragic part is how 80% of the retards here are falling for it.
>>748267573Do they not know that zelda is a video game and you can't spend that in real life?
>>748267352The reviews on psn are botted by Sony themselves btw. You won't find a single Sony game with a bad score on there.
>>748211835Pretty sure they need to sell 3 million to break even. I'm not even sure those numbers include marketing and licensing lol.
>>748269294>3 million7 to 8 million actually.
>Somehow, it lost another point on metacritic
>>748263086New Concordian timeline just dropped
>>748270082>no brag post>just more bad news
>>748270082Ouch
