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THE DEMO
YOU DOWNLOADED IT
WE CAME
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shoo shoo marketing team
no one cares
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I didn't do that
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>>748237535
On one hand, it's degenerate.
On the other, it accurately depicts the logical end result of degeneracy.
On the other other hand, it's degenerate.
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motörhead - hellraser
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>>748237793
>3 hands
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>>748237535
6.5 outta 10 max. Will play it through once when cracked.
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>>748237831
>he doesn't got three hands
lmao handlet
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I won’t buy it, but it seems like a good VIDEO game.
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>>748237535
boring, super linear
2cool4school using a super edgy franchise but keeping it pg13, the worst of two worlds
it doesn't evocate at all the feeling of being on a gay bdsm self mutilation nightclub like the original author intended
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>sadist cult full of degenerate masochists and sodomites
>not a single little girl in sight
Immersion ruined.
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>>748237653
you said this about literally any new or upcoming game discussed on /v/ thoughbeit
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>>748237653
>VIDEOGAMES ON MY VIDEOGAMES BOARD?!
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I am once again asking for a good screenshot of the "flower".
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>>748237535
very jewish game
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Why does every new game cause so much seethe on this board?
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I'm too lazy to download the demo, but is this more in line with RE7/8 or with other horror walking sims?
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>>748241390
its pretty much resident evil but hellraiser
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>>748241452
Damn... I might keep an eye on it then
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>>748238185
its over
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>>748238185
You'll have to wait for Heavenlowerer
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>>748237535
but I wanted to came
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>>748237831
GALUNGA
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>>748238185
this
are you going to tell me these fucks actually care about age of consent?
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>>748242398
can a little girl cenobite even be a thing? undoubtly some pedos called to leviathan but cenobites are humans christened by leviathan
I can imagine leviathan wouldn't give a fuck since he despises all life maybe he would make one just for lulz
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Reminder that, as of the end of the demo, Aidan is yet to remove the metal rod stuck in his urethra.
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>>748242398
Watch it there, chuddy. We like violence, gore and racial tensions showing the plight of the black man but don't you dare put pedophilia in my dark and edgy game about overindulging in pleasure!
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>>748242845
the cenobites/cult had nothing to do with that, why would he remove it?
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>>748242676
I think it's more that the cultists are obsessed with suffering, and what suffering can be sweeter than the suffering of innocent children? Surely the guy crafting those fucked up flesh sculptures would appreciate some virgin clay for his art? I guess you could justify it by saying they consider it too risky to their operation to potentially have kids be seen around. They are running an S&M club upstairs after all. They don't want authorities poking around.

Of course the real reason is the game could never be sold if it had kids being tortured.
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>>748242398
The practical, worldly truth is that, while it would be perfectly logical and even immersive for there to be children as either victims or members of the Scarlet Church, no studio in the world would be allowed to put that in the game and still publish it as anything other than a niche indie distributed via Mastodon or something.
We're just too sensitive about the subject to ever be clinical about it. Yes, it would make sense for this cult of violent sadists to include probably more than a few pedophiles, or to induct minors into their ranks, but you're never going to see that in an official licensed product.
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what's the lore reason for the floating geometric shape and giant endless maze
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>>748243313
The floating thing is Hell's current god, Leviathan.
The maze is Hell aka the Labyrinth.
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>>748243313
The Labyrinth is the dimension where the Cenobites come from. It's Hell, plain and simple.
The geometric shape is Leviathan, ruler of Hell, a god of pleasure and pain who is also obsessed with order and patterns, hence the Labyrinth.
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I enjoy high quality, tightly directed, optimized, FPS spook games.
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>>748243313
The big rhombus is Leviathan, the god of the labyrinth/the cenobites. It's exact nature is not well defined.

>giant endless maze
It's Leviathan's domain.
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>>748242398
Listen, we might be simulacra of total degenerates who only care about the pursuit of pleasure and pain, worship an eldritch entity who wants to destroy reality as we know it and inflict as much pain and suffering on human beings in ways you can only imagine, but we're not HECKING P*dos, chud.
Solve the Epstein puzzle and release the files.
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>>748243437
>>748243470
oh it's actually hell not some outer dimension and the ruler isn't lucifer, this is fucking awesome why doesn't more media steal from hellraiser I'm so sick and tired of the dante inferno copy-pastes
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>>748242845
That is a PA piercing he has, it wasn't done by the cult. I thought the same thing until I realize his arm was sewn to his chest that's what was being done off camera.
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>psycho artist who makes cool paintings and then mutilates and murders people to look like his art
it's great
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>>748243687
Well shit, I thought they'd done that to him for laughs. There was no need for both the hook and nail to hold down his left arm so I figured they just tortured him a bit.
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>>748243858
I thought it was the other way around, he painted the paintings from the sculptures, but then I realized we see him making one with the girl and using his painting as a guide so you're right. We do see multiple versions of each painting so I wonder if he makes one after the sculpture is complete
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>>748239319
And it will continue until it's something that appeals to me. Us fellow channers got old to the point where I miss the capcom unity niggers making overly polite posts about street fighter x tekken
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>>748237653
But if it were a Wolverine twitter thread it's just "board culture," right? Fuck off--this is a VIDEO GAME.
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What's his fucking problem?
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>>748241830
stealing this
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>>748244056
He just wants everyone to feel good.
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>>748243909
Yeah in hindsight they should have just tied both arms to the chair, but then there wouldn't be a video game.

I really did think they shoved a sounding rod in his dick though, until I took control and noticed the stitching on his arm
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>>748237535
The fuck they are talking about fulfilling your desires? They just torture you.
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>>748244056
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>>748244328
The cenobites reach out to people whose desires are to be tortured a lil
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>>748244328
the people who solve the box are supposed to be those who have descended so far into depraved pleasure seeking that all normal sources of pleasure have long since started to bore them and turning pain into pleasure is their only recourse
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>>748244328
Sorry, no refunds.
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I remain cautiously optimistic. The style looks on point but sneaking around in a sex dungeon wasn't the height of gameplay. Squarely mite b cool territory.
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>>748243909
>>748244327
If you look in the room, you can see there's a painting with one of its arms against its chest.
Aiden was specifically pinned like that because he was being made into art.
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>>748244328
They think that's what you sincerely want because it's what they sincerely want.
They also sometimes warn people that what they're offering may not be what the person is thinking they're accepting.
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>>748237653
Just go back to the designated WoW forever thread it’s getting boring
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>>748244496
I agree with the sneaking around bit, towards the end of the demo you get the gun and lots of bullets so hoping it leans more into the action.
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They can’t take children. They all go to heaven.
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>>748238185
They’re sadomasochistic club owners who worship neo-satan, not JEWS anon
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>>748244513
Good eye anon, I should go back to that part and pay more attention to the paintings in the room
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>>748244601
In the full game you get the genesis configuration and cool hell powers, so I'm sure there will be plenty of action.
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>>748241510
I saw the demo, can confirm it’s basically slightly jankier RE7 in UE5 with more psychological horror elements and higher gore and with hellraiser lore instead of BOWs obviously
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>>748244496
The stealth gameplay seemed so barebones (no detection states, no leaning, no safe zones) that I'm thinking in the final game it won't be a focus, you're either fighting enemies or running from invincible Cenobites.
There will also probably be puzzles with the box and whatnot.
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>>748244804
It will probably be a movie game, but I like Hellraiser and Clive Barker's universe alot, so I wouldn't mind if that's how the final game ended up.
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>>748242845
It's called a Prince Albert
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>>748243909
Actually I thought those were baby tier restraints
Nobody in that condition is breaking out of conventional handcuffs tied to something sturdy if you ask me. Or like.. ankle and wrist clamps lol AMATEURS
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>>748244332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlvga-_v2PQ
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>>748244932
Yeah, I don't care if the gameplay is mid, I'm just happy to have some decent Hellraiser media. They seem to have nailed the lore and aesthetics.
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I've seen BDSM/LGBT types praising this game and saying it'll own the chuds etc.

And, I know Clive Barker is gay, but hellraiser overall doesn't seem to glorify BDSM. You could argue it's overall serially conservative because thr BDSM people are bad and being punished for their desires.
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>>748244513
Those faggots.. damn that explains that and the drugs then, if he wasn’t a fucking druggy already he wouldn’t have been able to break out im guessing. In the teaser I saw I was a bit annoyed that when the first player got guns he didn’t immediately go into the ‘art room’ to ventilate bruno and everyone downstairs or pick up those gnarly looking scissors at the beginning even. Sucks
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My, how nice of him to ask you politely.
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>>748245079
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>>748245290
they do that in the novella for Frank
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>>748245150
Hellraiser is probably the least gay of Clive's stories.
All the human characters are straight, Kirsty, her dad, Frank, Julia, both in the book and the movie, same for all the movie and sequels besides the latest one which had the gay brother with a boyfriend.
And all cenobites so far at least as in the movies have had either a very obviously male or female shape (including the latest one despite the tranny pinhead which looks quite female), despite the fact they'd be the perfect examples of mismatched sexual abominations of the flesh
I guess Pinhead in the book at least had a breathy excited girl voice with an androgynous body
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>>748245290
This has always been inconsistent. Even in the novella, the cenobites ask Frank, the guy who specifically summoned them if he's sure this is what he wants. Later on Kirsty accidentally solves the box knowing nothing about it and the cenobites are just like "sucks to suck, let's get going."
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>mfw i'm immune to cenobites because i'm too stupid to solve the puzzle cube
checkmate, cenocucks
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>>748245150
BDSM types do *not* praise hellraiser, it's the equivalent of satanic panic for them
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>>748242398
Yes because they want to destroy the corrupted. Children are innocent
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>>748245538
based retard
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>>748245538
The box isn't meant to be a difficult puzzle.
Also it literally guides you along and has cute music notes and lights as you start solving to entice you into going further
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>>748245538
Is the puzzle cube actually a logically puzzle to solve or does it basically solve itself if you're "compatible" with it?
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>>748245150
>hate censorship
>game with zero censorship
>youll hate this chud!!
Wow, I know which club you go to now.
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>>748237535
>game starts with a WMAF sex scene
I will now play your game.
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>>748245669
Which club?
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>Hellraiser is probably the least gay of Clive's stories.
>Jericho
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>>748245408
>>748245534
So what happens if you say no? They will just leave?
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I didn't like the combat much, it felt cheap, neither the guns nor the melee weapons felt like they had a proper punch to them and I wish the melee was more fleshed out. Was kinda hoping it would be like condemned where enemies would try to ambush you, feint their attacks etc. and you had to time your blocks and attacks well, but the AI just run at you flailing. But I really like the source material and the aesthetics which is probably the only reason why I want to play it. Call me edgy but I really like gory and violent stuff in my vidya
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>>748245538
If you jerk off on the box it opens. Its not a rubiks cube, it responds to whoever is using it it seems
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>>748245716
The one in this game with all the weird cunts
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>>748245538
it's a metaphor for getting into porn. You start with something tame like a girl showing some ankle, you like that, you keep going. Eventually you end up on "retardedgayelves.org" with ten dildos in your ass fully stimmed to agp sissy hypno heavily debating putting a glass jar up your ass
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>>748245150
> but hellraiser overall doesn't seem to glorify BDSM
The entire point of the book is barker turning into literature his descent into the gay community.
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>>748245583
I found BDSM and even scatshit understandable but the moment I saw women literally hanging off meathooks Hellraiser style yeah now that shit was fucking loathsome tier of degeneracy, only thing worse is the freaks literally amputating their dicks off and castrating themselves (and they aren't even trannies, just done because of self mutilation)
Cenobites don't even need people to open a fucking box, these obscenely degenerate types already exist in real life and quite frankly need to be permanently institutionalized
I can't imagine how fucked up your brain chemistry must be to the point you get off self mutilation
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I literally look like this.
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>>748245150
>I've seen BDSM/LGBT types praising this game and saying it'll own the chuds etc.
But everything in this series points to that stuff being bad though, doesn't it? These are literally the bad guys, why would gay peopl... oooooh..
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>>748245771
I don't believe that's ever been depicted. Tbh I think they only ask if they know you (think) you want it and will say yes. That way you have something more to regret when you're being force-fed your intestines in hell.
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>>748245778
The legacy of Condemned is INSANE.. its been over 20 years. Fucking crazy.
And yes, most arthouse people have never played condemned or been in situations like this, its clearly more inspired by RE and shit, not saying its bad, but obviously there was more attention to the art and the substance than the combat, which feels a little shallow at the moment, and the stealth kills are really aggregious.
>>748245738
>Kino-icho
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>>748245913
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>>748245860
Oh yeah. That one. Yep, just joined up yesterday! One of those fine ladies asked me if I "wanted to see what her insides looked like". Later virgins!
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KIRSTY
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>>748237824
You ought to fix that guitar, son
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>>748245889
I have heard as such from people going off the deep end
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>>748245771
People keep asking this question and the answer is always "it depends on which movie/book you're watching".
It's not consistent. If it's the first book then yes, they just leave, with maybe a warning that you'll probably find your way to them again and they won't take no for an answer. If it's the later movies they won't even ask, they just show up already swinging the hooks.
Sometimes they require someone else in exchange even if you opened the box by mistake. Other times they can tell if the person who opened the box was being used or manipulated into it and just go after the real culprit.
In the game it seems to be following the logic of the 2022 movie where they come after people who are cut by the box because they make their offer to Sunny and ignore Aidan until he tries to interfere, and even then just kind of shove him away instead of killing him. Time will tell but I'm leaning towards their less villainous early characterization from what I've seen in the demo.
I've personally always found it more interesting when the Cenobites are not villains.
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>>748245945
BDSM is not the same thing whatever the cenobites do. The gore and other shit like that. They are taking things "a little too far" even for De Sade. But I guess there are humans that are into shit even like this...
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>>748245945
Yea its really a question that answers itself doesn’t it? They hate fat titties, but never raise an eyebrow at torture gore porn.. really makes you think
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>>748245906
The extreme bdsm stuff has always been off putting. people want to be delimbed and frozen in carbonite and aren't even joking.
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>>748246032
Lol I wonder what his carcass will end up looking like
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>>748245889
Unc are you 70? Everyone's first exposure to naked women was through those animated banner ads.
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>>748246074
Fuck kirsty
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>>748243487
>nu Lara
Are /v/tards even allowed to post this?
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>>748246502
don't mind if I do
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Clive barker writes the sort of shit that is perfect for video games when you have no consideration for the likes of PEGI or ESRB. Real experimental deep end shit but since games are not art (unlike books yo) things must be curtailed.
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>>748244056
If you wanted to rationalize it, maybe angels (or whatever it is) are capable of everything humans are except sensation and that's why it's so focused on that.
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>>748244018
This board doesn't exist solely for you. It's for me.
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>>748247079
Devs didn’t get the memo. Seen the demo? Even I was shocked
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Can I get Jericho 2 after this?
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Maybe I'm too vanilla but I can't imagine getting tortured like this can be worth it. Like what happens after the horniness wears off?
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>>748244804
I'm guessing stealth will be like you can get a couple of easy kills to make an encounter easier but ultimately you're just blasting your way through the game.
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>>748247543
Never ever but I would like.
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>>748243560
>why doesn't more media steal from hellraiser
you already got berserk and every single nihongo ip that isn't copying lynch copies that, so indirectly, you got the entirety of fromslop's miyazaki library ripping off hellraiser and that's the only series according to /v
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>>748247552
People like this don't think beyond the "now". You just have to come to the realization you're surrounded with insect brained subhumans.
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>>748245738
why did this type of game die?
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>>748244056
Look man, if you ain't got the fetish you're just not gonna get it so stop asking questions and flay somebody already
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>>748245150
Hellraiser 3 is so hilarious because the entire movie is basically
>fuck punks
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>>748247552
>Like what happens after the horniness wears off?
To a degree the point is it doesn't the torture IS where the horniness comes from as it is the experiencing the extremes of sensation. You love eating chocolate cake? What if you had to do that all day every day? Regular normies would hate it but the people the cenobites target are the ones that would do that and demand more.
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>Aidan gets the box
>it starts glowing with hellfire
>"All right! It's time to raise some hell!"
I clapped
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>>748247543
>>748245738
Play Lollipop Chainsaw and Shadow of Damned
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>>748246162
>They are taking things "a little too far" even for De Sade
De Sade's big thing was the fantasy of being able to do all the violent whippy stuff and then heal the damage, he spent real effort into finding lotions and tinctures and stuff that could just make the consequences go away but obviously nothing actually worked out.
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>>748248161
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>>748247543
Is this game actually good?
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>>748245454
I remember planned NES games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZKJdbvfkw
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Love this guy
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>>748246502
I want her take on futa succubus
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>>748247396
didn't ask slave
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>>748248236
wtf it's coming out on Switch? Surely it'll be censored to hell?
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>>748245906
I feel like shit like this existed exclusively in the 90s, people were just that freaky
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>>748248224
Jericho and the older Clive Barker game, Undying, are both worth playing. They're fun.
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>>748245150
I hate the connection between BDSM and gay/trans shit, in the past they could overlap but were understood to be distinct but there used to be a lot of very straight BDSM porn that just played with lightweight power dynamics and mild bondage and it was part of media culture everywhere (see old Warhammer 40k art for example, even in the imperium art).
But somewhere along the way it started getting associated more with gay parades and open street degeneracy.
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>>748237653
I know what you're doing. No one here talks about anything unless they're baited.
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>>748248281
Must be one of the /v/tards.
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>>748248281
>Sony ending physical disc production will kill them
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>>748244328
Imagine the horse shoe theory except this time it's pleasure and pain
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>>748248348
They won't. The game have no DEI.
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>>748244328
People obviously get hung up on the pain aspect.
But what the box and priest offers is
>Pain and pleasure, as one.
Your entire senses are overwhelmed with pleasure and pain. They burn out every part of your pleasure centre, you experience everything all at once. The book is quite clear on how it feels to Frank. He jerks off while it is happening to him.
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>>748248450
Modern BDSM grew out of gay leather culture from the 50s/60s.
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>>748248710
good morning saar
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>>748244328
I assumed it was a magic spell that turns pain into pleasure, so now not only do you get off normally, but something like a baseball bat to the face is also enjoyable
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>>748245079
Ayy yo HOL UP is that the muckerfucking QUAKE LOGO
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>>748244328
adrenochrome, gentile.
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>>748245791
>If you jerk off on the box it opens. Its not a rubiks cube
You've been jerking off on the wrong rubiks cubes.
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>>748248857
That's probably more so leather and latex stuff. I seen bondage porn vintage pics from 30's and so on, you know, tying up and whipping women, that sort of thing. Whipping in general you can see in some of the old 19th century coomer art.
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>>748248871
No, there's no magic that makes torture feel like an orgasm. You have to learn to appreciate it.
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>>748247552
Frank's brain was completely fried in the film. It's the reason he sought the cube in the first place, because not even the most out there shit on /gif/ could make him coom anymore
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>>748248996
kek
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>>748248996
>Oh do not appeal. Such a waste of a good banning.
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>>748248868
Now go play Wolverine, saar
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>>748249101
kek
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>>748249076
talk about meatspin...
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>>748244328
It's about sensation, not pleasure. Pleasure is a sensation, but so is pain. You grow numb to pleasure very quickly, pain not so quickly
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Console demo?
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>>748248996
saved lmao
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THE DEVS BADMOUTHED BASED CHANNARD, I REPEAT, THE DEVS BADMOUTHED BASED CHANNARD

DEVS CONFIRMED BOOTY BLASTED PINFAGGOTS
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>>748249126
>brazilian retard doesn't even understand why he was called esl
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>>748248996
top kek
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But what do the Cenobites eat
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>>748249429
Ass?
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>>748249347
>Brazilian ESL
Nice projection, ranjeet
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>>748246132
>I've personally always found it more interesting when the Cenobites are not villains.
Cringe fedora tipping faggot. The Cenobites should never be neutral or le respectful gentlemen, taking and leaving souls should be up to their own discretion, with it all depending on how they feel at that particular moment. They shouldn't care how anyone feels, including innocents caught in the crossfire of gooners.
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>>748249291
Goofy ass three stooges motherfucker. Worst part of the sequel.
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>>748249291
wtf is this shit
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>>748246502
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>YOU DOWNLOADED IT
and it was a good idea
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>>748247972
Edgy-type games lost steam along with nu metal. Coincidence?
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>>748244672
Dare I say... somewhat based
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>>748245989
>The legacy of Condemned is INSANE.. its been over 20 years. Fucking crazy.
Well it was a good fucking game
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Does Leviathan have any purpose behind turning people into Cenobites other than doing it for shits and giggles?
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>>748248857
>the gays developed kinky power games and bondage
They may have influenced some of it but they definitely were not the originators of this, there's old gothic literature that plays with the concepts and like with anything its better without faggots involved.
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>>748249702
They serve him as his worshippers, priests, enforcers, lawyers, that kind of thing.
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>>748249429
I doubt they need to. Given that they maintain horrific open wounds that don't become infected, they are not subject to standard biological processes.
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>>748249603
Bad guy from the second film. He makes puns too.
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>>748249850
From what I remember of watching the first 2 Hellraiser films and reading the book a while later, Leviathan hates life and is turning people who are numb to everything into Cenobites because he thinks its funny. Why would he need enforcers and such if what he does is only a play for him?
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>>748249702
He's the Satan analogue. His whole purpose is to corrupt humanity and to destroy creation.
Tourists will tell you that it is inaccurate to even consider that and say "but muh angels to some demons to others" but for fuck's sake, the realm is called "hell" where endless torment and sin take place outside of God's attention.
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>>748249603
I RECOMMEND...DILATION
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>>748250142
Can't believe Pinhead lose
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>>748248370
Where even would you get these? They're not on steam or gog.
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>>748250090
Because he doesn't have legs to walk his happy ass into our realm and grab people himself. I don't think he's capable of much beyond shining a light on you.
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So what's the secret behind the optimization? SH Townfall just came out, uses the same engine and runs like shit. I had zero issues with the Hellraiser demo even on the more open and populated areas
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>>748250090
That characterization is from the comics. Leviathan isn't in the book or the first movie at all, and virtually nothing is explained about it in the second movie other than that it's the "Lord of the labyrinth."
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Casual reminder that a few mini runs of Event Horizon comics ended recently-ish. I think there's also a comic thing about Resurrection.
If any of you nerds are into that sort of thing.
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>>748243189
bro really typed allat like its not obvious
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Humanizing Leviathan by giving it "goals" and "purpose" removes the divinity of it.
Gods don't need to have a "reason" to spread their faith and further their worship.
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>>748250253
People miss the fact Channard was connected to Leviathan and Pinhead didn't care about Channard in particular, Pinhead was rebelling against Leviathan. So Leviathan, using Channard as it's proxy, gave Pinhead and his crew the axe.
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Should I rewatch the movies? I only watched the first one a decade ago.
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>>748250297
Undying is on GOG. I recommend using the Renewal mod which you can download on GOG too. Jericho is a whole other thing and a bit of a bitch to get running. Download the ElAmigos repack from here and check the pcgamingwiki for the game for the fixes.
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/clive-barker-s-jericho-gm8#download

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Clive_Barker%27s_Jericho
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>>748250529
>>748250103
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>>748244741
the box firing off plasmids from bioshock is pretty fucking dumb tho
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leviathan is pretty cool but if they ever explain it away completely it's gonna fucking suck
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>>748250563
>>748250253
Pinhead rebels? Wtf are the plots of this shit. I only seen first film.
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>>748250472
Thanks anon. I might check those out.
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>>748250605
Only 1 and 2 are any good, sadly
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I told the cenobites that I like NTR and they made me their leader.
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>>748250807
Pinhead and his crew had been tortured for so long they forgot they were once human. When Kirsty proves they were originally human Pinhead is disgusted and throws down with Channard who Leviathan was using as a conduit.
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Demo bored the shit out of me honestly.
Just play Condemned or Outlast.
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>>748250978
jej
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>>748250978
>you have chosen... the cuck configuration
>you are already punished enough, we can inflict nothing upon you
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>>748251013
but I already fucking did and I want more
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>>748251013
>outlast
isn't that the boring hide and avoid game? just like amnesia?
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>>748250807
It's not so much he explicitly rebels, but Kirsty causes him and the others to remember their former lives as humans which gives them an existential crisis, awakens a sense of empathy in them, and Pinhead is about to let her go. Leviathan ain't about that shit, so he jacks into the newly created Channard cenobite to deal with them personally in a very anticlimatic battle where he shoots a few spikes and they all die.
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>>748238185
pedo "don't mention being pedo" for a single post challenge: impossible

only the most fucked up and wicked people see horror movies/games and fucked up gory shit and instantly think "YEAH BUT WHY ISN'T IT A LITTLE GIRL WHO CAN'T CONSENT"
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>>748250472
Freaked me out more than hellraiser, genuinely impressive
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>open puzzle box for better games
>cenobites can't fulfill that which is impossible
>they leave
man
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>>748250616
Thanks, anon
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>>748250807
The only good part of 2 is that it introduces Leviathan, the Hell Labyrinth, Cenobites being former humans.
It's not a good movie. It's entirely carried by lore ideas it put in place while the actual movie is a garbage plot with shitty characters.
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>>748250605
Watch the first, then read the novelette, then if you want to know more about the Cenobites specifically, watch the second film. Most fans ignore any lore added after those so continue at your own peril.
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the style in this games cinematic presentation is better than any of the films
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>>748251149
You are just forced to play the most vile game.
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>>748251168
>It's entirely carried by lore ideas it put in place while the actual movie is a garbage plot with shitty characters.
All of the characters are great, especially Channard, kino character both as a human and a Cenobite. The problem is they were moving production from the UK to the US and Britbong currency got rek'd, so there was a massive budget cut. On top of this Andrew Robinson refused to return at the last second so they had rewrite parts of the script, which makes for an often confusing messy third act.
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>>748251274
....Final Fantasy XVI?
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>>748251335
That may be too vile even for cenobites...
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>>748249646
Only somewhat? Damn
>>748249664
Yea it was tbf.. the sequel really dumbed it down but the original concept was insane, theres no game that really captured that intense, manic fracas of fighting insane possessed crackheads like condemned.. they are like freaked up on crack/coke and md all at once, I love it. And the atmosphere, heavy as fog.. It made me actually not want to linger around because it was so intense, moments in the game just felt so fucking horrible like you could just smell the gross damp and the mould and the hideous crack addicts looking to kill you and sniff the asshole of your corpse if they fucking killed you
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>>748251071
>only the most fucked up and wicked people see horror movies/games and fucked up gory shit and instantly think "YEAH BUT WHY ISN'T IT A LITTLE GIRL WHO CAN'T CONSENT"
No, you're being disingenuous. Some people have a lower threshold for suspension of disbelief and see it as a glaring artistic fault when people who are supposed to be fucked up depraved sadomasochistic cultists would never lay a finger on a girl who was 17 years, 364 days, and 23 hours old.
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>>748249026
I wouldnt jerk off on the puzzle box thats for sure
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>>748251054
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>>748251495
Children aren't S&M demons in hell
Sorry dude, cenobites protect little girls in the comics
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>>748251330
Channard sucked dick and only retards like him.
He was the origin point of Cenobites in the later movies becoming shitty slasher villains who have nothing to do with sensation, experience, pain, or pleasure.
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>>748251583
proofs?
I'd believe it desu, hell only exists for those who deserve to be punished, a little girl is too young and innocent to be cast into hell
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>>748251639
Except he was exactly like the og Cenobites? He just had flair and excitement, him "killing" the patients in their beds was just a means to get them into the Labyrinth, like Pinhead ripping Frank apart. Know your place lil Pinbitch, know your place.
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>>748251583
I'm talking about the cultists in the game, not the cenobites.

Cenobites not taking children also isn't a hard rule or anything. Pinhead spared Tiffany because he could sense he was being played. The rest of his crew was about to rip her apart if he hadn't stopped them. Female even says "No?" in suprise after Pinhead stops them.
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>>748248929
Quake was pretty eldritch coded before strogg desu
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>>748251737
Hell exist for all those who have not been washed clean of Original Sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ. A little girl is not too young to have been born in sin, which permeates every single one of us. Learn your theology. There are no exemptions based on age.
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>>748251994
I didn't take Clive Barker for a protestant
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>>748248763
Frank is a fucking
F R E A K
though
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>>748251737
Desire to summon them and consent is literally the strongest element of the entire ballgame with the Cenobites

>>748251828
The entire tension that exists in horror where children are present is the thought of danger happening to the child. The cultists are literally in Hell. Pay closer attention to what's going on, idiot. They're all in S&M gear in a club. They literally give consent to be carved apart

None of these works depict hardcore child pornography and if you are so fucking obsessed with children that you can't shut that shit off for 5 seconds when witnessing grotesque horror, then God fucking help you
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>>748251994
>nooooo innocent dead little girls are definitely being raped and tortured in Hell!
More Jewish and evil than anything Clive Barker has put to the page
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>>748252104
jesus got some kinky ass angels
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>>748252230
That's the only God a little girl could know. Notice Hell Priests instant "Stop the torture of a little girl? Interesting. You are safe, CHILD."
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>>748252165
Some little girls deserve it.
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>>748251994
That would be purgatory faggot
Hell is for those who actively deny God
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>>748251583
Yeah, but let's be real, it's because of censorship and sensibilities of writers. Torturing, raping and killing children is something that actually happens irl, so demonic shits like cenobites could do it too.
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>>748252621
so as long as i believe in god i get to have sex in heaven?
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>>748252637
You do not understand anything about Hellraiser.
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>>748252665
Belief is not the only metric. There is also abstaining from sin which is inherently turning God away.
In other words no. You have to actually be a good person as opposed to a murdering rapist who just happens to believe.
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>>748252104
I can post non-canon comics too.
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>>748252104
>>748252798
>There is also abstaining from sin which is inherently turning God away.
This is not Christianity. This is Catholicism or JWs or Mormonism. In Christianity trusting in the blood sacrifice God performed in the flesh as Jesus Christ to redeem you of your sins is the only thing that can redeem you. You will always continue to sin.
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>>748237824
>Not my Hellraiser

https://youtu.be/Q3l-faquXJE?si=KAKYBt8RvSmhqW52
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>>748252104
>>748252926
both of these are fucking retarded
I also think the end scene in the first movie where the cenobites are trying to kill kirsty and steve was also fucking retarded
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>>748252934
Every Christian denomination that is worth being apart of believes that you have to stay away from sin in order to not get sent to hell. It's just that Catholicism in particular believes in purgatory and that God forgives those who genuinely feel remorse for their actions and pursue redemption.
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Why do these guys show up when you finish a puzzle box? Like why a puzzle box? If you're trying to recruit weird masochists to your hell realm you should make the initiation something only weird masochists would like.
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>skyrim lockpicking
TODD PLEASE NO
I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO SKYRIM
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christianity is fun because there's a million denominations and if you don't believe in the right interpretation you'll be boiling in cum and shit for all eternity so hope you gambled right retard
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>>748253094
You tards who think the Cenobites are le good guys le fedora tipping respectful gentlemen cant even stay consistent with your own logic. If the Cenobites are "good" guys by your Reddit logic because they think the experience they give people in the Labyrinth is the best thing a person can experience, does it not make sense for them to want to take as much people with them as possible? They're doing Kirsty and Steve a "favor" by trying to take them. They may be protesting, but once they've had a few centuries of torture, they'll start to enjoy it.

In actuality the Cenobites are villains and only a retard thinks they're even "neutral". But even by your Reddit fedora logic, it's still logical for the Cenobites to want to take Kirsty and Steve.
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>>748253286
>lockpicks consume durability instead of only breaking on a failure
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I OPENED MY LEGS
YOU PLAYED
I CAME
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>>748253286
>you bought Skyrim (again), we came (again)
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>>748253352
I like it, feels like home. I wonder why other horror games don't have a lockpick mechanic
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>>748253371
kek
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>DUUUUUDE THERE HAS TO BE CHILD RAPE AND TORTURE IN THE PRODUCT BECAUSE.....SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
Lock this dude up and throw away the key
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>>748253201
>Every Christian denomination that is worth being apart of believes that you have to stay away from sin in order to not get sent to hell
Anyone who thinks they don't sin is lying to themselves, but on the day of judgment, they will not be able to lie to God. They will brag about the commandments they supposedly kept and how they deserve redemption. The saved will acknowledge they don't deserve God's mercy, but they trusted in Christ's blood sacrifice to redeem them nonetheless.
>and pursue redemption.
That's a rejection of the blood sacrifice God performed. If you still need to pursue redemption, then what was the point of the sacrifice?

>>748253303
It's not complicated. You trust in Christ's blood sacrifice to redeem you and that alone. Simple. Every other "denomination" is identical to every other religion. True Christianity, as I just described, is unique, it is the only religion in the entire world where you're saved merely by believing. In Hinduism, Catholicism, Islam, Mormonism, Buddhism, etc etc you can only be rewarded with that religion's version of "heaven" by following an autistic set of rules. Every religion is a copy and paste of each other.

Christianity is just accept Christ's blood sacrifice and you're saved.
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>>748253239
It probably could've been a dagger but Leviathan seems to really like right angles.
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>>748253239
Leviathan has autism
Keep in mind one of his messengers is a chinese man who transforms into a bone dragon, he's just a massive autistic nerd
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>>748253338
>You tards who think the Cenobites are le good guys le fedora tipping respectful gentlemen cant even stay consistent with your own logic.
They are more of a lawful neutral force in canon. They literally have nothing to do with you as long as you don't actively summon them.
Don't fuck with cosmic horrors and they won't rear their ugly heads at you.
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>>748253575
If they want me to join their shitty sadist cult they should start appealing to real sadists such as myself
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>>748253710
I thought the bone dragon was the homeless guy eating crickets who kept stalking Kirsty
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>>748248281
>Pinhead
>Butterball
>Deep Throat
>The Chatterer
>And who could forget
>Blue Ray
Funny how Clive Barker was able to predict that Sony's CDs weren't going to be part of the mortal realm for too long.
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>>748253857
You would be murdered by niggers in prison
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>>748253736
>They literally have nothing to do with you as long as you don't actively summon them.
If you're caught in the crossfire and just happen to cross paths with them after someone else has summoned them, it's canon that they can decide to take or leave you at their own discretion.

As I said, you have this cringe 13 year old boy's philosophy of the Cenobites being le respectful fedora tipping nods respectfully at you gentlemen. They're not. They're cunts. They'll take anyone who happens to be around when summoned just for the sake of it. If you catch them on a good day they might ignore you. It's all at their own discretion. I just BTFO your logic by reminding you the Cenobites think they're doing good by taking people to their realm because they think they're giving them a "pleasurable" experience. So by your cringe Reddit logic, it makes sense for them to want to take as many people as possible because they want to give everyone a "good time".
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The amount of pedo apologetics in the Hellraiser thread is ridiculous

Shut the fuck up about hurting kids, disgusting pieces of shit
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>>748253286
>skyrim lockpicking
>RE4 case but vertical
>last of us craft items in a pocket dimension
>oblivion melee combat
>metro gunfights
>RE puzzles
This game is literally just an amalgation of random shit
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>>748254087
It's a fucking video game with not real kids. I'll drive over them if I want to, faggot.
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>>748253979
>If you're caught in the crossfire and just happen to cross paths with them after someone else has summoned them, it's canon that they can decide to take or leave you at their own discretion.
Have they ever actually taken a bystander in canon? I don't mean in a shitty movie or stupid comic, I mean in someone Clive Barker actually wrote. Like even in one of the movies some guy forces an little girl to open the box only for the cenobites to go for the guy instead because he was the one who forced her to and left the girl alone.
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The demo is like 30 minutes long and the combat is ass.
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>disgusting and evil piece of shit feels called out
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>>748254172
To be fair, that's what the movies feel like too.
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>>748254235
It's two hours, you liar. Combat isn't great.
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>>748254393
>It's two hours
Maybe if you died to the chatter for an hour straight
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>>748252104
>ermm they might be demons who torture people for eternity but thats a LE HECKING CHILDERINO!!!
why do they care
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>>748251583
The Cenobites do take children. Chatterer's human form in 2 is revealed to be a child/young teen.
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>>748254228
Butterball tried to kill Steve in Part 1. In Part 2 Pinhead had every intention of taking Kirsty and Tiffany until Kirsty proved they were once human.
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>>748253575
I just wanted their depraved cult to be more believable sorry...
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>>748241830
Underrated.
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the scale of cult victims is a bit silly like they eclipse the second movie by a factor of fuck
but oh well apart from that it might be neat.
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>>748252934
Catholicism is where every single tennet of Christianity comes from retard. Every SINGLE thing you have about Jesus was what they cherry picked, wrote and interpreted - you don't even have anything written from his time.
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>>748241246
Miserable people get angry when they see others having fun without them. The hate is the only joy they experience anymore. Pathetic life to live.
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>>748248348
Who knows. Witcher and Cyber punk aren't censored. Supposedly Dispatch being censored was the developers call because they wanted to sell it in japan.
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>>748254598
>>748254631
>>748254775
>rape and torture of children is my ideology
Time to pack it up already
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>>748248236
The difference between this and ps5 Ad
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I wasn't expecting /dbs/ tier shitposts in a hellraiser thread
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>>748240165
Clive Barker is the opposite of a Jew, his nose is inverted.
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>>748252070
The base line is that you are a freak bro, that is the whole point for people to seek out the box.
They get tired of the world experiences and seek more.
>It is not hands that call us, it is desire.
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Sorry but I when played the game and walked through their rape dungeon below their underground BDSM diddy party I couldn't but think to myself "Where are the children?"
Can't blame the devs though...
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>>748242398
Listen obviously the evil cultists would kill kids, but games don't do that. No kids in GTA, invincible kids in Bethesda games, it's just a taboo that people don't cross. Maybe one day games will show that, boundaries are always being pushed, but it's not a future I'm waiting for.
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>>748255265
Catholicism is just another work based religion (e.g, every religion ever except Christianity). They also doing an endless list of absurd things like praying to angels and deceased humans. Pure madness.
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>>748255204
>the scale of cult victims is a bit silly
A couple hundred at most. If the club is located in a major city that many missing people is nothing major.
Also the dead detective says the cult leader has "big money", so he can probably pay off police and/or the government (assuming this isn't an Epstein-type situation and they're straight up involved).
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>>748256032
>Maybe one day games will show that
Are you sure that you're not too young to post here?
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>>748256042
>Catholicism is just another work based religion (e.g, every religion ever except Christianity)
Lmao
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Only on /v/ can you see people accusing the developers of a game this explicit being called censorious pearl-clutchers because they didn't include kids being raped and killed by the sex cultists in a product that's being sold on consoles and running ads on fucking Facebook.
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>>748256032
>boundaries are always being pushed
ah yes, pushing the boundaries that nobody even had 20 years ago, before everything became gay and whitewashed
you could kill kids in the original deus ex, fallout, pathologic, just 3 off the top of my head
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>>748244496
>sneaking around in a sex dungeon wasn't the height of gameplay
it's the tutorial you fucking buffoon
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does anyone else remember going to blockbuster during the 90s and seeing this poster and being too scared to rent it
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>>748237535
>hear about Hellraiser for decades
>never watch it because I don't care for goreporn
>thought the idea of a otherworldly torture dimension is a cool concept, despite that
>"um actually it's Christian hell"
Another cool idea ruined, just like Silent Hill for me (it being a literal town instead of a nightmare/dream realm or a purgatory-esque realm
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The game doesn't even have rape, you expect me to believe these BDSM cultists don't rape ANYONE?
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>>748256589
In this story Leviathan is the anti-life to Gods life.
Hell emerged out of a mirror process to what God did to create the universe.
It is connects to the Christian story in that hell existed and Lucifer was imprisoned there. But Lucifer is actually sidelined in most of the story.
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>>748256589
silent hill is a little girl's inherent psychic abilities allowing her to manifest her thoughts in reality, and her being impregnated with a demon god that warps her thoughts to nightmares, attempting to birth itself through her thoughts
the town is irrelevant in sh1/3's lore
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>>748256356
>accusing the developers of a game this explicit being called censorious pearl-clutchers
Nobody is doing that. Everyone understands the impossibility of releasing a commercial game with that kind of content on major platforms. It's still something that's notable in its absence given the context of the game.
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>>748237535
>no demo on PS5
I AM IN HELL HELP ME
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>>748256934
And that's retarded as fuck
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>>748256589
Much like Silent Hill, fans just throw out any lore they disagree with. To 95% of us the Labyrinth is hellish, but it's not Hell. The game devs are doing the same thing. You're not going to see Disc-head because he's just not canon to fans.
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>>748256883
>leviathan is hell but it's not
???
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>>748257008
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>>748238185
this rubs me the wrong way each time someone makes an edgy game or show about the most depraved shit possible but never actually goes there
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>>748257279
The "lore" says Leviathan was born at the same time as God and is an anti-existence to him.
God brings life and disorder, Leviathan brings death and order.
When god did his great work, it also created a dominion of existence that has an equal and opposite reaction. Hell was created at the same time everything else was and was just a convenient hole to chuck a rebelling son and his army in.
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>>748251168
>Cenobites being former humans
>good
Fuck off. They were better when they were cosmic horrors beyond human understanding.
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>>748257436
It's right up there with the whole "I'd glass entire planets and sell my soul to the devil but I'd NEVER EVER say a slur" thing.
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>>748256934
>the town is irrelevant in sh1/3's lore
Why does it appear in all the other games then, even side game shit like Downcoming
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The combat in this game is bullshit. There's way too much of it, your weapons break too quickly, and the pistol is weak. In the room after your first stealth kill, the one with three enemies, you usually end up aggroing the three in the next series of rooms. Fuck me is it irritating. pic related. I wish the game was just a spooky puzzle game with some combat instead of mainly combat with some puzzles.
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>>748245290
do they drag you to hell anyway if you refuse?
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>>748257425
I'm still going to preorder it, but I'm tired of consolebabs being tortured like this.
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>>748251071
>reddit spacing
>troon melty
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>>748248281
>>748245913
This looks silly. What is with 80s horror getting progressively more comedic with each movie
>Elm street
>Texas chainsaw massacre
>friday the 13th
>countless "cult classics"
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>>748257223
you didn't know that before i told you but it's pretty cool actually

>>748257595
it doesn't actually appear at all in 4 or shattered memories, since both games take place entirely outside of it, or within a dream, and it appears in origins, homecoming and downpour because the devs of those games are hacks that worship sh2 which is why they all have effectively the same story as sh2 (including shattered memories which is shit)
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>>748257967
>progressively more comedic with each movie
Butterball (the fat guy) is straight from the first movie.
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>>748249861
Surprised they can't become infected desu, I bet some of them would be into festering wounds.
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>>748246492
I never thought about this before but advertisers have exposed more children to sex than any legitimate porn site/company
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>>748257578
calling out niggers is based but wanting to see children getting tortured is high level pedophilic jewery, even if they did add it I wouldn't be able to stand it and close the game there's just some lines you can't cross in fiction
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>>748257501
>Leviathan was born at the same time as God
>God being "born"
What absolute garbage
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>>748257967
texas chainsaw massacre is weird as hell right from the first one, and every film afterward is just a remake of the first
if anything they become less comedic and more edgy with time
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>>748249535
>nuanced faction of sadistic freaks should be chaotic evil and do shit at random just because they're le evil
Wow, what a novel and unique idea. You should get into writing with this sort of mindset, you'd really make a splash. Truly an upgrade over what the other anon is suggesting.
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>>748248281
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE!?
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Anyone played/playing the demo in hellraiser difficulty? It highlights how janky the dodge system to me, or i just suck ass with the footwork when dealing with the cultists
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>>748258309
>wanting to see children getting tortured is high level pedophilic jewery
It's supposed to be depicted as a bad thing tho?
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>>748257748
I sneak past them, but they have weapons that seems to help out the next room, most of the time im just speaking past everything but im playing on the hardest difficulty
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>>748248996
>cringe to some, based to others
kek
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>>748258491
Yes, the dolphin games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinkai_Densetsu_Meremanoid
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>>748257967
slasher schlock has always been pretty shit desu
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Children dying in gruesome ways is already accepted in some modern horror movies, it's only sexual violence against them that's still forbidden to be depicted everywhere
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>>748258551
You think that would stop jews jacking off to it?
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>>748258876
So this game is just a high budget porn game then for gorefags to jerk off to?
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>>748255926
Intro cutscene kinda gave it away.. true, true
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Can i play this on my 1080
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>>748253016
>>748237824
Yes
https://youtu.be/zw79RVnlCb0
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>>748254775
I already said this game isn’t about Jews though it’s about hellraiser not pedophilia
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I loved the labyrinth sections. I'm also happy that despite running on UE5, it actually runs well on my 5700X/2060S.
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>>748258952
Yea if that appeals to you
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>>748259107
whats the difference?
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>>748241390
It's Condemned + BioShock.
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>>748250103
I think it's super lame to take the more eldritch mythology of Hellraiser and just turn it into Christian hell like all the shittier sequels do, but I do think Leviathan is just an evil demon thing that loves hurting people.
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>>748256973
Were kiddies ever tortured in the franchise? Idk, I get most real world cultists love to do shit like that, but its hellraiser, I havent seen them do it in the franchise before — because the nature is inherently sexual its more of a grey area than it is with adults
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>>748242398
My anon, they're trying to publish the game on the storefront pages, in what world would that be feasible?
I understand that conceptually you could go anywhere and everywhere but practically you gotta cut some fucked up corners in order to make it commercially available.
Wonder if there will ever be a point in history where you will be able to conceptually and materialized whatever kind of shits you come up with, maybe that's the path with AI being available to consumers and developing their own fucked up fantasies to play for themselves in a safe space.
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>>748259042
>minimum GPU requirement: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660
GPU-wise, yes
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>>748259171
Hellraiser not equal to Jews. Whilst Jews worship satan and kill kids, cenobytes worship neosatan and kill people have a ludosexual crisis, if children fit into that in the franchise IE the chatterer and others then it happens, but the cult not killing children or torturing then for sexual gratification I see more as a grey area matter than a purposeful omission.
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>>748258797
what movie is this? the new VHS?
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>>748256165
Yes obviously games, especially PC games, used to get away with it. The point is it's not allowed now and hasn't been for over 20 years.
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>>748259351
The Chatterer was a kid
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>>748259351
Chatterer was a kid.
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>>748259593
yes
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>>748259862
thank you
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>>748253951
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>>748245584
>Children are innocent
Children are worse people than adults
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>>748252637
Until the movies completely warped the motif behind the Cenobites by the third one, making Pinhead in particular just another slasher villain who wants to seek people to screw over, the Hellbound Heart book and the first two movies had the Cenobites as very cordial demons who only took people that actively sought them out, they weren't looking for random people to rape and fuck over.
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>>748260137
whats a peadophile
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>>748260398
It's like a pedophile, but literate.
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>>748260398
2cunny4u
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>>748260398
A British pedophile. Redundant, I know
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>>748257534
no, that makes perfect sense, leviathan itself is a fallen angel from heaven that obtained godly powers and his minions are fallen humans risen to demonhood, which is why their understanding of pain and pleasure are from a human perspective to begin with.
along with that it lines up with leviathan's war against humanity and man's hubris, his soldiers in the endless war were literally his enemies until their hubris caused them to fall and he converted them
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Retard gaming
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>>748260525
>leviathan itself is a fallen angel from heaven
Unless some of the later movies or the book explain that, I don't think so. The bible certainly doesn't say that.
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>>748260630
that's from the comics, and was implied by the book
and before you say anything thecanonictity of any hellraiser media is weird, the first movie doesn't even really fully line up with the book in a lot of ways
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I downloaded the movies instead.
When do they start to suck?
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>>748260794
>thecanonictity of any hellraiser media is weird
I always believe the book because I like the ending more.
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>>748260863
after 1
2 is like 50% good
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>>748260863
Maybe half way through 2 in my opinion.
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>>748260863
First movie is good.
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>>748260863
Almost at the exact moment in II when Channard becomes a Cenobite.
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>>748260863
After 1, BUT the lore in 2 makes it worth watching. The 2022 reboot looks awesome but the writing isn't great.
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>>748261015
although
>and to think... i hesitated.
is a great line
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>>748256863
I get what you're saying, but they're sensation seeking hedonists, so rape is just unnecessary.
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>>748260863
hellraiser is way more interesting as a concept, the movies are just massively wasted potential
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>>748256863
in the context of what pain and pleasure is to the cenobites they actually rape everyone they meet when you think about it
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>>748260863
Like most horror films from the era it came from the first one is the best and then the rest of the movies all experience a decline in quality
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>>748260525
>fallen angel
>demons
>war against humanity
I hate it. Making the Cenobites Christian demons from Hell is awful. I liked it better when they were weird alien perverts who weird human perverts sought out.

>>748260863
The first two are generally considered good. I don't think the second one is as good as everyone says it is, but It's decent and has cool visuals. Everything after that is usually considered bad, with the exception of five, which isn't really a Hellraiser movie. It's usually considered the best post-two movie. Some people think Judgment is good, but those people have no taste. And the 2022 reboot is decent, which basically makes it a masterpiece compared to most of the other Hellraiser movies.
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>>748253239
>Like why a puzzle box?
It's a barrier for entry, if a fairly low one.
You're bored with pleasures of the flesh.
You hear whispers of a magical puzzle box that when solved will bring angels to grant you sensation beyond your wildest dreams.
You track one down, fiddle with it(the ring of candles is unnecessary but it's a vibe)
You're getting the occasional tingle or zap from it, you're onto something keep going
Somehow it takes you hours to figure out that the circle on one side is a button, and then after that it's fairly simple.

The point is that you're seeking the pleasure, chasing it, HUNGERING for it.
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>>748261078
The scene itself is kino, but it's down to the second the beginning of the end for the early appeal of Hellraiser.
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There are far too many retards in here asking if the game is good like there isn't a free demo out. I don't care if you're if you're ignorant to that fact fucking hope on steam and download the fucking thing and try it..don't watch it on YouTube, don't ask randoms on the internet this question when there is zero excuse to not play it. The only ones who get amnesty from this pointless posts are the poors who can't afford a decent rig in this year of the lord of 2026. Fuck you people are stupid Jesus sure did wept at the amount of retarded faggots on his planet
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what was the movie where pinhead hanged the main girl with chains and materialized some leather belts, mask and corset holding her? That's the only one I saw. I'm I missing out something good?
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>>748245889
>link was purple
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>>748261393
And what if I just want to see Doug Bradley do the voice and fucked up stuff to people, does that keep going for a while?
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>>748261709
found the retarded gay elf
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can a cenobite enjoy regular sex?
or does it always involve you being mutilated and your dick cut off?
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>>748261653
>I'm I missing out something good?
The first one is more of a suspense than a horror, but it's like 60/40 and a hard switch when it happens.
The second is an immediate sequel and more of a traditional horror.
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>>748261719
You'll be increasingly disappointed because as the movies go along they have less and less budget for "fucked up stuff". Hellworld is the worst at this, fittingly because it's also the last.
The reboot doesn't have Doug Bradley and it was made on kind of a TV movie budget, but it's plenty gory and the new Cenobites are less iconic sidegrades of the original crew, so not bad.
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>>748261785
You being mutilated, having your dick cut off and raping you with your own chopped off dick is what they'd consider regular sex.
They barely feel anything from it, they need something more. A lot more.
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>>748261719
He's in the movies up until Revelations. The Cenobites are barely in one, if I remember correctly, and he only has a small role in five.
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>>748261785
yes (no)
even from the first book (in basically the first chapter with frank) the cenobits regard sexual acts as a "base" pleasure and tell frank there are far more stimulating experiences than just that in store
the point is hellraiser is, as a franchise, a vehicle for torturing people, pain is basically the point and clive barker has never made any bones about it
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>>748261785
Most of the people who seek out the box are people who are already bored of regular sex in the first place, let alone the cenobites who have crossed that line by light years
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I hope you guys are getting paid decently. I also hope it's a good game, but that's a different matter.
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>>748261785
The mutilation IS regular sex to a cenobite
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>>748262091
maybe i just like hellraiser, cuck
what do *you* like? complaining? bitching about threads you don't like?
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>>748262091
I know these are shill threads, but at least they're not the typical kinds because the game is for the board's demographic instead of for irritating the board's demographic
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>>748261785
>can a cenobite enjoy regular sex?
They'd get as much out of it as you would get out of being in a room with a woman and getting a shoulder pat from her.
Even if you somehow convinced a female Cenobite to lie down and let you stick your normal dick in her pussy, as soon as it became clear that you had no intention of eviscerating her or something she'd do it to you just to break the boredom.
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>>748261719
Yes, Pinhead keeps doing his speeches for quite a while, in one movie he even becomes a judge, punisher of sinners.
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>>748261785
Final form cenobites don't even feel anything anymore, they've reached full enlightenment.
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>third worlder chomo killed the thread
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>>748244328
The whole thing with the Cenobites is the exploration of sensation and experience to its utmost extreme, sexual pleasure just being one of those things. If you read The Hellbound Heart, it describes what happens when Frank accepts the offer from the Cenobites. His senses are sharpened to the point where even tasting a single droplet of gravy left over in his mouth becomes utterly overwhelming.
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>>748261785
Well probably, they never actually have sex, it's just mutilation, so they've likely never experienced it. All of the cenobite women are virgins.
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>>748248763
yeah, but they only do that once in the book, every single chapter after that is frank basically describing how there was no more pleasure after that, only endless pain as he's reduced to basically a skeleton
i can understand how you came to that conclusion if you only read the first chapter, but every single chapter after that contradicts it
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>>748242398
>The box. You opened it. We came. Now you must come with us, taste our pleasures.
>BUT they must abide by the US age of consent laws
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>>748262875
nta but, worth reading?
consider i dont like novels
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>>748263240
yeah, sure, it's not that long
most of the book is a lady who loved frank killing men to bring him back with their blood, the cenobites are really only in the beginning and the end
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>>748260863
When most movies start to suck, after the first one
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>>748263461
sorry we are wasting space for 1 shill crapcum thread of the 30 you have today
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What causes autism of the particular kind to complain about people enjoying a potential game?
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>>748257748
I just got past that section. You gotta stealth kill all the enemies before taking on the armored guy, otherwise they come in as back up after you kill him. So you gotta stealth kill everyone that it's an option for, and only fight armored enemies.
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>>748263764
It is not buses which call us, it is desire
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>>748252070
The whole point of the box is to seek out hardcore coomers and degenerates. Normalfags are boring to them.
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>>748237535
>blessed by nurgle
>cant feel any sensation
Imagine if a chaos daemon opened thst box
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>>748263764
THE TAPE. YOU REWOUND IT. WE CAME to thank you.
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>>748263764
>You go to take it and open it at home
>theres a letter inside YOU HAVE OPENED THE BOX
Whats your next move?
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>>748264015
Lemarchand created the box to access occult dimensions. You have Silent Hill if you want eternal coomer sex dimension
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>scorn but if it was good
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Is the creepy hobo from the original in?
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>>748249347
Meds
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>>748241246
3rd world ahitstirrers on a perpetually "izzat" crusade to ruin absolutely everything for everyone.
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>>748264205
Cenobites are basically just Slaaneshi demons so nothing would really change
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>>748250472
Is there an English translation for the comic for The Beyond? I remember looking for it some years ago but I wasn't able to find anything.
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>>748263216
It’s very easy to explain. Cenobites are demons essentially which means there are angels. When it comes to spiritual damnation young children are directly protected by god. Not saying children can’t be killed or hurt, but they can’t go to whatever hell the cenobites are

Matthew 18:10: "See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven."
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>>748264709
Eat a gun. I don't think they can do anything to you if you die in the mortal world.
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>>748237535
Fucking great game. I pre-ordered the deluxe edition
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>>748244056
Order is his fetish and Flesh his canvas.
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>>748250472
I don't even know where to look for comics now that this is shut down
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>>748237535
Who told studios that it was a good idea to advertise here?
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>>748245771
Depends on the book/film. In some, yes. In others, if they've been called at all, then they're not leaving until they get their due.
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>>748249702
He wants to make our world into a reflection of the Labyrinth, as ordered and lifeless as he is. The Cenobites aid in this pursuit.
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>>748251057
Then you must come with us. Taste our pleasures.
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>>748252926
>Beyond these walls we can take your pain away
Pinhead lies as easily as he breathes.
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>>748245454
I'm glad there's still a decent number of people who will call out fag shit for what it is. Gay shit is one thing. It's another when it's shoved down your throat degeneracy. The whole "queer" lifestyle is probably just a front for the cenobites.
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>>748253239
Anything can become a Lament Configuration. Leviathan simply REALLY likes the funny little box and considers it the purest expression of the configuration.
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>>748253338
Not that Anon, but I feel the cenobites are best played as utterly agnostic and played to their purpose. Playing them as generic slasher monsters takes away from them. And yes, that means all the films including the first belong in the trash. Unless you interpret it that Kirsty actually secretly wanted it, which makes absolute sense regarding female fantasies.
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>>748266851
Don't they have minions?
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>>748261785
Cenobites are what they are because they've transcended regular pain and pleasure into endless sensation. Normal sex is entirely impossible for them because the sensations wouldn't be enough.
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>>748238185
>Hellraiser if it was made by Japs
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Demo was fun but it started to drag near the end. I thought the whole intro sequence was so fucking good and then it kind of turned into this kinda shitty "stealth" but not stealth game. Melee combat feels terribly and gunplay is fine. I'll probably pick it up since it's so cheap.
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>>748264205
Cenobites are creatures of order so they'd immediately fucking despise Chaos daemons.
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>>748266897
Lesser constructs and cenobites that higher ones direct, yes. You even fight a few of these failed aspirants to the Labyrinth in-game.
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>>748267028
>9-13 convention store
ToT
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>>748248192
Play it now
https://youtu.be/J6rp93cTMWg?t=1049&si=HCPqvPmsbwyHXS9c
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>>748262141
Maybe I just like cuck, hellraiser
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>>748261785
You can find videos on /gif/ where some tranny puts their cock in a meatgrinder and mangles it to the root. The mutilation is the sexual pleasure, and the more depraved and sadistic/masochistic it gets the better. This is a horror franchise written by a gay man (probably unrelated, right?).
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>>748267298
Nah pass, I prefer shemale sounding
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Cenobites and the lament configuration are an allegory for hallucinogens.
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>>748238185
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>>748245538
a literal autist solved it in film 2
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>>748267298
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>>748253094
Yeah the first movie kind of falls apart after the Cenos catch Frank. That was the obvious end point for the story, and with better pacing it would have been.
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>>748237535
I love Hellraiser 1 and 2, and I hope it's one of those cases where the game is a worthy adaptation, like Alien Isolation.
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Will Kirsty and/or Hell Priestess Kirsty be in it?
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>>748263348
I'm thinking about getting the audiobooks of that and The Scarlet Gospel.
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>>748238185
Read the manga
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>>748237535
Haven't played the demo yet but hope its good. I like 1, 2 more than any of the others but Hellseeker is ok because it completes the Kirsty Cotton storyline. 3 is dumb but fun. The rest kinda suck.
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>>748268047
Hope not. That's as silly as Nancy Thomson becoming Fred Krueger.
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>>748237535
I've only watched the first movie but I really liked it. The celobites are very cool and not really that villainous (except for the stupid movie ending but I forgive that)
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>>748244328
After a certain point pain and pleasure become simply sensation
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>>748245290
They only ask if they know you will say yes. Its not really a question.
>t. Expert fetishest
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book engineer > Movie engineer
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>>748253338
Nigga the cenobites arent good or evil they are basically aliens with values that we cant fully understand or empathize with. They are explorers of sensation
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>>748268274
>Nancy Thomson becoming ara pedo
That is not how it works.
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>>748248996
I was in that thread
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>Focus, P
>Hm, that box looks familiar
>maybe I should check out that box
>Achievement unlocked: Carved like a Thanksgiving Turkey - Defeat Butterball
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>>748254172
It feel so modern game, it hurts.
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>>748253481
Buy 20 copies, treat yourself homes
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>>748260137
>pontyprid
Small world, I wont cry over it
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>>748259760
>>748259783
Remembered later.. true true
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>>748242398
Some people simply do not want to animate child gore you know.
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>>748268274
Honestly, id be so stoked if freddy showed up in my dream. Id try steal his power for my own. Same for the cenobites. Id immediately become some type of lovecraftian nightmare far beyond their control or comprehension
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>>748268339
Indivisible, if you will.
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>>748249076
....Jesus I never thought of it like that
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>>748268047
I found a drawing of tranny pinhead in game, I forget where. I think in the living area after you get the pistol? So she's either canonical or it's just an easter egg.
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>>748269575
>Like a Hot Knife Through Butthair - Get a sneak attack on Butterball
>The Bigger They Are, The Butter They Ball -Make Butterball fall with a tripwire
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>>748270570
Most people don't like every part of their job. It's why you get paid money to do it.
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>>748244018
>>>/a/
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>>748271089
...like what? You never thought about the plot of the movie the way it was deliberately presented to you?
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>>748271381
No I mean I knew he was a bit of a freak but I never put that much thought into what kind of shit Frank was into that drove him to seek out the Cenobites
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>>748271173
Kek
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one funny part of the demo thinking back was at the very beginning where the guy in the full gimp suit is just chillin in his car outside aiden and sonny's house waiting for them to fuck their shit up.
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Why the FUCK are the graphics and visual presentation for this game so damn good
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>>748271456
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>>748271671
Satan.
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>>748245771
>So what happens if you say no? They will just leave?
Kind of.
They're prank-call-tier pissed. Like, "wtf, man, don't call us for sensation beyond imagination if you don't want it, retard." While the cenobites are more ushers than anything else.
It only devolves into torture porn after the 1st novella (mostly 1st movie too). The story is more of a bad acid trip than a gore fest, and they're pissed at Frank, the escapee, because he's a whiny little bitch that's wasted their time and energy who shouldn't have left.
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console demo when?
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>>748258369
>every film afterward is just a remake of the first
Not necessarily. Yeah, they generally more or less follow the same plot formula but there's still a lot of differences between the first film and the others that followed afterward. For one thing, the second movie was more of a dark comedy than straight up horror. Fuck, the poster for the movie was literally a straight up parody of The Breakfast Club. The excessive gore and shit really didn't come into play until the second movie either. There was a fair amount of blood in the first movie but a lot of the more gruesome shit like one of the characters being hung up on a meat hook and another dude being sawed up by Leatherface were shot in a way that you couldn't really see the more gory aspects.
It's kind of like how the first Rambo was more of a drama about a Vietnam vet with PTSD going apeshit where a grand total of one dude actually dies (by complete accident I might add) while in contrast the sequels turn Rambo into a Hollywood action hero who kills dudes by the hundreds in increasingly bloody and gory ways.
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>>748251168
Julia was pretty good again, both in the Frank suit and otherwise
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>>748271671
Devs give a shit
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>>748243079
The entities are obsessed with sexual suffering. If you have no concept of what sex is, they're not interested.
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>>748271767
*Leviathan

Ftfy
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>>748271303
ok
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>>748239319
They say this about old games too, if you discuss about any games here you get called shill
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>>748272074
You bought the gaming equivalent of the puzzle cube. You deserve your sweet agony.
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>>748269732
Yeah. This. Refunded. I expect that my main enjoyment will be the set pieces and maybe the story if it's decent. Plan to get it later on sale.
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>>748245913
Butterball is the coolest cenobite
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am i the only one who was disappointed? presentation was phenomenal but im not excited to play another stealth cover shooter game with braindead patrolling NPCs.
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Does it have path tracing support?
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>>748274429
The demo has no raytracing at all.



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