How did Nintendo bounce back from the Wii U mess while Playstation and Xbox just keep digging their own graves? This was unthinkable 10 years ago.
>xbox killing itself was unthinkable 10 years agoAre you fucking retarded? They had already done it.
Nintendo didn't cut corners in game development like they others. they were simply smaller and didn't have the resources for bigger games. Now games are too big and Nintendo has only grown a bit, they are lean and healthy while the competition are fat and spent.
>>748243107Nintendo is immensely slow to adapt and change with the times and also incredibly stubborn, and while in the past this was a huge problem for them (remember that they jumped on the cart of "multyplayer shooter" almost a decade after it reached its peak) it also protects them from these fads (like live services) that sweep the entire industry, unless they are themselves the source, like the Wii and motion controls.
>>748243107I'm so tired of seeing this image
>>748243107actually making games and keeping it on their platform
fuck off already
>>748243107
Can you shut the fuck up. You've been making Nintendo fanboy threads with this image for days now.
>>748243107They didnt need to. Even without the 3ds the wii u made them money and the silver lining is it had good games on it that most people didnt buy so they just ported them over to the system people actually bought. The reason the switch 2 lineup seems weak is they can pad out the release schedule with switch to switch 2 upgrades/rereleases, but everyone already played those games
>>748246736Okay snoy
>>748246510Kek
>>748243107Wiiu was bad marketing
>>748243107Nintendo is a 150 year old toy company beloved all over the world. Sony is a cd player. Microsoft makes computers.
From around 2007 to 2018ish a PS or Xbox was very desirable if only for netflix and web browsing. It was your entertainment center. Now smart TVs naturally do all of this so consoles wete forced to show their worth on their game offerings alone and that wasn't enough anymore.
>>748246736>PC vegans getting angry at people making fun of Xbox and PS
>>748243107Nintendo never had anything to bounce back from, the DS and 3DS were both fantastic. The Switch is their successor, not the Wii U's.
>>748247638the fuck does pc have to do with this nigger?
>>748247762That's what I was asking you
>>748243107crawled out of the wii u mess only to end up in a switch 2 shitshow! lmao
They still focused on making great games, even the Wii U had them.The Xbone? lmao
These threads are just bait to try and make retards here actually believe the Great Tendie Menace is real.
>>748243107Granted, as bad as the Wii U was, they still came out of it making a profit. Nintendo tends to keep their budgets reasonable, and don't hinge their entire success on AAA projects that HAVE to make record breaking sales or completely sink the company like a lot of developers are doing these days.They also rarely, if ever, do mass layoffs so their employees are more likely to put effort into it instead of not caring because they might get shunted out of the company any day now anyways.
>>748244632>Nintendo didn't cut corners.>Pokemon>Pic relatedIt's the same fucking game re-released but with dlc. Also most Switch games are just Wii U games being re released on the Switch.
they have gaems
>>748243107The Switch benefited immensely from the WiiU being a monumental flop. Nintendo was intentionally holding onto good games while they released halfassed filler for 2015 and 2016, which led to Nintendo's 2017 line-up everyone is so in love with. And the Switch used WiiU ports as release padding for the entire lifecycle of the Switch, and they all sold amazingly despite being full price because most people never played them in the first place.Now the Switch 2 is relying on Switch 1 games with paid patches and expansions, and it's not successful at all. They are all games that people already played, and the benefits aren't worth the money.
>>748243107>didn't betray their japanese customer base unlike Playstation>they even went as far as to help their home audience by introducing the japanese-only model in order to keep prices low as possible in the wake of the shit economy (albeit the AI-pocalypse had to force their hand)>didn't blindly follow the graphics race since diminishing returns were bound to hit hard as they do nowadays>they don't bloat their studios with useless employees, didn't buy whole studios (outside of Monolith Soft) only to shut them down later>managed to release about +50 games (Mario, Pikmin, Famicom Detective, Xenoblade, Bayonetta, Metroid, etc.) in the span of 10 years when the other big companies have been struggling to release at least a single game per year>they also got a strong third-party support over the past few years to the point it can make other platforms redundant to have depending where your personal tastes in games lie>>748248632>Now the Switch 2 is relying on Switch 1 games with paid patches and expansions, and it's not successful at all.lollmao even
>>748248854>>didn't blindly follow the graphics race since diminishing returns were bound to hit hard as they do nowadaysSwitch 2 is just a graphical upgrade over Switch. there's nothing else there. It's easily Nintendo's least interesting console from a hardware perspective.
>>748248968So like the snes
>>748249441SNES had a way better controller than the NES, so much so that its layout is still at the core of every mainstream controller used today.
>>748243107>Tendie faggot engagement bait shill threadPalworld won btw
>>748248968It's a strong and capable hybrid machine with a nice set of current-gen tech like DLSS, a faster file decompression system and else, and it has proven to be capable in running demanding titles like Monster Hunter Wilds, Dragon's Dogma 2, Elden Ring, Stellar Blade, etc. with virtually no downgrades for the average consumer. But my point you've quoted is that graphics haven't evolved much since the PS4 era and that it was fate for smaller and portable hardware to catch up quickly against their stationary counterparts.
>Palslop out of nowherelol
>>748249639So like the Switch 2? The Joy Con 2 has mouse controls even
lookie at what just got announced for the Switch 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIdzplCp-o
>>748249892>But my point you've quoted is that graphics haven't evolved much since the PS4 era and that it was fate for smaller and portable hardware to catch up quickly against their stationary counterparts.It wasn't fate that Microsoft ended up hobbling the whole generation with the Series S, but it certainly helped the Switch 2's fortunes.
>>748250074Mouse controls are kind of a crap gimmick and there's little software that uses them. Joycon 1 motion controls were more significant, and those were largely recycled from the Wii.
>>748249892>with virtually no downgrades for the average consumer.Consumers started giving a shit about performance ever since the PS5 made 60fps standard, with most players preferring better performance. The PS5 Pro's marketing emphasised that it could sustain 60fps with fewer compromises. Most Switch 2 ports are quite compromised in that regard even if they look decent in stills. But I agree with your overall point. It can handle ports of most games for the time being.
>>748250643>ever since the PS5 made 60fps standardlol
>>748250643>Consumers started giving a shit about performance ever since the PS5 made 60fps standard, with most players preferring better performance.The crowd that is pretty vocal online about performance (similarly graphic fidelity too) and regularly watches Digital Foundry's videos for instance is pretty niche though, people at large are not going to care that much about framerate unless it's regularly running at 20 and below. I don't think GTA6 running at 30fps is that much of backlash either, although it's kinda funny how OoT remake is running a revamped BotW engine at 60fps with a graphic fidelity similar to UE5 on a hybrid console ten times smaller than a PS5 and at 10% the wattage too.And I won't argue that the PS5 version of certain games look and run better, such as Pragmata or Onimusha for instance, but the Switch 2 is good enough for the average person too. It's nowhere like the Playstation Vita that had to make far more obvious compromises to run home console titles back in the day (like the PS4-era games from Gust/Koei Tecmo).
>>748251593>The crowd that is pretty vocal online about performance (similarly graphic fidelity too) and regularly watches Digital Foundry's videos for instance is pretty niche thoughThe quoted statistics show that a wide majority of players care about that stuff, given the choice. >t's nowhere like the Playstation Vita that had to make far more obvious compromises to run home console titles back in the day (like the PS4-era games from Gust/Koei Tecmo).You can draw a straight line from the PSP through to the Switch 2 of successively less compromised portable ports of home console games.
>>748243107Nintendo didn’t chase the ball and gun audience
>>748243107The Wii U was the last soulful Nintendo console.
>jeetendo faggots seething their izzat has collectively gone into the negativesSaar the palGODs can't stop winning saarhow will we ever competeSAAR YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
>>748251885
The image that killed Nintendorks
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>>748252075How did Xi do it?
>>748252075not looking good for PlayStation...
>>748252075>revenue
>>748252075If Microsoft is doing so well how come they have to shut down Ninja Theory
>>748243264God it really has been 13 years since Xbox as a household brand fucking died
>>748243264XBOX GO HOME
>>748252308>>748252389Its funny you fags can never explain why its bad, revenue literally shows what people give their money to and whats popular
>>748252575you keep getting it explained to you but you just seethe and cry
>>748252575Revenue less expenses equals profitI'll let you figure out why this is relevant. I'm not teaching you anything beyond this equation.
>>748243107They just focused on making games. Sony and MS focused on making anything but video games
>>748252767Pay the stakeholders tendie
>>748252636>explains nothingGreat contribution champ
>>748252868Pay the stakeholder PC vegan
>>748252947>PC veganI thought I was Eric?
>>748252935>please teach me how finance worksNo.
>>748247671That hasn't been true since the Wii.Even 3DS had glasses free 3D that want widely available at the time and Wii U had cutting edge streaming with negative latency.When Switch launches it had the best mobile SoC on the market.
>>748253002Don't feel bad, I just got called a tendie when I'm an idort.
>>748252075People don't realise that SONY could liquidate PlayStation tomorrow and still be worth BILLIONS because they pretty much own anime outside of Japan and have the highest grossing superhero (spiderman) under their belt.
>>748253150And yet somehow they can't afford toilet paper
>>748253112kys snoytendievegan
>>748248632>Fastest selling console of all time>not successful at allRetard.Also, Switch 2 has more exclusives than Switch 1 had at this point and Switch 1 ports were never treated as big deal. They just exist for people who haven't played them before
>>748253004>more nothingness of a comment just wasting his own time
ding ding ding ding ding come get it piggies come get your daily ai generated fallenchungus slop thread
>>748253263Snoys live in some twisted reality where the Switch 2 is failing and Snoy isn't actively killing themselves
>>748253280>more nothingness of a comment just wasting his own time
>>748253263>Also, Switch 2 has more exclusives than Switch 1 had at this point I remember when you tards claimed that the switch 1 had exclusives because wii u ports might as well be considered exclusives since no one had a wii u. Now suddenly it no longer has exclusives just so you can shill the switch 2Look, I don't care, I have 0 reason to get one right now because no matter how hard I look at it, it has no fucking games>inb4 the retard posts a list of android tier toddler games and enhanhed switch 1 ports
>>748252075>Snoys are cheering for Playstation fucking them in the ass with price hikesUtterly inhuman.
>>748253559Enough about Valve
>>748253513>Cope and seetheTake your meds.
>>748253484hes really upset that the "LOOK AT DUH REBENUE" doesn't work on anyone with an IQ above room temperature
Bro is replying to himself now
>>748253603?steam sales are still common and there's no fee to use steammeanwhile sony keeps taking a fat dump on the people stupid enough to buy playstations
>>748253749Sure.
>>748248968The Switch is already a winning idea and design. The only problem was that it wasn't even powerful enough to sustain ports of games that it was suited for.The Switch 2 is a modestly powered console but powerful enough to run many games with a 30-40 FPS compromise without looking like a meme like the original Switcher 3 port.
>>748243107smiple, they did nothing and won.snoy and microsoft became too busybody.
>>748253862Valve raised hardware costs and refused to sell at a loss
>>748250643>>748251593While performance matters to me (and is why I have a PC), the biggest problem the Switch 2 has solved is general availability. There used to be a time when fun but light weebshit like Muramasa Rebirth was on Playstation only. Now all the RE games, Trails, and Muramasa are on Switch 2 as well.Extra performance is great, but stability and good picture >>>>> framerate for non-action games.
>>748253862Surprised he didn't mention it earlier, must have used every bit of restraint he had
>>748252075I don't see how higher revenue in this list means I get better games and platforms.
>>748253046You don't know what lateral thinking with withered technology means. The Wii and 3DS were cheap and innovative uses of existing technology.
>>748243107Hey look the obese pedophile posted it again
>>748251997Damnshitendo is LOSING that hard huh?
>>748254691so you admit that Snoys are indians.
>>748254549>>748254691>>748247638
>>748243107By not being retarded and not overspending on game projects. The WiiU was a mistake on multiple levels. From the naming sense and gaming form, it was a failure. They were also spread too thin with having a portable handheld as well, which was starting to take more time to make games for. They went with the smartest route by combing their handheld and console division into one. Nintendo since then have been dealing with the benefits of having a portable console. Meanwhile the Xbox has been mismanaged for more than a decade now, and Sony has been chasing the live service trend only to fail. Plus, their games are now too expensive to make and taking forever to develop. I don't see their output getting any better for the PS6, you be lucky to get one game per year at this rate from their first party studios. Both the new Xbox and PS6 will be expensive as fuck estimated to be around 1K to buy. Nintendo already won the console war for the next decade.
>>748243264fucking this
>>748253918Funny the post wasn't directed at anyone yet you replied
>>748255460Sure.
>>748253638get cancer and die faggot
>>748253484>xbotyikes
>>748255780Sure.
>>748250643With the Switch dock now having VRR, it won't be much of a problem for devs to leave the framerate unlocked. Games like Resident Evil and Pragmata will benefit it.
