>tfw my favorite video game series is still good and healthyFeels nice, gotta say.
>>748256046Metroid dark age is over. Even the mediocrity of MP4 could not end this.
Rank 'emDread>ZM>Fusion>Super>SR>II>I
>I will survive. And I will make it home. I really hope they actually show Samus' house.
>>74825604613 years between 2D Metroids and 19 between non-remakes but yeah, it's back.
>>748256046I'd have preferred the series to die with prime 3, we've gotten nothing but garbage since.
>>748256754>5 years between Dread and Ravenous is widely considered to be unbelievable Wild to think we're suddenly getting more consistent releases.
>>748256754Metroid gotten more new games in five years than Zelda has gotten in a decade
play NEStroid, cowards
>>748257078No? Three new games each.
>>748256987A funny thing I realized is that Ravenous is basically the first proper direct sequel in the 2D series. 2 was on the GB and pretty different to 1 on the NES, Super was also completely different to 2, as was Fusion to Super and Dread to Fusion. But Ravenous is running in the same engine and even reusing assets. The Dread Varia suit is actually how I realized this. It's the first time they actually just reuse a design completely.
Sex with balls
>>748256046This is a very cute drawing.
>>748257361Huh. Good point. And hey, the Dread Varia Suit is still sick as hell. Might as well. To be honest, I never understood how we all gaslit ourselves into believing that asset reuse is somehow a bad thing. Got perfectly good models already made, that's money and time saved right there.
>>748257283SR was unironically more of new game than TotK was
>>748257394There are many cute drawings of Samus.
>>748257260It's such a cool game but the meager HP on spawn is BULLSHIT. I will play it with save states and have zero shame about it.
Ravenous isn't called Metroid 6 because Dread was the end of the Metroid saga, iirc.
>>748256638This. Her money has to go somewhere other than helping orphan kids in need on shithole planets. We need to see Samus off-time beyond one stinking old gallery CG in a bar.
>>748257361>It's the first time they actually just reuse a design completely.Isn't it for the first few scenes? The snek cutscene in the trailer we see the new Ravenous Varia suit with new chest led shapes
>coolest suit upgrade is a fucking viral infection>>>blue radioactive parasytical substance turns a purple suit blackExcuse me?
>>748258638I especially want to see the collective reaction to her glorified shack out in the boonies. Like, damn bitch, you live like this? Girl.
How would anons feel if we had a 2D metroid but instead of one world, it's Samus taking on missions on different worlds instead? Think Rockman Zero with how there's a camp for Samus to interact with when not on missions.
>>748258724>red and black>has a subtle blue aura Goddamn the Phazon Suit is sick. But, alas, it's the edgy suit borne of a cursed power, so we don't get to keep it. ... Wait.
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>>748256046>most of Nintendo's franchises have fallen to the wayside as they consolidate into the AAA thing of expensive supergames that take 6+ years to develop>and yet somehow Metroid of all things is thrivingmy goodness, how things have changed over the last decadewhat a time to be alive
>>748256964Nice bait
>>748256046>hungyQuirk Chungus reddit lingo needs to fucking die off
The fact that we got an outright flip forward to Rider Kick reference gives me hope that they're gonna give us a short Samus suit up into power suit henshin scene without saying anything
>>748259168Right? Fuckin' weird, but I'm not complaining. Metroid continues to be normal video games. Well, you could argue that Beyond tried to do the AAA thing, but it very visibly did not work, and Nintendo seems to have said "Yeah fuck that.". Prime 5 will likely return to form.
>>748256046Should probably give one of the games a shot. I've played metroidvanias before but not the genre namer before. Where should I start?
>>748259696>Where should I start?Zero Mission, Prime 1, Super.
>>748259602as much as I don't care for the soldiers, why the fuck would Samus just leave them, hang some ornament on a tree, think mission accomplished now this dead race memory lives on or some shit, and fuck off?
>>748259437Calm down NEET
Why does Samus look like a human if she came from a bird?
>>748256251No need, you hit the nail on the head.
>>748260114The inner workings of Tanabe's brain are an enigma
>>748260243She was a human, raised by birds after her parents were killed, had bird DNA alteration, learned their language, learn to move and fight,. Then the birds who raised her were killed. Why do you think Ridley is supposedly her nemesis
>>748260114Something something teleporter blah blah. I honestly couldn't tell you. Samus could just beat Sylux's punk ass real quick, really.
>>748260434At least Nintendo finally got sick of his shit.
>>748259984Super > Zero Mission > Prime 1/2/3 > SR > Fusion > Dread > Ravenous
>>748260495Right? If a couple of human soldiers were able to restrain revived sylux for a minute, I am sure fucking Samus with upgrades could just shove her blaster in his face and quickly end him and take the soldiers away too?
>>748260495yeah, I think on some level I'm gonna have to think of Prime 4 the same way that I think of Other M, yeah I can accept that it's broad strokes canon but the shit in it is so stupid that I have to at least partially ignore itthere's no way real Samus would run away like that at the end and let everyone else sacrifice themselves for her, Sylux is just a chump (and more importantly a problem that needs a violent solution)
>>748260482>Why do you think Ridley is supposedly her nemesisGoddammit, that is something that got seriously lost in all the discourse. Samus explicitly names Ridley as her nemesis, and the script just... never explains why. Fundamental failure of basic storytelling. Fuckin' Awkward Zombie did this shit better. Well, I understand, if you explain why Samus has beef with Ridley, you'd actually have to mention the Chozo, which is unacceptable apparently. Never mind this is allegedly a story about Samus' past, we're just not going to mention the part about how she was raised by aliens! ... Fuck this game is dumb.
Still no Switch 2 patch for Metroid Dread. Grim. That would have been an obvious way to advertise the last game to get people excited for Ravenous.
>>748260114The director thought of the ending to Prime 4 before anything else and wanted it by any means necessary.The silver lining to Prime 4 being1: Nintendo probably understands by now that Samus can't be overly expressive or robotic and that Samus fights through her own fears.2: We will never see those feds ever again because there's no way Sylux didn't paint the walls with their viscera.3: Beyond did so little with Sylux's character that there's still tons of room for his character to be developed and explored in Prime 5.4: Nintendo will contact Retro from the start this time instead of fucking around with Bamco.
>>748260908Could drop the week before the Ravenous overview trailer, could be 5 years from now, Nintendo is weird.
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>>748257260Not going to play it because of that AI slop pic
>>748260995The SA-X doujin is the best one.
>>748257260>Posting blatant slop in a Metroid thread.At least make good A.I pictures.
>>748260908d-dyou think nintendo will throw poorfags a bone and release a Switch 1 version for Ravenous, haha... ;_;
>>748260995YES PLUMBING
>>748260908Still hope after Ravenous suddenly shot Dread up to #1 on eShop. >"Oh shit, people are buying this game again. Quick, port it!">>748260938>The director thought of the ending to Prime 4 before anything else and wanted it by any means necessary.But that ending fundamentally makes no sense. >1: Nintendo probably understands by now that Samus can't be overly expressive or robotic and that Samus fights through her own fears.It is really damn weird hot unexpressive Samus is in this game. Like, yeah, she didn't talk in Corruption either, but at least there, she wasn't actively traveling with the other hunters.
>>748261119Dread suffered from retarded long loading times on Switch 1, they don't have the RAM to build on that while still running vaguely okay on Switch 1.
>>748259168To be fair look at what’s going on lately: Zelda went way too out of formula with BOTW and then doubled down with TOTK. People are starved and went crazy for a remake of Ocarina of Time.Pokemon stagnated as has for years. Digimon had Time Strangers while most Pokemon got were leaks showing what they intended it to be but repeatedly failed to become.Metroid used its flaws at Other M for more action in the Metroid 2 remake which was polished in Dread and now they went all-in all the cool movements in a trailer. After losing all hope in Metroid Prime 4, people got exactly what they wanted with Ravenous.The list goes on.
>>748261230>Metroid used its flaws at Other M for more action in the Metroid 2 remake which was polished in DreadThis is something I will always respect. Never toss good ideas away just because a bad entry did it. The Melee Counter and more dynamic combat were absolutely worth salvaging.
Silksong set the bar really high. I really dont think Ravenous can surpass it.
Melee counter good.Sliding good.Free aim good.Aeion flash goooooooooooooooood.
>>748261583This is correct. Shmovin'!
>>748261180Samus was expressive enough in Corruptions.>gives a thumbs up to Admiral Dane as she flies by, her transmission to the fleet is simply "Mission Complete">Samus mourning the hunters who died to Metroid Prime actually feels earnt and makes sense as a bittersweet conclusion to the series
>>748259437as opposed to your lingo?>b-b-b-but muh cult...cancer
>>748261924I'm also a big fan of the little exchange between Samus and Dane, where they give each other a little nod of understanding. But yeah, in Beyond, it would've made sense for her to actually say something every now and then, but she just doesn't.
>>748261924Don't forget her puking after getting Phazon Missiles.
>>748262094Prime gif material.
>>748256046>Counter slop>Good and healthyLol
>>748256046>>748256235Interesting How Metroid fared somewhat better in another parties hands.
>>748262094>>748262640Something I appreciate about Samus is that despite her reputation as an unstoppable badass, she's not invincible. She often takes real hits and is shown to be fallible. Her victories feel earned because she clearly works for it.
>>748261583Facts. They fixed the counter in Dread by allowing movement during it, and Samus has never been as fluid as she is in it. Flash Shift getting upgraded in Ravenous has my hype.
>how do continue with the series>give it more parrying action
>>748260995Would Samus be into consensual anal?
>>748259151>Other m in aLol
>>748256046Metoid HungyThenMetoid BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP
>>748263102>it goes vertical now>they somehow made it better... Listen. I'm gonna real. The Flash Shift is easily top five best abilities. I want this to be in all future titles. I need them to put in both 2D and 3D. I don't think I can go back.
>>748260598What about other m
>>748263404What ABOUT Other M?
>>748261541We're discussing metroid-likes. Silksong is about 15 hours too long and tries too hard to be souls. Plus the reddit art style doesn't help.
>>748261065I personally prefer the one with Samus and her shota dogboy maid. Same author too.
this is the best one
Now that the dust has settled what went wrong with Metroid
>>748263934that's not joey
>>748263097>all that blue shit she just hurledGod that must've hurt like a motherfucker.
Are people really excited for ravenous after dread was a disappointment
>>748264635>t. got triggered by the emmis.
>>748256046If only mercury steam spent as much time making their game good instead of shilling it on here
>>748264707>Counter slop>Shitty meme abilities >Reddit chungus writing>Le Samus I am your fatherGarbage
>>748263234Other M is awesome
>>748260836I think they don't really talk about Samus and Ridley's rivalry in-game because that aspect of the story came in surprisingly late. Ridley started off as just another Space Pirate croney and Samus had 0 relations to the Chozo. The Super Metroid Nintendo Power tie-in comic was the first time they established Samus' backstory as an orphan raised by Chozo, but then the Zero Mission prequel manga took that story and also intertwined it with Ridley's history, which by then was post-Fusion post-Prime 1. By that point all the other stuff like Phazon, the Federation and the Metroids were more important, along with being the point in history where Samus was way past her trauma and Ridley's another chump to deal with.
>>748265317Then why did she freak out so much in other m
>>748265769cuz uhhh idk ptsd and stressful environment or somethingLook there's a reason it's one of the most criticized moments of that entire game.
>>748261583>Free aim good.false. Diagonals are objectively superior
>>748256046The only thing I wish they fix is to stop cutting off where you just came from after getting a new ability. That really got my goat throughout all of Dread.
>>748265892it's not
>>748264635The mainstream consensus on Dread was that it was arguably the best Metroid game to date.
>>748266321>instant snap to a 45* angle>circlepad was dogshit and the joycon sticks dont have enough resistance to feel natural for aimingwrong
when will they announce preorder bonuses that arent charging me $120 for the game and the amiibo? I still have my mug from walmart when dread released, I want other stuff
>>748266364you're wrong
>>748266498not an argument
>>748266548being a faggot isn't either yet here you are
>>748261490Agreed
>Samus is able to destroy planets.>Jobs out in some bullshit Marvel cutscene.
>>748264627She just vomited enough Phazon to likely power up an entire stock of Hyper Beam
>>748266815Samus has never been able to destroy a planetPlanets just happen to get destroyed whenever she's nearby...
>>748266815Haven't played Prime yet, how did she destroy a planet there?In the 2D games there's always some kind of built in base kill switch that does it
>>748266815>>748267039The only planets she's directly responsible for the destruction of are SR388 in Fusion and *technically* Phaze in Prime 3.It can easily be assumed that Mother and Raven Beak destroyed Zebes and ZDR respectively with a dead man's switch.
>>748266815Samus is like the dirty pair, she doesn't mean to destroy planets most of the time, it just kinda happens
>>748256046replaying dread in 4k and it really is a masterpiece
>>748267176If Phaaze counts, Dark Aether counts (if we're including alternate dimensions)
>>748267176Phaaze is less of a planet and more of an Eldritch horror. Hell I'm not entirely convinced its truly dead.>>748267260Kei and Yuri in Metroid would invite no end to shenanigans.
>>748266815>Noooooo, having the hero be fallible is bad! Powerscaling ruined fiction. She's gonna get the runback, because that's what good stories do. >>748267176>>748267283I was about to say. Dark Aether was very deliberate on her part. drained that fucker of energy piece by piece until it imploded.
Samus has killed BILLIONS
>>748261583I like how the Flash Shift was not only the only Aeion ability they showed in the Ravenous trailer, but also how they made it even better. Really paints a picture that they know it's the best Aeion abilty by far
>>748267351Speaking of Kei and Yuri, I can't help but feel like Samus is one of the last of the 'cool space babes'. Am I crazy? I swear that used to be a very popular thing, but it just kind of isn't anymore.
>>748267553Dude, it's one of the best Metroid abilities, full stop. It's literally an anime flash step. Again, I NEED this thing to be in all future titles.
>>748267684If it's the only Aeion ability that comes back, I would not be mad at all
>>748267684WHY CANT THIS GAME BE 20 HOURS LONGER? WHY IS STUPID SHIT LIKE SNOOZE KNIGHT SO FUCKING LONG AND BORING WHILE METROIDKINO HAS TO END SO EARLY REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>748267585has samus ever lost to the pokecock?
>>748260114I'm pretty sure that someone from the team read the Metroid Prime 2 manga and wanted to do something similar, and yeah, read the MP2 manga, is very good!
>>748263285Hot plz on my face samus
>>748267585>badass heroine who singlehandedly destroys evil armies>has soft spot for crittersSamus got the gap moe going on, and it's the best thing.
>>748267798Yeah, you can tell. This is the second time they've tried to crib from one of the the mangas and fucked it up. Also, why are there so many Metroid mangas? And why are they good?
Okay I don't want another Prime. (Unless it's Hunters 2)But can we get prime 2 and 3 Switch 2 ports in 4k please?
>>748268007Best you're getting is Prime 2 on NSO
What next, a Samus and Joey game?
>you will never be trapped in samus's belly and have to escape it like a zelda dungeon
>>748267853Where's her bulge
>>748268104She's not trans.
>>748268083Samus is the best thing about the Captain N comic and it's not even close.
>>748268150And? You think all the weird stuff she got shoved inside her didn't give her a cock? You think raven beak didn't give her a cock almost as big as his?
>>748268083>>748268204Funny that that was the first time she was blonde
>>748268204in reality, she loses to the big tentacle cocks
>>748256046We will get Ravenous next year, hopefully the remake of Super Metroid doesn't sucks, Prime 5 will happen, and so are the Prime 2 and 3 remasters, the problem is in which order you release all that shit?
>>748268547Probably the Super remake next to keep everyone in good graces after Ravenous, because hey, it might be another remake, but not only is it remaking one of their best games, but also they probably still think it's smart to cool off on Prime for a little bit
>>748261583Meat? Good.
>>748261583NOOOOOOOOOOOO WE NEED LESS PERFECT METROID GAMEPLAY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>748267746Pulse radar will most likely come back since it was in Samus Returns and Dread, and I'm sure they'll have new aeon abilities or bring back the SR abilities.
>>748268547My being at all impressed by a Super remake is contingent on the other part of the rumor that it's pixel art, and it seems like the least plausible thing about it.
>>748263628For me it was the fact a lot of paths were either worthless shortcuts or straight up dead ends with not even health/ammo upgrades to pick up, sometimes with a really annoying mini bosses to deal with as well that ALSO drop nothing.Not properly rewarding/actively punishing exploration like Silksong did is a capital offence in this genre, yet everybody praised it like it was the second coming of The Radiance.
>>7482562352D Metroid is thriving but the dark age for 3D Metroid continues.
>>748269234good
>>748269016Yeah, they're already making the arm cannon a machine gun normally, so no need for the Beam Burst, and they seem to be eschewing the stealth angle, so no Phantom Cloak (thank God). Kinda wonder if they will keep it to just the Scan Pulse and Flash Shift, since SR had four Aeion pwoers, and then Dread only had three
>>748269269the Dread Suit is so fuckin good, it's right up there with the Dark Suit for me, I love the exposed muscle fiber look
>Samus using a bladeI just now realized something. If they call this thing the Narpas Sword, I'm gonna laugh my fucking ass off.
>>748269374Holy fuck, why didn't I think of that. They already referenced Justin Bailey in Samus Returns too
>>748269282Lightning armor and phase drift can come back but I doubt it and Honestly I rather they have flash shift and pulse radar be the only aeion abilities in the game
>>748269374Oh shit
>>748269269my space hunter waifu cant be this fucking cute
>>748269506I want Phase Drift and Speed Booster in the same game
>>748269825They could make crazy shine puzzles with that combo
>>748256046>tfw my favorite video game series are shit but beloved by normies so they will only get worseIt sucks being a Cap-cuck right now.
>>748269890resident evil is the last great AAA /v/ coded IP thoughever
>>748269506What IS the overall opinion of Phase Drift anyway? I thought it was neat, if underutilized. >>748269890... Monster Hunter?
>>748257361Which is why it's the first time it's not officially called Metroid 6 anywhere.It's not Metroid 6, literally. It's an expansion pack to Metroid 5 that either continues the story more directly, or serves as bridge/prologue to something new.That new thing will actually be called Metroid 6.
>>748270028I just saw it as a compensation for not having the Speed Booster
>>748269964>>748270028Thanks for posting the two examples I was thinking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJPUp0PpeIsListen to my slop
>>748270028>What IS the overall opinion of Phase Drift anyway?I didn't hate it but it felt useless and was made only for missile/aeion/e-tank puzzles>I thought it was neat, if underutilizedIt really was especially considering that it could've been used for a boss fight
>>748270127uwot
>>748270127Well, Mega Man 12 looks good. >>748270193Right? I'm really surprised they never used it for a boss fight. Could've used it to spice up the Queen Metroid fight or something.
>>748270221We appreciate tired blondes here.
748261541
>>748259696Metroid Planets (faithful-ish fan remake of 1).Then Metroid 2 (don't be a bitch, it's fine without a map).Then Super (3).Then you can either play Fusion (4) or play Zero Mission (1 remake) or play AM2R in any order.Then you play Samus Returns.Then Dread and Ravenous.Prime is optional, but you should definitely try it. Either emulate the Prime Trilogy Collection with the Wiimote or use the Prime Hack if you don't have one. Remastered on Switch is an option as well.If you liked Prime 1, then play Hunters, then 2, 3, and 4, but you're free to stop at any time. Prime Federation Force I think is completely skippable, but it's not a terrible game, really.Keep in mind that 1-3 happens between Metroid 1 and 2 (yes, all of them), while Prime 4 is after Super.Finally you can check out Other M for morbid curiosity's sake.
>>748270275>Could've used it to spice up the Queen Metroid fight or somethingor the diggernaut fight
>>748258586You know that enemies in harder zones drop more health, right?>5 health per drop in Brinstar>10 health per drop in Norfair>20 health per drop in each Hideout>30 health per drop in Tourian If you just carefully proceed forward and kill every enemy, you'll pretty quickly recover your health without ever needing to stop and grind unless you end up at a boss door with low health (in which case, git gud).
>>748270395Also advise you to read the Metroid manga before you play the series or at least before you play Zero Mission.
>>748270578>DiggernautGriefing prick.
>>748270578I thought it was used in the Diggernaut fight, or at the very least it made part of it way easier
>>748270743I actually like fighting it despite it being bullshit at times. Definitely one of the best MS bosses.>>748270746You know what? I never thought of using it for the fight.
>>748269374>If they call this thing the Narpas Sword, I'm gonna laugh my fucking ass off.My sides
>get new Metroid>get new Mega Man>get new Castlevania>get new (sorta) Rayman>Sonic recovered bigly with Shadow Gen and is getting a new game next year probably as well>all more or less back to backMy life is a complete shitshow and is never recovering compared to 10 years ago. But at least I received more or less everything I ever wanted in some fucking weird twist of fate.
>>748270919Diggernaut is one of the best fights in the series because there's 0 bullshit, unlike this fucker.
>everyone shits on Fusion for years for being Fusion>then Other M comes out, literally being Fusion x10>now everyone shits on Other M and Fusion is brushed aside>then the series fucking dies in a fire and receives an additional gut punch in the form of Federation Force>now Fusion is totally okay and is rated pretty highly in the series all things consideredCurious how things changed.
>>748271187Nightmare is complete bullshit but I still love that fight and it has the best boss themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODV8nfQlDhk
>>748256964Objectively wrong.
>>748256046The series that hasn't had a good game since the gamecube is good and healthy?
>>748271187>>748271360Just use the charge beam when he does the gravity thing.I finished the game pretty easily on my second playthrough with like 45% items.The spider boss can eat a dick though.
>>748271401enjoy your party slop, faggot. real Metroid has been dead for ages
>>748271443Objectively wrong.
>>748271425>Just use the charge beam when he does the gravity thing.I know that it's the way that it moves that always kills me >The spider boss can eat a dick though.Yakuza is pretty easy just morph ball to the corner of the room whenever it starts moving
>>748271360>>748271187>>748271425Nightmare is honestly a really cool monster from a lore perspective. A biomechanical abomination just barely restrained by tech. Like imagine this fucker on a battlefield.
>>748259696You should start from the beginning unless you're a bitch in 1hich case you start wit Super Metroid.
>>748271574Playing Fusion as a more mature adult, it does the whole deep space isolated body horror thing better than just about any other game in the series. All of the major villains/bosses are deeply unsettling when you think about what they actually are.
>>748261187>vaguely okay on Switch 1.True about the loading times, but it ran at 60 FPS at pretty much all times that I can remember other than QTE stuff. Maybe I'm the retard, but it's what I remember.
>>748271574all of the fusion bosses looked really cool
>>748271701Yeah. Its the closest in tone to Alien and Aliens. Which is weird because the X Parasite apes The Thing more.
>>748256046God I hate the infantalization of the English language trend but sometimes it's plain ol' funny.
>>748268305Kill yourself, degenerate.
>>748256251>>748256046>NESPretty good, not really something I'll go back to.>IIFound it easier to appreciate recently returning to it. Still has very clear issues but it also excels in other areas. If the Metroid fights were good I'd call it a great game but they're not so it's just pretty good.>SuperHard to not call it incredible on an objective level but personally the aspects it does best (non-linearity, momentum-based movement) are nice but aren't what grabs me.>FusionFavorite of what I've played, great mix of good controls, good combat, good secrets, incredible visuals, just enough optional backtracking, and a good plot. If you could skip the Navigation Room dialogue and if the Nightmare/Ridley/SA-X fights were a little better (you either know exactly how to kite the AI or you get fucked by contact damage) I'd call it perfect.>PrimeFirst Metroid I ever played. Incredible aesthetics and OST but combat is dull and its exploration/non-linearity clashes with the super linear levels.>Prime HuntersPretty cool, crazy it runs on a DS. The other Hunters are just cool designs. Nothing too special beyond that.>Fed ForcePlayed about 10-15 minutes to confirm it can even be played Solo. I'll go back sometime out of curiosity now that it's a decade removed from the horrible timing associated with it.>Samus ReturnsHalfway through, really enjoy it despite the pacing feeling even slower than Fusion. Genuinely one of my favorite parry mechanics in any game I've played, really well-tuned and multi-faceted without being centralizing.Haven't played ZM, Dread, Prime 2-4, Prime Pinball or Other M. Honestly don't know if I'll play them anytime soon besides ZM & Dread in preparation for Ravenous. Honestly with what little I know about them my favorite Prime would probably be Corruption which doesn't seem to be the popular consensus at all.
I think Prime 1's critical reception is inflated by the fact those same reviewers who were previously covering the game as "FPS Metroid made in Texas" got blown the fuck out by something that was actually faithful in design to the previous games, and that defiance of expectation is the only reason it's rated as highly as it is. I mean, is it good? Yeah. "One of the highest rated games of all time" good? EH...
>>748269059The Super remake WILL be pixel art, because it'll be WayForward making it.
>>748272331Just play ZM and Dread. The other games are just not worth it.
>>748272509I'd be excited 15 years ago but seeing how hard WayForward have fallen and how much disservice they did to Contra lately (after ironically putting out an amazing Contra game before) doesn't fill me with hope. They are a slop studio now.Now if it were Inti doing the remake on the other hand...
>>748272509>>748272661A Super remake probably has Sakamoto breathing down the neck of anybody making it so I'd worry more about what he'd think of it looking back than WF's spin on it. They've done remakes for Nintendo before and they do have some very good sprite artists still so I'd believe they're doing it.>IntiBetter than WF but they're a 7/10 factory and have been for like a decade. Every time I get excited for a new Inti game thinking it'll be a GOTYC I come away from it thinking "yeah that was alright, at least it was really pretty".
>>748272863I am biased because Blaster Master Zero is what I wanted for like 20 years before its release, and not only did they knock it out of the park, it's also the best case of a faithful-but-new revival/remake/continuity in gaming and is also one of very few cases of amazing continuity between the games themselves (story and gameplay wise).Unfortunately they never did anything as good afterwards and I am also losing hope for Zero 4.Shouldn't have blown all this money on Umbraclaw or whatever
>>748272331If you like the party in sr in dread you can move while using it
>>748256251AM2R > ZM > Fusion > Dread > Super
>>748273173Nice. I've already attempted to time it while in midair just so I'm avoiding damage while traversing. I'm extremely parry-fatigued in most other games I've played so I'm really pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoy the balancing of this one.
>>748272603Nah, he should play everything and form his own opinion, like a normal person
Which is the best Gunship?
>>748272603Bro, your Prime 2?Also like the other guy says, might as well play them all and decide for himself.
>>748256251Super>Dread>ZM>Prime>AM2R>Metroid Planets>Fusion>Prime 2>Prime 3>Prime 4
>>748273339>>748273386>trying to force that anon to play dogshit gamesdevilish
>>748273426>ForceI see my powers of persuasion has transcended through the internet, very good.
>>748273363the space pirate one she stoleit has a little tail
>>748273513What, you mean the sperm pod?
>>748271360i just realized that fusion's music sounds like it was written for genesis/mega drive
>>748265317>>748260482It's been lost over the years simply because of the time inbetween installments and the way games nostalgiabait by bringing back iconic bosses, but by Prime, Ridley was not a normal chump and he really wasn't supposed to be one. Ridley is the guy who starts Super by stealing the baby Metroid and Prime by taking all of Samus' suit upgrades. They couldn't have Ridley start every game by wrecking her shit because it would be too repetitive (this isn't Starfox lol), but his role is "fuck up Samus's life in particular and for no reason."I view Ridley with a role similar to Revolver Ocelot in MGS. His effect on her life's trajectory is too strong for him not to be her nemesis, even if he doesn't explicitly show up in every game. There's no way she could just get over the trauma of a single purple dragon taking both her parents and "baby," and instigating the years of Phazon bullshit.
I just finished Super and while I was impressed by aspects of it (especially as a SNES game) and understand it's objectively great, it didn't really affect me as a whole. I also didn't really care for some of the locations, which took a lot of the game's runtime. I'll probably enjoy replaying it and playing ROM hacks later though.In contrast, I finished Metroid II before that and I could talk a lot about what made that game so impressive to me.I think I might be retarded.
>>748259437Uh oh. Somebody's angy!
>>748263058Literally always the case. Texans made Prime and Spaniards made Dread.
>>748274809And yet they still can't reach Super.
>>748274328>both her parentsHe personally killed Grey Voice.
>Most Nintentards on this thread are sucking off Fusion and DreadThis IP is deader than Fire Emblem
>>748274843Learn English before posting.
>>748274870Fuck off millennial baldie. Fusion hate is not en vogue anymore.
>>748274890There isn't a single thing wrong in that sentence. You might be huffing Phazon.
>>748274914My first Metroid game was FusionIt's a 6/10 at best
>>748274953"Reach" is a completely incorrect word. Learn English.
>>748256251Super>Prime>ZM>Dread>Fusion>SR>M1>Other MI actually love the gameplay and storytelling of Dread but I just can't get behind the segmented map design and repetitiveness of the EMMI fights (they don't feel like desperate chases and more like puzzles with a singular solution). MercurySteam did a good job fixing my issues with the parry in Dread so I'm hoping they might hit it perfect in Ravenous, assuming they don't introduce some other bullshit singular element that annoys me.Is Hunters any good?
The Galactic Federation had god damn Pacific Rim mechs and they are wasting time and resources with bioweapons?
>>748274843Dread's pretty fucking close, the only major criticisms being music and the EMMIs not being nearly as scary as the SA-X.>>748274953>And yet, they still can't reach Super.It's pedantic, but he missed a comma.>"Reach" is a completely incorrect word.Never mind, he's stupid.
>They called it Fusion because you fuse with the X>They called it Dread because you dread running into EMMI>They're calling it Ravenous because you're hungryThis is some BRAVO KOJIMA shit.
It's not fair
>>748275104What would they call Super nowadays?Metroid Revengeance?Metroid Shinespark?
>they called it Return of Samus because it's the return of Samus>they called it Super because it's on the Super NES>they called it zero mission because it's the one with the dogshit Zero Suit.My god...
>>748275190>Zero Suit>DogshitYou need to kill yourself
I relate to samus a lot I just wish I was as hot as her
>>748275002>Spend years and tens of millions of tax dollars constructing a giant robot> A half-bird girl in a suit takes it down in ten minutes> Energy gets drained by a unicellular infant jellyfish> Gets possessed by a singular parasite that can divide itself every ten seconds> An angry bird on steroids shouts really hard at it and it just falls apartGiant mechs aren't worth it in the Metroid universe.
>>748275249Shit like this doesn't get deleted on sight because the jannies on this shithole board agree with it.
>>748275190retard
ok hear me out>3D Metroid game>Not first person like Prime but third-person>Focuses on action, so more similar to Other M but without the retarded dog shit that brought that idea down>Also focuses on 3D on-foot exploration of a huge desolate world, while staying fast and snappy because of the movement and camera>Not 'open-world', but it is open-ish with some gating>Made as an official bridge between the Prime series and the later main series>It's a full-on open 3D remake of Metroid 2
>>748275246The Power Suit is wayyyy sexier.It also does its fucking job and doesn't leave Samus scared and defenceless against mooks.It also also doesn't give Samus a mole and shrink her by 1'2".
>>748275387>The Power Suit is wayyyy sexierI agree, and I wish the Zero Suit had it's own helmet.>It does it's jobThe Zero Suit is just a way to interface with the Power Suit>and doesn't leave Samus scared and defenceless against mooksThat was the whole point of that section>Not liking the moleNow I know you're gay, probably a femdom faggot who wants to be pegged by Power Suit dildo extension.
>>748270538Imagine
>>748274870I also think super metroid is the best game in the series without contest, but I also think that you can't surpass super by doing super again, so I appreciate the following entries trying different things. For all its linearity and interruptions, fusion was quite hype and outright inspired in some regards, and while dread had a few things that could be more exciting, it brought other things to the franchise while also being a damn good time.
>>748256235Dark age is over but we're still far from the glory days. Modern metroid continues to be a joke compared to 2002-2009
>>748266815>JobsShe tanked that stab
>>748275695If third Party games now do Metroid better than Nintendo, what's even the fucking point? I don't want a different thing, I want a evolution of what I had before.This hasn't been done since fucking PrimeNintendo has no idea what to do with this franchise, Star Fox or Donkey Kong.
>>748275668>That was the whole point of that sectionThen the section shouldn't be in the videogame.
>>748275115You'll get your game after Sakurai gets out of Smash 6 development jail
>>748273363>make your ship look like your faceI bet she got design lessons from Meta Knight.
>>748275876>Main gameplay loop is getting kind of stale>Present new enemies while taking your weapons and upgrades away>Give you completely new, pretty good gameplay mechanics>Take 5 minutes at most>Gives you back all your gear and more>Fuck shit up>Kill Mecha RidleyThat whole section is fantastic, you're a bitch
>>748272331Supposedly, Federation Force is actually pretty fun when played with friends. Obviously it's not even a Metroid game really, but it has some merit I guess.
>>748275852You don't think 180* aiming or melee counters are considered evolutions? You think the 3D first person shooter Prime isn't a completely different thing?
>>748275962you forgot>defeat final boss>countdown starts>escape location right before it self destructsi like to imagine literally everywhere samus visits blows up after she leaves, even when she goes out for e.g. fast food
>>748275876It was fun, and was the first time Samus's abilities outside of her suit were shown outside of flashbacks
>>748274990>"Reach" is a completely incorrect word.No it isn't. It's essentially just short for "reach its heights" or "reach its level of acclaim", or "reach its level of success" or whatever.
>>748275997>>>748275997>You don't think 180* aiming or melee counters are considered evolutions?No, they're gimmicks at most>You don't thing Prime is completely differentNo, it's Metroid in 3D as it should have been.Then the sequels made it more lineae until it became a scripted linear corridor piece of shit.Mercury Steam shit would be good if they didn't treat you like a retard and actually gave you an open ended game.
>>748259696Just start with Super. It's the distilled essence of the 2D experience. Then, Prime 1 or 2, which is the same for the 3D. Dread is a hallway version of the 2D experience. Other M is a soap opera version of the 3D experience.
>>7482760452000s Flash animation vibe
What are some metroidvanias that are actually Metroidlikes?The only things that come to mind are:>Axiom VergeIt was pretty okay but that's it. Never wanted to bother with the second game.>Environmental Station AlphaLoved this one.
>>748276452There are surprisingly little Metroidvanias that actually focus on the Metroid part. Let alone have a sci fi theme. If you don't mind an isometric perspective then I would recommend Scurge Hive.
>>748256046It's kinda weird that Nintendo made a game about Samus having her period but okay
Wait Metroid is a girl???????
>>748276526Yes. She can even crawl now.
>>748259696Since you already have experience with the genre no need to start with zero mission, go straight to super/prime
>>748276452The Mummy: Demastered
>>748276568>>748276502>>748276452Aliens Infestation.
>>748270395Prime isn't optional, it's a required playing for the metroidvania genre. I would argue prime 2 as well. Story is irrelevant for metroid, the games that focus on story all suck anyway
>>748276502I don't mind various settings. I just want the game to focus on upgrades and traversal instead of all the RPGlite and equipment bloat.And also ideally be about shooting, I guess, but could be something else.Blaster Master comes to mind, but it's more of a protovania like the ones released on NES and old Jap computers in the early 80s by truckloads or like the Wonder Boy series, where it's still a linearish game divided into stages but you gotta come back to the hub or find shit.
>>748273363Prime 2, I know that's pretty basic since it's basically just the one from Super but it's the most balanced look, 3's looks a little too generic space fightery for me and 1's has a slightly goofy shape
>>748276215>gimmicksNo. The omega cannon is a gimmick. Aiming and countering are main gameplay mechanics. Melee will only get expanded upon now that Samus is Metroid now.>it's Metroid in 3DSo, something completely different.
>>748276526Why else would you call it a Queen Metroid.
>>748276634>Something completely differentThe core is the exact same
>>748276215Retards like you are why we got Breath of the Wild
>>748277262I don't give a single shit about Zelda
>>748277330And I'm glad you don't have an open ended Metroid
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>>748274890>>748274990Lmfao seething esl learns auxiliary definitions
>>748256638I want a Peace Walker-like Metroid game, where Samus is at home chilling and you could pick whatever missions you want to do
>>748263353It's like getting a real time F91 ability than you can control AND feel powerful at the same time, without feeling out of character for Samus. Like, yes, this is the planet-exploding bounty hunter, of course she can do anime flash dodges.
I like the updated counter charge kill effect
>>748258707Most likely, but it's the fact they're reusing anything from a ptevious game at all that I noticed. Super has the same power suit sprite in the intro as the rest of the game amd Fusion uses the SA-X sprite for the intro. Here it's just an upscaled version of the Dread suit. Of course part of it is that the SNES is completely different from the GB and Fusion came out almost a decade after Super, but still. It at least shows that Metroid is actively being worked on and has a dedicated engine and team which is nice.>>748270031That would be interesting but Ravenous seems as related to Dread as Dread was to Fusion instead of a side story, and Dread was called 5. It's probably the same reason other series are dropping numbers, to avoid putting off new fans.
>>748267553>Aeion abilityI hope to god they do away with cloak, that shit was boring and useless and since we don't have emmi segments any more I hope we don't see it again.From the trailer, we have>new counter to suck instead of shoot alternative>somersault counter>gatling gun>gravity mine drop thing>vertical flash shift>faster(?) missile
>>748277573BMZ2 is sort of like I imagine this scenario to go, only more expansive.
>>748269374>p-please samus-sama. N-no more, I yield. I kneel...
>>748278336>gravity mine drop thingI think samus was in a gravity zone and her missiles were dropping on the floor like it did in the Nightmare fight>faster(?) missileI think in this game samus will get new super damaging missiles
>>748257683Dread absolutely has the best suit design
>>748259151KINGI kneal
>>748267684Literal noskill zoomer ability that eliminates the need for any creativity or skillful precisionYou probably couldn't even comprehend Super Metroid speedruns
>>748278712Your favorite speedrunners love Dread
>>748278503>I think in this game samus will get new super damaging missilesThey felt almost railgun-like in the trailer, I can't fucking wait
>New game comes out>It's 20 years too late>The series has seen multiple trashfires in the meantime and lost all relevance>The devs are contracted gaijin spaniards rather than the time-tested nippon in-staff>Their previous efforts are polarizing at best and very sloppy at worst>The long-awaited sequel adds a bunch of new stuff that seems pretty contentious on paper>They single-handedly knock it out of the park and bring all relevance back to the series and make it produce games again >All while the sequel everyone actually cared about from a time-tested studio crashed and burnedHow did they do it? Seems pretty rare to say the least.
>>748279270maybe Jose Luis Márquez REALLY likes Metroid.
>>748256046Metroid is nothing more than a Xtort" rip-off
>>748279391Doubt, he almost destroyed the company with his own game.And the... direction is very modern anime.
>>748259696Zero Mission or Supersadly these are old games and will not pose much challenge-wise other than cool shinespark puzzles
>>748269148Play in steel soul, suddenly all those "dead ends" end up being somewhat rewarding when you never lose your resources to begin with
>>748259168>and yet somehow Metroid of all things is thrivingTo be fair, it's not like Metroid is doing super well either. Better than the 2010s? Sure, but Ravenous still took 5 years which is a lot considering it's a 2D game. And the only other new game we've gotten is Prime 4. Nuff said about that.
>>748278712>>748278998>look up #1 100% and any% speedrunner for super metroid>he loved dread, is currently 7th for the 100% category>he's excited for ravenous, very happy that flash shift is backlmao
>>748272331>Pretty cool, crazy it runs on a DS. The other Hunters are just cool designs. Nothing too special beyond that.You had to be there for metroid prime hunters. Multiplayer was the only time in 3D metroid that felt like an actual action game and not some walking simulator unironically. No fight in any prime game can measure against you trying to avoid a kriken sniper while a sylux is chasing after you
>>748279889Netflix mini-series soon. Metroid played by Hunter Schafer.
>>748280008Playing Hunters with my friends in high school was one of my favorite memories ever
>>7482798892 games in 5 years is better than 0 games in 23 years F-Zero is experiencing (F-Zero 99 doesn't count)
>>748279270>>All while the sequel everyone actually cared about from a time-tested studio crashed and burnedPrime 4 was originally being done by Bamco, Retro was brought in late to replace them and had to work with the mess they left.
Visible damage on Samus armour relative to health percentage, yay or nay?
>>748280443>F-Zero 99 doesn't countit does
>>748280564That does make sense. Still, somehow I doubt that current Retro would be able to recapture former glory even if it weren't the case. It wouldn't probably be this bad, but would it be great?Tropical Freeze came out over 12 years ago. There is barely anyone left of the original Retro team as I understand, might as well be a different company.
>>748278204>floating instead of attachedI hope thats a smear frame, I don't like this 343 Prometheus ass design
>>748257260Kill yourself slopfaggot.
>>748280564My problem was the absolutely shitty western writing and awful characters that game had. And we knew as soon as 5 years ago Retro hired for those exact positions so I'm not gonna absolve them of sin and give them excuses.I use to adore them, it's truly a sickening situation. To me they're totally cooked.
Simply built different.
>>748282360I hate this image. That attack did not miss her, it went straight through her and should have killed her. Which is far, far more terrifying.Scar and body disfiguration faggots fuck off
