They should have probably handed the IP off to them years ago.
>shit turning halo into codslop didn't work lets give it to the cod guys
>>748257848I’m glad the 343 experiment is over. Unfortunate that it was allowed to persist for this long.
>>748257848343 suffers I thrive
More or less trannies?That is the question.
>>748257848I don't think anyone can do a worse job than 343i.
>>748257848It won't matter if they don't have good writers.A lot of the gameplay decisions post-Bungie could have been glossed over if 343 hadn't raped the setting.
>>748262840halo is a good setting but every shitty lore retcon would have been forgiven if the game had good gameplay
>>748262840The story wasn't the grace of Halo. Frankly it's Hollywood shit and homages. It was the vibes and the combat encounters, the sandbox-style design where not even Battlefield (outside of Bad Company 1) would let players handle whatever vehicles pop up outside of scripted sequences, where enemies actually used to give a shit and try to navigate or flank or surprise, where the player sandbox wasn't just grabbing your favorite gun and never using anything else. Where you'd find a new part of a Halo ring and hear the gregorian monk choir kick in as you unearth a brand new mystery that the Covenant likely didn't understand either, how the "weapon" wasn't what you thought it was, and then shit veered into horror in the span of a single level before all out dual-faction warfare of shit hitting the fan everywhere.Frankly I'll take Call of Duty dudebro military jargon over 343's "MY FEELINGS" writing, and the story mostly needs the aliens to sound exotic, past that the vibes are what sell the world, and the combat is what sells the games alongside user generated content in Forge. Without these three steps, it ain't Halo.
Damn. I feel sorry for the Indians stuck with the job of trying to make a scifi game appeal to Jamal.
>>748257848So this is it, CoD won
>>748263868CoD has been shit for longer than HALO, the last good CoD game came out in 2008
>>748262824Halo is now filled with battlepasses and micro transactions.
>>748264598I don't really give a shit about that desu. None of it affects the gameplay.
>>748257848343 shouldve been headshot after releasing halo 4, this was way overdue but phil spender didnt have the balls to do it
>>748264798the battlepass unlocks guns.
>>748264879running around the map unlocks gunsthe battlepass unlocks skins
>>748257848From shit stained hands to shit and piss and vomit and smegma stained hands.
>>748257848From swimming in sewage to living in sewage, nothing will change.
disappointing but probably what the loud annoying fanbase of halo wantshalo at the time was pushing the envelope of shooter design with clever AI and interesting ideas while cod was mostly eating their lunch with cheap spectacle, more digestable gameplay and skinnerbox-y multiplayer design which I don't really want to see applied to halo.an id software halo would grab my interest because all three of their nudoom games are interesting shooters and i don't think anyone can disagree with that if they're being serious
>>748265653Call of Duty "at the time" like 1 wasn't anything like that, what are you talking about?
>>748265653By the time Halo 3 came out, Call of Duty was releasing World at War, anon.
>>748265653I think id could do a really good Halo gameplay, by design but id aren't great story tellers, and in fact I would say I wouldn't ever want them to touch the dialogue, world building, and story on Halo, considering they have a pretty gay action super hero fantasy! outlook on the doom games, which won't mesh will the Halo stuff, in fact them doing the story will be exactly like how 343 would do it.
Halo was one of the most succesful and dependable IP in the industry before 343 spent fifteen years taking fat tranny shits all over itThe surprise isn't that it happened but that it didn't happen after Halo 5
>>748257848it's gonna feel so good to play bros...
>>748257848It's just an obsolete IP at this point and not pollute-worthy.
>>748265804>>748265835call of duty only really started outright replacing halo's prevalence in the shooter zeitgeist with call of duty 4 which was those things. loadouts instead of arena pickups, WoW EXP system with unlocks, and lots of memorable scripted setpieces where halo was mainly gameplay centric during gameplay
>>748257848>Halo given over to the cowadoody company.This indignity is almost too much to bear.
>>748262824>"I don't mind Disney getting the Star Wars license, whatever they do with it absolutely cannot be worse than the prequels"
>>748266281343 tried to make it into Call of Duty at first, so it's only a fucked up sort of fitting.
>>748266371The difference is that nobody will look back on 4, 5, Infinite or CaE as misunderstood classics in the decades to come.
>>748266082What else do the voices tell you
>>748266690>nobodyI'm already seeing fans do it even before this announcement. I don't even hate the games inherently but more 343 for its sheer incompetence, yet some people were already waxing poetic about them and shit.
>>748257848Downes has probably one more game left in him before he retires or dies of old age. That's if they don't start from scratch and reboot the entire series from the beginning, maybe replace him and jen. Which I think there's a high chance they end up doing. 343 left too much of a mess story wise and why waste time casting an old man that could die between games for your main lead. I'm sure activision will a have game with decent to good MP and an all right to meh story, which I guess is a step up from what 343 was shoving out. Still sad that incompetence led halo down this shitty path and fate.
>>748266690maybe not so much 4, but 5 definitely has some "the multiplayer was really fun" shooters and plenty of people liked infinite on release, it just didn't stick the landing as a live service game and the campaign was "just ok"
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>>748257848This shit is as good as dead lmao CoD is dog shit slop and have been for well over a decade now and their bright idea is to hand off Halo to faggots who have to port/remaster old CoD games to keep their fanbase from chimping out kek yeah nah Halo is dead. CoD is dead. You niggers who swear a collapse would never happen are eating your words as studio after studio gets their cheeks clapped.
I hope the next game whether good or bad calls itself Halo 4 and completely erases everything that happened in all of the games and books that released after Reach. A complete reset, the biggest fuck you possible to everyone involved with the franchise for the last 15 years.please god let this happen because it would be so fucking funny
>>748263387> It was the vibes and the combat encountersAnd the story shapes the vibes and encounters same as they both in turn affect the story.Halo (the level) has its sandbox and vibes tied up with the fact that you start it off with a crash landing and then explore I vast and strange ringworld (setting is also story in this context).
>>748266757Point taken but I wouldn't consider 343 fans "people", at least the prequels had real redeeming qualities to justify their re-evaluation in the public consciousness to anyone outside of an irrationally rabid core of sprint-worshipping redditfags (especially if your name is Alex Jones)
>>748267000it's so fucking amazing>i don't feel like i'm my gender>"oh yes, our culture has that, we eve-">no mom NOT LIKE THAT I'M DIFFERENT, GOD, you just don't GET ITit's like fucking parody. absurd to think that this same gray freak can be trying to purr sexily moments before or after this cutscene if you do shit in a certain order
>>7482676645 and Infinite had redeeming qualities. >the games were still shit.The prequels were still shit. The whole point of redeeming qualities is that whatever good is there is not enough to save it.
I don't know why people are acting like Activision isn't one of the worst, hell they might even be worse than EA. The only difference is that EA ran out of IPs to rape
>>748266909As someone who totally skipped 5 because the campaign filtered me on literally the third mission and was huffing lethal amounts of hopium on Infinite's release, even I would not have called Infinite a "classic" even at the time because there was just waaaaay too much missing at launch. If we're talking about individual gamemodes in isolation, like 5's multiplayer or Infinite's campaign, then I agree there's more of an argument to be had, but in terms of releasing a complete package I would be utterly flabbergasted if any CoD studio did worse than 343i because from my admittedly limited understanding, at least CoD games usually release feature-complete, content rich, and the studios work fast - the complete opposite of 343 along every dimension.Then again they did say Activision is building a whole new team from the ground up for Halo, which is a red flag and gives me Concord flashbacks, so maybe it actually COULD still get worse after all.
>>748267504Would be based tbdesu
>>748257848>We trade one villain for another.
>>748267804anon, the key phrase you omitted from that sentence was>to justify their re-evaluation in the public consciousnessobviously 5 and Infinite have redeeming qualities. The point is that there were not enough of them, nor are they substantial enough, to warrant broad cultural re-assessment like the prequels got.
>>748257848OMG FINALLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
>>748268158Did you forget about Modern Warfare 3(2023) and Black ops 7 nigger?
>>748266757>fansYou mean paid shills that get made fun of by most of the existing people that still care about Halo.
Why would this change or fix anything?We (you HAVE kept up with all the interviews and investigative reports over the years about the franchise, right anon?) already know that the biggest issues 343i/HS had were with Microsoft forcing them to rely on contractors who were in turn required to be let go after X amount of months, which led to a situation where by the time a given contractor learned their way around the engine and got a hang of the workflow, they were given the boot and a new one came in who had to learn all that shit againIf Microsoft forced that on 343i/HS, wouldn't Activision be under the same rules and be just as bad?
>>748268875I knew their campaigns were absolute dumpster fires but that was about it, are you telling me they also had the equivalent of "no split screen co-op, no theater, no forge, no file sharing, no custom games, no server browser, no fucking slayer playlist, barely any maps, shitty barebones progression/customization, and no content" on top of that?In any case the operant word there was "usually". I am well aware that a good product is far from guaranteed from these guys.
>>748257848call of halo: spartan warfare
>>748257848>Next game: "what if... Halo... but CoD? Also maybe let SBI take a look at it?"Thanks Activision, what a way to waste money, parrot around Halo's corpse.
>>748269939To be fair, modern Call of Duty has basically nothing but MP matchmaking with a couple playlists, Warzone and Zombies with dogshit campaigns nowadays. They want to bring DMZ back with MW4 but I doubt it will live long. So at that point it's all about what's actually going on in these modes, and they just seem to get worse each year after MW2 held back a bunch of updates to be reused in MW3. So while Halo betraying its longtime fans for content is absolute dogshit, at the end of the day and their lifespans they have way more on offer than CoD has for ages.
>>748267504They can make a soft reboot hundreds of years in the future with an new team of Spartans. At some point they find Master Chief in his pod ala Captain America, and they just don't ever acknowledge anything that happened in the 343 games.
Activision are just gonna hire ex Destiny devs and make Halo: Re-evolved, a live service game with elements from Destiny 2 and Genshin Impact.
>>748264463black ops 2 was good
>>748273731Everyone has their own opinion i guess, But I haven't played a good call of duty since 4
>>748273731fuck no
>>748271181I hope they at least rehire Marcus Lehto
>>748267000>sits down>I AM GAYlmfao this shit is comedy gold i have no idea why everyone is so pissed at it
>>748257848Asha is what the Xbox brand desperately needed for the past decade. They really rebranded 343 to “Halo Studios”, made all these promises acting like they were completely changed, yet it ended up being the exact same shit company with the CE remake being exactly on par with what you’d expect of 343. The entire Phil Spencer era of Xbox was just promises left and right. I respect Asha for making bold moves for once.
>>748264598So, Infinite?
>>748264879are you going "this is the future" or "this is right now", because that'd be a lie for right now at least
>what if Halo but we play as a normal Marine instead
>>748257848What Halo needs to be a "success" is simply to release in a complete state. Have a fully, self-contained campaign, split-screen, firefight, theater mode, +12 multiplayer maps on launch, all the classic playlists, social and ranked playlists, custom server list, a progression system that rewards playtime and skill, in-game unlockables. Is that too much to fucking ask?The idea of releasing a game with single player, PvE, PvP and community features was so alien to 343i and that's why every game they made sucked. No one was going to wait years for them to make their games worth their time.And even if they do all that, it just won't have a million players at any time like Halo 3 did. It is impossible for a Halo game to become the hit they want, but these days just having 100k regular players should be enough since you can't compete with Fortnite.>>748262840>good writersCan we stop pretending Halo ever had good writing? Only H2 and maaaaaybe Halo: Reach had something resembling an actually compelling narrative, but that's about it. It's basically a Michael Bay movie, and that's not even a bad thing, it has its "Amer- I mean, humanity, fuck yeah!" element, but it was never more than that. It's campy and it's hyping, but quite barebones when you think about it (no, I don't care about book lorefaggotry).People say Halo it's babby's first FPS, but it's more babby's first sci-fi.
>>748276204Honestly, a crew of Marines and ODSTs dealing with insurgents before the Covenant hit in full throttle would be neat. Maybe one steps up to a SPARTAN-III position. None survive.
>>748264598Before I worry about monetization I worry about the game being worth my time to begin with - and that hasn't been the case with 343i.
>>748265653Why is this "it's the fault of the fans that the last 20 halo games have been shit" take so popular with retards? No, anon. It's the developers who are incompetent, and you aren't playing that shit either.
>>748267504Just yesterday I considered the possibility of 343i getting nuked to be practically zero, but suddenly anything is possible so why not anon? Let the whole thing burn to ashes
>>748275369In the months leading up to the announcement that Obsidian was leading the next Fallout, Josh Sawyer was on a bit of a media run doing interviews and fielding questions on what he would do if given the chance to lead another Fallout project. Then suddenly, Asha puts him as creative director.Marcus Lehto was doing surveys a few days ago on what would be a good direction for Halo to go to in the future on Twitter. And later news breaks that Activision is taking the reigns and, as of yet, we haven't seen his reaction to the news. Could be something in the works. It would make sense for known faces to reassure the fans that it's in good hands. 343 tried that with Frankie which was an abject failure seeing how he's contributed nothing of substance to Halo. But Lehto, Staten, Russel, et cetera demonstrably has. Anyone but the baggage from Microslop
>>748262824>replies after reading OP's pic and commentThis is either some brilliant bait or galactic retardation.
>>748277597Not him but yeah, I don't think either.343 set the bar that low.
>>748257848>by ActivisionI thought they were going out of business after buying Blizzard?
>>748265653>an id software halo would grab my interestid does good gameplay but their attempts at narrative stuff is even worse than 343 and I'd be shocked if they could manage the necessary workload to keep a live service game alive even before Microsoft gutted them. Maybe if they worked alongside another studio.
>>748276768I just hope if they can get enough of the old masters, they can persuade Marty to give it one more shot. They'd have to put Frank's head on a plate in front of him, though...
>>748257848A question, actually: what did Halo do to warrant nearly two decades of total humiliation?
>>748276210>Can we stop pretending Halo ever had good writing?I think that people often mean "a lack of bad writing" when they ask for good writing. So that'd be a lack of:-feminism-forced diversity / nightmare possible future demographics-HR / therapist speak-Marvel humorAnd also a lack of:-contrivances that are easily noticed-fast travel (unless it's appropriate in the universe, such as Mass Effect)-speaking of ME: Kai Leng-type enemies who feel out of place -Quicktime events-I could go on. You can tell the most generic basic story and have marginal characters and, if the gameplay is good, people will like it. Many cases of that. It is only once you start to feel a sense of the writers trying to socially engineer the audience that people start to then have problem with basic story and marginal characters. tldr: people will think that it's good writing if it doesn't feel bad to experience.
>>748267000This will always be one of the funniest fucking scenes in gaming history. This is the kind of shit they will show in 100 years and go "What the fuck was wrong with these people">Plates with entire fucking hams and a block of cheese for each person>The bland extra plate of vegetables >The completely unprompted "I'm non-binary" (completely taking you out of the fucking fantasy game)>the fucking awkward silence before the mum goes "What does that mean">The moment when the mum tries to understand using something similar that already exists in their own culture>the fucking chimp out saying that's not it at all>by all accounts the mum is trying really hard to be understanding of this bullshitIts so fucking good I can see this being a near 1-1 performance of some retard developers own coming out to their family and being completely blind to how fucking stupid it makes the ogress
let put this underthe face that killed a studiofolder
>you survived long enough to see a mediocre shooter heralded as the second coming of christ on 4chins only for it to be ravaged by corporate cock and reduced to an annual cash grab, a fate worse than complete IP death
>>748282337Jean Grey.Control woman.Mary Jane.Cortana. Did I miss any others? This face must have been pushed behind the scenes within the industry.
>>748257848zoomers are rejoicing
>>748257848To who, Activision? They are woke too.
