You know throughout this game's marketing prerelease span I've heard so much talk about realism and immersion and this and that but not a single mention of the word "fun".

>>748263269
*shoots the rando NPC in the head before it even has a chance to fidget*

Alos that SCREAMS AI. Lmao. Like anybody really spent their time on it.

>>748263618
Rockstar is the one studio that in fact would spend time on it. All the prestige and awards really got to their heads and they forgot they are still making video games

>>748263618
Sounds like a good use of AI

>>748263735
Its literally the whole appeal of their games

>>748263832
It's a new era.
*farts*
That 'team' is from india

>>748263269
Sweet. Can't wait to play it several years after release when I can get it on sale.

>>748263269
It's a marketing statement, it doesn't have to be substantiated in any way, shape or form.

>>748263735
Or maybe they didn't forget, they just realized that hey, we have enough morons doing free marketing for us making those shorts about the detail in game, let's just not even try.

And yet some kids with AI tools rig just as well as rockstar professionals. I'll be impressed when I see it.

>revealed that the studio established a new Los Angeles-based team of writers, directors, and producers to focus solely on realizing non-player characters (NPCs).
Wow, multiple writers, can't go wrong with that!
>"Every room in the game, somebody thought about this," Garbut said. "Who's sitting where, what they're drinking, the marks that are left on the table. The pictures on the wall will have the people that are in that room, with their tattoos on their arms and their family behind them. That whole thing has been made, and built, and photographed, and placed in this random room in a random building in a huge city, in a world."
1000 PLANETS TO EXPLORE
>"Once we managed to accomplish that level of interactive fidelity in a more sparsely populated version of America 100 years ago," Nelson said, "we were already imagining what it would be like if we could do that at the scale and density of a modern environment."
Did you imagine the scale of fun too?

>>748264251
>this random room in a random building in a huge city, in a world."
This shits gonna take 2 years to 100%, completionists btfo

>>748264251
>>"Once we managed to accomplish that level of interactive fidelity in a more sparsely populated version of America 100 years ago," Nelson said, "we were already imagining what it would be like if we could do that at the scale and density of a modern environment."
>Did you imagine the scale of fun too?
Well consider any fucking Dragon Quest or Zelda game
>Go in house. Inspect all the drawers, book cases, pots for loot, break shit for a rupee if you can
Now you can terrorize a whole unique neighborhood, not just a single family of minorities, with bullets.

Exactly. Why go through all this trouble when you can pull a Nintendo and reuse 3ds animations for your $80 game instead?

>>748264672
Sincerely kill yourself. Nobody fucking said go full nintendo.

>>748263269
pedestrians are one of V's biggest weaknesses, they're not as funny as the old games and they also don't have any sophisticated behaviors to make up for it. they're either doing their normal routine or running away like headless chickens.

>>748263269
Depends on the purpose, pleasing normalfaggots who can't imagine an apple is a pretty retarded goal

https://youtube.com/shorts/JEwKpkeeFmo?is=r_2f15b6JJQwOY7z
>rdr1 still looks better
>>748265436
Lol great way to put it

>>748265313
yep

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>See that flea's asshole? We had a team working on that. You're welcome!

>>748264039
op works for pennies, but not quite for free

>>748263504
You'll get a different animation for that every time

https://youtu.be/F63h3v9QV7w?is=BEihUjvtMCjbZFKA
Fuck man I forgot how good the trailers were, where was this Arthur in the game?
>>748265683
Claire my beloved

>>748263618
They already said they used no AI the game is crafted by humans like it should be.

Seriously, why don't these niggas just play SIMS? No, not that Sims.

>>748263269
What is wrong with this exactly? They do it because they have the resources to fuck around. Not every studio does, so they focus on other things. Amateur devs focusing on style over substance would be rightfully grilled and it would reflect on the product. Different teams are working with different limitations.

>>748266269
>What is wrong with this exactly?
Nothing! In fact this is not only perfectly fine, this is OBJECTIVELY good! Videogames are undeniably better for this. We need MORE of this!

Cope

>>748263269
It becomes vastly less impressive when you realize they are including the NPCs sharing animations as a "new animation" so divide the NPC model count by 600k and its vastly less impressive and does clearly show its a waste of resources. Now divide it again by 5 for limb positioning splits, then again by 2 for gender specific rigs. Its probably closer to 100 NPCs sharing 300 animations with any number of: ragdolling, running away, or driving left/right included as number fluff

>>748263269
>we added SIX HUNDRED BILLION ANIMATIONS!!!
>npcs still don't react to a car jacking happening right in front of them, not even pulling their phones out to record
maybe another 20 years and 15,000,000,000 dollars.........................

>>748263269
Z

>>748269393
i guess if you just pull out numbers out of your ass like you are doing anything could be not really impressive

animations like these are just motion capture slop

>>748263269
the more realistic these games get the less fun they are. I prefer simpler animations were everything's snappy and fun. Shooting someone in the head with a sniper and seeing their head pop and their body hit the ground with a simple animation is the funniest thing in the world and it never gets old. I don't need 60,000 animations, advertising that you made 60,000 animations means nothing to me when i'm playing a game unless it's getting in the way of my fun and responsiveness

>>748270030
imo making something fun takes skill and taste, which are not things you can buy. so the AAA industry used games media to de-emphasize fun and reactive worlds, and focus instead on choosing the battlefields where money can compete and win. like graphics, or amount of content etc. An AAA can't compete with a skilled indie on fun, but an indie can't compete on graphics. So of course they try to make things about graphics where they can turn it into a metric of how many graphics programmers or artist-hours

>>748269496
Pretty sure they do record it in gta 5

>>748263269
The more news i read about this the more i think the first thing people are going to do is speedrun the game to get a gun to start shooting NPCs, get 5 star wanted level and then die to the police
Nobody but streamers are going to pay attention to most of this crap

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>>748265683
>15 weird GTA6 details you've never seen before
>1, you can get an ingrown toenail and you have to go to the hospital to get it out or you won't be able to run, you'll start to lose health and stamina over time
>2, plastic straws can melt if you don't sip on a drink fast enough, you won't get a buff and you're money will be wasted
>3, if you don't wash your teeth, your teeth will decay over time, rockstar made 47 different models of teeth for jason and lucia to show the decay over time
>4, like jason's beard, lucia will have to shave her legs or they will grow over time and shave lucia and she'll be unable to sprint as often or as long, you will have to buy cream, switch to jason and apply it, then wait for a couple of days until she recovers to eb able to play as her
>5, rockstar actually modeled 74 different types of feces for npcs and animals, one of them is a subtle reference to the gta classic trilogy as a nood to the team that worked on it, this can only be found on a tuesday at 3:08 in the morning with lucia by the far east of grassrivers on a crescent moon
>6, fleas have fully modeled assholes and they pucker, you can see it via photo mode, the detail in these games are insane, I love it
>7, if lucia or jason eat too much candy, they become diabetic, forcing them to go to the bathroom every 30 minutes
>8, if lucia gets fatter, she'll get stretchmarks, each stretchmark has been randomized so not one stretchmark will be the same, if you use the cheat menu you can set stretchmarks to max and see where all stretchmarks at the same time, a whopping 257 stretchmarks where made just for Lucia's model, some of them even spell out the name of the designer who crated these stretchmarks and oddly enough, Elvis, which if you don't know by now, is the same guy that made the newspaper from gta3, yep, he's still working at rockstar.

>>748263618
probably not ai, just them considering.the same npc with 10 different hats 10 different npcs

Where did these NPCs go? Cause theres been barely any in the leaked footage compared to the sizzle reel we saw 2 years ago. Like that old beach pic- the actual game has 1/3 that many NPCs on the beach

>>748271765
there's hundreds of npcs on the beach though, someone even made a webm that counts every single npc that appears on screen but i don't have it saved

>>748271850
That was only in the early footage. The leaked footage showed that hundreds was really tens

>>748271970
im talking about the leaks, you should see the full video

>>748263269
So I should never see two different npcs repeating the same animation is what you're claiming? Do you really think I wont check up on this?

>>748272024
I did and was not impressed. Theres also like no whites in any of the high density NPC areas. Thats realistic but it sucks to look at

>>748271076
This is unironically what I expect games in 2040 on ps7 to be like

>>748272116
i thought it was really impressive, considering is almost night ingame and the beach is packed despite that

>>748272510
Thats jeet shit. They don't understand that Americans go back home at sundown.

I wish I could enjoy Rockstar games like the rest of the world seems to since they all seem a lot happier. Like, they spend billions of man hours crafting this realistic, reactive worlds, but I just can't stand them because the gameplay is just shit. I don't care if each NPC actually has an elaborate daily routine since just moving your character feels terrible in these games.

>>748272694
>this realistic, reactive worlds
Yeah, about that...

>>748263269
> over 600,000 animations
> not a single care for customizing the color of the shits they make
Why bother if theyre going half ass things

>>748272894
what color?

>>748272694
yes thank you anon i agree
its like when you press forward, its like you're initiating the animation that results in forward momentum. not actually directly controlling things. the witcher was like that too.

>>748273209
Its cause Rockstar is a hack company who exist solely to give little kids a naughty game to talk about at school. They have never made a good game. I hope this game kills them for good... but it won't because we live in goyim hell matrix societu

>>748263269
Games like that have always promised an impossible level of variety and interaction. Earlier GTA releases, Cyberpunk, Starfield. This is probably similar, but the only way to deliver it is exactly that. Shitloads of manpower. That’s the only thing that makes me slightly interested in it.

>>748272694
Bro if you don't like Rockstar its like nit liking sports- it makes you a pariah but is proof that you are high IQ. Only people with nothing going on upstairs get into this shit. OH LETS GET A BIG MAC ON THE WAY TO SEE AVENGERS DOOMSDAY THEN I'LL POST MY REVIEW ON LETTERBOXD BEFORE FIRING UP WOLVERINE AND HAVING A BLAST OH WHO'S PLAYING TONIGHT HONEY fuck if I could kill every normienI would. They exist to give me their tax dollars and thats it

>>748265683
Reminds me of Socrates measuring how many flea feet a flea can jump in Clouds

>>748273457
Shitloads of jeet power you mean. This game was almost entirely produced by Indians. The fact any of upu have any faith in it not being a cyberpunk tier disaster at launch is baffling me. Maybe you've just all been waiting for a new GTA since you were a kid. Thats the only plausible explanation for why /v/ is sucking this obvious piece of shit off

I think the autistic anti GTA spammers on /v/ have wasted more time to be quite honest

>>748273627
It doesn't take autism to tell this is a dumpster fire. Cyberleek exposed their asses hard

>>748263269
But what are their bathroom break schedules!?

>>748273687
It's just gta 5 with all the rdr2 shit added in, unironically I'm expecting everyone to sour on it in 3 yearsthe way they did with gta 5

>>748274250
Exactly. Its not shit. Certainly not gonna meet the expectations of people who have waited a decade for it

>>748263269
>a team solely to fill the game with niggers and jeets
ftfy

600k npc animations are you gonna see all of them in the first 3 hours and notice repeats as you drive back and forth across the map to pay for ur gfs transition

>>748274250
oh so GTA6 will remain the most popular game many years after it comes out?

>>748275018
Well yeah

>>748275018
To Brazilians and other various macaroni, yes. To whites in first world countries, it will get dropped in favor of more ball and gun games fast

>>748272694
>realistic, reactive worlds
There is not a single Rockstar game that this describes

>>748275321
why do you keep repeating this every thread when it is demonstrably not true?

>>748275321
>macaroni
Macacos
Shitposting on a phone is hard guys

>>748275431
>Demonstratably
Nothing has been demonstrated. Rockstar released some padded numbers but everyone knows Cyberleek and the netflix special soured most gamers on it.

Good. One time I was following a random NPC in St Denis who was up to no good. He turned around and said "stop following me." It spooked me out.

What you need to understand is that Rockstar is not really interested in making a video game, they are making a second life simulator. Think about it. GTA roleplay is extremely popular, Rockstar just formed a partnership with Nopixel. GTA VI Online is going to be a heavy sim roleplay experience. Everything they've shown about the "game" supports this, they've lifted a ton of features from GTA roleplay servers. The goal is not to make a game you play, it's to make an immersive virtual world that people live in for years, and to monetize that.

>>748275829
>GTA VI Online
I just remembered that this costs extra. Lmao. Just lmao at cockstar third worlders. They wanted to massacre groups of browns at the beach and instead they're getting dating sim minigames

>>748263269
It is at the point where less is more.
They making the game more tedium with its simulations than gamey

>>748276451
Its been confirmed that much like the new Halo you can't shoot certain groups of women. I don't see he fun or escapism in this game whatsoever. I think hardcore GTA fans will play it for a monyh and then pretend it doesn't exist

>>748263618
>Like anybody really spent their time on it.
Projecting your own laziness.

>>748276598
India working their asses off on it nonstop is the equivalent amount of work as an american dev team getting a ping pong table and ordering pizza every Friday. India made this game, and it will show

>>748263269
>game with 8000 devs had more than one person working on something
wow

>>748263269
Waste of time, the average normalfag doesn't care about this kind of shit and you'll only see some of it in some "100 things you didn't know about GTA6" bullshit video in your youtube feed in a couple years

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It makes sense to me.
They might as well do this with their billions of dollars because game design hasn't evolved since the early 2000s and pretty much stagnated mid PS4

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>Shits that were done in other games since years, but since it's Rockstar, we are supposed to care now

>>748263269
Does the consumer deserve this level of attention to detail, is my question. Do they even care.

>>748263345
It goes without saying

>>748263269
>put a bunch of effort into this
>fail at one of the most important aspects of GTA, which is the writing
GTAVI will blow it out of the water financially, don't get me wrong, but I actually give at least 50% odds that it'll be Rockstar's Assassin's Creed Unity or Final Fantasy XV. That is to say, it'll actually be terrible that so many people played the game because it'll destroy the faith in the company in the long run.

>>748277163
>detail that actually matter
Lmao
I have like 350 hours in all GTAs combined
i don't remember a single time where i did this

>>748277436
I doubt that
everything they showed looked pretty good so far
even the leaks had a lot of god stuff in em

>>748263269
The combat in the leaks still looks ass, characters insta teleporting / snapping into position / first frame of animation etc. Janky transitions. Rockstar has nothing on Naughty Dog. ND remains king in motion matching / synthesis / kinematics / even motion capture. Eye / pupil jittering around and you could even see muscle fibers twitching in the character faces.

>>748277163
WEI SHEN MOTHERFUCKER

>>748277582
>insta teleporting / snapping into position / first frame of animation etc. Janky transitions.
Almost like it was an unfinished build not meant to be seen by public

>>748277145
I do kinda feel like GTAV has the Ocarina of Time curse.

Apart from incremental improvements, getting rid of a couple of annoying things (e.g. police chases are more like the PS2 games), and gimmicks, how do you improve on GTAV?

don't ever let me catch you reading the future TECHNOLOGY threads we're going to have

>>748277582
That wasn't the finished game...

>>748277641
What is GTA known for? Open-world pseudo-realism. So you lean into that and cut out everything that subtracts from that experience. GTA needs to become more GTA-like. Not less.

>>748277641
You make better gta 5 by having good shooting.

But Rockstar is trying with the new heat and disgust system, as well as more emergent events (I wonder how emergent they really are). Those things are for people with some understanding of game design though, so they don't make headlines unlike horse balls and the player gaining weight

>>748263269
I wanna thank cyberleek for showing me this game is ass

>>748277730
>What is GTA known for?
Being a giant playground where you wreak havoc and look for collectables. But it's not as crazy as Saint's Row.

GTAIV sucked.

>>748277813
So, you don't deviate from that. You address the systems in GTA's DNA and tune them to feel better, and you improve how INTERACTIVE the playground/city is. That is how you incrementally improve GTA over the course of several installments. That is also why GTA RP is so popular. Because the playground is the setting and it's interactive enough to support social play. People already know what to expect from a GTA game because it's a very simple yet very decent premise.

>>748277807
You mean you don't wanna party with the all black nude resort people?

>>748278013
>black nude resort people?
Mostly white boomers

>>748277185
The consumer deserves far more than that. Devs are simply incapable of delivering a good product anymore for the most part, especially Cockstar

>>748278048
I saw a lot of fat black bitches

>>748277628
>i-it's only a beta, it's going to get fixed before release

Everytime.

>>748278063
Name some good products

>>748263345
Wolverine sold well. It turns out that “realism” really is more marketable to normies than “fun”

>>748278063
>The consumer deserves far more than that.

LOL. Why? Why do you deserve an industry state where videogames are made by people who take the craft seriously?

>>748278083
It's not even beta you fucking retard
it's literally an in-development build of the game

It like looking at a block in for a painting and saying painting will be bad before forms don't look perfect

>>748278085
The shamwow
The swiss army knife
Ritter Sport chocolate
Refillable water bottles

>>748278132
People deserve every industry to be pro consumer.

>>748263345
This is not marketing this headlines written to get clicks

trailers were marketing and those looked fun

>>748278132
Because they're charging 80 a pop for their garbage. Thats only gonna fly for so long if dev teams do not get their shit together. Boycotts can and will happen

>>748278168
You can't seem to explain why this is your opinion, which makes me think you don't actually deserve it.

>>748278159
I meant games you faggot retard

>>748278145
You don't know what it is but are merely theorizing. Its annoying when anons speak matter of factly avout theirnpersonal opinions.

>>748263269
It's both, anon. It doesn't really matter to the gameplay, but then you can watch some random fucking no-name NPC eat a meal and drink and gradually clean his plate and think DAMN THAT WAS KINDA COOL

>>748278230
>You don't know what it is but are merely theorizing
It was literally leaked footage from an in development build of the game

if game was perfect back then they would've released it

>>748278226
All of the Smash series
All 3D Mario games except 3D World
Megaman X
Megaman Battle Network 4-6
Final Fantasy 6-10
SMT and Persona series
Majors Mask

I can easily continue but I don't know what point you're trying to make is

>>748278329
Nint0ddler alert!

>>748278290
The game is gonna be considered in development and being worked on well past the release date. Theres gonna be enormous patches and updates. Because after a decade of work, it turns out relying on indians just gets you naked niggers

>>748278369
And? Xbox has like 5 good games and they'reall rollslop, PS5 has zero games and costs 1k, PC graphics cards are like 120k. I'm just fine sticking with the onlybwinning team on the market

>>748278329
>Battle Network 4
Anon...

>>748278374
You are just coping and seething like retard
i can bet that Final game will look like extended look
not like unfinished leaks
because i don't recall any major Clipping or snapping in rdr2

>>748278426
Makes sense you are seething about GTA

>>748278429
Red Sun and Blue Moon may be slightly broken but they are amazing games with amazing plots and much more fun to play than liberation missions in 5 and more customizable than Gregar and Falzar

>>748278436
I'm coping and seething like a retard? I'm not the one who dropped 120 on a code in a box of an indian made unfinished game bro

>>748278471
Again, seething? I'm making fun of you absolute plebs. I bet you're waiting with baited breath for this shit in between niggerball games and Family Guy episodes

>>748278507
>Buzzword Buzzword Buzzword
alright

>>748265848
Nigger, you just reinvented ragdoll physics.
Actually no, its worse than that.
You made a more limited version for 100x the effort.

>>748278536
Shut up dude, nint0ddlers like you are going to eat up that ugly UE5 remake of OoT

>>748278550
Name one that I used

>>748278589
It'll sell more than GTA 6 too. I bet that drives you nuts

>>748278558
Actually you need both ragdolls and animations
Ragdoll on it's own can looks really goofy and stupid so you have to mix it up with animations

>>748278614
Delusional

>>748263269
ZZZZZzzzzzz

>>748278593
this is all buzzwords
>>748278507
>>748278374

>>748278683
You don't know what a buzzword is lol

>>748278657
I'd bet at least 5k on it

>>748278705
You are pointlessly throwing in words because they are related to outrage

>>748278739
I'm actually being succinct and to the point. My goal isn't to make anyone feel outraged. Just to say that GTA6 is gonna be one of the biggest cultural flops of all time

>>748278472
Actually based

>>748278792
you are just throwing in words like indians and niggers because you don't have a real argument

>>748278853
My argument is the leaked and official footage all looking like absolute trash. I don't need an argument beyond that because I'm not the retard who dropped 120 for a code in a box. You did that bro.

>>748278909
>My argument is the leaked and official footage all looking like absolute trash
But all the things you mentioned like clipping and snapping were only present in Leaks

You are a retard who is going to eat up OoT remake

>>748278941
You got me confused for another guy. I didn't say shit about clipping or snapping, I mostly complained about the naked niggers and how you can't shoot most women.

Yeah, OOT has love put into it, unlike this cynical cash grab. I'm looking forward to it.

>>748278995
> I mostly complained about the naked niggers and how you can't shoot most women.
Retardation

> OOT has love put into it, unlike this cynical cash grab
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think mixtape will win GOTY and beat GTA VI

>>748263269
Before answering this, I need to know how many of those NPCs have realistic horse genitals.

I suspect this game will make gta 5 seem less bad in the eyes of most of /v/
>>748275829
Nailed it
>>748277582
Naughty dog is the king of shitty boring realism slop gameplay that's only win is looking good in YouTube videos, sure

>>748279083
>Retardation
Do you... like... naked niggers anon?

>>748279189
Only naked nigger here is you,
because you can't stop making shit up

>>748263269
you know with as much money as they have gta 6 really should have more features, like a crew system where you hire npc thugs to job jobs for you in gta online, you'd have your own hired npcs driving a vehicle across the map to do a delivery for you that others could fuck with, or like npc random events where theres like a large number of random npc groups that can spawn that do wacky shit, like one guy getting chased by a dozen fat guys who quickly tire and give up before just idling around wherever they are

>>748263269
That sounds like a lot of bloat desu

>>748279249
You didn't see the Cyberleek vids?

>>748279286
I did but maybe you watched wrong leaks
lol

>>748279283
Smarr indie dev company
Please understandu

>>748279321
"Wrong" leaks? I watched the ones he put up on his site. And theres a part where you open a gate to a nude beach and a whole gang of naked niggers come thru. Dunno how you missed that

>>748279370
>whole gang of naked niggers come thru
don't remember that, maybe because i was looking at the women, because not a gay cuck like you

>>748263269
We'll see when the game is released. I'm not excited for it.

>>748279402
The women were niggers too dude

>>748271076
upvote this was very funny to read

>>748279283
>with all that money they could've made a shitty crime management game
huh?

>>748279425
I remember most of em were white, you might be obsessed with niggers

Not buying this slop anyways, don't really care.

>>748279528
Buying this slop, do care

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>>748263269
Rockstar is known for attention to detail, so that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH8xh6XUCQw

>>748280929
>Rockstar is known for attention to detail, so that one.
there has been exactly 1 rockstar game where this was even true

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>>748281048
shut up retard

>>748281170
>>748281184
how much is rockstar paying you

>>748263269
this is with cutscenes included, you wont see 99% of those during gameplay.
i would rather have more freedom during missions like in san andreas, where you didnt get a mission failed for everything you did.

>>748281048
fuck off retard

>>748280929
these leaks have me more hype than that extended look

>>748281236
about tree fiddy

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>>748263269
Can't wait for somebody to find AI-generated assets after the release.
The seething will be glorious.

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>>748280929
>dat gore when the dude gets run over by the truck

>>748281048
Max payne 3

>>748281297
>this is with cutscenes included, you wont see 99% of those during gameplay.
Are you retarded or something?

>>748263618
Every single programmer is using AI

>>748278103
>Wolverine sold well
make back its budget yet?

>>748281297
>phoneposter too dumb to ask google what cutscenes are made of

>>748282419
do you even need to ask?

>>748263345
Fun is a buzzword.

>>748263269
All this shit is pointless, it's like when Cities Skyline gave their peds teeth. No one cares about this shit

>>748282558
I care
it adds to the immersion

>>748282780
this

>>748263269
>game is a AAAA sandbox in a populated city
>"Rockstar reveals it built a team that focused on NPCs"
Whoah, I'd have never expected that! Shocking revelation!

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>>748263269
yeah the npc variety in the leaks and extended look is impressive. i don't see the problem. people seem to be finding the dumbest reasons to hate on gtavi.

>>748263269
>What the fuck are we doing here man

making a good game. what's the problem?

>>748279283
The best we can do is idle animations for NPCs that serve no purpose other than set dressing.

>>748263269
The youtube short audience needs views.

>>748263269
The dream of humanity (men) is creating a world where they can just do whatever they want without consequences. This is a stepping stone.