>people will really look at this and say DLSS5 is shit
>>748264195what part of a basic tonemapping process requires DLSS5
>>748264195DLSS5 is shit.
I was already iffy on it, but now I understand the dislike. It has a similar effect on everything it's applied to despite being able to adjust it. I'd rather just play games and have them look the way they look by default.
the shift away from distinct artstyles toward photorealism is only going to make every single game look like the same boring open world shit
>>748264246if it were that easy to replicate with basic tonemapping then why didn't any games do that before?
>>748264485They weren't paid by NVidia?
Looks like a crappy overexposed photo. Maybe the slop filter should add some compression artifacts onto it too while it's at it. They killed gaming trying to chase after this crap.
>it takes a 7000 dollar ai card to apply unsharp mask and tonemapping
>>748264449You can disable it?It's not like. Forced on...?
>>748264195Now show a person it it
>>748264195I like how DLSS5 is basically what we had in GTA4 with photo's used as textures.That's all it is.Photos overlayed ontop of shit as textures.
>>748264195It's good for making photorealistic into even more photorealistic, but that makes your average identical ue5 assetflips into even more identical ue5 assetflips. However, I found it far more interesting when it enhances highly stylized, cartoony aesthetics like World of Warcraft. It was extremely unique, kind of like making backgrounds into paintings. Still has the drawback of muting some of the colors, but ultimately a cool look.As before, the tech is still a promise for what's to come. There's going to be a DLSS9 some day. This is the worst it' ever going to look.
>>748264689Oh my sweet summer child. If this catches on, it will become a requirement and games will look like some shovelware from the mid 2000s without it.
>>748264195I don't like it with it on. It's just too punchy and constrastyalso the tree loses a lot of details, the shadows get all flattened and it makes it look literally less realistic
>>748264545how does your statement make sense to you? elaborate
is just a different contrastkill yourself shill
>>748264840What are you talking about? Shadows are still optional in a lot of games.Raytracing has been a thing for like 7 years now and there isn't even that many games that use that.
>>748264638>>748264965answer this >>748264485
>>748264195>natural colorsvs>just dump white paint on everything lmao
>>748265005it looks like a reshade preset, you can find ton of mods that increase the contrast like that for all games
>>748264990Why would you spend time and effort making good looking graphics when you can just AI slop photo realism using DLSS5 on top of dogshit looking graphics? This saves so much money it's not even funny.
yes it is, best use case for it is to use it on older games like a new coat of paint so companies stop making shitty demakes
>>748264775And today's slop connoisseurs will eat it up
>>748264195Why can't devs increase contrast themselves?
>>748265291nice of you to assume a modern dev knows contrast is
>>748265176Because it would run like shit, be forced to have a single art style and seriously limit what you can do with your game visually.Is your suggestion that any company who would conduct themselves like this is capable of making a good game to start with?It's the same shit with coding an AI.Pretty much every development studio is making use of AI code. They didn't fire all their programmers overnight and now just produce only UE5 template games. You're being overly dramatic about an optional filter that can be applied (poorly) to very specific applications and is like a decade away from being anything any mainstream hardware can make use of.
>>748265291Because it doesn't look very good to most of the people playing the game.
>>748265451That's already what modern gaming is like. Now it's like that AND cheaper, this is BIG WIN. This tech is for AAA developers not indies making pixel shit.
>>748265543And what was the last AAA game worth playing?
>>748265574Beats me, but there are gonna be even less of them worth playing.
>>748264990Practice reasoning brownoid. Maybe read some books on critical thinking
>>748264195maybe dlss6 will look okay
>>748264195Your kind should be executed left and right for fun. You are all about graphics. You would pay 100$ for a pong remastered if the graphics were REALISTIC enough.
>>748264195Can it preserve the original coloring of the game or does it always have to nuke it with pale white light?
>>748264840>games will look like some shovelware from the mid 2000s without it.They already do, all of them
>>748265952it can, there are sliders for preserving it, but most of the time the new coloring looks better desu
>>748264195Based anti-soul gas remover. Jensen is the greatest brapsniffer known to mankind and he's using his powers for good
>>748264689Nvidia controls like 90% of the GPU market and the remainder is made up of AMD (run by the cousin of Nvidia's CEO) and Intel (partially owned by Nvidia). The entire gaming industry going forward is going to be made with this slop in mind, even if you have the option to turn it off (which won't last for long) everything is still going to look weird without it because games will be designed with it in mind.
>>748264195now post a video of henry walking towards the castle
>>748267496Your supporting or not supporting nvidia with your wallet for videogame GPUs means fuck all to them. Really it's like a charity that they're even still making graphics cards for gamers; they make so, so much more money selling to AI companies. Voting with your wallet against them is more like voting to have only AMD be your graphics card provider
>>748264689>you can disable ray tracing?Sure as long as you don't mind having worse lighting than some 7th gen games
>>748268506>is more like voting to have only AMD be your graphics card providerNot even, because AMD is doing the exact same thing. They're also making most of their money from selling to data centers/neocloud services these days. There really is no voting with your wallet, unless you just refuse to buy a GPU at all.
I have no b8 today so I'm just going to post xbox360 emulator stuff.
>>748265952It's a leaked version for niggerball, I'm sure full release will account for that. All the luddite seething is fuel for improvement.
>>748264195DLSS5 is shit
gameplay
>>748264195Yes, yes, very nice. Now show the framerate.
>dude just buy a $150k gpu so it can turn up the gamma
Framerates keep getting better flickering is basically fixed in the new mod versions I think the feeder was broken before and it wasn't taking motion vectors from luminite I think they're using rtgi versions now. 3 passes at 2k with locked 60 I'm not complaining.
>>748264195Is there at least a new DLSS coming with this version of DLSS?
>ssao but it costs 20x for some reason
>>748264195Why doesn't it just look like that by default?
>>748270996I really need to try it on emulators. I mostly play stuff old enough that the characters wouldn't get much out of it unless I was doing 50 passes but I am curious if the lighting in Gauntlet Dark Legacy and shit like Champions of Norrath would be noticeably better
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>>748264195>single frameok now lets see it in motion
>>748264689Just like you can disable raytracing, dlss upscaling, and soon framegen in every game, right anon?You people deserve what's coming to you. We warned you and you wouldn't listen.
>>748272627Yeah?Plenty of people are still using AMD poverty cards and they can't raytrace.
>>748272473Idk those look way too old PS2 is like borderline for any meaningful improvements once you get into the PS3 and up is where you start to see something other than very expensive AO and lighting adjustments.
>>748272627it's not a problem if you just upgrade your shit, at least to the RTX era (now exactly EIGHT years old). It's always poor 3rd world niggers using an ancient GTX 1060Ti or some shit who complain about frame gen, upscaling or rat racing. Because they don't have it; it's like a defense mechanism to make them feel better about not spending 2 months of their salary on a GPU. For me I spent $750 on my graphics card this year and I get mindblowing graphics that look like the most dishonest game show bullshots at 60-100fps at 1440p, and that's what I paid for. For once, I actually got what I paid for (GPU).
>>748264246do you really think op knows what this shit is doing at all?These are the type of niggers that think shadow mapping on alphas in old games and dust in serious sam hd is black magic just because modern engines shit their pants when it's time to do it. A decade of dogshit unreal 5 games have buck broken this generation
>>748264246With enough tweaking, tonemapping can individually do that to the grass, or the castle, or the sky. But not all of them together at once.
>>748265059Show one
>>748264195>overcontrast anti-soul beam
>>748273810it meets with the anti-soul gas and both are neutralized.
REEngine is ass. Doom TDA has forced RT and the performance is still good. Even Crimson Desert has a fallback instead of just outright turning off lighting like that turd. Upscaling looks better than TAA 99% of the time and you can still do DLAA if you hate 'fake pixels'. Lumen in UE5 is also customizable but devs are shit at it.
>>748273508I have a 4070ti super. I had a 2080 before that. I had a 1080ti before that and 780 before that and SLI 580s before that and a 480 before that and a 9800 before that and a 6800 Ultra Extreme before that and you're a retard. I've been buying these GPUs with my own money since before you were even born. I am retired now and could still buy more 5090s than your entire bloodline could ever dream of affording.You're exactly why games push out system reqs with DLSS performance and framegen enabled now, why a brand new game can release and a 5090 -- a $10,000 GPU that was MSRP at $2,000 -- can barely run resolutions and framerates we were targeting in games 10 years ago. Remember the 1080ti? That released in early 2017. That GPU was running games at 4k native at 60fps. It was $700. You're defending the idea that over 9 years, we are playing games at lower resolutions, at the same framerate, with lower visual fidelity, for 2,000 (actually 10,000$). You are a slave. You either forgot how good you had it or you were never here to have it in the first place and want to lecture people on how they value their money and what principles they have.>For me I spent $750 on my graphics card this year and I get mindblowing graphics that look like the most dishonest game show bullshots at 60-100fps at 1440pI bought my 780 for less money than that and got higher framerates than that over 13 years ago. >b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but grafix are BETTER!!No the fuck they aren't. That's the worst part.Like I said. You are a slave. You people deserve what's coming to you.
>>748264195Before: OkayAfter: Okay, but with more contrastSorry, this is worth all my FPS because?
>>748264689Are you asking a question, or just typing like a bitch?
>>748264485They did, there was even some scammy patreon modder offering this kind of shit for Cyberpunk 2077 years ago
>>748264195Unironically looks better off. The dlss5 version looks like a googles streetview photo, and thats probably the data it was trained on too, for outdoor environments.
I've dropped a ton of good looking games because their gameplay wasn't good enough. I've never dropped a game with good gameplay because the graphics weren't lifelike enough. It's a neat trick but yet another distraction from the fact that actual gameplay quality is at an all time low across AAA and indie alike.
>>748264195>static imageEvery time.
>>748269326refusing to buy a gpu at all wouldnt even help. last year the gaming side of nvidia was something like less than 5% of their total overall revenue, it might have even been less than 1%. They have zero reason to give a fuck about gamers. If every consumer stopped buying nvidia gpu's they'd just look at it as that much more fab allocation to make cards that sell for $10k+ to datacenters
>uuuhhh duhhhhhh buuuuuuuuhhhhhhh this is a generational leapnigga people have been modding games to look way better than this for years. reshade, LUTs, ENBs, all kinds of modshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9UKt_qtzvchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZctUy-SfPwhell even these modded setups get shit on all the time for being made to look gaudy and overdone and too photorealistic for no reason. and you expect me to think making all my game look like the same image gen sloppa is impressive? gay larping newfags i swear
>>748274874Oh, okay I'll type more simple for an ESL to understand.Did you know it can be disabled? It's an optional setting point of fact it's not even officially enabled yet, it's a third party mod. It's not a mandatory feature by any means, and has never claimed to be as such.
>>748275263Yeah but you can add DLSS5 on top of those too
>>748274769Trvke.
>>748275328and it will make those look like the same ai sloppa it does everything else? most ENBs and LUTs and reshades are tuned for a specific style anyways, not pure realism. making them all look the same completely defeats the point. no thanks
>>748275403No. You apply your LUT after the DLSS5 pass.
>>748275460equally pointless
>>748275427>>748275427>>748275427
>>748264195It's so fucking funny the entire western economy is betting on this tech creating a sentient being that will fix everything.
>>748275552>new thread when current one is under 100Why? Maybe kill yourself instead of flooding the board?
>>748275610SHEEEEEIT
>>748274769>graphics were better bang for your buck back thenWhat are we gonna do about it? huh?? Vote with your wallet? lol >>748268506Fact is, we get absolutely photorealistic graphics at playable frame rates from the 4000 series onward that works in ANY game, and if you deny that's good then you're a fucking retard
what effect does it have on me other than slicing my framerate down by 80%
>>748275403Name 3 games that came out in the past 10 years that can be enhanced with ENBs
>>748275662NTA but he was right, you are mentally and spiritually a slave.
>>748275698I guess it would have no effect on you if you never even wanted the level graphics that AAA game developers have strived for for the past 30 years. or if you just can't run it. That's more likely it.
>>748275610bitter
>>748275662>What are we gonna do about it?We? You can I are different. You can do whatever you want with your money. But don't sit here and criticize people who actually value their money or have principles when you're paying 15x more for an inferior version and value proposition of what I got a decade ago. You're a retard. A genuine mind-raped slave that doesn't know any better. I'm about to dump the fattest, smelliest shit on this spoon and airplane it right down your faggot throat. Nobody gives a fuck that shadows and textures and meshes are slightly higher res, that LoDs are slightly higher quality, that draw distance reaches out 10 meters further, that the light bounces slightly more "photorealistically". You want to know the funny thing? For all this posturing you do about "omgzzz grafix are so realistic and pretty now!" we've made concession in legitimate visual fidelity and game design. Games have hyperfocused on realism so much that the worlds are no longer interactive. The AI is now horrendous. The things we actually do and what is possible in these games have been sacrificed for this meaningless pursuit of "muh grafix". Do you remember Far Cry? Were you even born then? Do I really need to start linking fucking crowbcat videos for you, idiot? You know what non-larping non-newfag non-failed normalfag people who enjoy playing video games care about? Fun and value. Graphics never made a game good. Art style matters more, always has, always will, and people like you used to be mocked relentlessly even by normalfags. You exist only to make things worse and then arrogantly proclaim to everyone around you how much better things are getting. At one point in my life people like you disgusted me. I now watch you in pity; you're completely unaware of the future you're enabling and happy about it.
>>748275820Bullshit, I've had the same principles all my 38 years and I support results, not feelings. You follow your feelings like a woman and care about le """fake""" / """soul""". What I see is 60+ fps total realism (or just Pixar quality 3D, for stylized) at high resolutions that can be modded + customized into fucking Max Payne 3 and Final Fantasy X as well as turn the best looking new games like AC Black Flag remake into Pixar or at least episodes of Love Death and Robots. You are a faggot nobody should listen to if you try and paint this as bad over of your nostalgia / feelings. Or especially if you are just being dishonest because you can't have it. Results are results. Imagery is imagery. DLSS5 haters are bitches.
>>748276126>for an inferior versionlollmao
>>748276126Here's your absolutely ruined artstyle-first game.
>>748276127>38 years old and obsessed with Pixarthe gall for you to call someone else a faggot is really funny
>>748276242nice deflection
The part where it halves your framerate and introduces input latency
>>748276273It actually cuts your framerate in like 1/3-1/4. Even worse it's a flat latency cost so the better your system performs the worse the effect will be. For anyone running 60-144hz it has a higher added input latency than even using framegen from 30>60 causes. So it's actually funny that people keep saying "poorfag" when it noticeably tanks the performance of high end systems worse than it does mid-range ones.Most posters use really disingenuous comparisons and don't show long format videos of it for a reason. There's tons of testing done on it on Youtube already, you can see for yourself. But there's a reason you just see the same handful of people post the same dozen or so webms/gifs here.
>>748276273worth it
>>748276416I've tried it out myself on my own computer so I'm not really looking to convince or be convinced. It's not worth the tradeoff and has some funny hiccups from time to time. That's all.Maybe in the future it will work, but not yet.
>>748276242I edited it wrong and forgot to delete that 2nd pixar reference. It makes stylized games look like big budget movies though, that was the point
>>748264638It wasn't $7k if you bought in early. Should have saved your money earlier
>i-it looks bad in motion though!
>dlss 5 is le shit
>>748276770Why did they even bother investing in raytracing and pathtracing when this is clearly better?
>Wow dude this tech looks lit af when you use it on one of the best looking games of this generationThanks jewvidia
>>748276712why does max look like he has poop smeared on his face
I dunno why everyone's complaining about performance. This is a feature meant for the best NVIDIA cards (like 4070+), even though it can run on older ones via mods. And if you have one of those cards, you can play it at 60-120fps (depending on how much frame gen you're comfortable with) at 1440p. 4k on the 5090.Frame gen basically negates the bad performance on these cards. You're fucking retarded if you won't use it (or upscaling) and will deride it because of your """principles""" about """fake""" frames
>>748276827because you're blind and stupid. That's his beard in a 800Mbps webm. Or you want a high quality screenshot maybe?
>>748264195>hurr hurr it's just reshade>literally does perfectly realistic tone-mapping on the fly for every scene>adds extra detail to textures>emulates global illumination>near path-traced tier ambient occlusion addedMan. Poorfags are really seething about this one, aren't they? I give it like 4 years and a new affordable generation of gpu's before everyone starts using this tech regardless of their sneed and cope here.
>>748276939>800Mbps*800Kbps
>>748264195i've always thought postprocessing looked badfull screen color adjustment filter?turn it offhdr*? *temporal bloomturn it offmotion blur?turn it offfull screen sharpening?turn it offdepth of field?turn it offchromatic abberration?turn it offvignette?turn it offtemporal anti aliasing?turn it offin no world did i ever want a postprocess layer in the way of the videogame that i'm trying to see and playdlss is yet another layer of obstruction that i'm not interested in, ever
>>748276939this part of his face is brown because of his beard and the bitrate? tell me more, i want to see you try and rationalize this in real time
>>748277050What the fuck are you even talking about? You are circling nothing and pretending something is there. Fuck off, retard
>>748271896what game is this
>>748271896>>748277106Bulletwitch, anon
>>748276895>This is a feature meant for the best NVIDIA cards (like 4070+)You mean the 60 series because deleting half of the framerate is too much. Running it at 60-120fps means you could be running it at 120+ fps instead. The resolution scaling is neat though and allows you to make a quality tradeoff for performance.
>>748277129thanks gonna check it out looks like early mid 2000s kino
>>748277218>Running it at 60-120fps means you could be running it at 120+ fps insteadTrue, this makes it totally unusable.just kidding LOL
>>748264195>the future will require $50,000 computers so that you are capable of running inefficient games which are entirely "vibe coded" by Indians, where the art has been created entirely by an Indian who just prompted an AI, all while constantly running DLSS5 (or 6 7 ayyy!) in the background to enhance the graphics to a level that no one even cares about except (((shareholders))) who will never play a video game in their lifeI can't wait.
>>748277243npnp
>>748277310Is this kingdom cum: delivered to your door?
>>748277093so you're just blind and retarded. gotcha
>>748277362Yeah
>>748277310wow google maps street view! with the same conveyance of motion!
>>748277310It's basically the same situation as DLSS 4/4.5 upscaler where it has bigger performance impact on the 30 and 20 series compared to the 40 and 50 series.
>>748277541Google maps street view is literally photographs of real life
>>748277603yeah! exciting!
>>748264195Graphics became "good enough" in the 7th gen. Developers should be focusing on fun gameplay instead.
>>748276126>Art style matters more, always has, always willYou can make games with artstyles look better. They aren't automatically perfect graphics upon release just because they're not realistic style.
>free remastersI-I guess...
>>748276807If they never invested in those then we'd never have gotten AI. They need the same hardware
>>748278037unironically yes
>>748264195DLSS 5 is kino
>>748278037>set it to pajeet AI slop settings>it looks like pajeet AI slopno shit
>>748277106Its like blood rayne not as jewish but just as jank
>Dick licking stupid slut 5WOW
>>748278584
>>748279057
>>748278971dlss 5 can do this too?!
>>748279057>dlss makes less emphasis on the titsfaggot gay tech indeed
>>748279129it makes the skin look realistic, what did you want? beads of sweat? (me too)
>>748279159nah you are retarded, it makes the image all wrong. why is her face more visible? the sun is literally behind her and she has a hat on. absolute retard tech for morons.
>>748279217I wasn't looking at her face. faggot
>>748279281yeah you are blind and retarded spamming garbage tech without seeing it makes it all worse get fucked
>"DLSS is shit"Yet none of you can show games which look better without it enabled.
>>748279319I was responding to a post about tits, I literally don't care faggot
>>748279363you literally care, and I made the post about tits. fuck you and your shitty tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsKCCrodp7s
>>748279350all the games look better without it. that was easy.
>>748279398You're mad because the tits aren't sweaty, I get it. I'm just disappointed. Get your priorities in order, faggot
>>748279434show me a game on your PC that looks better.
>>748279443your mums sweaty tits are my priority
>>748279476>mumlmao your country is being invaded by browns and there's NOTHING you can do about it. Raped
>>748279463all of them as I said. this tech ruins the image.
>>748277914that isn't DLSS 5
>>748279507Show me, like I asked
>>748279504how are those deportations going buddy? what are the official numbers? 500 nationally this week? oh, they stopped reporting them? wonder why
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>>748279217Her face shouldn’t look so dark with the ground being fucking white concrete that reflects so much sunlight
>>748279583How's your 2nd amendment going? oh right
>>748279585>can't show me just as I thought
>>748279603i don't have cameras reporting to palantir on every street, unlike you pal
>>748279643Yes you do retard lmfao. At least we have guns to fight back. You just get stabbed on the trolley
>>748264195Isn’t it just ENB but requires thousands of dollars of hardware to run?
>>748279682an ENB requires thousands of dollars of hardware to run
>>748279667i don't though, classic american education at work here
>>748264195The gigacope from AMDtards is hilarious
>There are people here who will say the left is better than the right
>>748274528RE Engine is a god tier engine, keep coping.
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>>748279682saying dlss 5 is just an enb is a compliment. look at the amount of complex shit it does with shaders on Skyrim
>>748264195Being impressive =/= being not shit.Nobody is saying that DLSS5 is not hella impressive. Being able to pop it into basically any game, and get high end graphics? That's cool as shit in concept. Nobody says otherwise unless they are severely retarded. The problem is that it completely fucking kills any intended look the devs might have been going for, and exchanges it with "generic realistic". I'm sure DLSS5 will also offer "generic cartoon" "generic anime" generic whatever. But it won't be the style the devs intended, and you will be fucking sick of every game looking like that. If you ever played asset flips and felt like you've seen this all a hundred times, you will know what I'm talking about. It's a cool tech demo gimmick. Just like Motion smoothing is a cool gimmick on TVs. But only people who want to ruin the extended experience for themselves will ever turn it on. This is a feature for dads. People who don't "get" why something looks a certain way, and just turn every feature to "on".
Anyone running dlss5 on a 3080 with playable framerates?
>>748279853That Yuna is gonna haunt my fucking nightmares.
You now remember N3
>>748279906What is the intended look of the game? My 4k path traced version or your ultra low settings 1080p version?
>>748264195>removes the anti-soul gasSOUL
>>748279741You will
>the games people keep showing it off on are shit gamesi'm noticing a trend
>>748264195it looks worse than nortubel
>>748280075>>748280161FF15 is pure soul
>>748280161It looked really good in Elden Ring environments but I didn't save the photos because I don't really care
>>748279906Better shaders, GI, and shadows aren’t photorealism. The photorealistic feel in DLSS games is largely from the tone mapper intensity, and you can tweak it
>>748264485game devs are shit
>>748280161>the mod is shit>oh wait the games are shit too what game would would you class as a good game?
>>748280218>Nooo! You can tweak the AI shit filter to not make everything look like AI shitSure thing. Is this why every single DLSS5 comparison looks like AI shit? Did they all forget to "tweak it"? I think the only one tweaking here is you.
>>748280295most do , yes. 90% of the images and videos have it set to default or max settings with multi-pass enabled.
>>748280295Cope
>>748264195>grass turns into wheat
>>748280295it's free. why not try it by yourself?
>>748280405if you had a higher resolution screen you would see that the yellow grass was always there
>>748280202>>748280213>ff15>elden ringcase in point>>748280260castlevania sotn is pretty good. i just replayed breath of fire 1-4 too, 3 and 4 are so kino it's unreal. how's it look in those?
>>748280445>castlevania sotnYou want a DX12 DLSS mod to run on a 2D side scroller?
>>748264485They did. That's why you know what tonemapping even is, because they've been doing it. You just think it should be done differently because a company trying to sell you a product tells you their version is better.
>>748264195this image is proof that game devs overdo the atmosphere fog to fake distance and suck at color correction
>>748280436>copes
>>748280476oh so it doesn't make all games look better? only makes modern slop look more... modern? sounds useless. why not just play good vidya?
>>748280494>sell you a productwhat product are they selling people with a mod?
>>748280545I'm sorry. I'm not poor enough to play your games.
>>748275296>gets called a faggot for being hyper defensive>doubles down by being extra condescendingjej and you call him the esl
I am so fucking tired of memetech after memetech. DLAA is the only decent thing they've come up with in a decade and even that still has massive issues with ghosting.
>>748280445what games do you want to see, anon? instead of being a contrarian, state what you want. You're acting like a woman
>>748280603He can't run "modern" games on his iGPU
>>748277558>compared to the 40 and 50 series.In case of DLSS5 50 will be in the same place as 40 was for DLSS4. Next major update to DLSS5 includes optimized model making use of NVFP4 units introduced in Blackwell, which will stop it from raping the performance. 60 will surely be even more optimized for neural rendering, but anyone saying 50 series won't be able to do DLSS5 effectively is a coping poorfag/waitfag.
i love LOVE how mad this technology makes weebs
>>748280295It's just randomfags who are setting it up, not devs, so yes they make it look like shit in most cases.The two things it seems great at are local ambient shadows, and hair rendering. From the demos, it improved semi-translucents as well, but I haven't seen that replicated. I hope it doesn't get used for more than these in real games>>748280405It actually did a good job of fixing the colours in the scene. What a developer should do is choose a few decent, run DLSS5 from a static camera angle, then use that to fix the original scene (meaning people get a better result without having to use DLSS5 themselves)
>this is what some third world indian is seething at you and calling your a poorfag for saying looks like shit
>>748280598You faggots said the same thing about raytracing. Just admit your poor and shut the fuck up already
>>748280710Yes we're aware there's a large number of people on this site whose only joy left in life is watching life get worse for everyone else. It's a mystery why you bother staying alive.
>>748280963How is AI making your life worse? It practically halved my workload and I got a $30,000 bonus from it last year
>>748280896this version is better, poorfag?
>>748280950Raytracing is still a dogshit resource hog, you're just proving my point.
>>748281000Not using AI allowed me to win the lottery and turned my dick into gold
>>748281018So were real time shadows back in 2002
>>748281018>everything my AYEMDEE PC can't run is a dogshit resource hog because I only play 2D games and text adventures
>>748281031why would you want a gold dick?
>>748281072So he only plays good games?
>>748281087Yes, they're good games if you're from Botswana anan
>>748281072You shills know this works on all video cards right
>>748281118lmao shut up dickhead
>>748281068Now you're just making shit up.From the wikipedia page for Severance: Blade of Darkness, the first game to use realtime shadows:>It received high marks for its graphics, particularly the lighting effects of real-time shadows. Character animation was done via motion capture. The texturing was very well done, although the game does not utilize larger texture sizes (anything above 256x256, whereas other games already used 1024x1024 resolution with texture compression in 2000–2001). The soundtrack of the game allegedly contains non-copyrighted samples, which were also used in many commercials, soap operas and other media worldwide. Overall, a relatively powerful computer for its time (the minimum requirements were a P2 400 MHz and 64MB of RAM) was required to fully experience all of the features. This game is the first and only game that can perform water reflection wave effects only using DirectX 7.0 hardware (Geforce 2 or Radeon 7500; perhaps even Nvidia RIVA TNT is enough to perform water effects at the same quality level like in DirectX 8 or higher).
>>748281087>>>/vr/you have to go back
>>748281074White wasn't an option
>>748264195First of all it changed the color temperature of the scene. Second, the rocks somehow look faker. Third, its too overdetailed in the distance.
>>748281175>the sky looks too atmospheric >the grass looks too grassy >the castle looks too castly >the rock is too rocky
>>748281175If you were to show someone the "off" image they would think it was a video gameIf you were to show someone the "on" image they would think it was a photo
>>748281258>wheat is off-white in real life
>>748264195The image looked better before.You have shit for brains anon.
There is no discussion to be had with poorfags. It's better to just post your screenshots and watch them melty
>>748281215Yes. Just like this burger is too burgery.
>>748281542>food analogy
>>748281550You don't wash down a happy meal with merlot
>>748281580I don't eat happy meals
AyyMD tards are so retarded they call this shit a simple reshade filter when no amount of reshade shader combinations can make them look as good as a properly configured DLSS 5
You all realize that DLSS5 isn't intended for consumer GPUs right? It's intended for cloud gaming.
>>748281746Ok it's a very complex reshade filter. That costs 40% of your performance. And changes based on lighting and distance.
why do jeets love realismslop so much?
>>748281751>cloud gaming
>>748281771 no. it has nothing to do with reshade either. reshade was the easiest way to get access to the controls in the nvidia .dll
>>748281771>That costs 40% of your performanceeverytimewithout fail
>>748281810Correct
>>748281843retard
>>748281771a "good" rtgi reshade shader costs the same for worse results
>enter dlss thread>nonstop seething about AMD and people begging me to buy a new GPUCrazy how low this board has fallen
>>748281928That's because an RTGI filter is actually using raytracing, where DLSS5 is just throwing the frame into chatGPT and telling it to make it more real
>>748281970Nobody is begging you, we're making fun of you for not buying when it was affordable
>>748281993>It's just doing [insert thing it's not doing here] the retarded cope response
>>748281970>enter modern tech thread>bbbut
>>748281998Still not a single game I can't play on my 4080. Why should I upgrade?
>>748282041Why should we care what you do with a 4080?
>>748282041I don't care, in fact you probably shouldn't. I wouldn't spend $7k on a GPU
>>748281998It was never affordable. GPUs haven't been affordable in 10 years. You're bad with money and a sucker.
>>748282041>enters thread about DLSS 5>How do I make this about me?austism
>>748264195Actuqlly looks LESS realistic
>>748282057>hey this thing looks like shit>HAHAHA YOU'RE JUST POOR>i have a 4080 tho>WHY SHOULD I CARE WHAT YOU HAVE? HUH?
>>748282082Did you get rich by not buying a GPU?
>>748282082I bought my 5090 for $1.5k, if that's unaffordable to you get a new hobby, please
>>748282000kek
>>748282113link where someone called you poor
>>748282118what res (without dlss) and framerates are you playing your new games at?
>>748273568What are you talking about? What does it mean to shadow map on alphas? And what do you mean by dust?
What next? Just make a lowpoly model and slap AI filter on it?
>>748281993and? it still looks worse and it's all meaningless because it's screenpace RT which is retarded
>>748282167Yes. That was the plan all along.
>>748282154Why would I not use a feature of my flagship GPU?
>>748282167It does not magically generate more polygons
>>748282118I bought a fucking car for $1.5k. Get your priorities straight.
>>748282149"amd" and "poor" have been mentioned in this thread like 30 times blindanon
>>748273915>>748273810keki see it now
>>748282221>because I'm poor and stupid and can't afford nice things>that means other people are also too poor and stupid to afford nice things
>>748282221That's cute. that's how much my 3rd car cost 15 years ago
>>748282180reshade shader vs dlss 5 to be clear
>>748282243So where was it mentioned to you? that's what you said in your post that you were called poor. Also I didn't know AMD made the 4080.
>>748282221Shut the fuck up buy my fucking GPU or else
>>748278037what the fuck they even gave his wrinkles wrinkles
>>748282140It doesn't work properly with Yakuza games for some reason. It's the only game I won't use DLSS5 with (so far from testing)
>>748282206I didn't say you can't use it, I was just asking a question. What's the problem?
>>748282298Yeah it's cursed when you increase the passes. I accidently set Prey 2006 to x10 passes once and it was pure nightmare fuel. I didn't know how to turn it off and it was genuinely unnerving me
>>748279906No the problem is that the technology sucks
>>748282315I always use DLSS Quality for the framerate boost, looks great at 4k. My monitors max at 240hz and it varies wildly by game. How did you expect me to accurately answer that? Always above 70-80 without framegen, more often closer to 200-240
>>748274769this btfos every single shill in the thread so hard they pretend it never got posted holy kek
>>748282365>DLSS sucks so much that the people who can run it use it in every game they can
>>748282376The original Dead Space looks great with DLSS 5
>>748282262It's not a nice thing though. It's a sucker thing. My games on my 12 year old $600 GPU look exactly the same as your games.
>>748282384> How did you expect me to accurately answer that?Was a pretty simple question no? I just asked what you run games like at native 4k without upscaling. Why are you so defensive and argumentative about that?
>>748282426I have too many CPU cores so it doesn't launch and I can't be arsed fucking around with dodgy .dll files off someones google drive to fix it
>>748264195>this is only a single frame>the contrast hurts my eyes>anyway, destroys the original artistic visionDLSS5 is useless. You are just paying more for the hardware supporting this shit.I wish they would sell GPUs with more raw power without the tech used for AI and mining, but I am forced to pay for shit I don't use.
>>748282427your 12 year old gpu would run out of memory just running my resolution
>>748282440No you didn't retard
>>748282426This samefag marketer keeps uploading gifs with no labels because he wants you to think different = good. No, different = bad. When it completely changes the lighting and color temperature of a scene, that is a shit fucking filter that only a tasteless moron would enable.
>>748264195DLSS5 looks like shit
>>748264195Imagine turning every game into NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN
>>748282489>stop modding gamesPCpoors have done a quick 180' on modding now. interesting
>>748282478>what res (without dlss) and framerates are you playing your new games at?
>>748282463>tonemapping: offGo back to consoles nigga
>>748282519Why would anyone choose not to use DLSS?
>>748282515Who's modding the game though? You don't know what DLSS5 is going to do. You get a slider that goes from no to yes and you fiddle with it until you get something that you pretend looks good, but you're not really in control. You don't know what those sliders are actually doing. Nobody does.
>>748276712Yes. That looks bad.
>>748276127You're a genuinely revolting faggot.
>>748282489>t. tranny who probably has 400 Skyrim mods installed that turned it into a completely different game
>>748282578The only official DLSS 5 game is NBA. All the rest of the images and videos are from modding it.
>>748280553An RTX 5090
>>748282554>why would anyone choose to play at native res?The goyim have gone insane. I'm not asking you to permanently play with it off. I, out of curiosity, asked what games run like with it off. Do you understand yet or do I need to slow down?
>>748282554Probably because I don't want people to turn into grapes at long distances.
>>748282489coping poorfag
>>748280368I respect DLSS5's ability to turn literally any girl into a busted old hag.
>>748282612Can you post what you mean? I run DLSS quality in every game. I don't see a difference with that and native.
>>748282607Correct. And that game LOOKS LIKE SHIT.
This was 10 years ago and cost $700 and didn't require goyscaling or fake frames. Don't let the marketers gaslight you.
>>748282651On looks better though?
>>748282598
>>748264195>literally increases contrastWhy do this when you can just turn up the gamma?
>>748282686Go turn up the contrast and gamma on a game and post a screenshot of it looking the same as a DLSS 5 image
>>748282645Turn DLSS off and tell me what the framerates are like. As in, go into the video settings, turn "DLSS" or "Upscalers" to "Off", run a game a "3840x2160" native resolution, then tell me what the framerates are like. Do you need me to come help you step by step?
>>748282671No it doesn't. The image shows the consistency. At far distances, DLSS5 turns the guy into jerky.
>>748282718You post it. I know what things look like on my PC. I want to see what you're getting mad about.
>>748270996whate game?
>>748282745>aghh, uhhm, uhhhhhh, you're just mad OK?lol you knew what was coming and conceded before even getting humiliated. too bad
>>748282720no it doesn't. You're making things up because you're coping
>>748282776I'm not your mother, I don't run around because you make stupid demands. You're the one getting mad about something. Post what you're mad about and show me.
>>748282672I run all my games at 30fps anyway, so the FPS hit doesn't bother me
>>748282519>I just asked what you run games like at native 4k without upscalingYou asked what framerates, I answered that. Retard. I also told you I use my GPU features, like DLSS Quality mode. goalpost moving faggot
>>748282720
>>748264195AHHHH !!!!! its just a filter!!!! AI is bad, karl marx said so!!!!!!! also i am poor!!!!!!!
>>748282840>ask for res without dlss>gives me res with dlss>"yea but I said without dlss">aaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeee stop moving the goalposts!!!!!you people humiliate yourselves for free
>>748282902post your cyberpunk path tracing overdrive fps
>>748282902DLAA runs at a perfect 240fps. Is that what you wanted to hear? I don't get it
>>748282871What the fuck am I supposed to glean from a 2043x1463 resized image? This bitch's quest is over because all the artifacts are right here.
>>748264195Its fine with games that aren't cartoon or anime. That's most of the gripes.
>>748282947>what am I supposed to get from your image>but my image proves it's bad ok
>>748282884It literally is just a filter though? >DLSS 5 takes a game’s color and motion vectors for each frame as input, and uses an AI model to infuse the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame. DLSS 5 runs in real time at up to 4K resolution for smooth, interactive gameplay.
>>748282980I don't think you understood the point
>>748283143Distant objects lose detail? who knew?
>>748264195on hurts my eyes, too brightmaybe it's exclusively for people with turd eyes
>>748283019the issue is the argument itself, because it doesnt make a difference if its a filter or not
>it doesn't matter that it's not consistent, it's more detailed and more detail means betterI refuse to believe anyone is this stupid. How do I get a job posting bullshit on the internet I'd probably be better at it than you fuckers.
>>748283401why didn't you respond to the person?
>>748283259It might legitimately be an issue of people using shitty TN panel walmart monitors.I have the best 4k monitor money can buy. Or at least it was last year. I also have an old Dell Ultrasharp IPS from 2014 and the color's starting to go a bit and IPS always had kinda shit contrast anyway. DLSS5 doesn't look too bad on the IPS panel, but still noticeably off. On the QOLED it's just straight ass, every single color is wrong.
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>>7482834013
>>7482834014
Anti soul bleach effect
>>748283607>>748283621>>748283646>>748283662Side by side nigger I'm not going to do your work for you.
>>748283707No. I can see it with my own eyes you're full of shit.
>>748283528Doesn't DLSS detect your monitor and adjust to it?
>>748283607>>748283621>>748283646>>748283662Nice samefagging, the rest of us have to wait 60 seconds between posts.
>>748283816Wat? No. How on earth would it do that? The monitor itself doesn't even know what colors it's displaying, that's why there are calibration profiles.
>>748283834Obviously. are you retarded? it's just a guy posting screenshots
>>748282824The poojoo doing the novida marketing hates saturation apparently, looks like ass
>>748283875Yes, someone posting screenshots faster than is typically allowed, indicating they're using multiple machines to do it, indicating they've been using multiple machines this entire thread.
>>748283872I meant for HDR. I don't know why you think the colors are off. It's 3 different models trained on real images.
>>748283903ok schizo
>>748283621This image is a pretty good example of how it doesn't handle environments very well. There's a halo of light around the character, the tower, the trees, almost everything. And for some reason it eliminates the volumetric fog, but everything the fog was covering is still lit up/desaturated like it is obscured by the fog? Compare the trees on the left, directly behind the character censor's smoke. With DLSS5 on they, the grass, and ground below basically lose all shadowing.It has a long way to go in approximation of "accurate" lightning, and it's pretty clear it can't really deal with volumetric effects and post-processing in games well.
>>748283903Or it's a janny doing marketing, it's all this shithole site is now, like reddit a marketing platform for slop and slop ideas
>>748283881>pissfilter is good nowlmao@AMDjeets
>>748283953look at the pass count, it says 2. It's running double what it's supposed to.
>>748283903You really thought these threads weren't blatant marketing/shilling? Every single thread is the same maybe 2-3 DLSS shills looping all thread saying the same shit posting the same comparisons and replying the same way to everyone. Any time someone actually writes a long criticism they just ignore it and go for the low hanging fruit to bait people into replying so they can keep the thread bumped. They also make multiple threads at a time yet they never get pruned. Curious, isn't it?
Look at you all determined that it's:>samefagging >jannies>marketershave you heard of a 4ch pass you stupid fucks?
>>748284072The criticisms are all the same too. Must mean everyone is a shill lmao.
>>748264195DLSS this, come on, try it. I'll wait.
>>748284012Lol I refuse to buy novida just because they hire poojoos like you to market their slop, also your screens look like a pissfilter
>>748264195>puts the entire scene in an oven
>>748283929That's the problem, it's trained on real images. Real images aren't real. Monitors can't display every color, even the best ones, and because of that most images don't even try. A big part of digital design is getting around this handicap by setting a scene and using color intelligently, because the human brain will just naturally compensate if you do it right. But DLSS5 tries to drag it all back to "real".>>748284017That explains why you can see the hag lines from space.
>>748264195>DUDE SHARPENINGfuck off
>>748284114>The criticisms are all the same tooSee: >>748283953What's unoriginal about this criticism?
>>748284142As long as you're happy running the console version that's what counts
>When a bunch of poorfags try and argue that they're having it the best by not being able to run a mod lmao
>>748284114The employed can never win against the unemployed, because you have a life and we don't.
>>748284072what is your long argumented critic on these>>748276770>>748278509
My ENB preset looks way better than this amateurish attempt at a post process improvement
>a poorfag can't run my settings. I will have to stop using them to make them feel betterlmao
>>748284192It's really sad. They try to convince themselves everyone enjoying this is just a paid shill. insane coping lengths
>>748284206I'm a comfy NEET with a $3000 PC toying around with DLSS 5 for fun.
>>748284320show
>>748284367I'm just one of you saars, please redeem the GPU
>>748284298It changes the entire direction of the source lighting.This is because DLSS5 isn't capable of processing the entire image at once, it can only process small parts at a time. It doesn't see a light source, it sees a shadow pointing in a direction, or it sees an edge where one side is lighter and one side is darker.In this image, why are all the shadows pointing straight down, yet the corner of the background building is casting a side shadow? That's not how light works. And the shadows are so intense the lighting might as well be baked in.
>when you realise the ones talking like a jeet are actually jeets
As an AMD user, I think the dlss5 stuff is neat.
>>748284520no it doesn't.
>>748284536No u are desi saar I am brahmin white man boughtening 5090
>>748284520Sorry , don't care about your cope. Still using it. faggot
>>748284607Yes yes the classic shill script, you get owned and you just spam insults until bump limit.
>>748284125That would require playing the game, and we don't do that here.
>>748264195real life doesn't look like that
>>748284660You don't have a point. Nothing you say is of any value at all. You're just a seething faggot acting like a scorned woman bitching about things you don't have access to. Why would anyone listen to your retarded excuses of why you dislike something you can't afford?
>>748282396Yeah they use it to shitpost
>>748284554Most normal amd user
>>748284764>they play games with it just to upset us poorfagsno. but it's a nice bonus
>>748264485different tastes
>>748284803>upset poorfagswhy would the poorfags be upset about shitposts showing how bad the tech is?god they send the lowest iq monkeyskins to shill here
>>748284520The only small inconsistency in this comparison is the shadow of the building in the background. Everything else makes sense and looks way better than with DLSS off. What about the other 2 comparisons?
The only thing OP makes me think is how blatantly bad nu devs are are contrast, they are deathly afraid of dark shadows and bright highlights.Its wild how common that is in vidya.
>>748284859>the tech is so bad that I spend my days in its threads acting like a seething faggot what an awesome life you live anon.
>>748284536Or probably brown/south east asian. Indians are the only ones they can pick on in the racial totem pole.
>>748284860>Slop filtered slop demake
>>748284893Your insistence to get in the last word while also not reading any of what I say tells me that you are seething the hardest of anyone here
>>748284861Wait the one with the intense shadows was OFF? What the fuck?
>>748284991Lol nigger seethe
>>748285002I don't care what you have to say. It's just one huge none-stop whine about something you can't run. What do you have to tell me which is so important?
>>748285019no
after years of pushing Raytracing as the next big thing, Nvidia adds a Thot Filter that fucks up lightingit's funny and just proof of how Nvidia is a scam company. Jensen isn't serious about any of this TECHNOLOGY he just chases scams that make him richer, like the cryptocurrency mining bubble before the current AI bubble.
>>748284706DLSS shill should do that instead of posting random game picture with dlss enhanced baka.
>>748264195Because its shit, why would you play vidya game with photorealistic graphic? For what reason would you want to mimic real life graphic so damn much I would never understand.
>>748285163>We developed a technology that simulates every individual photon as it travels from its light source and refracts off every object in the scene.>And then we ran it through chatGPT and told it to make it more realActual psychopath behavior.
>DLSS 5 has been modded for nearly a month now and poors are still in full seething mode. Will it continue until DLSS 6, only time will tell
>>748285239What's extra funny is that if you watch enough news and sports, you know that even real life broadcasts enhance the image. It's most noticeable with Trump, he's a completely different shade of orange on every station even during the same live event. NOBODY wants realistic graphics, even when they're watching real life, because a screen is fundamentally worse than real life.
