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Can't wait for the inevitable
>You think you want classic models, but you don't
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>>748278572
>Could have had a classic remake that looks like this
>instead make a horrible mishmash between retail and vanilla
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>>748278572
There really was no worse way to introduce "classic+" than this and I can only thank them for making it a very easy choice to continue not giving them my money
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>>748278572
no one plays blue elves when every other race has good racials but they dont
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I'm having a blast. We are so back. Wowbros we're going home. Not paying $60 for the beta is poorfag cope
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I like it because it lets me know which players to instantly avoid, and also the likelihood of female skyborne players being troons is extremely high.
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>>748278630
BC is when WoW looked it's best.
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>>748278745
It's more than just skyborne. All the datamined raid tiers, weapons, creature models, mopunts etc. look like they came from retail
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>>748278572
In that specific case i blame them being retarded with extending class access to all races to the point where they have to actually create a manbearowlpig thing for a race which didn't need druids because their schtick was magic.
Already even in vanilla tauren druids were an asspull, just like undead priests and many other things they've chosen to include in the game for faction balance and gameplay reasons and the more they stray from the RTS's lore the more their game won't have an actual story and game world for players to immerse themselves in.
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>>748278572
Just use mods to fix it.
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Undead pally mount
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>>748278920
>getting undead paladins before death knights
lol fucking retard company
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>>748278920
Imagine being a human paladin riding up next to this thing on that dogshit 2004 horse ahahahah
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>>748278572
>after before
What's wrong with zoomers
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>the most important WoW release maybe ever
>blizzard decides to reuse downscaled retail models mixed in with the same models from 20 years ago in order to do as little work as possible
I have never witnessed a more lazy company in my life.
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>>748278957
PFFFTTTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>748279116
Soul:Soulless
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>>748279240
Ok palasissy, now put on your dress and get back to healing.
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>>748279116
Something just gets worse about these when you give them more polygons and detail. Maybe the "cartoon for metalhead edgelords" artstyle simply has to stay low poly
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>>748279341
That is the case for most things in nuWoW but the horses look fantastic
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Is it worth renewing my subscription for Forever?
I haven't played WoW since the Legion days.
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>>748278949
t. retard
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>>748278920
>>748278572
Ok cool, now what about the gameplay?
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>wowfags clamoring for Classic+ for years
>reason being "we hate all the design decisions and philosophy of the moden WoW dev team."
>their solution is to have the same devs whose ideas they hate remake classic
>they get their wish
>their shocked when those devs have design decisions and a design philosophy they don't like

I am shocked, SHOCKED I SAY!!
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>>748278630
i thought people liked the poorly managed pserver look?
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I really can not wrap my head around why Blizzard absolutely refuses to accept what people like about Classic WoW. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to release 2019 and have been openly vindictive about the original devs. Not comprehending the original art style is baffling since it would be far easier to make flat texture models and painted on armor so they can allocate manpower into other things. Sky elves are the final fuck you. I highly expect Forever will just become retail within a year or two.
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>>748278907
>Already even in vanilla tauren druids were an asspull
I've been saying this since forever but Trolls really should have been the druid race. They fucking turn into animals in every single Troll raid.
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>>748278572
>2026
>people now pretend they like the shitty bear form model
are people so willing to abandon common sense just for the sake of fitting within the narrative they built for themselves?
I'm sure there's good examples to compare and criticize instead of this, why present yourself as a retard? All you're doing is making everyone dismiss you and everyone else that feels the same way
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Since you guys are already in a mood to complain about shit, please spoonfeed me the difference between all these versions.
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>>748278572
Didn't they say they'll have alternate shitty models for everything?
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>>748285092
Blizzard lying isnt anything new.
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>>748278572
>>748278920
>yeah, it's gonna be just like classic but just more content :)
>no, we're not gonna stick to the old art style to keep things consistent :)
jfc, unpaid russians did a better job than this
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>>748284932
nyo
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>>748278572
blizzard trannys just don't get it, do they?
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>>748279116
>low resolution = soul
Oh okay
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>>748279116
Left is peak, right is slop.

>>748279448
Better, but it still has the retail problem of making armor/metal edges to fucking thick.
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>>748286237
It's crazy how some of these stupid fucks are so brainwashed they try to attack turtle when it was the best version of WoW ever created.
Also the narrative being pushed, when retail, classic, and forever are the tranny faggot versions run by nu blizzard soi devs who censor painting, add body type 1/2, and literally features official in-game pride parades.
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>>748284932
One was made by old school RPG nerds that loved metal and were fairly talented, the other is made by people the type of Californians that turned D&D is in to quirk chungus slop it is today, so the storytelling, art direction, tonality and ethos completely clash with each other. This Anon >>748282215 summarized it.
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They really need to fix the sky elf models, the forms look so out of place.
If they're too lazy to really make them fit artistically they should just make is people can disable skyelfs like you can transmog.
make them appear like vanilla high elves but make the skins blue and just make the forms whatever defaults for the faction.
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>>748279341
The old style is stylized but still retains a realistic foundation. It's ultimately a horse depicted in a cartoony way. The new style exaggerates the stylization and pushes the aesthetic closer to toys or miniature figures. It could just as well be a plastic model in a children's toy catalogue
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>>748278638
This. I thought I could handle it but after 2 hours playing on the atrocious retail client with jank "classic" models that don't look right and anti-soul gas, I uninstalled the game got a refund.
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Forever is in a nasty middle ground right now where its far more like classic than the naysayers care to admit, but it has several 'retailbrain' decisions and additions that are made even more jarring by their introduction.

There are several new systems brought in that are pretty cool (Camps and Mage Scrolls), some that could have serious long term consequences (profession overhaul leading to character power creep) and some that just don't really matter despite how often they're discussed (the lighting and water effects).

There are hints of exciting possibility (Mage scrolls leading to the discovery of a spell power BOP 2hander) and then there are...well...the Skiggers.

The Skiggers have the same problem as Forever in general. They ALMOST fit in lorewise. They've got good foundations. Shendralar escapees into the Skywall. Mutated much like how the Dark Irons were by exposure to Fire Elementals. Cults to the mysterious and strange 'Al'akir' of whom they've never seen or met but they know is just lurking out there in the endless skies. But they're just too...clean. Too pixar, like retail. So theres this reflexive hatred of them which is perfectly valid and easily fixable, but they won't. So the skiggers will stick out like a sore thumb.
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>turtle died for this
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>>748278572
will I enjoy this if I've never played wow before?
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>>748288280
no
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What the fuck is even WoW forever? Classic WoW with new graphics?
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>>748288335
And some retail elements
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wow forever making pserver thurd worlders seethe for weeks is so funny
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>>748288280
Yes.
In the end its just classic with some additions that range from pretty good to annoying, but IMO they're not deal breakers. The bones are still there. Its still the same game people have been pining over for 20 odd years. Just with skiggers.
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they should put it on steam desu
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>>748288335
Some new graphics, some ported over retail systems and some new original systems made specifically for Forever.
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>>748288335
Classic WoW without any of the pesky classic WoW elements
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they should add playable feral dragons
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>>748288335
Retail WoW capped at lv60 with a "classic models" toggle that only reverts a handful of models to classic style.
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>>748282215
Yeah it's weird as all hell when normalfags seem to pretend that every original Warcraft dev is still working at Blizzard and is working on current WoW.
Forever was made by the same literal newfags who replaced paintings with women for fruit and added transsexual trees, among other things. The term is "officially-licensed fanfiction".
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You people will never be happy until they release WoW: Untouched. Where it's just vanilla and just vanilla graphics and just vanilla dungeons and vanilla raids and vanilla gear and never expand on any part of it ever, like if that first iteration was somehow perfect and they got it on the first try (it's not, your blinded by nostalgia), and you can create NPC characters that look and play themselves like your old dead friends you used to play this game with. Just stagnant and old and boring and never looking like 2005 ever happened. You want a version of WoW that is just like your mom's basement.
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>>748288916
>you people
>you you you
Get back to whichever gay-ass website you came from, bitch.
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>>748278872

>Im batman
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>>748288950
4chan?
By "you," retard, I mean WoW "fans" who've been playing this game for 20 years. I'm not sorry if you feel called out
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>>748278872
>retards are complaining about rexxar now
the absolute state
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>>748289035
>you you you
>#not sorry
Okay newfag, go back to whichever circlejerk you came from where everybody who disagrees with you is in the same category.
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>>748288359
>>748288449
>>748288470
>>748288660
Okay, so why are people so hyped for that shit then? It's just the same shit as before
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>>748288916
...They did that. In 2019.
Trannies and chinks ruined it with parses and bots.
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>>748288335
Seasonal version of retail
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>>748289342
.....Because its vanilla wow dude. With just enough new additions to intrigue and infuriate, depending on where you land.
People don't call old world of warcraft a drug as a joke. Even after a decade sober I guarantee you a lot of oldfags are going to relapse hard when this releases fully. Just one more fix bro...thats all they need.
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>>748289342
normalfags (baseline at 100 IQ) are built to consume product then get excited for next megacorp-endorsed product
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why the fuck are people glazing it so hard? Ive played wow
>original release
>tbc
>wotlk
>quit during cata release
>relapsed when legion came out and then quit 3 months later

Now I was initially tempted to relapse again but ive worked sales before and the amount of fucking ungenuine praise posts and videos wow has gotten across various media platforms has me feeling like someone is trying to get me to join their MLM scheme.
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>>748278572
>every zone looks like picrel now but with acidic sun shafts on top of that

This is Cata+-
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>indian/europoor hours
>seethe at wow forever start
I am noticing
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>>748289663
Where the fuck do you see people glazing this shit? Even hugboxes like r*ddit shit on it. This is way more “controversial” than SoD which already had split opinions
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>>748289851
>buzzwords
>cant handle constructive criticism

real wow forum hours
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>>748289890
maybe if you could read you would see all the glazing happening
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>>748289916
you call it buzzword because your translation program can't understand it?
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>>748289342
This is blizzard's last hope to revive the franchise so they've been pumping the internet with paid shills. All the influencers are onboard too.
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Druid bear model always looked like shit. If you're nostalgic for that garbage you're just a retard.
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>>748290005
No it’s not, it’s designed to fail, it’s launching with gta6. What actually happens is this is quarter end so they just dump the allocated marketing budget to boost their total sales, with the beta preorders, etc
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>>748289991
>he doesnt know what a buzzword is
lmao
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>>748289851
oh no it's new to 4chan AND defending the AAA franchise lol
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I am sure blizzard is spending trillions paying all those shills and it is not just people enjoying a videogame
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>>748290068
You are the one who doesn't fren
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>>748290086
Homie they are owned by Microsoft
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>>748290048
Tauren bear was dope.
Night elf bear with the ears was dumb
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>>748290086
>spending trillions
Yes your assumption is wrong.
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>>748290086
omg wow forever is so fun please invite me to asmon layer
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>>748290086
>>748290204
WoW addicts do the advertising for free
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>>748278572
Eh its something free for me to check out seeing as i have been subbed to Retail all this time. Should be a fun change of pace for a little bit between patches on retail.
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>>748290267
Exactly. Plus advertisement through bot farms is dirt cheap for M$, already was for ActiBlizz.
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>no bro they are paying shill
>no bro the shill do it for free
>no bro the shills are actually bots
can you at least pick a lane
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>>748290086
I assume anyone who denies shill/bots is themselves a bot. It’s ludicrous to believe this in 2026. You are a youtube channel with 2000 views average and it has bots in the comments
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>>748290371
>everyone is the same person
>there is only one method of advertisement
>no multiple people can ever have similar opinions
Kill yourself, broGPT.
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>>748290276
>paying
>free
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>>748290432
only if you stop being a phonefag tranny
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>>748290475
But Wow is a tranny friendly game just look at the skyelves
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>>748289350
>Trannies and chinks
I was in GRIZZLY on a few private servers, I didn't hear any of those weird nasally tranny voices in their vent (or was it Mumble or TS idr). Those were just run of the mill autists.
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>>748290457
I mean i am always paying for Retail so not having to pay any extra to play forever is cool to me.
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>>748278920
Is cool, but obviously is a retail mount transplanted in classic, that mount has more pixels than the entirely of Naxxramas
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>>748290475
>phones out of nowhere
>tranny
another newfag having a fit, sasuga
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>>748290684
This is what ive always hated about the wow community its always been such a fucking hugbox. You are never allowed to have any criticism over the game
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>>748288916
Modern Blizzard literally ruins everything it touches. The only good parts of WoW were made by people that don't work for the company anymore. I don't want the kinds of games or aesthetics these freaks produce, no
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>>748288335
A new version of Retail
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>>748288416
They really should. It would sit at the top of the charts for a good while, making it even more popular than it already is.
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>>748279341
It’s the oversized edges.
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>>748288146
>ERA
Era is 1.12 trivialized garbage for people who want to parse easy content to pretend they're hardcore and I'm tired of acting like anyone hyping up the 2019 version of classic has any legitimacy whatsoever.
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>>748278572
right literally looks higher effort
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>>748290684
>calling someone chat gpt and telling them kill to kill themselves is fine
>laughing at phonefags and trannies is not
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>>748290086
>passive-aggressive Reddit bitch typing
You're fooling no one
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>>748291224
chatgpt got his feelings hurt lmao
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>>748291321
why are you defending phonefags, how fucking new are you
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>>748291224
>phonefags
was out of nowhere and irrelevant to the reply chain
>trannies
Use big boy words if you don't want to immediately be noticed as a newfag.
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>>748291224
Complaining about phones in 2026 is a newfag larp, it’s like if you complained about “summer” for posting being bad in 2016. The WOAT posters nowadays are unemployed thirdies sitting at their pc
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>>748291396
>zoomie trying to rewrite history
every time
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>>748291396
>larp
You will always be a newfag. Not reading the rest of this faggotry.
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>>748290881
I keep thinking about Overwatch and ended up playing Diablo 4 only because they keep appearing on my steam store.
Guess they don't want to give a cut from subscription to steam and mostly want money from ingrained blizz fan audience vs attracting new one.
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>>748291376
>was out of nowhere and irrelevant to the reply chain
because it was literally a phonefag replying, holy shit how the hell do you niggers operate on this website without knowing some of the most basic things
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>>748291224
millenial unc neet blizzdrone mad that his wow forever sucks
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>>748291515
>phonefag because I said so
lol xD
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Turtle and Sheena lost.
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>>748291593
let me teach you retarded newfags, nobody uppercase the first letter, only phonefags
there
have fun
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oh would you look at that, Horde are the slop cucks of the world of warcraft
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>>748291637
Yep, you exposed yourself as a third world newfag, auto capitalize existed before you were born and before smartphones existed. You have the activate windows watermark still up don’t you?
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>>748291690
Is this Forever? Undead Paladins are going to be insanely overrepresented.
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>>748291637
>jeet poem formatting
Newfaggot
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>>748291637
>tranny tranny I don't understand punctuation
>calls anyone else new
LOL
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>>748291453
See
>>748291396
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>>748291705
>>748291763
>>748291772
NTA, is your life so pathetic you have to come to 4chan to shitpost nonstop?
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>>748291827
NTA, is your life so pathetic you have to come to 4chan to defend Blizzard nonstop?
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>>748291827
Reeks of LLM, it’s just doing random shit now
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>>748291903
Yeah The pajeet is mad
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>>748291940
calling someone pajeet doesn't change the fact you are a retarded phoneposter
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>>748291827
>NTA
pfffft going down the checklist, I see
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>>748286237
The Turtle WoW devs were well paid by Torta
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>>748291979
So you admitted you are a pajeet. Kinda explains the phone envy now
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>>748288146
Don't care, still playing. Only M+ could ruin it for me and I don't think they're going down that route.
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>>748291690
I'm kind of glad that ret still looks like a meme though. Hopefully they'll all put on the fucking dress, then we'll know for sure this is classic+ and not retail-.
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no shit it's retail minus, if you want to play vanilla just install the normal classic client
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>>748290086
Bruh, you are fucking cheap, lmao, what trillions? Blizzard employees who work with community can only afford living in a car at beat.
But most likely Blizzard just outsource shilling to jeets for 1 rupee per hour and extensively use AI bots.
Now it's easier and cheaper than ever.
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>Undead paladin
Just need private servers again. Blizz could never be trusted
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>>748292040
>>748291690
And not a single one of them will play Prot. Being a Plate wearer is a humiliation ritual. Much better to play druid and have a easier time keeping up with tank / healing gearing.
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>>748292130
because undead priest make sense
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>>748288223
>turtle got an offline repack with bots that you can play for the rest of time now thanks to this
cool
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Sheena/Torta flew too close to the sun and deserved to get burned.
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>>748291979
See
>>748291396
This shit doesn’t work in 2026.
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>>748292130
>before forever we had one undead who could channel holy energy
>it hurt him to do so
>now in wow forever any undead can be paladins and the holy energy doesnt hurt them because I said so ok
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>>748291629
>>748292197
It's "Shenna".
>>748292216
>newfag revisionism
LOL
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>>748292261
So now you’re just screeching caste stuck on loop like a kitboga video where even though you got exposed 5 minutes in you stick around getting baited for 30 minutes until kitboga hangs up

This is 2026, rankesh
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>>748291979
I would take a million phoneposters over a single jeet and their filthy curry scented existence.
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>>748292341
>reddit spacing on top
jesus christ my dude
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>>748292140
>Being a Plate wearer is a humiliation ritual
Given the way I'm used to rets behaving in retail, it's very fucking deserved.
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>>748292572

Horrendous newfag larp, doesn’t even know what reddit spacing is

This post is reddit spaced, figure out the difference
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>>748292154
>thing doesn't make sense
>instead of fixing it just add more stuff that doesnt make sense
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>>748292643
so where was your complaint about undead priests in 2004? oh right, you weren't even born yet
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>>748286507
you didnt explain it at all, all you did was complain about the people working on it and not what was actually done for Forever
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>>748292154
Undead priest exist for gameplay reasons. Paladin isn't needed for gameplay reasons.
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>>748292691
>nobody complained about the lore of vanilla wow
lol
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>>748292830
tell me the gameplay reasons undead priest need to exist but paladin doesn't
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I'll this talk about undead priests, but why can Tauren druids use moon magic?
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>>748292981
There are already undead priests but they're shadow priests. It becomes tedious and unideal gameplay-wise if undead can become priests but they're locked to only shadow spells. That's the fucking reason for undead being able to use healing spells in wow. But to claim undead paladins is totally lore breaking retardation
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>>748293146
They should have just given troll/undead horde/shadow flavoured holy spells back in the day.
They could have even done it for Tauren by making their holy spells more tribal.
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>>748292981
>tell me the gameplay reasons undead priest need to exist
so that horde have 2 races that can be priest
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>>748278572
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>>748293262
or just don't make healing spells holy
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>>748293064
>why can Tauren druids use moon magic
You can't milk those, and it's made of cheese
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>>748293313
so undead paladin existing for gameplay reason is not valid?
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>>748293262
It's a game balance choice and you gotta make some sacrifices somewhere. For example undead should be immune to fear but they made that balance choice of not making them.
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>>748293408
no because they're flavour classes that make the horde and alliance feel unique. Are you dumb?
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>>748293464
I don't see people having problems with shaman dwarfs
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>>748293373
You could keep them as holy damage, and just give them shadow effects for trolls and undead then write in a bit of lore about controlling holy powers through shadow magic or something. Give the spells a rename where needed. But we know the stupidest subscriber needs to be catered to and it would hort their bwain
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>>748278572
I will try it if it's f2p
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>>748287378
Anon, those are just blue night elves which themselves are blue. It's not any better than recoloring Blood Elves. Using the BE's classic appearance from TBC should be easy though.
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>>748293573
because wildhammer clan exists
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>>748289780
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>>748282215
All wow players are addicts and addicts are beyond hope and reason.

They will literally chase the high of playing wow for the first time for the rest of their lives, but will never accept that it will never be the same because I blizzard can't sell them back their childhood happiness.
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>>748291690
Jesus fuck ya I'm going ally. UD pally the new human retardin.
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They need to add Worgen and finally fix the error of retail not giving them tails.
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>>748293925
you joining to asmon layer?
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>>748278572
I'm glad people are being vocal about this crazy idea of shoving high poly models into classic. These modern midels stick out like a sore thumb into the game.
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>>748278572
We're so fucking back!
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>>748293820
yeah and?
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>>748293064
Mu'sha is Elune.
It's the classic case of two different races worshipping the same deity but calling it a different name.

Instead of keeping it ambiguous and up to interpretation, Blizzard just went all in with Elune because of their elf boner.
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>>748293820
>>748293573
Still doesn't make sense. Dwarves in alliance are ironforge dwarves they're not shamans. It's another asspull.
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> people complaining about shaman dwarves
> people complaining about paladin forsaken
> not a single word about priest gnomes
How the hell does a gnome priest work? As far as I know there is literally 0 lore to support this.
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real question is why didn't they add a new class to prop up the wind elfs
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>>748291690
horde is always full of metafags
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>>748294147
The Shamans you meet in Forever are Wildhammers, at least the NPCs are. Its never said what clan your character is from, he could be from any depending on what you choose.
One starts a questline to go into the new dungeon chasing after Dark Irons.
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>>748294260
The Windbenders
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>>748288335
Since you only got answers from faggots let me tell you whats new.
>fog, shadows and lighting
>most areas that didnt make sense on the old map that players didnt had access to are now fully modeled quest zones and new items
>new dungeons
>slightly reworked some talents
>some quality of life stuff like more flight paths and boat routes, new zones for level ranges to make questing more smooth, each city has its own auctionhouse and guild bank
>just one server for pvp, pve, rp and hardcore, with sharding
>undead paladin
>dwarf shaman
>blue blood elves for both factions (the most retarded thing in forever really)
>set up campfires to sit aroud that gives buffs
>more (retail) UI options
>TOGGLEABLE new/old characters models as well as transmog (most niggers dont understand this)
Not sure if i forgot something, but judging from what have seen from people who paypigged the beta, it still feels like classic, difficulty and all, people who say it feels retail have braindamage.
Now lets just wait and see how blizzard will fuck it up with wowtoken and cashshop items.
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>>748294260
They need to condition you to imbalanced classes and overt class favoritism before they introduce a new unbalanced class with overt favoritism.

Trust the process.
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>>748294260
honestly, people were much less mad at the pandas having brewmaster added with them
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>>748294147
>>748294331
From a classic point of view it makes no sense for the Alliance to have Shaman Dwarves because the Wildhammer at that point in time were independent. They only officially joined the Alliance during Cataclysm.
Forever is shaping story differently. Maybe the Wildhammer clan are already part of the Alliance in this new lore, in which case being able to create a Dwarf Shaman makes total sense.
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>>748288335
Bunch of stuff they stole from private servers before DMCA them.
And a new cash shop. Just for the cattle.
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>>748290086
>/v/
>enjoying video games
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>>748294374
>classic, difficulty and all
You mean being piss easy?
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>>748294260
>New class.
>Have to balance and bugproof everything for classic autists.
Nah, get a color swap palette for 30 bucks.
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>>748294470
What are you talking about? The Wildhammers have been part of the Alliance for ages. They were part of the Sons of Lothar. Gryphon Riders in WC3 ARE Wildhammers.
Cata is when the Wildhammers, Dark Irons and Bronzebeards reunified under Dagran II, Moira and Dagran I's infant and the War of Three Hammers ends.
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>>748294520
If all you care are raids, yes. The leveling is inifintely harder in vanilla than it is in retail.
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>>748294374
You forgot new dungeons
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>>748278572
>the retranny devs have taken over forever
Alright, it's over, pack it up, back to bitching about how WoW is dead for another decade.
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>>748294520
It's more consistent throughout the entire Game. Retail is piss easy levelling, dungeons, LFR, then skyrockets when you get in the world of Mythic Raiding or Arena PvP.
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>>748294331
When you make a level 1 character you're right next to ironforge not in hinterlands among dwarf elemetalists. Your retarded logic doesn't make sense. It is by default the dwarves in wow are ironforge dwarves. But since they're bending the lore backwards, might as well just add all the shit and make excuses later.
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>>748294598
Nope its all piss easy
If it was actually hard classic players wouldnt be so bad at the game
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>>748294374
>sincew no one shilled this to you on behalf of Blizzard, please allow me
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>>748294572
At the very least the Wildhammer at Aerie Peak are not part of the Alliance during vanilla. I'm sure of this.
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>>748294260
effort? originality?
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>>748294374
>>fog, shadows and lighting
All look like shit and don't fit the art style like the Turtle WoW unreal 5 port
>>most areas that didnt make sense on the old map that players didnt had access to are now fully modeled quest zones and new items
Will be copypasted from Cataclysm
>>new dungeons
Low effort shit
>>slightly reworked some talents
Copy pasted wotlk abilities or talents
>>some quality of life stuff like more flight paths and boat routes
Just makes the world feel smaller
>>just one server for pvp, pve, rp and hardcore, with sharding
Sharding is the worst thing that they did with classic
>>undead paladin
retarded lore breaking and ruins the unique feeling of each faction
>>dwarf shaman
ruins the unique feeling of each faction
>>TOGGLEABLE new/old characters models as well as transmog (most niggers dont understand this)
the classic toggle is just classic textures copy pasted on retail models with the godawful animations, it looks bizarre and uncanny as fuck, not to mention it's extremely lazy
>it still feels like classic, difficulty and all, people who say it feels retail have braindamage.
All you have to do is look at OP to see that it is in fact RETAIL
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>wildhammer dwarves come to ironforge glaciers to train warrior/paladin/priest/rogues in elemental shamanism
It sounds fucking retarded beyond any reason
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>>748294609
anon...your glasses
>>748294697
point to me the words where i shilled anything, esl kun
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TORtanic did irreparable damage to this board and its fallout still lingers
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>>748294880
most of your points are just you shitposting you dumb retard, but blizzard isnt paying me to correct you so just believe in whatever you want, no one is stopping you from being an idiot
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>>748294249
Troll priests never made sense either, what lore supports trolls following the light before WoW?
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>>748295045
>most of your points are just you shitposting
wow good one dork, you having a blast or what?
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>>748295096
none, but there were shadow priests
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>>748294880
>retarded lore breaking and ruins the unique feeling of each faction
How does it break the lore when some forsaken were paladins in the past and they can all be priests to begin with?
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>>748294628
Its a fucking RPG you retard. Your character has no backstory beyond 'The Dwarf lands are under threat while the armies are away. Go out there and fix some shit'. You know what those first letters stand for? Role playing.
There was never anything stopping a Dwarf from becoming a shaman except for gameplay limitations because Wildhammers have
a) always had shamanistic practices
b) always been allied with the Bronzebeards
Which means that
c) A Wildhammer could come to Dun Morogh to teach young Bronzebeards about the elements very fucking easily

Dwarf Shamans are frankly one of the least lore breaking things they could add and you pedantic cunts bitching about are retarded.

>>748294769
Naah mate. Wildhammers are friendly to Alliance players because they are a part of the Alliance. Their leader has a statue in SW because he was part of the Sons of Lothar who marched into Outland to stop Ner'zhul.



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