UHHHH sonybros??
>>748297167um, we're sisters
>>748297167And they also beat the previous generation's retail price by about 300%.
>>748297167These console specs are are always a complete meme. Consoles somehow STILL can't run many games at a stable 60 fps in the year of our lord 2026.High specs is just more leeway for developers to get lazy.
>>748297167Why the fuck do consoles have to use some scrimblo-ass term to describe the power of their hardware when we have standardized terminology to convey this information?
Well Microsoft release the weaker and powerful console at the beginning of the generation, sony release the pro version mid lifecycle to make user double dip
the only time i ever even hear the term "teraflop" is right before the new console geni still dont know what it fucking means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games
>>748297587Where's the Xbox X/S list?
>>748297419their audiences are the willingly tech illiterate and children
>>748297359Nah, they just always have shit cpus. The ps5 gpu is more than fine
>>748297419What is difficult to comprehend about seeing how fast a computer can divide a number by another number which results in a number that has to be represented by floating point and repeating the process trillions of times?
series x has more tflops than ps5 and still got mogged
>>748297167woow one 1K+ no games box will have a few more bingyFLOPS than the other 1K+ no games box. Who gives a shit, nigger? No one's buying either of these glorified door stoppers.
>>748297167I love watching the raped argue over who is the most raped.
>>748297419tflops is standard number crunching metric in computing. what the hell is your "standardized terminology"? 3d mark scores lol?
>>748298275Exclusives are dead. Consoles are just budget pcs at this point and the ps6 should offer good price/performance
>>748297167>ps1: looked gay>ps2: looked cool>ps3: looked gay>ps4: looked cool>ps5: looked super gay>ps6: will look super cool?
>>748297167I still don’t understand what the fuck a flop is, it sounds like a totally made up metric
>>748298334Yes I do in fact mean shit that actually means anything to normal people and not the 1% huffing electrical exhaust for a living.
>>748298340if GTAVI drops to pc then consoles will literally have n o t h i n g
>>748298415Again, most people use consoles just to play multiplats because they‘re a cheap entry point. Exclusives are just a bonus
>>748298374Its modern games lmao
>>748297167It would be funny if that were the real logo for the PS6.
>>748298415>if GTAVI drops to pc>ifyou retarded bro?
>>748298340Budget PCs that are fucking walled gardens with none of the real benefits of having a PC.
>>748297167Lots of flopping incoming. I believe they should measure new console power by "Concordianflops".
>>748298334/v/tards actually think they are tech literate cos they put together pre assembled parts into pcie slots.
>>748297167>It has 100 iottabytes of power and can produce 12k**** graphix.I don't give a shit, where is the games?
>>748298360>PS1: looked gay>PS2: looked cool>PS3 Phat: looked sexy>PS3 Slim: looked gay>PS3 Superslim: looked sexy>PS4: looked sexy>PS4 slim: looked gay>PS4 pro: looked gay>PS5: full tranny>PS6: more tranny?
>>748298415Rockstar recently had to bitch and moan about modding GTA6, it's not an if.
>>748297327Don't forget both will have no games and be phased out once they both get 1 game in 7 years.
>>748297167Translation:Anonymous leaker claims that specs of a thing that he doesn't know beats the specs of another thing that some other anonymous leaker doesn't know.
>>748297167no one's gonna buy $1000 consoles
>>748298340next gen is going to cost like 2000 at minimum. considering a ps4 level pc can still run ball and gun slop i cant imagine why anyone would be buying a next gen console
>>748298714>anonymous leaker>kepler
I don't care how many spec metrics something beats another console with, make fucking GAMES! Neither of these shitboxes will have any games just like the their last consoles, so why would I care to buy either one. Make exclusives that make me want to buy your shitty console, not some subscription shit that can play Unreal Engine shit at 30fps while downscaling the resolution and using AI frames to make it not look like complete shit.
>>748298728People said this about 600 dollar consoles too
Considering it costs a million dollars to build a PC these days I am considering Helix. Make it under $1200 and offer a disc drive and I'm in.Sony only makes woke games and astrobot so I'm out there.
>>748298748Sorry, let me fix the translation for you.Retarded faggot claims that specs of a thing that he doesn't know beats the specs of another thing that some other retarded faggot doesn't know.Wait, we have some breaking news. No one gives a fuck anyways.
>>748298859dudetheres overwhelming amount of games that you cant ever play
>>748297167i am so happy that the age of cheap marketing is finally over. nobody cares about their made up stats, even /v/ stopped arguing
>>748297167Leaker claims my dick is in OP's ass.
>>748298905>theres overwhelming amount of games that you cant ever playAre any of them good?
>>748298904no he definitely knows>nobody gives a fuckyeah thats probably true, nobody will be buying these
>>748298896PS5 Pro's sales are really low
>>748298530Most people don‘t give a shit about the real benefits and just wanna play games
>>748298957check out witcher 3
>>748298728>no one's gonna buy $1000 consoles
>>748297167How is this any different from the PS4 and Xbox or Series X and PS5??? The last 2 generations the Xbox has been the more powerful console and it has made 0 fucking difference.
>>748298728Anon people are buying $2000 flippy iphones.
>>748297167>on paperlol
>>748299017Because it's an upgrade where only the most autistic can tell the difference. There is no reason for a normie to buy one. When GTA6 - PS6 edition releases they're going to buy that $999 PS6 - Entry edition.
>>748298340>Consoles are just budget pcs at this pointYou could dig a barely functioning laptop out of the garbage, fix it up a bit, and have more access to actually good games than any modern console that needs to settle for "being a budget PC". Gonna have to do better than that if it's gonna be worth a damn.
>>748297167That's probably a good thing because it will make the PS6 cheaper and people will buy because of that. It's not like the XSX being stronger than the base PS5 mattered.>>748299112The base PS4 was stronger than the base Xbox One.
>>748298896Had to come down in price before people started giving a shit, despite free online
>still at least an entire year before new consoles come outDon't worry, there's enough time for the world to get worse.
>>748297167I don't believe this for a second. Not because I don't like Xbox (I have an S and an X), just that I don't think there's going to be a next gen at all. If there is, the compute will be done through the cloud.Even if they're planning it, they'll probably be cancelled because no one is spending $2k on a console to play 4 games over the course of 6 years.
I'm keeping switch 2 and getting nextbox next-gen. Sony fucking sucks these days and PCs are out of my price range and my 3070 isn't going to cut it soon.
>>748299169No, it was stronger than the discount bullshit version One S. It wasn't stronger than the One X. Just like the PS5 is stronger the shitty poorfag Series S but it isn't stronger than the Series X. Way to miss my point entirely though faggot, last 2 generations Xbox has had the stronger console and it made 0 difference and they still don't sell and finish dead fucking last. This means literally nothing when they've had the strongest console the last 2 generations and still get raped by Sony and Nintendo anyway.
>>748299121ps5 pro costs 899, zero chance the ps6 will be any close to 999 unless they literally take the ps5 pro hardware and call it ps6
>>748299258The chips are already taped out, these things are releasing holiday 2027. They cant afford to delay the release because memory prices will get worse.
I honestly haven't seen an xbox console in stores for a while now, are they even in production?
>>748299296I said base for a reason, the PS5 Pro is stronger than the XSX if you want to count revisions.
>>748297167>ProjectSo it's already dead?
>>748297167Any games?
>>748299297You owe me a shoeshine once it ends up being exactly 999.
>>748299273You know steam won‘t be on xbox? Why invest in a dying ecosystem
>>748297771>he doesn't realise where he is
>>748299446Well the current consoles have thousands of games, so I'd say probably
>>748297359>Consoles somehow STILL can't run many games at a stable 60 fps in the year of our lord 2026.When will this meme die? The snes ran games at 60fps.The PS5 is more than capable of outputting games at 120 if the developers decide to spec them to run at 120fps.This has been true for every single generation of consoles, but developers favor graphics over fps every single time for obvious wow factor reasons, since most people don't care about high fps but do care about graphics.
>>748297167>kneel before your mommy
>>748298334In terms of what matters? Yes. How fast the CPU can do math is irrelevant to how good my tiddie JRPGs look and play. Only about 10% of games will even need a strong CPU. And those types of games (simulators, mostly) are not big sellers on consoles.
>>748299297Ps5 pro isn‘t subsidized
>>748299446Maybe in 2032.
>>748298728Anon, it's only speculated at $1,000 by today's prices. By the time this shit comes out, they'll be like $3,000. Prices are not coming down. Every component in that box is consistently rising in price.
>>748299536Open world games make up way more than 10% and they‘re often cpu limited
>>748299494>xbox>dyingthey will always have pc to fall back on since they own windows, even if the console dies they will not get rid of xbox store on pc
>>748297167g-gulp,,, i didnt realize you were so much bigger, xbox,,,
>>748299121Then cockstar announces GTA6 switch 2 edition.Normalfags are dumb but even they have limits.
>>748299615RAM prices are expected to start going down by late next year as production increases to meet demand
>>748297167You think this is free? It will be $1500-2000.I haven't owned a console since 2009 btw.
40 tera flops? Heh, sony produces more flops in a single year than that.
>>748297167>sony has more flopsWE WON FLOPS CLAIM ALL>xbox has more flopsuhhhhh who cares? Don't you have hobbies?
>>748299624Inshallah Steam will release a proper Steam OS already so people who are on the fence about Linux can flock over there en masse.
I'm gonna FLOP my dick around
>>748297251>>748297167you are niggers, gay niggers
>>748299624Can you download games you bought on xbox on pc? I don‘t think so
>>748297167Physint will look absolutely insane
>>748298519gta hasn't ever released on pc before consoles, even 3 took six months
>>748299668All of the output from new fabs is already paid for in advance by people building datacenters.
>>748297586Tera is a shit ton, flop are the games
>>748297167Oh PS6 will have flops all right heh
>>748299758they are working on something that lets you do just this
>>748297167>40% more expensive
>>748299668>ram prices are expected to go downsource? lmao memory is completely sold out till 2030 and the new fabs micron/sk hynix/samsung are building wont be ready for at least 2-3 years
>>748299807You‘re probably mistaking that with the disc to digital thing they‘re working on
>>748299024And so they shall continue to pay around the same price for an objectively inferior product. I'm not condemning them for this, I just think it's funny that there is less and less reason to buy playstations and xboxes over the years yet people's brand loyalty carries them along. Though I have no clue how Sony or Microsoft plan to sell their next gen of consoles. There isn't even an expectation of GTA anymore.
>>748299668lol, lmao even
>>748299780Yes so its a question of "when" not "if".
>>748299615THREE THOUSAND???
>>748299916nigga pc hardware is in a worse state
>>748299668Gobernmint gave Altman and his goons infinite money, shit not going happen any soon if even happens.Same for GPU prices.
>beats it on paper Yeah so does Xbox Series X yet the games don't look any better
>>748299504Name 10
>>748300212>no mention of the graphics settings being used on each screenshothuh. weird. donchathink?
>>748300295blood of dawnwalkerhalo campaign evolvedassassins creed black flag resyncedlego batman legacy of the dark knightpragmataarc raidersms flight simulatorbattlefield 6nba 2k27onimusha way of the sword
>>748300364>>748300212>"we've decided that Gran Turismo 7 gets the nod as the more visually striking game of the two. This isn't even about hardware performance - GT7 could run on Series X hardware just as Forza could run on a PS5."https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2023-gran-turismo-7-vs-forza-motorsportIt has *nothing* to do with the console, you dumbfuck. It's just different games.
>>748300482And is there a reason I should need an Xbox to play these?
>>748299296Original xbone was wildly underpowered compared to PS4, big part of the reason they fumbled that generation. OneX was a good console but barely had time to breathe before series X launched, and honestly, S is probably why this generation was so underwhelming as a whole because everything has to be gimped to run on it
>>748300671No there's no reason you need too play games at all
>>748300671you can play them wherever you want nigga
>>748300843Yea this generation would be so much better if all the ue5 slop had its settings turned up a notch. Who the fuck cares?
>>748299494>You know steam won‘t be on xboxIt will
>>748300861>no reason you need to play games at allWith the way the industry is going, that's not a bad mindset.>>748300891What does this even mean? Yes, I can play my games whenever I want.
>>748301091Do explain how xbox makes money when they sell the console at a loss and everybody buys games on steam (which they get no cut from)
>>748297167The Series X is stronger than the PS5 too. Still got stomped into oblivion. Console gamers don't care about specs.
>>748301120>What does this even mean? Yes, I can play my games whenever I want.im answering your question, you dont need an xbox to play these games you can play them on multiple platforms
>>748297167Series X was 25% stronger on paper yet the PS5 ran games better on average and many Xbox ports had unique bugs. Next Xbox will cost more, won't have exclusive.
Does it even matter cause games are made for system parity these days?
>>748297167
>>748301268Honestly, fair. Just that I feel like the idea of a console kinda loses it's purpose at that point. I guess the winner will just be the one that is cheaper, since they all have the same games and do the same thing.
>>748301174I spent this whole generation looking for a reason to buy an Xbox, and I just didn't have much. They need great games that you can't get on PlayStation. I think there is potential.
>>748300638Then why can't they have similar models especially since they are using the same car
>>748297167>5 billion transistors! all over againMeaningless numbers
Xbox is a dead brand, GTA6 is coming out on Xbox too yet it feels like a PS5 exclusive, who is even going to be playing it on that platform?
>>748299773Just realized I will need to buy an xbox for this FUCK I HATE EXCLUSIVES
>>748302025>That'll be $1,000 + $90 (new triple-A price) + tip
>>748302025It‘s gonna be on pc and ps5 probably too. By the time it‘ll release xbox will have abandonded the console exclusivity gimmick
Who the fuck will give a shit about either of these consoles when they will be priced around 1500 bucks each or possibly more? Video games are meant to be a mass market product. Like you can't make your money back on some 300 million game when the only people who have your console are a small subset of gamers who are willing to spend that much on a console.
>>748302201I don't have a PC I game on Sony and Asha is now keeping exclusives on PC and xbox.
>>748302201They're literally returning to console exclusivity. Or at least non-PlayStation exclusivity.
>>748302201>Physint on PS5Never EVER
>>748302273Yea and the game will be out in 4 years at the earliest. By then they‘ll have abandoned console exclusivity (not that this is guaranteed to be console exclusive anyway)
>>748302243I think Kojima wanted the game to be multiplat and that was part of the tension with PlayStation. Doesn't mean we know for sure it'll come to PlayStation, might just be Xbox and PC, but it's possible. I'm like you, I play all my games on PlayStation. I've accepted that I have a reason to buy an Xbox now because there's a lot of games in their history that I've never played. I wouldn't mind a reason to play Halo, Fable, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break. And GamePass looks like good value too.
>>748302243Console exclusives are on a game by game basis and i think this is the kind of game they need to sell as many copies of as possible
>>748302394This is copy. MS lets plans run for like 10 years. If you have a PC or XBOX you can play it but unless Microsoft goes out of business it will never be on PlayStation.
>>748298530welcome to the late 2000s and smart phones argument, the normie craves the walled garden
>>748302443Kojima is a retard who wants hundreds of millions in funding just to give them 1 year of timed exclusivity. Why sony ever entertained that nonsense i‘ll never understand
>>748302443Kojima literally said last week it's up to MS if it comes to other platforms.
>muh TFLOPSwhere is the games
Expensive as fuck with no games.This is why the Helix will fail.
reminder
>>748297167>16point difference>16 is 29% of 56 (tmax)>Helix beats PS6 by being 30% more powerful >Alternatively, PS6 is 30% less powerful than HelixAm I bad at math? Where the fuck did 40% come from? Am I bad at math?
>>748302465>MS lets plans run for like 10 yearsNo, the opposite actually. They had the ps5 version of gears of war done and pulled it last minute. They don‘t know what they‘ll be doing tomorrow let alone in 10 years. This is the same company that announced a game and shut the studio that’s making it down a week later>unless Microsoft goes out of business it will never be on PlayStationKojima wasn‘t willing to budge on physint only having timed exclusivity on playstation. I have no reason to believe that changed with xbox
>>748302639It had no exclusives for like a year plus and when they came out they were shit.Just make the next Elder Scrolls exclusive and be done with it.
>>748302687>No, the opposite actually. They had the ps5 version of gears of war done and pulled it last minute.Yes because they got new leadership but they took a decade to fire Phil and they didnt change his awful plan as it was going on.
>>748297167That doesn't translate to much in practice. The most significant improvements in gaming going forward will come from CPU and Ray Tracing cores.Apart from raw hardware, we have to also remember that 3rd party developers start with the weakest platform and work outwards.
>>748302564We'll see. Like I said, if I have to buy an Xbox I will, and there's enough stuff on there I've never played that I think it will be worth it.
>>748302618It will have Steam
>>748298340>the ps6 should offer good price/performance
>>748302775Phil had a long term vision, as stupid as it was, while sharma doesn‘t. She won‘t get 10 years to right the ship. They already shut down half of their studios and the other ones are 1 flop away from the same
>>748302891>Phil had a long term vision, as stupid as it was, while sharma doesn‘t.She literally does it's focusing on AAA guaranteed wins like Elder Scrolls and bring back exclusives. Like have you read a single article from the past 6 months?
>>748302881Adress this >>748301171
>>748302803This. Graphical fidelity is already at the point where most games look great. Lighting and NPC AI is the only reasonable upgrade to be made.
>>748297587>Neptunia ReVerse >A remake of a remake Cool dude
>>748302803It'll mean 4K vs 1440P but at the end of the day can anyone REALLY tell the difference between the two?
>>748302945>She literally does it's focusing on AAA guaranteed wins like Elder Scrolls and bring back exclusivesThis doesn‘t mean that those games will be the ones that are exclusive. As far as i‘m aware the announced console exclusives are gears of war and clockwork revolution, both of which are shovelware
I think Microsoft is pivoting to "we never actually lost any console generation because PCs are also our domain." Fine by me, but that does beg the question, if PC gets all of the exclusives Xbox gets, and the next Xbox costs as much as a PC, why not just get a PC?
>>748303107Helix is a cheaper PC
>>748303107normalfags love their shitbox on the living room. thats literally all that consoles are nowadays. literally who the fuck bought a ps5 to play exclusives?
>>748303085Gears beta was great and certainly not shovelware. Clockwork is def gonna be trash but dont besmirch gears.
>>748303072Won't even be noticeable because of PSSR3. Consoles are basically PCs now and DLSS can make sub HD gameplay look almost 4K.
>>748303107Price and performance.
>>748303187Point being that those are small franchises that wouldn‘t have sold much on ps5 anyway. I‘ll take notice when diablo 5 or elder scrolls 6 skips playstation
>>748303107>why not just get a PC
>>748297167The super hiper mega fast SSD from PS6 will level the things.
>>748303341Kinda comparing apples to oranges, no?
>>748303182Yeah, but evidently that market is shrinking, so something has to change.
>>748299792>>748299805Sometimes this board is alright.
>>748303250Are you sure about that? I remember when everyone was saying the PS5 was cheaper than a PC for what it gave you, and then most of the games on there (which were on PC too) were locked to 60FPS anyway, or had aweful video settings you couldn't turn off that made the graphical fidelity irrelevant.
>>748303107The simple answer is that games designed for a specific hardware configuration should be less buggy and more optimized.
>>748299773Mc looks cool but like who cares man
>>748303107an equivalent PC will cost twice as much
>>748297419>the ps5 is 4090 in powerthats why its jensen with the 5000 series all over again
>>748302891the plan turned out to be shit. XBOX was way too nice, they thought people will buy through goodwill into their products, but forget that being part of MS makes it difficult to build upon trust.No aggressive price competition, treating pc like a shared platform, no exclusive despite buying up studio after studio, lacking QA while having overblown management and thinking diversity helps you in the vein of globohomo.What is your audience?You can't win over the PC crowd, because anyone with a good pc gains nothing from getting a xbox s/x.You can't win over the Tendies because no Tendo gamesYou struggle to win over Snoys because its almost the same product +- a few games, if anything they are more likely to get a PCMaybe you try to win over some 3rd worlders in a century long plan to bind them to your eco system, but the younger generation rather plays cheap phone games.Investing into the future is ironically an investment into decline, because the worlds birthrate quotient is negative.
>>748297167And it still won't have any games to play even if it was true.Not like it stopped people from buying a PS5 but alright.
>>748304017Wdym who cares?
>>748297167And somehow ps6 is going to sell 400% more than xbox helix, no one gives a fuck about xbox you could make it so it sucks your dick while you play your vidya and i'd still buy sony+nintendo
>>748297167Isn't Helix a PC? Of course it will be stronger.
>>748305745Retard
>>748297167Get ready for 1500US$+ base consoles.
>>748305825I wonder who the first brave publisher will be to make a next gen exclusive game
