Personally doesn't just look interesting to me, and I'm tired of watching hours long cutscenes instead of playing a game.

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Sega can barely sell the game even with a deep sale.

>>748355591
Cardboard cutouts for characters
Childish story about multiculturalism working
Repetitive gameplay

>>748355591
No romance.

Compare with Clair Obscur and it's clear that it's literally just anime style being too niche. The genre is well loved, but some people are just filtered by the anime shit.

>>748355709
but persona 5 and FF series are the most popular jrpgs before E33 is a thing. They all have anime art style. Maybe this game is just not that good

>>748355653
That second point really did it in. I was playing the demo and I swear that fairy was straight out of a synagogue.

>oy vey, all of the different races of people here work so well together and inflation is a good thing for the poor. Oy, don't that touch light (after beating the first boss)! Have you considered if another more underprivileged party member needs to be uplifted first instead?

>>748355591
Wouldn’t say that it “failed” per se. It’s a completely new ip that doesn’t have romance aspects, which seems to be the primary things atlus fans care about nowadays. I’m not sure how many units you were expecting it to move but 2.46m for a new ip is pretty good

It launched against Expedition 33 which had more western journoshills shilling it, and without the signature mechanics like Social Link and dating mechanics it wasn't really too hot amongst Atlus fans.

>>748355591
didn't let me fuck the fairy

WOKE TRASH

>>748356057
So little porn of her. What is wrong with these homos?

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>>748355631
It is honestly crazy how bad the Atlus formula sells if it doesn't include teeny romance.

>>748355992
but it had handshakes!

>>748355591
JRPGs are lame and gay this game was no different.

>>748355591
no romance

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>>748355591
The reason is simple, even if a certain crowd refuses to admit it.

No fanservice no buy

>>748355591
no fairy sex
no buy
simple as

>>748355591
they based the story and setting around the most boring and westoid kind of politics

>>748356170
you're forgetting the Q-tip scene

>>748355591
>generic weeb game
its like pissing in the ocean
90% of modern weebs are sucked into shit gacha gambling nonsense. so that eats up most of their gayming time

i think most normalfags are starting to think anime is cringe and gay again because of all the trannies and fags that have made it their personality

>>748356193
I think this is very true. I had to stop going to anime conventions because of that.

>>748355591
>absolutely retarded name for a game
>ps2 level graphics
>weird MC design
>whole story is one giant sidequest until the final 10 hours
>proc gen tier dungeons
>phoned in music outside the battle themes
>can't fuck the fairy
>same formulaic calendar rota and "unlock your archetype" shit since P3

>>748356247
>describing 6th gen ludo
yea love this game

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>>748355631
>>748355591
The only thing Persona fans care about is porking the 40 y/o teacher.

>>748355591
early on they found out the translation was bad

>>748355709
>he doesn't know
nobody tell him who makes the worldwide smash hit series Persona

>>748356193
Did they ever think otherwise?

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You call this a UI?

>>748356193
>trannies and fags do a better job gatekeeping then us
grim

>>748356143
combat was trash compared to Persona. it just wasn't a fun game, even if you look past the terrible writing. at least characters used to be likable when they spouted their light novels worth of dialogue over the course of 40 hours.

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>>748356434
Much better than trash like this.

>>748355709
Its not the art style. Its the anime weeb cringe voice acting and dialogue that is off putting to me.

>>748356456
destroying something and making it something completely embarrassing to consume is a good gatekeeping tactic i agree

Should've kept it as ReFantasy and sold ten copies like intended instead of turning it into (not)Persona5

>>748356471
>trash combat A is better than trash combat B

Woke shit, I ain't touching a game with tolerance stat

We had this thrwad yeaterday and the day before. Why do autistic "people" do this?

>>748355591
Persona devs' attempt at "high fantasy" ended up being "generic fantasy".

>>748356434
Yeah. Persona 5's UI was so popular that it had a bunch of copycats ripping it off for awhile. That fad was as bad as the shitty template flat UI that *every* western game uses, because those devs didn't realize they could just make cool UIs that thematically fit with their games...it was just 'rip off the persona UI!'

>>748355591
When the game released it sold well. Of course sales will drop off, the people that would buy it have bought it. It's a single player story game so once it's beat that's it move on to the next game. It didn't fail shit just greedy people up top wanting more money.

>>748355591
No romance. That's it.

>>748355591
No romance and the story is boring

Anime is cringe.

>>748355591
For me it was the style of it
It's "overstyled" if that makes sense, like it's trying too hard to be different but it really isn't
I can stomach P5 but not this.

>>748355591
The setting is just retarded. I saw the screenshots and was completely disinterested. I also don't enjoy turn-based combat enough to give Atlus the benefit of the doubt.

>>748355591
This article is from 2025

>no waifus
why bother?

>>748355591
no romance, its really that shrimple. also, asses too flat. i'm looking at you hulkenberg

>>748355992
Is this a bot? The games came out in different years separated by like 6 months

>>748355591
>multiculturalism is good!
Dropped.

imagine posting about a game you hate for hours every single day
imagine posting about a game you hate for hours every single day and almost being 50 years old

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>>748355631
Atlus has an extremely dedicated fan base, but sales are very frontloaded. Their games just start collecting dust on the shelf after a month or two. The only exception being Persona 5: Teacher Sex Simulator. We will see if Persona 6 can break this trend.

>>748355591
Everybody is waiting for the Royal edition.
Fuck over customers too many times and we'll learn.

>>748355591
this shit was astroturfed so hard its insane

>>748355591
>Persona without the waifus
It was ngmi

>>748358070
This, but E33.

>>748355591
The game is mediocre as hell and the hype felt completely astroturfed and had no legs

>>748357307
Zootopia is a kids movie

>>748357004
Yeah because they're too afraid to make these clickbait articles anymore after Atlus yelled at them kek

>>748355591
The only atlus games i've played are the etrian odyssey's, i'm not sure if i'd like this.

>>748355591
No crazy political choices to argue with people online about
Not even a Chaos/Neutral/Law trichotomy like in SMT

>>748356798
Because the threads keep dying and OP can't convince anyone the game flopped anymore

Don't worry.
Tendies will buy 20 gorillion copies like they say it always happens.

>>748356504
>7R derangement schizo

>>748355591
Didnt it sell pretty well and make a profit though? I mean sure, its not Persona numbers, but who cares? They keep making SMT games despite also not having Persona numbers, and they keep waiting 10 years to make the next Persona DESPITE it having persona numbers.

>>748356870
Yeah, Persona 5 had already showed signs of hamfisted storytelling and one dimensional trope-laden characters, but Metaphor really took it to the next level of blandness. I have very low hopes for Persona 6.

How is it mechanically? Is it just another Megaten game? Any gimmicks?

>>748358420
You're talking to someone that keeps making these threads knowing that he's wrong

>>748358198
You can go with the cute tribal girl and fairy end is also implied, the problem is that the choices to go that route are at the very end of their social link/game

>>748358489
I havent been on /v/ in like 10+ months, didnt know it was a ritual thread. Guess I should have been able to tell though

>>748358481
It's Megaten but worse. It has a job system which sounds cool at first but basically everyone just gets the same "stands" in different colors. And from what I heard you're ultimately railroaded into "optimal" classes for every character anyways. Your characters barely even do anything they mostly just summon their stands to make them do their attacks, so your cast barely even has an identity in combat.
You can do action combat before initiating turn-based, but it's somehow worse than the the game it copied this from (Trails)

>>748355992
Ironically, it took like 2 weeks for E33 to finally get recognized because everyone was shilling the Oblivion remaster at the time.

>>748358603
also there's a calendar system that feels completely superfluous. You have to do the usual s-link crap to grind your social stats, except the s-links are completely boring and usually with faceless peons instead of actually likeable memorable characters with unique portraits and such. You can really tell they wanted to make something unique and then just gave up and reverted to their Persona comfort zone anyways.

>>748358603
>And from what I heard
lol
lmao

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>>748358665
I didn't finish it

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>>748356324
HAG-A-licious!

>>748358707
I'm sure you didn't given how badly metaphor raped trails the year it came out. probably couldn't think about anything else

>>748358523
>it is implied
have an implied sell then

>>748358757
>consolewar shit
Also the remakes are selling gangbusters so your argument is backfiring anyways

my point was more so that they copied a system from a different JRPG and somehow just made it worse.

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>>748355591
This is how you know a video game didn't fail despite praise

Won't buy untill the next version I'm not gonna be tricked

>>748358840
you're going to feel incredibly stupid when the next version has an upgrade path from the existing and you will just not buy it anyway until you can get both the base and the expansion for cheap

>>748358757
>I'm sure you didn't given how badly metaphor raped trails the year it came out.
Ok now how many Trails games came out when they announced they were working on this game and how much money did they spend making them?

>>748358915
See I wouldn't even play base Metaphor if I got it for free because every single time I've done this shit Atlus always released an "upgrade". I'm not gonna beta test for this faggot ass company anymore

>>748358814
>consolewar
illiterate
>the remakes are selling gangbusters
can't do math either especially if you're comparing to this game
Like for all the shilling you retard did for Sky 2nd it has like 1/8 of your precious steamchart number that metaphor did
And for all the shilling Kondo did for Sky 1st it's still never gotten another sales milestone and sold less than half of what this game did

>>748355591
the mc design is super lame

>>748358962
they made two good games and two shit ones from 2019 to late 2024 iirc, all four were flops though

>>748355591
Atlus bad habit of releasing a "better version" of everything they do later has finally come to bite them in the ass, loads of people didn't try metaphor because they are expecting a "ultimate edition" to come out.

>>748358832
This guy admitted to being "well into" his forties by the way. Incredibly grim.

Atlus lost.
Square enix won.

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Many people ware expecting a Gold version whit more content you have to buy again and play from the beginning to see the new content.
As is the MO of Atlus.

So many people decided ti wait.

>>748356143
That and the constant "propaganda". People became more sensitive to those shit and are being more aware of how some games try to manipulate you.
I wonder how will be the legs of Fire Emblem, now that it has a ton of faggots and cucks.

>>748355591
goycattle are slowly catching on to the woke propaganda

>>748359291
>>748359310
>loads of people
there's never been any evidence for this btw, besides the people that don't have money insisting that they aren't a minority. And you hear this said on /v/ way way more than anywhere else. I wonder why that is.

>>748359205
Actually they made 6
>All 4 were flops though
Doesn't matter when the series is still getting entries.

>>748359356
>No evidence
Here is your evidence
https://www.theouterhaven.net/sega-admits-that-releasing-definitive-editions-may-be-hurting-initial-sales/

>>748359364
No I was right, it was 4. They did the cold shit ensemble game and then kuro, kuro cold shit 2 tier finale edition and kai during that period. But I think you know that which is why you cope that there won't be another metaphor game either.

>>748359529
They did CS3 CS4 HAJIMARI
KURO KURO 2 KAI

Unlike Atlus who has been stuck on a single persona game in the last decade Falcom still has regular releases for better or worse.

>>748355709
People will point at Persona but the deeper underlying issue is that Metaphor was trying to branch out into more serious/less pandery storytelling but the only people who were interested in it were the Persona fans and they just wound up disappointed because it wasn't Girlfriend Simulator 6

>>748359706
I was initially interested in it until I saw that it was persona with more boring stands

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>>748359512
>may be
And we know they ruled this out after investigating, because they kept the definitive edition branding for Sonic Frontiers on shitch 2 that came out after this. And we know they were never talking about Atlus games also because the flops with "high ratings" in question they disclosed at the end of the FY were these. There was no mention of "initial" sales either which wouldn't make a lick of sense for Atlus games anyway because each new release has been out-doing the initial sales of the last game

>>748359631
I can tell from how you worded this that you know they didn't start working on the game before 2019 and that upsets you for some reason

>>748359826
>shitch 2
So you are just a shitposter.

>>748359512
something I noticed is that only these random websites no one gives a shit about ran articles on this
then I actually read one of them and it turns out the story had nothing to do with Persona or Metaphor

>>748359891
Nope, it's a little turd and I say that owning one. Now about the substance of the argument...

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>>748359064
god you're fucking annoying, all this because I said Metaphor is mediocre

>>748360105
I said all that because you were coping that trails was doing amazing and obv were very upset metaphor existed and the result was very funny

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>>748355591
they diversified too close to the sun... many such cases.

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>>748360210

I enjoyed it and i got a solid 125 hrs out of 1 playthrough
calendar management/difficulty on hard seem abit more forgiving than persona though

>>748358334
Nintendo Derangement Syndrome lol

>>748360260
unbelievably based

>>748355591
journo bait
thats really it

>>748360001
>and I say that owning one
post a photo with timestamp then

>>748355591
no one wants to play pedo weebslop outside of 10 anons on here

>>748356143
>personafags will refuse to play an rpg if it's not a watered down dating simulator
gas personafags

>>748360479
Victim Syndrome

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>>748358481
Its has a semi-unique mix and match job system where you build your character off different classes. Think like DDS, but there are prerequisites to each class and their evolutions. So you CAN make the mage character go into berserker if you level them a bunch in warrior and stuff, if you need to pick up a skill. It has social links that also effect how many skills you can cross over. Max is 4. Class exp is separate from character exp, and if you "overlevel" a class by 1000 class exp, you get an item worth 1000 class exp that can be used on anyone, so you can catch up new party members pretty fast.

Social links arent super strict and there is no affection system, the "optimal" answers just give more material to buy crossover skills. Which is nice, but you can farm it so its not necessary.

The classes themselves have some fun ideas, but the execution could have been a bit better. Like I like the idea of the merchant class, but it is stupidly overtuned. If you play, seriously dont do merchant until later. Try out gunner and commander and other stuff first. Masked Dancer is cool but I wish you didnt have to lock an accessory to it to make it have full skills. Summoner is fun once you get it going. Mage line is unfortunately tied to story progression like star/magician in P4/P5, but its not too terrible. unfortunately you get a "final" class to go for at endgame, which takes away from the builds kinda, though they do have prerequisites in line with your typical builds anyway. Though to put it in perspective, my MC rocked evolved Merchant over his final class. Yea. Its that broken.

It had a lot of fun ideas, though it suffers a bit from feeling too much like a persona game in the beginning especially. It gets better on that end as it goes, but the first 10 hours youre going to be thinking "this is medieval fantasy persona". I would like to see a metaphor 2 where they refine it, but I dont know if that is ever going to happen. I had fun.

>>748361040
considering how raped you snoyggers are, yeah, that's probably a more accurate label for you lmao

>>748361353
>b-but snoy
Don't even own one, but glad they live rent free in you.

>>748361523
much like tendies live with you then?

>>748361152
W-Who told you that?!

>>748355591
For a totally new series it sold good enough, hope they do a sequel but maybe not in fantasy but on another genre

>>748355631
25 money for garbage is considered cheap? Maybe at 10, no make that 5

Ass too flat
Even kids have better asses

>>748356434
It sure beats the template lazy UI in every sony game

>>748356536
When was anime ever not embarrassing to consume?

>>748361152
OC? On MY ritual shitpost general???

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I'm still waiting. I will buy this game on release date.

>>748355591
Pearls before swine, this is why we get wolverine

>>748355591
It's really just a fantasy SMT and global players only know Atlust from Persona 5's memes.

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>>748361602
I know exactly how they think, i'm one of them.

>>748361784
Anime is pretty fucking mainstream now my guy. I see anime bumper stickers like every other day and hear teens talking about it in public. I see normal looking adults with normalfag anime shirts on a lot too.

>>748361863
>multicultural shilling
>pearls
this piece of shit falls in the same category as S0iverine: TRASH

>>748361901
>no timestamp
>4chan file name
Nice try, nigger.

>>748361972
>culture war retard
The game shows that there are both assholes and good people on all races in game. Its not like it props up one race as being brave and all the rest as evil, like your typical woke game. If you have a problem with that portayal, you apparently hate most storytelling with fantasy races every in vidya.

>>748362015
Post switch and hand.

>make persona 5 but remove the one thing that made it popular
WAO

>>748362183
Persona 5 was about assassinating a would be dictator?

>>748362182
I asked you first.

>>748362229
well you know
politicians

>>748362268
I did tho u blind nig

>>748362229
persona 5 is about regressing to high school to pretend you weren't a loser faggot

>>748355591
the game is mediocre at best

the writing is fucking retarded and bloated as fuck and is the worst part of the game
the gameplay is pretty fun
the music is meh on average

woke garbage with a shitty story

>>748355992
>It launched against Expedition 33
are we just making shit up now?

>>748362389
We heard you the first ten times

>>748358832
now where have I seen this autism before...

>>748355591
I'm still waiting for the enhanced port

>>748360260
I kneel

>>748362474
Honestly its way more common in the past few years. It feels like every decently successful vidya has at least one autist dedicating his life to endlessly shitting up any thread on the topic. Probably a strong indicator of societies collapse into hysteria and mental illness in general

Having shills tell people to buy a game does not work.

>>748360260
What compels these creatures to keep at it for years? Do they seriously have nothing better going on?

>>748355591
It's Persona without the escapism which is the only reason people play Persona

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>>748355591
>another Metaphor seethe thread
Why are retards so mad about this game?

>>748358206
They were both heavily astroturfed and then immediately forgotten

>>748362657
Worked for Soulsshit

>>748355591
First RPG I dropped in a long time. Huge fan of SMTV:V and the other SMT games and Ive played JRPGs since the 1990s but this game? I dropped it about 1/3rd of the way in and I'll tell you why it is because there is way WAY too much useless dialog. It's cutscene after cutscene and 1 hour of chat boxes where you couldn't explain what was just said. It felt like Fire Emblem 3 houses turned up to 100 in the worst way. The games combat was ok but it fights you left and right to prevent you from enjoying it and would rather you talk to NPCs all day. Yeah no thanks, even Monster Hunter Stories 3 felt like a breath of fresh air by comparison.

>>748362657
Worked tor E33

>>748362717
you are too obvious
now continue your ritualposts

>>748362690
Literally any setting outside of non-fiction is "escapism" you retard. If anything, its MORE "escapist" because you arent as grounded in a common reality, ie highschool. Youre maybe looking for "relatable power fantasy", but even thats a stretch

>>748360210
Can't wait for more sandniggers to burn down chink temples, in sha alla

>>748362769
Worked for Persona

>>748355591
It sold well initially because of hype but the game is genuinely shit and poor word of mouth killed it

the e33 seethe thread poster is the same autist making metaphor threads
thank me later

because its lame and faggot

>>748362769
>maybe 20 minutes of cut scene story stuff, then gameplay/social sim for hours before the next 20 minutes.
>WOW ITS NOTHING BUT DIALOGUE
Uh huh.

>>748355591
Rebirth won

>>748362896
20 minutes of story isn't a lot to you? what the fuck

>wave of the same tired word salad shitposts
>nobody replying back when engaged
>post times
Very organic.

>>748363034
very organic like this thread and that one ritualposting autistic retard

>>748361152
Thanks man. Ill probably pick it up at some point.

>>748362356
You posted someone else's image you saved from here, not anything like what I asked for now is it, you retarded faggot.

>>748362896
Fuck right off it is way more than 20 minutes. Being disingenuous for the sake of it is just sad. There is just so much side quest slop with useless dialog and the story is also the very same. Cutscene, cutscene, 1 5 minute boss fight, cutscene, cutscene, cutscene, another 5 minute fight. Finally, a DUNGEON! Congrats you beat the dungeon enjoy another 2 hours of dialog in town.

>>748363004
In a 60-80 hour game? No. Its roughly a fourth of the game time probably.

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>>748355591
They should just stick to SMT and Persona. One has a cool story and legacy, and the other has fanservice. Metaphor had none. They learned nothing from Catherine.
At least Metaphor had good music

>>748355591
Atlus games always had terrible fucking gameplay. Even Pokemon mogs the floor with them.

>>748363120
>Fuck right off it is way more than 20 minutes.
Outside the very opening part? Yea, its usually 20 minutes or less.
>Being disingenuous for the sake of it is just sad.
Ironic.
>There is just so much side quest slop
So not mandatory. You are bitching about a role playing game having dialogue and story telling, including the optional content.
>Cutscene, cutscene, 1 5 minute boss fight, cutscene, cutscene, cutscene, another 5 minute fight.
A boss fight is dialogue now? Are you actually fucking retarded?
>Finally, a DUNGEON! Congrats you beat the dungeon enjoy another 2 hours of dialog in town.
This didnt happen by the way.

>>748362769
>Huge fan of SMTV:V
there it is

>>748355591
IMO, it was a good and solid game, it was just very bland. I went back and tried to do a solo MC run like I've done with Personas 3-5 so far, and didn't even get past the castle dungeon before I was basically forcing myself through it and stopped. I liked the idea of archetypes but they just felt very eh, there wasn't a ton of variety, and some of the ultimate archetypes felt like they had some very weird requirements.

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>>748355591
Gameplay is repetitive as fuck. At least in Persona I can hang out in Tokyo and bang some cuties.

>>748363214
>pokemon
If youre going to shitpost, make it believable

>>748363449
>nigger never played a pokemon game in his entire life

>>748363350
Yea. I can see the potential and wouldnt mind the system making a comeback in another game, but it needs refined

>>748363449
>xhe thinks I am shitposting
Persona 3 Reload is a literal baby game and plays itself, it is easier than any Switch Pokemon title, it is insanity. You fucking retard.

>>748363538
this is correct
and 4 will be even shittier

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>>748363324
>So not mandatory.
First Atlus game? Side quests are essential in their games if you want decent equipment, skill points, and anything else unless you turn the difficulty down.
>just play normal mode then
Yeah take away from the core experience to enjoy their games more. It happened alright.

>>748355591
Doesn't that happen all the time? It's why you have cult classic as a term.

>>748363476
On the contrary, I was there for pokemania, kept playing when it was considered gay to like pokemon, watched as normalfaggots "rediscovered" it and then gamefreak shit the bed a few gens ago. I also did some comp faggotry back in the day.
I can safely tell you that nuPokemon is slop, and that the only real mechanical depth in pokemon comes from comp faggotry. Certainly not going through the actual base game.
>B-But what about [boss power spike faggot]
Having something with a modicum of challenge at the very end of the game when youve been able to mindlessly unga bunga through the last 30-40 hours with zero incentive to deviate from that is more annoying than anything. Pokemon is absolutely not more challenging or interesting as a base game than any recent Atlus game.

>>748363773
Don't get me wrong, Pokemon is shit too.

>>748363753
It does, but it didn't happen with this game anyway and OP is a clickbait gamerant article. Metaphor's legs are just about identical to P3R's and the only game in the entire Atlus catalogue that has better than either of them is P5

>>748363509
Ironically, this is one of the Atlus game that desperately needs an "updated" version.
One thing I actually did like about the game was bosses having certain things that would affect their behavior and potentially make it easier/harder, like going apeshit if your entire party was in the front row, and you had to actively go out of your way to find information about it, like doing research to get ready for a tough enemy. It had two main issues for me that kind of let it down.
A. The only way to get the info was paying an info broker money to just hand over everything. A bit more variety might have helped, like some being from them, others you have to track down an NPC who fought it before or something.
B. From memory(it's been a while since I played admittedly), the system was way too binary, in the sense that if you did the thing the boss didn't like, it would generally just respond by wiping your party. If the entire party being in front made it more reckless and it did extra damage but took extra damage in return, that could be a fun extra layer to add to the fight, weighing if you want to eat the extra damage to end the fight faster or hang back and play bit safer.

>>748363538
>brings up the demake as a gotcha
Explain right now how pokemon "mogs" something like SMT4A or SMTVV in mechanical depth you disingenuous faggot. Regale me about how ebinly thought provoking it is to catch 5 mons and then unga bunga with an overleveled starter until he eventually gets knocked out, and you sac one of your other 5 mons to revive it so it can continue its rape spree. Go on.

>add fairy but no romance
It decided to fail by itself

>>748363903
>SMT
ok I should have clarified, I meant Persona, Metaphor is its child (spiritual successor); and Persona always had shit gameplay.

>>748355591
it's me, sorry. I don't buy games with denuvo

>>748363727
>Side quests are essential in their games if you want decent equipment, skill points, and anything else unless you turn the difficulty down.
It isnt. You can buy good equipment that will easily carry you through the game. You can get plenty of exp in dungeons. The biggest thing would be that some SLs are locked behind a few sidequests. Still optional, still not mandatory. I beat it on hard without having to do a lot of sidequests very easily. The thing you need to work on is class exp for skills, which you effectively have infinite of if you must, though the game does a fairly good job catching you up if you are "behind level"

>>748363903
>brings up the demake
isn't it like the future of Atlus? They will remake 5 too.

>>748363842
Cool. It still isnt "mogging" atlus games in mechanical depth outside of the 2% of users who actually do comp.

>>748364014
Metaphor is far more like an SMT game than a persona game mechanically. No one mores, no assists, press turn system, etc. The system itself is more akin to digital devil saga than persona.
Please play the fucking game before trying to comment on it.

>>748364165
would have agreed but... Z-A mogs

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>Be woke
>Have to make 10 Million Sales regardless of the actual cost it makes your game
>Be chud
>Doesn't have to sell anything for your shit to be lauded as a success here

>>748363885
The only time the behavior gimmick really wipes the party is in the very first side dungeon they do it in that was in the demo because your spellcasters are weak to the type of attack that gets used and that's assuming you don't take advantage of having the magic damage to kill them faster. If you killed the dragon in the 2nd tutorial dungeon they also make that easier to pull off because you get fire damage on a weapon.

>>748363949
You can flirt with her and you are heavily implied to end up with her.

>>748364307
I havent played it since I stopped playing pokemon post arceus/SwSh, but unless its radically different from Arceus, I really doubt that.

>>748355591
>no romance
I'm not wasting my time with that slop, sorry.

>>748364315
>go into a thread for a game that was neither of those things and make shit up
do shills really count as chuds at that point

>>748364418
it is real time combat, and feels like a kiddy Persona game but in Pokemon world with a banger ost wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvSlzzXpZEQ

>>748364484
So you've probably said at least 3 times in this very thread

>>748364014
NTA but even Purseowner has more nuance than fucking pokemon lol. Like you atleast have to put a little thought into fusing to make a snowballed uber demon. Where as Pokemon is literally just clearing shit with your starter and having 5 other pokes as back up just in case the starter gets crit or something. There is a reason why fans had to do a bunch of self imposed rules to limit your level before gyms and just catching a bunch of shit.

>>748356504
The difference is this is functional. Its easy to read and has everything you need. Atlus however wants everything to be STYLIZED which just makes for busy menus. Compare P4's menu, which was stylish and functional, to the mess in the remake and you'll see what I mean. Less is often more.

>>748364535
So basically just Arceus 2?

Can't fuck the fairy
Lost my sale immediately.

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>>748355591
>june 2025
Crazy how much this game makes OP seethe just because of some gay awards show
Still sold more than Rebirth even without a switch port btw (which is coming soon)

>>748364681
its a Legends game I guess, no exploration
It is entirely focused on fighting, instead of catching

>>748355591
Got burned by not waiting for SMTVV, decided to wait for ReReFantazio, saw all the mixed feedback between mildly unsatisfied Purseowner fans and SMTfags and then forgot it existed. Also fantasy RPGs are a dime a dozen, I always liked that SMT games took place in a modern setting.

>>748364608
Except Persona 3 Reload which is for literal monkeys where the biggest challenge is to die

>>748364731
Eh. Not really interested at this point. Taking away the catching and exploration just makes it a battle sim, which means that fights need to be actually challenging. And at which point, I might as well just boot up showdown.

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>>748364806
>mixed reviews

>>748364906
they didn't take those out entirely, they are just there
the game functions literally like Persona 3 where at day you goof up with a crew of colorful characters, and at night you fight

the DLC is notorious for adding a timer to it and making everything moderately difficult, which to the average Pokefag translates to Insane mode. It was funny seeing the backlash.

>>748363093
No problem, hope you like it

>flirt & heavily implied
Insufficient

>>748364962
he means mixed /v/ shitposts lol

Social links had to do too much worldbuilding, like you have to know about the history of glorpthok slavery to get to know hamsteak the bloffrothek. SLs having quirky highly personal characters occupying a social niche you don't need spelled out to you is why they work in Persona

>>748365036
>the DLC is notorious for adding a timer to it and making everything moderately difficult, which to the average Pokefag translates to Insane mode. It was funny seeing the backlash.
Kek, ok that is pretty funny. Meh, maybe Ill check it out.

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>>748365084
I mean its just OP replying to his own thread over and over again but still funny to see what bs he comes up with, especially if its so easily disprovable

OP gave up completely on structuring his replies even slightly differently from one to the other after last time

>>748365064
>No, I need to select an option from a menu and then the girl blushes and the screen goes black and it says "you spend a long time together", its so much better because I navigated a very simple menu
Also you can literally do this with the tribal girl by the way.

>>748365181
>OP replied to his own thread over 200 times
Man, this is some incredible cope. I have written like 3 responses.

>>748365181
It's BA7RY, a schizo obsessed with all "enemies" of the FF7R games. Look him up.

>>748365283
but in persona the girl says I love you before the censored kissing scene if they have one at all!!!

>>748358070
>this shit was astroturfed so hard its insane
Metaphor in particular? Yeah i agree.

>>748365282
>FF7R3 gets announced for Switch
>metaphor gets announced for Switch
>flamewars intensify for weeks
OP is not being very subtle, especially using screenshots from articles from last year

>>748365295
>I only samefagged 3 times I promise
But like you admitted that you're doing it anyway so why would anyone trust you about how many times you said you did it

>>748356504
rebirth sucks but what's the problem with this UI? It looks pretty decent

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>>748365336
>a schizo obsessed with all "enemies" of the FF7R games
What a sad existence.

>>748365110
I would argue that SLs in persona are also really fucked for the exact reason you are laying out. They cant be tied to the story without sequence breaking, so you get bland nothing burgers. Any change in a character is superficial. It is jarring when you get Ryuji to level 10 and he's all calm and matured and everything, then the next day you get a story cutscene and he's back to being the same easily agitated retard and trying to choke out the cat. Thats not even getting into persona evolution shit.
Persona 3 Original/FES literally did it the only right way (for main girls, lol at side characters) in so far that the persona evolutions were tied to story events and not because jesus MC guided them to enlightenment.

>>748365336
What does enemies even fucking mean? Rebirth is a western style action game, Metaphor an anime turnbased RPG, like they have nothing in common?

>rebirth sucks
Imagine believing this

>>748355591
My view as an outsider that just follows these game through news and ads, Persona looks cool and has cohesive style while Metaphor felt like it was all over the place, a mish mash of things, and failed to portray that "modern fantasy" theme that other games like Steel Cold have.

>>748365181
Stop coping. Everybody just hates whiny, low-IQ turn niggers and their shitty games.

>>748365764
it was censored too

>>748365283
>>748365345
This is what I dont fucking get about the people bitching about muh romance and acting like Persona is incredible at it. It isnt. You listen to their shit for 7 isolated events, then you get an opportunity to select "I am attracted to you". You get 2ish events of holding a hand or some shit, a censored kiss, and thats it. Like holy hell, THATS what youre playing an 80+ hour game for? THATS what prevents you from playing other games? Its like watching shonen anime only for the shipping. You know god damn well it is a fraction of the series at best and will be resolved at some arbitrary endpoint, why are you convincing yourself otherwise?
Couldnt be me man.

>>748365784
I noticed its always muh reel tiem faggots that bitch and cry and moan like blubbering vaginas over turn based games, never the other way around. They also never seem to be playing their preferred games and always beg for all turn based games to cater to them instead of playing what they like. I thought that was interesting.

>>748365574
>Persona 3 Original/FES literally did it the only right way
Yeah having only second awakenings for characters that round out very small character arcs with little substance in the plot while only 2 characters in the entire game have their first awakenings happen on screen was such a good idea and not just a strictly worse version of having character arcs culminate in first awakenings without having to wait 50 hours to get to that point, they definitely haven't gone back to this since and still won't in P6 despite how much of a good idea it is
Metaphor followers mog the vast majority of persona SLs also mainly on the basis of the character stories being way more compelling with one or two exceptions. It also added the teeniest tiniest little bit of dimension to what you typically see in a persona romance despite there not being any which is really funny because you have one of the love interests that's clearly into you but also doesn't want to be queen

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>>748365784
>everybody
its time to stop coping, OP

>>748365679
The open world, which is the biggest part of the game, sucks.

>>748355898
Seriously within minutes of starting the game she starts with that bullshit.

>>748366152
even before they showed that recent garbage Revelations gameplay I was already completely checked out when it was said that Chadley would have a bigger role

>>748365181
but how else do we talk about metaphor? All threads about it are either some pedo thread about gallica or a "no cultural impact/why did it fail" thread.

>>748366331
so P5 threads basically?
How did people talk about P5 for 10 years? They waited until new P5 content came out and then they talked about it, laughed at some retards and left

Why does the MC of Metaphor look like a faggot version of the P3 MC?

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Metaphor sucks in so many ways... it has a few moments with good presentation but thats it otherwise, the story sucks, the progression sucks, the graphics suck, the dialog sucks and the combat is a massive step down from atlus' other games.

>>748366397
because you're projecting your fear of having opportunities taken from you by Indians onto someone that doesn't look white

No waifus no cultural relevance

>>748355841
It's the jewish fairy doing a 40 hour long talmudic lesson.

>>748366406
this but almost the exact opposite of this

>>748362424
It's an LLM bot

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>>748365679
Many do
>sequel soon
>barely any hype or people revisiting Rebirth despite it having a 70% discount
No wonder OP is forced to seethe about other RPGs line FE, Atlusgames or other SE games instead

>>748366426
is Metaphor woke tho

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>>748365784
>low-IQ turn niggers
You need an IQ of at least 70 to 80 to drive a car. It appears to be similar for video games.

>>748366560
never was and never will be

>>748366591
>The Weekend already cheating on Wada
Maybe someone told him that Wada wasn't the key decision maker or ideas guy for any Persona game he played

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>>748366556
simple really, the og is superior

>>748366004
>Yeah having only second awakenings for characters that round out very small character arcs with little substance in the plot while only 2 characters in the entire game have their first awakenings happen on screen was such a good idea
Literally yes. Cute how you are trying to be dismissive about "very small character arcs with little substance" while advocating for even less actual substance with MC jesus giving them an evolution that amounts to literally nothing on their story line character. Also cute how you are trying to downplay it. Akihiko/Junpei persona evolution mogs the absolute fuck out of literally every single side character evolution in P4/5 from sheer narrative weight alone.
>they definitely haven't gone back to this since and still won't in P6 despite how much of a good idea it is
Are we pretending that Atlus is infallible and incapable of making bad decisions? Or that a majority normalfaggot consensus is automatically good? Objectively, it is better to have a persona evolution actually affect the character in the fucking storyline than it to not be. The entire point of an evolution is a change in fucking mindset. Me getting Ryuji to rank 10 and having his persona awaken and then him going back to square one the next day is fucking ass.

>>748356324
>She's 28, you know that?

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I 100% it, the combat was good but everything else felt awful. Really they should have taken more inspiration from SMTV than the absolute dogshit modern persona series

The game is way too railroaded, dungeons are exceptionally ugly and bland, and look like something out of a AA ps2 RPG, other than two story dungeons. There is also obvious cut content and companions, and you get the final companion so late into the game he feels irrelevant to care about

It felt so promising at the start, the world was pretty interesting and the shonen style competition plot for the throne was a good hook, they just dropped the ball halfway through. Meanwhile I've gone back to play SMT5 multiple times since, especially with the new story dlc changing things up, but i'll never play Refantazio again

>>748366556
kek it even has less reviews? that's surprising.

I'm not the audience for this game, but compared to other games that it's compared to itt, I don't even know what it's about.
I know that E33 is about some sort of fantasy world created with magic and there are painters an authors at war or something.
I know Persona is kids going into the japanese version of the noosphere or whatever to fight crime and rapey teachers.
I know FF is final fantasy and it's been around for ever and is a household name, but for some reason each one is entirely different.

What is Metaphor? Nobody ever explains what it's about, it's just redhead elf posting and bitching about no sales.

>>748355591
Despite how some people tried praise the lack of "waifufaggotry", it's absolutely why the game flopped.
But another reason is, while I think the story is overall better than P5, it also just doesn't stand out? Despite what people says, there aren't many JRPGs like persona that take place in modern sitting and kind of a life sim. On the other hand, there are absolutely many JRPGs that are like Metaphor (at a first glance at least). So, for the average person, this is just another fantasy JRPG.

>>748366560
the only bad part of the game is the retarded noble mother, who fed innocent people and murdered and tortured children for her retarded demon baby, and we end up being forced to forgive the evil cunt and then the game forces you to be friends with her. I was itching to put her into a grave

>>748366905
>The title originated from the game's early development code name, Project Re Fantasy. Because the developers at Studio Zero (creators of the Persona series) spent decades making modern-day and urban games, ReFantazio signifies their "return to fantasy" or making "fantasy again" on their own terms.

>>748366665
You don't even have to get Ryuji to Rank 1 to get a character arc with more going on in it than anything the P3 cast gets, which is the point. The party social links from 4 onward just make it impossible for 3 to compare favorably with either game because it's a whole extra thing on top of that. There's nothing in P3 to downplay because the second awakenings in 3 are simply a worse executed version of the first awakenings in 4 and 5 and this is taking into account how the P4 character arcs are still on the shorter side.
Junpei's character arc is maybe the best thing 3 has to offer but it's also not any good either because most of it revolves around an offscreen romance they've had 3 attempts since the game first came out to make decent yet haven't touched meaningfully at all.

>>748367018
>we end up being forced to forgive the evil cunt and then the game forces you to be friends with her
Is not even what happened in this sequence

>>748367053
wherever you got that from that's some bs, the Re stands for Rethink

>>748366004
>Metaphor followers mog the vast majority of persona SLs also mainly on the basis of the character stories being way more compelling with one or two exceptions.
I think theyre good, but thats more that the story/setting allows it to breathe. Simply put, you can have the freedom to have Strohl tackle his issues with housing his people, Heismay to adequately mourn his son, etc. Comparatively, teenagers are limited because most of their life is school and typical adolescence. There isnt much room for compelling conflict outside of really fucked up childhood upbringing or a tragic event. Even then, you get decent stuff from overlooked side characters in Persona. Naoki for example in p4 actually tackled a real problem with grief. I resonated with him on my second playthrough, because my Mom passed away between that and my first. You do end up feeling like "when is it ok to be happy again?" and "Am I a bad person because I want to laugh at some dumb shit and stop constantly thinking about how I wish I hadnt been such a shithead in my childhood and made my Mom's life harder" that the SL tackles. But its overlooked because muh waifu. Which I mean shit, I like romancing the girls too, but it is a shame that it overshadows everything else.
Again, this is why Metaphor's SLs felt a bit more compelling to me even though it had similar "beats" to a persona SL. The "real" conflicts didnt get overshadowed by which girl you need to fuck as much. Heismay in general shits on the majority of Persona characters. But thats because the game itself allows a character like him to exist in even the main cast and get some focus.

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>>748366378
Well, OP isnt a fan of Metaphor, the only game he likes is the FF7 Remake series. He didnt care about this game until it "stole" best RPG at TGA, since then hes been going at an autistic crusade against Metaphor with daily threads where half the posts to OP are from himself. In one thread he got banned for spamming and a hundred or so posts got deleted lol.

>>748366976
The game didn't flop, but you know this and you just want to make it sound like it did because you don't want them to exclude romance from their next game

>>748367113
its been a while since I played so I forgot some of the stortline, I know the noble Joanna gets executed, but the game for sure tries its hardest to make you sympathise with her and "feel bad" and its the most forced dogshit imaginable. It only made me want to hurt her more, she's the Lindsay Clancy of Refantazio

>>748355591
The core JRPG base are zoomer/gen alpha who just want Persona so they can have a high school fantasy where they weren't complete losers.

>>748367053
that doesn't explain what the game is about
you know, the stuff you'd put on the back of a vhs tape box to entice people into renting or buying it

>>748357824
>>748355631
You guys realize they had a TGS sale literally up last night on most storefronts, right? Of course not.

>>748367243
They want you to feel bad for her having her infant baby murdered by some schizo woman. They don't want you excusing her from everything she did. The writers aren't white women on tiktok

>>748367316
you could read the back of the metaphor box if you have to ask a question this dumb in the first place

>>748367161
It sold less than fucking FE3H, a fucking Fire Emblem game, despite being on way more platforms and going on sales way more often. Heck, it sold less than P3R from the same year, and that got WAY less push than Metaphor from Atlus/Sega.

>>748355591
It's Persona if it were weird diversity and multiculturalism propaganda. Yeah, the journos are going to love that shit as will certain twitter groups, but everyone else was just weirded out and it's hurt Atlas overall.

not persona
not smt either

>>748367054
>You don't even have to get Ryuji to Rank 1 to get a character arc with more going on in it than anything the P3 cast gets, which is the point.
Absolutely not.
>There's nothing in P3 to downplay because the second awakenings in 3 are simply a worse executed version of the first awakenings in 4 and 5
Please. The first awakenings start getting stale after about 3 of them, it is a retread every time. It doesnt hold the same narrative weight as its just an awakening, the evolution should have more. P3 does this right.
>no actually-
You can remember the exact scene of someone like Akihiko evolving his persona, or Junpei, or Mitsuru, etc. What does Ann's evolution scene look like? No cheating. What was said, what was the resolution? I cant fucking remember it because it had that little story impact. How about Rise? What happens with Makoto's evolution? I sort of remember those I guess. I vividly remember everything about Junpei's, and I vividly remember how his after-battle dialogue became more subdued and focused afterwards to reflect this. Thats the difference.

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No ass, no buy

>>748367459
>not smt either
The best selling SMT sold worse than this, so not sure why you felt the need to include it here.

>>748367362
but it feels like they want you to, she didn't deserve the "tragic villain" shtick. And a better RPG would have given you the choice to execute her at your own discretion. The game ended up just being a visual novel with extra steps

>>748367532
SMT games are cheaper to make so they can keep making them with a small but loyal audience

>>748367438
The game goes out of its way to depict every race having assholes and good people alike.

>>748367438
I cant believe I got tricked into playing persona 5 by a friend, the absolute dogshit timed systems and railroaded plot and obnoxious cast

>>748367419
Metaphor is already at above 50% of 3H's lifetime sales in 2 years, and 3H is by far the most popular game in a long running series, which you know
And that's total bs about pushing Metaphor way more than P3R and you know it. Metaphor doesn't even have an expansion yet or any kind of post launch support at all and it's 200k copies behind P3R in the same period where P3R had both.

>>748367438
We had threads for 2 months here talking about the game, what are you talking about? Jannies literally had to delete them towards the end since it was approaching /vg/ territory

>>748367530
Persona 6 is going to be so fucking shit. The only reason I kept on playing is because I loved Ann's hot costume and tight Ass.

>>748367559
>SMT games are cheaper to make
???

>>748367532
because smt is more fun

>>748367532
>>748367559
There isn't a single mainline SMT game that has full blown anime cutscenes like Metaphor does (said cutscenes are very expensive despite only being a few minutes long each)

>>748367559
Bro, this game reused shit ton of assets from other Atlus games, and half of the game have no voice acting. It's not exactly the most expensive game out there.

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>>748355591
The only soulful thing about this game is how NPCs throughout the world update their dialogue along side story progression, but otherwise this game is low quality trash that feels rushed out the door.
OST & Story? Completely forgettable
Combat gameplay? 4/10
Other gameplay (Social links, level design, etc)? 2/10
Visuals? 4/10. They didn't even try. All you had to do was copy Persona 5

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>>748367530
Works on my machine