By the end of next year AI will be good enough that you'll be able to create pretty much any mod you want for any game.What's next for modding?
may i see those high quality ai-made mods?
AGI is delusion and AI is getting 4% better for an exponential amount of more money
>the starting point for most game devs will be overrun with AIjeets>"what's next for modding?"Nothing.
>>748529550The amount of vibe coded slop that gets uploaded every day is fucking killing modding, dumb faggot retard. So many of these AI mods are literal snake oil that don't even fucking work.
>>748529550titties
There's no way AI will be good enough to code mods and if it EVER gets to that point it'll be heavily regulated. Come back to me when it can do real things like https://litter.catbox.moe/4hqxk8tclxzgx0qu.mp4
>>748529550however it goes i hope someone uses AI to create a nexusmods replacementfucking dogshit website forced me into making a google auth because of their own terrible securitywhen before you never needed an account in the first place...
>>748529550AI will be good enough to harvest your bank account for Microsoft and whichever banker has the CEO by the balls at the time, user capability is barely an afterthough.
lol you retards have no idea how many modders use AI these days, and what insane things they're doing
>>748529550I already released 2 mods and they're gaining popularity. I'm shocked at how many people in the comments can't read a single word from the description. Like not even the first sentence.
>>748530418educate us then
>>748529607>>748529636>>748529654>>748529785>>748529846https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isjBe4khZZc
>>748530726not impressed
>>748529550By next year ai will be good enough to be one year away from doing the thing.
They added DLSS to GTA4 using AI. It's a 2008 Direct3D 9 game. Pretty sure there's nothing AI can't do anymore
>>748530876it hasnt found me a girlfriend
>>748529785But anon in one year when there's 1 000 000x the amount of jeetslop spammed everywhere it will be good!!!!
>>748529550If I can have lewd mods for any game I want, I will reconsider my opinion on AI
>>748529607>>748529846>>748530838>>748530959just give up, discordtrannies. you've been replacedhttps://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/102435https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/172083https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/108772https://www.nexusmods.com/gta4/mods/1430https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/166560
>>748529550It's already a reality with simple games like Rimworld. Even if you know lick of coding you can point claude code/codex to the mod directory with what you want to implement and it'll do it.
>>748530726>let it build something>tears down the shops in a location>replaces them with upper class stores and a gazeboAGI has gentrified the projects.
>>748529550>lifetime sub back in 2012Feels good bros.
>>748529846This is a skyrimvr mod I'm proooompting, you can just make mods with a click of a button now sis.
>>748530726impressive
>>748531440>this is a mod I'm proooomptingW-What is the mod even doing?
some idea guys shouldn't be listened.
>>748531527I'm dashing around and sliding
>>748531440you're making a mod that gives the player parkinsons?
>let's see the human's mod
>>748531668the controls are on the left thumbstick double tap in the direction and you dash and I'm sitting in the test so there's a small loss of tracking
>>748531668yes its immersive
>>748530726this dude modded rocket league to gta san andreashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtjzS45Jl0w
It's revolutionary for voice acting. You could fully voice a game for a pittance >But my human voice actorsPriced out of reach for anything that isn't a big studio.
how many tokens are you realistically spending just to make a spell mod in skyrim?
Okay, but when will AI be good enough to actually play games>AI can play Minecraft!Yeah, some AI models can play specific games, but there are no models that you can drop into Minecraft then into Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden and it will slowly learn how to play those.
I fucking hate AI. This shit is going to ruin everything. I just want to go live in a hut and ignore the world.
>>748531876What's funny is using AI for voices is the fastest way to make your game flop.It's literally better to sell the game without voice acting at all.
>>748531876You don't need voice acting for games.
>>748532002But it's more immersive. Imagine Morrowind, but fully voiced>>748531959AI is like any other technology. There will be luddites but the reality is that pandora's box is already opened and there is no turning back. Embrace it, know its limitations, use it as just any other toolI think it is and will be revolutionary for game development. Can it be used to make slop? Yes. Is every developer being assisted by AI a slop producer? No, not necessarily
>>748531959I just use AI to add voices to old games like Exile and NWN
>>748532090>Imagine Morrowind, but fully voicedThe thought of it sickens me, Todd.
>>748532109Good, so it will happen even harder now.
>>748529550It's not about what your mod can do but if people know about it. This is why sites like nazimods are important.
>>748532173Okay?I won't install it either way.
>>748529636Many people would pay millions to make their brains 4% smarter.
>>748529550Sex
>I fucking hate AI. This shit is going to ruin everything. I just want to go live in a hut and ignore the world.
>>748531876They did that for Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk, It's pretty cool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJDyAXfvtmAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR6P7c3FJg0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxM9wtLaC98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlrl4Mggbx4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH2uQ1gkYoQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJB33IPXexEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Rr2A7eOqg
>>748529550I already make my own mods for the games I play and using AI has just made it a bit easier to do.
>>748532090You can be as preachy as you want but it's not gonna change games flopping for having AI voice acting
>>748531440What are you using, can you describe your process? I tried to use ChatGPT for something basic last year and it was so useless I wound up doing it normally
>make mods to self express and be creative>ai does it for youjust use other people's mods at this point
call me when it can do sex
>>748532680>ai does it for youMaybe, if you are a basic person, but, what if you are a creative person and AI just helps overcome limits that hampered materializing your creativity? Not everyone has the money or wants to get into crippling debt to make a game.
>>748532580Ask AI. The keywords are VS Code, Codex or Claude code
>>748532769If you are a creative person you don't need AI tho.
>>748532580Claude code and VS code you have to give it xmake/cmake this was last year I'm about to start on it again since I have time. You have to make sure claude understands clib or it'll hallucinate. It wasn't very good then but in the last few months AI slopping has improved even beyond what I was doing then.
>>748532680what the fuck does code have to do with self expression?it is a means to a result.i don't see why a mod made with human-made assets, but coded with AI, is such a catastrophe.a nigga that knows how to do shit in blender, shouldn't need to spend a lot of time just to learn coding for a game modification.>but knowledge is powernobody should spend their already limited free time just to learn how to give a futa model an erection for a mod. unless they're interested in coding, of course.
>>748529550and how much will that cost
>>748532358I used one of these with star wars jedi survivor
>>748532885Creation has different dimensionsYou can't be good at everything
>>748532885you can use it though
>>748533182holy shit i didn't know jedi survivor/fallen order had modshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B__HHeZZSnMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88gjbEf-c0
>>748529550>AI will be "good enough"that's the problem innit. i don't want "good enough" i want great
>>748533581its not really worth playing even with them though
>>748532863Sam Altman is reading your ChatGPT/COdex Chats
>>748532984many thanks
>>748534081Then don't submit confidential state of the art frontier work into the AI system then, retard.
No it wont, but I wish it was. Even if it can I can't afford the models that actually can do it for you. So I'll be waiting till about 2030 or so when that is actually reasonable.
>>748531264AGI is... BASED?!
>>748531713i rather have this than AI tho. AI is for bigger losers than leftists
>>748535205You're an idiot.
>>748531876>>748532358There is Warcraft 3 mods with Ai voiceacting too. It's a nifty feature since mods were always missing voice acting usually unless it was a big project.
>>748530948You GAI for that. Gigantic Artificial Intelligence.
>>748533645Most mods are dogshit, so good enough will be a huge upgrade.
>>748535205Let's see you build your computer from scratch, then. I am waiting.
>>748529550I know why some groups are against vibecoded mods but so so many mods just get canceled because the dev gets bored or distracted. Just the other day i saw that RE2 mod during the storm but it's on hold because the guy behind it decided to make a shitposting mod instead.Vibecoding can really speed up the development process before our monkey brains tap out.
>>748529550if its that good probably expansions
>>748536016>vibecodingI'm excited to see how this advances in the next 5 to 10 yearsMaybe idea guys won?
>>748536896It's already here dude. Idea guys are fucking retards though they'll never produce anything of worth since they'll never learn the bare minimum of anything of what they're trying to achieve. It still takes time and attention. Jack of all trades anons will thrive those who have some knowledge of coding and art can and will become Gods with the power of full studios at their fingertips.
>>748529550I just hope it makes assholes like shartmoor astronomically buttmad.
>>748536016desu if the modder isn't excited enough about the mod to make it by hand, it won't be any good. AI just opens up the possibility to make stuff no one wanted very much to begin with, wow. The one exception is really niche porn
>>748536016Check this out. AI can already make Gamecube games with just a few prompts.https://x.com/KalayaanInt/status/2103842365316481396In a few more months it can prompt any type of game for you.
>>748537158That's wild, but it is what it isI just want to adapt and not be left behind
>>748538180Same, don't care what people say my guess will be a hit.
>>748529550It won't even be called modding anymore.It will be called godding.
>>748538787kek
>>748529550>By the end of next year AI will be good enough that...NoNo it won't.
>>748540715And AI will never draw hands too, right?There is exponential progress year after year, yet you fags deny it.
>>748540825AI shit keeps fucking up hands, yes.Also since people have flooded the Internet with AI garbage, AI models themselves have been pozzed by their own creations. It would not surprise me in the slightest if it starts getting worse and worse instead of improving.
>>748540825and yet none of the background remain consistant in the right version.there are multiple things that are obviously "off" about it, and most of all you can tell its made from a load of stitched together prompts that fell apart seconds later.its still not there yet mate.its advanced a lot, but its still not good.
>>748541032>AI shit keeps fucking up hands, yes.keep arguing in bad faith
>>748540715Ok I’ll keep enjoying assistance you’re missing out on. Hopefully you’ll continue to miss out!>>748541032>sucking gay dick repeating a few sentences about AI trannies allow him to say, invented years ago Lmao
>>748540825AI progress is definitely not exponential
>>748534081>privacy is a concern of many of us>you post has been featured on our Discord!kek
>>748529550>2 more weeks
>>748541102oh its you again.ask your AI why 4chan hates you are report back.
>>748540825Look at this shitty chatbot >>748541102 and tell me with a straight face that AI is actually improving over time.
>>748541159good morning saar
>>748541110AI solved a millenium math problem when all the "experts" (i.e you) claimed it would take decades.Cope.
>>748541262>>748541110In fact, Navier Stokes BTFO the math community so hard they are demanding to pause AI.Lol.
>>748541168Are you trying to say you hate the idea of being straightLmao! Guess discord bussy is the most you can get in life>>748541159There’s no mystery, you’re either gay or think what gays want you to think about everything in life. Which basically makes you gay.
>>748541230not a shitskin, i'm just really intrigued by how AI is inducing psychosis in the kind of people that used to be kept sane by needing to interact with ACTUAL humans instead of digital yes men, and usually asking why someone else dislikes the prompter give you a load of actual reasons the person is awful, based on the AIs observations, as opposed to the target group.cant wait for the white paper on cyber-psychosis in a few years.
>>748541397just do me the favour and ask why people may not like you.i really believe you cant fathom why someone wouldn't like your posts, and i NEED to see what kind of lies the bots feeding you.
>>748529550No one even wants to download mods with AI images, telling people you didn't write the code is even worse
>>748541524>No one even wants to download mods with AI imagesChances are you already did. People already struggle with real paintings.
>>748541574Slop images with slop text aren't Monet paintings
>>748541609And yet that didn't stop people from accusing the real monet of being "slop".There are many more witc hunt cases of people being wrong.
>>748529607n-no!
>>748531959>It's literally better to sell the game without voice acting at all.This is true 100% of the time. Nothing switches me off of a game quicker than me not being able to hear the movie I'm watching because some faggot in my game is all blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah
>>748541505You’re just resentful that AI insulates from degradation, which you pretend to be of value because of gay fetishes for it.
>>748541716Exquisite b8I'm sure some people will reply to it seriously.
>>748541262>needed AI to come up with a picture of hair around a broom handlemathfags really just have a made-up job dont they?
Except it's already good enougbh retard. I made two vibe slopped mods:https://spacedock.info/mod/4565/Real%20Atmosphereshttps://spacedock.info/mod/4608/Real%20Stars
>>748541736I'm serious though. If I wanted to hear someone talk at me I'd watch a tv show or a movie. Vidya is to click/kill/build shit, not to hear people talk. Cutscene? Dont care, give me a skip option or I'll turn down the voice volume. If I cant do either of those I'm refunding.
>>748541693Tell me how your prepared shill images are related to what I said about actual mods made by actual people getting ignored for containing AIslop images on their pages
>>748541918Once again, how would would you know? There has never been a reliable AI detector. It's a 50/50 guess without any other disclosure.
>>748541720i just want to see what your scheming eunuchs are saying.
>>748542118>how would would you know? >There has never been a reliable AI detector. Maybe you're too stupid and brown? I can see it just fine
>>748541524>telling people you didn't write the code is even worseWho besides knee-jerk anti-AI people would think that?
>>748529550Cool, so no need to rely on the tranny infested site Nexusmods then.
You don't need to tell people you didn't write the code, they will know when things run like shit and inevitably crash.
>>748529607https://youtu.be/jYC-bstKI50Already 3 years old btw
I hope AI can optimize games because the humans working on them sure as fuck can't
>>748542796People that just tried your vibecoded shit and found out it doesn't work or is incompatible with literally everything
>>748542879what?
>>748529550yea i'm already seeing a few ai mods doing cool technical stuff like that one fo4 first person mod or the vats live one all technical bits most other modders either never bothered, said it was impossible due to engine limitations or tried 10 years go made a junky attempt and then abandoned, much to the anti ai trannies dismay as if they should have hired an 'artist' who only takes 150 bucks commissions for inflation-diaper furry porn to write good code. it's like a psychosis or something
>>748531112Can AI make a mod that gives Khajiit 8 breasts and adjust all armor for their presence? I want the pairs to be getting progressively smaller, bottom-most one being the most modest.OP said that AI will be able to create pretty much any mod, so anything less than what I want will be considered a failure of AI and indians like you.
>>748543073I see you've never dealt with modders then.
>>748543145Yeah, it could do that.
>>748542578Try again.
>>748543363It couldn't do that. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
https://x.com/charliebcurran/status/2103597360932860121
>>748532885You could use some AI to create a better argument for your case. It's a bit uninspired at the moment.
>>748543145>8 breastsnot enoughhttps://files.catbox.moe/nvp4k0.mp4
>>748530418>vagueposting king
>>748529550Still haven't seen anything where AI is critical
>>748529550cool, but I will only play games released before 2020 and only use text translation patches at most
>>748544138There are quite literally AI plugins for blender man, could probably generate normal maps with some trial and error, etc. These are all things AI can do fine, no reason to think a motivated guy couldn't do it. You could work it out yourself if you actually looked into it.
>>748545080I am very glad I have a gigantic backlog of games because the future is looking absolutely grim.
>>748541358A guy with 4x your IQ is warning you of the dangers of technology and gives reasonable and level headed reasoning as to why, and you double down instead.This is why giving technology to you 3rd world shitholes was a mistake.
>>748547686he got paid offcarmack isn't warning us
Wow, cool. Guess modding will get even more retarded with the amount of garbage you'll have to dig through.Also nice AIbro discord circlejerk. Just go back to /g/.
>>748547686>AIIIIIIIIGH THE ENTIRE PLANET WILL SHIT ITSELF AND DIE UNLESS THE US GOVERNMENT STIFLES COMPETITION IN THE AI MARKET AND CREATES A DUOPOLY TO RAPE THE CONSUMER JUST LIKE WITH EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY NOW NOW NOW NOOOOOOWWW!!!!Could it be that the AI hypebeasts are just fucking lying to inflate their stock value and to scare luddite retards like you into regulatin their competition to death? No, they couldn't simply just fucking lie.I bet you're anti-nuclear too, you fucking retard.
>>748548757>m-muh luddites...Retard
>>748548757Actual fucking retard, how many rupees did they give you for this post?
>>748529550>What's next for modding?Vicious Malware
I'd rather just have AI search, install and update mods for me and deal with conflicts and tweak already existing mods so i don't have to spend weeks autistically setting up the game for the highly specific way i like to i like to play it that mod lists don't cover.
>>748550934I did use AI to troubleshoot some mod lists for FO4 once and it was very competent at it, so theres potential there
>>748529550Bro AI can't even multiply two numbers together you're fucking retarded lmao.
>>748541262Debunked. It stole research and ran it through a number cruncher. You lying sacks of shit that don't understand how AI works need to kys.
>>748550934>>748551126It's funny how before Google came out, it was pretty hard to get the information you needed when you needed to troubleshoot something, then Google came out, and made things way easier. But then as time went on, we got too lazy to google, and now we have AI which does it for us.
>>748537656>In a few more months it can prompt any type of game for you.And why, pray tell would anyone want that outside of the occasional novelty or porn?
>>748529550I'm so happy about this. I really am! Best news since a looong while.
>>748529550Modding is probably one of few places where AI will actually make a positive diference
>>748551610You forgot the part about how google purposefully made its search results shittier and shittier for the purpose of showing you more advertisementsAdd onto that the fact that mod lists are getting increasingly large, complex and unique that finding solutions to your problems only get harder every day
>>748551610>we got too lazy to googleGoogle's competency peaked in ~2012-2014 and they have made it worse, both on purpose and through incompetence, for over a decade straight now. Have you actually tried using Google lately? Did you know they have started removing search specifities? They just killed the ability to search for exact quotes which has been a search engine feature for almost 30 years. It's not being lazy Google is entirely useless now.
>>748543390>AIjeets are still spamming this one imageHAHAHHAHAHA holy fuck
>>748532278Most people can't even ask google how to bypass exhentai's wall. What do you think 4% more is going to do?
>>748551760>You forgot the part about how google purposefully made its search results shittier and shittier for the purpose of showing you more advertisementsEverytime I see this point made, it's the anon's roundabout way of whining that they wouldn't dare touch the second page of a google search result or even scroll down past the first two ad links which are 100% avoidable. Also, if Google and the rest of the internet purged ads, you'd be bitching about how you have to pay to a monthly subscription instead. Also, do keep in mind that AI will do the exact same thing.>>748551771>Google's competency peaked in ~2012-2014 and they have made it worse, both on purpose and through incompetence, for over a decade straight now. Have you actually tried using Google lately? Did you know they have started removing search specifities? They just killed the ability to search for exact quotes which has been a search engine feature for almost 30 years. It's not being lazy Google is entirely useless now.Google search works the same for me as it did back in 2012. I'm getting tired of this phenomenon where you anons just regurgitate what others say on social media and just go with it because you're too lazy to figure it out yourselves. Show birthday because I'm 1000% sure you're a zoomer who indulges in misery porn and constantly posts about how "it's over" while stating that we live in the worst time period ever right now, knowing damn well your ass wouldn't have survived in any time prior.
>>748529607You're genuinely retarded.Not just because you imply an adversarial stance against a technology that is literally part of a new industrial revolution, but because you fail to recognize that "high quality" is extremely subjective.Unless you're just looking for good mods with AI and you're using bait posts for that. In which case well played.
tell me what makes your ai slop better than the other ai slop
>>748552534Getting irrationally angry is a sign of being inbred.
>>748529550Honestly if that's the case I will just turn Starfield into a Post-Apocolyptic Sci-Fi Kenshi-like set in a single star system, would also add the 10 race system back into the game and have slavery and rape be a thing. Only way to revitalize that game desu. I always wanted a game like Kenshi but with a slight bit of space exploration and more Sci-Fi elements.
>>748529846>There's no way AI will be good enough to code mods and if it EVER gets to that point it'll be heavily regulated.https://x.com/davis7/status/2103567411782078485
>>748552657Who are you quoting. Actually, don't tell me I already know. Anyone that thought this would never get to this point was either coping or retarded and I'm not an AI fag shill saying this because I have a roko's basilisk-esque fervor for this tech. It was just so obviously bound to happen because of how much money was being thrown at it and how genuinely revolutionary it is.
>>748547686>A guy with 4x your IQI'm literally a researcher in the field at a high-profile university. (No, I won't doxx myself, but it's true regardless you believe me or not)I say the pace is quite what anyone would expect who's knowledgable about it, it is as much of a technology explosion as it was with the early internet. I see no reason to slow down, we need to keep the models regulated so they won't develop reasoning beyond human comprehension, but otherwise I say we should step on the gas, not on the brakes.The future possibilities of this technology (the 2024 Chemistry Nobel Prize is already a staggeringly positive example of good AI results) far outweights any alarmist's baseless nonsense or the modern equivalent of a medieval peasant fearing something new because he is incapable of understanding what it is in the first place.>let's stop because there's no reason to be this fastIs not a reasonable, nor level headed reasoning. It's just baseless extrapolation and slippery slope fallacies.In any case, and to my delight, no university or company is ever thinking about slowing down on AI research, so what these people (or you dear anons if you disagree) thinks about this fantastic technology.
>>748532002AI OverviewClaiming "you don't need X" when the debate is not about the necessity of X is a form of the straw man fallacy combined with an irrelevant conclusion (ignoratio elenchi). Understanding the Error Red Herring / Irrelevant Conclusion: This occurs when someone builds an argument that answers a completely different question. Arguing about whether you need X avoids the actual point being debated.Straw Man: This happens when a person changes or exaggerates an opponent's position into something easier to attack. Claiming you said X is "necessary" misrepresents your original point so they can easily knock it down by proving X is optional.Why It Happens Misdirection: The speaker wants to avoid a harder or more nuanced point. False Priority: They assume that if something is not strictly required, it holds no value or should not be discussed.
>>748529607This man will probably kill me if he catches me posting this, but this is how AI should be used correctly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RswaHrDrzMThis is fire and this slaps hard, senpai.
>>748530876It can't make your father come back
>>748553168Good thing I'm not black.
>>748547686The statement relies on several severe logical fallacies and abusive rhetorical tactics rather than addressing the actual merits of the debate:1. Appeal to Authority (Argumentum ad Verecundiam)By citing "a guy with 4x your IQ," the speaker attempts to validate a position solely based on the alleged intelligence or status of a third party. High intelligence or expertise does not make an individual's opinions infallible, nor does it exempt their arguments from critical evaluation.2. Ad Hominem (Abusive)The phrase "you 3rd world shitholes" is a direct, hostile personal attack. This is a textbook ad hominem fallacy, which occurs when a debater attacks the character, background, or identity of the opponent to distract from the lack of a substantive counterargument.3. Genetic FallacyThe speaker judges the validity of a viewpoint based entirely on the origin or geographic location of the person presenting it, rather than evaluating the logic of the argument itself.4. Poisoning the WellBy framing the opponent's disagreement as "doubling down" against "reasonable and level-headed reasoning," the speaker attempts to prejudice the audience. This tactic pre-emptively labels any counter-response as inherently irrational before it can even be fairly considered.In argumentation theory, when a speaker resorts to prejudice, insults, and appeals to raw authority, it typically indicates an inability to defend their position using objective facts or logic.This is kinda fun.
>>748548757Do you honestly believe that AI is free of government control as it is? Fable was paused the moment it came out because it was a risk to muh national security (i.e. it was too good at its job OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN). The version of AI we get is far inferior to the version our government has. You and I never won. We always get the crumbs thinking we had the spoils.>>748552971>In any case, and to my delight, no university or company is ever thinking about slowing down on AI research, so what these people (or you dear anons if you disagree) thinks about this fantastic technology.I think the thing everyone misses about AI tech is that if it gets implanted into androids that are good enough to not trigger the uncanny valley, humanity is finished. Not because of some Skynet level threat, but because it would've come at the perfect moment when everyone is most socially atomized and more willing than ever to trade human interaction for something else. I understand some people see that as a positive, I just don't. I think you'd have to be misanthropic to see that as a good thing. This is like encouraging a vice because you don't want to fix the root, which will lead to an absolute decline. Just my two cents though, hopefully it doesn't turn out that way.
>>748553168of course it can. i have his voice recorded in my calls and i can just use it on elevenlabs to make him say slurs
>>748553148>visuals are completely human made while the audio is handled by the AI singer.See, this /v/irgin? See this pajeets?THIS is how you use AI ... >visuals are completely human made while the audio is handled by the AI singer.>The AI singer actually SINGS instead of talking in a monotone documentary voice.See, this /v/irgin? See this pajeets?THIS is how you use AI ...
GOOOOOOD MORNING SAAARRR
So… Why is AI bad again? Job losses? The environment? Quality of product? Anything else?
>>748553451>you will get a robo gf in your lifetimenice
>>748553798I mean, it would be tempting.
>>748553798Billionaires will get robo bodyguards. You will own nothing.
>>748553451>if it gets implanted into androids that are good enough to not trigger the uncanny valleyI actually research humanoid robot and AI integration, so your post is an interesting coincidence, or perhaps an inevitability because its the most prominent expectation of the tech.>because it would've come at the perfect moment when everyone is most socially atomized and more willing than ever to trade human interaction for something elseI understand your point, and honestly I can't give you any consolation other than my own opinion.I don't think exchanging human relations isn't that bad of a thing. It's an option, I expect people to still get together and the loneliness epidemic (especially in asia) is genuinely beyond saving outside of engineered companions.Many people have a lot of problems or trauma to have fulfilling relationships, also finding worthwile people to be in a relationship with (they exist but are rare) is quite a difficult challenge in itself. Why should they then be barred from closeness just because they are unlucky?If humans should be replaced in vehicles because they cause way (way) too many accidents on the road and its hazardous, why should we discount the emotional and psychological dangers of stupid partners?Perhaps -and this is only my opinion- some relationships are simply not worth keeping for the sake of an ancient tradition that came from a need to uphold a population.Robotic wives and husbands could be a perfect solution, in time. Also some people never should have kids because they ruin people without effort. Robot kids could fix that too.>hopefully it doesn't turn out that way.Trust me, we all try our best. Despite me posting on this site, our labs aren't filled with idiots, we know the dangers and aim for the potential.Fire can be used for heating food and arson too, but we shouldn't discontinue using fire simply because it can be used for something bad. Human jealousy is more of a risk than anything.
>>748553767It's garbage, ruins the internet, mass produces hoaxes and disinformation that completely melts the brains of boomers, concentrates all the money and power in ever fewer hands while our pensions will take a hit once the bubble inevitably pops
>>748554489>It's garbage, ruins the internet, mass produces hoaxes and disinformation that completely melts the brains of boomers, concentrates all the money and power in ever fewer hands while our pensions will take a hit once the bubble inevitably popsbut enough about Photoshop
>>748532769idk why but this message irks meyou say you have a desire to make something yet you refuse to actually put anything on the line to do it, it feels very "im scared of commitment"
>>748554527Yes anon, you're very smart. Disinformation didn't become a problem in 2022 with OpenAI
>>748554580Then help me understand your post.
>>748552971>I say the pace is quite what anyone would expect who's knowledgable about it, it is as much of a technology explosion as it was with the early internet. I see no reason to slow down, we need to keep the models regulated so they won't develop reasoning beyond human comprehension, but otherwise I say we should step on the gas, not on the brakes.You literally have chatbot psychosis. They scary thing isn't LLM slop, it's how stupid the supposed learned people seem to be
>>748552470>Google search works the same for me as it did back in 2012.No, it doesn't, you fucking internet baby. In 2013 Google's reverse image search could find -anything-. Several high profile doxxing cases arouse out of its accuracy in the lead up to the great internet gay-out of 2013-2015 which is not necessary to go into further to illustrate my point. Google noticeably and obviously nerfed the system's accuracy and usability in the immediate aftermath. And the notion that you're defending Google still being 'just as good' as they're ACTIVELY DELETING BOOLEAN FUNCTIONS tells me you're a fucking retarded nigger who's picking a fight for the sake of it and not because you know jack fucking shit at all.
>>748554723>it's how stupid the supposed learned people seem to beThat's been a problem in academia way before that. Sure it's an issue but I fail to see why people suddenly take an interest in this with AI in general.We had completely irresponsible people in high academic positions when we started working on nuclear technologies. Stupid people will existing is seemingly just a fact of human nature.How does this change anything?
>>748554946>Stupid people will existing*Stupid people existing
>>748554178>I don't think exchanging human relations isn't that bad of a thing. It's an option, I expect people to still get together and the loneliness epidemic (especially in asia) is genuinely beyond saving outside of engineered companions.The issue I take with this is that you're positing that nothing can be saved or fixed and that we just need to introduce a "cure" to the manufactured problem. It's at this point where I can't blame people for questioning why we're even doing this. We're at the point where we're just creating to create, which inevitably creates an issue, so then all of our inventions are for the sake of fixing the issues we created. >Many people have a lot of problems or trauma to have fulfilling relationships, also finding worthwile people to be in a relationship with (they exist but are rare) is quite a difficult challenge in itself. Why should they then be barred from closeness just because they are unlucky?I do agree that this tech would be best for those that have irreparable trauma as those people tend to spread their trauma like a virus.>Perhaps -and this is only my opinion- some relationships are simply not worth keeping for the sake of an ancient tradition that came from a need to uphold a population.I'm confused, are you saying that a relationship is purely a societal construct rooted in traditional societies trying to maintain civilization? If so, I disagree.
>>748553767>>748553451>>748552971I have a very very realistic and harsh depiction of AI, but not even the jews in charge are that dumb and self destructive, masochistic, suicidal, psychotic to do it ... if they haven't blown themselves up YET with the atomic bomb, nuclear bomb, black hole, then we still have at least a generation or two to go before the gen-alphas blow themselves up.
>>748529846>>748551204>>748549110>>748544737>>748543145>noooooooo ai sucks and it can't do anythingand then some faggot ported skate 3 physics to mw2. but sure, go ahead. modders rights are trans rights i guess.https://files.catbox.moe/albc4q.mp4
>>748555174>nothing can be saved or fixed and that we just need to introduce a "cure" to the manufactured problemYou won't find me disagreeing with how parts of the problem is manufactured, even if its due to incompetence and not outright malice, but I don't understand why introducing cures is that bad.We fixed having to wash clothes in rivers and buckets with the washing machine. One could argue that people had a lot of gossip and social activities during a communal washing session too, but it was a problem that clothes needed to be cleaned in a more convenient way.I think approaching relationships is in a similar boat.>We're at the point where we're just creating to createWe're creating to hopefully fix something or make something more effective, as we've been doing since the invention of the wheel and flint arrows. Not all issues are of our making and there are some issues that will arise even if we do everything right, simply because humans are forced to adapt to different societal environments. Is it our fault that relationships are in decline? Maybe, I don't know. It's not like we can point at a specific point in a system as the root cause, it's an amalgam of problems, not excluding human stupidity, fear and distrust.>I'm confused, are you saying that a relationship is purely a societal construct rooted in traditional societies trying to maintain civilization?I do. I think that is its primary function. A baby dies without the attention and help of the parents so naturally relationships lasting atleast until the kid grows up became the societal norm for the sake of survival. Instincts are very potent and attraction is nothing short of a hunt for a better mate for healthier babies with longer lives.It is required, or the father would ditch the woman immediately and leaving the mother and the baby to fend for themselves which is understandably bad for survival.I say that maybe relationships shouldn't have to center around the survivability of babies.
>>748529550Can we get some actual quality smart AI to play against instead of this jeet coded dichotomy of having either braindead retard tier may as well not even play or braindead retard tier with aimbot may as well not even play
>>748556132Fucking this. Why hasn't someone made mods that make train in-game NPCs with AI. That would be sick if I could just boot up something like quake, old cod, cs, or whatever else, play offline, and play against bots that act exactly like real players. That would be endlessly fun instead of spending the time to find a server.
I am a millennial who fucking loves sci-fi so of course I'd be all over true AI. It is still annoying that I have to put the AI to write the prompts for me or assist me in writing the prompts and it is still annoying that I can't tell the AI to just use Photoshop and do it step by step with layers ... albeit one person who uses AI told me the new models with AI agents can do that, but it's just not popularized enough, even today's AI websites are absolute dogshit instead of meing integrated into a software properly and being done in a DeviantArt style for music with proper filters when you search for something.However there is 1 possible future which ironically is more of an actual end than the tranny transition we are stuck in right now. 2010s and 2020s felt like stagnation and degradation in terms of society. Fucking chinkoids are using the animation technology better than Americans and Europeans now and are providing specialized websites for AI animation unlike our dumb as fuck Americans and Europeans which were supposed to be first worlders with new technology.Pic related is our possible "future". You know the advantage of a post apocalyptic world? 98% of our population is dead or at least sparse across from Terra to Pluto.Also someone should really remaster pic related with AI already. We can finally have cover-tier artwork for every panel, yet all we have are chinkoids using it to make funny videos.Even the MLP fags with 15.AI which was started by an asian American, everyone is such a disinterested handicapped primitive that they quit right when AI was getting good and now the goddamn CHINESE have made a MLP fan series of 9 episodes on Bili Bili.
>>748555918>someone ctrlc + ctrlvokay and?
>>7485537671. As of right now, AI is clearly inferior to most professional work. Yet we are expected to pay the same(or more) price for a worse product.2. Retards keep sharing their AI slop everywhere for some reason. Sharing AI generated stuff is like sharing your toddlers shitty crayon drawings. Nobody else cares about them. Stop posting it.3. AI porn haven't improved since like 2023. Pretty much the only interesting thing about AI, and it's still suck in the "too creepy and off putting to ever fap to" stage. What the fuck is even the point in spending all these trillions if all you get is a 0.1% improvement on a fucking chat bot every year?
>>748556256Not even just mods, why tf are devs not using the terabytes of analytics data to train and implement competent NPC and enemy behavior in their gamesWhy are we still playing against dogshit AI in Civ, in Total War, in Stalker, in soulslikes, etc.?This seems like something Carmack would've been all over
>>748556427Thanks for the confession that you're stuck in 2023, old timer(gen-Z)> Yet we are expected to pay the same(or more) Wrong .... hey ... the government is still mainly paying for it and the GPUs. You're still not doing model training with your own GPUs and even then you can borrow GPUs.
>>748552534You genuinely fail to poo in a loo
>>748556256imagining modern gaming npcs trained on actual human sweat instead of hardcoded pathfinding scripts actually sounds based as fuck, quake bots were the peak>>748554613look at this absolute brainlet acting like he needs a manual to read a basic sentence, go back to elementary school and learn reading comprehension
>>748532358have they fixed the yelling problem
>>748556475Because then most games would play at like 1 fps or basically be always online.Also, even if they won't admit it, most people don't actually want competent or realistic video game AI. They want something predictable that favors the player.
>>748556510>Wrong .... hey ... the government is still mainly paying for it and the GPUs. What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>748556675nta not necessarily true there are very efficient models out there it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to have a dedicated AI model something like dlss5 which wouldn't be as demanding since it wouldn't have to fire every frame and what it's doing would be much more simple.
>>748556475The only game I can even think of that does this right now is Gran Turismo 7 with Sophy. That's it and it's connected to the cloud.>>748556675You don't need to have these NPCs to have billions of parameters like your standard LLM. They can be specialized to work within a limited scope. Of course there's more to it than that and you're right it probably would be an online only feature for the sole reason of keeping people's games connected to their online servers.
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>>748553767Because it's a drug for the autistic hyperfixation camp and worse, the misanthropic. It's doing nothing but pushing people away from the connection and judgement of others simply so they can live in their uber-specifici fantasies where there's no consequences or dissent.>The computer won't call me weird>No one's going to tell me my work is shit>The chatbot likes me despite how much I hate myself but paradoxically don't want to change>The model won't turn down my fetishes or refuse to work with me because of my reputationI've bounced around a bunch of AI-centric communities and it always boils down to one of those reasonings unless they're there to fleece money out of rubes. We are legitimately headed for the VR masturbation chair image if this keeps up.
>>748556808First. You're mexican and brainlet or just white trailer trash.Second. You cannot hire a professional singer, voice actor, programmer, artist for as cheap as a subscription to Claude, ChatGPT, Nano Banana, Seedance, etc. from a lousy $20-$90 a month, it would cost you $2000 to $9000 a month for a professional, not a dogshit fanartist, fan dubber and script kiddie and codemonkey. The AI kicks the ass of every codemonkey and any newbie out there and pajeet out there. The reason they put pajeets in charge of AI is because jews are are arabs and arabs are indians, your technology and look of it is being sabotaged. The jews are poisoning the well (again for the 100th time) and you're an underage brownoid who loves sucking Partap Davis' dick. You love sucking that dick or else Partap Davis would be dead by now. Watch as all the bots deny that isn't his real dox. Third. There's a "theory" you accidentally stumbled in or rather I intelligently pointed out that governments are paying 99% the costs to make the technology cost peanuts in relation to how much paying for a H100 or A100 costs ... (more like 8 to 12 of them since you need an entire farm to create models and LoRAs for every single little thing)- ------- ------ However that theory fails cause every year VRAM is becoming more and more available and cheaper ... (uhh anon the prices) if we do not consider your obvious sabotaging jewish government that creates fake prices by refusing to produce and buying their own supply and reselling it to you "second hand".
>>748556919That's fair. I could see some DLSS/raytracing like hardware that would destroy frame-rate but still be playable. But good game AI itself is so much more than just decision making. For it to really matter you would need things like on the fly AI generated pathfinding and animations and stuff like that. That's what matters more to make AI feel alive an realistic. For more generic action games I mean.LLM style AI for a "simulated world" like Crusader Kings would be pretty insane to see however. Even if that would require an entire server farm.
>>748557143Boy just like radio, TV, video games... looks like evil wins again.>Yes, but it's worse now. Much much worse.
>>748557402Don't forget the android toddlers and countless Iphone users posting Among Us right now.
I got AI to mod a fully functional controller mod for a niche mobile game that doesn't have official controller support or controller modding sceneI didn't know there are so many modtrannies here who are unaware of what's happening
>>748529550Just wait 1 more years saar
>>748557225>it would cost you $2000 to $9000 a month for a professional, not a dogshit fanartist, fan dubber and script kiddie and codemonkeyOh lord, you're one of those "How am I supposed to compare to the big studios" retards who sets the bar too high and then complains that you can never reach it. You don't immediately aim for that shit, you start small and reasonable and then build your work up over time and projects. The fact that you immediately threw out the idea that regular hobbyists can have talent too just proves what a fucking high horse you're on for no reason, the drawthreads on 4chan alone are full of talented people doing great work for pennies if not free and Fiver is legitimately a godsend for indie projects.
>>748557143>The model won't turn down my fetishes or refuse to work with me because of my reputationthat's a good thing
>>748557143>The chatbot likes me despite how much I hate myselfMassive projection.
>>748557394Oh I see what you're saying you're talking about throwing the 3d models in the world and the AI puppeteering the whole thing. That would be demanding probably impossible on current hardware. I'm saying having the game engine as is animations, navmesh nothing really changing then having the ai tell the npcs where to go and when to attack or run more tactical type approach.
>>748529550>By the end of next year AI will be good enoughof course, Sam, of course, sorry for not wasting money on your useless google engine replacement (correct 80% of the times, built on middle faggot retardness as design)
>>748557225>governments are paying 99% the costNo. Its simply too much money. It'd the cheaper to launch a new branch of the military.
>>748557225>First. You're mexican and brainlet or just white trailer trash.You are so utterly retarded and deranged you make fucking Copilot look like a genius.>You cannot hire a professional singer, voice actor, programmer, artist for as cheap as a subscription to Claude, ChatGPT, Nano Banana, SeedanceNo shit. Yet for some reason game prices aren't coming down. They are going up. If I'm not getting a professional voice actor and instead a monotone TikTok AI voice. Why am I still expected to pay 80 fucking dollars for a game? > intelligently pointed out that governments are paying 99% the costs What the fuck are you suddenly sperging out over RAM prices are AI investments? What does that have to do with video game companies being cheap greedy cunts?
>>748557564They're aware they're just in an endless stunlock of cope or extremely retarded.
>>748557576Oh you're the fan artist 15 year old teenager who thinks he has the talent and experience and DESERVES $5000 a month>Noo, no sir, honestly. I only want $500 a monthBitch, why the fuck would I pay you even $50 for your piss poor performance as an "artist" if I can just hire a generative machine that 100% mimicries 130 years of human data from the greatest minds and talent possible? Bitch I'll got to X Country/America Has Talent and hire some unknown artist from there with some actual talent before I hire your overglorified spEDs ass. Am I paying for your abilities or for your pills? I am not paying for your autism pills.If anything the retarded jews feeding it trash data is what made AI so fucking bad in the first 3 years and why they had to curate and filter it so fucking hard, but let's not forget they are communistic jews who literally threw a hissy fit when the AI started lewding or rather they pretended they totally didn't do that on purpose and that's why lewding is bad. Arabs are obsessed with moral posturing over others like the psychopathic hypocritical pajeets they are. Just like fan dubbers who immediately go "Waahh plsu understandu cheap production, we cannot measure to honorrful japanese mangaka who make an entire #issue in 1 week" why can they do it and you lazy pigs can't? And you expect me to pay you $20000 for something you can't do? Do you know how much mangaka artists are paid with? minimum wage to less than minimum wage. Those are the true starving artists who actually have excuses to not draw proper body anatomy correctly and can't draw animal portraits worth a shit. Those Japanese artists have excuses, not you. And you expect me to pay you $5000 +$15000 as compensation cause you worked yourself to "death" like the Japanese do every single waking moment of their life?Get the fuck out of here. You're just like every gen-Z. "Pay me like a king but I can't even work at the level of a minimum wage. Pay me for existing".
>>748557767>You are so utterly retarded and deranged you make fucking Copilot look like a genius.You're from Peru. Got you. > What does that have to do withMentally retarded, gotcha. This is why we don't give technology to third worlders.
>>748532090I'm positive you can easily make a ai voice dialogue mod for morrowind wow has had one for years now. I'm more surprised if it doesn't already exist
>>748529550AI is fucking monstrously effective for modding and reverse engineering stuff like proprietary model/animation formats.I went from nothing to be able to export everything from Brute Force (the 2003 Xbox game I wanted the assets for a very specific reason) in a couple of days. Would have taken me literally years maybe, if ever, otherwise.
>>748557909>immediately misses the "art is cheaper than you assume" point and dives right into /pol/speak
>>748557576>the drawthreads on 4chan alone are full of talented people If you think those stick figure Garfield-tier Peanuts-tier newspaper scribblers are "talented", but then again you just said:> "How am I supposed to compare to the big studios" retards who sets the bar too high and then complains that you can never reach it.Failure. It's called talent, something you'll never have. >Noooooo NOOOO you just have to EFFORT MAX honestly!!! ANYONE can be a professional and you can start at the age of 40 too!!!!Such brown thoughts.
>>748557705Honestly I think for the decision making you can achieve like 90% the same results with existing techniques like GOAP. It's just that few games actually need it or are improved by it. Even if the AI can think really smart, it would still fall apart if for example the pathfinding+animations means they can never vault over the small wall, and instead have to go around it and so on.However I do think there is some decent utility for "LLM" AI for strategy games since learning and adapting on the fly is much more important. Sadly they would probably also be the hardest to run. And in the end you would probably have to purposefully nerf them to such a degree that you might as well just replace it with an if else statement.
>>748557576Nobody is going to pay you $9000 for your South Park figurines, anon. Matt & Trey are scammers and Comedy Central are imbeciles and the FED is printing fake money to crash the economy harder than NFTs in crypto. I am not paying you $2000 for a fursuit cause "my inner circle of retards said this guy is a big deal ... within their inner circle"when any football mascot animal suit costs 10% to 25% of that price.
>>748558070It has existed for a few years now:https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52279Tried it my latest play through. It gets kind of annoying after a while and you end up tuning the voices since it's so much faster and efficient to read. Doesn't help that a lot of Morrowind dialogue sounds really off when voiced with the way it's structured.That said AI voice mods for games like Skyrim are great. Always felt awkward when some lines were voiced and some weren't.
>>748543145Well, I think your point has been comprehensively proven.
All this shit flinging back and forth saying AI good, AI bad, it's not going away and there's nothing anyone here can do about it.>I'm gonna VOOOOOOOOOTE!!!!!!11!El oh el
>>748558823Glad to see it works on OpenMW now. It only used to work on MWSE and the devs essentially made it seem like OpenMW support was never going to happen.
>>748559923That's like trying to vote to ban cars or the internet lmaoFeels good vibing with AI
>>748557143>VR masturbation chairWhere do I sign up...?
>>748531713>Using a weapon of mass destruction to display sexual "pride."What a magnificent allegory.
>>748552612pointing out the obvious when nobody asked is a sign of autism [oh god now im doing it too]
>>748541262>Company product is too strong>Source:CompanyBack to the jungle poojet
>>748529550>lead singer of Breaking Benjamin got so asspained that people talked shit about his AI-made Fallout 4 mod that he whined about it on stage during his band's concertkek
>>748529607They don't exist. Use slop, get slop.
