>linux gamers when you ask them to run any game without Steam
>>748567841>imagine being shit at videogames
>>748567841
>>748567841i use chatgpt to help me with linux gaming lol. It actually works most of the time.
>>748568059fuck off
>>748568059Why wouldn't it? 99% of problems with Gaming on Linux are PEBCAK.And since you usually aren't the first person to run into a given Gaming on Linux problem, there's already plenty of threads & posts for it to crawl for the solution.
>>748567841Just click install in lutris or bottles or heroiclauncher. Most of the time you can just run it with plain old wine too.
>>748567949>dude just waste a whole day configuring shit!No.
>>748568604That's straight up bullshit lol
>>748567841>linux users when you ask them to find their penis
>>748567841Freeciv and a few other games don't need Steam.
>>748568550I ran into the infinite save icon glitch in Control and Google was absolutely useless, but the info was apparently out there because Gemini helped me fix it in like five minutes.
bro, your bottles?
>>748567841steam makes everything justwerk so there's usually very little reason to want to do it another way.But all the tech involved is open source so if I really want to set up Proton etc by myself then there's nothing stopping me.>>748568059Not a bad idea but better off using an agent like codex/claudecode, so it can actually do it instead of just telling you what to do.
Apparently Linux gaming is great if you have a thinkpad or a computer with intel GPU, rest it's pretty dogshit.I tested out Linux on a 2017 laptop from hp and it was a nightmare to get the dual GPU's to be recognized and used.
>>748567841>I've never touched Linux but allow me pretend to be an expertlol.The big advantage to Steam is the stability of running Proton in a Steam Linux Runtime container, and there's Umu for doing basically the same thing in other game launchers now. People run games from GOG and even EGS using the Heroic client all the time. Not that Steam Linux Runtime is even necessary. I also run GOG games straight from their offline installers, itch.io games, and even old Humble Bundle games without any container, both natively and using Wine.Not that I think you should use Linux, but basically you're dumb and wrong, especially dumb.
>>748568673Why?
>>748567841>What is Wine>What is Lutris>What is Bottles>What is Heroic Games Launcheretc etc etc
>>748568746I've had search-assist AI answer my question while explicitly citing sources that were nowhere in the actual search results (and yes I know they weren't there because there was less than a page of results for this very specific search query). I don't know why, maybe just the sheer number of useless sites that exist solely to abuse SEO and serve garbage content with ads, but Google search is basically fucked. In a few years you'll probably have to go out of your way to see links to web sites at all because the default will be just the AI answer.
>>748567841Just download steam and add your games as non-steam games. You can do that with games you bought on other platforms. I really don't see the issue; you can finally play a large swath of games on linux without much effort, and that's a bad thing?
>>748567841???they work fine, the only steam dependency is their runtimes which umu simply replacesthe issue is that literally no one outside valve has done a SINGLE FUCKING THING to support linux and yet it still works almost perfectly
>>748568059same, worked like a charm
>heroic>faugaus>proton launcherjust three of many options
>>748567841sudo chmod +x game.fagsudo ./game.fag
>>748570695>running everything as root moron
>>748567841and proton
>>748570751Blow me
>>748570695you don't need sudo for that
>>748567841>running games from steam is bad now because goalpost should be movingit is pretty easy to run everything without a steam, but funny how things are changing to stay the same
>>748570695why use sudo here? are all your files owned by root?
>>748568262>"I wish Steam had competition" mfs when all the potential competitors are actual garbage and suck total assftfyGOG is okay but their launcher doesn't support Linux, and it doesn't even matter anymore if they release a Linux version because they already missed the bus; everyone uses Heroic and will probably ignore an official Galaxy client for Linux if they ever make one
ok i run it through faugus, heroric, lutris, or bottles, now what
>>748567841I just add the game to steam as a non-steam game. It just works.
>>748571912gog is irrelevant and will die off soon, they got sold off for penniesthey were talking about linux support 10 years ago and now that valve and the community solved literally everything they still haven't done anything
>>748567841>Steam makes Linux gaming retard-proof>if you dislike Steam, you can use Proton without it, it just takes a bit more effort (literally just install an another launcher)What’s the issue here?
>>748575959the issue is that retards see how dominant valve is in the linux gaming sphere and are too retarded to realise that no one else is helping so they think nothing outside of them works
>>748567841>SO you say gaming on Linux is possible and convenient, but what if you DIDN'T use the most convenient option?>WELL WELL WELL not so convenient now, is it?What a stupid fucking post.
>>748568673Which part of it is bullshit? I run 99% of my pirated games (that aren't RPG maker) in system wine by double clicking the exe.
>>748576802Well that contradicts the narrative so that means it's bullshit.
How would you do it on windows?There are almost no stand alone games without a store and steams the only relevant store
>>748571912>GOG is okay but their launcher doesn't support LinuxTrivial since it's integrated in both lutris and heroic. Frankly I prefer GOG not having a dedicated launcher.
>>748568059
>>748568727>plocate penisCheckmate liberals!
>>748568727>>748578882WHO TOOK MY PENIS!?
>>748578857OOOH MY GOD, HE ASKED THE ORACLE AND GOT AN INSTANT STEP-BY-STEP ANSWER INSTEAD OF DIGGING THROUGH ANCIENT PILES OF PARCHMENTS AND FIGHTING THROUGH TO GET A PARTIAL ANSWER, OR BEFRIENDING INSANE TRANSVESTITES ON YE QUESTIONABLE DARK ALLEY GATHERINGSSOMEONE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, MAKES HIS ACTIONS ILLEGAL!
>>748578857>directional transsexu...>tranny on picYou should be ashamed to post that as your references.
>>748567841I just use heroic for non steam games
>>748569918This doesn't work for games made before 2010.
>>748579420>This doesn't work for games made before 2010.Name one game and I'll prove that it does.
I havent used windows in 18 years
>>748579420this works especially for games before 2010, literally the only games that this doesn't work for are japanese specific rpgmaker games, and thats only because you need to setup locales. which you also have to do on windows anyways
>>748567841>runs it through Wine or Protonthat was easy
>>748579498Zoo tycoon
>>748579506Dangerously based. What is your goto distro today?
>>748579295>implying AI shit eaters don't ask Chat GPT for help with the most mundane, every day kind of shit you would expect any functional human to know
>>748567841>his distro does not package wine-protonsorry, you are not a gentoo user
>>748579358they don't use the word transsexual
>>748579697So? They should indeed ask Chat GPT instead of remaining ignorant, or wasting another human being's time.Do you like getting asked stupid shit? Is that the issue?
>>748579610Getting it.
>>748579782Saw your post, so I went to investigate, because DUH the info on the person is on the picture. And surprise surprise, it is indeed a trannyBro, just kill yourself. For real
>>748579786>we need to waste electricity so a jeet can ask how to get bobs n vagene
>>748579786But they do remain ignorant.I see this -literally- every day as a teacher, the people who won't stop fucking using AI are the dumbest fucking people I have ever met. Zero retention, zero problem solving skills.
Unironically how do you get in to linux, I barely know how the files on my computet works
>>748568621>whole dayJust kys now.
>>748567841I use gog? Hell the native versions of gog run better than the native versions of steam.If I want to run some micrslop horseshit I just use heroic, it makes everything easy.
>>748579943Strange how this has started being an issue only when LLMs were first introduced, as if previously internet was working with thoughts and prayers.
Notice how people always claim how great linux is yet in all these threads linux isn't doing any of these great things and the only thing that gets posted is a picture of the desktop. Very curious.
>>748579801Soon.Tm
>>748580000wasted.Anyway, you just choose a working stable distro like Mint or Fedora and then just use LLMs to go by, so you don't have to interact with pretentious linuxfags on the internet to get the answers you need.
>>748580146because the good things it does are in the background you dimwit
>>748580146It, quite literally, does whatever the fuck you want it to without asking questions or wasting performance on bloatware shit running inbthe background you never asked for. Not my fault you're too terminally braindead to even begin to understand how to utilize that kind of power.
>>748580135I know right?It's not like the amount of resources required for AI shit to work is exponentially higher than just using forums or search engines.Tech companies were building Data Centers left and right all the time, am I right?
>>748579960Those people are ignorant by nature, they will remain stupid forever, regardless of any attempt to educate them. BUT, they could be dumb with AI helping them, or dumb by doing stupid mistakes and asking for help all the time. For these retards, AI works like a mental wheel chair. I see no issue with that.>>748579943No "we", it is not my electricity, and I'm not american either so my electricity doesn't come from coal burning.And you think the internet is hosted on what, cookies? Only now you see a problem with servers, not before?
>>748580385>just using forums or search enginesI'm fairly sure that getting an asnwer tailored to your needs outweights any power usage you'll have caused by sifting through forums looking for answers.In any case, modern LLMs are using less power for tokens than older ones. Anthropic even lowered prices (I know because we use it at work).But let's pretend everything is going to stay exactly the same without optimization whatsoever, so you'll have a point in this conversation.
Why would I get linux, when I can install a pirated version of windows, then delete all the spyware from the disk including log creation and windows update using Ameliorated?I have the best of both worlds here, compatibility AND reliability.>b-b-but muh security!I don't care? Wow, people will invade my computer and see my folder of anime girl reactions, the horrors...
>>748580395>And you think the internet is hosted on what, cookies? Only now you see a problem with servers, not before?There weren't that many before you stupid fucking faggot, of course people are going to complain when they ARE directly affected by the construction of more Data Centers.I refuse to believe you are genuinely this fucking stupid and I also refuse to feed you more attention, go talk to your family or something you obnoxious faggot.
>>748567841Why do you need to open steam everytime you want to play a game?
>>748579610Works no problem.https://files.catbox.moe/3usagq.webm
>>748580562AI is too useful for nearly every single field of work ever, no exceptions. No wonder it gets so popular.Anon, there's nowhere for you to hide, refusing to use AI like a zealot will only make you stand behind everyone else. You can be the best at digging the soil manually, you will never be able to beat any room IQ retard that knows how to use an excavator.>>748580594Steam skips all the hassles of installing a game on linux, it is just click and play. Now try to do that manually, it was HELL. You had to go through forums, ask stuff, sometimes compile shit yourselfOf course, most of that hassle went away with AI
>>748580562>There weren't that many beforeYou don't even know what are you talking about"There weren't that many before" nigga? Really?Data Centers are NOT traditional servers you spastic idiot. Those buildings host computers with GPUs and high speed RAM to get LLMs to work and to train new models.That's why they need so much cooling. Normal servers do NOT use GPUs to feed you sites.
So if linux will do whatever you want it to it can run Wardogs without issue?
>>748580559Some people also use Linux just because the Windows desktop experience annoyed them and they decided Linux is a better fit for what they want from their computers.>b-b-but muh straw man!I don't care?
>>748580745Now do it with both expansions
>>748580830>You had to go through forums, ask stuff, sometimes compile shit yourselfWhat I absolutely hated the most was step-by-step guides with terminal commands that did NOT explain you what they were actually used for
>>748567841this is actually true and kind of funny>just install bottles bro>just make sure not to accidentally install the wrong plugin bro By the time I'm doing installing the game I just want to go to bed and forget the whole affair.
>>748580958Unc I'm not your desk-monkey. This was the first time I've mounted an ISO in linux and it was as simple as googling "how do I install zoo tycoon on linux through an ISO". Literally just do the same thing but google "how do I install the zoo tycoon expansions on linux via an iso?"
>>748580559>Why would I get linux, when I can install a pirated version of windows, then delete all the spyware from the disk including log creation and windows update using Ameliorated?>I have the best of both worlds here, compatibility AND reliability.Windows has little to no customisations. In linux I made a bash script that changes my wallpaper every minute, and I can choose to make it something seasonal, thematic like halloween and have it started doing that the moment it hits october 1st 00:00:00 time, windowsfags can't even do that since windows 7 without installing some third party software that can brick your system.
>>748581123try to install Nocturne (1999) and get it running at 60 fps without the retarded cloth physics going bananas if you're so great
My workflow is usually>Add game to steamDoesn't work?>Use a Lutris pre-made scriptDoesn't work?>Add to Lutris manuallyDoesn't work?>Make a new WINE prefixI usually play older games so it is usually the same amount of work that I would on windows working out compatibility and wrappers.
>>748580958>Now move the goalpostsI'm not him but frankly I'd ignore you at this point. He already proved >>748579420 wrong, and if one counterexample doesn't satisfy you then you shouldn't have set the goalposts at a claim that gets annihilated by one counterexample of your own choosing.
>>748581175>get proven wrong>b-b-but try this other one game!nigger just stop.
>>748581175>NocturneIs it picrel?
>>748567841>>748568262
>>748581324Yes m'am, that's exactly it>>748581317>get proven wrongI'm not even the same anon, and you aren't impressing me if you can't do what I ask. So kiss my balls, nerd.
>>748581175PC Gaming Wiki says the cloth physics are tied to frame rate which should technically therefore be capped at 30 rather than 60.
>>748581175>just fix the game engine bruh
>>748581534YEAH OK WELL FUCKING FIX IT IF YOU'RE SO GREAT YOU STUPID COW>even at 30fps the shit goes crazyOK WELL WHAT THE FUCK NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GODDAMN
>>748581520NTA jsut barging in to let you know you're an absolute moron.As >>748581524 and >>748581534 said it's literally impossible even on Windows.Linux werking doesn't mean it's a magical OS where every game bug is automatically solved.
>>748581682>linux doesn't magically fix everythingThen why the fuck would I use it you fucking fuckershit
Try Subnautica with mouse and keyboard and not have a fucked up cursor texture that makes it way harder to see.
>>748580917It technically can run it, it's not a problem with rendering. The issue, as always, is kernel-level rapeware implemented by the devs.
>>748567841steam when you have windows 7
>>748581745Because being less raped on Linux is better than being more raped on Windows.
>you can change your cursor! Have wallpapers slide in the background! You can change the colour of your toolbar to whatever you want>windows 11: you can only use 1 wallpaper and that's it you fucking chud!why does windows offer so little customisations for the user?
>>748581857Obvious bait. Try harder.
Ironically when I tested Linux, I had a better experience with Lutris than Steam.
>>748581857The straw for me was when they locked the taskbar in W10 with an explanation of "Lol fuck you user why do even need to move it".The long and short of all these UX decisions is jeet vibecoding.
>>748581843as someone who uses both, i am not convinced
>>748581394>Wanting a video game movie to have characters from the video game it's based on means you just want a memberberry festBehead normgroids.
>haha dude linux is totally super duper awesome and brings older laptops back to life>install it on a hp pavillion shit top from 2015 that is supported by windows 11>kernel doesn't recognize the 2nd GPU even when updating driverswhy do linuxfags lie all the fucking time?
>>748581745>windows doesn't magically fix everythingThen why the fuck would I use it you fucking fuckershit
>Winjeets posting againKashmir belongs to Pakistan. Super powers don't have designated shitting streets.>A fucking WHEEL
>>748582040Name the distro anon.
>>748581946>locked the taskbar in W10fuck you mean? I can move it around the screen just fine.Maybe you're thinking of W11. You're not false-flagging now are you?
>>748582053>everything is ezpz lemon squeezy and designed with it in mind >whereas almost nothing is designed with linux in mind and requires 10x the effort to get potentially similar resultsSure is nice not getting raped by MS I tell ya h'wat
>>748582105Linux Mint, and I fixed it by installing older kernels that are still getting support, it is what it is, but it's really not that noob friendly as people claim.Maybe its also because i own HP SHIT
>>748582251>and designed with it in mind >this nigger thinks Windows uses a special set of x86_64 instructions
>>748568059>switch to linux>trying to figure shit out and troubleshoot>dig through forum posts for fixes, read articles on how to do shit, watch tutorials>still lost and some shit isn't working>look at the google AI result shit>do thing 1, then thing 2, then thing 3, all with these exact commands >fuck it why not I'll try it>works Do linuxfags just suck at explaining shit? Reminds me a lot of learning how to draw and all the artists couldn't explain wtf they were doing and would just ramble about non-sense in tutorials.
>>748582356>Maybe its also because i own HP SHITBetween their computers and their printers, I have no clue how or why they are still in business.
>>748567841I just use Lutris
>>748582356HP is very possibly part of the problem. They're the Apple of Windows laptops. I only had neutral-to-bad experiences with HP laptops.
>>748582225You're right, I somehow memoryholed that "feature" into w10 for some reason.
>>748582372>being deliberately obtuse Sasuga, linux-kun
>>748582382For artists, sometimes it really is hard to describe "why" something is done. There is a reason why they say "do the fundamentals" because most of them have done it so much that they can skip steps.
>>748582382>Do linuxfags just suck at explaining shit?A bit yes, but it's also that for each problem you can have on a distro the problem can have 10 different solutions. Extrapolate that over 20+ different distros and the problem becomes convoluted to the extreme.
>>748582382in general it's hard to explain things when you're so far beyond the beginner mindset that you can no longer recognize what the fuck it is that they are having a hard time understanding. >t. has tried to teach my boomer mom how to use a desktop for years only to realize that it's fruitless until she spends as much time daily using one as i have
>>748582382I think the difference is that AI is unreasonably good at giving the right answer when given enough detail whereas keyword-based search results are going to bring up lots of shit that isn't relevant to your exact use-case or system configuration. AI still fucks up sometimes, of course, but it's better at answering "how to fix [error] in [program] on [operating system]" than a search query for "[problem] AND [program] AND [operating system]" that just shits out web pages containing any subset of those words.
>>748582701You're probably the most correct here along with this anon >>748582591. I think anything linux related is just fucked SEO (search engine optimization) wise and so you are never given the info you actually want. Switching to linux is the first time I see 10+ year old forum posts show up as the top result for a problem.
>>748582701and the best part is that it can actually explain what the commands do. There's a reason lately many people are switching to Linux and partly is because Valve put a lot of effort into it, but also because having a chatbot guiding you instead of having to waste hours through forums to set up shit is a thousand time better, and quicker.
>>748582856This. I honestly have no idea how the fuck anyone expected programming students to hack it back in the day. Progessors seemed to seriously think it was perfectly reasonable for people to spend 10 hours a day digging through oceans of worthless content to figure out how to troubleshoot something. Either that or they simply didn't care.
>>748569114That's a fake image. The moment you start arguing with Claued it becomes a passive agressive little shit.
>>748583295>even the AI recognizes when it's dealing with someone insufferable Based Claude
>just install the bottleraperlooterrootkit.exe launcher and config it no.if it doesnt come standard with my machine im not downloading your OS and learning to code just to play warthunder
>>748583651>warthunderhmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>748567841I use Linux before proton and we use playonlinux to run shit. Glorious days.
as a noob to linux, what are flatpacks from the "programs store", I heard its worse to use and to just install things by using the terminal instead, is that true? can someone explain why the fuck it is preferred?
>>748583917in windows its install steam install warthunder press play
>>748580146It's good (not great yet) for 3 reasons:1. It can run on just about anything, unlike Windows and Mac, so it's suitable for reviving old hardware2. It exists as a free alternative to the big 2, which is necessary either way, because one OS having a monopoly isn't good3. As has been stated ITT, it gives you the freedom to do pretty much anything you want with your PC, but it's finicky, requires time and effort and one wrong prompt in the terminal can throw all that effort in the toilet, only to start over again. Meanwhile Windows (and Mac, but that isn't as relevant on the gaming front) just WERKS. And this, coupled with the best software compatibility, simply makes Windows the best option for now.>>748582424You can change the taskbar alignment and size in Win11 now.
>linux>steamWow, this thread again
>>748583998/v/ is where the tech semi-literate go to get pats on the head be kind
>>748583928It's just different repos where you can get apps. Snaps are owned and maintained by canonical while flatpaks are entirely open source.Generally you will only need flatpaks, and 99.999% of all paks hosted on flathub are completely safe. Still just use common sense whenever you download something; if you do not trust the distributor just don't download the pak.
>linux user meetup
>>748568059The AI use in question?Googling.
>>748583968That's exactly what the screenshot says to do on Linux, you embarrassment.>Install Steam from the Linux Mint Software Manager, download War Thunder, and run it natively.Literally: install Steam, install War Thunder, press play.The remaining text consists of>don't do this stupid thing>make sure you didn't do that stupid thing>here's an alternative you don't need.
>>748583968>just install the bottleraperlooterrootkit.exe launcher and config it >"no actually it works like this">moves goalpostAh I see I see
>>748584486I wouldn't even say he moved the goalposts, considering they ended up being exactly where the ball went. He's just so stupid that he doesn't realize he lost.
>>748583928>>748584389I realized now that it wasn't so clear in my first post, so just to add: the software manager (program store) is connected to flathub.
>>748583917"just use Proton for everything" clowns BTFO
>>748582029Normgroids are the ones who want a memberberry fest. From the retards on /tv/
>>748583928For gui apps you will want to use the builtin software manager or download the applications directly from flathub https://flathub.org/. For any non-gui app, meaning any app you can run in the terminal you can install those via terminal commands. There is not any one preferred method for installing something, just pick the option that solves your problem easiest.
>>748585015As always it's the game's rape rootkit causing this. Technically Linux can now run all games if not for the intrusive spyware implemented by the devs.
>>748583279they memorized everything. It was expected. Still is.
faugus is great but you start to miss some of the steam features. frankly steam is kinda bad at managing proton prefixes.
>>748582491no you just don't know how computers work
>>748567841No steam? Just run it on lutris.Works 99% of the time instead of 99.999%
>>748585159>causing thisCausing what? The game just working when you don't go out of your way to run the wrong version?
>>748568262>Clicks on executableLauncher?
>>748571912NTA, I like Steam these days, but the old argument was that there shouldn't be launchers and storefronts at all, they're just a clunky form of DRM.But since other forms of DRM are typically aids Steam is just the least cancerous and most consumer-friendly launcher. In an ideal world though we wouldn't have any of the above and things would just launch off the PC like they would naturally.
>friend decided to switch to linux>every time he wants to play something I see like 7 steam pop-ups in a row of him trying to start the game like an old lawn mover
>>748583295One of the incarnations of Deepseek was even worse than this it was like talking to a 4chanigger.
