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Are there any gacha "games" with actual gameplay or are they all watered down JRPGs that are really just glorified VNs?

Why is it impossible to combine the model with fun and engaging gameplay systems?
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wtf is happening here
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I know she has a dick.
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>>748614361
You constabtly need to shill new shiny characters for your retard player base to spend on, so your hands are tied on making meaningful engaging content. You need to either constantly raise the damage ceiling with powercreep or make super restrictive requirements for comps that only your new character fulfills. Also, gachafags fundamentally don't even like gameplay. They want to sit through endless purple prose vomit with some below young adult tier storyline and then praise it as the best thing ever.
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Mihomo are the only ones who come close but those still suck so idk
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>>748614361
They're phone games first. They can't be any better than they are now
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>>748614361
beyblade
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I mean Genshin is pretty much Zelda ToTK with overcomplicated chink mechanics and four layers of monetization slapped on top.
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>>748614483
nothing surprising
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>>748615549
>not futa
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>>748615596
Stupid fucking imposter mutt.
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>>748614361
Even if a gacha game has actual gameplay (that is subjective to the player) it's completely ruined by powercreep.
In order for players to spend money, they have to create a problem then sell you the solution. Strong season 1 characters will get thrown to the wasteside.
The best example is Zenless Zone Zero. Miyabi was clear and by far the strongest character on release, so to make players actually pull for new characters the devs created content that is Miyabi-proof then sell you the character that clears with ease.

The worst cases of powercreep come from Fire Emblem Heroes with every year releasing new characters that legit do hundreds of damage, take zero damage, and now strike from any where on the map versus year 1 where the premium skills were +4 attack and speed.
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>>748614361
Because the model caters to casuals and fools who fall for psychological tricks like FOMO and chance of getting lucky.
The main target audience are (or were) commuting salarymen wanting their daily dose of dopamine on the 30min train ride. They don't have the time for more and view paying a bit to get more dopamine because their virtual girlfriend has a happier jpeg as a good deal.
Gambling games aren't complicated either for a good reason.
It can't be skill-based because that would make people develop a strategy to always win and the money is being made on those who lose.
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>>748614361
in real games you can unlock everything by just playing for long enough.
Gachafags will tell you that in their "games" it's the same except the time is measured in years and not hours or that it's completely different because you get 200 characters intead of 20 (ignore that the differences between them are very minor and super-arbitrary mostly boiling down to better stats).
Gachas rely on paywalling and shilling to convince you how you absolutely NEED the newest character (est. shelf life = 3 months) jus to rugpull you some time late, in a loop.
Your favorite was very strong on launch and you maxed her out? Sorry, newest content is specifically made to screw her over and promote your NEWEST wife. Not interested? You will be, she deals more damage than anyone else before. Look, she says she loves you and wears a swimsuit (skin sold separately), why aren't you pulling?
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>>748615549
>It isn't futa
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>>748615549
fucking RUINED
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why y'all love dick so much
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>>748616620
they yearn for that which was lost
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>>748615549
>not futa
Fucking based. Burn all futafaags
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>>748615549
You fucking faggot, what a disappointment
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>not futa
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>>748615549
>not futa
well played, well played I say
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>>748615549
>tummy licking
based
>not reacting in ticklish fashion
unfortunate
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>>748615549
>pathetic gay incels seething because a fictional 2d woman doesn't have a dick
why is v so gay now?
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>>748615549
glorious
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>>748615549
based.
gas and burn all futafags to death
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>>748614361
Battle operation 2 was a real videogame.
It was pretty fun but the botched PC release made me drop it pretty fast.
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>>748614361
>>748615549
>Tummy licking
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
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>>748614361
>Why is it impossible to combine the model with fun and engaging gameplay systems?
Because they're mobile games first and foremost, retard.
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She fucked billions of futas
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I love how xipa draws but I don't like futas.
pain
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>Blue Archive of all things for your yuriniggering
I wouldn't even be upset if Japan got hit with another tsunami/earthquake combo
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>>748618362
blue archive is korean
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>>748615549
Cocksucking fags destroyed
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>>748615549
>scar love
____Based____
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>>748615549
Hell yes. Could not have gone better. Fuck futatrannies.
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>>748615549
>saori's tummy isnt fully visible
disappointing
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>>748618362
It's almost like no one actually gaf about your larp
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jokes on you guys im also a yuritranny hehe
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>>748615549
>all those faggots and trannies in thread seething
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>>748617737
>>not reacting in ticklish fashion
you do realize she's liking a scar right?
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>>748618956
idgaf
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>>748618362
>le safe edgy racisn
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>>748614361
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>>748615549
futa cucks, dead an burried,
belly chads, flourishing
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>>748615549
Total futa death
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>>748615549
Ok but what's the drawing with the face about?
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>>748623243
its (you) (female)
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Just post more saori
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>>748615302
Is there actual skill involved or is it pure luck?
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>>748615549
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>>748614361
The better question is why do you keep making these shit threads
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>>748623753
afaik no, also afaik it mostly depends on the metal ring set up and RNG do the rest
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>>748615302
last one to fizzle out == 1 point
fatality == 2 points
out of the ring == 3 points
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>>748614361
>femsensei
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>>748615549
>not futa
eh... boring
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>>748618938
Disappointment is a very different emotion from anger
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>>748621724
liking things is not binary
you can like more than one thing
being disappinted that it wasn't futa doesn't mean you don't appreciate the tummy
why are you trying to turn everything into tribalistic shitflinging?
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Holodori's gacha is just a points multiplier and outfit unlocker. The rest of the game is playable for free and they also just released fishing and rocket league minigames today in it.
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>>748614361
>Are there any gacha "games" with actual gameplay
Where Winds Meet
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>>748615549
>Licking the gunshot scar she herself caused
I didn't need a new fetish anon!
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>yuritroons vs futatroons thread
You are both subhumans and this low-quality thread should have been deleted hours ago if mods weren't such brown discord troons.
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>>748615549
>not futa
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>>748614361
i dunno mahjong gacha maybe
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>>748623753
the "skill" comes from choosing what beyblades you build and take into the matchup
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>>748623753
Weight, plastic parts, metal parts, shape of the parts, length of the ripcords, launcher type
You can customize them in a lot of ways to give you different types of advantages.
At middle-school, me and my friends had beyblades and some chinese knock-off accessories that we used to customize stuff. One guy pulls out a ripcord twice as long as the official ones and we think he's going to get so much more torque into the spin, but the teeth were low quality plastic, so the launcher skipped few if you pulled it incredibly hard, losing any advantage it might've given

We also tried filing some of the metal parts on the sides and made them into really dangerous blades that would cut through other beyblade's plastic parts. This became too dangerous when it flew out of the arena and almost hit people in their shins
It was really fun even if it was complete crapshoot.
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>>748628601
That sounds super fun, it is a shame I never got into any type of hobby like that : (
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Zenless Zone Zero has actual gameplay. Action combat with exploration of zones, tons of mini games, and game modes. Its the only gacha genuinely worth playing.
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>>748615302
dexfags btfod



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