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COTW is saved, this time for sure
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>>748750237

Mai is playable, so I'll give the demo a shot sure.
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>>748750237
I had already tried it in the beta and it bored the crap out of me
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>>748750237
Can I play as this chad in the demo?
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what was cotw lacking for it to get glazed/shilled like avatar legends fighting game?
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>>748753276
COTW looks like shit
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9 sleepies till EVO France 2026
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>>748753276
Graphics, graphics, graphics. Cheap looking graphics are normie repellent. Every SNK game will bomb until they finally make a game that doesn't look like it's from the 360 era.
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>>748753276
Lacking graphics and poor art direction despite efforts/budget. Avatar was made on a shoe string budget but looks like the animation
Too much of a system mechanics game
Feints/Brake looks retarded
Characters are mostly martial art people who sometimes throw a fireball

The game just doesn't grab your attention at all, I've never seen a single COTW clip where I was surprised or impressed
Avatar is full of weird/janky interactions and character to character moments
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>>748753454
>>748753883
isn't that a complain about avatar too? i don't think it had normie appeal only fgc loves avatar
>>748754316
>Too much of a system mechanics game
many such cases succeeding
>Avatar is full of weird/janky interactions and character to character moments
do be a heavy match up focused game with lots of layers
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>>748755668
>isn't that a complain about avatar too?
Yes, normies don't give a shit about 2D unless it's DBZ or Naruto, and only when watching the anime dubbed. They play SF/Tekken/MK because they look the best, not because they play the best.
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>>748753276
Equal parts not feeling good to play and not offering anything new within the modern selection of fighting games.
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>>748750237
turns out KOF MI2 doesn't have stories for everyone as i unlocked B Jenet and did hers and she had no cutscenes at all... its over
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>>748755668
>many such cases succeeding
Like what? SF6 succeeded because of QOL/features. The system mechanics help with the onboarding, but if anything you'll also hear tons of people complain about the drive system.
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normies know avatar good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1alkmskoYY
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>>748753276
>Ugly
>Bad animations
>Horrible guest characters (even for retards who still like guest characters)
>The SNK fanbase is 90% posers unless you live in south america

Ive been saying this since it was announced, SNK fans are just posers, and hype up every new release before playing it for a week then dropping it.
Its happened with every single nu-SNK game, and for some reason no one seems to be able to see the pattern
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https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-5297/
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>>748756630
i voted for i-no vs axl but you know briget/unika is winning
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>>748750237
>release demo 1 year later
???
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>>748756630
>bridget unika theme
fuck me, what a waste of a slot
all of the other options would sound great too
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>>748753276
imo it just doesnt feel good to play. what makes a fighter feel good I dunno but all I know is that I dont like this game. I think its the constant canceling and 50/50 and jumping. I know other fgs have this but its too much in cotw.
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>>748756630
>bridget vs unika theme
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>>748756630
Voting Sol vs Asuka theme. Probably based if Bridget vs Unika theme loses.
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>>748753276
because COTW has moronic design.
people shit a lot on SF6 for homogenized gameplay but COTW takes that to 11, every character is literally just cancelled poke into huge combo string or using one of the many REV safe rev moves into infinite pressure.

You can see that in every match, someone gets a counter hit / wild punish and 40% of that niggas health is gone without even needing a super, the next interaction will probably get him killed.

there's simply way too many thing wrong with the game and nothing will save it aside from maybe a re-release like they did with sf4 or something like that with a major overall in balance and game mechanics.
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Daisuke really made new oc self insert so he can fantasize about taking brisket bwc up the ass
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>>748756673
Guess those skills on doing costumes in Granblue Rising pays off. They should've started three years ago alongside it.
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>>748756673
>We are preparing an opportunity to officially showcase the details of this Guest Character to everyone soon. While we can't reveal their identity just yet, please hang tight for the official announcement!
hellooo evo france is right around the corner.
>Development is progressing smoothly, and we're currently conducting extensive battle playtests to polish every detail.
someone need to leak the guest character asap.
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Is it me, or does it feel like fighting games are in a serious lull right now?
>we're between two new characters no one gives a shit about in SF6
>Tekken 8 is still shit
>Strive 2.0 came and went without much interest
>people refuse to play CotW
>Tokon is dead
>Avatar is dead even though everyone seemingly agrees it's a great game
>2XKO is actually dead
It feels like the genre is just a waiting room for guest characters right now, with the release of Tifa, Yujiro, and Strive's guest character likely coinciding this winter.
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I really, REALLY think we should go back to pic related, God do I miss the tournament scene in that era.
Besides that, there was so much player expression, no two Ryu players played the same.
Tekken 7 had a damn good start up until Season 3.
I get fucking bored now watching SF6/T8 or whatever we have now.
Super looking forward to whatever Harada is making, VF6 can't come soon enough, and I do hope that SNK goes all out on the new Art of Fighting game, hoping they would ditch Unreal Engine and go back to hand drawn sprites.
I'm looking forward to AoF3 coming to Steam, bummer it's not releasing on other consoles for some reason.
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>>748756673
>Furthermore, in 2027, the fourth character concluding Season 5 is waiting in the wings.
>waiting in the wings
>wings
it's Raven
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>>748757759
We really like to pretend that Rising doesn't exist, don't we?
Although, it's the same here, new character released some days ago and it all resulted in an uptick in players for a couple of days
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I'll give a try, I have not played fighting game since SF4 I think.

I actually like how the game looks, better than SF6 I feel.
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>>748757759
why is tokon "dead" but cotw simply "people refuse to play"
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>>748757759
>Strive 2.0 came and went without much interest
2.0 is pretty good, but a bunch of people had deluded themselves into thinking they were gonna turn the game into +R and add Instant Kills
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>>748756630
>no Potemkin vs Chipp
You're all failures
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>>748757759
the vicious cycle of fighting games
>new game release
>game gets more players
>game loses players next month
>new update/character released
>game gets more players again for few weeks
>game loses players again next month
>repeat
Note to everyone, ignore the numbers. Stop getting hypnotized by charts and play what you like no matter what. Old or new, bad or good, easy or hardcore, fuck that just fucking play fighting games.
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>>748757759
>people refuse to play CotW
that is because it is so bad people don't have to actually play it to know.how bad it is.
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>take a little break from Strive
>they randomly decided to launch a balance patch out of nowhere
>lose all desire to play

I unironically give up on this game, I just want to be able to learn a character and the respective matchups and keep building on that knowledge, I don't care if my character is B tier, just let it be, man
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>>748757931
Yeah? Who the fuck cares about grubble
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>>748757812
capcom will never give it a rollback update because it is an actual good game and people would never play any other sf game.
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>>748758506
Many people do.
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>>748757812
There are like 3 rollback mods for sf4 larping ass nigga
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>>748758638
and no one plays them because they are not official, let alone know they exist at all.
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>>748758613
>removes f2p version (that you could creamapi)
Well i dont anymore
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>>748758689
Shit so free edition getting delisted is true?
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>>748758494
strive really doesn't change that much man lol
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>>748758613
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>>748750237
Go woke Go broke simple as
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I can’t help but be concerned for SNK’s future after the ManCity news.
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Summertime Saga sold better than this
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>>748753883
Then why 13 flopped?
Are you going to say that picrel looks bad?
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>>748757812
>>748758527
sf4 niggers don't deserve rollback. all they deserve is coast-to-coast el fuerte mirrors

sf4 ruined fighting games by bringing back meaty throws; sfv followed suit but removed most throwtech os's, completely ruining the nuance of 3s/sf4 throw game, every game subsequently follows suit thus removing tons of depth from offense/defense in fighting games
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>>748759076
why did they put tyler1 and lord knight on the same team lmao
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We don't want complexslop
Capcom understand this and made a simple but fun fightan
Snk should just sell their entire ip to capgods
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>>748759089
Yes, dipshit. No up to date 3D graphics = not worth Chad and Tyrone's time.
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>>748758909
remove avatar nigger
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>>748759259
That was made when Avatar released as an unfinished game
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>>748759259
Cry more
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>>748758845
Sol gets new routes every season
Ram got reworked (she takes 5 minutes to learn tho)
Happy Chaos got reworked, but his combo/pressure structures are extremely similar

Strive gets some changes, but it generally doesn't take that long to compensate for them
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>>748759320
when gbvsr didn't get canned yet? cockroach meme doesn't sound right anymore
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>>748757759
It's time to admit fighting games are dead.
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>>748758845
which is worse than if it did in my eyes, if a game is updated in a major way at least I can approach it as a reset, what's fucking annoying to me is random shit getting framedata changed that you just have to relearn and readjust what you've practiced already
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>>748759076
>all these new names I don't recognize at all

SF6 is the last bastion of the FGC, holding strong amid all the bullshit. Respect to them for letting a fighting game be a fucking 1v1 and allowing people to play more than 2-3 seconds of neutral per match. That's why all the new people are coming in and trying to stay
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>>748759476
Grub is actually on track to survive EoS
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>>748758951
the game is not wokeslop at all
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>>748759089
Yes, the XII / XIII sprites look bad with the over-rendered high-contrast dark shading despite most stages being brightly lit.
12 was especially fucking horrendous with the camera zoomed in so far which made the sprites look even worse so everyone had zero expectations for 13.
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>>748759476
Arcsys won't canned the game. They have the skills to support five games at once.
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>>748760341
but they said no more updates?
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>>748757931
I might go back to grub but every 3rd person on netplay being a wireless brazilian turned me off
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>>748759089
everyone is using an oudated look and stance in 13
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>>748760419
No more new characters and no more new battlepasses. Just balance updates from now on.
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So now that toe cone officially flopped, has there ever been a game with active tag that hasn't?
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>>748753276
Being something new.

Costing less than an American lunch.
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>>748760531
Those outdated stances are still being used in XIV and XV like Mai for example.
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>>748760593
was beloved but didn't make a huge wave
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>>748760419
Source on this? I do not recall hearing about this. Just the f2p version closing.
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>>748760818
Because they never said any of this.
People just assume it because they released a DLC character without announcing a new season or a new battle pass.
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>>748757812
SF4 Ember or SF4e might end up reviving online weeklies for the game.

https://youtu.be/0zuLr4txQp8?si=qLTSo4vCtPS8dggI
>never give up space without purpose
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>>748757759
You can always just play something you want. I'm glad we're having a break, we don't really need new releases outside of maybe a new 3D fightan in 2027. And we don't need to wait for a 'savior' that will bring back arcades era hype for the genre (it's not gonna happen).
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>>748750237
I'm gonna be honest if chun li, ken and fucking kenshiro couldn't get people to play and stick with cotw then nothing will except straight up making the game look and sound like an arcsys game by hiring arcsys.
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>>748757931
Everyone forgets it exists because it's so fucking unremarkable and boring even compared to just modern games. It was the same deal with dnf duel when that piece of shit was finally getting dlc, doesn't matter what they do unless they do something as drastic as removing a mechanic that should be removed like with strive 2.0
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>>748755668
>isn't that a complain
saar your t
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>>748757931
>>748763452
Oh yeaaah. How is the new "chain attack" mechanic? No one talks about it somehow.
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>>748753276
there's no reason to answer this question except as a survey response but the reason is pretty obvious to anyone not an snk mark
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>>748753276
It was over before it even began bro
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>>748760678
I wanted my childhood favs to come in. Shame it was mostly MMPR wank instead of cool variety. I wanted Zen-Aku.
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>>748763624
It's the best outcome, where it doesn't completely alter the game around it, and instead has specific use cases between characters for stronger mixups or corner carry. The best thing they could do about it would be to nerf characters with insanely strong corner carry like Katalina to have weaker corner carry to necessitate it's use more.
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>>748759320
>That was made when Avatar released as an unfinished game
Still is too which makes the glazing for it ironic
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>>748763452
>because it's so fucking unremarkable
Nah anon, Streetfood Fighter, Kekken and Guilty Gay are not on the same level of soul as Rising is.
>>748763624
It's fine overall. The damage scaling is a joke so it often feels like a waste for the damage it does, unless you actually kill with it.
As the other anon said, a better outcome than it turning the whole game on its head.
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>>748757969
>>748758470
SNK fans literally cannot fathom nor accept that most people just aren't interested in their games for one reason or another. There just has to be some kind of conspiracy, and secret vendetta to them. It's gotten worse since KOF 15 and now COTW. They're like how Arcsys fans were before Strive, but 1000x worse and more annoying.
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>>748764347
>>748765976
Thought it's gonna be nothingburger mechanic like what they did before in Strive with counter blitz (tbf it gets a pass for removing a mechanic), guess arcsys did learn something on making new mechanics.
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>>748765967
fgs been so raped, releasing an early 2010s game was enough to forgive every sin
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It's because instead of hot girls, COTW keeps bringing in more dudes that maybe 30 people cared about 30 years ago.
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>>748766481
>fgs been so raped
Yes because at some point the push for beginner accommodation got really of out hand when it became blindingly obvious that this stopped being about execution barriers.
It's about player engagement and that certain people just want to win harder and play more than others.
Can devs invest in a substantial singleplayer mode that's unique enough to make people want to play better and organically teach them the mechanics? Sure, but then this stops being developing a fighting game for fighting game players and becomes more singleplayer territory.
At the end of the day, it's about expectations too. When someone buys a fighting game, what do they plan on doing? Playing the story mode and arcade mode with their favorites and shelving it or learning the mechanics, their character, and then interacting with the rest of the roster by fighting them against other people?
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>>748765976
Post more granblue maymays. Someone posted an obese nier once and I sat there giggling at it for twenty minutes
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>>748766408
Counter Blitz is so disappointing
I wouldn't mind the mechanic being weak, but I hate that it's useless in 90% of the cases because you can just do a counterhit combo
It's kinda lame how it's just an auto-combo too

Maybe if they let you RC out of it, it could be interesting
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Does Bloody Roar: Primal Fury* have the same content as Bloody Roar Extreme aside from the cutscenes being different?
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>>748767258
Just play the jap version of Bloody Roar Extreme in the gamecube with english patch. It's the definitive version and the most played one.
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>>748753276
Mai with her default outfit
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>>748766995
I don't have that, sorry.
You shouldn't download too many Niias.
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>>748765967
>>748766481
Also Avatar is like $30 so that helped it a bit in terms of reception
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>>748757812
>muh SF4 was a real SF game!
>muh player expression
>dae think SNK should go back to sprites!?!?

I know what you are and it's a poser faggot who never really got into fighting games and just wants to relieve his highschool/college days when you had no responsabilities instead of living whatever shit life you have now.
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>>748766995
im glad avatar is doing well
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>granblue
have they removed 66L and BC yet?
doesn't look like it.
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>>748768361
Why, are you gonna complain about Nier too?
You haven't played the game in 2 years you faggot
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>>748753454
It's on the cheaper side but aesthetically it's stronger than anything else currently played. Like do you not have eyes? Just look at SF6 and Tekken they look putrid.
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>>748768658
so that's a no?
and thanks for reminding me release nier happened.
what a shitshow of a game.
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>cotw demo doesnt have online play
xd
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>>748766995
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>>748760341
>Strive
>BBCF
>Granblue Rising
>Tokon
>The upcoming new original fighting game IP
TOO MUCH
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>>748766995
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>>748768291
The other things aside, you don't need to touch fighting games at all to be able to tell that 3D SNK games look like shit. You just have to have functioning eyeballs.
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>we will never see another tag fighter again
finally
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>>748770876
Such a weirdly high-effort gif for such a shitty character.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3NUacgGkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmWO2usV9Z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ej32V-E8V4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PS_TEuOItg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad3tJ0HWYjg
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>>748759089
It's legit one of the most beautiful and best fighting game ever.
And I'd say that Samsho 2019 is the right balance between 2 and 5.
And they all bombed.
FGC is only interested in Street Fighter sexy alt costumes..
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>>748759089
picrel looks bad
kof13 sprites look ass in motion
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>>748759241
>>748760323
>>748772179
Damn I guess it seems that the games SNK is making just aren't good in almost any way. Explains why they can gain zero footing whatsoever, no matter what game of any franchise they put out.
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>>748759476
it is canned. cygames took over everything there was to take over and arcsys is not involved anymore
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>>748771116
doubt it
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>>748772882
Adherence to the past is kind of shooting them in the foot.
Yes, it is retaining its core audience of people in their closing in on their 40s but it's also not necessarily bringing in a substantial amount of new people.
Is sticking to your roots good? Yes, but it has its drawbacks too. I guess the aftermath of the marketing campaign SNK did for CotW just makes it appear more stark than it appears.
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>>748772730
I am a great magician
your hair is BLUE
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>>748772730
Another SF6 streamer showdown yaaay...
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>>748774574
That's a washed up EVO champ you're talking about lad.
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>>748769845
Kek'd
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>>748776551
brawhallabvlls pls spare some for the rest of us
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>>748776551
Just because anime (read: battle shounen) is popular doesn't mean anime fighters will be popular.
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>>748776640
You'd need to say that in portuguese for them to understand
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still don't understand how you play nier lol
run out of charges then what
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>>748777616
it takes like 9 seconds for death to come back.
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>>748759362
>Sol gets new routes every season
You mean loses them since his release state lmao.
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>>748771025
Yes anon, and the solution to fix SNK's shit 3D problem is to go back to the sprites that bankrupted the company, that will surely fix their games!
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>>748778748
Someone post Kof13's steamcharts right now!
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>>748778809
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>>748776551
>2 out of the top 3 fighting games belong to ubisoft

heh
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How would YOU fix, city of the wolves?

I am not just talking balance wise.
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>>748778748
I mean, they are adding new characters to AoF3...
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>>748757931
I bought the Switch 2 edition recently to make it easier to play, so I don't need to go through the asspain of booting my laptop and Steam up to play the game, but even I need to admit, fun as it is to play getting off work, the game's not going to un-dead itself anytime soon. CyGames all but basically confirmed Id's all we're getting, Stella Magna broke up, and barely anyone gives a crap about the game in current year. Give it credit, it's an upgrade to a game that died fast back in Wu Flu years, that's remarkable in and of itself it managed to get some second wind.

Also, they never gave me a Nier alt costume and I'm really feeling the pissed-offness now that I'm playing on a console without mod support. Used to use the anniversary costume mod with the cute felt hat, incredibly comfy.
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>>748780209
New guest characters: ishowspeed & inugami korone
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>>748765976
Granblue is genuinely at the exact same level as those you mentioned but still somehow having more boring gameplay in a way that it makes strive look like Xrd in comparison which is why I'm calling it unremarkable and why people forget it exists so often. Doesn't matter how many special interactions, how many special voice lines, how many mini games or how it has the shitty arcsys chibi lobby they've unfortunately been doing since p4a when the game is still like THAT. Expected from a game that's supposed to be a follow up of the SF but anime game but still.
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>>748780469
treat it as a full vanity game making it packed to the brim with fanservice while quietly working on a new game with better graphics. basically what they're doing now
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>>748780469
Just hire arcsys to do visuals(including fx for the love of God) and music for it that is genuinely all you need to do and you will sucker people into buying it just like dnf duel suckered people like me into buying that garbage.
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>>748757931
I haven't played in months but I am getting the urge to play some matches as my beloved Sheep.
Is it possible to buy Id with rupies or is he real money only?
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>get a life lead
>play lame/runaway instead of taking useless risks
>don't engage
>get one and done'd
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>>748784818
Possible to buy with rupies.
Some months ago, they gave away 15k rupies for free. Maybe you can still claim them.
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>>748753276
kofxv is better than cotw in every way why would i want to play cotw
i just wish they put mian in xv
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>>748780674
And that release will be even less relevant and DOA than COTW is right if you can believe that.
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>>748785028
>Play careful footsies
>One n dones left and right
>Play like an ape and constantly spam fireball dr to get in for free
>Full sets and I rank up
The people have spoken I guess
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>>748753276
At this point Harada is the only person who can save SNK. He understands if you combine great graphics with 3D gameplay, you will get a shit ton of sales.
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>>748785206
>Possible to buy with rupies.
Nice
>Some months ago, they gave away 15k rupies for free. Maybe you can still claim them.
I seem to recall those things were usually timed to end by the start of a new patch so they are probably gone, but I might as well check.
Either way I have enough Rupies for Id. I was saving them for when they added Anila's swimsuit as an alt costume
haha...
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>harada
>saving anything
>after what he did to tekken
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>>748787019
It is clear he wasn't in control at the end.
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>>748786684
>Harada
>save
I have zero reason to doubt that working for Bamco was fucking hellish just like he said. Unfortunately, I have very little reason to think he is completely blameless for the things that went wrong with Tekken 8
I hope he proves me wrong.
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>>748787172
at the end of what?
harada has been ruining tekken for 20 years now.
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>>748785028
>>748786263
I'm hardstuck 1500 on Ingrid, what should I do?
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>>748787796
Stop playing SF6.
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>>748787935
i have to because i want to make content and it's the only big game after Tokon flopped as hard as it did
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>>748788010
Tokon will make a big comeback. Just needs a few changes and some DLC.
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>>748753276
Didn't the game have functionality problems on release? Or was that just the open beta?
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>>748787796
My only experience with Ingrid has amounted to getting dragged down by 1300MR Ryus being the biggest terrorists the world has ever seen
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>>748790095
Absolutely meaningless unless they remove the drm.
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>>748790095
they'll do anything except address the two biggest problems
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>>748790356
women and?
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>>748790095
>install tokon beta
>can't play because linux
>turns out the game just fucking drowns itself in the first month
welp, thanks for not letting me waste 60 dollas
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>>748787796
Something that helped me out was getting good with her pressure. She actually has pretty good frame traps for sf6, namely her mp-mk target combo cancelled into a special move. If you can learn to delay that to catch delay tech you'll be able to open anyone up. I started doing replay takeover on people I couldn't open up to get the timing.
Otherwise you need to stop doing so much random teleports, antiair more, check dr better, etc, the usual advice. A good defense alone can carry you to 1800mr (or so I've heard...)
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>>748790571
gays pretending to be women
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>>748766995
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>Fate/unlimited codes will never have a sequel
>Even if it did, they would shove in FGO shit
I am in despair.
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sol is too tuff in +R no cap
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>>748790853
>namely her mp-mk target combo cancelled into a special move.
imo it's just a hit confirm tool, in itself it's not very good to frametrap from, except into higher level beams
I think they mostly gave it to her because her links fucking suck
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>>748792880
Just do basic K > S > HS > Fafnir > FB tyrant rave strings, threaten command grabs, and attempt single sidewinders during air combos. He's still a Sol gorilla. All that has changed is the skill ceiling.
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>>748793707
did i asked nigger
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>>748793227
If you can establish that it's a threat when stocked (both 1 stock and 0 stock od frametrap) then you can sneak in fireball or I've also seen down teleport work on legend players. It's far more threatening than lp frametraps, on block it leaves you at a good distance to strike/throw/shimmy, and since it is very hit confirmable it makes sense to try it after dr hk to extend that pressure. Past a certain point you'll get less good chances to full screen beam someone so using stocks for pressure like that is very effective.
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>>748791557
As if Type Moon would employ eighting again especially if it's the current eighting.
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been playing a lot of the janky ps2/xbox/gc era fighting games

the good
>KOF Maximum impact 2
>bloody roar primal fury
>street fighter ex 2
>doa3

the meh
>bleach heat the soul 7
>street fighter ex 3
>kof maximum impact
>mk armageddon
>clash of ninja 4
>fate/unlimited codes

the bad
>fatal fury wild ambition
>samurai shodown sen
>xmen next dimension
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>>748793801
You told the world and the world told back, now sit down pay attention boy.
(fella can't even mash DP)

Sol is as straightforward as it gets. You pressure the opponent, you grab them, you 6P anything that hits from the chest up, and you use your privileged DP when you're in trouble. The Geico caveman could do it. Can't play Sol Badguy? More like BadGUY at fighting games. Now quit your woes and get your ass back in there and grind.
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Tokon is fun but it does make me just want to play DBFZ more
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>>748794430
>(both 1 stock and 0 stock od frametrap)
Sure, but you're spending stocks to frametrap/get plus frames when you need them to kill
>on block it leaves you at a good distance to strike/throw/shimmy
This only really works in the corner, you need to walk up throw midscreen, and her midscreen throw is kinda bad anyway so why even tech
>It's far more threatening than lp frametraps
I think that's mostly the fault of her jabs being kinda bad and stubby, because stagger pressure from lights is stupidly good in this game

>If you can establish that it's a threat
Let's be real tho, you can't establish shit at 1500MR and below, those gremlins can't be conditioned
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>>748793707
sorry, I meant to say sol is too strong as an opponent. He can do safe pressure and then go for wild throw or throw out unsafe shit that is really effective but highly punishable.
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>>748795735
Sol tends to struggle in neutral against fat buttons and projectiles. Who do you play?
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>>748753454
I like the aesthetic with the shading but the animations are seriously boring and lame. It still has that 3D tweeny feel to it on many moves and victory outros like in 14 and 15 and has none of 13's attitude from its sprites.
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>>748795968
imo the big issue is its particle effects look like stock effects from unity or some shit
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>>748756630
>Ky vs Robo-Ky
That's my vote there.
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>>748795947
venom
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>>748796342
i am venom
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>>748795525
>you're spending stocks to frametrap/get plus frames when you need them to kill
Frametraps are a way to kill.
>so why even tech
People tech midscreen all the time for any character. A better player shouldn't as much since the risk/reward sucks, but if you know that they won't tech then why not take your free throw?
>her jabs being kinda bad
All jabs have worse scaling than normals to my knowledge. Being able to pressure with a medium tc is a unique strength of hers.
>those gremlins can't be conditioned
This is kind of a contentious topic that I don't necessarily disagree with, but you shouldn't go into any game thinking in absolutes like that. You're conditioning yourself to use less tools before you even start playing.
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theres a rumor going around on 2ch that konami has hired the arika guys to work on a new bloody roar
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>>748797307
Few months ago Konami renewed the Bloody Roar IP so it's still nothing new yet. Also not eighting? That's bad.
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>>748797716
Eighting made Nen Impact and DNF duel as of late, i think their exclusion is good..
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apparently im too retarded to pass COTW tutorial so fuck that game
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>>748797836
Eighting made Bloody Roar. Bringing the ex devs back would be better but yeah their recent games doesn't favor them much plus they seem to forgotten their 3D gameplay design.
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>>748756630
Axl/I-No wouldn't be bad either.
I'm just glad with the other choices, there's no way May/Johnny is gonna make it. There is no way in hell modern ArcSys would come up with a good song for those two. Only straight-up slice of life anime slop again.
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>>748795393
I just can't bring myself to play the MI games, at all.
Falcoon was the absolute worst thing to happen to SNK, counting the koreans and the chinese.
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I keep getting the same people in Avatar now... It was good while it lasted, but I think it's dead now.
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>>748790095
The fact they even act like they fixed anything is insane. Tournaments still get desynced while spectating, you can still get hit with 8 RBF when you play against a toaster, and the DRM still eats way more power than necessary. This game deserves every piece of shit flung at it, though it's sad that the two giant corporations trying to make fighting games has resulted in these two boring ass shitshows. It means SF and Tekken will continue to dominate and companies will be even more risk averse than they already are.
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>>748753276
all the other responses are wrong
normies hate it on principle because muh saudis
yes really
the italian dj and ronaldo were the final nail in the coffin
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>>748803984
ronaldo has a bajillion followers on twitter
that says something
snk, especially its modern incarnation, is dimeless af and nobody gives a shit ass what an snk is nor do a lot of these "normies" even care to know what an snk is
i don't know what normies you're talking about but most normies don't give a shit
plenty of "normies" still watch wwe rasslin even when they show it at a saudi event and it's way more people doing that than anyone ever touching a goddamn snk game, still, to this day, even if isn't quite the attitude numbers of yesteryears
snk literally advertised at a wwe event and nobody gave a shit except the snk nerds
snk is dimeless and it will not change until snk squares the fuck up and gets its heads out of its collective asses
no amount of ronaldo this, sowdey that, is going to change the fact that modern snk sucks
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and i can guaranfuckingtee you that if cotw didn't have ronaldo and snk didn't have the sowdeys, snk would still flop and fail to gain any traction, no matter what your nerd ass brain might think, because *you're* wrong and you'll always be wrong and you've been wrong compared to me for the past few years
i mean, what's another year of you being wrong compared to me when i predicted everything including how the snk marks would react to both snk's failures to gain a meaningful audience and the criticisms of snk
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>>748806815
...meds?
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>>748806864
k i have taken a pills
so now anyway if you want to keep turning a blind eye to snk's failures and pretend it's all trump^W capcom's fault or ronaldo's fault or sowdey's fault or arctran's fault or w/e, then it just shows that you're a scared little fanboy afraid to admit that snk is the core fuckup in the equation, not the aforementioned other entities
and fanboys are amongst the worst kinds of fans to exist
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>>748806987
>they hated him because he spoke the truth
SNK is like eighting, they are well past their golden years and better off getting absorbed by someone bigger
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>>748806987
I don't like CotW but KoF XV is very much on par with some of the best KoF games.
There is still SOME talent there but it's very obvious that the Saudi prince meddled a lot more with CotW than he did with anything previously.
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>>748807042
they need a change of management to someone who'll whoop some subordinate ass militantly and tell anyone not keeping up to gtfo, no stragglers and freeloading ebt er i mean slackers and untalented losers who'll never grow and don't care to since the paycheck they get is apparently good enough
>>748807121
i'm not disliking the games, i think they're enjoyable for what they are, but ignoring the reality is a problem with snk fags, and blaming other things is another problem
have you seen the way they just talk about tokon in their general? like it's just brought up in non sequitur but there's always an excuse for it to just be brought up
it's just them punching down like loser bullies
that's the difference between me and them
i don't punch down, i punch up because i'm fucking little mac and i take on the big guys
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lol
https://archived.moe/pw/search/image/tyvtXMT_SQwOHtd66HE1VA/
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>>748807121
I agree about KOF although it sucks that they retroactively added advance strike and joined the club of universal mechanics that ignore 3/5 neutral options. It's also dishonest to ignore how bad it looks, if the visual quality was equal to what the old KOF games were in their time it would have exploded. Not that it's even doing bad, I think the player count is higher than most discord fighters.
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>>748750237
I still enjoy this game but I can't say that or maxshill fans will get mad
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>>748768832
SF6 looks underwhelming in stills but it's beautiful in motion. It has some wonderful animations.
Can't comment on Tekken
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>>748808885
I think tekken 8 looks better in motion
SF6 just looks bad period.
Tekken 6 looks better in motion than tekken 8 by a LOT though.

I don't know what the fuck it is but it looks really fluid.
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>>748808846
don't flatter yourself, "maxshill fans" don't remember your game even exists
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>>748786684
the thing is that legacy titles sells, not new FGs.

>>748797307
>Bloody roar
it would be neat, Bloody roar 2 is great to play, also, a echo chamber for furries.
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>>748786684
this 1+1 logic is impressively stupid no matter how frequently it appears
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The strive battle pass end date makes it kind of obvious when the guest character is going to drop huh
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>>748809567
How is "winter 2026" doesn't give you the obvious hint?
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>>748809638
learn the english
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>>748809716
fuck my esl kicks in
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>>748809567
>no third batch of short stories this time
Dang guess it's the next pass then.
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>>748809416
>people who don't play games don't play games
yeah actually max fans would fit in with /v/
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Play Asuka's game
No, not Asuka 120%
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>>748763974
I wish ronaldo was a rival schools guest character instead. Salvatore I don't mind since he confirmed duck king for me who had been missing since XI for me
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>>748809981
asuka R kreutz?
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>>748810054
Men should NOT be named Asuka...
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>>748750237
COTW is the most soulless empty game ever made. It can manage 6+ characters a year because literally every fucking one is a copy paste of the others with the exact same moves/combo structure down to the frame data on individual buttons being near identical.
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>>748756630
>missed opportunity the franchise will never recover from
The franchise will never recover from strive itself, people are actually begging for vs themes now when arcsys used to just pump them out because they felt like it
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>>748810135
>down to the frame data
How would you know?
You don't play.
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Where are the lobbies?
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>>748810243
I did play it, thats the problem. I can only gasp at how bad you have to be at fighting games to think COTW characters are unique from one another in any way. Every character does the same combo:

>Meterless: normal>B DP break>juggle special
>Rev gauge spend: Normal>EX>EX>EX DP break>juggle special
>Super+Rev: Normal>EX>EX>EX DP break> juggle special>super
Its insanely samey, you can't even pretend it isn't
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>>748810634
That's not covering the entirety of your statement. I'm not that other guy, I'm mostly agreeing with you.
Their combos are samey EX into EX into EX shit, yes. It's by far the biggest reason they can shit out so many characters - they don't have to worry about anything connecting properly because it all canceling into each other, limited mostly by REV%, and the opponent is in a juggle state the entire time.
However their moves and frames are distinct from each other. There's nothing made to be universal, like Granblue where almost everyone has identical Close Normals, not even universal mechanics like REV Blow are the same across characters. Neutral with each character is unique to that extent.
Ironically, if EX-EX-EX cancel REV combos didn't exist, the uniqueness of each character would get to stand out more. The EX combos are a disservice to the game.

Brake and Feint are definitely fucking stupid, too.
99% of the time, braking/feinting is something you should always do, so those canceled moves' frame data may as well be the default.
Like the Light version of anyone's DP should be the Brake version and the Heavy would follow through.
Any Feint that makes you more plus on block may as well be plus by default, and any that make you more minus may as well not exist.
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>>748810510
The western hemisphere is either in bed or asleep while Europe is on its way to work. Australia/New Zealand puts up pathetic numbers while east asia only plays Street Fighter and Tekken.

Ask yourself: do you really want SEA to get into fighting games? Of course not because half of it is an islamic shithole
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>>748810510
Almost every time I host a lobby nobody joins, and usually it's when I decide to try and play a game I have no skills in (BBCF) and I get trashed repeatedly.
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>>748766087
I get why people don't want to play COTW. There's actually a bunch of good reasons for that one. I also get why people don't want to play KOF, because 3x3 still makes people think tag fighter even if it's not, and unless your name's Dragonball, nobody wants that.
But I am still mad about how many people screamed they wanted a new samsho, and then never showed up. Not for epic(understandable), not for steam, not for console. These same fuckturkeys will shout all day for a new darkstalkers or rival schools, and likewise just never play them.
You don't have to be woke to be a modern audience loser, and they will always deserve to be called out.
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>>748753276
People expected Garou 2 and instead got SF6 SNK Edition.
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>>748766995
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>>748816053
>what does she even do
Marries your waifu while you watch.
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>>748753276
As much as people pretend otherwise, graphics/art direction matters and SNK games look like shit. Even KOF 12/13 had a cheap look to it despite folks liking the sprite work and it not being cheap at all, SNK's sense of presentation and aesthetics is just bad, and it will always put people off
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>>748817182
>brought to you by carls jr, the re-re-re-repost
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>mario party deluxe week
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>>748817514
Hey anon, >>>/vg/ is over there.
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>>748795393
gnt4 is not "meh"
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>>748800623
Korean era KOF was kino
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>>748817884
/gbvsg/ owns this site
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ITS FUCKING KINO

https://youtu.be/MxThbfaKXQU
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"Leave COTW to me."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItUTzVV8rps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wqyYSTdpDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M9mzKlgf4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLqyKTz9Dmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwfHlCRcGB0
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>>748818683
Adrenaline in my SOVL
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>>748753276
Talent
SNK can get all the funding it wants it wont matter a lick when they have zero fucking talent.

Their artists suck.
Their combat designers suck.
Their writers are trash
Their tech sucks, and they suck at using it.

The way Capcom treats Mai contrasts so sharply with the way SNK just sucked at getting her appeal right this go around.

SNK cant be saved with more money. It has none of the talent from the KoF13 and before days.
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>>748819680
Yeah
That's REAL cool and all
But I'm still not playing Street Fighter Dix
Sorry
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>>748819852
I wouldnt want you to, faggot.
There's enough obnoxious trannies running around on ranked doing gay faggot shit, I wouldnt want another
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>>748817514
>All of the bullshit busted ass top tiers
>and charlotta
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>>748819968
Sounds like you are right at home then.
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>>748766995
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>>748819680
Honestly Mai's world tour story was actual kino and you could tell the devs had a lot of fun with it.
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did avatar lobbies come out yet
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>>748756630
Strive Doesn't deserve THE GUILTY GEAR vs THAT MAN theme.
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>>748757759
Devs keep trying to reinvent the wheel instead of improving on it. It's 2026 and there still hasn't been a single good fighting game story mode.
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>>748818683
Damn it's good, I wish SF6 OST had that quality
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>>748818121
yeah it is. there is no depth. its a fun party masher. people treat it more seriously than it is, its like calling the kamen rider fighter good. it isn't, but it is fun as a meme
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>>748820348
My theory is a good portion of the development staff grew up with crushes on her, because if you're in your 40s or even younger and into fighting games especially in Japan and Latin America, Mai probably gave you your first boner.

So it makes sense for them to show her as much love as they did



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