>>748839021
Dont ask questions.
Just consume next Ross video and then get excited to sign next petition

>>748839021
Ask yourself if you're willing to dox yourself in order to play the latest AAA slop. Now ask yourself if anyone is.

>>748839204
>Now ask yourself if anyone is
normies don't care unfortunately

EU doesn't need a gaming market.

>>748839204
Have you yourself looked at what's in the Kids Act's actual legal text?
You really should before you start parroting morons:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52026PC0681

In short:
games themselves will not require age verification. The only obligations to games are in Article 15, which backreferences to isolated parts of articles 9, 11 and 12. Concretely:
1. It forbids undermining a decision to put the game down and go do something else e.g. by spamming players with notifications to come back into the game.
2. It forbids incentivizing engagement and continued play in minors through either positive or negative reinforcement tricks. E.g. no battle passes with rewards that time out and become unobtainable (negative reinforcement) and no daily grind rewards if you keep playing for extended time (positive reinforcement).
3. Games must use privacy-by-default settings. Players, even minors, are free to change those themselves to relinquish their privacy but this MUST be opt-in.
4. Ingame communication systems may not allow minors to receive unsollicited communication. Only contacts the minor themselves has approved to receive messages of are allowed.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE RELEVANT PARTS.

Age verification DOES NOT FACTOR INTO IT.
Age verification ONLY comes into play when purchasing games from an online storefront.
Games rated above the minimum age threshold, e.g. rated PEGI-16 or PEGI-18 will require one-time age verification with the storefront. This means of age-verification MUST use the EU verification scheme and MUST use zero-knowledge proof. Which means any means of verification relying on doxing yourself and sending video-selfies, sharing copies of government IDs, etc. are all ILLEGAL.

>>748839021
Because just look at how this shit is currently handled.
Age verification is being used by countries like the UK to empower local companies to essentially blackmail websites in other countries for cash.
Cuck countries like the UK, could just disable access to websites with a great firewall of Britain, but they won't do that when it is more profitable to try to roll retards for money.

This is an issue for smaller developers, because they need to pay the ransom for some age verification company, and just like ISPs, DDOS mitigation and payment providers, you once again introduce another faggot company that chimes in with "Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?".
>>748840367
So basically forced blackmail for the storefront. What if a game is sold outside of the storefront? What if it's open source? This just removes independent publishing.
If the storefront is forced to comply with this pointless regulation, does that mean that the storefront needs to comply with other EU regulation? Will I be allowed to sell used game copies and their licenses as is required by EU law?

>>748840367
>AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE RELEVANT PARTS.
yea nice try anon I'm not reading your headcanon

>>748839021
Non issue for adults your digital purchase will already prove your identity and age.

>>748840367
All your precious info will be leaked "accidentally" you can wait and see or say fuck off to retarded government meddling where this will obviously lead to more draconian bullshit overtime.

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>>748839021
>how would this "collapse the whole EU gaming market"?
Death by a thousand cuts.

First of all, EU is planning to implement a VERY similar mandatory "strong identification" requirement into every single smart device, computer and software that connects online, as seen in the UK and Ausfailia already.
That means doxing yourself every single day, using one of the two industry giant smart phones they've a-OKd. For which they've already created the buggy & unsafe as fuck "EU Digital Wallet", that they're planning to make MANDATORY by 2030.

On top of this, there Brussels trying to ban privately hosted game and file-hosting servers, as surprise surprise, the megacorps building datacenters and kicking the Stop Killing Games initiative in the groin managed to convince the boomer homos "That's illegal !!!".

Second, EU just very recently introduced a new law that DEMANDS all businesses, big and small, to register into their scammy system, and PAY the Union a 1000€ + handling fee, every single year, if they plan on selling any products or services into an EU country. This also applies to EU citizens themselves.
This practically makes the lives of poorfag indies and private businesses impossible, as many people are struggling to even pay their rent and keep their car fueled. This results only big mega corporations surviving under the new laws, killing competition and alternatives, as domestic markets are not profitable enough, and selling overseas has been made extra hard by the foreign payment processors the past few years too.

>>748840367
This is the most OPTIMISTIC interpretation I've seen so far. Meaning not even remotely true, and ignoring all the other elements I just listed.
Hell, even many EU politicians are opposing this shit, because the current wording makes it Orwellian as fuck.

tl;dr: this is yet another assault on privacy, private ownership of media and products, anonymity, freedom of speech, physical media, and fair business practices.

>>748841047
>Non issue for adults your digital purchase will already prove your identity and age.
Incorrect.
There's been shittons of cases of some 25-year-old accounts tied to credit cards being marked as "potentially underage", just because the rules have changed.

And this seems to be the idea that zoom zoom homos and dying boomers making these laws do not understand: it's a slippery slope of enshittification of services.

First, the corpohomos make you addicted to their service.
Then, they slowly make it worse, but crank up the prices.
By the time most people would've called it quits or start complaining, it's too late for them to stop and look for alternatives.

It does not help that many of the current industry giants live by acquiring their smaller competition, consuming their assets and IPs, then killing the original name, devs and product completely.
Prime example: Microsoft and NOKIA, Google and Youtube + Vimeo.

>>748840367
How come literally no service on earth uses this "EU verification scheme"?

>>748841863
>For which they've already created the buggy & unsafe as fuck "EU Digital Wallet", that they're planning to make MANDATORY by 2030.
I looked it up and it's just mandatory to make it available, not mandatory to use.

>>748842097
I have nothing to hide who cares

>>748842326
non-NPCs care. we get it, some people are cattle. you don't care and you never will. we will still try to retain your rights

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>>748839021
this law would cause shit like Microsoft having to go back and add age verification to Halo 2 or Activision for MW2 because they still have online functionality to this day.
there are in fact many old games from the 2000s(ps3 games for example) and possibly even 90s that are still playable online.

I simply can't imagine even the big corporations wanting to have to deal with this garbage.

there is absolutely zero fucking way this passes in it's current form. reading through this draft almost gave me an aneurysm because it's so utterly fucking retarded, I almost want to believe that it isn't real and that SKG has fallen for some kind of hoax. frankly I REALLY hope that is the case.

otherwise these EUboomers have outdone themselves this time, I have throughout my years of having to read through laws and drafts, never seen something this ignorant and moronic. this eclipses even some of the shit these people tried during Covid, it's that draconic and retarded.

if it somehow gets pushed through like chat control did, well literally only god can help Europe at that point

>>748839202
>>748839851
>>748840367
>>748841047
shills and/or bots

>>748840367
>Age verification DOES NOT FACTOR INTO IT.
How are you meant to enforce #4 without age verification? Also, the first two will simply not be enforced at all.

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>>748842282
>I looked it up and it's just mandatory to make it available, not mandatory to use.
Finland already has made its online-only mail system mandatory for all government and financial messaging, and the only way to log onto that shit is to have a bank account, which all require owning a recent (~2020s) smart phone (running official Google or Apple OS), with the bank's official, up-to-date, internet connection demanding app installed.

It has already bit many, many boomers in the arse, but even not-so-old tech geeks like me are starting to get into trouble with it, since documents and bills previously received in paper, via traditional mail, were secretly moved to this online portal, without even telling people about it. Meaning late payment fees and shit like notices of vehicle operating ban started pouring into civvies' mail boxes out of the blue.

So yes, this is a very slippery slope, and part of the bigger plan the Brussels nazis got cooked for all of us. It does not help that these asshats still work closely with the other cucks, such as Frenchies and Britbongs, who still haunt the directives and meetings to this day.

>>748842326
I and every single person on this planet has A LOT to hide, and some Kraut bitch has no right to claim any access into my personal or work life.

And like said already a decade ago, this "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" is a VERY dangerous mindset. This reeking argument is often raised in debates by the pro-big brother hawks.

There are at least FOUR (4) very good reasons to reject this statement, solidly and uncompromisingly:

1. The rules may, and often DO change.
2. It is not YOU who determines if you're guilty or not.
3. Obsolete, in-just laws must be broken in order for the society to progress.
4. Privacy is a basic human NEED.

It's already proven that not even the Western states are capable of pure, unadulterated, equality-driven progress any more. Back in the late 1990s, we thought that we were entering utopia era.

>>748842231
Nobody asked you about cookies either until EU forced them.

And according to burger slop eaters this is a bad thing.

>>748839021
The EU has been maliciously cripping economic growth for decades now. This is just another thursday for them.
Nuke brussels.

>>748840367
this zk shit literally won't ever pan out and you know it, shill. they'll include backdoors for themselves and pretend it's zk. and then your shit gets hacked and leaked anyway because these are the same incompetents who programmed the verification app that got pwned within a day.

>>748839204
normalniggergoycattle have already given hundreds of companies all of their personal information and video'd their face and asshole and will continue to do so for any company that asks them

>>748840367
>Games rated above the minimum age threshold, e.g. rated PEGI-16 or PEGI-18 will require one-time age verification with the storefront.
Any mention of what course of actions is required if your storefront account is old enough to vote?

Jewgle suddenly stopped demanding proof of age on jewtube when my gmail turned 20 years old. Fuckers shouldn't even have started because my jewtube account was several years old by the time they did the forced merger so technically my gmail was 22+ years old when they stopped nagging.

how the fuck would "banning private servers" even be enforceable?
someone needs to explain the logistics of trying to prevent people from connecting to a private server outside the EU to these politicians like they're 5
China and Russia have been unsuccessful for years in banning VPNs and TOR even with their surveillance infrastructure

all this would do is cause Europe to become a pirate haven desu, why deal with this shit if you can just torrent games

>>748842326
Literally only government shills and retarded wokefags who think they won history forever say this.

>>748844857
It's not about blanket enforcement, it's about the ability to punish people arbitrarily and have probably cause to disrupt/search anyone they want to monitor for other reasons. Same as how the war on drugs wasn't about drugs, it was about a cultural excuse to arrest people that annoyed them.

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>>748842326
Everybody has something to hide.

>>748840367
>muh zero knowledge
kiss my ass

>>748843610
quite a few of these old games with some online functionality are physical only and can't feasibly be patched either
meaning all the major development studios & publishers would technically be on the hook

>>748840367
>4. Ingame communication systems may not allow minors to
and how do you think any games with communication systems will know who to apply this, anon...

>>748839021
He explains it on the video, just watch it again, faggot

>bunch of retarded kids surprised that the thing we warned them about happening, happens
AHAHAHAHAHA retarded fags
Stop killing games!!! Kills games.
I'm waiting for your apology to piratesoftware

>>748845026
I see your point but I have to disagree because this is specifically targeting gamers which is IMO too niche for the purpose you've described
I think they'd use something else for that, like your example of drugs or something similar that would serve as a much wider net to catch dissidents

>We demand regulation in gaming!
>*EU regulates gaming*
>NOOOOOO, NOT LIKE THIS!!!

>>748840367
>Age verification ONLY comes into play when purchasing games from an online storefront.
yeah, and physical games won't exist
im not uploading my id for these fucks

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>>748846773
this, all the movement did was make the crusty fossils in the EU parliament aware of these newfangled 'vidya games' so they can put the leash on them

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I mean there IS the elephant in the room that yes this is going to completely fuck up the gaming market because the vast overwhelming majority of retards buying shit like the new GTA or whatever flavor of the month CS/TF2/Culling knock off are literal children and the industry quite literally cannot function without proxy access to their parents money to buy thousands in microtransaction bullshit and there genuinely would not be enough time to rectify the problem.
You can cope until the cows come home about how much a joke globally europe is as an economic unit, but they still need their money.
Shit's why video production (live action or animated) is in such fucking dire straits they can't get enough money for their grossly inflated production costs and there isn't the opportunity to cut back because of how much debt is in hollywiener.

>>748847114
>specifically targeting gamers
That's just to establish the framework. It can always be expanded upon later.

PIRATE SOFTWARE WON

>>748839021
nigga this shit is even worse than how china regulates games
this isnt passing

>>748843920
The cookies thing is shit because it was a half measure, the EU should have put their foot down and just blanket banned third party tracking cookies.

>>748847490
exactly
this shit's DOA, not saying that people should stop paying attention but there is no world where this bill passes

>>748847218
Yeah this unironically been the double-edged sword behind Ross's reliance on the EU commissions for StopKillingGames. If working with US politics is a Monkey's Paw, EU politics is basically doing the exact opposite of literally anything you tell them to, arguably out of spite.
>US: "Hey, stop working with Russia. You are going to fund another Crimea."
>EU: "Fuck you, US! You aren't the boss of us!"
><insert Ukraine Invasion here>

It's hard to say Ross got backstabbed by them so much as he had a Frog & The Scorpion moment. It's just in their nature.

>>748842231
It's not available yet

>>748847220
If you look too young then stores have to check your ID for 18+ games.
Also the government has your ID already and would just tell the store a yes/no.

>>748847787
I mean, no, people should pay attention to what their politicians are doing, but they also shouldn't completely abandon reason and buy into doomerist psyop bullshit.

>>748847908
the clerk looks at the id. he doesnt upload it to the internet.
are you pretending to be retarded?

>>748847908
The store employee usually doesn't have eidetic memory nor the capability to upload his memories to some fragile corporate server, as a matter of fact they often just lightly glance at the ID without even checking if it's really you

>>748848048
The verification anon has in mind is one where you don't send a pic of your id to the storefront, but instead the storefront contacts your government, your government verified your identity (which they already have on record do it's not like you're exposing any new data to them) and then tell the storefront that you're verified.
The problem is I have zero faith in there being a system where the government can't then connect and track what account the verification was requested for, meaning that all your age verified accounts would be linked to your ID. In theory you could make something like that, but I just don't think it'll happen if this goes through

>>748840367
>age-verification ... MUST use zero-knowledge proof
Literally impossible. If it's revocable, it's not zero knowledge. If it's not revocable, nothing stops you from using somebody else's key and it's not age verification.

>>748848429
they'd totally have a list of any time you requested your id. fuck that. thats worse than just selling your info to jeets like they currently do

>>748848564
I wouldn't care if they kept a list of how many times I requested an ID if they couldn't connect it to which account/service it was for.

>>748847114
It doesn't matter what it's used for, it's about it being something where it's now justified to search ANY server. Things that can retroactively be planted to seize assets, destroy online infrastructure, and arrest anyone that does anything online. Website owners. Website users. People that the media can convince the public were in violation of some cybercrime.

The megacorps would be okay. In fact, they want this. Both to stifle out competition and so they can get away with delisting all of their older games.
Everyone else? They get fucked.

Apologize to him. RIGHT NOW.

Nothing this faggot does matters

>>748839021
>"regulate video games harder EU!"
>"NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT"

>>748843610
If any version of age-checking gets passed in the US and EU then that is outright going to kill any and all games that rely on microtransactions to survive except for a handful of games that have managed to catch themselves enough adult whales to survive.
At least half of all online spending on media is done by parents because their kids nag them to do it, that includes vidya and since parents won't want to spend cash on something that might end up with them paying FINES for doing so then they are just going to straight up refuse to do so and all accounts that try to trick parents into saving CC/DC info on their accounts is going to be made defacto illegal as that could potentially lead to kids gaining access to things that they shouldn't have according to law so Apple and Google are losing a fuckton of revenue from that alone.

>>748848718
>if they couldn't connect it to which account/service it was for
1. They would be able to connect it. It's for the children.
2. The government would know all your movements and exactly where you are based off just buying a beer.

>>748848779
the megacorps get fucked just as much as indies because Valve for example now has to go back and add verification to CS1.6 or some shit if what is being said ITT is true, which I'm assuming it is

>>748848734
I still fail to see why they would need to legislate little Timmy's fucking MC server, the EU already has all these laws which allow them to search and subpoena people & servers in quite arbitrary ways. They can't "search" a private server outside the EU, which was my point and they can't monitor it all either, especially if the connections are encrypted. Using this in order to create one more way to harass dissidents seems illogical. But then again this whole law seems not born of any kind of logic.
IMO this is just incompetence and politicians not understanding the internet as per usual

>>748849508
Yes I know, hence the "if"

>>748839021
I think having this guy's face associated with gamer's rights is doing serious damage to the movement.

>>748839021
This has already been developing ever since Roblox started enforcing age verification, before that even. With that said, it's being proposed by senile old people who have no idea how the internet works and a lot of this is as enforceable as banning piracy. It kind of sounds like it's making piracy "illegal" again which kind of just sounds redundant and even more retarded

>>748839021
you are literally the people who keep complaining about quickplay in TF2. if this passes then quickplay is your only option and dedicated servers go away.

>>748850248
Anything with any online functionality in general could be affected so I don't understand what you're saying here.

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>>748839021
this affects me... how?

>>748839021
I'm sure it was very smart to bring gayming into the spotlight for the fossils and power tripping sociopaths in the EU
well you got it now so enjoy

>>748850181
>With that said, it's being proposed by senile old people who have no idea how the internet works
Nta but remember that one twitch stream where Skg met with a bunch of EU commission reps, and like virtually all of them were in the group of 25-40s? The "dude it's just old people being old" excuse no longer a viable cope, and people should stop thinking it is, because it's far worse if it turns out this is being spearheaded by the generations that actually do understand how the internet and online communities work and the plan is being thought up mainly by them.

can someone cut through the bs and tell me if private servers are going to become illegal or not? I currently host a private server that links up Dungeon Keeper games in peer2peer.

>>748851024
it's a draft law, hasn't even been voted on.
all you can do is wait for further news if you're in the EU. I don't think this will pass desu.
if you're not in the EU, you probably won't be affected either way.

>>748850974
Keyword "reps". I think the younger people are just parroting whatever they're being told to say, maybe ignorant of the internet themselves. Some of you guys forget that younger normies can be just as retarded with their understanding of how the internet works, especially Gen Z and younger if they only ever know it through phones.

>>748851347
You might be right, but you still need to assume the possibility. That's what the people who were against Skg were trying to tell them in the first place. Assume they are going to be looking for any opportunities, no matter how long of a stretch, to just scapegoat your concerns as justification to fuck you over and push for even worse outcomes only they benefit from.

>>748851624
That's asinine. "Don't do anything, or else the government will awaken and rape you to death". If this was the case, all the corporations lobbying 24/7 would be in big shit.

>>748850974
>10 people who are actually young enough to care about vidya means the entire commission consists of only that age group
Anon...

>>748850338
his thumbnail literally says no private servers. that's what I'm talking about. if this passes then community servers die.

>>748852109
You're arguing with a pooinloo. They've been using the Devil You Know strategy since day 1.

>>748839204
Yeah I would. It's not good but if I want to play a game what am I supposed to do.

>>748852109
>"Don't do anything, or else the government will awaken and rape you to death"
We're at the "You tried to do something and will now be punished for it" stage now. Enjoy getting raped to death while bots and LLMs tell you that's a good thing.

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>>748839204
>Now ask yourself if anyone is.
Most people doxed themselves and got random medical prototypes injected into their arms because of an overhyped cold, Nonny.

>>748852461
>SAAAR THE INDIANS ARE KILLING GAMES MY PLAN WASN'T RETARDED
kekaroo

>>748853032
Always amuses me that the worst insult a pooinloo can come up with is accusing you of being indian. Even they know being from India is a fate worse than hell.

>>748847114
>this is specifically targeting gamers which is IMO too niche
>a much wider net to catch dissidents
Dissension happen mostly online. You are tech-savy enough to launch facebook? You are tech-savy enough to run a Candy Crush private server where you are probably grooming kids. Enjoy your no knock police raid, you filthy non-zionist-cock-sucker.

>>748844545
>Any mention of what course of actions is required if your storefront account is old enough to vote?

Yes - actually. The Kids Act explicitly states that where there is ample evidence to suggest the accountholder is of legal age, the account is grandfathered into being qualified as held by an adult and doesn't require age verification. The account itself being old enough to vote, would qualify - because the Kids Act also states that verification of age only has to happen once and should then be tied to the account as a stored and persisted account setting/signal. I.e. they do not consider an adult verifying a child's account as a realistic scenario to counter.

>>748853220
What at amuses me is the supposed "superpior white chads of the European continent" failing to do the very thing they accuse browns and Africans of doing, which is not having any concept of foresight and retrospect what so ever, and they have the gall to insult lesser races.

>>748846320
Everyone until they've proven they're an adult. Which you never have to prove, because the only thing it accomplishes is that you don't receive unsollicited spam. If you actually WANT to talk to others while playing a game, you only have to confirm that those specific other accounts are allowed to contact you. And games are legally required by the act to offer the UI to do so - also to accounts that have not age-verified as adult.

So there is no reason to ever have to verify your age.
I mean - unless you LIKE receiving unsollicited spam or being cussed at over an open mic?

>>748847220
>im not uploading my id for these fucks
You won't have to because the verification schemes the EU mandates specifically forbid uploading of copies of government IDs. Read before you spout nonsense.

>>748853825
>n-no u!
Concession accepted. Have a shitty night.

SKG is a failed movement.

>>748853220
>SAAAAARRRR I AM SAVING OF THE GAMES

>>748848476
It's non-revocable, and when designing the idea behind the system the EU considered the possibility that someone else will use their ID as a surrogate to give children access to adult-material, an acceptable trade-off and not worth strengthening at the expense of violating privacy with more draconic solutions.

>>748849459
And that would be a good thing. Fuck the predatory gacha maffia.

i don't even understand how anyone can look at the term 'zero knowledge proof' and not laugh their ass off at how much of an oxymoron that is

>>748854827
Women don't understand how words work and unfortunately they're allowed to have a say in ruling things.

>>748840367
>Hello fellow gamers

>>748854827
It isn't an oxymoron at all. A protocol that works with zero-knowledge proof simply means the one party presenting a statement can convince the other party the statement is true without having to share any information beyond the statement's truth. In essence any data transmitted over a certificate-protected HTTPS connection is zero-knowledge proof. You don't need to know where the physical server you are connecting is located. You don't need to know who is actually operating it. You don't need to know their contact or personal data. All you need to know is the certificate is approved.

>>748842326
Prove it. Post your full name, age and address.

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>>748839204
>Ask yourself if you're willing to dox yourself in order to play the latest AAA slop. Now ask yourself if anyone is.
No I wouldn't, but unfortunately there are absolutely people out there who would.

>>748855058
'Zero-knowledge proof' is actual real-world cryptography terminology, anon.
It's not newspeak invented by politicians.

>>748841169
>All your precious info will be leaked "accidentally"
we have a thing in france that can prove your ID to website without having you send a picture of your ID or face, problem is most websites refuses that system and i'm sure it's because the harvested data is more valuable than proving your ID at all.

>>748855127
the problem is you frame this as a two-party transaction when it's simply not true. you're relying on a third party who absolutely has knowledge of what's going on and shouldn't have that knowledge because they will use it for nefarious purposes

>>748840367

Under the current timeline of corporate cuckening, anonymity is not a thing. Because it is unreasonably hard to not be unique, the ID solution doesn't matter too much. The only way to support anonymity for normal people is to share share less data and because western government go-to is to lean on private industry, that's effectively impossible. When the industry get's cowboy enough and the enforcement bill comes due it will be both too late, and the boomers postponing the problem today will be dead.

The real solution to the privacy problem is to ban the buying and selling of personal data.

Also, on that tangential subject. The western subject of not just ignoring how judicial complexity essentially rewards large corporation leads to regulatory and more corporate cuckening. So even if you think Ross is a midwit, the knee-jerk reaction to just unreasonable and barricade this shit is absolutely right.

Another thing is considering how fucking cozy corporate and governments are nowadays, it's completely understandable that people knee-jerk fight against this shit. We laughed at Russia banning VPNs 20 years ago and here we are. The west is speedrunning the authoritarian build, new generations barely cares and barely think WW2 was real.

>>748839021
They'd pass this shit but will block Stop Killing Games. Bullshit.

>>748852754
Toy Chica never said this

>>748839204
>Now ask yourself if anyone is.
Gun&ball gamers exist anon
My brother got mad at me when I refused to give my phone number to play Overwatch 2 with him, a game that he proceeded to stop playing after 2 weeks

>>748839021
>brought games into attention
>now they are even more regulated in worse ways
We did it reddit.

>>748847218
>but the government daddy was supposed to be on our side!! how could this happen!!!11

>>748847218
I'm sure all of the various many major developers and their lobby groups will fight tooth and nail to prevent these new regulations. Just like they did with SKG.

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>>748839794
>>748839204
nigga, 4channers are not normal - even if a lot of normies came here, they are still autists by the standards of modernity and the modern normgroids. I mean I hate /v/tards, and I think they are retarded, but we are talking about retards who tie their shoes and tell the time - impossible for the average normie.
normies are gonna Doxx themselves and be surprised when their info leaks later.

>>748847787
They'll ram it through in a midnight vote that maybe gets a cursory mention in legacy media 3 weeks after the fact like they did with chat control.

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>muh saving kids
I hope they all get raped and killed in that order

I love moloch
I love total government control of communication

>>748839204
What I don't get is the people who act like any service, EVER fucking honors the claim that they delete your submitted data after verification. We have had dozens of data leaks from these retarded organizations that don't practice basic info security that prove they don't delete it. And even for ones that do, they make an "altered" copy then delete your submitted info, essentially lying to you in a way they can defend in court.
These groups are ALL scum. There is no honor among these thieving parasites when valuable human data is at stake.

ITT: People who have not read the act get outraged anyway because they're bored.

>>748839021
Kids been using their families IDs or faked their way through the same shit in Aussie. This is useless to protect kids.
Meanwhile adults have to be under their monitoring now. Fucking moronic nanny states.

>>748859104
>Meanwhile adults have to be under their monitoring now.
That's the point. Sorry you had to find out this way.