Switch just got buckbroken. Switch 2 is next. By spring next year we'll be able to run all games on potato PCs.
@NINTENDO @FBI @MOSSAD @REALDONALDTRUMP
>PS5 emulation making crazy progress>Switch 2 emulation will likely go the same route>Xbox has given up on a dedicated console experienceAre we actually witnessing the end of consoles?
>>748856821AI is unironically going to kill consoles at this rate, and possibly the entire AAA industry because some Chinaman will just use AI to recreate the latest AAAslop and post it online for free.
>>748856651What's the last emulated Nintendo game you played through? Or are you starting a fight you have no stake in?
>>748856821>>748856913lol PC vegans are so fucking delusional they think people will spend $5k to play the same games they did on console. PC is literally dying
>>748856913https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.10465Sorry senpai, they've discovered the mathematical limit of LLM scaling, and we've basically reached it. We'll never get past the slop phase.
>>748856821let's see who between console and personal computing, above a toaster, will die first
>>748857102Doesn't that mean that people are wasting trillions of dollars on data centers right now?
I am for ports and shit but thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgcneAuDi5ois hilarious when it lags bad in the video and the comment section is just full of spic kids lol
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>>748857018>>748857121I ask a benign question and you people just can't help but seethe on behalf of a company that doesn't even care about you. Sad.
>>748857298thats tendie life
>>748856651Why can't I get fucking The Darkness from 360 natively on PC? Not some gay ass Switch games
>>748859518https://youtu.be/qUhQVUDWoGY?si=L0KtD8co3vDXQ7Gqis it not out?
>run natively >emulation These are mutually exclusive. Which is it?
>>748857102I have doubts but that's what I've been hoping for.
>>748860078Anon weren't you listening? This is a miracle breakthrough, not one of those cheapo AI deals.
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>>748856651there is no way this is right. someone explain to me what the fuck is going on.
>>748856745kek
>>748860249It's LLM meme that will break your pc ignore
>>748856651Holy fuck, Tendies on deathwatch.
>>748860258I didn't want to reply to it, but that's the first basedjak use in a while that got a chuckle out of me.
>>748856651They still need to break the switch 2 protection first Then the floodgates will be open
>>748860289Is that some kind of ligma joke?
>>748860078>>748860249A specific fork of the Yuzu emulator is able to recompile a Switch game to x86 code, so your PC's CPU runs it directly instead of emulating the Switch's CPU. Meaning: an emulator now runs your Switch games natively.
I like how the game used in OP's pic is one that already has a pc version.
>>748860457That's... impressive.
>>748860457i thought the nintendo ninjas got all the yuzu forks
>>748860457How slow does that work? I imagine you need to convert the ROM entirely for it to work.
>>748856821The only way consoles will die out is if emulation becomes popular on iPhones/android phones. As long as the 500$ tier phones can emulate dolphin or pcsx2 it should be enough. I think at this point it's a matter of ignorance from normies.
>>748857298To a tendie, the greatest joy is when their friends make money. If you threaten Nintendos bottom line you’re also threatening the tendie’s happiness.
>>748860457Doesn't this mean switch games will run better on PC
>>748860649Switch games already run "natively" on phones because it's the same architecture. Only the dying millennial generation cares about emulation.
>>748860457Static recompilation is not native.
>>748856651NOOOOOOOOOOOOSTOP IT!!!!STOP USING AI!!!!STOP IT RIGHT THIS INSTANT! PAY US WHAT WE'RE WORTH!!!!!STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!
>>748860754Yes.As in, EVEN better than with emulation, which already overdid native performance and visuals over half a decade ago.
>EMULATING THE SWITCH AND SWITCH 2YOU CAN REALLY SEE THESE PEOPLE ARENT REAL BECAUSE NO CONSCIOUS, SANE, OR REAL PERSON WOULD VOLUNATIRLY MAKE AN EMULATION FOR THE SWITCH 1 OR 2THEY MUST BE COERCED BY DEMONS TO MAKE THEM LITERALLY PLEBBIT EMULATIONS
>>748860894Why not?
>>748861002*ring ring*
I still think playing PS5 games natively is more impressive in the other thread. Even a steam deck can play switch 1 games. AI really is going to kill the gayming industry. It would be sad if not hilarious.
>>748861002It's just paying the price of translation up front instead of incrementally. You're still translating a binary of a different architecture.
>>748857102I'm not reading all that
>>748860818Yes but that's because millennials know better. They know games used to be good. This doesn't happen with movies because they are easily accessible from streaming sites like Netflix and constantly referenced/talk about.
>>748860249consoles getting raped and gaped
Does that mean my dogshit hardware that had problems emulating some switch games can now run at full speed? Because I might try it later. I'm not building a new PC...
>>748861142Disingenuous clanker trying to cover his ass.
>>748861261It means you get to sit there for thirty minutes waiting for the game to precompile and it'll run 25% better.
>>748861261Most likely yes.Also, you really need to have shoddy hardware to not run Shietch games at least at their native low-res 30fps these days. This was 3 years ago, and made the big N seethe.
>>748861324I thought it would convert the ROM to a x86 binary. If it's converting before running the game then it's a waste of time.
>>748861340God, that game is so fucking ugly.
>>748861340I have a decade old CPU but most games run fine some of them are not full speed though.
>>748860527That's not possible, it was open source. It's out on the internet forever and people will keep forking it because it's not illegal to make it.
>>748860527Hahahaha.Not how the hydra works, buddy. eden is alive and well.
>>748861275So answer the question then humey
>>748861497Eden is a really gay name.
That would be pretty funny if native ports just became the new thing. I've always loved emulation, but it's always been a brute force approach to playing your old games. The idea of native ports has so much potential.
>>748861050moshi moshi>>748861125Yeah but isn't it effectively a native port by that point? From what I understand it decompiles to an unhelpful C or C equivalent source code then compiles that source but targeting x86 PC instead. Which doesn't seem too different than having the actual source code but porting it to PC.
>>748861540It's literally in the paper:>Assuming our explanation of width scaling is correct, we ask can we change the loss scalingwith width to be faster than power laws, or to have larger exponents? The answer is nofor natural languages but may be yes for domain tasks with super skewed feature frequencies.Another question is when the scaling law will stop? Based on our naive connection betweenfeatures and tokens, the answer is that when the model dimension reaches the vocabulary size,the loss limited by width will deviate from a power law and vanish. However, the vocabularysize may set a lower bound for the true number of independent things in language, then thepower law with width may continue for a longer time.
>>748860527Anon even I have a fork. Anyone whoever accidentally clicked download on the repo because they thought they were downloading the emulator has a fork.
>>748856821Not when PC's still cost a mortgage deposit
>>748861686You're a nigger.
>>748861607It's just converting to a x86 architecture. It will run as well as on Android that is also ARM.
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>>748856745REMEMBERTHE HONEYPOT CANNOT BE ERASED
>>748857298You're question is genuine retardation if you think consoles are dying when literally PC is dying
>>748862027>You're questionSay no more Rajj, I've heard enough. You can't even afford a Huawei phone, let alone whatever console you're shilling here.
>>748861710In English?
>>748862097>you made a spelling mistake so now I'll whine about Indians from now onlol can't refute PC is dying so goes to his scapegoat
ITT: anons that don’t understand how things work
>>748856821No because consoles still cost less upfront, and PC still doesn't have any new, must-have exclusives.
>>748860457This is an AI generated response and the poster made $5.00 for it btw.
>>748856651Can't wait for PC Mario Kart and Smash lobbies.
>>748856745K W A B O T YWABOTY
>>748862501In the most simple terms:Prior research has shown that scaling LLMs is GOOD. Which is why we saw the progress over the last 3 years. Up until recently people assumed we could just keep scaling like that. But now people figured out that there's a point where shit will start to fall apart. There's some cope to prolong the growth, but we're basically guaranteed to never get to super intelligence with the current tech framework.
>>748862717SAARSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>748862027if pc is dying why did capcom say that the majority of their profits is from pc
the only switch game i want to play is astral chain let me know when its 60fps
>>748857018pc will never die because they actually do useful things besides playing every console game ever for free.
>>748861092>I still think playing PS5 games natively is more impressive in the other threadIt's less impressive. PS5 is LESS removed from a Windows PC than a Switch.People don't understand modern emulation at all. No one emulates actual hardware behavior anymore because it's too costly and pointless. Most systems since like PS1 is emulated through a variety of high level translation layers. PS5 is basically already an x86-64 computer with some asterisks. Switch is an ARM-based system with a custom GPU but what emulators do is still just high-level translation. All these AI recomps do is take that process and push it from runtime into a premade executable, but because it's AI slop it often doesn't even win performance.
>>748862510>More ESL babbleNigger, you didn't make a single spelling mistake, you've made multiple mistakes. Your entire reply is esl babble. You are Indian. I won't even ask you to post hand because you'll just ask chatgeepity to do it for you.
>>748862804>majority of their profitsThey didn't, they said "sales" which includes 20 year olds games on sale for $3. 10 million sales at $3 is more sales than 1 million sales at $70 but the 1 million sales is more profit
>>748862871PS5 is a current gen console while we already had switch emulators. That's what I mean with impressive.
Why are AI companies the only ones immune to copyright? Seems like that's proof they basically run the world now, more power than even the American government.
>>748859518>>748859612These are the important games, same as Condemned 2 for example, games that were left behind on the fucking 360
>bro is still obsessed with Indians cause he got BTFO by facts lol
>>748856821>Are we actually witnessing the end of consoles?If you lose consoles you would lose the games you are emulating, don't be retarded.
>>748857018>$5kYou sure as shit won't need a $5k box to play a Shitch game, lmfao. They're the graphical equivalent of a PS2 game.
>>748862576I know how things work. Fire orb come up from sky and give heat and hay for horses. White powder come from crying sky and give harshness and punishment
>>748856821I think gaming is dying in general. Film and TV too. It will become a niche hobby again. Seems like doomscrolling is what people like to do in their spare time these days.
>>748856821im a consolefag myself but ID verification will be what gets me to stop.
>>748863006???It'd mean you no longer need to emulate them because they're native
>>748856651Looked into this.Apparently the Suyu fork introduced pre-compiled CPU instructions, so graphics and other bits are still emulated.It's not the favored Yuzu forks like Citron NEO or Eden doing this either, but I'm curious what they'll do.Switch games run superbly on ARM devices already too.
>>748862945If you had the support of Israel and billions of dollars that was stolen from goyim in your pocket you would be immune too
>>748862717Oh, so my picture was accurate, they don't know when. Thanks humie, very enlightening.
>>748863923NTA but you couldn't possibly a bigger clown. YOUR OWN FUCKING AI IS TELLING YOU THAT THIS IS IN THE FUCKING PAPER. READ NIGGER.
>>748857258lel
>>748856651>Switch 2 is nextTwo more weeks, right?
>>748864794AIfags are the worst. They don't read shit but instead ask their clanker a loaded question, priming it to reject it and then don't even read that and then smugly tell you that they were right.
SAAR I USE AI TO HIDE EMULATOR NATIVE PORT SAAR
>>748856821What's the point of PS5 emulation?How could it even be hard to "emulate" when its essentially just a laptop PC?
>>748857204No because we've needed to upgrade our infrastructure for two decades. It's no more a waste to build more data centers than it is to build more roads or power plants (of which we also should be building more of).
>>748864794>>748865019Nigel we already knew there was a scaling limit and it's somewhere between today and when we run out of sand on planet Earth so what does your study say that's actually new?>a limit existsGROUNDBREAKING
>>748856651isn't that system shock remake?what does that have to do with 'tendo
>>748865108>What's the point of PS5 emulation?yeah wtf. PS4 at least had Bloodborne, but the PS5 has fucking what? A demake, and a platformer that feels like an ad. Lmfao
>>748863071the consolefags always make up the most obsene prices when arguing against pc
>>748856651Ok, when can I play TotK on my PC without the emulator? Last time I tried it still ran kinda shitty.
>nativelyfucking buzzword, fuck youbut I saw one with infamous second son so that's cool I guess...
>>748865686It was released for Switch.Physically.
I see the snoys are in full on nuclear meltdown because GTA6 will be running natively on PC day one
>>748866272Any console being broken wide open like this is a good thing.
>hourly snoyjeet cope thread
ok but what fork? i want to try it out. dont know or care what these retarded console wars in the replies are about.
I wonder if lawsuits from sony, rockstar, or nintendo would start if we saw recomps of stuff like gta vi or the oot demake shortly after their release
>>748866827One anon said it was suyu
>>748866948thanks
>>748856651link?
>>748856821they're kinda pointless honestly. when was the last time they even had better performance?
>>748857102thank goodness I can keep my goyslave job
>>748866272You delusional if you think that will be possible
>>748867213They want revenge for Totk leaking two weeks early. I swear to god that’s what it boils down to.
>>748863071my 6gb 2060 was emulating switch games at 60 fps without issue on yuzu
>>748867213PS5 games are already running natively on PC
>>748857204Yes lmao. The whole scam is about to implode.
>>748867486And that makes you think you can play GTA6 day one because......
>>748856821please god yes let the us have a end to /v/ already
>>748856821PS5 emulation is going so fast because its just a copy paste job of the PS4 and the hacks that keep happening to sony ended up leaking important shit switch 2 still has no exploit so you'll be waiting years
>>748856821there's no point in owning a consolethe switch 2 is weak and overpricedi'm not paying $500 for a handheld that is only good for playing first party games, which cost $80the games i wanna play are all coming to pc anyway
>>748867861Another PC VEGAN in denial
>>748856651You mean to tell me i can play all xenoblades uncensored and fan-translated with no performance issues and 60fps now?
>>748868034another tendiebrown seething behind my back, utterly incapable of convincing me to buy his dogshit overpriced brick
>>748856821The combination of AI reverse engineering and sustained higher hardware prices will probably destroy the console market yes. Obviously the hardware pricing of all consumer electronics is getting fucked right now but I think it hurts consoles more as spending that much on a locked down toy seems ridiculous, whereas PCs are more general purpose devices that many already need for work and such.
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>>748856821God I hope so. There's no reason for them to exist anymore, no exclusive gimmicks or impressive hardware. No reason to own one.
>>748856821>Are we actually witnessing the end of consoles?Not really. I'm not a consolefag and don't give a shit about consoles and the faster it dies the better, but you're missing the main selling point of consoles: being simple to use for normies. And in case of Nintendo in particular kids and women as well. Your average 5 year old isn't fucking with emulators to play Pokemon (I did when I was a kid, but most kids I knew didn't even know about emulators).If consoles die, it isn't really because of PCs can emulate all their games, but because phones/tablets are being even easier to use and more appealing to kids and women and normies in general.
>>748868387the way it looks like the hand was copy pasted in is freaking me out
>>748868703What You know that valve has a real chance to do that, right?They're continuously working on steam big picture and seamless controller support
>>748856651Hey hey, nice. Dread natively on PC would be cool, let alone Ravenous.
>>748856821Yes. Everything is censored and watered down trash for the masses and the PC is the only place left to fix it thanks to modders and fans. This isnt the ps1 era where games had pantyshots in Chrono Cross anymore. This is now the ps5 era where Tifa's chest had to be restricted because of an ethics department.
>>748856821Yes. PS6 will be the last console. A new age of PC gaming is upon us.
>PC autist still responding to himselflol
>>748859612>mouselook>different framerate caps>settings menu looks like a pc game
>>748856651Switch 2 is uncrackable from what I've read, but AI is near a singularity at this point so who knows?
>>748856651oof...
