I am going to laugh so hard if this flops.
Y'know what? Fuck it, I like it. Kind of a mishmash of various FF game components. Not great, not terrible, but enjoyable.
>>748869240why?
>>748868794I was disappointed in the demo.I want turn-based unc slop, but this was mostly a lot of "memberberries" the rpg. The characters/story were not compelling of what we saw.
>>748868794>repurposed gacha sludgeMiss me with that shit.
>>748868794They're going back to the old gameplay but completely missing what was special about the old gamesIt comes off as a dollar store version of FF
>>748869240I wonder who the TB uncs would blame if that happened.
>>748868794>FF uncslop corekek
>>748868794No idea what this is but I clicked on it because the girl is hotWill it have the same tactical depth as Fire Emblem Engage/XCOM 2 Long War of the Chosen/Pathfinder 2e? Otherwise, I don't particularly care.
>>748870394it's a singleplayer remake of a gachaslop where you summon characters from the real FF games to fight for you
>>748869240pretty unlikely, square cooked with this one
>>748868794It's literally gatchaslop
>>748870394The demo is like 5 gigs. Just try it out dor yourself.
>>748869240Its got basically no budget. If it sells even half decently it will be more profitable than 7R3.
>>748868794The demo was nice. Should be a pretty fun game. Nice to have a good class based old school style game to play.
>>748868794They got that hot bitch on the box?
just post new jiggling vids/gifs
>>748868794Why this game gets so much and very aggressive shitposting? Octopath Traveler never got this and that was "turn based".
>>748869257because turn based fags have been begging for a turn based FF since X
>>748868794>press X and Cloud appears>press X again and Squall appears>press X once more and Gilgamesh appears>press X a last time and the enemy dies >ZOMG DEM CUTSCENCES IM GONNA COOMI can't stomach this shit, but Uncle McUnckleface will probably love it.
>>748869240The budget is super low. I would be profitable even if SE only sold 200K copies.
>>748870960eh they got Expedition 33 which proves it can still workThis game just looks shitty, it'd be shitty with action combat too.
>>748869240why
Boobs,+
>>748871151e33 is parry slop wearing a turn based games skin
>>748869302uncslop don't need a compelling story so what the fuck are you complaining about? Oh no it has 3D special attack cutscenes kill yourself my man
>>748871316your post has nothing to do with what that said you retard. or possibly a bot
>>748868794Gacha game port, no thanks
>>748871151No, you don't get it, they want turn based FINAL FANTASY, and have been begging for 2 decades. And when Resonance inevitably flops, they will do every kind of mental gymnastics not to accept their insignificance.
>>748873363but this doesn't carry the qualities of classic mainline Final Fantasy at all outside of being turn basedE33 is closer to FF than this is by a long shot.
>>748869240every single hd2d game sells at least 1 million, even live a live didthey're profitable unlike ff16 and ff7 rebirth
>>748873363>FF turn based chads have been clamoring for a rpgmaker budget makeEat a dick.
Best possible fighting game roster, max 3 per game:>Fighter, Thief, Kary>Firion, Minwu (Aerith alt), Mateus (Tellah alt)>Onion Knight, Xande (Seymour alt), Cloud of Darkness (Necron alt)>Cecil, Rydia (Yuna alt), Rubicante>Bartz (Lenna, Galuf, Faris alts), Gilgamesh, Exdeath (Golbez alt)>Terra (Red Mage alt), Ultros (Kraken alt), Kefka>Cloud (Zack alt), Tifa (Zell alt), Sephiroth>Squall, Quistis, Ultimecia (Rinoa alt)>Zidane, Beatrix (General Leo alt), Kuja (Lich alt)>Tidus, Lulu (Black Mage alt), Auron>Vaan (Reks alt), Fran (Serah alt), Vayne (Monk alt)>Lightning, Snow (Yang alt), Sazh>Noctis (Ardyn alt), Gladiolus (Jecht alt), Areanea (Kain alt)>Clive, Jill (Celes alt), Ultima>Spinoffs: Ramza (Marche alt), Jack (Garland alt)
>>748871202This board has a lot of schizophrenic, mentally unwell posters associated with the Square Enix brand.
>>748868794The game is shit. Its a gacha mobile game LMAO. Then again you tards have been shitting and crying yourselves for 20 years waiting for FF to be back so I guess this is all you got.
>>748871010This ugly nigger hasn't even seen a trailer, and thinks his dumbfuck post means anything.
>>748874004No Sabin in a traditional 2D Fighting Game is full blaspheme.
>>748874450>Its a gacha mobile game LMAOshould be right up /v/'s alley then
>>748874450Show me footage of a gacha pull being performed in Resonance.
>failed gacha being sold for $40>people praise it as the second coming of christsquarecucks deserve to be made fun of
Something I realized recently is that 2 is the only game without a chosen one/magic blood character. Everyone in 1, 3, 5, and 13 are chosen ones, Cecil, Terra, Aerith, Rinoa, Zidane, Tidus, Ashe, and Noctis all have magic blood, and Clive is both magic blood and the chosen one. Only 2 is an exception, unless I'm forgetting someone.
>>748873363World of Final Fantasy already exists. What we want is something AAA with a ton of craft put into it. A mainline entry.
>Persona does TB combat with some flair and presentation>Continues to sell millions>FF finally does TB combat>Its a mobile game ported to PC that looks like shit and is extremely low effort quality Lmao.
>>748874979People play persona so they can date high schoolers, the combat is optional.
>>748874707You forgot to mention how it's not actually the gacha at all and has a different combat system and full world exploration like a traditional FF.
>>748874979>Persona V>Dragon Quest 11>Expedition 33>Like A Dragonand not a JRPG but Baldurs Gate 3 is turn based though leans more into strategyLegitimately some of the biggest games of the last decadeSquare is so fucking incompetent and lazy
>>748875262DQ11 is square-enix but yea they're retards when it comes to Final Fantasy
>>748875229>it's not actually the gacha at all
>>748873363Reminds me of how Zelda fags ignore Echoes of Wisdom.
What even is the gameplay of Resonance? I don't know anything about it, but I saw Terra in a battle, so I assume it's a gacha where you play as characters who summon the real games' characters?
>>748875361Retard.
>>748875395Except they had A Link Between Worlds and Link's Awakening remake and both are belovedEchoes of Wisdom is barely a zelda game and is doing things nobody asked for
>>748874126Yep, and he's spamming this thread right now with the exact same 'gachaslop, memberberries' etc. verbiage as usual.
>>748875489>everyone is the same person
>>748875443>Echoes of Wisdom is barely a zelda game and is doing things nobody asked forIt's just a classic Zelda tho.
Gaymers will finally know how absolutely abysmal BE story is.
>>748875525its literally trying to adapt BOTW design philosophy to 2D zeldait has nothing in common with classic zelda
>>748875602>it has nothing in common with classic zeldaExcept the map from ALttP (again)And the dungeonsAnd the dungeon itemsBut yeah basically nothing in common with classic Zelda except for the whole game
>>748868794Take gacha and removed fanservice which was already low and said it's new game. Stop giving square enix money they need to be raped so hard to get better or die.
Are the gacha elements still in there? Like for gear and characters. I unironically would enjoy a F2P single player version of the game like collecting the unique blades in xenoblade 2 with farmable currency
>>748875626the entire game is based around spawning items to solve things "your own way"find me the classic zelda where solutions to puzzles is spawning in beds and stacking them on top of each other like a retard
I want a turn-based Final Fantasy but it has to have realistic state of the art 3D graphics and 300 hours of content but also cost $20 and be developed in 1 year. Anything less than that and I don't buy, simple as.
>>748875626this screen is how you solve most puzzles in the game and you wanna act like its not trying to be BOTW/TotK?
>>748874563Sabin sucks
>>748868794I checked out the demo and while it looks nice the MC english VA is abysmal
>>748875519Fuck you, Barry.
>>748876867This.
>>748869240it really needs to be a diaster to be a flop, i mean, the whole setting and plot are recycled, the budget shouldn't be that high
>>748869240Go for it. I'll already have what I want by then so I don't care what you do.
People meant they want Clair Obscur, not literal 1990s 2D SNES graphicsNow it will sell like shit and then the retarded 80yo Japanese businessmen making decisions at Square Enix will go "see? no wonnu wantu turnu basedu"
>>748870798Demo stops at chapter 1. Can't get new webms until the game is out.
>>748878967>literal 1990s 2D SNES graphicsif they made something at the quality of FF6 or Chrono Trigger people would eat this up tooThey don't even get that part right
>>748878967>peopel want realismslopnah
>>748873363The next cope is that the game was supposed to be a turn-based NUMBERED entry with a gorillion dollar budget and that they won't accept anything but classic FF style with swords and sorcery, towns, and job classes.
Visions when?
>>748878967>not literal 1990s 2D SNES graphicsNo, that is what I want. Don't pretend you speak for me, normgroid.
>>748870867Octopath was shit and this is a turn BASED Final Fantasy
>>748875436Those characters are equipment It's a classic old jrpg game that was a gacha, now they remade it as a single player game and rearranged the story
>>748878967They want FF with cool graphics and TBThey should just do like trails 1st and combine both
>>748871297It's a honest parry slop with honestly telegraphed attacks with consistent animations and audio ques. Please don't put it in same camp as fromsoft cancer.
>>748880061e33slop even more cancerous parryslop then fromslop
>>748874004>Ultimecia (Rinoa alt)Kill yourself twice over.
>>748878967Ok so where are the E33 clones? Where is E33 sequel? Since apparently making tb games with realistic graphics is so easy why aren't more people doing it?
>>748878967I don't want clear obscure, I want Legend of Legaia
>>748875436They act like espers. You can equip them, which allows you to use their skills and level up their passives. Then when you get a big stagger, you can use the limit burst of Terra or WoL or whoever it is you have equipped as your finisher.
I'm concerned about the length of this gameNot sure why they decided to adapt just part of the gacha's story
It will probably be one of the better performing HD-2D games just or having Final Fantasy in the title.
>>748880545The demo only had 1 chapter and took 6-7 hours to complete. It'll be fine.Hopefully.
>>748868794This is the best FF of the last 20 years.
>>748879273>if they made something at the quality of FF6 or Chrono Trigger people would eat this up too>They don't even get that part rightBut that's FF resonance
>>748881140No but we all want something that's not Resonance and because of Resonance being a gigaflop because it's what nobody wants now we'll never get the different thing we want
>>748881240And what is it that we want?
>>748881323Turn based Final Fantasy game but not one that's Resonance and Square knew that. They're giving all the things we asked for but in a way that we don't want to justify never giving us what we aks for again.
>>748881071That's SoP
I wish all you zoomniggers would hurry up and troon out and kill yourselves already. Everything is fucking slop to you niggers, cuz you're little faggot pig retards who don't know shit about fuck. Everything is ironic with you broccoli cut fucks
>>748881445>actionslop
>>748881538Hell yeah, it's fuckin sweet
Why don't zoomers like turnbased combat?
>>748881838There isn't a single turn based combat system that is interesting, let alone challenging. Even the most braindead action game has more depth and higher levels of strategic risk than a turn based game.A Turn based game with level up mechanics is a gay grinding game.A Turn based game without levels is a gay puzzle game of moving in the optimal order.
>>748881838too many words
>>748868794Careful OP, you might trigger the FF7 schizo
>>748881838They like it but in gacha
Sell me on this game.I've not finished any FF except 1 and the 7 remakes.
>>748882941>Sell me on this gameNoPlay the demo for yourself if you want to be convinced of something
>>748883027I don't play video-games.
>>748883040FF1 was a video gameDon't try to pull any "I said video gameS, I'm allowed one" shit with me
>>748882409Play an 80s CRPG
>Ugly HD-2D game>Staggering in my fucking turn based gameSquare Enix cannot make a good turn based game anymore.
>>748883080Fine, you win, I'll play it
>>748883228Cool, enjoy the qt titty witch
>>748869240this has more soul than any AAA slop square has produced in the last 20 yrs, with that being said it will most likely flop but that doesnt mean it wont be a good game
Turn-based FF is greatNo not THAT turn-based FF, the other turn-based FF
>>748878967no I literally mean I want the SNES graphics, not whatever this ugly abomination is
i preordered it i thought the demo was fun despite the story seeming to be bland
I'm glad uncs never get what they want.
>>748888824Why? This game is what I want?
>>748888824My entire life has been a string of mostly getting what I want with little to no effortIt's been good
>>748881838Because it is repetitive. I have played most of the FF pixel remasters and the combat is easily the worst aspect. All you fucking do is press the X button the entire time. The games would be unplayable if not for a fast forward button.
>>748882941This is more of FF1, but with super duper cutscenes when Cloud appears. That is what uncs truly care about, I guess.
>>748889405>All you fucking do is press the X button the entire timeDo yourself a favour and don't pay attention to how repetitive your button presses really are in every game ever
>>748883027Okay. Sell me the demo then. Why should I waste my time to download and play it?
>>748889537>Sell me the demo thenNoGo play it if you want, I don't care either way
the voice acting sucksshould have just been text based
>>748889405The secret to being good at classic Final Fantasy was grinding and exploring for good gear. That combat was always shit. Only some boss fights ever provided any challenge.Now you know why FF became such a cutscene and narrative heavy series. Story beats were the only way to motivate the player to press on.
Turn BASED, am I right my fellow based and redpilled gigachads? Elliot was a massive smash hit and “the next Final Fantasy” and this will be even better. GOTY?
>>748875762And this is how you solve most puzzles in A Link to the Past. Your point? Of all the actually legitimate differences between Echoes of Wisdom and the classic games, you chose to get upset at and focus and the oddest of things.
Anyone seething about turn based gameplay in FF is a 16cuck of 7R jeet.
>>748890218Dirge of CerberusCHAD actually
>>748888415why preorder, it's not as if they'll run out
>>748890315If your mind is already made up about buying it then why not?
>>748868794>here look we are making a turn based game like everyone wants>$200 budget gacha game>dogshit hd2d visualst-thanks
>>748890392because it's a bad practice
>>748890468What's so bad about it
FF is a dead IP and needs to go away.
>>748890503quick cash in based off of a promise/concept rather than a finished product, there is no other reason to do it considering supply cannot run out
Turn based games have won GOTY twice in the past 3 years
>>748873363>When it flopsBut I, Chuddah incarnate, boughted though
Played FF1 Pixel while waiting for this. Also about 2/3rds the way through 2. IDK If I'll play 3 since I beat that on DS a decade ago.
>>748890315I use a cd key selling site so it’s like $5 cheaper if you preorder it and I’m gonna get it anyway so might as well preorder
>>748868794FULL PRICE MOBILESHIT THAT DOESN'T COME OUT FOR MOBILE IS THE FUTURE
>>7488907632008 was not a decade ago, unc.
>>748890604With 0 hurdles to getting that money back should you need it is literally no different to buying the game on release day with the exception of any bonuses which are rarely anything worth caring about but are technically an added positiveIf it was some crowdfunding shit where the game can never materialise and you're just shit out of luck then you would have a point
>>748890794DSs were still operational a decade ago
>>748873363>they will do every kind of mental gymnastics not to accept their insignificance.Why would any kind of mental gymnastics be needed? If the game flops, it'll be because Square Enix spent two decades squandering Final Fantasy and ruining the brand and the brand identity. Resulting in old fans either growing out of love with Final Fantasy, or falling out of videogames entirely. And it's no secret that SE have been struggling immensely with amassing new, young FF fans to replace the old fans that they've been bleeding. But hopefully there are still enough of us left to make FF Resonance a success. Expedition 33 was pretty successful. It suggests a decent amount of us might still exist but we'll see. Especially considering how the Octopath audience is decently sizeable.
>>748891104I really don't see why people bitch about these visuals so much
>>748891187Contrarianism
All profits are going to fund FF7R DLC. Thanks for the cash, uncs. <3
>>748891282why would she dress like this and go to a convention full of horny japs?
>Plague tale resonance>Control resonant>FF resonancewhat's going on?
>>748891381Would resonance be too obvious an answer?
>>748868794Pirate bros, how are we gonna play this?
>>748891423>Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamperYou will be waiting...
>>748891423just buy it :)
>>748870960No one begged for 2DHD shit, so of course it will sell 1~2 million tops.
>>748868794>Kitajimawill pre-order
>Square Enix adds some cool features to keep the combat fresh and interesting>Uncs complain because tactics and strategy would distract from the mindless x button smashingWhy are they like this?
>>748891423It's gonna release for switch. Anyway I thought its gonna release tomorrow and not in 3 fucking weeks for some reason. Big yawn. I'm outta here.
>>748870482>gachaslop>has no gacha or micro transactions in itYou faggots love your gay little buzzwords don’t you?
>>748871010>t. Dustborn top fanThe demo had lots of sparkly flashy cutscenes which you zoomies love.
>>748891282FF Resonance is just a neat little side project for SE. We all know which game is getting true love.
>>748891661why dont you ask your boyfriend on the steam forums instead of reposting it here?
>>748891661>since 15Stagger had been a focus for most of a decade before 15 came out
>>748891768they're both nostalgia bait for boomies
>>748873363>>748891104>Unreal engine 3D backgrounds>Those sprites>Was a gacha game that went EoS and reworked it as a fucking $50 gameYeah, Final Fantasy fags didn't beg for such a dogshit looking turn-based game, I'll tell you that much. Remember when Final Fantasy was known for having cutting edge CGI, music, storytelling and made 3D turn-based such a big deal on Playstation that it became THE JRPG console with so many good games inspired by Final Fantasy 7 and onwards? What the fuck does this former gacha provide for the average FF fan? Nothing unless you're a delusional retard with zero standards. At least demake fags are happy with their FF7 slop and know what they want, this one I see zero, and I mean ZERO appeal. This is just Square Enix using the brand to make an overpriced dogshit looking game and morons with zero taste or consoomers just eat it up like it's nothing.
>>748868794All I want is for it to let me grind and watch numbers go up while collecting various characters from the series. I'm pretty much gonna treat it like Final Fantasymon.
>>748891187Can't you see the clash between the 2D sprites and the UE 3D visuals? This shit worked on the PS1, but not nowadays.
>>748891661i dont mind stagger but it shouldnt be in turn based imoit would fit really well in ATB games like X-2 where you would have to coordinate attacks to build the gauge and it could deplete over time if you dont apply pressure
>>748891187It is easily the best looking hd2d game.
>>748891832Way to tacitly admit that you find appeal in the Remake trilogy, dipshit
>>748891929I liked it on PS1 and I still like it today.
>>748891832What pisses me off the most is their stupid thought of 'you know what the pretty successful octopath games really need? the final fantasy name!' And then they do this self-referential garbage and extreme onion boys pog their shit out.DELETE FINAL FANTASY ITS GARBAGE
>>748869240This game most likely costed no more than $30 million to develop. It would only need to sell like a million to make its return back.
>>748891929It looks fine. The only issue is the jarring 3DCG when using the Vision's cutscene attacks
>>748891965I think the 7 demake trilogy was a mistake, but I at least liked SOME aspect of it like the gameplay and they should put that in a mainline entry. My biggest problem is everything outside of that. They even put the fucking stagger system in resonance, in a fucking turn based game...Fucking why?
>>748891929> it doesn't work because I said soJeet
>>748891832>>Was a gachaThis is disingenuous. Resonance is not Brave Exvius. And I really wonder why you're pushing the idea that it is so hard, just because the former is borrowing parts of the assets and story of the latter. They do not play the same at all.
i am buying y'shtolas game
>>748892084Because he's a shitposter that doesn't play video games. If Resonance was made 100% from scratch he'd pull some other make believe shit out of his ass to claim it bad instead. Shitposters do not care about logic or reasoning. They only work on mental gymnastics.
>>748868794
>>748892075>and they should put that in a mainline entryI already thought you were retarded from the whole "I don't like it so how can anyone?" shit but good god you just had to make sure it didn't go over anybody's head
>>748891661Staggering is literally one of the coolest features added to FF. Why don't these morons just admit that they hate combat?
>>748892084It was a failed gacha. What the fuck is so hard to understand here? It's a shirty recycling job. Get real you retard.
>>748892262You hate combat. Nothing about a stagger mechanic is fun or engaging for combat. You need to hate gameplay to like that trash.
>>748892084>Resonance is not Brave Exvius.Oh yeah? What is it then? It only just has the story and characters from Brave Exvius and clearly from the fucking gacha?>And I really wonder why you're pushing the idea that it is so hard, just because the former is borrowing parts of the assets and story of the latter. >just because the former is borrowing parts of the assets and story of the latter.>They do not play the same at all.Why couldn't Square just make an entirely brand new game and setting instead of using the gacha shit? >>748892195>Because he's a shitposter that doesn't play video gamesThis is the only defense you dumb niggers have for everything, just like the retarded demake fags. FF fans are genuine cattle.
>>748892273Ok. But Resonance is not a gacha at all. And it doesn't play like Exvius. >>748892309>Oh yeah? What is it then?A largely original game that borrows assets and story parts. You might as well claim that Dark Souls 2 is Dark Souls 1 or that Majora's Mask is Ocarina of Time.
>>7488911872.5D can be done well but here it's not, at which point why not just use vector art sprites?
>>748892273>What the fuck is so hard to understand here?Evidently the fact that they reworked it fundamentally into a single player game that reuses the gacha's story and characters such that they aren't lost with that version being deadI can't see why it's somehow an issue unless you were a whale for the gacha and feel cheated about having to buy a copy now
>>748892382>Uhhhmm acschhhuallyShut the fuck up you hairsplitting faggot
>>748892382>A largely original game that borrows assets and story parts.So it's a remake of the gacha that heavily borrows these elements to begin with, just like the 7 demake.>You might as well claim that Dark Souls 2 is Dark Souls 1 or that Majora's Mask is Ocarina of TimeRetard.
>>748891832>Remember when Final Fantasy was known for having cutting edge CGI, music, storytelling and made 3D turn-basedI do remember that. I also remember how the best Final Fantasy was made back on the SNES before any of that.
Imagine being this butthurt over the existence of Final Fantasy Resonance of all things
>>748892475>Retard.I'm not the one suggesting that Resonance plays like Brave Exvius.
>>748892475>So it's a remake of the gachaPretty much, yeah.
>>748891832
>>748892597Squaresoft was pushing boundaries on the SNES.
>>748892475>just like the 7 demake.FF7R is more similar to FF7 than Resonance is to FFBE.
>>748892309Notice how he types up all this seethe and yet there's not a single argument to be found. Literally just bad because I said so.
>>748892696But it's not pushing the boundaries of my modern day gaming PC. And yet FF5 is just as good today as it was back then. Curious that.
How do you manage to have x10 the budget and people and still manage to look worse than any title literaly made for your very first console?
>>748892309Stop making it obvious that you're a shitposter that doesn't play games and people will stop calling you out on it. Finding a real criticism would be a good start.
>>748892770NTA but that's squareENIX, ever since the merger i don't think they made a single good game.
>>748869240Debirthfag moment
>>748892696Final Fantasy 7 wasn't pushing any hardware boundaries on the PS1. Which is why 8 and 9 runs laps around 7 in terms of what they were able to render or just do in general. But does that mean Final Fantasy 7 sucks?
>>748892892No it sucks because of the writing
>>748892770Yeah the 3 decade old game is not pushing boundaries on your current machine, no shit, but Squaresoft sure was focusing on make grand adventures that fits in those SNES cartridges. After the merger they lost their touch though.>>748892892Yeah just ignore they had multiple discs full of FMVs and a massive budget. No shit FF8 and FF9 improved but FF7 set the foundation, and it was such a massive risk for Squaresoft to not develop the game for N64
>>748892930>resonance sucks>ff5 sucks>ff7 sucks >the remakes suck >old bad>new badWhy are you even in Final Fantasy threads at all? I don't think you're a fan.
>>748891808>most of a decade before 15 came out>12: 2006Damn, up to 4 whole games
>>748893056You might come to a slightly different conclusion if you stop attributing mostly someone else's opinions to meI said 7 sucks
This looks pleasing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3SU5dDBwCI>>748891104This doesn't.Simple as.
>>748893238>It looks bad because I said soHow to spot a contrarian with no genuine opinions. If Resonance came out 20 years ago you'd say its the best looking JRPG ever even if it looked the exact same.
>>748892781Because Square Enix is incompetent and FF fans have really low standards as shown in this very thread. If Squaresoft didn't make that shitty fucking movie and Sakaguchi didn't become irrelevant, I'd guarantee you we would've had a very artistic JRPG that looks exactly like Akihiko Yoshida's art.
>>748893365If Resonance came out 20 years ago, it would be some JRPG spin off on the DS or PSP and not many would give a shit about it.
>>748893470Ah so not worth throwing shitfits over
>>748893045>Yeah just ignore they had multiple discs full of FMVsHaving multiple discs is not pushing the hardware. It's having multiple discs. My old MS-DOS games came on multiple floppy disks. But it's not as all of them were pushing the hardware nor did the disks ever imply that.
>>748893365>"In my personal opinion this looks better">"HrMmH bUt whO says iT dOes!?!"Jesus you're retarded.
>>748892262I agree, staggering is awesome. Anyone who wants a generic combat system that plays how every other game plays should play the dozen Dragon Quest (and their dozen spinoffs) or the literal hundreds and I mean HUNDREDS of other JRPGs out there. These people are fucking insane thinking the majority of the fanbase wants to keep the combat basic and simple.
>>748893238>This looks pleasing:Ok. Agreed. But what you posted isn't even a real videogame.
>>748891187Not Unreal Engine 5 = trash
>>748893680So you agree you have no actual argument. Cool.
>>748894082HD-2D games are literally unreal engine slop
>>748891661overthinking combat designers love stagger because they basedface over the idea over shit like combat having discrete phases and "momentum". games that do stagger well just have it as a bonus and don't force it so real damage can only done in a stagger phase
>>748870960WoFF was 10 years ago
>>748876495He literally already uses FG inputs.
>>748892781>made for your very first console>Playstation>very firstwhat the living fuck?
>>748891661Is there a way for devs to ban 40yos from steam discussions? Would improve the game industry 100000x immediately
>>748879712theyre already doing that
>>748891823Trvke but FF is a boomer franchise now after the last 2 numbered games didn't catch lasting new fans
>>748879712>The next cope is that the game was supposed to be a turn-based NUMBERED entryThis will never happen though. It is too risky, because a lot of zoomers despise turn-based combat. They moved on from Pokemon when they were 12 years old.
zoomers are more likely to know who zexion from KH is than any FF8 and FF9 character besides squall
>>748892262Stagger is fine as long as the fights aren't always exactly the same. The UNLOAD phase. if nothing else, works as a cheap dopamine hit. Chunking boss health bars in one turn is fun.
>>748895284i played kh1 and 2 and i have no fucking idea who that isis he also one and three quarters xehanort?
>>748895063>Revelation is gonna be good just like Rebirth>Sebby will have his obligatory "Flirted with a minor on discord" scandal because he fits the profile and will be put out of business>Total Re-Enjoyer victory
>>748880237It makes sense.
Does anyone else think about Sebby every day? I rarely go an hour without thinking about anti-7r people.
>>748874979P5 royal is the only game from that franchise to sell that well. Reload flopped and so did metaphor. When revival inevitably flops, what are you gonna say then?
>>748895657I like him more for when he took a massive shit on 16.
>>748875443Links awakening was not beloved lmao. All tendies talked about was how its art style was ass. It was garnishing comparisons to the gen4 Pokémon remakes
>>748895698persona 4 has way more fans than 3 ever did its going to sellthere is a reason 4 got TWO animes and a million spinoffs that 3 characters had to have cameos in while they got nothing but p3dan and a couple movies
>>748875742Ironically the average ff faggot
>>748895284>zoomers are more likely to know who zexion from KHKH is a boomer franchise now too and has the same problem as final fantasy. Every new game leaks fans, young people arent interested, and the only people who end up playing it are old diehard fans
>>748878967That’s the problem. Expedition 33 isn’t turned based, it’s parry slop. I wish you niggers would just admit turned based combat is slop and get over it
So I guess Resonance threads are just more opportunities for Ba7ry to samefag and seethe about anyone not liking 7R>>748869257This is all he does now
>>748895472Sebbynigz likes little boys.
>>748868794>Octopath 0 got more people into the franchise than 1 and 2 despite just being misery porn with all the good characters cut from the game>Another Eden aka Chrono Trigger 3 just came out and people like it despite it being an absolute shitstorm of slop>FFBE is poised to be the best gacha-turned-game title ever, with most people excited for it being a traditional FF gameThis horrendous cycle needs to be broken before we hit Genshin Impact....
>>748875742Lost Odyssey already exists, anon.
Even if you remove the gacha mechanics specifically you still have to cope with the story that was written for a gacha game and gameplay that was designed for one too. It's not that easy to adapt from a live service title to a full package, especially if the former didn't fail.If the story was really good in brave exvius it probably wouldn't have EOS'd.
>>748896501every gacha EOS's retard
>>748896337I 100% the game and all the DLC in 80 hours and honestly not as fun as like the 7 preceding it in that image or the one after it
>>748896501It went for like 10 years, the fuck do you want from a live service game?
>>748895798>It's combat is insulting to FF OG fansStopped reading there.That guy is a brainless idiot because he refuses to accept that SE is simply responding to market demand. You don't need a particularly high IQ to understand that SE is a corporation and therefore has to make money.
>>748896337E33 isn't turn based though, you dumb nigger. It has an extremely strong emphasis on real time parrying.
>>748896792>Stopped reading there.But you're the one who posted it
>>748896842That has nothing whatsoever to do with whether it's turn basedWhich is plainly is
Is this the most critically acclaimed mainline Final Fantasy title in 20+ years? We ALL declared this GOTY with the most appealing and influential art style and made by BASED Team Asano of “The Adventures of Elliot” fame. And did we mention that this is turn BASED? Fibby bibby and /thread.
>>748896501The story and gameplay aren't even the same you brainless fucking idiot.
>game demo of this pixel art game is over 5gbwe are truly evolving and advancing
>>748890764What’s the cite anon?
>>748890315You miss the point of pre-ordering.The companies put pre-orders to inflate their revenue numbers since money now > money later. Simple as that. And to convince you, that's why pre-order bonuses exist.
>>748896501>10 fucking years and 5 seasonsAre you retarded? The game is a smash hit in that sphere and even then from the literal beginning of Resonance you can see narrative changes and complete gameplay overhaul compared to BE.
>>748894754In the demo, the hardest boss has such a long stagger bar that you'd basically be done with the fight when you finally staggered him. Its definitely a utility mechanic to skip turns and pump out an extra hit than centralizing ala Octopath/FF16 where you do dogshit damage outside of stagger.
>>748896792>that SE is simply responding to market demand>SE is a corporation and therefore has to make money.The "market" is demanding more AAA E33 types of games however. So much so that E33 has sold better than FF16 and FF7R. Why is SE not making AAA turn based FF if all they're doing is following numbers, hmmmmmmmmmmm?
>>748895798This killed the FF7Rannies
>>748898267Yeah, and Dave the Diver also sold very well. Should every game be a Dave the Diver clone as well?You are retarded.
>>748898267SE watched FF sales crater during the PS2 and PS3 era, while shit like Kingdom Hearts and Nier performed extremely well. Also, Capcom games sell gang bangers and they are all action titles.That said, SE is never going back to turn-based for mainline AAA titles, so you had might as well just finally accept it, unc.
>>748898556>Yeah, and Dave the Diver also sold very well. Should every game be a Dave the Diver clone as well?>>748896792>SE is simply responding to market demand.>SE is a corporation and therefore has to make money.Do FFaggots even read what they post?
>>748899071>Do FFaggots even read what they post?Half of them are retarded slaves that love to defend this shit company. Just treat them as if they were tendies.
>>748898932CAPCOM always had a reputation for action games since birth, however. Square and Enix did not.Also, Dragon Quest 11 sold 9 million copies and what do they decide to do for DQ 12? Make it dark, mature and drop TB combat, just to change back to TB at the last minute and further delay the game. SE is just a shitty company filled with incompetent people that lack a spine and a pair of balls.
>>748899071>one game I like sold well, so that is what the market wants>I don't care about the other 99%You are legit retarded, NSP.
>>748899723Funny how the SE haters are usually the ones demanding turn slop. It is like you just want to watch the company crash and burn.
>>748899302I can tell. They provide zero arguments and constantly contradict themselves. Then they appeal to projection when they get called out. No wonder these games sell, their target audience doesn't seem too bright.
>>748899723>Square and Enix did not.That was over 25 years ago for the most part. Nobody cares what 60 y/o uncs have to say anymore.
>>748899863>Funny how the SE haters are usually the ones demanding turn slopHmm I guess FF resonance is slop after all then? They should make it an action game to appease you faggot since OG FF fags don't seem to like this one anyway.
>>748899873>No wonder these games sell, their target audience doesn't seem too bright.lmao, if only they sold as well as they've hoped. 16 was a flop and SE is planning to milk 7 as much as they can. Square Enix had to restructure the company and layoff some staff because their games kept flopping.
>>748899863This. True FF fans are looking for that fast-paced real time action combat.
>>748899958I was obviously referring to mainline AAA titles with 100+ million dollar budgets, browncel.
>>748895938i see tons of KH groups in vrchat all the time, most of which are sub 25 year olds and even tons of underages, not a single FF group that ive seen personally and over half the people in the KH groups flat out did not know zidane or kuja
>>748869240>more concerned about whether the game makes faceless business men money or not than if the game is good/v/ in a nutshell.
>>748898267Because games take years to make and E33 came out last year. For all you know they have an E33-like in the works right now but you won't know about it for a few more years.
>>748900147>I was obviously referring to mainline AAA titles with 100+ million dollar budgetsSquare Enix is doing exactly this with Dragon Quest after attempting to be an edgy ARPG, now it's back to turn-based because even Horii knew this would be retarded and controversial. Keep ignoring E33 and BG3 also being wildly successful despite being turn based though, let's hope XVII is also some ARPG slop and Square loses even more money as a result.
>>748900384DQ12 was always turn based.
>>748899863The haters haven't forgotten that mainline FF sold like shit when it was still turn based.Squeenix wouldn't even exist anymore if Yoshi-P didn't save the company with FFXIV.
>>748900434>DQ12 was always turn based.>Horii in the first teaser 4 years ago: "That in itself was a new challenge, but with “Dragon Quest XII” we are taking it even further. I’ve already said it, but I’ll say it again. First of all, the command battles of the past will be completely redesigned. How we will do it is still a secret, but we have already made a prototype, and while playing the game with the staff, we are convinced that it will be a lot of fun."Then they rebooted the whole fucking thing and reshuffled the team. Sasuga Horii, at least he's not a complete idiot like the rest of the company.
>>748900384>making shit up: the postThe only true thing you wrote was that development was rebooted. Everything else is speculation at best.
>>748900541when did final fantasy perform well then
>>748900735>The only true thing you wrote was that development was rebootedAre you denying that Horii was planning to make it a grimdark and edgy DQ, and now he went back on it?
>Reading all the replies ITTFFfags are really low IQ.
This is literally the reason why mainline FF isn't turn-based anymore.It is your own fucking fault, uncs.
>>748901045how do you muster up the energy to shitpost like this all daywhat is your aim beyond embarrassing yourself and wasting your own time
>>748900894Where did I deny that?
>>748900982>>748901045I'm not playing persona.
>>748901045more like FF12 being in dev hell and only decent and then FF13 being straight up dogshit plus most side projects being ass
>>748901045>The decline started with FFX-2Damn.
this game's artstyle looks like shit
>>748868794mobile gacha slop
>>748896501I played all four seasons of Brave Exvius. From the demo I can surmise that a lot of the main plots bullet points are still there, but a lot of stuff that wasn't present in the original story are in Resonance. From what I've seen so far it really is a complete rebuild of BE's story. Same characters, same world, different events and scenarios.
>>748901045They took the mantra of "every Final Fantasy is different" to an absolutely schizophrenic extreme. Nowadays the series is left with no core identity aside from maybe there being crystals and moogles and shit.
>>748901045>move away from turn based>sales drop>Nani? Why is that happening? Let's double down on real time, surely that will improve sales.
>>748902425FF12 and FF13 were turn based
>>748873363This is shounen anime slop wearing an FF skin. It's barely an FF
>>748902463And XIII is the worst mainline game in this series to this day, fuck does that mean?
>>748875361>>748875440Kek
>>748900735https://youtu.be/gR4iFDXmpAw?si=Gimhl4UApBe0uJS1
>>748902463No they weren't
>>748881538Retard. It's a great game and way more of an FF than anything I've seen in Resonance so far. There's a reason why other turn-based games released in the past 2 decades haven't been enough for people stop asking for a new, true to form FF game--because FF is so much more than the ATB gauge. You're a slop-eater.
>>748902621revisionism
>>748903004one of the key reasons why FNV was cancelled was because of FF13's reception you clueless 360 toddler
>>748902621It means they shouldn't have used 3 games for FFXIII. XIII-2 had, by far, the best turn-based battle system in the entire series, but it was attached to 13. If it was called a Chrono sequel it would be considered one of the best turn based rpgs of that decade. Square's mishandling of the series doesn't mean that a turn-based game couldn't be successful, but Square is ran by literal retards who can't own the idea that FF was absolutely abused. Makes one appreciate Capcom quite a bit, thinking about it since they're a prime example of picking up fumbled IPs.
>>748902621nope that's XV and by a country mile
>>748894909Yes i'm retarded, for some reason i was thinking Sony and i forgot for how long squaresoft was around.
>>748902874Hit a nerve, huh
>>748893916True, but it's from the maker of Owlboy in a bizarre "what could've been if square hired me to make the fabled cancelled third game in the Chrono seires"
>>748901045People lost interest because they spent a decade making 2 sequels to a game everyone hated instead of just moving on. FF13 legitimately killed this franchise.
>>748903529Not even fucking close. XV at least had good characters and the best soundtrack. XIII has literally nothing going for it.
>>74890538113s soundtrack was fine and infact has one of the better basic combat themesthe backstreet boys fucking suck the only good part of 15 was laughing at ignis tripping on his cane
>>748905512Nah the bros were great. There isn't a single likeable character in all of XIII. Everyone in your party is insufferable. Just awful writing from top to bottom.
>>748870960No one begged for re-jggered mobile slop.
>>748905674sazh is fine
>>748905731He's just a worse Wakka.
>>748869240It has all member berries it won't fail unfortunately. The next pixel games from se will be shit, too
>>748891104Games like WoW and Diablo are played mainly by millennials and they keep printing money.Truthfully, SE never needed a new audience, it was SE who left their core audience and bitched when no one would buy their shit. Wtf was ff12? ff13 overstayed it's welcome with the most unlikeable characters. ff14 was mishandled and ff15 was advertised as their magnus opus and failed to delivered, they couldn't even finish the DLCs, but somehow they managed to find time for gatcha slop.It is no wonder that that no one bought ff16, and ff7R wasn't what fans were asking for. So fuck you for trying to pass FF reporposed gatcha as somehow a sequel for the ps1/ps2 era.
>>748906496These characters haven't been relevant in 25+ years lmao. Nostalgiabaiting doesn't work that far back.
>>748906656>as somehow a sequel for the ps1/ps2 era.Fantasian is a sequel of the PS1 and PS2 era. Resonance is a sequel of the SNES era.
>>748906375That makes absolutely no sense.
fucking hell, this is literally every single thread about this game. and it's probably the same people posting the shit too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYIafOKKo-ISOVL
>>748868794I didn't expect the voice acting to be so bad. guess it's another game I'm forced to play in Japanese so I at least can't tell if it's terrible acting
>>748909401Are they wrong though?
>>748908143>Resonance is a sequel of the SNES era.See, this is why nobody takes you faggots seriously. Not even diehard FF fanboys think this is true, kek.
>>748910849for the most part yea. the game isn't a gacha nor is it a port of the gacha
>>748911014what games other than 7R do you accept others liking
>>748911268So why are there guest characters? There is no reasonable explanation for that.
>>748911014XVI is a spiritual successor to SNES FF7R is a spiritual successor to FFXIII
>>748911482because the devs decided for there to be guest characters? what does that have to do with gacha?
>>748911482Does that make shovel knight a gacha game? Or Undertale?
>>748871297>Can play through the whole game without parryingJust because the mechanic is there doesn't mean it's the core aspect of the gameIt's been how long and you faggots are still absolutely assraped by a fun rpg
>>748911676>>748911678>Yeah let's make Tidus throw a Blitzball so Tifa can punch it and have Vivi cast a fire spell on it before it explodes on the enemy.>This is peak FF, you just don't remember it unc!Sometimes I'd like to think I'm not talking to literal retards but you always manage to surprise me.
>>748912184what does any of what you just said have to do with this being a gacha game?
>>748912184was world of final fantasy a gacha then? the last turn based console FF before resonance?
>>748891423Hypervisor
>>748912184none of this happens in the game, and if anything it just sounds like a niggling description of the combo attacks they put in rebirth
>>748898267resonance is the only type of game they could have the time to develop between E33's release and now
No
>>748912523>was world of final fantasy a gacha then?Man I loved that game.Also no it wasn't.
>>748912523World of Final Fantasy was not supposed to be a serious FF, it was supposed to be it's own fun thing where boomers go "hey, I remember that" at the chibi characters. Meanwhile FF Resonance entire gimmick is that "FF is finally turn based again" but they used the gacha characters and world and even pulled the out of place FMV summons. FF fags are truly retarded it's unreal.
>>748870394>tactical depth>pathfinder 2elollmao
>>748913174>Meanwhile FF Resonance entire gimmick is that "FF is finally turn based again"where the did you get this from outside of fanbase headcanons lmao this is literally just another game from a studio that pumps out releases every 6 months
>>748891282So this is how rebirthcucks are going to cope now! Very cute.
>>748869302>this was mostly a lot of "memberberries" the rpgYou didn't play the demo.
>>748889537>Okay. Sell me the demo thenNo, go fuck yourself, faggot. Play it or don't. Nobody gives a fuck about you.
it's actually crazy, this was probably one of the best demos of all-time.probably THE best. squenix are shitheads for many reasons but they deserve GOTY here and i hope it does well because this was high-effort. i know some nigger will get mad because le gacha or something, idgaf.
>>748914608based. this.>>748889537eat shit faggot lmfao
>>748913174This
BE was horrendous why the fuck would anyone be excited for this
>>748909401>making a new game>nah we don't do that>reusing some EoS gacha assets and selling for $40>daddy square please right up my ass
>>748869240floppy
>>748916005Cast a spell on me...
>>748916005hehheheheheboi-oi-oi-oi-oinghehehehehe
>>748911268>nor is it a port of the gachat. came to me in a dream because I don't want to accept reality
>>748869240let me guess this is one of those twitter freaks that was melting down over expedition33 existing
>>748912523World of FF has never been a gacha in any form of its existence. It was, quite literally, an original game with its own assets instead of reused EOS being pumped out by the SQEX HD2D sweatshop assembly line
>>748913631>where the did you get this from outside of fanbase headcanonshttps://youtu.be/wbsfQYI_IIY>"FINAL FANTASY RETURNS TO IT'S ROOTS!"Dumb faggot, even the fucking marketing says this.
>>748915532They never played itThey were never around for classic Final Fantasy eitherThey're larping it to be some return to form, a form they have never witnessed
>>748918953Convincing these slop-eaters that FF deserves more than these low effort cashgrabs is impossible. They will find any excuse to eat slop and wonder why people don't take their opinions seriously. SQEX needs a kyoani moment
>>748911014Do you have an actual argument? 1. The game is actually properly turnbased. 2. Visions are eerily similar to jobs from the likes of FF5 and FF3. 3. Even just aesthetically and thematically. It's the kind of medieval fantasy world with some magitech stuff or airships at most, which is what FF consistently was was for the first six games. Not counting Bravely Default, Resonance is easily the game that echoes the first 6 games the most since the first 6 games. How could you even argue otherwise?
>>748919390You played 3 FF games at most and are impressed by jingly keys.
>>748919523I played every one but 8 and he's right.
>>748919523I have played all of them except 15 and he's right
>>748919792>>748919879Samefag
Still no argument. Unsurprising.
>>748919208It says a lot of about quality of "mainline" FF games that actual FF fans are more excited about pixelshit with regurgitated assets.
>>748902463FF12 was RTwP like biowareslop.
>>748889864>grinding>Only some boss fights ever provided any challengeHMMM I WONDER WHY
>>748918953>>"FINAL FANTASY RETURNS TO IT'S ROOTS!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1uFD81FvwThe original video never says this you fucking EOP
>>748922509How about every true FF that wasn't a direct sequel or Ivalice was its own original world and characters, with a budget and art direction that at a glance made it distinctly recognizable compared to any other rpg contemporary. You are telling Square "regurgitating your leftovers produced by your college hires is good enough for me and FF as a whole". Granted, I grew up with FF, so maybe I'm just a wacky individual for thinking a big budget FF along the lines of older titles or at least a refinement of ATB from XIII with insane audio/visual flair completely unique to itself without relying on fanservice nostalgiawank to remind its players that they're playing an FF game instead of just another generic 2dhd rpg is not too much to ask for. Excuse the fuck out of me.
>>748893403>Squaresoft entrusts Nomura to make Advent Children>Absolute garbage to the point it loses stocks left and right>Everyone gets laid off in the merger EXCEPT Nomura somehow>Nomura is put to work on the FF7 demake>Sub-80 iq normies who have infiltrated the hobby will call you names if you even suggest it ruined the original despite them not having played itI hate that Nobunga hack with a passion.
>>748924967As much as I think Nomura poisoned Final Fantasy by slowly turning it into Kingdom Hearts, I am learning to hate Hamaguchi even more. At least Nomura Fantasy kinda still feels like Final Fantasy, even if he obviously doesn't "get it", but Hamaguchi has turned Final Fantasy into an Ubisoft game. It's very telling when the DMC lite game with no party and limited customization outside of move sets feels much more like Final Fantasy than the Final Fantasy VII Remake part 2.
>>748919390Visions are just Esper (FFVI) accessories (FFIX), dude. And no, a gacha game is not the savior of Final Fantasy.
>>748925804>Visions are just Esper (FFVI)The espers are the espers of resonance. >And no, a gacha game is not the savior of Final Fantasy.Yeah no shit. Brave exvius is dead. Good thing resonance isn't brave exvius.
>>748870867if this game doesnt do well, reunion might have to be cancelled. they wont let it for sure, but they will have to siphon funds from something else instead.
>>748926804It's okay to admit you haven't ever played any Final Fantasy games, anon. If you disagree with what I said, you are wrong.
Why are you promoting AI gen slop?
I played the demo and really liked it. Honestly the worst part of the game is the cameos from other FFs. The game is good enough to stand on its own with that shit.
Already pre-ordered. Get gaped.
>>748927535It's based on a gacha. It never would have existed without the "cameos"
>>748926804You need to raise your standards
Is she in?
Rain's dad is the Darklord but the Darklord you fight is actually a vision made by the Lightlord cause she's a foid that is mad that Rain's dad chose to fuck some backwater native than her prime autist pussy.
>>748868794I got dehyped when I found out the whole game was datamined in the demo, every single item, boss and story(its basically same as mobile game no surprises or major changes)even boss patterns were datamined
>>748925661>the game that has no real magic, equipment or RPG elements and almost didn't have chocobos feels more like a FF than a game that contains most FF staplesYoshiP cultists are crazy
>>748868794>UNC SLOP
>>748927967Fucking kek. This is why you don't give Squa4e money until after a game is released
>>748868794is the main love interest a virgin?
>>748928340Ubisoft checklist choreslop just isn't Final Fantasy, even if Cloud is the main character. You got bamboozled by jingly keys.
>>748927787You can mod her in
>>748927967Did you play ffbe?
Didn't really like the Main guy's English voice all that much
>>748868794played the demo and laughed at how pathetic and out of touch square enix is. if they didnt have two piece of shit mmos copying successful western mmos they wouldnt have lasted this long.
>>7488932382DHD looks bettet than american indie garbage aesthetic, cope.
>>748931856It's a Japanese game
>>748924593Based. Btfo that gachafag.
>>748916005Im glad were going to get more Dark Fina Fanart
>>748868794>HD2Dew
>>748927710>It never would have existed without the "cameos"This would be preferable, I think.
Is my Rat Wife included?
>>748936272>time to get on /v/ and try to infect some retards with my shitty fetish>HEY /v/ DO THE CHARACTERS SHIT ON SCREEN???That's what you sound like
>>748936272She's not in unfortunately, but there's already a framework to mod in visions based on any character with a sprite from BE, which includes Freya (and a gorillion others)
>>748936272As far as characters from other games go, its only got the mc of each game plus one mystery nigger whose almost certainly Sephiroth.
>>748875262>like a faggot>one of the biggest games of the last decadelol. notice how you didn't list metaflop because persoyna 5 was a fluke and none of their other games came even close to it.
FF17 with actual party members and no blatant attempts to appeal to the west when? (I do not care for millennial nostalgia bait)
>>748881140You don't like FF and have no idea why people like it
>>748938382Elaborate, then.
>>748895857step outside of /v/ anon its really not that relevant
>>748938315>MC>Yshtola
>>748938426>its just like the classics!>except the writing>and the character designs>and the art style>and the soundtrack
>>748938514She's been the 14 rep in all the crossover shit since 2015. Get over it already.
>>748874907>What we want is something AAA with a ton of craft put into it.But you retards always say that E33 was made on an AA budget. Why would Square need to make an AAA turd based game when no other company would?
>>748914472>Duuuuude Magitek armor>Duuuuude he's just like Garland/Golbez/Gabranth/other imposing armored bad guy>Duuuuude MC leads an airship squadron and has a cool edgy best friend>Duuuuude amnesiac girl with mysterious powers with an alt form where she becomes naked and glows a single bright color>Duuuuude he's just like Hojo lmao>Duuuuude Gilgamesh>Duuuuude literally every FF protag ever is in the game as a gacha ghost>Duuuuude they said FARPLANEI liked the demo but it's basically a fangame with a budget
>>748870960Why can't they make the ffx turn based system instead we go back to standard boring turn based shit every time. Ffx having the conditional turn based system should have been built on.
>>748938613Because it will never happen. Squeenix are retards that can only ever spend nothing or a gorillion dollars on shit. The only one at that entire company who can budget for shit is Yoshida who despises turn based.
>>748869240Then are you at least gonna KILL YOURSELF when it doesn't? Pretty please?
>>748938553THIS is the guy doing the soundtrack?? How the fuck do you get this retard and think its good enough for people who are nostalgic for Uematsu?
>>748903156XIII and XIII-2 aren't turn-based, but they do have one of SE's best battle systems.XIII's biggest problem is that it stays in tutorial mode for too long and saves all its best fights for Chapter 9-13. However, the game's biggest strength is that the linear structure allows for a smoothly designed difficulty curve where the devs can anticipate how much CP and other resources players will have, so fights are generally designed around strats more than stats.XIII-2 is the opposite. It gives players access to theoretically more interesting fights earlier on, but the codemonkeys at tri-Ace weren't on the same level of autism as SE's combat designers, so they fucked the balancing and made the game ultimately more about stats than strats. Where good strats can win most fights in XIII even if you're underleveled (NCU-NEU came close to being solved, with Proudclad 2 remaining the unassailable wall), in XIII-2 this is much less often the case, in part because of the Wound system and various other changes.Always was a bit disappointed that XIII-3 wasn't basically a World of Ruin game where you built up your party and used the final and best possible version of CSB, but LR's battle system is still fun at least.
>>748868794is it out already?https://youtu.be/CedcOzCpC_E?si=08o8kGraKsV_azJL&t=89https://youtu.be/Pw4LPSEOMoA?si=5eTvhxYhx-Yi06ZQ&t=2013
Not watching your 3rd world sebby's video
>>748938852Resonance is a project on the level of something like FF12 Revenant Wings or FFCC Ring of Fates from back in the dayLower-stakes so they just get whoever's available to compose for itMeanwhile the FFVII Retrilogy gets a fucking army of composers and arrangers because priorities
>>748938673damn that FARPLANE do be hype doe
>>748939436Right so the very selling point of the game falls apart immediately
>>748938673>Duuuuude Magitek armorIs anyone even Nostalgic for the 14 Magitek chickens?
Did the gachafaggot zoomer who makes this thread every single day really try to compare Resonance's quality to Chrino Trigger?The shills nowadays are so retarded and over the top that you'd think they were false flagging.
>>748941815This. Resonance blows it out of the water. Not even a contest.
>>748942023Cute false flag.
>>748942130?
>>748878967E33 flopped pathetically in Japan. Gamers want to date high schoolers, it's that simple.
>>748869240You can already laugh at the newest fire emblem or whatever it’s called.
>>748868794Most people who grew up playing the classic FF games most likely has a family now or suffering from a mid-life crisis.
>>748943081Yes, but also Japanese just love school, especially school with special powers. Malfoid has revealed that Harry Potter is very popular in Japan, which is fitting because it's a school environment where people have magical powers. It's essentially the prototypical Japanese hero's journey.
>>748943081P6 will be peak, i hope it sells well enough
>>748869240It's a quick cash grab asset flip from an EoS'd gacha game. It probably cost veritable pennies to produce. If it sells even 1 million copies it will probably be successful. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if Resonance sells only 1 million copies, it will likely be more financially successful than Rebirth. I am not expecting it to sell much more than 1 million though. At least not short term.
>>748944929>quick cash grab>the most balanced and challenging Final Fantasy game to date
>>748945248It is undoubtedly a quick cash grab asset flip of an EoS'd gacha. That's going to work in its favor if/when it doesn't sell gangbusters or whatever.
>>748938426Team Asano is a competent studio, but will never in a million years produce something like FFVI or Chrono Trigger. Their instinct is that of an experimental SNES era studio.
>>748869240Laughing is good right?
>>748945395Damn, resonance already winning hard.
>>748945557I wouldn't say that, because in a way Chrono Trigger was itself also experimental. A lot of the Enix games were experimental as well. I don't really feel that Asano is in any way experimental the same way the SNES era was. I'd say the opposite - that they follow a very "safe" formula of pretty standard FF-adjacent stuff.
>>748943081>E33 flopped pathetically in JapanThis is a blatant lie by the way. E33 sold as well as everywhere else in Japan. It just didn't sell on day 1 and needed word of mouth to spread first.
>>748945835I'm sorry but the Famitsu threads don't lie. No Switch release = slop flop.
>>748929385>>748916005>>748934904>Dark Fina>Dark >While the normal one looks like thisYou faggots promised mega milktanks the fuck is this?
>>748873405>E33 is closer to FF than this is by a long shot.E33 is nothing like FF.For one, the story is actually good.
>>748944820Watch persona 6 add a girl in similar vein.
>>748946023Resonance buffs her
>>748946091Can you change her outfit/job?
>>748946042>E33 is nothing like FF.True. It has more of a Nier tone than anything. >For one, the story is actually goodLOL no. It tricks you into thinking the story might be good, but then it was all just Star Ocean 3. Which, by the way, everyone disliked back in the day. Crazy how in 20 years or however long, media has degraded to such a point that something everyone made fun of, literally the first thing you learn not to do in any creative writing class ever, is genuinely seen as a "masterpiece" by zoomers who never consumed any media other than Cocomelon and Fortnite.
>>748946306>literally the first thing you learn not to do in any creative writing class ever, is genuinely seen as a "masterpiece" by zoomers who never consumed any media other than Cocomelon and Fortnite.What its the thing? the "all a dream" scenario?
>>748946382Yes. It's considered a faux pas in creative writing.
>>748946449Ohhhh i see, thanks for the answer, i also find it quite curious how people accepted it so well
>>748916005So MC basically has two love interests in one body?
>>748946449>>748946501Masterpieces like The Matrix and Expedition 33 pull it off so well it actually enhances them, and makes them unforgettable.
>>748946534No. The Matrix (or Inception) probably does it the best, but in The Matrix, it is revealed extremely early and was never part of the mystery, but rather the duality between worlds was the focal point of the narrative.Expedition 33 is just standard it was all a dream creative faux pas cop out by a writer who wasn't actually good enough to resolve her own narrative.
>>748946042closer than resonanceits not like FF but its a JRPG with high production value, memorable characters and designs, a standout OST, very story driven, with a very emotional undercurrent. If E33 came out as FF17 with some changes to make it more weeby people wouldn't really be too disoriented. Its not truly FF but its in the same wheelhouse as stuff like FF10.
>>748946743>closer than resonanceAbsolutely not. E33 doesn't "feel" the same as Final Fantasy at all. Then again, I guess zoomers never have known what "soul" is. You're mistaking budget and production value for the spirit of the series; you are unable to see past the superficiality of it all. That's probably not your fault though, seems to just be a zoomer trait.
>>748946874the entire point of bringing it up was to show that turn based RPGs are very successful right now and FF could do it right, and some lazy half assed attempt isn't proof that it doesn't workI am objectively correct
>>748878967Yus
>>748927787She is anorexic nowdont give up skeleton!
>>748947047I was actually thinking about how she looked back then, some real demons got to her. https://youtu.be/SXiSVQZLje8
>>748946905>the entire point of bringing it up was to show that turn based RPGs are very successful right nowWell, E33 is like 80% partying which is distinctly not turn-based, I'm convinced it was a paid shill industry plant game because it was good but not "win every award for an entire year, more than Last of Us 2" good, and when E33 conversation wasn't just about Final Fantasy, it was people who had never played a "jarpig" before saying that they played it because it didn't have a "tranime" aesthetic, so the exact opposite audience that Final Fantasy appeals to>I am objectively correctNot about saying the E33 is closer to FF than Resonance is. Resonance is literally "cheap FF memberberries: the game"
>>748896842There is a mountain of nuance that invalidate your argument:>Enemy attacks are honestly telegraphed with consistent visual and audio ques. You could count fake outs and delayed animations on your single hand. Basically, no fromsoft cancer.>Even then, you can opt for dodge which has more iframes and thus make it more forgiving if you still cant time it well.>If that is still too hard then you can just opt out of the timing mini-game with pictos like Defensive Mode and Energising Pain.>The picto effects are so varied that you can in fact beat the game on Hardest difficulty without ever touching dodge/parry button at all.
E33 is objectively *mostly* a real time parry game. The fact that it is technically turn-based almost never actually comes into play outside of the opening hours of the game. Every single person whonhas ever played it recognizes this as the truth, so there is no reason to pretend to protest otherwise.
>>748947376Read my post above yours.
>>748947395Your post isnwhat prompted my post. There is no use pretending, anon. Everyone who played it knows it's a real time parry game. You are only fooling yourself, and I don't even think you're succeasfully doing that.
>>748947454You can literally finish the game on hardest difficulty without ever touching dodge or parry. How does that translate to real time parry game?
>>748947530I'm not even going to begin to entertain this extreme cope levels of disingenuity. Is E33 technically turn-based? Yes.Did 99.9% of people play it as a real time parry game? Yes.Is partying the best thing you can possibly do at all times? Yes.Is partying the most fun/satisfying part of the game? Also yes.
>>748947312>>748947530A challenge run being able to be done does not mean that the main mechanic of the game is not there, you can do dark souls without dodging or blocking, you can finish SMT/Persona without fusion, you can do a lots of crazy stuff but that does not make the main mechanic of the games disappear, was E33 a sucess because it was turn based or because it was turn based WITH a parry and doge? BG3 being a success is a stronger argument for turn based than E33
>>748945557Only the first Octopath was experimental in terms of making a unique looking game at the time and see what the market thought. People liked it, but team Asano didn't improve their tech and are now just churning out sequels, remakes and the occasional new game.
>>748947614>99.9%Yeah I guess most people are retardsAnyone that plays hard JRPGs or hard type mods will just play it like a normal JRPG. Parrying is just god mode with extra steps. That's like actually using elixirs instead of saving it until the sequel.
>>748948283Your cope levels are multifacted and unbelievable.
>>748947614>Did 99.9% of people play it as a real time parry game? Yes.Source. My ass.>Is parrying the best thing you can possibly do at all times? Yes.Doesn't matter.>Is parrying the most fun/satisfying part of the game? Also yes.Debatable.>>748947719>A challenge run being able to be done does not mean that the main mechanic of the game is not thereThere's nothing challenging about reaching chapter 3, walking back to Gustav's death spot and picking up a picto. The only games that are challenging in age of information are strict reflex games with split second decision making.>you can [...]If you can play the game in such a way that the main mechanic effectively doesn't exist then for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist.>was E33 a sucess because it was turn based or because it was turn based WITH a parry and doge?E33 was successful because it was a deserved massive middle finger to both Fromsoft and Square Enix when it comes to their dickheaded action combat design. May not be true for you, but it is true for everyone else who isn't like you.
These threads are always entertaining for one reason or another. Never thought I'd read that Resonance (demo) is better than Chrono Trigger or that E33 isn't a parry game or that only retards pressed parry.Gacha retards truly are a different breed.
>>748948681We're all faggots and retards here. Debates wouldn't be interesting if all we did is agree with one another.
>>748878967Expedition 33 reminded me why Legend of Dragoon will never get a remake. The "we replaced the attack button with a QTE sequence" style of combat is fucking retarded.
>>748948681Gachachads talk about their games. Meanwhile most jrpgfags never do that
>>748948587Yes Anon the game adding action mechanics was a middle finger to the guys most known for dodge rolls, BG3 didn't need that shit to win GOTY, might as well ignore pictos too as you can do a challenge run without them too so they might as well not exist
>>748948820E33 adding mechanics that circumvented parryslop/dodge timing was the middle finger. BG3 is a memetic bear sex game. Also caring about game awards kek.
>>748938514Correct.
>>748948787Thank you for getting offended, thus proving my point.
SE's game director/executives have been there for decades, that they rather sink the company then let younger devs sail the ship, fucking old farts.Someone should link this thread in their twatter.
>>748948993But I'm not, you are the one offended because you know I'm right, you have thousands of jrpgs and you will never talk about those
>>748949013This problem is honestly in every single company.
>>748948820Don't bother, bro. That guy is working backwards from a solution and trying to make anything fit, he's not working forward to a solution based on facts and logic. >>748949020>doubling down on being offended>no uI'm literally talking about jrpgs right now, and the post that offended you to begin with was also talking about 2 different jrpgs. You're teaching me that gachafags are retarded in many different ways.
>>748949013>Someone should link this thread in their twatter.Don't flatter yourself. This is the same bullshit thread that this game has had every single day for the past month or whatever. It's nothing new or special. There is zero information to be gained from this thread other than that people here are retarded. Literal boomers holding on for far longer than there supposed to is just a plague of modern life. Like every fucking politician is 80 fucking years old, would have been forced to retire in any other field, but apparently running the government is the only job that has no age limit. It's just like this everywhere. But also, and this is a scary thought, the new blood might be worse. Especially if they're new new. If they're younger they might only have played modern bad video games.
>>748949020Nobody plays games anymore
>>748949013White and japanese boomers are a huge problemChinks at least know is better to train new bloodJapan is being cucked by chinks actually using new blood over the same old boomers
>>748949317Wannabe jannies like you it's why /v/ is dying
>>748949461>Wannabe janniesAre you a bot? You're not even saying anything that makes sense.
>>748949640>This is the same bullshit thread that this game has had every single day for the past month or whatever. It's nothing new or special. There is zero information to be gained from this thread other than that people here are retarded.
>>748949652So you are a bot.
>>748949685No, just saying if this board is dying is because we have wannabe jannies like you who add absolutely nothing of value. Bet you will be complaining when the game is out too
>>748949723I've been "contributing" to this "conversation" often, and it's usually not ever about Resonance. There is nothing about this thread specifically that makes it any different from any of the other threads we've had for this game every single day since the demo dropped, so there'd be no reason to send this thread specifically to Square Enix, and truthfully there'd never be any reason at all, and that's assuming they'd even read it in the first place. Sorry that talking about video games has offended you.
>>748949723Yeah I noticed that too, always some faggot trying to make everything depressing.Was season 2 (or 3?) that bad? I wonder how much story bits they changed
Even the people excited for the game agree that the story is garbage so why would I buy a game that heavily relies on a story that's shit?
>>748949876>>748941815Nigga just fucking ignore the thread
>>748950107Everyone else is buying it out of pure spite for modern Final Fantasy or because they played Brave Exvius for years.
>>748950152Yeah I'm sure giving more money to square will help
>People want the heyday of fighting games in the 90s>Proceed to keep designing games for tourney players>People want the heyday of rts games back>Keep chasing that mythical esports crowd from starcraft 1 to this day>Frogs makes a basic bitch ass jrpg with some bells and whistles and not shoving ugly lgbtwhatver down people's throats>Does well!>Let's make more shitty overthought jrpgs!
>>748950182If enough people buy Resonance, then in 2-3 years they'll release Resonance 2, and before you know it, there will be another decade of Brave Exvius, another decade of sticking it to the man by buying turn-based Asano games named Final Fantasy., and that's all anyone buying it really wants. Either more gacha, or more turn-based games, no matter what they are, even if they're gacha assets, but ONLY as long as they are also named Final Fantasy.
>>748950279So more pixelated turn based games you can find everywhere now? How many of you bought the SaGa games?
>>748947376It was good vibes tho but i agree with you. I just wish Square of The Enix learned from it a bit.>>748949013I wish it worked like that but these bums wont listen to anyone except the Japanese audience because they dont know a peep of english
>>748950276>People want the heyday of rts games backThey should play AoE 2.Shrimple, really.
>>748950328>How many of you bought the SaGa games?As far as anyone is concerned E33 was the only turn-based game to release since Final Fantasy stopped being turn-based. That's why all these threads are about bringing up E33.
>>748950405It's actually neat because that made many companies think about going back to older games and just adding content to them. At a premium of course.
>>748950406I thought that was some shill trying to do like that bitch who is still >I was Quiet once (mgsv)
>>748950469This is a shill thread, same guy makes it every single day, he's probably also the same guy always bringing up E33, I think he also played this gacha, it's all too consistent, every thread is exactly the same, happens every single day
>>748868794Everyone wants a pixel turn-based jrpg, not another realism action slop
Just started the demo. 90 mins in It's alright so far I guess. The characters are so far at least attractive and likeable but I think the turn based is too basic to keep my attention. Fuck please bring back ffx turn based mechanics. It's feeling too basic
>>748950539And you complain every single day? Let me guess you were the same retard sperging because ys x got a few threads?
>>748950539>Shill threadThe game comes out this month, literally shut the fuck up. Always the fucking same, crying about BRING TURN BASED GAMES BACK and then you cry because you can't even talk about turn based games either WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT
>>748950546i want a anime-realism turn based jrpg with a job class system and banked free stat allocation on level up and passive abilities and elemental typingz like pokemon
>>748950634Weebtroon trying to join bg3/E33
>>748950634Already doing that plus DQ12
>>748950565>And you complain every single day?No. Only really since yesterday or the day before. It's getting tiresome that the same guy makes the same thread every day and it's never even about Resonance anymore. All aresonance discussion was completely done in 1 or 2 threads, there's no reason for him to make this thread every day. >the same retard sperging because ys x got a few threads?No I didnt even know Ys was at X now, but thanks for letting me know that you're a schizo. Does someone make an Ys X thread every single day too?
>>748891104This is just Final Fantasy combat with PERSONA!Which is not a bad idea but then why not use a job class system directly then?I dont get it. It's like they dont trust their protagonists to have enough star power to draw an audience in so they need PERSONA!(s) of Cloud, my Waifu Lightning Claire Farron, Terra, Aerith, etc.
>>748950756Because it was a gacha
>>748950664Anime realism means like FF10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16its idealized heightened beauty aspirational realism
>>748950794Because those are expensive as fuck and you need 10 years to make one or else why won't we see more like these every 2 years or so?
>>748950756It's a quick cash grab asset flip of an EoS'd gacha game. The "persona" was the gimmick I guess.
>>748950794>>748950706Plus diofield
>>748913174>World of Final Fantasy was not supposed to be a serious FF, it was supposed to be it's own fun thing where boomers go "hey, I remember that" at the chibi characters.Yet for all the lighthearted memberberries, WoFF has a plot that grows more serious and dark than basically every other game in the franchise.
>>748950838well make them idc how long it takes! And have Sakaguchi direct some of the gameplay beats take inspiration from FF5 the job class system was pretty good how it all gets inherited on job class mastery. I'm ok with Nomura being the story director idc. His idea on making a FF based on the war on Terror would have been very kino / cinema / artistic, etc.
>>748913174>Meanwhile FF Resonance entire gimmick is that "FF is finally turn based again"No, pretty sure Resonance's gimmick is also memberberries that you're supposed to soiface at while one of the main characters calls the other one a "jabroni"
>>748950918>Well make themThen wait half a decade or more.
>>748951043Resonance has its own story though
Going only by famous titles:Final Fantasy (1987)Final Fantasy 2 (1988)Final Fantasy 3 (1990)Final Fantasy 4 (1991)Romancing SaGa (1992)Final Fantasy 5 (1992)Secret of Mana (1993)Romancing Saga 2 (1993)Final Fantasy 6 (1994)Live a Live (1994)Chrono Trigger (1995)Trials of Mana (1995)Romancing SaGa 3 (1995)Super Mario RPG (1996)Final Fantasy 7 (1997)Final Fantasy Tactics (1997)Xenogears (1998)Parasite Eve (1998)Final Fantasy 8 (1999)Chrono Cross (1999)Vagrant Story (2000)Final Fantasy 9 (2000)>Square enters the stock exchange hereFinal Fantasy 10 (2001)Kingdom Hearts (2002)Final Fantasy 11 (2002)Final Fantasy 10-2 (2003)Final fantasy Tactics Advance (2003)>Square merges with ENIXKingdom Hearts 2 (2005)Drige of Cerberus (2006)Final Fantasy 12 (2006)Crisis Core (2007)Dissidia (2008)Final Fantasy 13 (2009)Birth by Sleep (2010)Final Fantasy 14 (2010)Final Fantasy 0 (2011)Final Fantasy 13-2 (2011)Dragon Quest 10 (2012)Lightning Returns (2013)Dragon Quest 11 (2016)Kingdom Hearts 3 (2019)Final Fantasy 7 Remake (2020)Final Fantasy 16 (2023)Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth (2024)If you ever have your own company and care about games as art than you do money never go into stock market trading anons.
>>748950394Post that hog (๑>•๑)
>>748951096...so does WoFF, what's your point?
>>748932948But anon... you're the one who's coping.
