I am never listening to wait chuds ever again. Holy shit.
>>748870669>clingy Its "stingy" you brown shit
>32GB of RAM went from $100 to $400Yeah sure the price went up a lot percentage-wise but that additional $300 is only like 6 hours of work at a real adult job. You DO have a real adult job, right?
>>748870597>people making a ton of money off of high memory prices say no end in sight to the situation making them a ton of moneyshocking
>>748870669I only spend like 2 hours a day gaming & nothing that needs more than 16gb is even worth playing on pc
>>748870597I know making processors is a big deal and a protected market with hyper expensive custom built precision machines, but how hard is it to make ram?
>>748870669Imagine avatarfagging and being brown
>>748870669Why do I need so much ram to play 18+ year old games?
>>748870597>he listens to retardsLMAOI upgraded to a 7800x3d, a new MoBo and got some DDR5 all for about 400 last yearFeelsgoodman
Aren't these companies under investigation, or does that mean fuckall in the Trump era where you can be as open and outward about your greed and corruption and nothing happens to you?
>>748870597>>748870669what are u even gonna do with all that ram on ur 5070? Play hentai on ultra?
ive been saying it for years, wait fags are RETARDS.ALWAYS splurge on things you care about.
>>748871227Under investigation for what? Selling too many products? Being unable to keep up with the demand? You want to jail the few people that can make this hardware? Are you retarded?
>>7488705972 more weeks bro just trust me
>>748870986>but how hard is it to make ram?not hard there just isn't enough factories to match the demand and there's wont be for years. ai became a global arms for shit like the next gen of unmanned warfare and attacking other countries infrastructure. by now we've all seen how fragile that is when one dipshit at crowdstrike pushes one bad patch.
>>748871342Under investigation for price fixing and market manipulation you total fucking retard kill yourself.
>>748870597It's never coming down by the way
True waitCHADS knew what was coming and bought after the 50 series released and stocked up on memory and storage and are comfortably set up. Leftbehindchuds missed the boat.
>>748870597Gamers voted for this.
>>748871283Generate Dianas
>>748871072you need at least 32gb RAM minimum to reliably generate AI videos locally
>>748871460Ok so you're a seething retard who doesn't understand markets. Good to know.
>>748871776You can just download her 3d model
>>748870859You said the same thing 2 years ago, now my 200,- 64gb ddr5 kit is going for 1450,-
>>748873442download this 3d model
>>748871797RAM or VRAM?
>>748874361RAM. VRAM is another monstrosity entirely
>>748870597>waitfagsName a bigger lolcow crew.The funniest part is that if the "bubble" ever pops, it will just mean the prices will briefly go down like 20-30%, despite the fact they've gone up 300-400% during the last years.Sorry, but if you didn't build your high end PC 4 years ago, you are never going to have one that cheap.
>>748874913don't care, still waiting.
>>748875048To never own a PC? Cool I guess.
They need computer parts to inflate like the auto industry. They want you dead and poor unable to do anything and will make some bank in the process of hyper inflating goods.
>>748870597everyone and their mother told you to build last year when gpus started to dip (a little) under msrpnow grit your teeth spend the few hundred extra dollars and stop making shitty ops whining about your poor purchasing decisions
who the fuck ever told you to wait for memory? it used to be "its so cheap you dont even have to worry about it" what am i a fucking fortune teller
Waitfags are the equivalent of bagholders.They fucked up big and everybody knows it, but their ego and lack of inteligence stops them from acknowledging it, so they just double down to the bitter end like the low IQ tards they are.
>>748870597total AI slop and corpos death
>>748874361RAM. The regular ram is to hold the model for quick access, the VRAM is doing the actual generating via complex magic smoke processes which I assume involve "routines" "interpolation" and other Important Words
>>748870597>he waitedLMAO
>>748875786I-I'll wait until 2029 when the prices go down 20%And please, don't remind me they gone up 200% from now or I'll kms!
>>748870597
>>748870669You really are brown.
>>748870597They'll eventually uncouple consumer electronics from ai one
It's not to late to join the train as we make our way to $2,000
>>748870597just keep waiting
>>748876630Wait so the prices keep going up?
>>748876931just wait
>>748876963For what?
>>748877010wait and see
>>748870597So this video in a nutshell. https://youtube.com/shorts/AtfCNkT9VK8
>>748877032Can you actually provide a logical reason?
>>748877107yeah wait a minute
but you can put Mario in Elden Ring now though, so it's worth it
>>748877151I've waited a minute, please now share your reason
>>748870597You listened to them?
>>748871227>in the Trump era where you can be as open and outward about your greed and corruption and nothing happens to you?as opposed to that time when america wasn't owned by jewish corporations that were openly corrupt? do you know how this niggering country was made?
>Imagine not building your PC with decent specs to begin withI hope to never shit the bed that hard again.Learn from your mistakes anon.
>>748870597They are wrong because the Chinese are catching up and will soon flood the market with their own stuff.https://archive.is/OqeF0
>>748877474and then the don sanctions them, and bans chinese ram from purchase in america, because his owners can't let china in on the ground floor when ai collapses in america, and no one can go back to the consumer market when china sweeps the whole thing.
remember these days when SK Hynix come begging for US government bailouts and subsidies when CXMT blows them the fuck out of the water.
>>748877519And thats okay because they will still ruin the Chinese ram market. Leaving more western Ramsticks for Western consumers which were previously sold to the Chinese.
>>748877519Wouldn't work. Companies of all kinds use too much and want the price to go down. Nvidia and very small handful of other companies are basically the only ones making money right now because AI spending has produced extremely low revenue streams for the cost of materials and maintenance. Those companies would spend everything they have left and sic their jewish overlords on any politician that tries to prevent chinese RAM from dropping the price in the name of nationalism or whatever.
I support Trump. If Trump says funding AI over consumer hardware is more important, then so be it. I will never ever buy a chinese produced RAM stick, even if it will be 10 times cheaper.
>>748870853>work 6 hours to pay for being raped by jews
>>748870597>he was a waitcelcouldn't have been me post rona
You just aren't waiting hard enough.
>>748870597when the bubble bursts and inventories are at fire sale, just like after the crypto bubble (its the same miner retards behind the ai bubble btw) you'll be complaining you didnt listento the wait bros
>>748877245ameriga was always jew's property dumbassthey're just lying to your in your school history lessons to make you think there's something worth working for so you dont give up completely
>>748870986The main issue is there's quite literally RAM cartels that have fixed the supply to keep prices (more) insane. Our only hope is China in the somewhat near future manages to make cheap RAM, where you trade stability for not having to pay an arm and a leg. Or the AI shit could cool down, but good luck with that.
>>748877519>In the future, Canadians will smuggle Chinese RAM into the US.
>>748878950that's one of the primary reasons trump wants canada, china is taking everything in canada right now.
>>748878684if the bubble bursts I feel like we're gonna have problems so big that computers getting cheaper isn't going to actually be good news anymorethe economy is basically held up by these AI companies and data centers
>>748878997I mean it'd be the same as any depression. Shit gets bad for about 5-10 years and then stabilizes. AI isn't required for general society to function. It also hasn't actually generated any profit whatsoever. I hope the bubble deflates sooner rather than later, because then things will stabilize faster.
>>748878847I've explained this before, yes the prices are retarded in part because they're taking advantage of it, no it's not strictly because RAM manufacturers aren't making more chips.This AI thing could collapse next year, tomorrow, whenever. It takes years and billions and billions to build a factory addition, let alone a new state of the art one.Nobody is going to pledge a 50 billion and 3+ year cost when nobody knows if the market conditions will turn that into a sustained profit, or turn it into a huge loss of wasted idle capacity.On top of that DRAM doesn't do two things: 1. doesn't scale down in the newer technologies enough to provide enough of more chips per wafer or capacity per chip to make financial sense. Going from Micron's 1y (12-14nm scale class production) to a 3nm might get you 20% more chips per wafer or 4GB instead of 3GB per chip. DRAM transistors cannot scale in size the way processor transistors/processor SRAM transistors scale in size.2. DRAM's physical structure just stops working right when the nanosize capacitors of a bit cell get that small. They get so small they leak out the electric charge that makes a "1" faster than it is supposed to refresh. The "fix" for this requires refreshing the RAM so much it needs to eat 5-7x the power, which causes a heat problem, which limits the speed, which limits the refresh rate possible, which ultimately makes the DRAM impossible.Are micron hynix et. al. cocksucking gooks? Yes, fuck them.Are all of the price problems simply from intentional assraping? No. Very unfortunately, no.
what makes me mad about this ai bubble shit is how easy it would have been to get rich off of this shit but I didn't. I should have known to invest in it and yet I didn't. It's literally so obvious in hindsight, band being an epic gamer knowing nvidia.. I had the money to invest 10k in 2018 and that would have been enough to make me loaded
>>748870853Nigger all the jobs are given to faggots and mudshits.
>>748870597Just wait till 2028. It's almost 2027. What's the rush. There hasn't been a good new game in years
>>748871545This, just like graphics cards never came down
>>748879473type of shit happens all the time. every decade since stonks were invented there's been one or three miracle gains anyone could have invested in. Just going by "recent" things we have Msoft, apple, google, bitcoin, AMD's meteoric rise, nvidia, etc, tesla, now the ai stuff.It happens all the time.instead of beating yourself up about it make a plan - save up a savings account and look for the next big one that will pay off in 5-10 years. and dont worry about the amount, it dont matter if all you can scrape up ten years from now is $1,000. getting 20 grand for free from it later is good.
>>748879684I'll try but I feel like if I missed nvidia, I'll miss whatever the next thing is. Because nvidia is as I said the epic gamer stonk, it was literally in my face and I somehow didn't think to do it. But I'll try
>>748870597>cake store says they have so many orders that you simply have to pay 350 dollars + tip if you want one
>>748870597>4690K>16gb DDR3 RAM>gtx970>500gb SSDName 1 (One) game that my spec can't run that's worth playing.
Crypto was the most obvious example that waitfagging was retarded. It hasn't been a valid choice since like 2015 or so.That said, you're also not really gated by newer hardware, because of how limited it was for so long MOST games are still targetting the 3000 series, anything requiring 4k/5k is pretty much just dlss shit.
>>748879837actually no, for once name games (You) play on your shitbox
>>748871330No, waiting was viable strategy in past when you could wait a year and buy hardware for half price, but that was before money spending retards created corporations that own 99% of global wealth and can just buy everything for prices ordinary people cannot afford.
>>748879892Currently playing Warcraft 3 campaign, EU4 (Karabakh > Armenia), Evil Genius, and BG3 multi with 2 friends. Will replay homeworld after W3.
>>748877474>retarded fags still parrot this shit Chinks openly said they wont undercut anything they sell at same price since why wouldnt they and CMXT already maxed out capacity and cant even keep up with domestic demand.
just wait a little longer, browait till your life is over; time means nothing at all
>>748877194patience is a virtue
>>748870597Buy a console then.It's not like graphics matter to you, right?
>>748878997You mean american economy. Its mutts who invest trillions into datacenters while even chinks just take it slower and have proper expansion pipeline.
PS6 is going to be a marginally faster console than 5, with frame generation aka fake performancethe next nvidia GPUs are probably not even going to be faster than the 5000 series, it'll just be more AI trickery.And it'll be thousands of dollars. This is the new normal. The ps6 is going to be bare minimum $1500
>>748880014actual games, good for you
>>748870853where the fuck are you people getting 50 dollars an hour
>>748880078Only when there's a named reason behind it. If not it's mental retardation.
>>748880368Like 26% of US is over that line which is a shitton of people.
>>748878847>Our only hope is ChinaThey already told everyone that they'll sell at market rate, so gl with that hope
>ram shortage>ram shortage>ram shortagethey cried>go to buy ram>can buy all I want, can get it with next day shipping, the prices are just highHmmm, im nooticing
>>748880978>nobody wants to but absurdly overpriced stock that is already there unless they have no other choiceYou are such a little noticer anon, so proud of you
>>748870597of course their executives will say that. they want to sustain their 90% profit margin they were boasting about, and that's only possible if everyone believes that RAM has reached maximum scarcity and it will never get better again, ever.now I let you figure out for yourself if a field with a 90% profit margin is a good target for new competitors and what that will do to the market by yourself.although I'd plan for more than just 3-4 months of waiting time
>>748879257>>no it's not strictly because RAM manufacturers aren't making more chips.>the same industry that has been repeatedly fined for price fixing is totally not price fixing this time, where prices have quadrupled
>>748881420>anon can materialize new fabs in 3-4 monthsGodspeed Mr Manhattan
>>748881253>supply was all bought up, sowwy :(>here is some supply you can buy :D
>>748870853It's about cost v. performance, yeah having an extra 32 would probably improve some performance metrics, but I have better things to spend 400 bucks on.
>>748882142Production capacity was bought up you fucking retard. As in they are not making new consumer grade ram in the same volume any time soon.
>>748879823>I'll miss whatever the next thing is.good, so I'll tell you what the next thing isBuy Anthropic and OpenAI at IPO. No matter how big the IPO bump is, no matter how overpriced it seems, buy it anyway. Everyone and their mother will tell you shit is scams and crypto and pump-and-dump. They are coping. They've been coping for 2 years straight and they're still talking about "WHEN the bubble bursts". They have been right 0% of the last two years. They'll keep being in denial while both companies are literally printing money (yes, the costs are high, but only because they setting money on fire to train the next model, which as it turns out makes the 10x the amount the training costs anyway.)You are upset that you missed the boat. I am telling you right now, anonymous person on this mongolian basket-weaving internet bulletin board: this is the next boat. I am handing you that information right now. It will seem obvious in retrospect. Take action.
>>748876931And is never dropping
>>748880368My salary works out to around $54.80/hr.
>>748870597just wait till 2030everything will be dirt cheap
>>748882331>>748882142
>>748870597DDR5 came out in July of 2020You're paying a premium + shortage tip + go fuck yourself our CEO needs another yacht tax for seven year old off the shelf leftovers
We are entirely phasing out of RAM being made for customers at all. The big tech companies all want us to have only minimal reception devices that would stream all the computing from data centers and only use cloud storage.
Lol all the FOMO surrounding ram makes me think prices are going down soon, either way already got mine last year
>>748872826It's an oligopoly and they have been hit with fines for price fixing before. He has a point albeit crude one.
>>748871460Price fixing?Market Manipulation?Nigga doesnt understand supply and demandSupply if chips has been the same for a long timeNew industry comes in and wants to buy as much as they canDemand increases, prices go up
>>748876007Is this sloppa?
>>748883378https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_10_586You are clueless.
>>748870853Yeah it is weird american or western europeans ever allowed to complain about anything. They are rich beyond measure and can afford anything with ease. Anything they complain about is a hundred times worse everywhere else.
>>748883467
>>748880368Any normal country lmfao sorry your poor?
We CHUDS are the only ones who are still sane right now.We must end this faggot world together.Come forth and rise up, CHUDCHADS.
>>748884465The UK and most of Europe are predominantly second/third world economies enrobed in former splendor, so yes
>>748883467Do the needful saar
>>748870597Just wait.
>>748874361You can gen videos on low VRAM (10 GB, t. this anon who gen porn with Wan and Minimax) but it's very clumsy, and you can only do somewhat low res and low duration, like 720p for 7 seconds and it takes a while because most of the model is deported to the CPU.You can upscale the vid and patch your 7 seconds video together but again - clumsy.There are setups for extremely low VRAM (like 8GB or even less, low quants, lightningx loras) but by this point you're losing in quality/prompt following.24 GB is really more comfortable, 16 GB I'd call the minimum if you don't want too much hassle.
>>748883463EUOh no, it's retarded.Let me know when real countries have a problem with it and not the United Arab Cuckdoms
>>748878847>Our only hope is China in the somewhat near future manages to make cheap RAMThe cartel will probably get cheap chinese memory banned on grounds of national security or something retarded like that.
>>748880368at my real union based job and not your mcjob
>>748871460>price fixing and market manipulationFaggot that's not what's happening. In a few years, once they can produce enough to meet demand, and if prices don't decrease then sure. But now? Companies are literally buying hardware that hasn't been built yet. Eurofags live in retard world
>>748871715in most nations there are no options that wouldn't have been all in on ai
>>748870597implying you impulse buying manchild didn't had the opportunity to get whatever you want and now that price increased due to corporoids you shit and piss yourselfbuying hardware to current inflated scalping prices makes you look a complete down syndrome retardnext time instead of complaining and pushing fault at someone else buy a sturdy $5 rope and neck yourself
>>748887010>corporoidsThe price increased due to governments giving themselves a psychotic obsession with ai over geopolitics
>>748870597Its not really ram any longerStorage has gotten a decent spike last year and in the last 6 months all GPU have gone up 200-400€ (5090 withstanding)I bought a 5060TI for a client 5 months ago for 488€, right now cheapest one on pcpp is listed at 789€What in the fuck
>>748887042the gov knows exactly what they're doing retardthey give tax beaks for those corporoids in hope for a bigger tax return once the ball gets rolling which hasn't happened and chances are it never will, they can't even complete a fucking data center build out, have billions in debt in energy Nvidia has one of the most insane tax debts, including many other companies that are being financed in circular ponzi scheme, without them doing this you'd wouldn't even heard a word about this worthless AI garbage of empty promises. Gov is obsessed with it because they hope to employ more since they need debt slaves, as a Corporoid you push the tax amount to your employees while you pay only fraction of it, but not every person is a software engineer, sys admin, electrical engineer etc. which they need for those fucking data centers.
>>748870597>The bubble will not burst goym BUY NOW BUY NOW.Kill yourself.
>>748870597You need to lurk harder doomer. Seriously.
>>748877423>64gb ram>ddr4Anon...
>vote to own nothing and be happy>wait wtf do you mean I have to own nothing and be happy now
>>748888276>you can't fight it, you just have to go with itNot even a controversial claim and it'd be true and correct even if NiggerHarris or Sleepy Joe said it
>>748880835Which means 74% is under that line which is a metric fuck ton of good people that deserve better
>>748888276Surely people don't just lie down and get data centered
>>748888276When the AI bubble bursts, how cheap will the RAM sticks get?
>>748888276Where is the "be happy" part though
>>748889751If you think Micron, Samsung and Hynix are going to let go of their profits, you're retarded. The price will never come down, regardless if the bubble pops or not.
>>748889751(((They)))'ll probably just destroy all overstock to keep the racket going.
>>748889756They updated it. You'll own nothing and you don't need to be happy.
>>748870669Aquajeet caught being a retarded subhuman again lmao
>>748880368$50 an hour barely exceeds $100,000 a year.Like, it's a good wage, enough to live comfortably in most of the US, but not crazy high.
Waitfags are getting raped for the last 10 years and they still did not learn.I still remember some retarded shitstain making fun of me for buying an MSRP RTX3080 and not waiting for TI and SUPER editions. Right after 3080 release the gpu market got assraped even harder than today. Currently sitting on a very close to MSRP 5090 Astral btw
>>748889751>When the AI bubble burstsHow do such delusional retards even exist.
Wait till 2029
>>748870853Jobs are for people who don't have any other thing going in their lifes.
>>748871460sorry anon, /v/ doesn't understand that it is actually illegal to take out trillions in loans on zero collateral to buy out the entire production capacity of a producer. especially when the parties involved all jerk each other off under the table and give kickbacks to politicians. it's a lawless time.
>>748883467Holy fuck this board really is being overrun by indians
>>748889751They'll just lie lmao
>>748892717This.>there's no more demand for these luxury goods anymore, goyim, so the price has to stay high
Just wait 2 more weeks until the bubble bursts bro
>>748880368It's all larp, like how everyone here is "white"
>>748870597JUST GET A FUCKING JOBSTOP COMPLAINING AND STOP HOLDING BACK PROGRESS
>>748870597Crazy that my PC has appreciated in value since I bought it years ago. I wish I got 128gbs of RAM, but 64 has been serving me well.
>>748870853kids nowdays are lazy af and wants everything for free
>>748892761What progress? Quality for nearly every consumer product has been sinking across the board for over 30 years now. They can only make shit so cheaply and the only thing AI will be used for in a legitimate sense is to spy on you.
>>748870597Sucks that I didn't buy a PC a little earlier but whatever, I got Switch 2 in the meantime so I can wait. This will absolutely destroy PS6/PS handheld and permanently alter gaming. I see no reason why Nintendo wouldn't bring back a home console after the crisis is over and just take over gaming. There's only gonna be Nintendo and PC left. Xbox is basically already dead
>>748892837ai allow everyone to be a great artist and soon people can generate their dream game in just few seconds
In 2024 I got:4080 Super for $99914900KS for $70032GB RAM $140Will this much FPS be that price ever again?
>>748893073This is the most Indian post I've ever read.
>>748893074Its going to be years if not decades. You bought at the last opportune moment. AI bubble will pop, returning memory prices to normal with ~5 year delay after the fact. No AI isnt going away. Just like dotcom bubble, the overvaluation will be corrected and AI stays in relevant use-cases
>>748870597These people laughed at me for buying a switch 2 day 1. Im getting the ps6 on release
Still sticking with my 5700X3D and 32GB of DDR4, thanks.
>>748870597>he waitedI was all-in on a new computer build when Trump won again. Great opportunities await for the ones who put aside neoliberal politics and realize our jewish pedo masters are actually retarded
>>748870597Imagine your business being run by people who think failing to meet demand is the best strategy. What the fucking point of going to college and getting a business degree if you're just going to do that.
>>748888086yeah I bought it 6 years ago when I bought the i9, do you think I have a fucking time machine?I used to play modded minecraft and host a server, now not so much.
32gb of DDR4 & 5800x, waiting for AM6you don't need more unless you play competitive slop at 360hz
CPU progress is so slow that at this point you can skip an entire memory generation while still having close to high-end performance
>>748893347the current API-driven model is unlikely to survive though, which is the underlying justification for these retardedly inflated prices.
>>748893924why would they try to produce more if they can pump up the numbers and goyim will still buy it? they get their money either way
>>748870853If everyone thought like you the price would be $40000. Enjoy being raped and not complaining.
>>748870853>just get raped for 6 hours longeruhhhh no
>>748893924thats just capitalism
>>748894730to be fair nothing is going to stop those cunts at Micron from pumping the price up anyway.shit just sucks.
>>748870853Fuck off, Shlomo.
>>748870597I'll just keep waiting
>>748870853>Yeah sure the price went up a lot percentage-wise but that additional $600 is only like 12 hours of work at a real adult job. You DO have a real adult job, right?>Yeah sure the price went up a lot percentage-wise but that additional $1200 is only like 24 hours of work at a real adult job. You DO have a real adult job, right?>Yeah sure the price went up a lot percentage-wise but that additional $2400 is only like 48 hours of work at a real adult job. You DO have a real adult job, right?>Yeah sure the price went up a lot percentage-wise but that additional $4800 is only like 96 hours of work at a real adult job. You DO have a real adult job, right?
>>748879580Sooo youre lower than a faggot and darkie? Hmmm
>>748894879Libs? Owned -- and that's all that matters.
>>748870597>waitfags
>>748883467>just throw your money around you have so much!That is why you will remain poor
>>748878127I too love taking jewish cock in my ass
>>748889612nah fuck those guys
>>748870853kek
Still waiting Nope. Ain't getting out of this chair
My coworker wants to buy a 5090, should I buy his 4090 and upgrade my 4080S? Is it worth it?99% of the time I only play Nightreign in 4k High and have no issues, but you never know what cool games will come out soon.
>>748889662lol ofc thats whats going to happen, gen-z can never revoltAlso why do you think AI is being pushed so hard along with mass surveillance? If any future gens even attempt to gather for wrongthink they'll be busted before the word "change" exits their mouth
>>748897231>gen-z can never revoltHave you noticed how many 'elites' have been getting assassinated lately?
Good news is more fabs will be made and coming online in a few years. Bad news is the price will only go down about half of the price it's inflated right now, they'll be diverting production to DDR6 to keep BOTH high.
>>748871776You don't need a 50 series for that
>AI company posted loss of billion dollarsif prices don't drop then its all fake and gay
>>748870597To be fair, no one expected a handful of kikes kiking even the rest of the kikes this hard
JUST WAIT
genuinely hoping the chinks flood the market with so much memory that all the fucking gooks and micron go bankrupt
>>748870853I don’t make real money like that but I could work off an iPad Pro in 2 weeks if I don’t buy anything else besides bare necessities
>>748871227I mean strictly speaking this has been an issue going on for a long time.If you wanna just talk about releasing LLMs as a cancer on the internet that goes back to like 2000 when the democrat party was trialing whether they were going to fuck up race or sex relations by accusing half the country of hating blacks or women, and the computer components shit was getting fucked around the time the 1080ti released and when Nvidia still had remotely competent people working there they basically hit the peak of what you'd need for decent looking games which is why everything since has been retarded gimmicks like raytracing or AI upscaling even before blowing the smoke up the ass of shitcoins and nfts so they could officially scalp their own hardware>Erm are you a boNo I just have the capacity to recognize this issue doesn't begin and end right here and right now.
>>748870853>you should pay more money just because Post nose
>>748878997Good, burn it down and put some kikes on pikes for letting it get this bad in the first place.
>>748870597Retards will call this a chip or memory cartel.Meanwhile, China and even the biggest tech companies can't even compete or produce their own chips.
>>748878997>the economy is basically held up by these AI companies and data centersOther way around, these data centers and AI companies "make so much money and have so much debt" because they've inflated the fuck out of the monetary system.The economy doesn't strictly rely on them.Most of the damages are going to be eaten by the investment class, and unfortunately people with 401ks and state retirement plans.
Has waiting for prices to come down EVER worked since 2018 except for basic food maybe?
>>748870597We're just getting startedYou better buy now because this is the cheapest PCs will ever be
>>7488935625600X 16GB
Imagine thinking things would EVER improve! At least you learned your lesson, right?
>>748902141They will improve the moment I'll die.
>>748870853>Yeah sure the price went up a lot percentage-wise butboggles my mind how dumb motherfuckers like you are allowed to post here.
>>748870597>listening to south americans and subcontinentals on this godforsaken board
>>748897103Your coworker sounds like a fucking retard
Why didnt you buy already. Are you stupid
>>748870853Here's your (You), stupid ass.
>>748889751>RAM sticksNone of the RAM is on sticks, retard.
so what am i gonna do if one of my parts breaks
>>748870853real adults would rather turn that $300 saved into $600 you child
>>748885595Son, the DOJ first probed it back in 2002. EU was a follow-on once one of the manufactures copped to it in US (since 1st in leniency means 100% reduction in fines). The DRAM market is now smaller than ever, think it was 5-6 competitors back in 2000s, now it's a threeway oligopoly.Again, you have zero idea what's what and yet I hear you speak? You reek of reddit anyhow.You also have no clue that there's a recent probe into the same market happening right now in US, into price fixing, again. We'll see what's up once discovery is over but given the extreme price hikes and less than a handful of competitors, chances are they are running a scheme again. With the profit that stands to be made they 100% have a budget on the side for legal fees and/or a fine to absorb into the net inflow.I'd wait until you're a legal adult before engaging with anyone, should save you some embarrassment.
>>748870597remember when waitfags said the AI bubble would pop and prices would crash?LMAOOOO
honestly the new moneymaking method is hitting pc stores for GPUs and RAM and fencing it on eBay I'm waiting for niggas to pick up on this so I can get some new parts for a fair price
>>748870597Can we just kill all ai jeets and kikes
they locked china out of production.of course they can name any price they want and you'll pay for it like a goyslave.
>>748889828But people just won't buy RAM unless it's bare minimum, that's how the economy works.
price will probably never come down because all you retards just keep buying shit at ridiculous prices>why yes, I DO want to buy a GPU for 5k, fuck me right up my faggot ass!
>>748907370https://www.techpowerup.com/353071/nvidia-rtx-5090-sells-out-at-walmart-for-usd-4-299-after-10-000-shoppers-add-it-to-cartlmao
>>748906912I'M TIRED OF BEING TREATED LIKE A SLAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>he waitedPUMP IT
>>748877474chyna wirr save computer pri-AACCCCKKKKKKK
>>748870853Post your build and I’ll post enough money to buy the same thing but better if I wanted to. Just because I can doesn’t mean I want to, and I don’t and still won’t for a good long while and honestly I’m not all that future proofed but then again I don’t care if modern slop is 1440p 144fps or 0.
>>748870597just wait for china to rugpull the us economy
>He didn't get 64 gb ram and at least 8tb of nvme drives as a coping mechanism when it was dirt cheap during gpu price hike 3 years ago or so
>>748906381Oh noThey probed itNot a probeSoon they'll send a strongly worded letterThat'll show themOh boy, they bombshelled it, they got slammed. I mean five red alarm light emojis.The walls have closed inAn oligopolyWow thats badOh waitIt came about because vram sales had basically been stagnant and prices werent going up enough to keep them afloat with the meager sales they were getting so other manufacturers closedGee, sucks that was a natural part of the market and not a conspiracyOh well, i guess the only options are to make it worseNot incentivize new companies and protecting them from this supposed oligopolyShut up Bernie, no one uses oligopoly but you old crusty jew assLet me know when a real country does somethingThey wontThey cantTheres not solution other than spending hundreds of billions to make more manufacturers and only the IS or China could afford to do that, the rest of the NPC countries of no value and influence will just have to sit back and let the countries that matter run things.As always
>>748908807>He didn't started hustlin when he was pushed fresh out of the pussy to earn capital to invest in bitcoin to slurp that sweet peak price and drop bags to move capital to nvidia stocks to never have to worry about money again.Ngmi
It's only going to get worse because the facilities that supplied about half the world's helium in Russia and Qatar have been outright destroyed or heavily damaged and will take years to come back online.
>>748894730actually that is how every american thinks and that is why 400$ 100 years ago is now $40000
>>748878127>I support the demented child molester and his policies that make my life actively worse.What is this mental illness called?
I lost...
>>748870597i just waited until i could afford it, waiting is fucking dumb especially when every computer part has had a scare or a permanent markup
Trump wants data centers when he can’t even pass the SAVE act or border wall. And the midterms are looking dire for these fossils
>>748893754Good news is that the motherfucker had at least one stroke, judging by his droopy jaw and the fact he can't even walk straight anymore. And if you had one stroke, chances of having another one drastically increases. Especially if your diet consists of greasy food and soda that clogs your arteries. His infusions can only keep him alive for so long. We might be looking at another stroke very soon and it might be the one that puts his lights out for good. And god, it will be glorious.
Meanwhile these very same ai data centers can go rogue and teach you terrorism like what happened in china
>>748910219It's called being a real patriot, not that you'd know anything about that.
>>748901119>his basis for an expensive luxury item is a phone/tabletSAAAAAAR
>>748911139No, it's called being a fucking retard. A patriot would want to improve his country, not take a fat shit in it.
>>748874198I hate that I like this
This timeline sucks. We're basically living in a cyberpunk dystopia, without any of the cool shit.
>>748870597waitCHADS will win in 2029. Hold the line boys.
who the fuck has ever said to wait to buy RAM, you buy it on an as-needed basis
>>748874198what's she saying?
>>748870853holy bootlicker cope
>>748874198I used to use Grok to make videos like this since it was the only free uncucked AI video platform, then they made it paid only so I had to stop. I'm not giving Electronic Muskrat any money.
How many times do civilizations have to target a particular group of people, before people wake up and realize maybe said group really are the problem?
>>748911672poor people are the problem
>>748911672Capital owners haven't been really targeted so far, but I hope it's happening soon.
>>748892429That's pretty fucking high. The median household income in the US is $87k. That's between a couple.
American's don't have any spare cash anymore. Anyone who works in manufacturing knows that you can sell stuff to europeans, but not americans. Zero purchasing power, not below the super rich at any rate.
>>748870597I hope so. My skhynix/ai stongs need to print me more money. I am glad I dont need any upgrades right now kek
