It begins https://x.com/chrisfirst/status/2105728947724157229
Perhaps he should've just prompted something original instead?
>>748889820AI can't do that.
I guess this is what happens when you outsource your critical thinking to LLMs
but you can't sue AI... or can you?
game studios had so much fucking time to just get their shit together and give people what they were asking for, and never did. instead they scolded everyone and told them "you THINK you want this, but you really don't!"now anyone can just make what they want themselvesi have no sympathy for game devs and i hope this is the catalyst for the next crash
>>748889820>fan games:O>fan games (after AI)NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE LE HECKIN ORIGINALPic related is one of my favorite games of all time and it's literally just megaman battle network 7 with 2hu sluts
Why do AIbros always have this attitude?Didn't Bethesda also announce they're making new games???
>>748890257they announced someone else is. they're "remaking" 3 and nv. which will probably take years and be worse.
>>748890190the game looks like horseshit
>>748890232>google Shanghai Exe>"The original developer got a C&D from Capcom and shut everything down"Maybe not the best argument you could've made
>>748889661Can't you just say it's a non-profit parody and ignore the court letters?
>>748890480noand this guy is an ai grifter selling courses and a patreon anyways
>>748890232Nintendo shuts down fan games all the time. The guy could just say "inspired by Fallout" and be free to release his game but he had to call it Fallout New York.
Good. I hope all AI grifters are arrested by the system they prop up through their acquiescence.
>>748889862Neither can the corporations>>748890389
What's with AIfags not sounding human?
>>748890889It's an Indian using an AI generated voiceover
niggas will put out shit like Shelter but not give us a small game like thatSHAME!
>>748890889meat proxies only communicate through LLM generated text
>>748890525Declare bankruptcy and make a new startup
>>748890232Non ai fans do projects for passion and fun, aibros do projects for clout and cash. That is why the former appreciates creatives and why the latter will always have contempt for them ( >>748890257 ).It is the same difference between gamers and scalpers.
>>748889661These people are fucking retarded.Stop using copyrighted franchises if you don't want to get shut down, this is regardless of AI.Is it really that hard to use original designs? With generative AI you don't even have the technique or talent excuse anymore.You don't need the fallout branding to make a good game.
This shit cost 100k to prompt by the way
>>748891291big if true
>>748891268How else are they going to get any attention then
>>748889820What's original about Fallout?
>>748889661kiddos acting as le hackers now that they borrow daddy money for tokens.Now they feel like gods for making twitter posts and getting some pity viewsThis is the same as being an onlyfans whore but being an AI slaveThe internet was a mistake
>>748891348The creator or copyright holder paid for that attention, if you do fan art you're leeching of somebody else's work, the work they did and money they spent to get to that place of popularity.This is fine obviously I'm absolute terms, since you can copy the Iliad, but we're talking about live franchises here, that still want to sell and develop new products. So with this stuff you're potentially competing and even ruin the branding with your fan project.I'm not against personally, even though I don't like fan art since it's lazy, but you're playing with fire if you do.
>>748890889Stop gaslighting
>>748891736he's right, they use llms like a crutch and lack any self-awareness
>>748889661based toddfuck ai shitskins
>>748890525Thats fucking gay
>>748890257No, Microsoft announced that some of their studios will be making Fallout games, and also that 5 will come "eventually".
>>748889661If he's not making money off of this, doesn't this fall under fair use laws? I doubt the courts can do anything.In any case he's a retard for calling it Fallout. Just ship the same thing but call it something else "inspired by Fallout" and bam they can't do shit even more.
>>748890257>so I don't have toBut he didn't.
>copyright striking AI fangames Damn, I sure hope these companies don't use AI to develop their own games, considering how the technology as a whole is fundamentally built on disregarding copyright law.
>>748889820But Bethesda didn't even make fallout originally either
>>748889661>NOOOO I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO STEAL
>>748889820yeah he should've injected some Tony Hawk DNA
>>748890232Notice how it doesn't say megaman anywhere
The future is lawyers using ChatGPT to generate takedown emails for projects made by ChatGPT
>>748889661Lmao what a fag
>>748889661>SEER.>SEER IT FULL FALLOUT GAME>SEER WE WHITES
>>748889661People are missing the fact that the main reason he got this letter was because he made a web domain for his AI project called “fallout.nyc” which you can’t just do. The domain looks official and can be mistaken as a Bethesda domain and so Bethesda is gonna crack down on this guy
lol
>>748893079>hello, i got rich by buying things in demand and selling them for a profit>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU *DOING* BUYING SOMETHING I DEMAND? HELP! POLICE!
>>748892889It actually says megaman during the game credits sequence, which is why it got C&D'd
>>748893235You are completely illiterate
>>748889661Did he expect any other outcome? This was obviously going to happen.
Eat shit AIggers lmao
>didnt just replace everything with a zrookie mistake, zeinimax lawyers are powerless against my zallout 3 and zip boys
>>748893235He wasn’t domain sniping retard, he was hosting a fallout game project on it
>don't use AI>make something original>still get suedPalworld is proof that corporations are evil
>>748891675The other part where he fucked up was releasing it as a browser gameLike if he just threw the game out into the wild as a download Bethesda couldn't do shit to actually stop it but he had to attention whore with his garbage
>>748890257What is with faggots being entitled to games?Bethesda works on one mainline title at a time and they're free to do that. They did Skyrim > Fallout 4 > Starfield and now doing full production of TES 6. If you can't wait that's on you not Bethesda, games don't have to be yearly shitty slop.
>WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE HECKING COPYRIGHT HOLDERS FOR ONCE?!?!
>>748893630Nigga no one cares about your AI project make your own thing
>>748890889@Grok generate me a clever response to this guy, make it sound human, make no mistakes
>>748893630>SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE INDIAN SCAMMERS
>>748890257He is right though, Fallout 4 is 11 years old. Fallout 76 is 8 years old. Where the fuck are the games
>>748889661retard used a copyrighted name, what did he think would happen
>>748893630If you had IQ points you would at least not call it Fallout
>>748889661unless he was selling it the suits cant do shit
being anti-ai art but ok with ai coding is an incoherent position, and it's because artists think programmers have no soul and code doesn't require creativity and they just want to do their little arts indie games without paying a programmer
>>748893850Yes they can retard
>>748893896nope
Why would you not just make it generic post apoc america game?
>>748889661>Ballout new york a fallout inspired game you can play in your brwosershrimple as that
>>748894030because then it wouldn't get the same attention
>>748893764This, he should haved called it something else. Funny that people who love AI so much, are so retarded.
>>748894030then no one would care, you wouldn’t even be talking about it
>>748893206Better than anything Bethesda have squirted out of Todd Howard's nasty fat brown star in the past ten to fifteen years. And you know it's true anon... LONG LIVE FALLOUT NEW YORK
>>748889820ThisOr mod that shit into the games, since they allow to mod them like that
>>748894160ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>748893592Microsoft disagrees.
>>748894089One of LLM's biggest issues really. Its easy to turn it into a crutch for literally every facet of life
>>748894258Exactly
>>748889661AIchads.....Not like this.....
>>748889661but Trump said that AI can do whatever, how can ZeniMax apply IP rights on AI work?
>>748890257Because Fallout 76 and Starfield were so reassuring of their capabilities as game developers?They're making new games, what makes you think they're not going to be complete dumpster fires?
>>748893875>being anti-ai art but ok with ai coding is an incoherent positionShills say this because AI companies can only hope to make money off of coding.It's literally the other way around. Both are bad but AI art is in bad taste, AI code increases technical debt, rusts programmers' skill, introduces a new dependency on AI companies that provide models or Nvidia, and it's seeping into even critical infrastructure that could kill people. Artists are in fact faggots and they are wrong about AI art everything time they make it any more complicated than "it looks like dogshit", but they are way better than codemonkeys rn. Programmers are more accepting of AI slop than anyone else even though they should be the most against it. It's mind boggling seeing so many old open source projects have Claude commits. I don't know if it's the corporate influence or programmers being spineless sci-fi loving bugmen but society is going to pay for it dearly if this lasts for much longer. I'm talking almost civilization ending competency crisis.
>>748894285Trvke
>>748894532die luddie
>>748894528those games are unironically better than this shit
>>748894509That's the fun part, finding out what the law can do to rein it in. Or at least it would be, if Trump wasn't someone who reliably changes course on a dime when someone offers him a bigger bribe.
>>748894720goodcapitalism always winshonor cultures always die off or become irrelevant
Most retarded white man here, did he at least save it? I know people have been trying to mud ass games with ai but is it just some sort of LORA for the ai or is it something with code fully local on his PC now and he was just letting people go to his site to play it? I honestly would have been interested in just toying with it even though it'll likely be baked ass just out of curiosity. I'm not gonna say this is like the era of flash games 2.0 but it certainly is better than what we get now for freeware shit being pushed around.
>>748894285>in the future there will be a large subset of people who offload all thinking and action to AI, trapped in a never-ending recursive slop fractal
>>748894967>in the futureanon....
>>748894998Near future. who knows maybe its within the next hour
>first person "Fallout"Good riddance
>>748892402Fair use apply when you're being fair, this retard is going out of his way to piss off Bethesda on top of using trademarks he doesn't own.Go ahead and try making a new soda named Pepsi while calling it fair use and see what happens
>>748889661>Copyrighted materialSince this project claims to have fabricated everything from AI inference, there would be no copyrighted materials taken from ZeniMax Media.Unless the claim that the AI used has been trained on ZeniMax Media's copyrighted works.An intellectual property infringement on the other hand? Yeah probably, just on the brand likeness.
>>748890889And you think you do?
I love watching trannies, jeets and luddies fight each other over this shit
>>748894703Did you try it and come up with your opinion of it, or did you look at a video / picture and hallucinated 99% of your opinion on the spot from zero personal experience?Graphically it obviously isn't anything to write home about, but everything else from the world to systems is exactly like the thing it's aping off, it is a proof of concept, made by a single personThis is the worst it's ever going to be, it's only up from hereYour ilk constantly keep moving the goalposts when AI keeps advancing rapidly. You are actual clowns
>>748890421Retard. His point is people don't then defend the game companies for shutting it down.
>>748895290>your ilknobody genuinely talks like that, you are not human, you can continue to reply to me but I will not see it
If you're smart, just release the project when it's done and out in the wild. Maybe use monero for donations. Use strictly patreon for original projects.
>>748889661Honestly they should just skip takedowns and take these faggots straight to court. I don't care about your opinion on western devs, AIfaggots don't get leeway because of a different issue.
>>748895379Sorry, but I do use the word "ilk", because it's very fittingI think "your kind" isn't as fitting, because your ilk are genuine subhumans
>>748895546does todd at least pay you or do you just give him a blowjob for free
>>748895638Gee I dunno, does claude tongue your asshole whenever you act like a disingenuous faggot?
>>748895183nyes
>>748895379curious how you completely ignored everything said in the reply and just completely deflected by focusing on an unusual word being usedand you think yourself human? you are the brownest insect itt
>>748895728i'm not the one telling claude to sue some random faggot on shitter because of copyright, so nojudging by your attitude you probably offer your services for free though
>>748893206>still can't do hands rightone gagillian dollars and several years laterstill fucks the hands
Did it get rehosted somewhere?
>>748889661what do you mean it begins? even if they made the assets from code you were basically copying the designs from fallout, this is basically palworld case
>>748889820That implies they were ever capable of doing anything remotely original. Just like the entirity of AI.
>>748895257You're so cool anon, not standing for anything
>Generative AI is just a glorified LLM that can only use information of other shit mixed together>Donald Dumbfuck not only bragged about making "his own" Fallout game but made the domain "Fallout.nyc" >Entirely vibe coded so nonzero chance it's using bits of code from actual Fallout games jury rigged into it, even if it had to render its own textureless assets>"Bethesda has no right and how dare you hypocrites defend them when you attack big companies for C&Ding handcrafted fan efforts!"You're not an artist if you use algorithm slop. You're not a musician if you use algorithm slop. You're not a coder if you use algorithm slop. This shit is a tool to be used incredibly sparingly being sold to idiots as the future of creation and the sooner it dies the sooner tech prices can stablize again.
>>748893592Because fuck copyright, that's why.
>>748896423>You're not an artist if you use algorithm slop. You're not a musician if you use algorithm slop. You're not a coder if you use algorithm slop.the algorithm is considering artists/musicians/coders are losing their jobs to it lmao
>SAR AI IS THE FUTURE OF VIDEOGAMES SAR>look inside>every single "AI genned game" is just a copyright infringement clone of an existing game
>>748896389like what? being mad at people on the internet?
>Claude, open a copyright lawsuit against this guy>Claude, prepare the case to present for the prosecution >Claude, help me prepare my legal defense, Bethesda is suing me>Claude, here is the evidence and the statements from prosecution and defense, who wins and how much do they get allotted
How the NPCs looked like
>>748896604>caring about a mega-corporation's copyrightgrim.
>>748890232I'll take a passion project someone put actual effort into over some slop generated by some faggot with AI any day. Simple as that
>>748890257The last single player Fallout is over a decade old so he's not wrong to hold this opinion desu.
>>748894285It's shocking to see sometimes.I've seen people just ask random chatbots for basic info on things they should know.I genuinely saw a motherfucker ask ChatGPT for how many meters are in a kilometer, you know, that thing that always splits measurement sizes by factors of 10.I'm in a programming course right now just to get the diploma and work-coop access but there's people in here genuinely asking chatbots to give them the functions they need, 90% of the people here can't read documentation.My own father had to ask grok why the choke on his pressure washer wasn't working right, spent 30 minutes fucking around with it looking for something that was never there, and had to get me to figure it out (it's just a shitty design that lets you open it too far which actually closes it again so you just have to lower it a bit).Dad's always been a smart man when it comes to most things, I didn't think I'd ever tell him 'you're too smart to need that shit, use your head man, I know you know how to do that'.The brain's a muscle, if you don't use it, it atrophies and gets weaker.Doing everything through a chatbot is the equivalent of laying in bed all day eating a low protein high calorie diet.
>>748896742>missing the point entirelybrown
>>748890232But le soul!!!!
>>748889661Was this something someone saved so we can still download it and play it?
>>748896530Well yeah, CEOs are some of the biggest retards around and think that doing that shit will lead to equivalent if not superior quality at a lower cost. Instead it'll cost more in tokens for shittier work across the board to which the charlatans who STILL have not achieved ROI yet will simply blame on not enough data centers, not enough rights to break the laws we'd be run into the ground over all the while claiming their glorified LLM will destroy humanity due to being "too smart". We're at a crossroads where either the bubble bursts and we're free from this manmade shitshow or the sunk cost fallacy means we end up setting our fucking world on fire due to a small subset of people desperate to make their scam profitable.
>me when I prompt an AI unplayable game in 1 hour and ready to sell it for 2.99$
>>748889661>blatantly steal copyright protected media>surprised when hit with a dmcaAI dipshits have got to be the biggest retards right now.
>>748896880we don't sign our posts here
>>748893206>somehow made a gun that looks worse than anything Bethesda has ever designed
>>748889661When are they going to dmca the AI models themselves for training on copyrighted works?
>>748894509>but Trump said that AI can do whateverAI can but money can sway the orange pedofile to the corporation over anyone making AIslop of their franchise.
>>748897041Well of course, those things are programmed to rip copyrighted media while telling you how smart and special you are for being an ideas guy.
Why cant people shut the fuck up about fan projects until they are release?
>>748894532The vast majority of coders have a "fuck you got mine" mindset. No shit they try to fuck over their successors.
>>748894285Search engines already do this to some degree since a good one basically replaces your need to get good at detailed and longterm recall. Don't remember something? Google that shit. And do it again tomorrow 'cause you already forgot. Again. LLMs are like the Super Galaxy Propane 9000-X Mega Omega Supreme Nebula brand weed that people smoke today that has something like eight times the psychoactive component of the shit oldheads were smoking after 'Nam. Same shit but the potency's unheard of and we're probably already way past the point we should've slowed the fuck down.
I wonder what made them DMCA this one specifically. Fallout has shitton of good total conversions, fan games etc.
>>748896001Yeah but look. The health bar says HP instead of H46 and the ammo actually shows numbers instead of letters and weird symbols. They're making progress. They just need 80 billion more dollars and they'll be able to make hands with 5 fingers instead of 8
>>748897184probably after retards like you learn what stealing and copyright infringement really means
A fan game shouldn't normally result in a takedown (unless this fag forgot to label it or the dev is stupidly litigious like Nintendo), but I wonder if the URL was a major factor involved. Just having FALLOUT DOT NYC almost compels them to protect the trademark because it now means that if they wanted to make an official Fallout game set in NYC area, its possible people would find the fangame instead or they'd not be able to retain control of the IP if they didn't fight it now etc.
>>748890257why are you such a bootlicking faggot, they haven't made a fallout in 10 years.
>>748893532The only thing Palworld is proof of is that Pokemon hasn't made a good game in so long that even a shitty dollar store knockoff can gain traction.
Someone should physically attack game companies
total cogsucker death
>>748889820Shame on you, this is his dream gameDon't you have dreams?
>>748897534>Make a game named Fallout>Make it look like Fallout>Make it play like Fallout>Claim it's a full Fallout game>On a website named Fallout>Go out of your way to insult the creators of Fallout as wellYea I don't think anyone would let it slide, even the ones that are pro fan games like SEGA or Zun would go after your ass for that.
>>748894532Good
>>748897797Maybe his real objective was to generate a controversy, those can be quite profitable
>>748897604pavlovian conditioning, that's why
>>748890232As if Nintendo doesn't shut down fangames all the time
I'm making a Battletech game currently, using tons of stolen assets. I'm never going to share this project with anyone. It is a dish served for me, and for me only. I think if copyright remains the same and AI continues to advance this will probably be the future. Devs can't make the game you want, you'll have to prompt it into existence and keep on the hush-hush.
>>748897775well memed fellow gentlesir! XD
>>748897797People make entirely new regions in Fallout games before. I mean look at Fallout London, that got featured by GOG. Why would this be any different considering they're offering it for free and not charging either.
>>748889661the good thing about these AIslopped projects (and I actually don't mean that in a negative way) is that nothing is value is lost when they're gonelike if you really really want to play this then you can just tell Claude to make you Fallout NY and it'll spit out something pretty much like this anyway
>>748897534>but I wonder if the URL was a major factor involved.That's probably exactly what it was.Bethesda has always been very protective over their copyrights, even with fan projects.I remember the guys from OpenMW (sourceport for morrowind) and TES3MP (multiplayer mode built into OpenMW) being asked what the MW and TES parts of their names meant, their response was always "nothing, absolutely nothing, just a cool name, no ties to official Bethesda properties".To Bethesda's credit, they never got pissy about it and actually officially recognize both projects.
>>748897859Before putting the same effort into an original project?Absolutely.
>>748889661Bruh
>>748896805Is this really necessarily any different than searching shit online? I mean, meters-in-a-kilometer is a bit stupid, but conversions by search engine is a common use. I think that there are issues in that the chatbots can be wrong or hallucinate random shit that isn't verifiable in the same way that getting bad/wrong search results usually compels people to think >Oh shit, I asked for how to draw the lacoste alligator and many of these are just links to buying lacoste polo shirts with the alligator on it, hardly any are about drawing it. Guess I have to keep picking through so maybe its just the authoritative way that LLM spit out answers that are wrong have let people refuse to question or verify it? >>748897797Possible, but I wonder if it was the website or rather bethesda is just litigious as fuck now? After all there's stuff like - https://mmxregenesis.itch.io/mega-man-x-regenesis - floating around out there, but maybe Capcom is just less shitty in this regard . Conversely, famously the shutdowns for >AM2R >Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes The first being Nintendo legal faggotry despite being an independent fangame, and the latter being (I think?) a ROMhack got Squeenix to shit on it again as litigious faggotry,
>>748890257because pic related.
>>748890889They're genuinely so fucking stupid that they don't even know how to write for themselves anymore. AI bros are basically flesh puppets at this point.
>>748898235>because [projection]k.
Im glad that the people who shill AI will still be sent to the same concentration camps as everyone else. Makes me feel a little better.
>>748898112Well it's a mod that require you to own Fallout 4, it doesn't claim to be a brand new standalone Fallout game. And it's also not made just to piss off Bethesda.
>>748898364>require you to own Fallout 4>He actually believes thislollmao even
>>748896805Yeah, I noticed that. Everyone uses ChatGPT to do the W3schools tutorials. Which is insane because the answers are right there. I'm going to finish the semester out then go back being a hobo. This is silly, and I'm paying for the silliness.
>>748893875>code doesn't require creativityit really doesn't unless you're doing machine level stuff or making your own languagesaying coding requires creativity is like saying solving a jigsaw puzzle requires creativity
>>748898297ironic to read this on /v/
>>748898227Maybe the megaman one is just niche enough that they didn't hear of it.Every single fangame I see getting downed are because of retards making it famous. Like how Nintendo went after switch emulator after people made 20 millions videos about playing BOTW in 4K and daring nintendo to do something about it
>>748898559There are many pretenders on /v/. Occasionally they let the shitposting mask slip.
>>748898632>There are many pretenders on /v/.not really, no.
>>748890257Bethesda doesn't own Fallout as far as the fans are concerned, the IP might as well be in the public domain.
>>748898227>Is this really necessarily any different than searching shit online?>I think that there are issues in that the chatbots can be wrong or hallucinate random shit that isn't verifiable in the same way that getting bad/wrong search results usually compels people to think.That's probably the biggest issue, but a big thing to remember is that efficiently parsing things like documentation is still an important skill.Right now there's a lot of people trying to get into software that don't understand how to look through documentation sites, or even really comprehend how the information provided to them fits together.It's created this weird 'swiss cheese brain' effect where people ask a chatbot for something, use it, then forget it almost immediately after.Admittedly, that's always been there to some degree, but having a chatbot that can throw info in your face for next to no effort has made it a lot worse.
>>748889661Just retool it as your own post-apocalypse adventure with no Fallout references in it at all.
>>748898335>incapable of refuting any of the pointsnot making a convincing case for yourself already and you've yet to speak an actual word
>>748890889the text above is literally ai generated
>>748890257To be honest, the last actual Fallout is Fallout 2.AIjeets' work is as canon as whatever comes out of Bethesda's butthole with a Fallout stamp on it.
>>748899036>>incapable of refuting any of the pointsif you think there's any point worth refuting in what's essentially just a long-winded insult with some projection you're as mentally ill as the poster in the screenshot
>>748898575Well, admittedly Nintendo went after it because Nintendo is a completely asinine company that doesn't think emulators should ever be legal. They were able to get a settlement because the devs got caught low level piracy to help with development (ie sharing game dumps etc) and thus settled rather than letting Nintendo get any sort of legal precedent for all the crazy bullshit they were asking for in the (likely) case they got some moronic , technically ignorant judge. Still sucks though. It wasn't like their hand was forced because some idiots played TOTK before official launch - this happened far more on CFW than on emulators after all. >>748898757yeah, I can understand that looking into documentation is a separate skill (and writing it properly is even more so). Frankly I'm literally decades out of date so I consider my programming experience basically nil, but its strange to me to see the whole "vibe coding" trend treated seriously by people who think they're great programmers because they told the LLM to make X that works on the surface, but can't actually verify how its working, if its safe or viable etc. I'm sure those who have actual coding ability can make use of LLMs to bolster their use, but I could never understand confidently copy pasta-ing whatever one spits out like some seem to do. I have no problem with AI in and of itself, but think people are generally fighting the wrong battles (ie we need more self hosted FOSS model capability, rather than simply AI YES faggotry vs AI NO faggotry often for stupid justifications. We should not be dependent on megacorp owned proprietary models etc), but I could never see people thinking themselves programmers just based on copypasta no more than if they just pasted random website template CSS or something.
>>748899036How do you refute a personal attack that is not true, but they keep insisting that it is? Please explain
>>748899237common reddit tactic>well, the points are so stupid they're not even worth engaging!!!if they were so stupid, you'd be able to dunk on the guy with very little effortthe only reason you don't is because you are arguing from emotions and cannot formulate a cohesive argument that doesn't out you as someone not worth listening to, this is true for literally anyone who says,>there are no points in my opponents argument worth debating
>>748889661Boy, I use Opus since I'm a SE, but I imagine the abomination that this shit looks under the hood. It's the pure definition of slop.
>>748899476>Boy, I use Opus since I'm a SEslop engineer lol
>>748899452>the only reason you don't is because you are arguing from emotions and cannot formulate a cohesive argument that doesn't out you as someone not worth listening tothe irony in saying this while defending the post in that screenshot which literally paints people as "friendless, jealous losers" simply because they use le icky AI gave me goosebumps
>>748899569you got me
>>748889661The Posts. Their Syntax. The Punctuation. All of it proves AIsloppers deserve death.
Just a while ago companies were all about using ai to shit out slop at unprecedented rates, now that people are using it to make their own games ai is suddenly bad?
>>748889997I see your topical point there fren.
>>748899764great!so refute the points and absolutely dunk on the dude then!the argument is so stupid, as you said, so you should have no problem coming up with less words to dunk on him than it took for you to waste your time replying to my posts
>>748900093okay, I'll put as much effort in as a post like that deserves.>"all AIfags are [projection and insults]">"no u"
>>748891217>making a fun video game for myself because I finally don't have to be a one man army and can relegate shit to skynet>it's a personal for fun project that I want to see if I can realize that will never see the light of day like my other stuff but apparently I'm doing it for cloutIt's just a tool that can speed up tedium or compensate for weaknesses. It's the same as talking shit about electric saws because some retard killed someone with it while real niggas cut it all by hand and the tree is so much better and soulful. Call me mad or whatever but this debate honestly sounds like religion from both sides and I will never get it. Skub.
I haven't seen any evidence that any of these games or mods are even real and not just an AI videoIs there a single example that I can actually play right now?
>copy a games IP wholesale>b-but i g-g-genewated it all by m-mysewfhow do these people remember how to breath?couldve literally just changed some shit and maybe even made some money. instead he just dumped some of his own money into the claude pit, and got his ass served
>>748889661>Make AI SLOP game on an IP you dont own>Put it behind a paywallWhat the fuck did he think was going to happen?
>>748890257this isn't xitter, you can say FAGGOTS instead of "bros" here
>>748900895He trusted POTUS, many such cases, sad.
>>748901942it's homophobic so he can't
>>748889661>sorry everyone who enjoyed the gameI’m sure they are both heartbroken.
>>748897170To be fair, it probably worked off of Bethesdas guns.
>>748900895He made a fan project using Fallout as the setting. That's not some profound indictment of AI; people have been making unlicensed fan games, mods, ROM hacks, total conversions, and other derivative projects for decades.And the “Claude pit” shit is irrelevant. He spent his own money making something he wanted to make. You can call the project legally risky without pretending that getting a C&D somehow proves AI is uniquely stupid or that the guy deserved to get dogpiled.If your actual complaint is “he used Bethesda's IP without permission,” then say that. Mocking him for using AI doesn't make the IP argument any stronger.
>>748896932Soul is just a buzzword that trannies use when they can't find a proper reason to defend something
>>748889661Arrogant prick should be sued into the ground, HOW ABOUT YOU MAKE A GAME, you vibe coding jeet fuck.
>>748902945fuck off Todd
>>748902812You do realize that these chatbot written posts are blatantly obvious, right, newfag?
>>748889997Hmm
>>748890257>leave Bethesda aloooone !
>>748900479>Call me mad or whatever but this debate honestly sounds like religion from both sides and I will never get it. Skub.That's because it is a religion argument. Both sides will never budge from their position. Meanwhile the people who do use or even have some nuance to the whole thing get drowned out
Bethesda is just mad because he spent money on Claude than their paid mods.
>>748897170>the fucking sideways drum magThese retards don't check shit
I never liked Fallout's premise.
>>748902812Vibe coding jeet fuck made a mockery out of Fallout and Bethesda, sue that prick into the ground.
>>748890190thisthey said make your own games and now they're crying>n-not like that!!
>Fecaloids think AI trash will lead to a huge era of creativity or a mish mash of games>In reality it will simply lead to litigation hell.
>>748903586>made a mockery out of Fallout and Bethesda>sue that prick into the groundYeah!Only Bethesda is allowed to make a mockery of Fallout!
>>748893206worst it will ever be
>>748893206>this is what bethesda sent a DMCA overhow fucking shit is their next game
>>748889661NOOOOO ONLY WE AS A BIG COMPANY CAN STEAL THINGS WITH AI NOOOOO
>>748904258the thing to remember is that they paid a LOT of money to be able to make a mockery of fallout. you need to do that, or youre not allowed make a mockery of fallout. thats just how it works.if you dont have the IP, you have to hide it behind parody or """artistic inspiration""" or whatever which is realistically what the guy couldve done if he had more than like 3 braincells. i mean it worked for palworld, and that shits got plenty of slop in it
>>748889661based but only if they use copyright to prevent people from making shittty ai games lol
>>748889820Its really not that hard to make a not-x setting.See space king and lobotomy corp
>>748893532>Palworld>originalYour bait is shitty and you're disingenuous lying retard.
>>748889820Bethesda didn't created Fallout
>>748904761>artistic>inspired>ai slop
>>748905328yes they did kiddo, Emil Himself said so
ai is the most jeet thing ever
>>748905202As an old-ass pokéfag, there is more originality in Palworld than the entire past decade of mainline pokémon games.Half tempted to put an 's' to decade, even.
>>748890257>Leave the multi-billion dollar studio ALONE!Alright, commie neck tattoo.
Anti-AI is extremely leftist coded
>>748904342saar in 10 years it will be good just wait saaar
>>748890232>implying he was trying to make a game and not just telling AI to make it for himI think low of people who say videogames are art , but AI bros are infinitly more dellusional for thinking they are actually making something worth the time of others.
>>748907224the ghibli/calarts mix AI likes to use is pretty fucking annoying to see all the time
>>748905563>>748906956????
>>748890692This. There's literally a fallout fangame available on steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3908900/FoE_Remains/
>>748889997You can sue the name
>>748900574This, as redditors would say
>>748890257After 11 years
>>748907818EVEN IN AN UNRELATED THREADFOEFOE
>>748889661>No gameplay footage
>>748889661Based! Complete and total *AI* jeet death. I don't want *AI* sloppa games.
things are getting weird bros, I thought LLMs would level off in capability but if they keep going like the past year we might actually be fucked
>>748890232Why the FUCK has no one AI slopped an ending to this game? We were literally just two zones away.
>>748907818I can vouch for it being actually worth playing AND not needing to know anything about pastel horse to understand what's going on.Melee builds are pretty fun, and telekinesis become hilarious once you can lift and drop heavy shit.
yeah it's just a matter of time before it starts happening more since AI faggots have no self-restraint
>>748892647>>748905328bethesda purchased the rights to the fallout IP from the original rights holder legally.did this spiritual jeet license or purchase the fallout IP from the rights holder?
>>748911212Bethesda are no better than AIjeet quality-wise.>"but it's a *legal* turd, I paid money to shit on it" Wow, +1000 Izzat to you.
>>748905070Yeah but your knock-off setting doesn't come with a built-in fanbase ready to slob your knob.
>>748889661Why isn’t he tagging Zenimax since they’re the ones who wrote him to begin with?
>>748889661This is why china will win. They dont need to deal with retarded copyright laws and just make whatever.
>>748908808Shanghai EXE is pure soul and AI is soulless
>>748890232they do tho. snoy shut down the last of us 2 multiplayer mod
>>748893672why grok? use claude
>>748913227>claudecan't use the n-word
>>748889820Ouchiee haha
>748889661 (OP) (Retarded & Homosexual)>AI Fallout game issued copyright takedown by Bethesda>>748890525>this guy is an ai grifter selling courses and a patreonNaruhodo. So what you're saying is that OP is a fag.Much appreciated.
it's always hilarious when luddits bring up vague shit like>soul/human touchit literally doesn't exist, every single process you can imagine can be broken down into discrete finite steps necessary to accomplish some task, aka an algorithmpaining, psychology, farming, codeslopping, EVERYTHING, which is why ultimately no job or activity is safe from automationwhen people see an amazing game nobody gives a fuck if "human touch" was involved or nothere's the list of people who are currently seething about this>luddites (who are always wrong about everything)>platform/IP holders, they are currently losing their minds over the floodgates for fangames being busted the fuck out with AI>ignorant people (boomers, chuds, migacels, incels)>corporate drones who fear losing their token/nepobaby hire jobthe whole industry is freaking out over this, you have literally a way to create infinite variations of everything you wantcucks lost, AIgods won, simple as
>>748889661OH, so NOW AI is a problem when people start making games they actually want while not even using assets from the company that owns the IP
>>748898227The only times I can remember MM fangames being DMCA'd involve profiting off of it somehow, like Shanghai