Well, shit. It really is like that.
Im guessing this is all paid tools? If I wanted to decomp a game boy game how much would that cost me? Or is there anywhere I can request it?
>>748894636>Normies can't fathom anyone enjoying something that isn't mainstream "cool"Yawn
People who hate this are stupid. >Muh artSaid the goy who consumes modern games. I rather play AI generated mods for older games than anything made by humans in the current year.
>twitter>discord>ai>phoneposterwell shit, it really is like that in this nigger of a board
>>748894636>art>troonslopYeah ok anon
A toy box can be art albeithough
>You don't want games to be ART, you just want them as ENTERTAINMENT? Yikes, maybe GROW UP
Wait, what Vice City slopmod is that?
These faggots demanding games to be "deep and mature" are the reason God of War went from a fun hack n slash to cinematic slop where you get lectured by strong women about how to be a better man.
>>748894636games are toys
>>748894880>t. Whines when people portray gaming as slop for fat nerds on welfare playing in their mom's basement
>>748894935part of that is also the industry. If your game doesn't have 3 hours of cutscenes and asians doing mocap it's not a REAL triple AAAA title anymore.
>>748894846NO. Art is when a post-menopausual woman tells me to be a better man as I slowly walk down a hallway
do trannies really have to take the worst traits of women and be as obnoxious as possible? this shit is awesome and probably one of few benefits of AI that you can actually experience for yourself
>>748894636>meanwhile games as "art"
>>748894636Well yeah. Games are toys.
>>748894636>woooowwww people having fun??!>not on my watch!
>>748894636>mashing up games>look inside>it's just fucking asset swaps
>>748894636>NO YOU NEED TO LE GROW UP AND ACCEPT OUR LE HECKIN PASSIN BLACK TRANS FOLKS IN YOUR VIDYA STOP HAVING FUN GROW UPPPPPPP *STOMP STOMP STOMP*
>>748895095wtf what game is this?
>>748894636Is there a single one of these that is an actual mod i can download and play right now?just seems like people are just making goofy ai videos not actual mods for the actual games
you promoted your twitter and discord on this board yesterday tooHow much can you continue ?
>>748895195The infamous Veilguard. Bioware and possibly EA's killing blow.
>>748894935God of war was slop back then too it was always the most braindead hack n slash imaginable
>>748895178Food analogy but I like eggplant. I also like chocolate cake. Eating chocolate cake with eggplant would be gross. Vice City and Tony Hawk combined don't fucking work as a concept.
A toybox isn't good enough. I want a toybox which comes with an assault course which is expertly crafted for use with the toys in question, balanced to make use of those toys to their fullest while still being challenging enough to fully engage me in the activity. Chop chop
>>748894636first of all KYS because of that literally who opinion from shitter.com, second of all that mission was hard only on PC because you had to use 6-8 buttons to fly the helicopter
>>748895095Grow up, if you don't like it just ignore it. little things like that make some people feel like they're visible and they matter and they need it because most them are really and i mean really worthless faggots and should die.
>>748894636Gen AI best use was always for shitposts.This is just that for games/modding.Anyone who doesn't like this doesn't have a soul.
>>748894935Gow was always slop it was just a different kind of slop
So where can i play all these "games"?
>>748894636since this is the AI thread, which AI produces the best sprite art? Claude can only make good 8x8 pixel art but any bigger looks like a toddler made it.
>>748894636When they make these forced, pretend arguments it is like a drowning man clutching at a straw. The art theft argument had validity but didn't work, so luddos are now in a desperate panic throwing out anything they can. They are clearly very close to defeat, if not suffering the defeat already
>>748895791Try bing create. It'll make 32 bit stuff if you don't specify anything else, and it's not exactly pixel art, it's mixel art, but it's a great starter for you to paint over properly.
>>748894636It's cool I guess but I guarantee no one is playing these mashups longer than 10 minutes for some clips to get clicks on Twitter
>>748895791Bing made this, I should have asked for a full body thing, smaller sprites usually give better results.
>Games are only art if you ape HBO prestigeslop like RDR2I hate these people. The interactivity is what makes games unique as a medium, the best games are great toys before they're shiny presentations.
Am i too young to understand why games not being art is a bad thing? I play them while daydrinking and scratching my balls why would i care if goyim considers them art or nah.
>>748896737Normies only understand "art" in the sense of it being linear and making them "feel", it's why Last of Us was such a hit, because it's a kindergarten-tier gameplay experience with a bad sad dad story.
>>748894636what mature and adult hobbies does this normalfaggot partake in?
>>748896993nu God of War too, they've done irreparable damage to AAA game development
>>74889741890% of humans really are hylics.
>>748894636most like some movies are life changing and others are capeshit, some games are remarkable pieces of art and others are slop. It's stupid to try to fit them all in one category or the other.
>>748894636Just let people enjoy things?
>>748894636I can see this shit going extremely hard with kids and the like, especially at school. I remember me and my own friends playing a shit load of flash games in computer class myself. Now instead of flash games, kids can play this shit.
>>748896453>>748896595I'm looking for more pixel art not mixel art but it's alright.
>>748897804Hey I told you bing wasn't perfect, but it's a good starting point.
Ai bros I see your weird mashups of two different games, sure its cool or whateverI wont call you cringe for thatI just wanna know, can ai take ONE game and genreswap itNot a mashup with another gameJust take any game and make it into a weg dating simThis is all i wantThe going into games machine, dating sim edition
>>748894636>gamers don't want games as artCorrect. I want games as games.
>>748894636This is just a more advanced version of modders putting CJ and Thomas the Engine in every fucking games. It's novel for 5 minutes the first time you see it then people move on, few people actually use those mods. The discourse gets obfuscated because muh AI and muh art but ultimately it's just not that interesting past the novelty.
Are toys themselves are not art?
>>748896595>>748897979Throw what you make into Bing or whatever other image generator you want to use in this, you can turn the Mixels into Pixels. You can also look for their github and download it on your own machine and use it with more customization to make the results possibly look better. That's how I've been doing things for a project I've been working onhttps://www.spritefusion.com/pixel-snapper
>>748894636>Gamers wants games as gamesWOW
>>748894636>the art
Video Games are commercial products created for business that also happen to contain art.If you insist otherwise then you have to also insist that the annual change to the Google logo is true art.If you want to make true and decide to go for making a video game, you are an utter retard and so is anyone else that says you made true art.
>>748895026Video Games are that and I will never complain about such a description.
>>748898282Can it? Probably with lots of handholding. Is it feasible? No. Turning one game into another genre would require rewriting everything from scratch which would take billions of tokens. Unless you are rich and have lots of money to burn it's probably not worth trying.
5>>748894636Shitter screenshot aside, am I supposed to disagree with this take? Yes, this is exactly what I want and what games should and were meant to be.
>All from my Discord server
>>748895095Is there any way to straight up delete any identity policits from it?
>>748894770you can probably do that in a few hours with the new opus model, that one is responsible for all this crazy shit and its cheap tooi made a n64 recomp with a deepseek model thats not even 1/5th as smart
>>748894636>games as toybox is le badweak effort
When I was a little kid there was this one online flash game that was just Mario 1 but you could play as a bunch of other nes characters like ryu or kirby or megamanAt first it's the coolest thing ever but 5 minutes later you realize it's not very fun because obviously these levels are not designed for these characters and the fun of the novelty has run outIf you think this is worth anything more than just a "huh, neat" comment on a tweet you are a retarded casual who doesn't understand what makes a game good
>>748894636>implying this isn't arti've seen what makes you clap
>>748894636>gamers don't want our quirkchungus wholesome diversity jewslop, they want gamesyou don't say huh arttroon western faggot zionist niggershitskin cocksucker
>Waaaa I can't enjoy this thing because I've passed the arbitrary age where society says I'm not allowed to have fun anymoreI love being lectured about my hobby by normalfag tourists who started playing video games in the mid 2010s because of the last of us. If you want art, go visit a gallery. Insufferable pretentious cunts.
>apparently the true purpose of heccing wholesome AI in videogames was basically just doing the equivalent of all these android slop games that put Mario and Skibidi Toilet and Spiderman in GTAAIniggers truly are retards
>>748899686are you that one anon?
>>748895712Seriously, where can i play all these ai mashup games. Surely there are full fledged games these indians are shilling here that are available for download
>>748894636yepgamers are the artistsdevs are the brushmakers and paintmixersthat is how it always should have been
>>748904784They don't want you to play the games AI has already made. They want you to use their AI to make your own facsimile because if they don't push AI use to everyone the Number Might Go Down.
>>748894636>no you can't have fun because my tribe on the everything app gets the ick
>>748894820Every single fucking thread, all day everyday, you always got some foul shit to say huh? You're such a miserable fuck, you're an embarrassment.
>>748894793Ironic considering that's exactly what they do with everything on twitter.
>>748894636"games as art": has brought in every single insufferable demographic into my hobby for the last 15 yearsso no, i don't want that
>>748903708Putting skate mechanics in every game possible is unironically a stroke of genius. Some AI get it right
>>748894636>Erm, you want to ENJOY your art? Why don't you hang up paintings you hate instead? It's more art-y that way.
>>748894636>as a giant toy box...yes? what else are games supposed to be?
>>748894636Games are given life through art and player gameplay is an art form all of in itself.Anyone claiming to want games to BE art though is a walking sim faggot that should consider suicide.Games are meant to be played.
>>748894636The natural conclusion of modern goyslop.
>>748894636>jeets call themselves "hackers" now
>>748894935Ironically Movie games are not so easy to slop. Anyone can shit out more Silksong levels or feed a D&D campaign to BG3. Gameplay is easy to copy for an AI, a Story is not.
>>748894636I caved and bought a $20 claude plan today because I'm curious as to how easy this all is.My end goal is to get MGS4 gameplay in Dark Souls 1, complete with working octo camo that changes to dark souls textures when you prone. This should be achievable via a passthrough mod.After reaching the limit of one 5 hour session on Opus 5.5 medium, it has managed to tie movement between the games together, so moving snake moves the dark souls character at around the same speed. It also ran tests on offscreen enemies with bullets that worked, but since snake isn't rendering yet thats not too important.My session reached its limit right as it was debugging why snake wasn't rendering, but it already figured out the correct D3D hooks for MGS4 to pull the data it needs to render snake in DS1 so its really quite close to being at least visually funcional. Whether it can go the whole way is another thing entirely, but I'm shocked its gotten so close so quickly.
>>748909219Story is not? AI already won novel author awards
>Oh my chungus science I can put Mario in my Halo nowThe type of shit that would get mocked for being soi in 2018 back when that word actually meant something.
well yes, GTA IV with rape. when?
>>748909231post some webms of it
>>748894636>put fart trail in vice city>HMM, I should go to Diaz>try to drive away from the main road to the mansion>I should go to Diaz>Car drives itself to the mansion>I could pick up this hidden package for money, there should be more around the cityART
>>748909286>AI already won novel author awardsSo has everyone else. You probably won some novel awards, I won 3 on the way in to work the other day.
>gamers want to play games and not "art">"art" in this context means some interactive musem with text dumps laying around about your homosexual sister or some other weirdo shit
>>748909475Most authors do not win awards, no. Then you also have to keep in mind that low tier novel stories still shit on most high tier vidya stories.Which just furthers strengthens the argument that AI is already much more capable at creating good vidya stories than 99.9% of the people in the industry currently.
>you want to treat toys like toys>I want to play with toys and have everyone think it's artSounds like they just want to half their cake and eat at two
>>748909830Erm. Don't you know is grab their cake and pee and poo?
>>748909393There's nothing much to show at the minute, have a screenshot claude took to test its own work during the session.The ring in the middle is a representation of the ring you get around you in MGS4 that tells you vaguely where nearby enemies are, but for some reason the version here tracks every enemy within like 70 meters to pinpoint precision once you start moving. I'm going to assume once its able to render snake himself that it can also feed the MGS4 GUI display into dark souls so it can drop its own shitty one, and also tie things like psyche dropping to dark souls events.Snake in reality is just chilling in the alleyway he spawns in at the start of act 1, so his psyche drains to 0 as he bakes in the sun lol
FUCKING USE AI TO FIX TERRARIA
>>748910221that's pretty cooldo you think modding vigilante 8 (ps1 game) would cost a lots of tokens?
>Gamers just want entertainmentYes you dumb twigger faggots. That's what it was until that fat nigger Ebert said MUH GAMES CAN'T BE ART and then suddenly every vidya dev tried to prove him wrong and we've been stuck in this moviegaem hell since. That fat bitch is long dead and you still have buttpained LA soilennials still trying to prove his rotten hack fraud corpse ass wrong
>>748910491Beats me, I'm using the PC port of MGS4 and DSR on steam which is two D3D11 applications talking to each other. This means I get to skip having to decomp/recomp anything, saving probably hundreds of millions to billions of tokens worth of work.I assume getting non-PC native or emulated games to a point they can work with passthrough takes quite a lot more tokens though, since existing ones either use re-writes in similar archievtures or scripting extensions like skyrim has alongside a passthrough solution.
>>748909629>Most authors do not win awards, noI exaggerated, but most authors aren't even known, let alone award eligible.Novel Stories =/= Videogame Stories. Dispatch is a good example. Not a great story, but a decent one. That knows gamers want 3 things (among others): Sex Appeal, Illusion of Choice, and Interaction. Imagine an AI trying to write a story, it can calculate math or translate text or mod gameplay, but how does it write a story to express a feeling? It's one thing to paint a house, another to paint an imperfect self-potrait. Even if you try to outpace a writer, but creating MORE story, we've seen slop writing in gaming. It's just ignored at best, annoying at worst.
>>748894636https://youtu.be/O6Mkm_NGCX8?si=eaBkUzHxtOvz5WHk
>>748910975AI is absolutely capable of writing to at least imitate the expression of feelings and it's good enough to evoke feelings in the reader which is more important anyway. I do think it would struggle to figure out how to write in a way that lends itself well for interactivity currently as i doubt anyone is training them for this yet.Then again, writing quality hasn't been much of a valued criteria in vidya. People eat up awful Chinese translations of already convoluted and wordy stories in gacha slop all day.
This is honestly really cool and a way better use of AI than art flooding every booru and youtube thumbnail and every other post here
>>748911740Agreed. AI is good for somethings like Data, and helping to code but jeets and retards flooding art sites with infinite garbage art is not one of them
>>748912032It's nice that sites have added AI filter toggles but a good amount still goes through which sucks
>>748911728Ultimately I think we can all agree it's gonna be how things always ends up: the slop get sloppier, the greatest works get great. It's human history and that's all AI knows.
>ai fags>Still posting “what if thing was other thing”This is why you aren’t taken seriously. Your shirts all “what if game of thrones was a Disney cartoon.” Or “what if countries were superheroes”.
>>748911128nice
>>748894804"Art" is such a buzzword. The tape a banana on a canvas, shit out some fluid on it and call it some "post-modern consumer depression" or something while demanding 3 millon dollars for it. "Art" is money laundering and scam.
>>748912495You’re just simplifying art in a different direction faggot. Hylics shouldn’t be allowed to post.
>>748894804People who want videogames (ALL of them anyway) to be art or artsy are faggots, but being an AI shit eater is too far in the other direction.
>>748912432Batman could take on Venom. It's just Clayface but you use fire instead of water, Spiderman would absolutely fuck up gotham and have it looking like a utopia in about 3 weeks.
>>748912420mods and custom maps have been historically very very geared towards "what if X thing was in Y thing" forever though, way before AI.Don't tell me you didn't play any of those good old custom halo 1 PC maps back in the day full of copyrighted and meme shit, or stupid ass nukes and insane weapons?Modding was never that serious, I'm super excited to try mixed sloppa games and see how various mechanics and design decisions end up interacting with one another when full playthroughs of X with Y mechanics are attempted.
>>748912562My sentence was my artistic view of things. Suck it up el fagót.
>>748894636>"NOOOO stop having fun! We need the art snobs to take us seriously!!!!"Amazing that this person thought they were in the right.
>>748901568damn, but do you need to nudge it in a direction or write some complex prompt... or is it a simple "decompile (this), the dumped files are (here) and make sure it runs natively on the machine you have access to"?
If you can't see how a game with AI assets can still be art then you don't respect games as art. You don't respect that it's the sum of the whole that makes games art. Mega Man is a fantastic example of games as art. At the same time not everything has to be art, sometimes things can just be done for the sake of doing it. Modding Quake into Skyrim isn't art since there's no considered conversation between player/dev using the game's design but it can still be fun. Game journalists hold some responsibility for bringing this new remix trend about by describing every game as like a fusion of X and Y to the point of being a meme and for failing to respect games as art if they don't resemble other mediums.
yawn, wake me when they blend skyrim with corruption of championsor super deep throat with idol master
>>748912603Speaking of Spiderman just solving shit, how do the Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones team even function in New York with Spiderman around? I can understand Daredevil, and perhaps I'm just biased because I like Charlie Cox as an actor. But he at least can exist using his super hearing to sniff out liars and evidence. The rest just punch hard, and Spiderman could solve their collective shit in a day. I dunno, I really only like the DCAU when it comes to capeshit but from what little I know of Marvel I feel like Spidey completely invalidates the New York team. What do these guys even do?
>>748912872I've been reversing the original digimon keychain pet with a dumb free model(muse spark free) and I've had to prod it go look at certain things or verify memory addresses in an emulator.I think the frontier models are much better and need less interaction after giving them a decent prompt.
>artFuck art, no other hobby has to kneecap itself pretending its more than it is all of the time yet for some reason Twitter faggots demand "art" (political lectures) from vidyaNobody bitches about the model train guy not making art
Someone prompt Portal + Surf please
>>748913204Spiderman can't be everywhere all at once he doesn't have a super power to not get tired, he still needs sleep breaks and time where he is just Peter Parker. One of Marvet's problems is just localizing too many heroes in NYC because you've forgotten the Fantastic Four, Punisher, Doctor Strange, and to a lesser extent the X-men (New York state)
>>748894636gamers want stuff that's fun, and no one cares about all the failed wannabe artists who infest the field because they think it's a low hanging fruit even failures like them will be able to grab
>>748912495>"Art" is money laundering and scam.Anyone pushing art as an investment for the wealthy is a scammer and has been for 400 years. The values (aside from historical provenance) assigned to the art they are auctioning are completely arbitrary.A fucking party napkin is art.
>>748913414>my point on an entire hobby is based around a small scope of retards on a soc med sitelolAll gamers are faggots and trannies. My scope of reference? Twitter of course.
>>748895026I wish people would view it like that again so all the fucks who ruin this hobby leave again
>>748912649This isn’t just about modding. This is everything ai produces. It’s all “what if Zelda was 80s dark fantasy” slop.
>>748912672So your view of art as a whole is the small segment of art that’s used for money laundering. Is the painting your mom hung in the wall money laundering? No? Is it art? Yes?. So you simplified shit, like a retard.
>>748894636still waiting for someone to make a life is strange meets bully meats tony hawk type of game
>>748894636We don't want emasculated movie games or butchered franbchisesthat's literally all there is to it, no deeper philosophy or logic behind it.
>>748894636>AI Hackerspffffffff hahahahahahahahahaha
>>748912603Venom isn't just Clayface m8I don't see how Batman could reasonably face a majority of Spider-Man's rogues. A writer will always find a way but Spider-Man is usually fighting some elemental wielder or some reality warping bullshit. Although Spider-Man rogues are fucking stupid too. You got guys that can turn into sand and manipulate lighting or water, but they all started as "street level" purse snatchers. Honestly, Spider-Man could fucking clean up Gotham with the amount of bullshit he deals with on a base level basis. It's amazing Marvel New York is not a complete warzone.
>>748911128where's the combat
>>748894636I really, REALLY fucking hate the "giant toy box" argument these people came up with because Archipelago exists. I cannot imagine the hypocrisy to think AI game mashups are some bastardization of video games when multi-game randomizers and the like existed for god knows how long.
>STOP HAVING FUN
>>748913725A problem of muddled language.That napkin contains art.Games contain art, and some art is interactive, but its not the same as a work by someone like Waterhouse or Rembrant. AI is for art that is simply consumed thoughtlessly--video games or porn or advertisements.If AI generated ten million imitations of Rembrandt it would have no staying power as art at that level is the result and the process. Context, themes, subtext, symbolism, etc are inherently out of reach for AI generation due to the inexact nature of patronizing art.
>>748894636so this shit will be forgotten in 2 weeks right?
>>748914418Batman was able to dodge Darkseid's Omega beams. Venom isn't shit compared to that and a lot of his symbiote abilities and moves apply similarly to Clayface, Bruce is also intelligent and is called the worlds' greatest detective so its not impossible he could stumble or figure out Venom's weaknesses. You even say that a lot of his rogues are street level like Sandman. And even someone like Electro wouldn't be much for him because Electro is a retard. But if we're talking Marvel crossover villains like Magneto or Doom, Batman is fucked outside of Deus Ex handjobs.
>>748894636>I can't believe those hecking g*mers want games to be FUN
>>748894636>gamers don't want games as artwait, they just figured this out NOW ?
>>748914829>MUH OMEGA BEAMSGod I hate Batman
>>748915158You hate batman's writers. The character is cool.
there's something soulless about modern modding but pretending like it's the labour inputs that make mods good is evil... true stalker took years to make and it was dogwater
>>748894636Games are not art, and that's a good thing
>>748913330alright cool, thanks for infoI think I will give it a shot and try decompiling some simple classic games with deepseek since that one is cheap
>>748894636>>748904784>>748905093the real reason you can't play them is because these mashup"""games"""" are mostly non-functional techdemos made to keep the AI hypetrain going and distract from Anthropic and OpenAI being hundreds of billions in the hole before having gone publicthese kinds of debts are completely unprecedented by the way, no other company in US history has come close to having this amount of debts & commitments
When games are made as "art" you end up with watered down anti-white anti-male movie game slop made by people who hate their audience. I don't want to be lectured on how Europeans are evil and deserve to be ethnically replaced constantly, I just want maybe an hour of escapism before I go back to waging tomorrow, for fuck's sake.
>>748894636I wanted diablo 2 but in PSO skin
>mashing up every game possible!!!!!!>slapping one(1) game's skateboard mechanics with a handful of super popular games (to maximize attention and clickbait power>occasionally swapping out generic skateboard game X with mineycrafta
>>748894636>have ability to effortsely change video game in any way>instead of adding new bosses, levels, mechanics, qol stuff, or any new quirky stuff they just do what if you could quickscope the minecraft cow xDnone of these mashups look actually fun and I dont even think the people who "made" them played them for longer than it took to get a social media worthy clip, the jews were right about the goyim
>>748914778>If AI generated ten million imitations of Rembrandt it would have no staying powerSays you.
>video games are artlmao no it has never been and never will be
>>748894636mashups are useless slop. Make something original
Roger Ebert won.Video games will never be art.
Yes, I want my entertainment to be entertaining, faggot. Don't cry because you failed film school and couldn't get into Hollywood.
>>748894636I'll suck the dick of the anon that mashes Driver 2 and Metal Gear Solid
I have AIDS [AI derangement syndrome]
>>748910221>>748909231Could you post a webm too? I'm curious
The faggot OP is @puppycelebrity and xhe also said that Postsl 2 getting remade is a good thing because it's le heckin problematic. I can't wait for xhim to ack xhimself.
Is this the new NFT craze? People who dont play video games grifting about things they dont know about?Its literally that webm of the retard fascinated by flashing lights
Games would be in a better place if more people were comfortable viewing them as toys meant for fun. If the gameplay aspect suffers then everything else gets dragged down with it. Even then, all games require a certain degree of artistry for things like character design and music, even the most gameplay-focused series can't just be untextured ragdolls jumping around with no BGM.I've played games I would consider to be art AND good, but 99 times out of 100 whenever an art game gets shilled to me it's a boring walking sim about sad gay people.
>>748894636So...is it just movement and UI in other games or is there some sort of quest structure or interesting way these interact? All I've seen is "Bro I added Garfield to Sonic Adventure" type stuff.
No one ever dreamed of playing Tony Hawk inside Skyrim.
>you have to be boring and live a boring life after 20 and you're not allowed to enjoy things, just work, pay pedophiles your taxes, and adult (propaganda) stuffNo thanks I'm living in the woods running 5 claudes on solar power and riding horses all day. Catcha later after I put project zomboid in planet coaster. Actually nevermind I'm gonna go ride my horses after and never think once about working for someone else HAH
games are inherently incapable of being art because they're interactive and customisable by design, and therefore can be used in a way the creator did not intend. it's like Lego. they come with an instruction book on what you're supposed to build but there's nothing stopping you from building something else instead.
>>748919886>they come with an instruction book on what you're supposed to build but there's nothing stopping you from building something else instead.I dunno about that anymore
>>748918083>People who dont play video games grifting about things they dont know about?It's really tiresome how the whole Internet is just this now due to people getting money from "engagement".
>>748894636>artlmfaooooooooooooooooo
>>748913051>super deep throat with idol master
>>748894636Growing up is for faggot dead NPCs Vidya is spiritual and straight from heaven
>>748894636No actual gamer wants this. Xitteroids are fucking annoying as fuck.
I just want something that's as fun and mindblowing as Gunstar Heroes was to kid me
>>748910576No one cares about that guy.
>>748903708Imagine getting a triple collateral while doing a tree flip
>>748920417The retards making games do. And are still anal gaped by his ghost.
>>748903708Mw2 360 quickscope + skating = holy aura hell yeah boii :skull:
>>748920485No. Only /v/tards who still fall for bait care about him. Devs dont involve themselves in that shit, their games are garbage for other reasons.
>>748920717Yes it is that's whyy AAA games all try to be cinematic movieshit with actors and face scans to show emotions so le ded critic man can be wrong.
Nobody wants a remake of their favorite painting that changes how the painting looks.Nobody wants a remake of their favorite song that changes how it sounds.Nobody wants a remake of their favorite movie.But videogames are supposed to be pieces of art while everyone wants remakes and shits on the original games? Really?Videogames will never ever be anything other than entertainment as long as remakes exist.Remaster and ports are a whole different thing.Remakes are cancer.
i see sloppers have moved onto the next fad then
>>748914819Probably. I don't hate the underlying idea, but no one's really doing mashups of anything interesting and it feels like it's just same 5 or 6 games.
>>748894636>uhh shit what do we do sisters….>let’s indirectly call the entire modding community juvenile because we don’t have an argument for why mashing all these games with Skate 3 is le bad! >YAAAASSS SISSA! They’ll have no idea we don’t just goon to R34 Nintendo characters all day and hate the community. This whole midwit indie games for art vs dudebro gaymers culture war thing is so fucking old and tired. And those games like YIIK sucked
>>748921196>what are new book editions and releases>what are album remasters and remixes>what are movie remakesnigger...
>>748916837they cant change mechanics, the reason why every "mod" has been the same thing is its basically just streaming collision data into another game and then rendering the character back onto the new gameits interesting, but its YET ANOTHER example of the AI bruteforcing something in a goofy way
>>748909219>Gameplay is easy to copy for an AIThen AI is already better at game design than western devs, they haven't managed to make good combat yet.
>>748894770There's a couple free API endpoints. You can download opencode and get play around with it. The free models are kinda retarded though, you'll need to pay to do serious work.
Really all i need is a good bloodborne and battlefield 3 online(bigger lobbies, mash two or three maps together.) then i will shill AI my damn self.
>>748894636Make that King of the Hill GTA Propane game with AIThen I'll admit its good
>>748912495The banana taped to the wall is such a huge filter. The face that you're still talking about it and seething shows how effective of a statement it was
>>748921624Aww, the little jeet can't read more than three lines.
>>748894636It's called a fucking game, what the fuck is wrong with these fucking retards?
>>748921934People are STILL mad about Piss Christ 30+ years later despite it being a pretty poignant piece of commentary if you actually listen to the artist
>>748921934>if people seethe about it, it's artCool.
>>748894636>quit having funholy shit art fags are insufferable good riddance for this queers
>>748894636》Gamers want games to be FUNwhy is this a bad thing?
Y-YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE FUN WITH VIDEOGAMES AGAIN!!!!VIDEOGAMES ARE ABOUT THE MESSAGE!!!
>>748894636>"Grow up and watch sports and family sitcoms like the rest of us adults!"Nah your shit's trash.
Can anyone against this point me to some modder that I can hire and do this joke-y thing that I'll just play a couple of times for fun then never again?Just any modder at all that I can hire right now to do that exact same thing, tell me how long it'll take for them to do that and then how much I'll pay him?
>want to mod something very specific into my favorite game>everyone thought it impossible>pay for the $20 claude plan>ask it if the mod is possible>instantly analyzes files and figures out how to work around the limitations to make the exact mod I want>even analyzed animation data to make an animation based on what I describe and patch it into the gameFUCKING GIGACHAD HOLY FUCK I CAN'T CONTAIN MY EXCITEMENT AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE
>>748894636Every attempt to make games art led to mimicking film and abandoning everything that made games unique. These mash ups are 100 times more soulful than anything released by the industry in nearly 2 console gens.
I don't even like AI stuff and that's a stupid argument. Games are toys.
>>748922817Even free claude can just patch shit up in games too>claude i want to make a bepinex plugin that does this and that here is the assembly-csharp.dll>wait around 2-5 minutes>doneAnd retards wants me to pay for some discord mod team do to the same job over months between their voice chat goonseshs
>all this impotent seethingyikes
>>748923195I don't think this would've been made in a free session. I've also been making some other stuff so paying the $20 hasn't been an issue. I'll probably post a webm of my mod later after trying it out and seeing if it works like I want but it's gonna be a bit before I get to that point
>>748923195Can someone give a step-by-step guide on how to do this assuming I have the assets for both games? I'm still convinced this is fake honestly.
>>748923572>Can someone give a step-by-step guide on how to do this assuming I have the assets for both games? I'm still convinced this is fake honestly.Basically you get a emulator engine or decomp tool for your games and use claude code with computer access and leave it for a few hours. It will run and test and refine and make ti for you. it has to use your computer though and probably claude code on a sub.But honestly just go to it and ask it will tell you on the free section free is lazy though so tell it to search.
>>748922817claude refused to turn fallout 4 into a sissy hypnosis themed game due to guideline issues
>>748921934>>748922061""""Statements"""" aren't art. >You're both huge faggots.A powerful, factual statement. Some might even call it artful, but it's not art.>if you actually listen to the artistListen to yourself, by your own admission the artist failed to even make a coherent statement and has to explain it after the fact.
>>748922128What is this shit? It is just doodles.
Has anything interesting been done like GTA protagonists in Bully or other way around?Or is it just more gay shit like skating and X character in skyrim and Elden ring??
>>748924094someone recently ported koikatsu into ocarina of time
>>748923195>>748922817Post the mod then. Do it. You won't. It doesn't exist.
>>748924741I have to unlock the character and test the mod in battle. I'm close to that point right now but I haven't actually tested the mod. I might have to do some debugging if there's errors but we'll see here in about 15-20 minutes
>>748924956Confirmed fake. Faggot ai marketer.
>>748925238You're actually retarded. I'm not at the point I can test the mod yet
>>748894636>gamers don't want pretentious movie games masquerading as "art". They want games they can play, games that are bold and different, new, not formulaic or built by a boardroom committe.I'm sure your point sounded better in your head.
>>748924741What mod? I'm talking about my personal experience with making simple bepinex .dlls with claude because I dont want to pay some modder to do the exact same job but it taking months
>>748921624>>what are new book editions and releasesShit and censorship.>>what are album remasters and remixesShit that destroys the original sound.>>what are movie remakesShit and censorship.No one wants those. Enjoy the original product or FUCK OFF. You were never a fan, never interested or you are just too stupid. Gatekeep EVERYTHING.
>>748894636oh no how dare people have fun
>>748895396
>>748926105I've been saying this for years and years. Literally everything worth watching/reading/playing is right there, available for completely free with the tiniest amount of tech literacy. Yet fags everywhere are pining for meaningless remakes 24/7. Normies deserve the own nothing and (pretend to) be happy fate they are getting.
>>748925238Alright, I finally got to the point where I could test my mod. Claude almost got it correct on the first try but now I'm fixing it so that it should work more like I want. Here's the webm for actual proof the mod is working even though this was the first attempt. If you've never played Legend of the Dragoon before, Shana doesn't have an additions and ultimately is a weak character because of this as every other character has additions. There's an editor that can give characters new animations but it hardlocked Shana/Miranda so you could've give them animations. Claude got past that lock and straight up made what was initially thought to be impossible considering Shana/Miranda being hardcoded not to have any additions. I'm having claude fix the animations to be more in line with what I want and will post an update afterwards when I try out the fix
>>748926527Holy shit, I made several spelling errors. I'm too excited for this shit right now HOLY FUCK
>>748926431OOOOOOO THE CONTROLS ARE TOO CLUNKYOOOOOOO THE CAMERA IS BAD IT NEEDS TO BE OVER THE SHOULDER THIRD PERSON OOOOOOO THE OLD VAS ARE BAD I NEED TO HEAR E-CELEBSOOOOOOO IT DOESN'T HAVE AUTOSAVE EVERY 5 FRAMES I HATE HAVING TO MANUALLY SAVEOOOOOOO THE PUZZLES ARE TOO HARD AND THERE ARE NO HINTS
>>748914418>>748912432Batman is stronger than Cyborg and Cyborg is strong enough to destroy the universe >1,000,000 times over in a single attosecond. Bruce would absolutely crack the entire Marvel Universe.
>>748894770You can decomp a gameboy game by hand in like a week, Pretty sure there's non-AI tools to do it in a day that have existed for years now.
>>748926527I swear when you said "a game" the last fucking thing i could think about was legend of dragoon. Good for you i guess.
>>748926943It's my favorite game and I always wanted additions for Shana. So yes, this is good for me. Thanks
>>748913204>Speaking of Spiderman just solving shit, how do the Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones team even function in New York with Spiderman around? Jessica Jones is more of a detective, so she doesn't deal with the same things Spidey does, as he searches for crime, while Jessica waits for someone to call her to solve a problem. Luke Cage used to be around Spider-Man's level of power, but since Bendis' New Avengers (Around the 2000's), he's much closer to Thing's level of power. Plus, with the sheer amount of threats in New York, Spider-Man can't be everywhere at once, and he already has a lot on his place, specially during the times he has four ongoings which are all 616 canon and may reference each other.
>>748927017What is even additions?
>>748927295They're the addition button presses you can do in battle to do more damage and gain SP once that character unlocks their Dragoon form. Basically it's just a way for you to interact with the combat a little more instead of pressing attack and watching an animation
>>748927380Oh I see that is neat. And why everyone thought it was impossible?
>>748894636>don't want games as art but instead games as a giant toy boxIF I WANTED TO EXPERIENCE ART SO I CAN PRETEND TO BE HIGH IQ WITH OTHER NITWITS PRETENDING TO BE CULTURED, I’D WATCH A SNOOTY FUCKING EMO MOVIE!!!YES, TOMMY VERCETTI BUSTING A TRE FLIP INTO A DIRT LOT IS SICK. GET FUCKED.
>>748926527You're a disgrace, think of all the uuuuuh Legend of Dragoon modders that you're putting out of work
>>748927462Shana, who later gets replaced with Miranda, never originally had additions and was hard-coded to never have any additions. The person that made the editor to give custom additions to characters also put a hardlock to prevent Shana/Miranda from getting custom additions presumably because they thought it might be impossible. Essentially, I had claude look at animation data and code to determine whether it was possible to bypass this restriction and claude just went ahead and did it. I don't know how to code or the actual very specific reason but that's sort of what I understand. Quite literally nobody has done this before but I've had this idea brewing these past couple of days and wanted to try it and it's working absolutely great and now I'm debugging the mode to make it better
>>748894636Why cut the user? Are you aware people can just find it by looking at the original post? Is that supposed to be your profile? Looks extremely faggy.
>>748927929If you have a twitter profile, you're a faggot.
>using Nintendo assetsquick way to get your shit shutdown and an IP infraction hoisted upon LLMs
>>748926527just made me realize we're not too far from AI remastering games well. >fix these bugs>apply these new updated models>perfect
>>748926832this comic is retarded not because any of that, 100db can already deafen you
>>748898957not to 4chuds
>>748927929This has to be engagement bait for twitter money, I refuse to believe some faggot named puppycelebrity, with a cartoon pfp, is calling gamers manchildren that just want toys. It's literally this meme
>>748923120toys are art
>>748926527impressive, damn i cant wait for it to be more retard proof, i know shit all about code to even know how to prompt it plus being too poor to pay for it
>>748927724That is neat. I sort of want to ask why the original edits thought it wouldn't be done but feels like it's a niche game with not too many eyes on it. But I'm happy that everything is working out for you anon, did claude had to reverse engineer the game at some point?
>>748894636So uh... Pokemon RBY but as a GTA-like sandbox when?
>>748894636If a game isn't fun, why even play it?What do I even get from paying up 80 fucking euros for a game that's nothing more than an interactive movie? And a boring one at that.
>>748928701I'm a retard myself nor do I know how to code. I'm letting claude do literally everything and trying to explain the best I can. Claude is pretty good at interpreting retard so you could give it a shot. I'm only on the $20 per month plan and abiding by the token limits without paying any extra.>>748929183>did claude had to reverse engineer the game at some point?Yes. You can allow claude to look into a folder path to see the files and it'll do the rest from there. If what you're looking at is open source, give it the github link and it'll look at the code. Severed Chains and the editor are open source so claude was able to look with the help of accessing the files from the path of the game.
>>748921934Hey man, you sound really cool, can I see the art you created?
>>748929330>I'm only on the $20 per month plan and abiding by the token limits without paying any extra.i am actually poor so cant even pay for that, will wait for it to be cheaper/free so i can edit old games too
>this timeline will see skyrim with actual, playable combat within the next year or twoHOLY SHIT WAIT A MINUTE
>>748894636Aren't games supposed to be fun, first and foremost? It's an entertainment medium. If a game isn't fun what's the point?
>>748929681Skyrim with Half-Sword combat is literally all I ever wanted.
>>748929703spreading the message of the trans experience is more important than your "fun" chud
>>748894636mods and player options just rape these people's brains huh
>>748917534I think it's the probably the opposite where you have just done absolutely nothing with your faggot life and now you're just happy everyone is getting knocked down a peg closer to your level.
>>748930591Niggerfaggotkike.
>>748930591You felt called out and raped lmao. Get laid (off).
>>748905446>people should only say nice things to me when i make low effort threadsSo /v/ is Reddit now?
>>748929448>i am actually poor so cant even pay for thatUnlucky but I got claude to make the animation smoother and everything almost feels like it belongs in the game which is exactly what I wanted.
>>748917534>Don't cry because you failed film school and couldn't get into Hollywood.Is this projection?
>>748930934>shana now has additionsWHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT IS HAPPENING
>>748930934good shit, i feel someone will need to make a website just for mods done with ai, will you share it?
>>748931031they're just mods, you can put them on nexus oc pcgw
>>748894636why do retarded "videogames are art" niggers think videogames shuld be like movies to be art? they're PLAY, they're TOYS, they're supposed to be fun and interactive first and art second
>>748930939No, you're retarded. I suspect retards like you who want games to be "art" wanted to get into film and failed, so you settled on video games because of the significantly lower barrier of entry. You faggot. Kill yourself.
>>748931084i feel like nexus will ban stuff like that with how they are.
>>748931008I KNOW I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED THAT I CAN GET CLAUDE TO DO THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! This was the first attempt at the animation that claude did>>748926527 so you can see the improvement>>748931031I'm gonna make it available when I add some more additions so that Shana/Miranda can stay within the party the whole game not feel like bench warmers
We really are just getting threads with Claude shilling their subscription plans huh?
>>748931129that would be a death sentence for the website and there are already zillions of AI assisted mods on the nexus
>>748931104Idk anon, this still sounds like projection. I always thought making games was impossible compared to the other mediums.
>>748931187>that would be a death sentence for the websiteyes but they are retarded and political as hell
>>748931231they're not that retarded
>>748931272they got new owners recently who knows
>>748931167my god, you are a saint, anon. are you paying for a higher end model? i've been using the $20/mo GPT model for ages now and was really impressed with the free claude model (though it ran out of steam extremely quickly and i was forced to wait several hours to keep using it). seems like it's worth investing in (if i can afford it)
>>748931210I have never been to film school and have never wanted to get into film. I imagine making a walking sim about depression is easier than making a film.
>>748931338I'm just using the $20/mo plan which gives access to Opus 5.5 and that's what I've been using. I made a mod for Control Resonant with it too
>>748930831WFH pharmacist btw who is geting payed to shitpost, what is it you do again?
>>748931395>all you need to make a "film" is a camera>meanwhile making anything that comes close to a "game" requires spending hours and hours learning a shit ton of different software
>>748931178shit is fucking hilarious for anybody who uses these ai models. they barely work for extremely simple stuff and constantly write straight up wrong code, but i guess somehow you can totally hack ps1 games without knowing any coding whatsoever
>>748930124where can I get that mod?
>>748931449Do your job, nigger. I worked in hospital settings fo 11 years and we could never rely on the goddamn COE pharmacists for anything.
>>748931412based, i'll look into it if the current GPT plan doesn't suit my needs. been afraid of working on mods because i have no idea what to expect.
>>748930939That's been a very obvious observation for anyone who's been following video games for any time at all, man. Where do you think people like David Cage and Neil Druckmann come from?
>>748931449>WFHLMAO
>>748930934>>748931008>>748931031I have no idea what is happening but you guys seem hyped so I am also hyped now
>>748931720i never played that game but i find the idea cool and knowing its now possible for a random retard to do it using only AI made me excited
>>748931537I am!!! I just got some dude enrolled in CPA for his otezla which brought that shit down to a $0 copay and already sched'd the order with them in the time since I last posted. Tell your grandparents I said "You're welcome"
>>748931720you'd have to have played LoD to get it. The two archers in the game didn't use the game's main combat gimmick (timed hits aka "additions") for whatever reason. anon is adding them in, which is crazy.
>>748926527I appreciate that your the first here to show an actual mod anon, hope it works out for you
>>748930124>>748931525nvm found it on ayaka modshttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1fmfxTBRHzP7ZY-bPGcUKHbAh2RFaJ5ab/view
>>748931837>solving the national opioid crisis one shitpost at a time...you're alright, nigger.
>>748931476>handful of troons make a shitty "film" on their phone>laughed out of even the dinkiest of small time film festivals, never make a penny>handful of troons make a gone home clone in a few months>cause a ruckus on twitter and make at least six figures in revenueJust don't say anything if you don't know jackshit about either industry, retard.
>>748894636>games are artfaggots are mentally ill people and they should be inside a mental health asylum, we shouldn't have allowed them to walk free in the world and give their opinion
>>748932103>films have lower barrier of entry but more pretentious wankers >games have higher barrier of entry but less pretentious wankersDoesn't stop pretentious wankers from ruining everything, good, bad or otherwise.
the vast majority of the most dedicated indie dev trannies aren't going to know what makes a game good no matter if they've played many "all time classic" games and watched however many game design videos. give an even less sure of what makes games good retard an ai that can make games, and he sure isn't making anything good either
>>748931493>shit is fucking hilarious for anybody who uses these ai models. they barely work for extremely simple stuff and constantly write straight up wrong code,meanwhile an anon IN THIS VERY THREAD MADE A MOD FOR EVERYONE TO SEE WORKING and you are saying it writes wrong code?
>>748930879always has been
>>748932263There are two kinds of people:>1) Stupid people>2) Smart peopleOnly one of these is capable of making proper use of LLMs.
would you guys play Kingdom Borderlands?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h_V-ye45yLU
>>748894636>games as art>games as toysWhy not both?
>>748894636I just hate it because I think crossovers are lame, just look at smash bros
>>748932163That's not at all true, you retard. Games have a much, much lower barrier to entry than film. It's why failed filmmakers become game devs, this isn't controversial.
>>748909219>is... is that a movie done entirely with AI instead of selling your soul to hollywood, paying a cast, paying a set and paying troons to write it ???!!!!!! OH MY FAUCI I AM GOING INSANEyou lost troon, nobody wants you, nor people, nor god, nor nature, nor artificial intelligence, nor yourself as well
>>748932383TOYS CANNOT BE ART BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE ME LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT RATHER THAN A SOPHISTICATED MAN OF CULTURE AND TASTE
>>748932424>this isn't controversialProbably because it's bullshit.
>>748894636>decades of "what if [game] but in [game]" spouted around>finally able to achieve it without some indie dev shitting it up and neither idea works well>NONONONONOOOOOOOO STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPI dont care for ai all that much but this is literally the first time ive been excited for something to happen in video games in actual years.
>>748932409It's not only about making the crossovers. You basically became the god of Vidya. You can create anything. You can rape anyone you want.
>>748932634This, kek. How can so many anons not realize this?
>>748921825links?
>>748914778>Context, themes, subtext, symbolism, etc are inherently out of reach for AI generation due to the inexact nature of patronizing art.I will agree with this, BUT there is an argument to be made if that is even wanted here. Imagine a skate park, concrete flat top, concrete hills, a set of half pipes or a bowl, and some ramps. You COULD appreciate the merit of having constructed this from an engineering/architectural design perspective, but most users will probably only see it 99% for its functionality. And that is kind of what OP's screencap is saying with a bittered tone; they want the action of playing with the physics, they are appreciating the play and mechanics aspect of the game more than the intentional craft of an environment. I think finding that weird is weird itself. Like people don't just play Minecraft, Tony Hawk, or Grand Theft Auto aimlessly and just fucking around. Yeah there is absolutey room in vidya for cohesion, level design, and art, but some games also can be fun by simply being fun to play.
>>748913948yo same desu
>>748901480you can have an LLM rewrite it
>>748895302I think one of the majesties of this LLM code rewriting is that you can tell your own agent to make you chocolate cake with whatever topping you want, and I can get eggplant on mine to satisfy myself without needing to expunge someone's life into developing eggplant cake to then make 4 sales off and flop.
>>748895791any local genners know of good models or LORAs for the job?
>>748895075wheres the feminism aspect to this? ugh, goonslop
>>748921934>The banana taped to the wall is such a huge filterYes, it filters people with good reasoning skills and only leaves the self-destructive ducks that need to feel good about 'getting' something that isn't thereThis whole deification of 'art' and the 'artist' is so retarded anyway, back in ye good old times a random shoemaker was considered an artist
>>748932263Anon, do you know what a shill is? And I actually mean in the original sense of the word, where you'd have a con artist with his little shell-and-cup gambling game and his little shill companion who can totally win the rigged game and draw in the gullible retards who proceed to try it for themselves and predictably lose.This is what AI marketing is. The people who "successfully" use it to mod their dream games are either already extremely adept with the tools, or they're as fake as a Chinese robot and are using actual programming to simulate a finished product. But in either case, the point is to get mentally stunted wall lickers like you to pay money for a service that will never give you the advertised results.
>>748903523>"stop driving drunk"
I want Rio 2 levels in Angry Birds Trilogy
>>748894636Games are not art, games are a mean to have fun.
>>748894636I'm curious. Don't care too much nor will I play it. But curious.
>RE Outbreak with functional online, new maps, characters, and enemies
why do they not make something original insteadis this just another tiktok trend
i don't like this faggot but the mindset that more "content" is always good, is what led us to the fortnite/cod crossover live service shitfest we have now
>>748934046why do you live under a rock and assume you know what everyone is doing with AI?
