Ever since there was that recent controversy over Steam refunds I've been thinking about how copy and paste this genre really is. Easy objectives so you can focus more on hanging out. Proximity chat. Chaotic gameplay loops. These games are essentially clip factories: simple enough for anyone to jump in, cheap enough for whole friend groups to buy on impulse, and engineered so the funniest moments come from player interactions rather than deep systems. And it's like a race to see who gets picked up by a big content creator first since that's essentially your big break. On the flip side, with so many things competing for your attention now, I can understand the appeal of people just wanting something that is quick and easy, that they don't have to spend hours teaching someone else, and that they can generally have a good time in. I think people focus a lot on the quirky-looking titles, but there seems to be more variety to this pool of games if you take the time to dive in. Is it a bad thing to have friends in video games?
Everyone needs a reality check that not every game needs to be made for you, your tastes or specific needs.Shit on things you dont like all you want, but>Waaah games made for friends are so easy they are ruining games and should not be madeAre not made for you, they literally are made for groups of friends to fuck around, enjoy their time together playing some brain dead bullshit that gives them a laugh.It doesnt need intricate story pacing, clever game design beats or unique setups, just something for the friends to do why they engage in the main activity which is being with friend and having a laugh together, chatting about bullshit and probably drinking while doing it.
>>748900075What I'm interested in is if people make new friends with these games, or do they play with previously built circles?
Is it any good?
lobbo?
>>748900075>Is it a bad thing to have friends in video games?No, and that has nothing to do with the "friendslop" games you mentioned.We used to have proper co-op and PVE games that still required practice and effort. Now, it's all the same "extraction shooter / run & hider" slop.Pic quite related. Easily the best co-op action game ever made.>>748901315They only play with their friends / stream-fag colleagues.
>>748904725I wish I had friends...
doko
>>748907807never
>>748907807please???
>>748902807its fun and if its on sale its worth
>>748900075the systems CANT be deep because the whole purpose of friendslop is that it is to put guardrails on your autistic ass ruining the game for everyone by minmaxxing too hardin essence, friendslop accomodates groups of mixed skill levels better than other games by lowering the ceilingnobody will reply to this post because it is too based and correct
>>748914792Don't tell me what to do.
>>748914792Never thought about it trying to accommodate different levels of skill.
I tried to launch PEAK and wtf is this
>>748917504buttplugs have been added
>>748917504seem self explanatory
this is going to start having peakfags infest it with lobby invites btw
>no 370 lobbyI can't cum yet. I have to hold.
wheres corvus
>>748920154dead
>>748920154Shot himself
>>748920076host a DRG lobby then
>>748900462/v/groids will seethe about how friendslop isnt cool but then beg for a million JRPGs where they simulate relationships with friends and women
>>748914792>better than other games by lowering the ceilinga better design is to make it really easy to get into, but hard to masterbut you don't need to master the game to clear it
I want to get ‘gamble with your friends’ but I don’t have friends :(
>>748921754>BE NICE THO!!!
>>748921220"easy to learn and hard to master" doesnt solve the problem that friendslop solves. it's completely irrelevant to what im talking aboutimagine playing terraria with an autist as a normie, and by the time the first night is over and you've figured out how to craft torches, the autist already has 260 hp and a starfury. maybe if the normie is lucky, the autist gives him a bunch of heart crystals and a water candle. the normie's fun has basically been shortcut by the autist. you can say this is a failing of the game to teach a new playersome techniques friendslop games use to mitigate this:>anti-dweeb mechanicsin left 4 dead if you run too far ahead from the group, the game actively attempts to sabotage you by spawning in special infected to intercept you. special infected are also designed to lock down a player so that they need another player to save them>lockstep progressionSlay the spire 2 rewards each player with items at the same time. there is not as much opportunity for a player to scoop up everything and get ahead vs contemporaries like risk of rain 2>player count gatingBig Walk's puzzles are MOSTLY unsolveable alone, and sometimes even impossible to start alone. there isn't much value to running ahead of everyone because there's not much to do alone
chaos lobby kokosteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775243728922717/76561198118803909JCAVHA
>>7489234406/20Time to climb
>>748901315this mf actually has no friends
>>748914792Truth, but I don't think that applies to GTFO, as the skill floor is quite highI also can't imagine playing GTFO in public lobbies, that must be a nightmare
>>748923347>imagine playing terraria with an autist as a normie, and by the time the first night is over and you've figured out how to craft torches, the autist already has 260 hp and a starfury. maybe if the normie is lucky, the autist gives him a bunch of heart crystals and a water candle. the normie's fun has basically been shortcut by the autist. you can say this is a failing of the game to teach a new playerbut at the end of the day, the new player is still alive and is free to do his own thing, is he?
>>748900075Why did you post a picture of GTFO when it is nothing like what you described. You could be 2 hours into a run and wipe because someone fucked up by letting a door open.
>>748900075>Is it a bad thing to have friends in video games?I don't like it because I can't play at my own pace.
>>748923440>so chaotic we all got photonedgood luck with the climb, they are on roots and still going
>>748924713the fact that you cant immediately see the problem is just evidence to me that these mechanics are necessary to corral autists into being enjoyable gaming companions
>>748923440are you guys winning?
>>748929015We are on gloom but mass photon strikes again
>>748914792>>748923347>>748927225Very good arguments and also completely true.
sage
>>748930451Based?
It's overino
>>748923440Oh my goodness thanks for hosting and I will once again say that it was indeed a legit flare which you can check yourself.
>>748923440We peaked!(sorry i didn't take pic)Sorry about photon everyone
>>748933891sometimes the connection is just buggy that day, thanks for hosting all the same.
I missed the lobbo
peak
where lobbo
>>748902807It allowed me to learn that both of my best friends are actual retards, so yeah, it's fun.
lobby plz
BDPISLYet another chaos lobby.12p, a4, caldera route.Install: https://thunderstore.io/c/peak/p/ThraacVentureCo/TheBadOnes/
>>748941441im joining rn
>>748941441we're dying lol
>>748941441We lost the flare.
>>748941441
>>748941441gg that was fun
>>748900075GTFO is the contrary to friendslop, it is an actual CO OP game and you're supposed to talk and do things together and not dick aroundI love it but it is not for everyone and certainly not slop
>>748900075This game should have had a solo-option.It's really fucking retarded how hard they went with the whole co-op aspect. Like what the fuck, dude.
>>748948290every coop game should be balanced around solo in my opinion
>>748946474>>748941441Caldera wipe again?
>>748948754Deep Rock Galactic did it well and /v/ calls it Reddit
Can we purge PEAKtard troons or at least put them in /vg/?
>>748948914drg is hot flaming shit with floaty gunplay and gay ass dudes
>>748900075GTFO was such a good game, wish the devs kept updating.
The AI are fucking retarded and I mean your team AI. The enemy AI are fucking boring.>Be standing a mile away>They can just 'tongue' you if they have line of sight>Same shit with the big enemies, they're just tougher and hit harder>Floaty as FUCK movement>Sometimes you're shooting at a thing, and it doesn't get hit because its frames are operating slightly behind where it actually is on your screenGTFO lived up to its name. I never dropped a shooter faster in my fucking life.
>>748949394>be standing a mile awayThe range of the licks is greatest when you're standing right in front of the enemy.It's best not to just move backwards, but backwards and to the side.And if you're in their face, try running behind them during their attack animation, they can't strike you if you're behind them. Crawlers being the exception, but you can dodge crawlers by hopping over them.
>>748948947i have the suspicion this thread was crafted by them, that being said feel free to host other games, i had fun playing with them space marine 2 and ready or not
>>748948889We peaked, but we don't have flare
either I'm retarded, or Unity is retarded, or the devs are retarded, could be all three, i don't know
>>748900075It’s amazing how having friends can change your perspective. For the past 8 years, I literally hadn’t played with anyone, so I started playing online and found two guys to play with.Now I get home from work looking forward to playing with them. The best part is that they’re down to play pretty much anything, no matter if we have to emulate it, buy it, or pirate it. The last games we finished were RE Outbreak 1 and 2 and they’ve simply become my favorite games in the franchise.
>>748955986I'm legit happy for you :) cherish gaming frens
>>748955986I wish I had someone to play games with like that...
>>748956429it's pretty fun ngl
doko lobbo plz
>>748958481No more peak for u.
>>748955104I'm confirming that the Devs are retardedgod damn I hate this shit, wasted my entire Saturday
>>748963461its always the devs man
>>748900075I want to try GTFO but I've never played a first person shooter before. Am I in for a bad time?
>>748965437>I've never played a first person shooter before>Am I in for a bad time?yes
>>748965437YesGTFO is one of the few coop games that are actual coop, meaning you can't fuck up or it is a wipeYou need friends and for them to be into it as well
>>748900075GTFO fucking sucks
>>748965821Friendlet
The friendslop genre has to be short and have a failstate to allow for people to filter out. The games won't appeal to every friend you have, and committing a group to a 10 hour game can't be done unless you are all on board or have an ulterior motive like recording shenanigans. Also helps when friendslop games are the price of a coffee or a happy meal.
>>748965632>>748965714I'll groom them into enjoying it.
Are any of these friendlsop games playable splitscreen or is it just online to play "with friends" but actually alone in your room?
>>748968575I played these in duoobscure 1a way outbaronyoutward lord of the rings somethingdivinity 2
>>748968873splitscreen btw
>>748968942Added all of these to the list, thanks bro
Why?
lobbo
i shall climb to forget the pain of navigating the clusterfuck of peak codessteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775243834196801/76561197997194879-CYBUVdaily seed
>>748974001host got client timeoutlolrehostingsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775243835548975/76561197997194879-CGQZH
>>748974534can still be joined?
>>748975984yes
>>748900075GTFO is literally unplayable shit
>>748974534alpine now
>>748974001>>748974534NO FOOD
whats with the invites in my thread loldid you guys take this over
>>748974534name him
>>748974534what a mess of an ending lol
>>748979294wait that's cute
>>748981612That's a terrible name
>>748948947If you look like this i gladly betrayed my peak friends
>>748974534
>>748974534crazy tropics, but gg, thanks for joining
>>748920154still stuck in the warp i'm afraid
>>748982210thanks for hosting J***bot
>>748976154Just press the buttons on the consoleretard
>>748982210
man I fucking love GTFOsuch a shame I have only 1 friend to play it with, doing R2E1 with bots was hell, the only E tier we managed to complete
>>748900075Hope I get to make friends one day
>>748982728gunbound moment
peakus
>>748982913Even the betterbots struggle on a lot of missions, any reactor sequences past R2 is gg for progress and there is a mission in R8 that requires a central terminal to connect to a secondary terminal and then you need to get back and confirm the connection within 15 seconds.Literally impossible for most of the terminals the game can choose as secondary ones as they are more than 15 seconds away. Designed for someone to stay there.
>>748900075I wish GTFO didn't feel like you had to expose the weakness in half the gameplay mechanics by doing goofy shit just to get by. A lot of missions feel too hard in co-op when your friends don't get it and you're stuck grinding the same encounters.
>>748986205Is it hard to learn the game properly?
>>748990025no but the game is hard like brutal fucking hard, prob the hardest coop game by a mile
CACJZMVanilla, A4, 12 Slots
>>748991215Hopefully I can play with some /v/ folks one day.
>>748900075>>748946507is online still alive? i only play with friends but i kinda need more boosters so i want to farm artifacts>>748949048no more updates?me and my friends just spent 20 hours finishing just the first rundown
>>748992051lol good luck
>>748991640Starting 9/12! Late join should work
>>748991640good luck scouts!!!!
Wow is chatroom first and a game second, you ruin it for everyone including yourself when soloing everything. This is why we need to bring back bullying and slap up autistic retards for not playing the right way
>>748991640Hope they are doing good
>>748991640we peaked and nobody died except the several times I died in embarrassing ways
>>748991640Joined and broke my legs but I still got carried to the peak thank you.
ive let all of /v/eak down
>>749001562O*... no....
>>749001562My brother in Christ it was TENDERFOOT
Why is the sun so big?
>>749002634Someone shot the sun with sniperrifle
>>748990025>>748991215Absolutely this. There is no difficulty curve and the game will beat you down whenever it feels like. It's just straight up cock and ball torture at some points. There are a few ways you can manipulate the game to make some things a lot easier, but most of the time when the game is fucking you and you think it's over, that's when the real fucking begins and you've got nothing left. But it makes the initial moments of every mission way more intense. It's when you try to do missions over that a lot of the magic is lost imo, but it's still good fun.
>>749001697that seed was fucked>>749002559it was ascent one with around 15 players and default item multiplier
>>748900075I love GTFOBut we were really struggling at this mission and no one would tap out so we took this long to do it
>>748949048>>748992371>almost about to end the mission>Find the key to the quarantined part of the map>"Do we?">It's been an hour already but fuck it>Open it and it looks like the Event Horizon calling for our souls>Shits really creepy now>Wander a bit in pitch black>Fuck up>Can't close the bulkhead to escape>WipeGTFO is as balls busting as it is good.
>>748904725Deep rock galactic is pretty much an extraction shooter gumboI'll give it points because you can also play it soloBut you shouldn't be able to play Haz 5 untill you unlock every upgrade for a given dwarfAND win a Haz4 with itGoing to haz 5 with a no/half upgraded dwarf should be ban worthy, but the game allows you to fuck other people's games like that when the fix is really simpleSo for that it can't be the best co-opYou can't leaf me I'm like lvl 800
I have been playing with a group and let me tell you, GTFO is like a kick in the balls . But one that you want to keep coming back to. adding checkpoints is the cowards way of thing things, if you fuck up a 2 hour mission then that is your fault, you should not be able to go back and redo it
>>749006148>Deep rock galactic is pretty much an extraction shooter gumboThis nigga never played actual extractionslop.Also you know what you're signing up for when you're joining/hosting public lobbies.
>>748990025It's literally unplayable if your brain isn't wired for tactical corner hugging autism.
builder kino is back on the menu
>>748992051The biggest problem with GTFO is that due to the nature of the game a tight knit group is almost a requirement to play. You would be able to develop the skills required to get the fuck out if it was random matchmaking joining random lobbies in hopes of a good one. But this is also what makes it such a unique game, it does even try to help you. You either face it head on of fail. It is kind of like a mountain in that way, one that does not have a trail and is full of hostile wildlife.
>>749014661wait
actually some of the friendslop games are kind of trying some fun novel ideas. take that 3 disabled monkeys defusing a bomb game, that seems quite fun and also takes some actual coordination to try to do
>>749004126>Vitals Critical>Vitals Critical>Vitals Critical>Vitals Criticallol
>>749014661koko soon
>>749004126>5 hoursWHAT?
>>748900075>Pick up Jump Space with three of my friends>we all organize a time to play the next day>only three of us are playing, one of us doesn't want to>the 'leader' of the friend group with the most boisterous voice says "put on a timer for two hours" clearly not interested in keeping it>the game is actually fucking awesome mechanically and visually, suffers a little bit in pacing but that's to be expected>two hours pass, he's just complaining about how there's no humies to splatter and how every enemy is a machine and how it's 'soulless'>he refunds it and the rest of my friends do too>I'm left with the game at 2.1 hours so I can't refund it but I wouldn't anyway because I actually liked it>now nobody in my friend group can play this game I really like with meAs an aside, anyone had a friend group where you're all cool with eachother but one of them is clearly the defacto 'leader' and he just repeats things/jokes other people say which makes everyone else laugh harder because he said it? It's pretty fucking emotionally draining in my experience.
>>749017342Keep talking and nobody explodes is a classic and nobody talks about it at all..
>>749022983i hope you have pubs to play with or the game works solosucks about your friends
>>749025192If there are pubs, I don't know if I could tolerate random people in such a short form game like that, especially if clicking with them is impossible.. Otherwise the game 'is' possible to solo but like the fun is in how unbelievably fun it is to fly outside the ship during a dogfight, land on an enemy fighter that's harassing your ship and sabotage it's fuel pod to make it self destruct. It's a game packed full of soul and clearly designed for me but it's not a single player game.. That'd be like playing Barotrauma solo..
>>749025857i got quite far with barotrauma solo but at some point i needed big single fire turrets and the bots were too trigger happy with nukes
so what's up with these stairs? why are they placed like that?
>>748982468>Just press the buttons on the consoleretard
>>749027953so the king of the citadel can push his jesters down the stairs directly into half a mile of arrows and spike traps
>>748902807It's fine, but it's a one-playthrough kind of game. It's really too easy to draw people back for repeat plays. You fuck around with your friends for an afternoon, and if that's worth it for you go ahead.
>>749029940I saw they wanted to add an endless mode, I'm waiting on that.
>>749031315It's in the game already, but I question whether there are enough encounters to make it last. I memorized basically the entire game by my first playthrough. Still, good for a few hours with some mates.
>>749027953to make you look at the murals in that room
It's nice watching anons talk about games they like for once.
>>749033243that's me
>>749033243
>>749037880>>749037227>>749035135>>749033243>>749031756why not just name the thread peak thread if you guys send invites for peak in t
>>748952962should i get it if i like darktide?
>>748900075>gtfo>friend sloplol LAMO even
>>749039183Everything is friendslop
>>749004491>Doing prisoner efficiency run (R4B2 I believe, might have some details off)>Map starts by turning on an error alarm that spawns 2-3 enemies every minute for the rest of the game>Two hours in after turning on generators, carefully clearing room by room while keeping track of the wave spawns, letting one spawn slip past while others are stealthing through a zone would result in total chaos and loss of precious resources>Finally reach the bulkhead for the extreme objective>Everyone is already on edge>Door opens, its a dark fogged up hole in the ground with 5 scouts>If you managed to clear those without alert you're treated with a class 7 alarm>Final objective is to locate bio samples by sneaking into rooms packed with hybrids and big guys>Almost 3.5 hour in, balls sweating>Hear someone aggro a Mother in one of the final runs>Panic, lost track of wave timer as it spawns into a room full of enemies>MFW>Get fucked by 64313247 enemies in a matter of secondsThis game was amazing, it always found new ways to fuck your team over by inventing new rules or twisting them when you'd least expect it. It had tons of unique gameplay elements that challenged you and your team in new ways.Wasn't too keen on them adding checkpoints to maps as it kinda ruins the whole tension. Shame devs dropped it though there's still lots of content for new players I guess
saily deedsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775243977876903/76561197997194879
L4D2 is coop shooter and friendslop in a it's good way
>>749043245snaily sneed
