So is the game good now?
It's pretty much D3 but better now. It's ok. Not worth full price.
Depends on what you mean by "good". The campaign was actually pretty good from the start, and the second expansion campaign is better. So was combatfeel. The main problem was anti-fun mechanics like having to run into dungeons in the meme open world, annoying dungeon objectives like killing 300/300 enemies to proceed to the next area, lack of good endgame loop in general, lack of endgame content and depth compared to closest peer competitors like Path of Exile (2) and Last Epoch, and annoying monetization (very prominently selling battle passes and cosmetics - it's in your face).The current version retains the parts that it already did well, mitigates (but doesn't eliminate) anti-fun mechanics by for example letting you teleport directly to dungeons with press of a button (in effect bypassing the open world meme design by making it a queue simulator), has a coherent endgame loop, and has some target-farming and crafting options with Horadric Cube, but at a fundamental level it's the same game as before (it's not like it's now worth picking up if you previously hated the skills or atmosphere, say), including being "the casual Diablo2like".
>>748907187diablo games were never good
>>748907187Nah. It's a bit better now than on release, but that's like saying a 2 year old pile of shit is better now than when it first got shat out because it fossilized and doesn't stink as much. The abilities all look so lame and boring, and the pseudo mmo thing they got going on is a complete and utter failure. If you got the game and all expansions for free, you might have some fun fucking around for a weekend with a bro, but that's as good as it'll ever get.
>>748908768>and the second expansion campaign is betterWhat about Vessel of Hatred? Why did many people hate that one?
it's easily the worst of the current ARPG lineup. even last epoch and titan quest 2 are better
How does anyone actually progress through the story when there's a million things to do and a dozen quests every 5 feet to pick up? I think im level 50 and i haven't even gotten past act 1. I was like level 30 in D2 at the end of Normal. I hate this game design so much.
they wouldnt have already announced 5 if it was lol
>>748907187no its so dead they abandoned it and are making D5
>>748909064The mechanical additions of the expansion are boring: it's probably fine mechanically but it's not like I've ever yearned to play spiritborn. And the runes are, well, just there. As for campaign, the environments/setpieces are fine, but Neyrelle is annoying, and the story of the expansion defeats the purpose of building her up as a new new Horadrim in the main campaign in the first place.
>>748909626No one cares about the story in Diablo, I skipped every cutscene and dialogue line when the game came out.
I could never get past the difficulty system which can be tuned like a knob at any point, makes everything feel fake and fucks with my sense of progression, it like the whole game is just an infinite hamster wheel when all the mobs scale alongside you.
>>748907187bro it was so beyond saving blizzard outright abandoned it and announced they're going to try again with a sequel, what do you think?
but why is it 160 gigabytes?
>>748907187>D4 BAD
>>748907187It's so great they decided to never update it again and EOS soon.