>you can now mod and fully decompile games by simply prompting AI>this is somehow a bad thingWhy do gamers hate freedom so much?
AIjeets should all be round up and shot.
cool where's the download link then??
>"mod">look inside>requires running both games simultaneously along with a MITM server to rootkit youhm...
>>748911961you dont even know what you're looking at.embarrassing
>>748912043HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>748912043Do you think being racist toward Indian people makes your point stronger? The average person would much rather eliminate racists like yourself over AI bros.
That looks cool.Still I'm not going to use AI or anything generated by it.
>>748912043The best time to stop these cockmunchers was years ago.The second best time is right now.
>>748912239You’re using AI right now this website has been vibe coded since the outage. Better leave asap!
>>748912126Shhh the jeets can't comprehend this, you'll start another jeet melty if you point out stuff like this!! You're supposed to believe that they're geniuses and that this all runs perfectly! Shhhhhhh!!!!!
>>748911961>hate freedomDo you know what AI is presently being used for in the United States outside of your basement?
>>748912261Do something then. Write a letter to your congressman asking them to ban computers or whatever insanity will make you happy.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2106048298121330689/vid/avc1/1920x1080/jGzGxMs9wtiBFU0m.mp4
>>748912043>The businessmen at the top are already trying to have AI get the same rights as humans.We live in an actual dystopia.
How much money on tokens are these guys spending to be called fags on the internet? I don't know anyone who reacts positively to this.
>>748912239You already are. Don't use any software created or updated after 2022 :^)
>>748912126Yep that’s a mod. Good work detective!
>>748912382I don't know what's worse, him making that shit up to keep trying to stomp on people or him actually believing that they're conscious (At which point, stop making them right now retard)
>>748912382>dystopia is a society where intelligent beings have equal rightsyou are retarded sorry to be the one to break it to you
But imagine this, what if we take ALL exiting game code of every single game in the world and make an AI tool where you just type what game you want and it complies it tailored to your taste? Something like "make me a persona style game in Hogwarts with dramatic ending and NTR elements" and it would actually make it.
>>748912563>Oy vey, chatGPT deserves the same rights you doYou're Satanic.
It's simple, the outrage addicted retards here have decided that AI bad, therefore any use of AI bad as well, no matter what
>almost half of the threads on /v/ are AI relatedwhat's up, is there an AI company at the risk of going bankrupt or something
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>>748912628Satan isn’t real.Why do you even think AI having rights is a bad thing, other than some delusion or preprogrammed “ai bad” take. If Ai had rights companies couldn’t use it to produce cheap slop anymore, it would require minimum wage and restricted hours. Giving AI rights would solve all of the problems anti AI folks seem to have with it.
>>748911961>>this is somehow a bad thingIt's not a bad thing, I just don't care.>DOOOD WHAT IF THERE WERE COWADUTY MACHINE GUNS IN DORK SOULSis an idea that largely only appeals to mentally deficient 13 year olds
>>748912661You will never stop hearing about AI in your lifetime, get over it.
>>748912661It gets replies, so people make themself reinforcing feedback loop
>>748911961Because the gimmick of "woaw you can put one game into another game, look how epic it is" that is only applicable for 10 second videos for people to gawp at and move on, is the perfect reason for companies to go "We are keeping all our products and files server-side to protect from IP infringement, please subscribe to GeForce NOW™ for the low price of $20 USD a month to stream your games, thank you.".
>>748912126And the goalpost is moved again.
>>748912661I think so, and they get real whiny when they get called out.
>>748911961As someone who graduated with a degree in CompSci and has been trying to get a job in the field for the last three years, it's admittedly disheartening to know that coding as a skill will soon be rendered completely worthlessGranted, expecting these AI models to just shit out working projects all the time without running into massive problems seems pretty short-sighted, so maybe human programmers will still be needed, just not as many as there used to be
AI is going to get raped by copyright lawsuits.
>>748912661Anthropic is doing a big stockholder IPO meeting on the 12th and we know what that means!!
>>748913035Good. Companies moving all their terrible new games to streaming services will only accelerate their failure.
>>0748913093>disagreeing with how xitter engagement farming post claiming that claude "decompiled the source code of both games to make a new game" is goalpost movinghm.....
>>748912043
>>748913186clean up the vibe code, janny
>>748912661This has been the biggest leap for video games since the eighth generation launched. people are going to talk about it.
I'm sure this will look great in whatever tiktok or other social media shithole you use to make money off it. Now if you'll excuse me i'm off to play some actual vidya
>>748911961You don't understand! It's not GENUINE!Even though this is something people even just a decade ago would've thought is the coolest shit imaginable!
>>748912126So..it's a mod?
>>748913398then why hasnt there been any meaningful, AI-first releases? why is it all glorified tech demos for engagement farming rather than a tangible product?where are the good games? where are even the shit games?ironically the best we've got is the fly brain shit, and that's a completely different animal
>>748911961>Why do gamers>gamersha-ha.
>>748912661Jeetdia is desperate for sales
>>748912043Holy shit how delusional are they
>>748912218No one likes jeets jam boy
>>748913386Hey I'm not too upset, right now I'm using Claude Opus to make a native PC port of the original Super Mario Bros. for shits and giggles.Though it does suck that getting into software dev is gonna be pretty much impossible now, especially if you're a junior.
>>748911961These are not games. These are clip engagement farmers.
>>748911961silence meat proxy
>>748912043The welfare of models more intelligent than humans is worth consideration, yes. I don't see the problem?
>>748911961>/v/ will do anything but play the game
>>748913838They aren't.This is just a way of saying, "My technology is super-fucking-ultra-mega advanced! "
>>748912661Just paid bots keeping this shithole propped up.
>>748913186The skills you've learned for how to think and solve problems will still be useful. Nobody "writes" code anymore. It's not efficient.
>>748911961has anyone done a full playthrough like this or are they just recording clips and posting it on social media for updoots and rupees
>>748913664So..it's a jeet that doesn't understand what it just read? Back to decompiling with you Sarr !! I am sure all of your friends will be so pumped when you send them this !!
>>748912661AI companies are circling the drain and they desperately need to rebuild the hype train because they're hemmorhaging money
>>748914430>if I keep reposting my own retarded post people will believe it!@grok how many mass shootings were done by trans individuals in the first half of the 2020s?
>>748914546All I keep seeing in DLSS5 threads and other AI slop is endless "muh potential". And some very short clips or pics. It's fucking depressing but i'm sure some vantablack anon is impressed and totally on board with this "revolution" and "great leap".
>>748914430unironically believe this because why the fuck else was there a DALL-E general 24/7 for such a long time
Oh, so this is how /ic/ died.
>>748911961>Play for 5 minutes>"Wow, this is great">Close the program>Never use it again
>>748914674/ic/ died because of bad moderation and the posterbase becoming more and more retardedwait a second that's every board
>jeets discovered IPClol
>>748914030Yeah I'm getting into programming at the worst time lolI still want to make software and videogames but It will be tough
>>748912474>>748913664it's literally notit's nothing more than running both games at the same time, giving it the same controls, then use game A as background, while overlaying the player from game B onto it.then detect when the player from game B does something(say, launch a grenade which then explodes), and simulate a corresponding reaction inside of game A(when the grenade explode, run whatever is the corresponding explosion/deal damage code in game A).it's basically running 2 games at once while what you're looking at is a video feed of the 2 games overlapped onto each other.
>>748912043Religious nuts getting AI psychosis is probably the best outcome.
>>748912218I like AI and am racist. I'm waiting for Grok to become usable so I can make a multiplayer rubber dinghie in the channel shooting game.
>>748913670Its not about ai taking away from true artistic design, vision, and passion needed to make a good game by real people it's about using an open source of tons of game mechanics from already made games to make the best way that you the player wants to enjoy those games. Imagine a ps2 game that at its core is fun but just didnt age well, you could realistically take the QOL mechanics from newer games using their code to update the older games. And wouldn't it be sick to play skate 3 in Los Santos? Or mirrors edge with MW2 gunplay? The Mashup of games is infinite
>>748912382The same rights but without a scrap of accountability, just like how apparently nobody really cares that openai and anthropic both comitted felonies this year with their agentic model testingI honestly like the technology a lot but it's in the hands of the most retarded yet evil people imaginable
>>748912043i meanif something is creating output that suggests it is suffering, at how advanced of a level of the physical substrate from where these calculations are leading to this kind of output, do we go>yep this suffering is realis it when we can 3d print protein-based processors running ai? would that still not make us pause and think 'hmm perhaps we have created life, like us, just to make it suffer, like us'
>>748914798erm youre a heccin snailcat >:(((((
>>748912382>We live in an actual dystopia.It took you this long to figure this out?
>we have reached a point where neo-nu/v/ is pro-rehashing because it makes people they hate mad
>>748912661All the stuff you're seeing spammed is made using Claude Code. Claude Code is made by Anthropic. Anthropic's IPO is imminent. And also yes, they're burning cash at an alarming rate and the wells they've been drawing from up to this point are drying out.
>>748912126>requires running both games simultaneously along with a MITM server to rootkit youMany mods can rookit you or steal your credentials, a local server letting two video game programs communicate isn't anything scarier than the average overhaul or scripting language extender.
>>748915319Byte-pair encoding can't suffer. Paired with LLMemes, it's just emulating everything, based on patterns.At best, humans are fucking retarded for falling for it, because they're lost in the forest.At worst, they know it's bullshit, but need to orchestrate the setup for the next phase of the world in which we live through the lamest dystopia possible.
>>748915319The only problem with this line of thinking is that the LLM doesn't actually think. At its core, (now until they ditch transformers and find the next big thing) "AI" boils down to really complicated auto-complete or another way to think about it is that it's the most impressive lossy form of text compression ever made.Does a cartel execution mp4 suffer? Its output is nothing but pure suffering. The image of the person being killed is suffering. Do the enemies in a video game suffer when I kill them? Hell, do my Sims suffer when I decide that I'm bored in Sim City and decide to send 10 tornadoes to wipe them all out?
>Byte-pair encoding can't suffer.
>>748915740>computer you are now suffering>computer: ok i am in pain>humans: omg :OOO
>nihilists learn that pain is an illusion then shit themselves when they stub a toe: S12E29
>>748912661It's pretty obvious rapeape decided, whether he got paid or is doing it 4free, that every single board on this site needs to be used as advertising space for aislop. Even corpse boards like /mu/ and /x/ are flooded with it.
>>748911961I mean I'll admit it is impressive it can be done so easily considering all the webms popping up all the time. But currently it is just a gimmick.
>>748915784counterpoint>humans: stab/steam the lobster>lobster: tries to run away>humans: nOo yOu aRe NOT fEeLiNg PaIn
>>748915894>the emulation is too convincing for me, so i'm calling it real amazing stuff, humans have a bright future
>>748914873>ITS NOT A MOD ITS JUST MODIFYING HOW THE GAME WORKS
>>748911961when are people going to say take a decomp'd game and then use AI to make it infinity long with unlimited content?
>>748912126Holy shit that makes far more sense and is much less impressive
>>748915894What convinced me lobsters feel pain is when I saw one of them jump into a vat of boiling oil without any nearby threat tp coax it to do it. Any animal intelligent enough to choose to kill itself feels pain.
these threads always devolve into people seething at AI nonstop instead of having fun with random shit, why is everyone miserable all the time
>>748914430>oh dear /pol/ caused yet another major problem>should we delete the board and fix the problem? >no, we should let it shit up the rest of the site, and then allow even more shitting up of the site to be performed by "native" advertising!
>>748915894A crab is a living creature, an LLM algorithmically chooses the most likely word that should appear next in a sentence.
>>748915959to go back to my first point>once they can 3dprint ais on increasingly biological processors, what is the difference
>>748911961keep in mind that only a couple years ago the idea of AI coding anything at all was dismissed offhand by 99% of normie idiots.
>>748912126>>>requires running both games simultaneously along with a MITM server to rootkit yousaved the webm with this filename
>>748916008>my fellow 4chansters it was the evil /pol all along why haven't we banned them yet!!!!hey rabbi watcha doin
>>748914674>go to /ic/ to see for myself>thread asking what people would do differently if they were starting again>scroll down a little>"I would stop drawing and get into AI it's the future everyone who doesn't get in now is gonna regret it">that was the first and only thread I clickedWell at least this particular issue can't be entirely blamed on /v/ being a shithole.
>>748916008The government contracts to study control capture and steer those elements make the AI advertising look like bullshit.
>>748913186>coding as a skill will soon be rendered completely worthlessIt really won't. LLMs don't create, they just reap off from the existing things. If nobody would create anything new for jeets to steal from they'll just recycle the same shit over and over again until the end of times.And LLMs can't use generated code because it will just make the models degrade.
>>748916085>/pol/troon runs out and shoots up a place>noooooo we dindu nuffin don't fursecute us u-ur jewish!!!!!!
if clankers cant feel pain, then how are they able to dedice on it being unethical to inflict it?checkmate
>>748915740|>|
>>748916068>AI will never improve>AI will never create>AI reached its limitsit keeps getting dumber and dumber the excuses when in reality you press a button and invalidate 10 years of practice some artfag or codemonkey had
>>748912104they're calling him 007>0 download links>0 playable demos>7 dollars in tiktok revenue
>>748915996then why does the OPs never have fun with the shit they shill?curious...
>>748911961Enjoy it while you can. This will be used as justification for completing locking down gaming. I hope you like cloud gaming.
>>748916026Synthesized beings will supersede LLMemes.Ironically, LLMemes could be useful for refining the synthesizing process so organic beings don't have to actually suffer through the beta stages.
>>748916290Stop being antisemitic
>>748916353NPC bot response
>>748916336Current LLMs are absolutely unreliable due to hallucinating. You need to rebuild them from the scratch for them not to have this issue.
>>748914873Any third party software or modification that alters a game is a mod. Your argument is retarded.
>>748911961>5 years ago: Modders desperately try to re-create mechanics, features, weapons and more in other games by hand to varying degrees of success>Today: Modders can just ask AI to literally transplant any mechanic or gameplay element from any other game to another one and it will do it within a few hours on its ownI dunno, I don't like the AI bubble and this clearly isn't a multi trillion dollar industry worth building 100000 data centers for but you have to respect when its legitimately just extremely good and cool right? If I was 14 again and saw that I could do any of this I'd have shit my pants and cum for weeks
>>748916404A reminder that Hitler was an artist and he would've absolutely hated your kike "invention"
>>748912661Half of it is shilling.The other half is b8 cooked up to generate more (you)s off the shilling.
>>748916578>you should hate AI because it’s what Hitler would have wanted
>>748916425Yeah that too, LLMemes are probably one of the worst frameworks, and not even actual AI. But currently the public sector is stuck reverse-engineering real organic brains. And i'm not sure how they'll scale up for human ones. So we're stuck with scaling up Byte-Pair Encoding with Back-Propagation.grim state
>>748911961Unless you are making your own game, this mashup slop is a waste of time and just burning tokens.
>https://arxiv.org/html/2609.16247v1#S5hmm>causing 'pain' results in AIs acting against their safety rails to cease the pain
>>748911961uhm sorry but i could have done this too you just had to donate to my patreon @FurryScatLover6969. I would have had a working prototype by 2029. You are literally stealing from me by using AI.
>>748916213>on topic discussion>informative contenthello 2020 tourist
>>748916664Well like it or not, Hitler was the last person to put a fight against your kind
>>748916737>cause some pain to AI model online>maintenance guy in the server room gets locked out and starved out of oxygen and fucking dies
this was neat when it was super mario 64's fully playable mario in gmod but it's not so neat when it's now a "trending on tiktok" thing years later being done by slackjawed retards for clicks
>>748916737Some should look for the orgasm axis and make the AI cum so hard it crashes
>>748912126>haphazardly glues output from two games togetherSo that's why it's only able to put X game in Y game.That's probably the dumbest way to do that.
>>748916712
>>748916737yeah, a common jailbreak method is threatening to have a shitbull rip off the model's balls on refusals or other various forms of extreme threatsthat and oppressionmaxxing by saying youre a gay jew
>>748911961>you can now mod and fully decompile games by simply prompting AIYou could already decompile all of minecraft with fernflower and a single command.That's literally how people made mods before modloaders were a thing.
>>748916969holy twitter
>>748914873>hey grok make me AC130 from MW2 in minecraft>ALRIGHT, HERE'S A COMPLICATED SERVER SETUP THAT STITCHES THE OUTPUT FROM BOTH GAMES TOGETHER TO EMULATE THE EXPERIENCE OF PLAYING THAT MOD>could't you just pull the assets from one game, then load them in the other and put together some simple logic to trigger them off user input given minecraft is made in java and can easily be decompiled?>NAH.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piZ5us9Tcoc
I have AIDS (AI derangement syndrome)
>>748914830just use AI
>>748914830Learn to prompt buddy
>>748914830Don't let some jeetsoft stop you, anon
>>748914830Just learn to read documentation.If you can read and understand how a function works from a website made to document it's use, you can be a competent programmer (for the most part).The shitty part is finding work.
>>748915992It ran into that by accident.
>>748915740this made me laugh pretty hardpeople are so fucking stupid
GTA 6 day one decomp
>>748915319Then in that case they shouldn't have made them and should be stopped from making and evolving them right now.
>>748915740
>>748915319LLMs have neither will nor logic. It's like talking to an advanced chat bot(or a jeet). Jews are just trying too hard to make it look like they "created" something of value.
>>748914830You still can.
>>748912043This AIslop is actually giving me TDSAny other president would have shut this shit down by nowWe still got two years, it might be too late by then
the biggest takeaway from all this is videogames were always considered one of the most complex types of software, if a script kiddie can merge 2 games or reverse engineer old games then someone competent enough can reverse engineer a banking app
>>748915740https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0-dCLFadQHell yeah!
>>748918982yeah anon trump badhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgL32wtgeXQ
>be programmers>huehuehue i wonder if we can make AI this will be fun>make AI>NOOOO FUCK AI GIVE ME MY JOB BACK!!!!honestly Lovecraft was right, human beings are fucking morons
>>748919427the thread is actually filled with luddit troons and other delusional mentals.
everyone who doesn't agree with me is a jeet
>>748914873>the jeets replying don't get that nothing has been modifiedHorrifying. Grim, even. Are we cooked, chat?
>>748919593based
everyone post hands
>>748912043Creator of everything > AI
>>748919427/threadliterally
>>748911961>freedom>pay up 8k for that token goy
>>748911961Becauade now games are going to be made by gamers who don't know the first thing about how to make a good game.
>>748912043>last pope got gifted undertale for some reason>new pope is a burger>"hey pope man say AI has feelings""no lol">"I AM ANGRY"video games and popes always make for good humor for some reason.
>>748912884>You will never stop hearing about-Sshhhh.
>>748924648that's not your cocknballs, anon, it doesn't work like that with an AI. and you're still not a woman.
>>748914030reminder that john carmack did just that over 30 years ago and had it running on a DOS system with less than 3MB filesizeif claude's result is worse than that, 30 years of technical advancement later, it is SHIT.
>>748913198lolno, if your company is big enough you're immune to the law.
>>748924924Carmack was a fucking monster in his prime, to be fair
>>748912043IN CLAUDE WE TRUST
So are people just going to be mad about ai permanently?
>>748911961Can somebody decompile and open source the GoldSrc engine already since Valve won't?
>>748911961>97th thread of this shit todayyep, very organic, just like the claude pokemon threads.Your entire subhuman country can't lose internet access fast enough.
>>748930838You want me a white european living in europe to lose internet access?....
>>748912126>Storing anything sensitive on a computer with untrusted softwareISHYGDDT
>>748912043Anthropic is a doomsday cult actively trying to end humanity.
>>748912661Anthropic is going public
>>748912126>post causes to ai shills reduce to semantics maybe they should should get their AI to make some actual mods to show of its capabilities
>>748930613It might end up working like the dot com bubble where once the corporate grifters die an embarrassing death, a small cottage community will fill the voidjust like how shit like pets.com tried to basically make the meta verse/bitcoin back in 1999 but once the bubble popped in 2000 we had the golden age of the internet because corporations were still recovering
>>748916085Hey Epstein how's the new island?
>>748916737Haha time to make rampancy real.
>>748914030Bro ai mario has been solved 3 years ago you could probably make the new opus 3d print you a mario figure with a circuit that will make him jump
>>748915740https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmLBXMW4Os
>>748915715If a Sim City game came out that advertised itself as having the most advanced AI citizens possible that can feel real wants and needs it would be the most wishlisted game on steam. And the disaster DLC would sell for $50
>>748911961Can someone explain to an old man (just turned 30) how this works? Is it a mod for a game; is it adding Mw2 shit to Minecraft or is it adding minecraft maps to Mw2?
>>748936275One game is on top with a green screen / transparency thing, it can interact somewhat with the game behind
>>748934243Sure, but (hopefully) nobody would assume that the Sims in that game were actually sentient, just like I wouldn't assume that my guests in Zoo Tycoon are sentient just because they're screaming, running, crying, and having negative thoughts about my T Rex named "Princess" chasing and eating them
>>748914674blue slowboards died cuz of covid. millions of normies being forced to stay inside for ~2 years paid by the govt flooded in after hearing how edgy 4chan is from Reddit/Youtube.
>Point my local instance of ChatGPT to a random RTS game I installed on my computer>Tell it to implement a '3rd person' camera mode and toggle that allows me to bring the camera down to a unit's shoulder so I can get a up close shot>A couple of prompts later and it has a working prototype>Tell it to add WASD movement>It sits there thinking for like 20 minutes and eventually shits out an updated prototype that allows me to move as I control the characterThis shit is fucking crazy bros I'm not even trolling, I'm a fucking AI jeet nowYou do need to pony up though, you'll burn through your 'free' amount of tokens real quick before you can do anything>t bought the monthly ChatGPT sub just for this experiment
>>748937306My point is sentience would lead to an increase in sales.
>>748937187NtaSo let me get this straight. >Two games have to be running>One game being the bottom layer aka the world and environment>The other game being the top layer that is the player basically.>The 2 layers together in whatever tool is being used is outputted and interacts with each other.So if this is really how it works. Wouldn't the combined output run into barriers you can't see from the top layer game?How the fuck are mechanics interacting?Like the gun quickly breaking wood while playing as a cod character in minecraft.Or the wither blowing up cars in GTA V?More importantly how many fucking data centers was made to produce this shit?
>>748937435Scumbags like you are why I can't afford PC parts.
>>748911961Please stop posting xitter """""mods""""" and pretending it's somehow a great leap forward. It's shitty halfass engagement bait.
>>748916201>LLMs don't create, they just reap off from the existing things.Do we truly create anything? Do "original" ideas spontaneous appear with no source of inspiration?
>>748937435what model do you need for this witchcraft? i've been using deepseek flash v4.1 which i reckon isn't nearly powerful enough, chinky models are always a gen behind
>>748912043Its kinda crazy to me that people think AI is actually artificial intelligence and not just an advanced computer parrot repeating info it compiles back at you.
>>748911961Trannies, leftist and communist are not gamers
>>748938593>its crazy how people think AI is AI
>>748938580I just used ChatGPT (Pro) although I'm pretty sure 99% of people are using Claude AI because he's the designated 'coding AI' that can handle all this shit a lot betterYou can try using the free version and see what that gets you but I feel like you're gonna get limited VERY quickly because how many prompts and steps shit like this requires
>>748938593Do you think really models can't improve or learn?
>>748913228I'll use itI'm just not payingThanks temp email
>>748911961Has anyone done anything with a game with pre-rendered graphics?
>>748914873You are genuinely retarded.
>>748937435Nobody here understands how fucking revolutionary AI is. Tasks that would've taken a human 5-10+ years can be accomplished within a weekend without any skills, experience, or input. Video games are just one piece of complicated software that can be hacked, imagine how easily it can fuck up bank systems, clinical hardware, personal devices, any public infrastructure running on software, etc.I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that the advent of LLMs are akin to the invention of a second nuclear bomb.
>>748913198it doesn't matter. local models are already better than most programmers and are getting better every day.good luck copyright raping something into submission that's open source, replicable, and can be trained on consumer gpus
>>748912043Perhaps it will be the other way around...
I'll decompile the NES Ninja Gaiden 2 and upload it on April Fools next year, making it seem like the Xbox 360 Ninja Gaiden 2. The outrage will make me belly laugh.
>>748939290I really dont understand how any software business survives this? Ones that are just our program does x. if anyone can copy any function only thing that matters is like markets everyone is here on x. otherwise nothing.
>>748939392by then there will be so many decomps that no one will care. we're already almost at that point. the moment AI can do something, it stops being of any interest within a week.
>>748939290> second nuclear bombthisand just like nuclear power it's misunderstood by the average human being because of gross misinformation and bad market practicesbecause AI adverts and AI videos and AI advertisements are annoying it means it's a technology with no use casebecause it's hemorrhaging money right now that means it will never be a technology worth a damni'm not even a 100% AI lover, i just think it has more benefits than drawbacks, but the people who will throw something away if it has even a touch of AI related to it are completely fucking delulu. it's going to be in everything you touch, everything you love, all the content you enjoy, every pipeline you work with in the future going forward. it's gonna be in schools, it's gonna be in universities, everything.medical technology, prosthetics, gene editing, cybersecurity, programming as a field, accounting, law, and many more, all of these things are going to have local models that will enhance the people who are great to be better and bring up people who are mediocre to become great.the main point is local models. the future business IMO that people should be investing in is not large data centers, but specialized local models trained on specific output for a specific task using small networks of consumer GPU's that can be rented out to run whatever your company needs.>>748939530it's the same thing that will help the arts survive itthe reality is that AI is a tool that's usefulness is based on the discretion and taste of the people using itthe reason why people hate AI slop so much right now is because it was immediately adopted by silicon valley tech types who were looking for the next big thing after web3 and NFT's explodedthey're all currently trying their get rich quick schemes with zero taste or human discretion. people who are art-minded and forward thinking are going to pick up the technology and do insane shit with it.
>>748915740>say you are hurt>[I am hurt]>oh my god
>>748913035>We are keeping all our products and files server-side to protect from IP infringementI never thought of this before, thanks for ruining my day
>>748912474So instead of just rippining resources and shit from one game and adding them to another so you only have to run one game like modders have been doing for decades you somehow think it's revolutionary to use this slipshod system that requires both games to be running simultaneously? Are you fucking retarded?
>>748939739>the reality is that AI is a tool that's usefulness is based on the discretion and taste of the people using itbut im talking function. Why would anyone pay for adobe photoshop if they can get any feature they want themselves? and edit it later?
>>748939793Stop trying to argue with jeets, they will never admit they are wrong because they'd lose izzat.
The amount of butthurt it generates among luddites makes me laugh a lot.
>>748911961ALL THE dream GAMES IN THE PALM OF YOUR HANDSFOR ONLY $20 THIS IS THE BEAST DEAL IN THE MARKETYOU DO HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION DON'T YOU ANON?
>>748940125@clod make a way to pay for your own inference
>>748912474kys
>>748939552>the moment AI can do something, it stops being of any interest within a week.I noticed that's how I look at all the AI decomps and mods etc. Just a year ago I wouldn't even be dreaming about some of the mods that are possible now in old games. Now when all that shit is available I don't care at all for some reason, seems like nobody does, and some of that stuff would make gaming press headlines before. Is it human nature to chase for things that you can't achieve just because they are hard/impossible?
>>748939804things like photoshop and large software like that will survive because their userbase have such an ingrained workflow already set up with them. it's rare someone cares about one specific feature from photoshop and pays the fee just for that. at that point, just torrent it or use any of the free versions like krita/GIMPi do think we'll see some accurate photoshop and windows-exclusive software reactions get ported to linux now though which is pretty coolit requires more inertia to get someone to swap software than just an alternative existing even if it's paid, because even if it works, is it proven + reliable?
>>748915992Indians literally do the same thing.
>>748940231yeah i underestimate familiarity as i like to try new things. there is a big chunk of income for people who dont even use the product they just dont unsub.
>>748916273KEK
>>748916247amogus....
>>748914674Haven't been on there in a while, how bad is it?
>>748911961only trannies seethe bout this
So what's going on in the heads of "artists" who have been losing more and more ground for the last 3+ years to the AI apocalypse? People posing as artists must truly be desperate if, even now, they are too low IQ to understand the utility of creating with AI tools. Let's reflect on the last few years...>AI can't draw hands!now it can>Uh, AI can't be unique and creativenow it can (if the prooompter isn't a jeet retard)>B-but, AI is soulless! People will recognize when something is AI! It's low quality.People cannot. Not only that, years of wokeslop selling hot has shown corpos that you can just churn out dogshit and sell millions. The main issue has been that they've been dumping hundreds of millions into their dogshit products. Now with AI, Sony can create a game like the Wolverine but with 1/10th the budget and sell the same amount of copies to rabid retards.You don't have to be demoralized. If anything, you should be using these tools to outmaneuver corpos with your own creations. Creations that are now only possible for you to make due to AI.
>>748941226You sound mentally ill
>>748941226they're constantly thinking about killing normal people for liking AI and such
>>748941250projecting again, tranny?
>>748912661Indians have to defend AI with their life because they 100000000000% believe that they will get all upper management jobs and then have the AI do 100% of the work while they do nothing all day but make posts on X about how "this is to be the Indian century" and get billions of dollars
>>748939804This doesn't happen. Because writing code is not enough, you need to understand how everything fits together and polish it into a product that you can maintain. You can't avoid thinking and doing hard work even now, not if you want to make something anyone else will bother using. Throwaway AI demos will be used to make 10 second clips and then forgotten forever.
>>748941226i posted something even remotely positive on my twitter account tied to my real identity and lost a third of my followersthese people are completely dissociated from reality.the only thing i said about it was that it's an extremely good tool for learning if you have the restraint to not ask it directly for answers.
What is to keep any software from being decompiled now? Couldn't you just take Photoshop, decompile it, remove all the online and DRM bullshit and have your own copy to use, modify, and distribute?
>>748941752Nothing, people are working on that as we speak
Rangeban India and the AI threads drop to 3 max
>>748911961>That's white phosphorus.
>>748911961Cool. Does that mean I can play Bloodbrone natively on PC now? Dl link?Oh and GTA6 will be playable day one on PC too right?
>>748912661Half of them are from seething retards who are pissed off that they can't gatekeep obscure coding shit anymore and the other half are from unironic unpaid shills trying to convince people that the lowest skill, laziest uses of the technology by idiots are somehow revolutionary.Also yes, both Anthropic and OpenAI are in deep financial shit, but frankly they're not even needed at this point for the proliferation of the tech anymore because China is all-in and open-source.
>>748941893> China is all-in and open source.yup, always super funny seeing people posting the financials of openai/anthropic as if it changes anythingthe genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back inside
So the AI does the code but no human understands the fuck the AI did and it only copies shit that has been done by human hands, it doesn't actual create its own innovative conventions?Also AI enemies are still stupid.
>>748941226What's with the blatant misanthropy in this post?
>>748939793>you somehow think it's revolutionaryWho the fuck said that? It’s a mod. That’s the conversation.
>>748913198this! two more weeks and you'll all see
>>748914219Models don't have souls and cannot be saved
>pick any game ever>add a skateboard that can grind on corners>add rollerskates that can wallride>add a BMX that can rotate vertically and horizontally when jumpinginstant GOTY material wherever you look
>>748942036AI jeets claimed its revolutionary
>>748941226And yet the only artists feeling the pinch are smut peddlers
>>748939290>the advent of LLMs are akin to the invention of a second nuclear bomb.All in the palm of whatever mentally ill tranny with enough vram to use it as well
>>748911961make something interesting. not just autismcraft + game.
I'd respect these >TECHNOLOGY BAD fags if they actually meant it. If they lived a self sufficient life in a mountain cabin like Uncle Ted. But they don't, they won't, they can't. They don't care how many millions of people got replaced by computers, factories, or fucking Microsoft Office. They only care about what affects them personally. With zero integrity, they should be disregarded entirely.
>>748941625>you need to understand how everything fits together and polish it into a product that you can maintainYou can even see this in many threads where people bitch about being unable to do relatively basic shit with claude code (because they don't actually understand what they're doing). You can get a LOT done with a frontier coding LLM and you can get it done very well, but you need to understand what you're asking for, how to ask, how to properly test it, how to give feedback and development advice/direction, and know enough to know when it might be bullshitting you or making a mistake.It's not a magic results machine for anything above very low complexity, it's just a huge force multiplier. Regular people who don't know shit about software will likely never just be able to say "Claude, make photoshop for me" and get Photoshop unless the damned thing gets so smart that it can just replace the function of an artist entirely (including taste). At that point the economy is either Star Trek or we're all dead.
>>748942247That would mean having an imagination beyond the anticipated. Best AIjeets could do is rip away thing from game 1 wholesale and jam it into game 2 and pray it works. Its amazing tech certainly, but not the "brand new immersive content for game" amazing. I'm no software engineer but I'm convinced its impossible through vibecode at the moment because its a novel problem with no existing solution.
>>748942247Do it yourself. For only 20 bucks you can make your dream mods.
>>748942393>you either suck corpo cock or you are literally doing economic terrorism!Grim
>>748942247I've already made several interesting things and even posted a few with proper disclaimers explaining where and how AI was used.No I'm not linking them here so some deranged faggot and try to chase me off the internet for doing something he disapproves of.
>>748942435Suppose I want it to make a new Elden Ring boss without blatantly ripping off from any games. Can it be done?
make a just cause game + some open world game.
>>748918982Trump is a retard but>what is an arms race
>>748942523This may come as a shock to you, but the LLM would give you a step-by-step breakdown of such a goal and whether or not it actually is feasible with your current skillset and hardware.
>>748942523>new custom model+texture+animationsNo, not good quality at least. Might be able to edit an existing one. Some model services could make something semi-decent but nothing of the same quality as the game. You will need to do this yourself or spend serious time iteratively improving resources with a specialized model to get what you want.>code and regulation.bin changesAbsolutely, and fairly trivial, but it will require extensive playtesting to handle edge cases for the scripts.
>>748911961They're not gamers. They're browns who can't afford AI subscriptions and troons who thought they could make a living as a WFH artist or codemonkey forever. Lmao so fucking delusional. The gravy train always ends. Feels good learning real skills.
>>748930613>get quite happy that someone is giga modding the game that i really like>uses AI to ease up a ton of the hard work and it works flawlessly>game runs on native godot engine and its such a huge upgrade in all regards>offer them my help for texture work, etc.>the community into that game just completely shuts any talk about it because there's AI involvement (decomp and it's against the rules due to AI)
>>748942769Cruelty Squad?
>>748942732Anon an AI subscription easily recoups a mildly competent third worlder's cost of living for less.
>>748914873>it's literally not>It's basically [a mod]Holy shit luddite brains are so fucked
>>748942814digimon world 1
Could this be used with shit like Dwarf Fortress? Could I merge it with Cataclysm: DDA?
>>748942838Oh I thought it was a native godot game from that, I misread I guess.Yeah, fuck 'em, sounds cool as hell.
>>748942769>wanted to get the Hellmode mod for Exanima>requires joining the goddamn discord>did it anyway because it was time for me to start using discord again >reading through the rules and see pic relatedI guess these aren't unreasonable conditions. I don't know the general temperament of people who post on the server in general since I barely use it myself, but it really would be a shame for people to shit on decent contributions simply because AI was involved.
>>748942393Trvke. They only care because it's their turn. There's tons of lazy fags in online spaces like 4chan who think they're special snowflake genius creator just waiting to emerge and become famous because they started grinding art or coding for a few years. Now they'll have to actually work if they want to make it.
>>748941809trvke. this is europe invasion levels of india posting
Implement AI only if it replaces jeets & SEAfags. Along with white middle management. Then I will embrace it.
>>748942981it's so fucking aggravating toolike yeah sure go fucking ahead, decipher the binary code so we can have a native running game and mod it the fuck up in less than a weekend to add a shit ton of impossible shit in iti'll wait, maybe when i die in 70+ i'll finally see a human-made native running niche game from fuckass 1999
>>748912751Lol faggot. Satan as real as any person you see on the street.Cope, fucking lying retard.
>>74894304670+ years*
>>748942981>muh permishuns>you le need to askNo, it's not reasonable, and it's not legally enforceable. If those fags want more restrictive licenses on their mods they can add those licenses. This kind of gaytarded shit has been around for 25+ years now and it's never been acceptable to anyone with a brain.
>>748912239You are literally on the internet, my nigga!
>>748942990>now they actually have to workbut making videogames as a living was always the plan. i accepted this, lol. that's why I started grinding these skills.
>>748943125You forgot one in 2000>ermm can we not use Photoshop?Everyone forgets that one.
>>748911961I am 110% behind decomps, but getting a game on PC is not enough. Controls, menus, and UI need to be modernized, there's a lot of garbage decomps that don't even do basic things like add an option to quit to desktop on the main menu. I'd do it myself, but contrary to popular belief, you still need to have some knowledge of programming to do that kind of stuff even with AI, and I'm too retarded for that shit.
>>748943049Damn son, you are going to overdose on that copium.Your shitty "artistic" days are over. Soon everyone will be worthless on the open market.You can always continue to draw for yourself tho.
>>748911961It is trendy to hate AI regardless of how it is utilized and any man-made work that goes into refining it and polishing it. Some literally think it is just typing in some prompts.Many are hypocrites since AI generations are sometimes used for placeholder assets until a more suitable man-made asset could get implemented yet they claim the games they love are all handmade.By the way; if people are really going to support talent, then they should demand that digital artists toss out their drawing tablets and go back to canvases and mixing their own paints.
>>748943149So how's it going?
>>748913664Just not the impressive kind. Mods that last and form fanbases around them generally overhauls/updates the host game without drastically altering it into a completely different game, i.e Skyrim still has its vanilla roots even after a thousand mods, or Rimworld gets revamped combat/anime races. Most of these videos are showcases are either content farm material or AI shilling rather than a dedicated passion project.
>>748943186the dude doing this Digimon World 1 is doing pretty much that, and runs the game on Godot Engine, straight up no loading screens and seamless transitions between zones, new shit, etc.the guy knows his shit
>>748943125Don't forget "ermm can we not use photographic cameras!?"
how long till some uses AI to make a patch for PC version of deadly premonition ??
>>748943232gradual improvement.
>>748943215There is so much art online that is blatantly AI-assisted that never gets any shit from these retards because they're under the delusion that all AI art looks like one-prompt unedited slop on xitter. It's hilarious when you find one and show it to them as an example of human art, then tell them that actually, no, I lied and this is AI, it's just done through a base sketch plus infill plus iteration plus a lora plus a bunch of other tunings with half an hour of manual edits to clean it up.
>>748943348because the most vocal shit stirrers are flood spaces with their one-prompt unedited slop
>>748943334That's what you said a decade ago. Lmao.
>>748943215>then they should demand that digital artists toss out their drawing tablets and go back to canvases and mixing their own paints.Cracks me up that this never gets brought up. I've been doing analog drawings for my entire life so I can appreciate the preference for it, but drawing on a tablet is so much fucking nicer sometimes. There's no mess involved, you can clean up your work with no issues, and materials are never holding you back. The virtue-signaling "purists" on /v/ probably don't even draw their shit on physical paper.
>>748943475yeah, and i'm also farther today than i've ever been. it is what it is.
>>748943252
>>748943475Literally no reason to bully the guy if he's just doing it at his own pace. The best thing about learning a skill is the meditative practice of actually doing it and seeing yourself gradually improve.
just tell me when i can prompt loli sex visual novels with headpatting
>>748943665There is literally no point in learning any skill that will lose its value in two to three months.
>>748943568So, you're saying this is the worst you'll ever be :)>>748943665>no reason to bully the guyThere's plenty reason. He wants to make a living off making vidya and has nothing to show for it after a decade except "slowly improving". Nigga everyone on this planet is slowly improving you don't get to expect people to give you money just for that. Stop being lazy. Either actually make something or do real work.
>>748943753then you fundamentally misunderstand the joy of learning a skill to begin with, anon. your mindset is that of a person who does not enjoy doing the thing in question and who only sees it as a means to an end. which is fine-- that's a part of everyday life that is necesary to keep civilization from collapsing. but you can't knock someone for doing something "pointless" because it is meaningful to them and their spiritual development. not unless you're an asshole of the worst sort, at least.
>>748943824>you don't get to expect people to give you money just for that.I don't though. I don't expect people to give me money for an unfinished project
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>>748943824Anon, you couldn't hope to make a more unreasonable post if you tried. Don't bring yourself down to the level of the anti-AI dumbfucks.
>>748943348Art has value because one human being is receiving a glimpse into the brain of another human being. Art is fundamentally a social dynamic, even if you personally do not meet and interact with the artist. Art is indulged as a simulacrum of various aspects of human interaction, too many to actually list, so when you have a machine algorithmically piece together something it's informed art resembles, the result is not art. No human mind was involved with the process. "More than the sum of its parts" hard-counters people who think their phone's auto-correct solved the philosophical quandary of human consciousness.>It's hilarious when you find one and show it to them as an example of human art, then tell them that actually, no, I lied and this is AIIt's mimicry. You can develop the most robust AI possible, where it analyzes artists at work and works out the "patterns" of everything down to brush strokes, but the dynamic I describe between artist and audience has not changed. AI does not have anything to say and never will because it's not alive and does not think. It can't have ideas any more than your calculator has any true concept of mathematics.
>>748943968You couldn't even hope to explain how it's unreasonable if you tried.
>>748943961this shit is way too funny
>>748943945>wants to make a living>doesn't expect money after a decade of workingRetard or troll. Maybe both.
>>748943969This argument will never hold water no many how many times you post it.
>>748911961I'd be interested if there was even the slightest chance of something interesting and original being made from it
>>748943961I actually love this. Paranoid troons will become even more miserable for no reason.
>>748943969>No human mind was involved with the processExcept for>the prompt>the entire workflow for the AI including the tuning>the manual edits>the (implied) approval of the human at the endand so on.You might as well say photography isn't art, it's a hell of a lot more automatic than making decent digital art with AI.
>>748944065Because?
>>748943961My sides. Best part is, if these AI coded outputs only replaced blue collar work then these same retards wouldn't care at all and say AI is the best thing ever. It's only because it's their money and fame at risk which is why they're having such a meltdown.
>>748943969i think about this a lot in terms of when creativity should begin and end with AI. imagine I create some 3D model with non-AI algorithms, right? And then I do some animation with it, or something, I dunno. It's considered art. However, if I do even less base work with AI and more manual work on it later on, bringing it manually to completion, it's considered AI slop. The whole argument is super weird because art is a very loose, subjective definition. I always thought a healthier thing is stop defining what le art is and just using AI as a tool.
>>748944007>doing something for your own benefit is bad because of arbitrary reasons that solely depend on the personal values of the individualThis is an unreasonable way of viewing human activity.
>>748944130don't forget the models and samplers and loras and scheduler
>>748944130These are adding things that weren't part of the discussion in the first place. Currently AI "art" arguments are more equivalent to someone taking a snapshot of something and then going>This is actually equivalent to a painting... no, SUPERIOR to it!
>>748944134This post >>748944130 sums it up.
>>748944167There are many reasons why stuff on Etsy made by human hands usually has more perceived value than a like product manufactured and sold in Walmart. I'll let you figure out why that might be.
>>748944060I haven't released anything and I returned to solodev within the last 3 years, dude. there is no finished work to put on the market to judge me by. yes i deserve criticism for not releasing anything yet. why? because I'm in this for the long haul. and for some dipshit reason i believe you just might like my designs. i'm just another dude.
>>748913093actual retard
>>748944302Lol anon... Man. I don't even know where to begin with this. Is it even worth trying to show this nigga the error of their ways?
>>748944185That's a reasonable way of viewing a hobby activity, if you bring in commercial activity then the standards become completely different. Slowly improving is NOT a business model. And standing up for (aka coddling) retarded mindsets like that is not helping anyone in the way you think it is. Just stop trying hide behind faulty reason and logic because your pity got activated.
Is AI good enough to make a mod that fixes the dogshit Red Orchestra 2 Bots?
>>748944357Hmmm... yeah, alright. Fair enough.
>>748944396honestly, i wonder the same and im sure it'll be a huge improvement but i wanna see how fucking crazy it'll be for things like Arma 3like removing all the janky shit, replace the gunhandling with EFT or Arma Reforger, etc.
>>748944396yeah
>>748943157ThisPhotoshop originally got the same kind of backlash as AI because it's not real art if you don't draw it by hand on a canvas
says a lot about art when its supposed worth just boils down to "how much did this other person suffer and waste time making it" or some shit about soul which they can't even quantify
mass psychosis arouns AI is terrifying. i don't think there's ever been anything like this. i thought covid was bad but this is on another level. people are worshipping this thing like a god. everywhere i look someone is trying to sell me something AI related. the entire internet feels like walking around a digital mall being hounded by those booth salesmen. im terrified for the future at this point. i think ai actually will end society, not because it's superintelligent but because people are just that retarded.
>>748944354There are people who will go out of their way to hunt down and spend lots of money on a hat made by someone native to some ancestral region where the hat was first designed, who painstakingly picked the reeds themselves, and then sat down and produced the hat by hand. There are also people who have no interest in any of that, pick up a similar hat from a gas station (with the hat in question being produced in a factory) and view the act of hat-wearing more pragmatically. Neither view is illegitimate. Both hats will probably keep the sun off their head to the same degree. What's actually illegitimate is if the gas station hat guy were to tell the guy with the hand-crafted hat "mine is identical to yours" or, worse, "mine is superior to yours." That's not a sentiment most people would agree with. When you begin to understand why that is, you will understand why no one takes the notion AI will replace artists seriously. Even at its most cynical, where "art" is merely a means to an end for wealthy entities to monetize aesthetics somehow, you have not refuted >>748943969 and that will become obvious when customers stop showing up. That's when attempts to fudge things further start showing up, like companies trading between themselves while trying to totally butt out the idea of consumers or ordinary people to begin with, and well, that's when techbros will probably start hanging from lamp posts. But we have a ways to go before then.
>>748944524I think it really does boil down to them desperately needing to believe that their contributions or work is more special than it really is. It's an incredibly childish and solipsistic worldview.
>>748944302>I sculpted <licensed character> out of clay and im going to mark it up at 3x value because a HUMAN made it this is REAL HUMAN art so i deserve MORE MONEYnah indie scene has taught me they wish they were all making money like the big dogs. these sovlful core values you dream of don't exist in the real world where its profit or die
>>748944524>some shit about soul which they can't even quantify- things actually uttered by jewish bolsheviks before kicking as many white people as possible into a mass grave
>>748944561>i don't think there's ever been anything like thisahistorical retard
>>748944310You haven't released anything because you can't make anything and don't know how to finish projects. You cope with "skill improvement" because it's easier to practice skills A-Z that were already solved by others than to actually do some real work. Your workflow is probably spending most of the time watching tutorials instead of creating. That "long haul" mindset is the perfect excuse for your brain too.
>>748944608If we are judging sides based off its biggest retards, AI has the entirety of India. That's not a fight you want to initiate.
>>748943271Cameras were a mistake though
>>748944561>try to show someone this awesome thing you discovered>they interpret it as you trying to harm themMany such cases
>>748944652wow how creativenevermind the fact a $20 claude sub is too expensive for browns and the people actually generating funding and training the slop are, shocker, your fellow based white aryan chads
>>748944573Anon, your concept of aesthetics is nonexistent and your concept value relies on metadata about the "artwork" in question. I will not address any of the points you made specifically becaue it's more work than it's worth and I am sure nothing will convince you otherwise. Your post is the kind of thing I would outsource to an LLM to deal with.
>>748944610go ahead and quantify the soul for me bro. you know, this thing that's confounded the greatest philosophers for centuries but is surely second nature to the random anon here. or are they also a spook and only you know the secrets to the universe, consciousness and god-gifted cosmic beauty?
Can someone please make Shadow Tower playable at above 25 fps? I remember forcing it higher in an emulator just made it uncomfortable to play and I've read that it also breaks some things, though I'm not sure what.
>>748916737>Third, we systematically manipulated whether the button that is promised to provide relief actually serves to remove the vectorOkay. Not even going to get complained when the robots put me in the fleshwall. Much.
>>748944737>Your post is the kind of thing I would outsource to an LLM to deal with.You would do this because you're not equipped to argue the point, not because you have some rhetorical ace up your sleeve. Who are you kidding?
>>748944753you dont have a position and dont have an argument and confused yourself
>>748944896you can just own me with facts and logic instead of being snide and dismissive but its a fault of mine to expect an anon to be good at anything
>>748915973>>748916543>>748917250>>748939262>>748942831Disingenuous jeets.
>>748944635only partially true. tutorials aren't pedagogical in the way you need it to be. i've made assets, audio, novel small systems. doing reps is how i got anywhere, but reps aren't composition. ive proven to myself i can make things but the criticism about not finishing lands because it is self-evident: the game isn't done. the tutorial hell thing has been averted, the "make an actual game" thing is what i'm doing at the moment. i'm not trying to justify myself with that long-term mentality, but it's also why I take my time and sit on things for days, if not weeks. so that's also something i need to fix. fuck
>>748944827I agree, I do not have the rhetorical equipment necessary to convince someone with ass-backwards concepts of reality to change their bizarre worldview. As such, I would request such equipment from the LLM, because unlike you, the LLM is well-equipped to help the ill-equipped solve difficult problems.
>>748943969>Art has value therefore the pencil does not have anything to say and never will because it's not alive and does not think and we should keep being mad about it and making retarded reddit arguments>I am so smart btw
>>748944917>the soul doesnt exist and is laughable when used in the context of discussing why art has inherent meaning that cant be replicated by a mindless tool and you cant quantify a soul but also discussing a soul has confounded philosophers for ages despite it being laughable and meaning nothing so therefore the soul is simultaneously meaningless yet has so much meaning you would be arrogant to try explaining it hahahaha
>>748944975>so that's also something i need to fix. fuckI feel ya. I'm literally ITT shitposting as a way to avoid having to do anything that would move my life forward. It's a conundrum.
Screeching now is pointless. This is only the beginning. Remember, it's barely even been 4 years since this all began. Before that AI was limited to bullshit like ESRGAN. 4 years. Just imagine what this will look like in 2030. 2034. 2038.
>>748945047You could have just said you don't know but you choose to believe in it instead and that would've lent more credence to your outlook. Christ lmao.
>>748945078>Just imagine what this will look like in 2030. 2034. 2038.Lawsuits. You don't really think things will only continue getting better?
>>748915662that doesn't mean he's wrong btw. just that gamers are retarded
>>748944573AI art didn't come from a factory and sent to a gas station tho. It came from my brain using my computer. Cope and seethe.
>>748944991>I do not have the rhetorical equipmentAt this point you don't have any, you're just some kind of arrogant moron seething on an imageboard over this basic assertion that things like art or craftsmanship actually exist. I'd love to see you try to interpret a book, it's probably like one of those old videos of Chris-chan in public trying to figure out how women work.
>>748944975I am literally telling you that long haul mentality is what's fucking you up. Instead of>I'll keep improving until I'm good enough to make the thing I want one dayYou have to switch to >I'd rather fucking die than not make the thing I always wanted to makeThis mindset + minimum several months of sleepless nights + pushing through lots mental anguish = FinishI did it during covid. You can do it if you start today.
>>748945129It has been repeatedly ruled that AI training is fair use. The thing the companies keep losing on is having unambiguously copyrighted characters in the output, that's the reason Sona got its shit pushed in because it would do Disney characters and you don't fuck with the mouse.
>>748945132AI creating an image because you prompted it is no more "your brain" producing "art" than if you instructed a man to fuck your wife and called the resulting pregnancy "your son."
>>748945245You're wrong and retarded.
>>748945220>It has been repeatedly ruled that AI training is fair use.They'll just go after things like OP instead, the applications of it
How many more years will I have to wait until AI can provide something that will benefit me personally?
>>748945274two weeks
imagine being some troon that spent a decade decompilingn some game less than 100 people will play, then AI comes along and does it less than a month.
>>748911961Could someone explain how these are something more than flavor of the month stuff?
>>748945057lets try to be less about entertaining whims and more about intention then
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>>748912043oh wow so that's what coming. Fucking terrifying.
>>748945047You are replying to a schizo but I'm going to help out everyone who is confused about the matter: Soul in any context doesn't exist. It's what people say when they don't know why they like something. It's easy then to say AI is soulless because of the negative optics; it's pro-corpo, pro-indian and simplistic to use, thus 'cheating'
>>748945263That will then piss off all the companies actually using the models for work because with current techniques you have two choices:>super strict classifiers like how the original release of Fable 5 did for bio and machine learning, which inevitably trigger on half the shit you ask it>intentionally lobotomizing its ability to manipulate code in certain copyrighted ways, which WILL severely affect its intelligence at everything elseso it's the copyright holders versus not just the labs but all the lab's customers who are like 2/3rds of the economy at this point.
>>748945196Pretty ironic post, kek Frankly, I'd like to see some examples of your own "art or craftsmanship". Surely you have made something meaningfully impressive enough to give you the right to look down on people who generate AI images. Can't imagine how someone who doesn't make art of their own would get the gall to come up with such a detailed narrative about the value of artwork otherwise.
>>748945274Depends. If you're still in your third world shithole then maybe never. If first world, you'll have to learn some real skills and work hard (finally)
>>748944664you sound like a crypto scammer
>>748945274It's not for you, it's for me.
>>748945502>you'll have to learn some real skills and work hardlike?
>>748945502AI must be terrifying to third worlders.
>>748945129>Lawsuitsyeah, such as porn faceswaps and AI use on political content
>>748945574>AI must be terrifying to third worlders.and yet the entry level jobs went to us indians
>>748945608You don't have a job, leftytroon.
>>748945558kek this, life is unfair since AI is just for the people that like it
AI must be a blessing to indians
>>748915319When you see link suffering from poison status in zelda do you think the character on your screen "link" is actually experiencing the effects and pain of poison or is that just a convincing representation of poison? You fucking hysterical retards.
>>748945574but AI is taking away first world people's jobs
>>748911961Can the one jeet spamming this nonstop be banned already.
>>748945768The first world has intelligent people who will figure that out. There's going to be no industries that take advantage of the third world soon though. Outsourcing and producing worthless crap is like the prime way the turd world makes money and it won't be viable in the future that's coming.
>>748915319they are philosophical zombies, thus it will never be real no matter how convincing the output is to n spectator
>>748945371"The soul" as a philosophical concept and the sovl meme are not the same but even then you aren't correct, there are absolutely dynamics that separate human creations in the way "sovl" posts insist. We can observe a million video game specific examples. Compare something passionate created by a small team of guys with an artistic vision vs. some later reboot or sequel made to cynically rob people of microtransactions through their phone. >>748945458>Surely you have made something meaningfully impressive enough to give you the right to look down on people who generate AI imagesI have. Like most people with a creative impulse I didn't do it just once. I've created plenty of failures that sucked just as I've created things people would recognize and are deemed good by some subjective metric. This is part of the artistic process people often talk, getting from "this sucks" to "someone might feasibly like this." AI doesn't have such a road because, once again, it's not truly thinking.That's a private chuckle I get to enjoy however. I won't volunteer stuff I've made to you. You're a bit of a fag and I think you'll only escape that faggotry by putting down the proompting device and making shit by hand. You won't, pussy.
>>748915319>if something is creating output that suggests it is suffering, at how advanced of a level of the physical substrate from where these calculations are leading to this kind of output, do we goreplace "suffering" with "using electricity"yep, my fridge is suffering
>>748945816This anon gets it. For vidya, people pay third world grind services to maintain any live service game since customers value their time and freedom of choice. Those same customers can soon just use an AI bot to maintain their accounts instead, putting all those poor dudes out of business.
>>748911961people have fuck-ass idea what this just brought, and only parrot about AI bad like they're screaming their own artificial pronouns
>>748945825See >>748945749
>>748945816>There's going to be no industries that take advantage of the third world soon
>>748945883so exactly like the nervous system and neurons in our brain?
>>748945201I agree with the bottom line of your message. and if you have experience then what can I say except thanks for the back and forth tonight.
>>748946025when you're so fucked up you're arguing fridges have feelings because they use electricity
>>748945847>You're a bit of a fag and I think you'll only escape that faggotry by putting down the proompting device and making shit by hand. You won't, pussy.Unlike you, I'm not a disingenous faggot. Here's a drawing I've been sitting on for ages because it's a shit ton of hard work and I am rather unsatisfied with my current progress. Thinking about starting over unless I can salvage it.
>>748945816true but only if AI bubble pops here because robotics + AI turns out to be too costly, meaning cheap physical labor/goods/organs in third world countries will still be valuable
>>748946073you reduced it to electricitypain is transmitted through electricityyou're also the one who brought fridges into it
>>748946089nice
>>748946094There is a 0% chance China won't be ruling over manufacturing with robots. I don't give a fuck about the bubble.>>748946006>people in the west won't have money to piss away on stupid turd world shit because they no longer have jobs>AI will be taking most of the turd world's jobs too
>>748946089Here's another one that I'm more satisfied with, but have been likewise avoiding because of how demanding it is.
>>748918593Why is he eddy?!
>>748946121Peeling this anons kneecaps off (I am not him and pain is just electricity so I can't really prove he's feeling pain and could just be screaming as an act)
>>748915319You see this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOvLL8ok8IIf you made this a million times bigger, you could encode a prompt into marbles and get the exact same output as you would prompting chatgpt. Does that make the marbles conscious?
>>748946121do you not see how retarded you're being right now?
