>So if you ever had an online console, and then deleted a recent update for a game, and then took the console somewhere offline later, and tried playing that game you own on a physical cart, get lost kid.>You basically do not own that physical game anymore because we know there is an update available somewhere online, even though you’re offline right now and don’t care about that update existingThis is the most anti consumer thing that any company has ever done, everyone should be shitting on shitendo for this
>>748917559Nintendo seems to have decided for us that they will decide how and when we can use those physical games, and if you’re not following the exact rules as they’ve laid them out, your physical game will not work, or you can completely reformat your console to get around this restriction they created, and lose all your save files in the process.
What's Nintendo? Is that like a game?
>>748917559I'm somewhere without Internet besides cell service right now and I just tried playing my switch 2 emulators and it literally will not let me boot into them without connecting to the internet fuck niggertendo
>>748917649A cult that rapes their cultists fans and they praise him for it
>>748917649It's like disney but for even bigger retards.
>>748917559>DRM machine acting like a DRM machineWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWBe glad that the at least the forced firmware updates aren't broken. The 3DS had a firmware update that straight up made OOT 3D broken for 2 years.
>update game>problem solvedyou don't want solutions, you just want to whine like a woman
>>748917802So we just have to accept this as fine because Nintendo says so?
Update then retard.
>>748917802lol cucksucking tendies are here, welcome
>>748917861>>748917868This, just update ratards>update breaks somethingDo it anyway
>>748917861>press start? huuuuu low blow why do you accept this ?what a shitty larping thread.
>>748917802>>748917868what if you bring your Switch 2 outside or on a flight and dont have internet?oh yeah i forgot you tendie neckbeards losers never leave your house
>>748917802>>748917868>>748917906And what’s gonna happen when shitendo goes bankrupt and their servers die retards?
>>748917802Permaban all famitsufags. Every last one.
>>748917559the last consoles you actually owned your games was in the ps2 generationeverything past that has been drm slop machines. just get a pc and pirate everything.
>>748917979Trvke
This was like a thing since the ps4 era where some games absolutely required the latest firmware to launch. Granted, it was to prevent pirates but still.Maybe this was also a thing during 7th gen, but if it was, it was probably for multiplayer games that released near the end of the generation.
>>748917979This is incorrect. You can play any disc PS4/5 game you own without downloading an update. You can simply cancel the update and boot the game anyway.In the future this is going to be a huge frustration with game preservation. If those servers aren’t available you’ll have no choice but to reformat your console and lose your save files to play that physical cart again.
>>748917559Firmware updates are included on the switch carts, so you can still update your console offline. Non issue. Only brown pirates and false flagging snoys think this matters. Kys.
>>748917559OOOOOOHHHHHH TENDIES!!!!AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>748918051>This was like a thing since the ps4 eraAckshully it's been a concept since the PSP.
>>748918095>Firmware updates are included on the switch cartsare you actually retarded? Bonanza came out 1 year ago how the fuck would it have the newest firmware on the cart?
>update switch>problem solved
>>748918201>online DRM is ok when Nintendo does itcurious...
So if Nintendo's servers go offline, physical games are going to be completely useless? What even is the point of physical games, then? They're once again robbing us of the possibility of game preservation.Shitendo is truly the most evil company in the entire world, they deserve all the hate they receive
>>748918252>What even is the point of physical gamesSo you can resell themYeah, physicaltards are poorfags, we already knew that
>>748918240How is it DRM if I can still play offline retard
>>748917559You can do a system restore and it will let you play the 1.0 version again. Once you update the software, it doesn’t let you downgrade for some reason, even if you delete the game. It’s definitely annoying, but this doesn’t affect game preservation in any noticeable way. Once the servers are gone, just do a factory reset and pop in your cartridges and hope that the games you bought are stable enough on their 1.0 version. Most Nintendo games usually are from my experience.
>>748918252>So if Nintendo's servers go offline, physical games are going to be completely useless?yes, consoles are physical DRM machines
What’s the issue? Once the final update is released you’ll be able to play it perfectly fine offline forever. Once again whipping up a nothingburger. It’s not like he’ll be without internet from now until the time the switch 2 servers go down. Literally just making shit up to get mad at because Snoy has been dropping the ball nonstop
>>748917802>>748917868>>748917906>>748918095>>748918201If a person buys a physical switch game and it’s on the cartridge, they should have the right to play that game offline if they wish to. If my storage is full and I want to delete those multiplayer maps they added to the game later, I should be able to do that and still play that game I own on a cart. That’s one of the main appeals of physical games to me, that I own that game and can do what I want with it.
works on my machine
>>748917559>This is the most anti consumer thing that any company has ever doneHuh? This has been done since the PS3/360/Wii generation. How the fuck was your coma?
>>748918252The only way im aware of is to do a factory reset on your switch. I forget what happens to your save files.
>>748918325>game forces you to go online to download the firmware or you cant play>how does this affect me when im offlineARE YOU RETARDED OR PRETENDING?
>>748918182Because they put it there? Duh
>>748918252>So if Nintendo's servers go offline, physical games are going to be completely useless?No. Just do a console reset and you can play your unpatched version. You’ll lose your saves but whatever. It’s been this way since the first switch. OP is some baiting snoy posting half truths.
>>748918364
>>748918410>i was pretending to be retarded
>>748918252>So if Nintendo's servers go offline, physical games are going to be completely useless? What even is the point of physical games, then? Right, there is no point and there hasn't been a point for at least a decade now. But some stupid goyim like having a "videogame shelf" and showing off the games they "own" as some sort of weird shrine to consumerism. They're just giving these "people" what they want.
>>748918346>you’ll be able to play it perfectly fine offline foreverno you will be able to play it offline until the next mandatory firmware update you stupid tendie faggot
>>748917559>So if you ever had an online console, and then deleted a recent update for a gamewhy the hell would you delete an update?
>>748917559I remember a month ago some faggot derailing a thread about steam being the anti christ because it had no option to disable auto updates. Then he went on to fellate nintendo being better for consumers because they dont do that. Wonder if that anon is itt.
>>748918549What happens when they stop releasing firmware updates you lobotomized Snoy piece of shit? Oh wow look at that ALL THE PHYSICAL GAMES WORK OFFLINE FOREVER. Fuck you and your lies
>>748918483>I’m going to speak about something that I clearly don’t know anything about PC trannies are so obvious. YOU CAN FACTORY RESET AND STILL PLAY YOUR CART COMPLETELY OFFLINE. OP IS LITERALLY POSTING MISINFORMATION.
>>748918616Tendies are just that pathetic
>>748918672>YOU CAN FACTORY RESET AND STILL PLAY YOUR CART COMPLETELY OFFLINEbecause you already updated the firmware you stupid faggot, factory reset doesn't change the firmware
>>748918590The FE3H update removed an entire voice actor and censored shit
>>748917559This isn't news OPit worked this way on Wii U, if you update a game you cannot play without it anymore
>>748918619ive used the switch a very long time. i have not encountered these mandatory firmware updates that require a download. The game will just pester you to download a system update every time you launch it though. if you msclick one you are stuck with the updated version. im willing to hear about these games that wont work without a firmware update through download. which ones are they?
>>748918616Not him but considering he can just factory reset his console, go offline and play his cartridges with zero internet, he still owns his games and you don’t. Kek it’s so obvious these threads are just made by steam trannies that don’t own a switch and haven’t owned a physical game in 20 years.
>>748918829So it’s okay when shitendo does it?
look at this thread, tendies defending Nintendo to death at all cost, even while they are getting raped by Nintendo
>>748918619>Snoymindraped and gaped
>>748918252Hey, just for conversations sake, why don't you boot up your PS3, unplug the ethernet cable, and launch Bionic Commando Rearmed 2, a game released 15 years ago?
>>748918590Usually if you want to abuse glitches like the infinite item dupes in Tears of the Kingdom.
>>748918863It would probably be a mess if you saved your game files to the updated version, then deleted your update, bricking your saves, until you potentially reupdated it.Might as well just block the option to just not let that happen
>>748917559The update for the game to update and play is actually on the cartridge, retards. Old """news""""
>>748918751Firmware updates are literally on the carts themselves. You can literally update your console offline with them. Only pirate trannies care about this. The switch 2 is still the most offlline friendly console and the only one that has some long term preservation options. Servers die? Factory reset and play your carts. Need a new firmware update on the console itself? Use your most recent game (ideally a game a bought at the end of the switch 2’s lifecycle that includes the final firmware update on it.) They’re annoyances but they ultimately don’t get in the way of long term preservation. It’s so obvious that the scare mongering retards in these threads don’t own a switch, don’t buy physical copies and don’t know anything about how Nintendo consoles work. This has been an issue since at least the 3DS. But there are very easy ways around it. None requiring internet.
the only time this circumstance is ever relevant is if you delete an update to a game and THEN tried to start the physical version. of fucking course it requires the update you deleted to be played.if a system update is queued it won't force you to quit playing, you update at your leisure.people who stay up to date (ie who aren't retarded) will never encounter this
>>748918863I mean sure, Nintendo is killing it right now with their console, so if they're doing something it's okay IMHO
>>748917559Hmm i wonder why nintendo is wary of any possible security vulnerabilies in their current console?
>>748919158>The switch 2 is still the most offlline friendly console and the only one that has some long term preservation optionsimagine saying this when GKC exists... you are literally mindraped by Nintendo you colossal cuck
>>748919158>Servers die? Factory reset and play your cartsbut my GKC needs the servers to work...
>>748919158Tendies have to be brain dead to write this and click post as if it was okay
>same board that shits on snoy nuking physical games are now defending thisThis board truly is bingtendo and valve drone central mecca huh.
>>748919339its more sad when you realize that guy is probably in his 30s
>>748919250Key cards are part of that equation IMHO, after you have the game installed it will play offline. Just for a fun fact, did you know you can actually transfer your installed games between consoles wirelessly without internet as well? just consider how ahead of its time that is for preservation.
>>748919250>>748919328I don’t buy fag cards so I’m not affected by this. Good job moving goalposts though. First party switch 2 games can still be played offline, even if Nintendo’s servers die. A simple factory reset gets around the issue OP is scare mongering about. Anyone else still going on about this is just pretending to be retarded for (You)s.
>>748919158>It’s so obvious that the scare mongering retards in these threadsare all Nintendeen, I guarantee it
>>748919339Everything he said is factual though. He’s the only one not false flagging and exaggerating some none issue. You Steam cultists are way more pathetic and dishonest.
>>748919520you went from all games to Nintendo first party games and you clame that i moved the goalpost? lol pathetic
>>748918051>since the ps4Since the PSP and Wii era.
The trolling meta these days is to pretend that you're a really autistic Nintendo fanboy, even though we already have plenty of those without this faggot butting in.
>>748919610>talking about yourself in the 3rd persontake your medication anon
>>748919352The endgame is keeping the firmware as old as possible for piracy so I don't think physical games are really a factor for anyone.
Nintendo can't do no wrong, if you disagree you are a Snoy tranny
>>748919158Hoo-boy, this post right here
>>748919352No one is defending it as much as they’re pointing out that it’s a very minor issue that can be resolved by resetting your console. Which takes like one minute to do. Key cards are worth getting angry and shitting on Nintendo over. This is just people pretending to be retarded and baiting. Probably snoys or steamies would be my guess.
By the way, the faggot OP hasn't posted a source and the pic is questionable at best. Post the source or admit you lied and die.
>>748919158>just factory reset your console, bro!
>>748920019I know right. Imagine a post actually telling the truth about how things work instead of lying and spinning half truths for console war purposes. Browns like you have absolutely ruined this place.
>>748919158kill yourself NOW
>>748920208It looks like Famiboards
>>748920208OP isn’t lying in the sense that once you update your game you can’t go back to the previous software version. This has been a known issue since at least the 3DS. What him and his discord tranny pals are lying about is about it being permanent. If you ever run into this issue and don’t have internet to update your game, go into settings, reset your console and you can play your 1.0 version again. It takes a few seconds to do. At most you lose your saves. It sucks but it’s not world breaking either.
>>748920390>he's the famitsu thread retard that got BTFO'dHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>748920263I mean, if Valve went tits up tomorrow and I had to go to a bunker with nothing but my PC and hard drive full of games, I could play my hard drive full of games without factory resetting my PC. If I had a laptop or second pc with me, I could even transfer those games without depending on the internet. Food for thought.
>>748920390You obviously didn’t actually factory reset your console you baiting tranny.
>>748917967How would the Switch 2 know that it needs to update if it cannot connect to the internet in the first place?
>>748920390Fakest shit I ever seen>Mario Kart World hovering out of the slot>not a single game icon on the dashboard
>be playing on pc>steam says i need to update>change dll>launch game>just werksAlternatively>play game off of steam>just werksI pity thr consolekek.
>even though it was programmed to work on this firmware it just has to work on old version or somethingmost new software requires a reasonably updated operating system.
>>748919482>after you have the game installedSo.... it still requires internet. :/
>>748920643Nintendo's forced updates are tied to an effort to combat piracy after the Switch 1 was blown wide open rather early in its lifespan. There are multiple people ITT that bought a Switch 2 if only for piracy down the line and they turboshit their pants if Nintendo tries to cover for itself like any profit seeking company would.
tendies please refute him... if you canhttps://famiboards.com/threads/i-just-tried-playing-one-of-my-physical-switch-2-games-offline-and-i-was-shocked-to-see-how-aggressively-the-console-doesn%E2%80%99t-want-you-to-do-this.18881/
Nintendo won.
>>748920710It's a game key card, after the game is initially downloaded it functions like a physical game. Including the ability to shut off internet and keep playing.
>>748920861the most raped userbase award?
>>748920839>linking to a snoy boardWhat's your goal?
>>748917559It must be for certain games because I tested it with Sonic CrossWorlds and I could play without the system update.
>>748920928>until an update gets pushed and you can't play it ever again without downloading the latest updateI finished your post for you, anon
Is there any point on buying a Nintendo console nowadays when this is the consumer base? You are just going to get raped in the ass in the long run while everyone around you starts cheering for more.
>>748920793>There are multiple people ITT that bought a Switch 2 if only for piracy down the line and they turboshit their pants if Nintendo tries to cover for itself like any profit seeking company wouldThat’s what this is ultimately about. Poorfags throwing a tantrum as usual. Since switch carts include console firmware updates on them, there’s no way anyone can truly get locked out of their game without internet (key cards aside.) Pirates are just seething knowing that they can’t stay on the earliest console firmware if they want to play their newer carts. It’s just /v/ showing how poor and brown they are like they do every single day. What a retarded thread.
>>748921084You don't have to install updates to your games though. You can disable the auto updates in the system menu.
>>748921114Yes, there's no reason to not buy a nintendo console once it gets hacked. I did it for the Switch 1 and I received a god tier experience. Same shit will happen with the Switch 2Cancer practices like this ONLY affects buyniggers and OFWags, CFWchads are the only ones that truly own their system.
>ummm have you thought about Nintendo's profits you fucking selfish chuds???What broke Nintendofags' hearts this badly to turn them into this
>>748921115Tendies are the first and loudest group to spout PHYSICAL IS TRUE OWNERSHIP, but when Nintendo shows you that they still ultimately have control over how these games are able to be played you run and hide behind muh poorfags. You behave like women.
>>748921115Nice schizo ramble. Why did pirates buy games? Why did pirates turn off airplane mode? The switch 1 didn't even receive softmods that relied of specific firmwares, it was all about the RCM exploit and hardmods that were literally unpatchable.
>>748917559so what is this update
>>748917626>or you can completely reformat your console to get around this restriction they created, and lose all your save files in the processThread ended here. Anyone below this post is pretending to be retarded.
>>748921357something PS3/360 had since 2006.
>>748921114Only if you’re a retarded manchild that likes to be raped and gaped
They already did that with Pikmin 3, once they did the initial fix for it on Switch 2, the OS was updated to block you from playing it without that update.
>deleted a recent update for a gameNOTHINGBURGUER THE SAVE DATA IS SAVED WITH A NEWER VERSION SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DELETE THE SAVE DATA YOU NEED TO UPDATE
>>748921115why are you like this? do you own Nintendo stock? what makes a person suck so much corpo cock for free?
>just update the console >extreme melty
>>748921357A firmware update so not even related to the game cart. It's for the system.
>>748917559Literally what reason is there to not update your console?
Someone make the exact same thread, but PS5 related next month please.
>>748921673because i dont want to?
>>748921673because it's my system and I want to my game right the fuck now
>>748917559You guys really have to reach for issues with Nintendo lol. Maybe take the gun out of your mouth first before you try talking about others' issues.
>>748921747Okay. So don't do it
>>748921790bit then i can't play my game that i bought...
>>748921747>>748921773Why?
>>748921773>my systemYou don't own your switch 2>and I want to my game right the fuck nowIt's not your gameShould have read the EULA retard
>>748921856why do you care what i want to do with my console??
>>748921783If it's not a big deal they wouldn't prevent you from playing your game.
>>748921783 if you update a physical game that's typically playable without an update, you can never play it again without the update. This means that even if you delete your savegame, all update data, and backups, the game will no longer be playable offline. I think this is outrageous, and Nintendo absolutely must fix this with an update. Apparently, there's still a record in the system indicating a newer version.
>>748921871You tells um! Massuh Nintenduh sho knows what's is best fo us slaveses!
>>748918182Buy a game made after Bananza then retard. Newer cart=newer firmware update included on it.
>>748920552It knows because the physical medium is tagged as needing a newer firmware release. It just doesn't actually HAVE that firmware release on the medium - and needs, nay - demands, an internet connection to download it.
>>748917559The big problem with physical Switch games is that Nintendo has the ability to revoke their license online.The real advantage of physical games is that the license is physically with you (in the object you’re holding), so the only way it can be revoked is if the police seize your game...But Nintendo has a unique ID for every physical game. If you play a physical game and then connect your Switch to the Internet, Nintendo will receive information about which unique game copy ran on your hardware. And here’s the interesting part: if that version has had its license revoked, Nintendo will simply LOCK your Switch.
How does this affect emulation? I have an OG switch I was thinking of hacking
>>748921871No wonder they rightfully call tendies a brainwashed cultImagine writing this
>>748918619>just wait until the console reaches end of life to play offline goy
>>748922223>Nintendo will simply LOCK your Switch.I know they maintain the legal right to do so, but I'm pretty sure they only ban your console from the eshop and online play. They don't brick your console.
>>748921990The cartridges aren't rewritable and can't brnmodified in any way, you fucking nitwit. If they were, why wouldn't save data just be on the carts themselves? Quit being a retarded liar
>>748917559I cant wait t see these greedy fucks eating the dirt they force everyone to eat. Fuck Nintendo.
>>748921390Are you claiming it's "okay" because you can just wipe your console? Please elaborate
>>748922379how does it feel to make the most retarded post in this thread?
>>748917559>NewsThe Switch (not 2) already worked like this though? How the fuck is this news?
>>748922562>They don't brick your consoleYou literally can't do anything with the console, unless you have games already downloaded on it.
>>748917559>Shitendo_64I'm just curious, how big is your screenshot folder about a certain company that you hate so much, my dear Brazilian "friend"?
>>748922912yes,that is literally the fix and tendies think thats ok
>>748922925salright
>>748917559Hasn't that always been a thing?
If you have internet to shitpost about this, you have internet to update your console, simple as
>>748917559Mariofaggots will just open wide and ask for seconds
>>748921354>Why did pirates buy games?Why not? Nintendo games don't lose value so you can always sell the physical games once the exploit drops.
>>748919352>bingtendo and valve droneNice try you stupid nigger, we know you retards have been making threads seething about whatever hardware valve puts out for people that already having computers to game on for the past 4 years.
>>748917559Isn't this really old news?
>>748917669>It's Nintendo fault I'm to stupid to know how to hotspot my phone.
>>748920839Did you read the thread? Multiple people tell him to factory reset his console to get around the problem. He ignores it and continues acting like his game will be impossible to play one day. What a retard. He must post here.
In the future you will need Nintendo Switch Online to open the home menu.
>>748922223>Nintendo will receive information about which unique game copy ran on your hardware. And here’s the interesting part: if that version has had its license revoked, Nintendo will simply LOCK your Switch.Xbox has done this since 2013 but except that you only lose access to that game. They could in theory lock the system too, but that's completely theoretical. It's the same story with Nintendo, we only know the physical games have a game ID but no real world case of refusing licenses or console lockdowns.
>>748922912It’s an inconvenience. I won’t disagree with that. But it also doesn’t affect long term offline play nor does it make physical copies unusable one day like some discord trannies are implying. Formatting your system takes seconds to do and can be done from the settings. Once the servers go down I plan on formatting anyway and just playing my carts completely offline. It becomes like any other cartridge based console after that. Key cards not withstanding obviously. But only retards buy those.
>>748917559So update your console.
>>748917559>NOOOOO LET ME KEEP MY OLD FIRMWARE SO I CAN EXPLOIT IT IN THE FUTURE NOOOO
>>748920552It is obviously a failsafe feature they added to stop potential exploits that exploit unpatched v1.0 cartridges.
>>748922989The 3DS did it too. I updated animal crossing once, deleted it later on and couldn’t play from the cartridge offline without updating again. Once I reset my system I could play from the cart offline without the update. OP is taking some old news with an easy work around and trying to make it seem like it’s over for physical owners. Probably a steam tranny who proudly bent over for gaben more than 20 year ago. They want all of us to be in the same digital only hell that they’re in so they need to lie and exaggerate things. It’s really quite sad.
>>748917559Relax, chud. No big deal. And stop modding your switch or face the consequences
>>748917967You hit update and it updates because it’s on the cart.
>>748920552There is software in the cartridge, anon.
>>748921390How do you back up your save game files so you don't lose them?
Fucking PSP games did this 20 years ago, anon.
>>748924349So the Switch 2 is a forced always online console?
>>748917669>you need internet for NSO featuresyea
>>748917802DUUUURRRR ITS FINE WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT DURRRRimagine curb stomping a nintendo bootlicker lol.
>>748917649There's no such thing as a Nintendo.
>>748917559It is the same with the Playstation. I remember buying a PS3 in 2009, and it stayed mostly offline. and when I bought a Gundam EXVS FB, it wont play unless I update the firmware, though the firmware is included in the game
>>748925670You can’t. That’s definitely the absolute scumbag part. Want to play your cart on its original software version, then everything must be reset. Nintendo could easily patch this but they won’t because they’re cunts.
>>748926057If an exploit is found on a unpatched cartridge that enables you to jailbreak the console why would they let you revert to a previous patch or completely unpatched state even offline.
slow day today huh?
>>748917559imagine not being able to drive your car because you need a system upgrade and there's no internet connection
