What is the most overrated visual novel of all time?
>>748924391Muv Luv and Steins;Gate
visual novels are not videogames>>>/lit/
all of them. lowest common denominator garbage propped up by lowest common denominator
>>748924391Kurisu is the sexiest anime girl ever created
You dumb zoomers barely read anything anyways.Prove me wrong, what have you read in the last 5 years? It doesn't even have to be a VN if you don't want it to be.
>>748924391Steins;Gate is a great VN but an extremely overrated anime with retardedly rewritten scenes that weren't in the VN. No idea why people glaze it so much.
>>748924679Read this post, wasn't good.
>>748924679It's called "playing", not "reading"
>>748924452fpbp
>>748924391Subahibi
>>748924524Based, she gave me a stockings and smart girl fetish.
>>748924391Danganronpa
>>748924764Stupid take, SG is probably the single best visual novel adaptation anyone's managed to make.
>>748924391hot sweaty messy sex with Kurisu during a heat wave no AC on the couch in the lab
>>748925243>single best visual novel adaptation anyone's managed to make>"noo suzuha don't kill the big baddie or else you'll be just like him!!"That shit literally doesn't exist in the VN but they threw that in the anime for fuck knows why. Retarded tropes like that can just fuck right off.
>>748925437That in the mess called Steins;Gate 0, do you have Alzheimer's? I was talking about the original series which is still considered one of the best anime by a lot of people.
>>748925368
>>748924391Umineko and Stains Gate.
>>748924391Muramasa is genuinely the peak jops weren't lying.
>>748925684Damn I need to go read that at some point
>>748924391Not sure if it fits the definition exactly, but Hundred Line fans overrate it to all highs and say its the best thing since sliced bread. But if you look inside you'll realize its a collection of officially licensed fanfictions about Kodaka's OCs, and half the routes are pure dogshit.
>>748924391Fate/Stay Night for sure
>>748924391You posted it
>>748924391midmasa is the most overrated by vocal edgelordsStein gate is by normalfags
Everything I've heard about Umineko is people calling it overrated but I actually want to read it despite it sounding like an intimidating, long mess of a story.
>>748924679I read Clannad and I liked it.
>>748924524She's great but Mayuri remains best girl
>>748924391DDLC
It's really too bad that visual novels are a dying medium now. The newest VN you'll even see mentioned here besides Hundred Line is like 10 years old.
>>748927187Read more
>>748924679I read both Brigador books
>>748924391muv luv sucks balls
>>748924391Muramasa and S;G
>>748927187New VNs are still being made. Manosaba is a big recent one. Before that was Hentai Prison.
>>748924391Not videogames
>>748927567>manosabaMaybe on planet yurifaggot glazer
>>748924391Disco Elysium
>>748924391Umineko for sure
Everything from 07th Expansion
>>748924524Goddamn straight
>>748924679I read literally nothing. The last VN I read was probably over 10 years ago and I just hang around VN discussion to relive the old days that will never come back.
>>748924391Higurashi and Steins;Gayte
>>748924454They aren't literature either
>>748924813cope
>>748925745>overrate itAlmost everybody i talk to, both inside and outside of the fandom, agree that it's a fucking mess and it's a game where the sheer concept outweighs the actual substance.Not sure where you're reading people calling it the greatest thing ever.
>>748924524Kurisu is pure sex but the character designs are pretty much the only thing about S;G that I like.
>>748929715I read it a few years ago and the time travel stuff was about as shallow as I was fearing it would be. The do a good job throwing up a lot of sleight of hand to make it seem interesting at first before falling into the same boring tropes again.
>>748929984S;G's story kind of aged like shit in that regard because most of the time travel related things that it did well have been done better in other stories since then. I think there's just some time travel burnout too in general because it ends up feeling cheap.
>>748930585>done better in other stories since then>since thenIt was done better in stories before it too
>>748924391Pic related?
>>748927019This. An unholy mix of of shit that's all been done before, barely kept on life support by its psychotic fanbase. Utter garbage.
is fata morgana any good?
How are VNs games if you read them?
>>748924391Probably Subahibi just from all of the pseud philosophy in it
>>748924679the "cold war" book in the tom clancy power plays series, also i listened to an audiobook version of starwars: shatterpoint
>>748924391I had to drop s;g after 6 hours, too much wasted time on dumb bullshit
>>748924454If you read the rules you'd know that japanese visual novels belong on /jp/ and westerns ones on /vg/
>>748931817The story would've been better with less pointless slice of life for sure and put more of that time into the main plot and even more character development scenes.
>>748932232i thought slice of life IS character development? or am i wrong? generally speaking
>>748931184Depends on what you look for in vns. It's good a stellar soundtrack, good atmosphere, good mysteries, but it gets too gloomy and melancholic at times for me.
10 years ago it would've been Ever17.Nowadays it's Muv Luv. Can't believe the majority of people who like it also started fellating the garbage that is Extra.
>>748932232>>748932506get these fucking tourists off my board right now
>>748932729>the garbage that is Extra.It's still better than Alternative.
>>748924391>What is the most overrated visual novel of all time?According to /v/'s list, it gotta be Higurashi.
>>748924391Thoughts on this?
>>748924452easily stein;gate, but it's insane how there are so many people that will say to just read muv luv alternative without the prequel because it's that good, probably the same people who praise steins;gate so much
>>748932850KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
MUMBAImasa
Anyone ever tried replaying the Danganronpa series? I kinda want to because of 2x2 but I basically remember every killer/victim. Is there any replay value at all?
>>748924391
>>748932850holy kino
>>748932850erm battler isn't gay doe...
>>748933096https://youtu.be/8gPcPvn-Xqk?t=1467Battler canonically got raped by goats and Ronove
>>748933317kekked
>>748933096Battler is not only gay but also a cuck
>>748932850Steins;Cucks...
>>748933096He is not, that's the revenge of a /vg/ schizo after his favorite MC Minato Kageaki was exposed as a cuckold by umichuds.
>>748932850>>748933317>>748933476You saved my friday
>>748933589>exposedBut he is a cuck in the VN? What's there to "expose"?
>>748933317L O L
>>748933317MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>748933317dunno who he is the guy on black uniform, but this is gold
>>748933706>>748933589You just don't get Muramasa's appeal.
>>748924391Ever17, WA2, S;G
>>748933789KEK
>>748933589>>748933706>>748933789back to /vn/ troonall heroines in Muramasa are virgins who only have sex with the protagonist
>>748933589>forced to witness the love of his life getting raped and murdered by bandits>loses his mother and sister>literally dies in every single heroine route>true route has him mindbroken by Sorimachi and forced into an endless hell of war and suffering despite just wishing for a quiet life>official artist keeps churning out NTR artwork of the main heroinesIs there an MC who suffered more than Kageaki?
>>748933978I said to go back to /vn/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/uGinPSYINcoDlqWoui1dlA/
>>748932850>>748933476>>748933159>/vn/ troon arrived
>>748924391FS/NIt's the Zelda of VNs
>>748934029it's a mindbroke umitroon that can't handle canon facts like Battler getting raped by goats or that Beatrice is a trannySo he make up things about Muramasa
>>748933978His life is basically a humiliation ritual.But he's more or less just a vessel for the author's liberal pacifist propaganda, so I couldn't take all of that shit he was going through seriously.
>>748934189>if you fight back against your foreign invaders you're scum that deserves to dieI'm not sure if the author thought he was being profound or if he just wanted to vent against the nature of war, but that part was beyond retarded.
>>748924391Definitely Aokana.Garbage game carried by high quality (but soulless) art.
>>748924391Muramasa
>>748924391saya no utasteins gate is really good thoughI feel bad for you if you have such poor taste that it is overrated to youthat must suckgoing through life with an inability to appreciate kino
>>748924391SubaHibi and Saya no Uta.
>>748924391Steins;Gate
>>748933159>>748933476He canonically loves oppai and fondled Jessica on their reuinion, shitposting tranny.Keep your fetish back in >>>/vg/ where it belongs.
>>748934380I gave Steins;Gate a fair chance but the time travel writing was too hackey. I can't believe this qualifies as a masterpiece for people.
>>748934189>>748934279>killing is le badName a worse trope.
>>748934189Why the fuck are they forcing vertical box for the English releaseIt just doesn't work
>>748934498>reuiniongm sirstill kissed a man, so he is gay
>>748934559He didn't kiss your mother.
>>748934579My mother isn't Beatrice.
ohhhh nahhhhhh DAT'S A LITTLE KID BLUD !
>>748934528>I can't believe this qualifies as a masterpiece for peopleIt's not one if you've already read/watched 1 or 2 time travel stories beforehand.
just because something is overrated doesnt mean its bad
>>748924391katawa shoujo or fruit of grisaiaone of the two
>>748934640best girl
>>748924391probably the normiebait ones, like doki doki, or hatoful boyfriend all those years ago.
>>748934640
NOOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL MASS MURDERING, SERIAL RAPIST TYRANTS!!!!!!! ISSA EVIL!!!!!
>>748934640That "little kid" in question:https://files.catbox.moe/js1fcu.jpgI still can't believe they got the official artist to draw NTR gangrape of Muramasa's main heroines.
>>748934738NamanikuATK is a freelancer
>>748934640>>748934694>>748934716>>748934738rokuhara onahole
>>748934559No, he didn't.Shitposting tranny.
>>748934738>>748934716Proceed.
>>748934768
>>748934794he kissed Beatrice before she joined the 41%
>>748934853Beatrice is a biological woman, shitposting tranny.
wish /vn/ shitposter would leave
>>748924391If I was 12 years old when it came out I might have thought it was the greatest manga or anime of all time.Kinda like how I thought Tool's Salival was the best music to ever exist when I was 12.>berserk's golden land arc>that's gay shit for idiots>im smart this is sciencetype of kid retarded ideas
>>748934738Why are muramasafags like this?Every single doujin is ntr shit too >>748933589
>>748924679I'm currently reading The Kept Man of the Princess Night. The MC is the biggest piece of shit I've read in a while but he fits the story perfectly and I like seeing him get his just desserts.
>>748934897rokuhara tapped that
>>748934881Beatrice has no ovaries, no uterus, no womb, and a y chromosomeDo you seriously not understand that Beatroce os not a woman?
>>748934916Why resorting to lies?https://exhentai.org/?f_cats=1017&f_search=fullmetal+muramasa
>>748934915Steins;Gate isn't a manga so I already know you're a certified idiot
>>748934975She has a crushed uterus from her injury, nothing indicates that she is a man aside from your deranged tranny delusions, muramasafag.Read https://sorel.substack.com/p/suicide-of-the-golden-troon for clarification.Meanwhile Kageaki is a canonical cuck, regardless of how you may cope about it.
>>748924391Umineko
>>748934979https://exhentai.org/s/9c234acef2/353894-15kekHe's just sitting there, watching the show.
>>748935071I don't need to read some tranny headcanon, read the manga.
>>748935128And have you seen how many moege have NTR doujins? So what? Can you elaborate more?
>>748935071Muramasa sissies can only lie and spread slander since their own favorite VN will never belong to the great classics everyone has been talking about for decades.Curious, since it came out around the same time as Umineko and Steins;Gate, but had no fan translation made for 12 years.
>>748924391Uminegro and Steins;Gate of course.
>>748935128
>>748935214Not your boogeyman.Beatrice being a tranny was a thing here for years. Go to /jp/ ten years old archive and its there.
>>748924391Muramasa (Negromasa)I fell for the meme rec 5 years ago and am still mad over my wasted 50 hours.
>>748935246Trvke
>>748935285see >>748935071
>>748924679I read my inventory in Minecraft all the time.
https://voca.ro/1loJ8uhi1tq8
>>748935214There was no interest in a fan translation, and in the end it had to be picked up and translated by JAST since no one else was bothering with it and they had the license already.Meanwhile Umineko had two separately ongoing fan tls made at the same time because there was so much demand. It's no wonder that the few deranged muramasa fans would target the classics out of spite now.
>>748934916
>>748935413kekSAVED.
>>748935413this is not /ylyl/
>>748935496kino
>>748935413KEKAROOO
>>748935459I mean, Muramasa doesn't even have a manga or anime adaptation, and its sequel was cancelled. Its fans being desperate for recognition is no surprise.
>>748935496GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
We posting muramasa memes?
>>748935413kekked
>this nigga is still samefagging about MuramasaObsession.
>>748935595kek
>>748924452FPBP
>>748935595GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
>>748935413I love umineko, but this got a laugh out of me
>>748935595Canon
>>748935413Do Beato really uses this big ladle to smoke weed?
>>748935413The man of 19 years ago...
Visual novels are for browns and niggers. Except for CLOCKUP's and Sei Shoujo's, those are for Aryans.
>>748935739Are you sure?
>>748935595KEK
>>748935739>/pol/turd lingoThey are not for you
>>748935413i don't get it. isn't that just that one sfx in umineko looped a couple of times? or is there someone actually using their voice to imitate it?
>>748935805It's how Beato looks without the wig.
>>748935805>i don't get itIt's a tranny shitposter from /vn/ who has been seething at Umineko for 5 years as revenge for anons making fun of Muramasa's ntr contents there all the time >>>/vg/583199429
>>748935246S;G had so much pointless filler it made me mad at the waste of time it was. I hear Umineko is even worse but I'll never read it.
>>748935883Kek, what a bitch.
>Uuhh this visual nove! Is too complex and the prose is too untranslatable for EOP''s>Look inside>A couple of small wordplays and maybe one or two terms that can't be directly translated that don't really affect the simple themes and story of a VN that's already written for an absent minded Japanese teenager who needs every point repeated 3 times
Wait, it's true that the Umineko main girl is trans?
>>748935883Lately they've been editing Kageaki into a fish.The shitposter hates that, so it's rekindled the conflict.
>>748936034wtf is that LMAO
>>748935990No, obviously not.Some of you fags seem to live in a parallel universe where every piece of fiction somehow has trannies in it.
>>748925684I tried reading it and had to drop it within 15 minutes. the writing was just so boring. I didn't like the setting, either.
>>748935907>so much pointless fillerThat's most visual novels. Though to be fair the good ones go to more interesting places and do more interesting things than s;g does.
>>748935990reallythere is even a trans wiki with Beato
>>748935804What are you gonna do, "gatekeep" me? You hominids on HRT love that word.
>>748936103You didn't miss a lot unless you're hungry for more marvel tier "killing bad" propaganda.
>>748932945Unless if you want to experience the story again or missed some interactions with characters, no
>>748935595topkek
>>748936140The medium gatekeeps itself, there's no need for that. /pol/turds and xitter censorship troons only fight for big fish
>>748936258>big fish
>>748936293GLUUUUUUUUUUUG
>>748936258Is that why a handful of mentally challenged retards shit up all visual novel discussion on 4chan>>748936293Case in point
>>748936293KEKsaved
>>748936034>>748936293WHY IS HE A FISH?
TsukihimeYUNOSaya no Utaall for pseuds
>>748924391Muramasa and DDLC
>>748936430Uminegro mad that the MuramasaCHAD says Beatrice gender is canonically ambiguous and has never been revealed, not even when someone questioned the author about it.
>>748936442saya no uta is the worst thing I've ever read. I haven't read much, but still.
>>748936516Kill yourself
>>748936293most unfunny shit I have seen and probably used aikeep that in /vn/
>>748935907I'd be able to stand s;g's dumb characters if the plot at least did something interesting with time travel. Why did it just become a generic timeloop?
>>748936293kek is this from /vn/?those guys are pretty funny
>>748924391Negromasa. That shit fell off worse than Attack on Titan.
>>748936560Because they had no creativity and only know how to rip off other time travel stuff for their story.
>>748936430>>748936620It's the hottest /vn/ meme at the moment
>>748936694Why do you keep replying to yourself?
>>748936554The OG is funnier, that uminegro got so mad he used AI to make a sloppa based on this.
>>748936694Naruhodo, thank you for the clarification.
>>748936694lmao this is too good
>>748936732kageakifish precedes that lazy sloppa though.The tranny shitposter made this in retaliation after the first couple of kageakifish edits.
>>748924391Probably has to be s;g, fsn is more popular but I actually like that one
>>748936794Why do you keep replying to yourself?
>>748936794this was 100% edited on gimp, dishonest retard
>kageaki but if fishI imagine a third worlder who thought this and probably laughed to himselfhonestly? ai shouldn't be allowed in the hand of brown people
>>748936560They can't even set up the time loop right without having to make a bunch of dumb asspulls like the MC passing around the dmail machine to everyone, how would they do anything more implicated than that?
>>748936935>it's afraid
Hello, co-conspirators
>>748937010I sure am afraid of a malnourished shitskin
>>748936935as a tourist i found neither funny. more than that, i was wondering how long drama and grudges need to fester to reach this state. even without the memes, i'm sure both sides are fags of the highest order. imagine scavenging social media for ammo and using ai to generate propaganda like some deranged lunatic. how long has this been going on for?
>>748937139>how long has this been going on for?4 years without pause>you are jokin-no
>>748936980kek, true
>>748937139it's 4 years already, but it got worse now with, the retard ask gpt for a sloppa, and then starts samefagging like a babyhe is doing that rn >>>/vg/583193641just skim to the bottom of /vn/
>>748937139>Both sides...You realize it's just one guy, right?
>>748924391Dies Irae and Muv Luv.
>>748924391Baldr Sky, Steins;Gate, a lot of sci-fi shit in general which I think the Japs are terrible with.
>>748924391Saya no Uta is the most overrated and Planetarian the most underrated
>>748924391You posted it already
>>748924679I read Higurashi recently, 8/10 breddy gud
>>748924391Reddits;Gate has got to be up there for sure. Okabe is such a bum.
>>748938457There's a universe where S;G was made with a less insufferable cast and the story is actually the masterpiece everyone claims it is.
>>748938651That's not going to be this universe though because the writer is a hack and gimmick characters are the only thing he knows how to write apparently
>>748927187>Magical Girl Taboo Villagehttps://mahoumura.com/>The Streamers' Alt Account Labyrinthhttps://hanoura-maze.com/>MoonHackhttps://moonhack.net/>Sakuraba Ema's Intertwining Thresholdhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/5102620/
>>748924679Tsui no Sora, Demonbane, Subahibi, Kagetsu Tohya and a few others. Subahibi was kino of the highest order though I still prefer Kichikuou Rance and Soukou Akki Muramasa by a tiny bit.
>>748924524You speak raw, unfiltered truth.
>>748938651No because the time travel is shit garbage kek
>>748924391They are all shit so who cares unless there's funny rape in it.
>>748938651Does this hypothetical masterpiece still require a plot device character to die in a retardedly constructed time loop?
>>748939443Maybe everyone should just go watch Back to the Future instead and be done with it.
>>748938795Huke's character designs completely carried the VN
>>748939443>b-but muh attractor fields explains it!yeah...
At least mayuri is cute.
>>748940281Mayuri is genuinely such a wasted character. Wish they had made her into an actual character instead of just a plot device.
>>748940474I think she has a really cute personality. It's true that she's not fleshed out that much but that's just the nature of things. Still wife material anyways.
>>748940474None of the cast is THAT good. Maybe Okabe but he's hit or miss and personally I find his personality grating at times. I don't think Mayuri is that much worse than say Daru.
The only good (as in not annoying) character in Steins;Gate is Ruka. There, I said it.
>>748941000You are gay.
>>748924679does reading loli doujinshi count?
>>748941000You are gay and also correct.
>>748925846I used to think this, but nowadays I'd put FSN and Steins;Gate in the same B-tier.
>>748924391Subahibi is probably the worst
>>748924391S;G and anything written by R07
>>748941387Subahibi is better than S;G but yeah it's overrated.
>>748941443Uminegros...
>>748925114>smart girl fetishdamn sucks having a fetish you cant realize in the real world
>>748941443The only thing wrong about Umineko is it's about 100 hours too long. No visual novel should take longer to read than Lord of the Rings, which only takes 40 hours.
>>748924679zoomer here.according to my Goodreads, I've read 291 books in the last three years when I started it.
>>748940909Daru is such a shit character I can't believe it. The pervy loser character is literally always cancerous garbage no matter what anime it is.
>>748941874Half of the cast just kind of sucks and is useless. I still don't know what Faris and Luka were supposed to add to the story.
>>748939785Attractor fields are such an asspull
>>748924391Umineko was insanely overrated. I have to assume it's because weebs don't actually consume good media/read books, so they just don't know what's mediocre slop. Umineko is considered slop in Japan but used to be highly praised as THE visual novel in the West by weebs. Now I think its reputation is souring as more people actually sit down and try to sift through it.>the prose is fucking awful, both in Japanese and the translation; beyond bad, the writing is amateur as fuck in his writing ability>the way he writes is terrible, describing something five different times for no reason, etc.>the story shits the bed multiple times, but goes completely off rails in episode 5 because the author seethed at his 2ch Japanese fanbase who correctly guessed the plot>claims to be the ULTIMATE mystery story, but the mysteries are fucking butt-ass retarded and contrived in the most insane ways possibleJust overall awful.
>>748942163It's actually infuriating how poorly s;g's time travel is set up. It's really just a cheap excuse to say Mayuri must always die and you can't stop this with time travel because reasons.The reason seemingly being that if they could do that the story would just be over.
I literally cannot believe Mouse read Umineko over 3-4 times over the course of her life. Something deeply is wrong with her. Other than being a huge cunt, of course.
>>748924524Kurisu is boring and generic, low tier tsundere.
>>748924391ever17
>>748925184>>748927019>>748934425These
>>748942406
>>748942526If she wasn't a channer nobody would care about her, shit character
>>748939547I enjoyed BttF more than S;G honestly
>>748942729There's nothing wrong with that opinion. Back to the Future is a fun story and it doesn't waste your time.
>>748924391Steins Gate is the most overrated.
I did not care for Higurashi.
>>748942812This but unironically
>>748924391White Album 2
>>748942809The main character is also cool instead of a cringlord like Rintaro
el psy congroo
>>748924391It used to be S;G, now it's probably 2nd behind DDLC.
>tsundereGross.
>>748924391Doki doki literacy clubIt was created as joke, parodying cutesy VNs for the purpose of delivering a shock twistIt was internet creepypasta type shitBut concept that was wasted on a large amount of the child audience who never read a VN before anyway, instead they took it seriously and actually started celebrating the characters and how they felt like big boys for tackling the mature themes, and from there, the fanbase grew
>>748942585Keep seething.
>>748924391Ever17 would probably be my top pick. It has zero redeeming factors whatsoever and it complete shitMuv Luv Alternative and Umineko are strong contenders for being complete shit too
>>748943526It baffles me how popular it is when how surface level it is
>>748944237DDLC is obviously nonsense, about nothing, that says nothing, made for children. The thing is, it's very obviously that if you have even the slightest bit of media literacy. I don't think it's universally praised enough to count as the most overrated.
>>748931184I liked it, but it puts its worst foot forward. Nell and Yukimasa are both worthless nothing characters and spending the first 25% of the book following them probably turns away most people.
>>748934996I genuinely give so little fucks about S:G that I forgot the anime was the only thing I could find and I watched like 3 episodes of it, ten or more years ago.It's shit.
>>748924391MGS4
>>748924391Maybe but it's good though.
