Why are you like this?
>TopJewish>bottomNot Jewish
>>748933038>can get anything I want shipped to my house without needing to leave my chairNah Amazon is based.
Valve, for all their faults, aren’t at the mercy of sharevampires like Bezos and Zuck are.
You dont even know what monopoly is
>>748933113>>bottom>Not Jewish
ah yes amazon, the unlimited money company who spent 15 years trying to "disrupt" steam and failed
>>748933038>monopolyit's not a monopoly.
>>748933038I wish Steam was a real monopoly
It's okay when the monopoly actually provides good service. The whole point of monopolies being bad is that they result in shitty products/services due to no competition.
>>748933182Indeed, how will you? You cannot even begin an attempt.
>>748933038amashart and facefuck is anti consumervalve is pro consumerit's that simple
facebook has simps?
>>748933038>Users can review games to warn people not to buy them if they suck or run like shit or have DEI>Steam sales have incredible deals>Incredible multiplayer and networking features built into the client>Allowed to refund a game under 2 hours played or less than 2 weeks owned>Still sometimes allowed to refund past that if you have a good reason>Customer support isnt a bunch of overseas jeets and actually help you>Has extremely strict rules against developers and publishers doing anti-consumer tactics, like putting advertisements in their games or allowing crypto scam games>Despite being a digital library, I trust that I own my games and they won't be ripped away from meThe better question is why WOULDN'T I be like this?
>>748933038All day, every day, snoys seethe about Steam.
>>748933327He's more jewish than public companies like refusing to sell his hardware at a loss while public companies do thatExtremely jewish
>>748933846>Valve sells steam machine at a loss>Buy steam machine>Uninstall steam>Install windows>Use it as a normal PC>Never buy any games on it>Valve has now lost moneyYou're retarded
>>748933628>>Users can review games to warn people not to buy them if they suck or run like shit or have DEIValve themselves support DEI lmao>>Steam sales have incredible dealsCause you don't own the games and can't transfer>>Incredible multiplayer and networking features built into the clientWow like every platform >>Allowed to refund a game under 2 hours played or less than 2 weeks ownedI can return my physical games after completing them>>Still sometimes allowed to refund past that if you have a good reasonOh sometimes how generous >>Customer support isnt a bunch of overseas jeets and actually help youConfirmed to use AI bots>>Has extremely strict rules against developers and publishers doing anti-consumer tactics, like putting advertisements in their games or allowing crypto scam gamesAnd yet let malware through>>Despite being a digital library, I trust that I own my games and they won't be ripped away from meThey literally said you don't own your games
>>748933954You can do that with Xbox too yet they still sell at a loss, you got to make a fake scenario in your head to defend a corporation. How many people would even do that
>>748934010>I can return my physical games after completing themLMAOOONot for long, snoy
>>748933038Cuz gaben os ourguy and the other companies just exist to make life worse for everyone.
Steam hasn't pissed me off in the last two decades.Kind of impressive, honestly.
>>74893412120 years longer than you, i got thousands of physical games to choose from so will never run out
>>748933846Almost like public companies work differently
>>748934290I also have those 20 years of games available on emulators I can pirate for free. Snoys continue to cope and seethe
>>748933385Yeah it's Indians just like the people making sure 1/4 of the catalog is pro AI threads.
>>748934110>You can do that with Xbox too No you fucking can't?Imagine being so delusional you imagine microsoft as being better than it is
>>748933038>topShit service.>bottomGood service.
Steam is a good service and doesnt give my pc aids.Also love gabe cuz he supports linux.
>>748933038I'm prepared to turn on Steam the moment they turn on me.
>>748933038Gabens the last good CEO on the planet, he actually cares about the consooOoomer. Once he dies, its joever
>>748934445Weird you didn't say steam, not too confident huh
>>748933038I dont even have a steam account lol
>>748934775>guy who made DRM store cares about consumers ?????
>muh """""""""""""""""""""""'good"""""""""""""""""""""" service>look inside>parasitic entity burrowed deep inside one of the most profitable industries out there with its enormous appendages choking out alternatives, killing competition, and paying of lawsuit fees like nothing, ethics be damned, damning entire hobby into ruin with mass exploitation just so its shareholders (a fat fucking demon spawn from the putrid depths of microsoft) can buy more yachts before his spirit can finally escape its bloated carcass
>>748934880Considering the time when steam was made, which was an era of mass exodus of game devs from pc to console due to piracy, steamworks exists merely to trick devs into thinking it does anything to stop piracy. Its so well documented that tech illiterates can get around it with a single google search. If steam wanted to be a drm store then steamworks wouldnt be the complete joke it currently is.
>>748934010>They literally said you don't own your gamesWhat they said is merely the law. Buying a game grants you one (1) licensed copy. It's true for all games sold everywhere. If you burn a copy of said game onto a disc, it exists in the exact same legal space as that copy of PS1 Crash Bandicoot you have sitting on your shelf somewhere.Would you rather Valve lie about what US copyright law dictates?
>>748933038Gayben good.It's really just that simple.
>>748935095feels like I could get a bingo off such a retarded post valve justifies its cut way more than any console corpo considering they're actively improving the industry and not just reiterate the same shit over and over
>>748933113>bottom>Not Jewish
>>748935095What shareholders?
>>748935095Valve doesn't have shareholders. Majority of shares are held by Gaben and the rest are by valve employees. No outsider investors. If you're upset that a billionaire is buying yachts then you're not gonna believe what the rest of the billionaire class is spending their money on.
>>748935498>they're actively improving the industryLMAO
>>748935731Gabe is the only guy even bothering to support linux in any serious capacity. And when it comes to being pro consumer you cant really get more freedom and control over your system than with linux.
>>748935731yes, Linux, fex, steam input, just to name a fewwhat has Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, epic or gog done? Fucking nothing, they're going back
>>748933038Because Gay Ben supports Open Sores and I don't use Proprietary software.
>>748935903>>748935927>DURRRR LINUXis this really all you can say? Thats it? Other companies are actually making GAMES
>>748933038So long as Valve, a company that makes money hand over fist, doesn't get boughted out, I don't see the issue.
>>748936196Valve is making deadlock tho? It has a thread up right now.
>>748935903>Gabestop attributing credit to people who haven't done anything
>>748935095>choking out alternatives, killing competitionSteam isn't going out of their way squash competition. The competition are killing themselves.If anything it's every other massive company and government included, doing the exact thing you're accusing Steam of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQRcK9nYg9g
>>748936238Generic multiplayer slop will not save the industry
>>748933038>steam>big tech
>>748935658>To know that you make billions for doing nothing, can you even imagine what would you do in his position, anon?I would make video games instead of buying yachts
>>748933385normies still get mad I won't use instagram
>>748933038timmycel threadtimmytencent threadremote chewer threadgo be a disgusting crypto jew somewhere else
>>748935095Everything apart from epic gays takes a 30% cut
>>748936196>>748936372They are making deadlock as we speak.
>>748934010Why would I need to transfer my game when I only paid $5 for it?
>>748936341>they dont even make games>okay they do make games but that game isnt saving the industry???
>>748933196They tried?I haven't even noticed
>>748936341>genericIt is most certainly unique.
>publicly traded companies (and private companies trying to go public) are focused on cutting costs, ripping off customers, and scamming investors>private companies are FORCED to provide a product that people willingly pay for or go bankrupthmmm I wonder why people don't have as many problems with private companies
Why even argue with someone this retarded?Its someone who actually boughted a current gen console. Its unthinking goycattle. Probably buys sony games.
>>748933846Hey you ever wonder why smart tv's are so cheap? They are bigger and more advanced then ever but compared to equivalent common pieces of technology they are remarkably inexpensive. The reason might surprise you. You see they sell them at a loss to get more people using them, so more people click accept to their ToS and privacy policy without reading it, which in turn means they have more people willingly allowing them to passively harvest their viewing habits with automatic content recognition built right into the device. This also includes your smart tv passively listening to you even when the screen isnt on. They then sell this information to data brokers and add agencies so they can better manipulate you into buying other things or holding preferred opinions. Thats right stupid goycattle, YOU are the product, not the discounted hardware. You thought you where getting a deal by buying a piece of technology that the producer sold at a loss, when in fact you willingly bugged your own home to the exclusive benefit of AI data collection and the jews who control it
>>748936487whats next you'll say artifact is worth playing
>>748936473We’re talking about Gaben, not Valve
>>748936196What fucking games, faggot?Repetitive derivatives of old shit? Is this what you're stroking them for?Fuck off, the real gaming innovation happens in the indie scene on pc and valve is helping to facilitate it while also improving the state of gaming as a whole by breaking down all the boundaries
>>748936653And yet, somehow, Vale is EVEN WORSE
Being successful and building the best service doesn't make one a monopoly especially when competition exists unhindered
>>748936672>They don't make games>Ok they do make games but it wont save the industry>Also remember that one time they made a bad gameNigger
>>748936372Show me one company that puts 100% of their profits into video games. That means they cannot be investing into ANYTHING else. Not merchandise, not theme parks, NOTHING.
>>748933038Theres a huge difference between private and publicly traded companies and how they view you as a customer.
>>748936730>real gaming innovation happens in the indie scene on pclmao, tell us this new innovative indie game you were playing, mecha chemoleon? lmao Sony Nintendo and Microsoft help indies more than Gabes lazy ass, the big 3 actual fund indies and help with marketing
>>748936993>the big 3 actual fund indies and help with marketingAnd yet the greedy pieces of shit all take 30%. They should be working for free. After all, that's why valve is evil.
>>748936993There are no indies coming out of consoles, niggerStop coping
>>748936872>that puts 100% of their profits into video games.No one said that dingus but they spend more money on yachts than actual video game development
>>748936473What's with Valve and obsession with dota slop? Is that all they play?
>>748937053>After all, that's why valve is evil.Unlike Valve, the big 3 actually help with the development process for smaller studios even funding so they have more right to 30% unlike Gabe who does nothing for indies
>>748937129Both games are directed by IceFrog.
>>748933038only gaben can satiate my endless lust for dicks. this is how I became a steam fanboy for life
>>748934778I've had my Steam account for a very long time, probably longer than you've been alive, and I can't recall a single game being taken away from me. Even if, I can always pirate them and keep them forever, but as someone who doubted Steam when it was new, hence why I joined almost 2 years after Steam's release as you can plainly see, I can confidently say that I doubt Steam is going away any time soon now. Don't get me wrong, I still want physical games, but denying Steam entirely, regardless of all the good it does, is rather silly.
>>748936792Don't be disingenuous when people say they want more games they clearly mean games like half life, portal, L4D. They never mean "oh give me more live service multiplayer slop like dota"
>>748937198>help with the development process for smaller studios>Looks inside>Hiring cultural consulting firms for $500 an hour to make their game HR-approved and gay for faggots because they need to appeal to everybody
>>748937198They could fund the entire game, and the big 3 still wouldn't have any justification to take even a single percent of their profits.
>>748933175This. Valve has never engaged in illegal, anticompetitive practices to prevent other companies from estalbishing a similar video game platform to Steam. They're just all ludicrously fucking incompetent at it. The funny thing is that it really could have been so easy. Microsoft, for example, already controls 95% of the desktop PC market. All they had to do was make their Xbox PC platform (forget what it's officially called) to be a 1:1 copy of Steam with different branding and they would have ended Gabe's career overnight.
>>748937129Gabe only plays Dota 2 and WoW
>>748937246In 2014 steam locked my account for a month cause someone from a different country tried to log on and it took steam support to respond in a month to fix it. Couldn't play those games for a month. Thats when i realized its foolish to tie all your games to one account
>>748937398The ship has thankfully sailed on thatMicrosoft has completely destroyed its reputation when it comes to gaming and their OS
>>748937298>they are doing this thing I just made upstop posting
>>748934445Emulation and steam are not the same thing. Keep up sea
>>748933038I deal with Amazon and Steam, though.
>>748937487You can put the taskbar on the left now. There's officially no reason to use lincucks anymore.
>>748937512Look at any of Xbox's funded indie games. Look at how gay Double Fine became after they took over. It's obvious what they were doing.
>>748937621Hardly enough considering the damage they've dealt to it in the past decade
>>748937691It's literally the only thing linux had going for it.
Its their money why the fuck do you care what they do with it.Should they be donating to blm or someshit?
>>748937640Difference between owning a studio like double fine and helping a third party indie studio as you dont own them and have zero control over them
>>748933038People on /v/ get really upset when people have money to spend on things dont they?
>>748937745>Should they be donating to blmThey basically already are
>>748937808The anti-Valve schizo who makes these threads regularly gets mad that Gabe spends his money on yachts and doesn't support him.
>>748937640NTA but gays have always been heavily represented in art, I don't really care if the people making the games are gay. And if we're bitching about video game studios getting involved in politics, EA is now part-owned by the President's son-in-law (who's Jewish, since I'm just going to take a shot in the dark and assume that's a problem for you) and the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
>>748937726Yeah right It's not like the core UI is still made up of web apps or anything
>>748933038>We can't compete with Bezos! His company is big, and evil. We're small, and neutral.
>>748933038I was unironically the bottom until Gabe tried to sell me some cheap velcro straps and cloth for $70. That fat greedy prick can go fuck himself now.
>>748933175Its a board game boomers like to play
>>748937847And just more generally the reddit/bluesky crowd is really angry that he just uses his money to buy silly personal luxury shit instead of donating it to a good cause, like the Covid-concious Massachusetts Lesbian Bar. >>748937873Microsoft ceding its corporate leadership structure to Indians, followed by mass layoffs of American workers in favor of outsourcing and AI, is such a fucking hilarious on-the-nose morality tale that if anyone else in the corporate world had a soul they might actually learn from it.
>>748937925Walmart sells dildos. Are you buying them, or getting canned ravioli like a normal person?
>>748934880This argument is so fucking stupid. Its the devs choice, valve doesnt force DRM they just give them the option to have it. GOG neuters itself by limiting itself to only games that dont have drm, then epic wants every single shackle they get. I get epics viewpoint, but the amount of seething they do is retarded.
>>748937965Walmart dildos tend to be fairly low quality, the dicks don't even have veins. The ravioli is nothing to write home about either.
>>748933385People over 50 still use Facebook as their internet go-to. Women under 50 use Instagram (girlie Facebook).
>>748937949Pretty sure Gabe just funded the building of an extremely expensive deep sea research vessel earlier this year. That's huge especially if you're into marine research. But because he wasn't sending it to some troon anti suicide fund nobody is gonna talk about it.
>>748938009I eat authentic Italian food made by the inventor.
>>748937989>just give them the option to have it.Why even give the option>bro i didn't add DRM I just gave someone else the ability to add it so that should take any responsibility off ne teehee
>>748937989Mister Timothy genuinely thinks that having a 10% cut for developers as a selling point is something gamers care about. Like nobody actually gives a fuck. His service fucking sucks. This isn't a charity, it's a business, i don't give a fuck how much of a cut the developers are getting versus the store. I just care if I get my games and the launcher I use to play them doesn't suck shit. And Epic Games launcher absolutely sucks shit.
>>748937965How is that even a response
>>748938120>And Epic Games launcher absolutely sucks shit.How, i click download and I can play the game no problem
>>748938156>i hate so and so because they try to sell me things that aren't what I wantIt's called self control. You can find knockoffs all over that are cheaper. If you feel you HAVE to buy it, you'll pick up any dildo you see because the gubmint mind controlled you into it with your EBT card.
>>748938156Why do you cry about a luxury product being expensive?
>>748938239Why is the interface so big and clunky? Why do I have to flip through web pages to view my own library instead of having a cached list? Steam's interface should be the yardstick for other stores.
>>748937089nice goalpost shift nigger
>>748937089But why would anyone want a Valve video game in 2026 unless their name is Vlad or Olga?
>>748938342Said the guy goalpost shifting, show me where anyone specialized it has to be 100%
>>748938384Cause they once made single player games champ
>>748938310>Why do I have to flip through web pages to view my own librarylol lets not pretend you have enough games on epic for this to be a problem
>>748938502I do, though. Even with free shit, I have a good bit, and I bought SoP and KH1-3 because they were both "NEVER EVER EVER" for a long time.
>>748938102>the straights get authentic Italian food at an affordable price>the gays have to jump through a million hoops to get non-crazy dickThe true homophobic crisis in America
>>748938445These young niggers don't remember.
Any time anons try to shit on steam it gives off the energy of a bitter customer of some other service upset that steamfags aren't as raped as them.
>>748938735Capcom fills that void with cute and funny games.
>>748933038this but unironically
>>748938106Because the developers want it, retard. Valve is the middle man between the consumer and the devs, they are serving both sides. Ultimately they are serving themselves first so they arent going to limit their library by telling devs what they can and cant do if they can help it. The only restrictions theyve done is because of legislation and visa/Mastercard bitching.
>>748938838>well the developers want to rape you in the ass im just a middleman who allows him to
>>748938106Let's see what happens when you don't give developers the option.
>>748933038You people still ripping out your ball hair in frenzied rage over Gabe not bending the knee and handing Valve over to the people you usually despise more than anything?
>>748938931NTA but any game not willing to release on GOG is not a game worth playing anyways.
>>748939057>You people still ripping out your ball hair in frenzied rage over Gabe not bending the knee and handing Valve over to the people you usually worship more than anything?ftfy. Understand who you're talking to.
>>748937935Wheelbarrow rules, all other pieces drool.
>>748938393Valve makes and maintains video games like Deadlock, Half Life Alyx, TF2 and Counterstrike. You said that wasn't enough.
>>748939058>those grapes are sour anywayWhy would you even use GOG? The games are usually not kept up to date by the developers because GOGlems are faggots who eat whatever slop they're shoveled to "FITE TEH POWAH," download speeds are third world, and the staff is literally people who have an entire genre of jokes talking about how stupid they are.
>>748938931You also get thishttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14haGnU2kcY6wV6ssBeyW6_mMk6kkVqZX-QvMKlgXGu0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>>748933038not enough yachts at the bottom
>>748933175/thread
>>748939082It's impossible to know who /v/irgins love and hate because they flip-flop their allegiances depending on how they want to shitpost at the given moment.
>>748939261But specifically the guy who makes every anti-Valve thread says we should think of the poor publishers who have to give a 30% cut to Valve.
>>748934010Valve doesn't care if devs or consumers remove drm from their games. Can't say the same for nintendo or sony.
>>748933038Gabe had my back first.
>>748933182>>748935524Indian hands typed these posts
I'm not turning against Gabe unless Gabe turns against me.
>>748933038Gabe will obey the law and respect consumers (albeit only when a government cracks down on him).Top would sooner release blackmail footage of politicians raping children than ever admit wrongdoing.
>>748939173>TF2 and CounterstrikeHardly they barely get any updates and have shit ton of hackers. Nothing to maintain in Alyx
>>748940030What difference does it make if you still got DRM at the end of the day>Valve doesn't careYou could have stopped posting there
>>748933038Obviously because of his Santa Claus stereotype.Santa is in fact evil, but with enough charisma and deceiving he is viewed as a good guy
>>748940417>they barely get updatesThis. Nintendo is the devil because they don't update Super Mario World anymore. Cheap greedy pricks keep charging for sequels, instead of putting that content into the game for free.
>>748933038>Sara why are you nou using the EGS saar
>>748940579>they don't update Super Mario World anymore.Disingenuous to compare a 30 year old game to CS2 which released more recently and is valves biggest game right now
>>748933038valve is a 5/10 company in an industry where most alternatives are 1 or 2mind you it could all change with a change on management and it's bound to happen at some point, enshitification is inevitable
>>748933038>minmaxes profits with little heed to the customer until it really starts to cut into the bottom linevs>far more consumer friendlyIt's that simple. And it will remain that simple no matter how many times you post these gay-ass threads, you shill faggot.
>>748933846The last time any meaningful hardware was sold at a loss was in the PS3 days. Selling a computer at a loss during a massive hardware shortage would be hyper retarded as a bonus.
>>748933038The only 2 logical ways to get games are to either use Steam for all its useful features (reviews, achievements, friend lists, online features, workshop, game updates, one single library that doesn't force you to have all your games installed at once...) or pirate games. Steam doesn't do the slightest thing against piracy in any way, therefore the 2 aren't in competition and anyone bitching about Steam can undeniably be identified as a shill for an inferior competitor seething.
>>748933038Valve isn't big tech
Anti-Steam shills really are desperate recently.
>>748933038kys jeet
>>748933038I guess I just can't say no to daddy Gaben.
>>748936764Fuck off retard
>>748933038Gaben's company is has my support as long as they remain a privately owned company that directly sells its product to it's customers and is beholden entirely to them, not to (((Shareholders))). As soon as he dies and some future CEO immediately takes it public, I'll burn my steam account to the ground, it will no longer serve any purpose.
>>748933038Steam sales are awesome, great customer service, and their platform is the best by far.
>>748946541You can get literally every game worth playing and chingchong.cn, and you support a good country.
>>748935095Retard
>>748936196A company helping me break away from Windows painlessly and actually keep playing my game collection is a LOT more valuable than literally anything the companies in the OP picture are doing you retarded faggot.
>>748933038Gabe actually stops the most retarded buisness practices from being implimentedThey will be implimented after he dies and the era of easy customer-oriented videogames will end and every company will have their own store with their own launcher with their own anti-piracy softwarewhich won't even be installed on your PC - everything will be streamed from datacenters and everything will be generated by AI coded by pajeets and taught on AI slopThere is no life in the voidOnly death
>>748933038>public companies owned by Jews vs private company owned by humans It's that simple.
>>748939216>Current total issues 1535>Missing soundtrack 439lmao
>>748934010didnt read
>>748939112Carchads >>>>>
>>748933038Steam refunded game I had 2k hours in because update ruined it for me
>>748947024L Speed
>>748935095Devs mad. Get fucked. Consumers choose Steam.
>>748935095>choking out alternativesBy just existing...>killing competitionSee above>paying of lawsuit feesLawsuits by literally someone called Rothchild
>>748935095>valve (A private company) shareholders>"muh monopoly">"think of the poor Rothchilds that have to pay UNFAIR legal fees, goyim">"Real gamers care a lot about economics, won't somebody PLEASE think about poor EA-I mean the poor indie devs that have to pay an unprecedented %30 of sales, that's what true gamers care about, just see how well all the not-free games on Epic games store sold."
>>748936653I don't think you can buy a "dumb" TV anymore, so calling them smart seems silly at this point.
>>748933038Build a better service and people will come.
>>748949908I did!I even give out free games all the time but people STILL don't stick with it...
>>748936653>MUAHAHAHAHA! I see your every move anon! >=]>kukuku... There's no escape >=]>...>What the hell? <=[>Why do you keep rewatching Vandread, Chobits and Tosho Daimos from your pendrive? o_O>W...Why do you just keep replaying Xenogears, Parasite Eve and FFT on a emulator!? 0A0>W... W... WHY DO YOU KEEP PLAYING 1.12.1 SERVERS ALL OVER AGAIN!? YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRYING DIFFERENT RACE/CLASS COMBOS! IT'S ALWAYS HUMAN PALADIN AND NOTHING ELSE! OAO>Pssshhh... No matter. I'll come back later. Surely I'll be able to get some new consumer data out of you.>...>NOTHING CHANGED! FUCKING WHY! ARE YOU FUCKING AUTISTIC!?>YOU'RE ONLY PICKING UP KISEKI SERIES NOW AFTER 20 YEARS!!>Oh god... It's not just him...>Jesus Christ, there's so many of them...>I cant believe I wasted billions on setting up an infrastructure to watch a huge segment of people stuck in the past.>What have I done?
>>748950093kek
>>748944146After scrolling the thread, this feels like an insane comment.
>where game is super cheap.internet>game says there>get game super cheap >it's a steam keyLower prices instead handing out shovelware for free and pay for /v/ threads egs
>>748944146After scrolling the thread, this feels like an accurate comment.
>>748933038I haven't bought a game since they patched regional pricing.
>>748933038If the customers of your rival are fully aware of their monopoly and are cool with it, it's probably because their service is better than whatever dog shit you keep churning out.Make a better product, faggot. This isn't rocket science.
>>748933846A dying business trend also most Steam hardware's business model isn't comparable to consoles. The unit sales aren't earmarked to make those kind of numbers to begin with and the goal isn't to offset the cost of such a high number of units made by selling games.The Deck and Steam Machine are more like laptops in business models and nobody like Dell or ASUS are selling their laptops at a loss.
>>748933113Lmao
>>748933038It's the reddit tourists, redditors love placing that cunt in a pedestal.
>>748938735I'll never stop being amused by all the linux evangelists sucking off Valve and Gaben when Steam was a hard requirement to play Half Life 2. So much for software freedom.
>>748950813The contribution of liberating people from your jeetcorp is greater than the inconvenience some poorfags felt 20 years agoMust be hard to imagine considering you think like a nigger
>>748950549>selling to a country means jewishI guess Valve are also Australian, Polish and Japanese then.
The real answer is because Steam/Valve is quiet about what they do. When Valve does something they don't boast about it like they reinvented the wheel. Shit, they barely communicate with the public. That's why people like them because they're not annoying, not because of how good or bad they are.
>>748933038Because Steam isn't Big Tech, nor a monopoly. Hope that helps.
>>748933038steam isn't a big tech monopoly, retard.
>>748933113>old english name>in trend with usual bong tradition first name is biblical nonsenseStill swarthy discount-jews will scream jew, though they themselves are more akin to a filthy kike than anything.No one is simping, you are severely autistic, malding and your ego is so fragile that any opposition against your demented and very flawed logic spawned from self-induced braindamage (due to isolating yourself and not being around people for extended periods of time - yes, it's a real thing you nigger) is seen as "YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!!"At the end of the day, the reason Steam doesn't get shit - aside from these very fabricated and forced threads - is because they aren't actively trying to fuck people over at every turn; they provide a good experience plus gives the impression of putting the consumer first (whether or not that is the actual case or not, is not the crux though, it is whether it seems so) None of its competitors can compete with that, obviously. That said, monopoly is not always a bad thing, you fucking redditnigger
>>748951225*Meant to reply to OP
>>748950590Imagine just lying for free. There's literally no other way to get games that compares to Steam.
>>748950948You must be baiting. PC gamers didn't have a problem with Steam because they were poor. It was the fact that you had to install this bloated, buggy launcher to play a game. Steam was legit awful back then. Everyone hated it. Steam and SecureROM were the devil incarnate. All forgotten now, though.
>>748951391If you have to go back 20 years to mount an argument against steam then you really have nothing
>>748950813>>748951391>it doesn't heccin matter thar Gaben is actually taking Linux gaming seriously and is giving it lots of support because uh... you had to use a bit of internet connection to validate your copy of HL2 once and 2 decades ago Steam wasn't that good!!!You know your company is doing great when those are the strongest criticisms one can think of
>>748950590We're still stuck in 2008? NeatDon't know why you're fabricating shit this blatantly.I mean, if gaben and steam really is as bad as you want us to believe it is, you ought to be able to present that with proper truths, and not shit like this that only serves to push people further into blindly supporting steam from a feeling of "these assholes are malicious, we got to stand against them" nonsense. You're actually fucking dumb man. Very likely non-white
>>748933846You do realize that steam isn't exclusively locked to the steam machine right?
>>748933038facebook and amazon are garbage, have you ever tried to use them? it's embarrassing how shitty they've let those services become. steam at least isn't shit yet, but the moment it stops being good everyone will start shitting on it too
>>748951483I can think of a few more critiques:>Runs a veritable casino with CS2 weapon skins, praying on addiction.>Hasn't made a good game since The Orange Box.>Caved to Mastercard over porn games.>Weird tranny art on their sales promotions.>Steam controller is garbage.>Steam Frame is a failure.>Doesn't actually support Linux gaming, but supports a beefed-up version of Wine and DXVK to run Win32 on the commie OS, because Linux backwards compatibility is so shit.I could go on.
>>748933846Ask yourself how a public company can get away with selling its hardware at a loss. What revenue will carry that loss, and through what means will the hardware - in time - make a profit? The Steam Machine, Deck and Frame are not like consoles; they are not closed systems that rely on overpriced exclusives and forcing paid subscriptions onto the consumer.And exactly because it is not a public company there are no investors to put forth the capital to allow this entire scheme. Which is a good thing, as it means the company and its decisions and thus the product will not be shaped by the whims of investors, but the owner of the company and those he delegate power to. Redditnigger
>>748951718So, a bunch of nadaburritos and the Mastercard thing, which is impossible to fight.
>>748933038Gabe has never done me wrong, I hope he buys more yachts with my money, he deserves it
>Runs a veritable casino with CS2 weapon skins, praying on addictionSame guy who made CS2 skins cheaper and easier to acquire, thus genociding millions of people who used Counter Strike to gamble lol.>Doesn't actually support Linux gamingOh I see you chose reality denial as your strategyAlso steam controller is fine
>>748933113Gayben is a good jew
>>748951718>muh skinniggerynon-issue unless you're a gook or a spic>hasn't made a good game since The Orange BoxI'd say they never made a good game, but that's really irrelevant to the Steam topic>muh porn games!!That faggotry should be purged entirely, fuck your pathetic wank games, go back to newgrounds>I don't like the visuals in their promotionsMe neither, but that's purely a thing of taste>steam controller is garbageDid you buy it, is that why you're so mad?>Steam Frame is a failureRemains to be seen, but VR is a gimmick that won't get big, ever>akksshually, technically uuuh, it's not linux support!Dude, I invite you to go on. Please, this level of reaching is quite funny
>>748952010>I'd say they never made a good gameKys
>>748951930There are no good non-whites.Gabe Newell is not jewish. A curved nose does not make you a jew. This trait exists isolated from any jewfilth several places in the world. I invite you to read about disparate origins. He's of ugly bong heritage
>>748952046I won't, but notice I included "I'd say", purely my subjective opinion. A lot of people enjoy HL and CS and shit and that's why they were/are successful, I just don't enjoy 'em is all.
>>748952010>"They came for the porn games, and I said nothing..."Some Karens in Australia can dictate what games go on Steam. Meanwhile, GOG didn't cave. They gave porn games away to celebrate, in fact.>Linux gamingIt's a meme either way. Less than 5% of the market. Only the mentally ill/Valve dick-riders embrace it.
>>748933038>No real financial incentive to make the Deck, except it was cool (handheld PCs were not a popular thing)>No real incentive to spend nine figures making Alyx, except it was cool to do>Still making machines and frames just because "Hey, this shit's cool."As long as Gaben has no shareholders to answer to, he and Valve will remain my favorites just for doing cool shit that doesn't even earn them extra cash (as if they need any). The fucking orange box had three games for the price of one, homie. 20 years of giving us gifts.
>>748933113You wish, faggot gayben shill
>>748952445I've made the jump. All my work can be done on SteamOS, plus all my gaming. No linux-technobabble faggotry involved, it's just convenient and it works. No more bloated winshit. It's genuinely superior.>I AM ADAMANT ABOUT JERKING MY DICK TO MOVING PIXELS!Just get a god damn girlfriend, and never use that kike poem reference again, you dumb nigger
>>748952867>It's genuinely superior.It's not. You're very limited in the scope of software that you can run. No professional software, issues with compatibility that you're doubtless glossing over, etc. Not my first rodeo, bucko. I've been using different variations on Linux since Ubuntu 7.04. It works great for specific use-cases, but is still generally terrible for a desktop computer operating system. But if you're happy with it, that's great.>I REFUSE to acknowledge the slippery slope!Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not a fan of porn games either, but I see where this is going. Hell, the rot has already completely overtaken platforms like Playstation. For Steam, it's only a matter of time.
>>748935095schizophrenic word salad
>>748933038gaben is alright, it's after some new guy takes over valve that people have to worry about steam and if it'll go down the path of enshittification
>>748933127I also like Amazon, and I like that they largely make their momey by selling something.That said, the gap in size between the top companies and Valve is maybe 2 orders of magnitude.
When did "This company provides the best overall service and has the most customers compared to other platforms" become the definition of a Monopoly? The other platforms aren't exactly indie, tiny or irrelevant.
>>748933038Simple, big tech aren't equal in evilnessAnd the whole "no you only need to trust small shop!" is retarded since they won't have the money to actually improveFor me it's the tag system.>help players find the game they WANT>don't herd players toward publishers who paid the most in advertising>deals so good you feel bad for exploiting them>sales so frequent you actually ignore them to not gain a backlog>provide everything players need to evaluate the games>muh 30% tax => everybody does it and Steam provide better support plus positive advertisingAs for the whole>you don't own your game!Well>you own a license they are contractually bound to provide for as long as the game is commercially availableIf every physical item I own suddenly disintegrated, I could get a new PC, log on Steam, and still have all my games.In a way, Steam is helping Stop Killing Game.Let's just hope Steam DON'T turn evil.
>>748933038Because Gabe at least delivers good quality service and tries not to screw people over.
>>748944035If VALVE is evil, then those "shills" are actually reverse-shill paid by VALVE to pretend to hate them, but with stales arguments so bad any contrarian will jump on them.Allowing Steam to look like the victim and only doing the right thing
>>748933038At least steam isn't private equity owned.
Gabe Jewell saved personal computing.
>isn't a jew>refuses to go public with his company>wins a lawsuit against fucking rothschildsno wonder there's so much kvetching lmao
>>748950549Tell me how gayben upcharge da joos is a bad thing?
>>748954858Gaben made an OS. So I still use Windows.
>>748933038>toppublic, beholden to the whims and bitching of shareholders>bottomprivate, liberated
I love Gabe "Jewell" because I can open up steam, play a game I bought 10 years ago for a couple of bucks, see my old review on it, access my old saves on their servers, even if it's 100gb I can download that shit in seconds on its latest version, and I can do so on multiple devices without paying for any services or even interacting with the fucking store. And the gamepads that didn't work with it now do, and I can take notes and drawings of dicks midgame.
>>748954212When economics ceased to be actually studied or understood by those with the loudest opinions on the matter.
>>748933038Valve isn't trying to take over the fucking planet.
>>748937621I don't get the joke. I remember that being a feature all the way back in Windows 95.
>>748956079It got removed at one point, and there are people shilling linux complaining that they can't make a circular teleporting taskbar that activates their Lovense device.
>>748933038cuz steam isn't woke
>>748956152Huh. Why'd they remove it?
>>748956194Indians
>>748956152>if you don't love enshitiffication then you're whatever my schizo ass projects onto you Behold, the rhetorical ability of the winjeet
>>748956194Don't know. I'm employed by Epic to attack Steam. I don't know what Microsoft has going on.
>>748933113This sure got all the epstein victims seething kek.
>>748933113
>>748933175It's when a company is big and I don't like it
>>748957954Hebrew =\jewish Dumb ass by that logic all Europeans and white Americans are Jewish
>>748958034>>748958034>by that logic all Europeans and white Americans are Jewishdepends if theyre circumcised
>>748933038choosing between the lesser of two evils isn't a compromise, thats just called facing reality. Ideally a world where Steam isnt necessary would be better, but thats not the one we live in.
>>748933113this
>>748937398
>>748957954ok Daniel
>>748957954Are you stupid or something?
>>748933038gabe has never completely fucked me over for no reason
>>748958097No dumb ass circumcised people exist in Christianity it’s just not required Islam also does it and is required
>>748958461skill issue
>>748933038 im from india and i love gabe sir he gave steam rupee made games more affordable for the Bharat nation sirs
>>748953672Better read up on Amazon some more. They make money by forcing sellers to charge customers more money when not using Amazon for delivery, or else their "click to buy" spot on Amazon gets taken by a random reseller.
Gabe is a Bro. Simple as. Those other two Guys literally hate Humanity and see other Humans only as food or fuel.
>>748933038Gaben hahahaha gaben hahahah to stop a gayben hahahah
>>748953672>wholesale retailer for Chinese slop factoriesKill yourself
>>748933038>Big techSteam is less than 500 people.>Monopolylol, lmao even.
>>748957954Are you calling the schattenjager a jew?
>>748933113Correct.
>>748933113kek this post got the kikes and tendies seething
>when your business is so good the competition can do nothing but send waves of jeets to try to smear youAll you're doing is convincing me to keep using Steam
>>748937246That's because they don't take games away from you. If a game is delisted, you can still download it if you own it. Steam will outlast them all.
>>748933038>>748933113The jew fears good services
>>748959391Somehow German names are conflated with Jewish names but Hebrew names are "Christian".psyop
>>748933385magatards will simp for any company that was at trumps inauguration
>>748959887Surnames, because they used them to blend in, like Rothschild, RothsteinNot first names, all those indicate is what the parent wanted
>>748958216>>748958034>>748958461Just because Hebrew customs are normalized in your culture doesn't make them any less Jewish.
>>748933113fpbp + based>captcha is star of davidsheeeit
>>748960049Concept of what's jewish and what is not changes whenever it's convenient for me
>>748960043The reason Jews have culturally diverse (yet heavily repeating stereotypical surnames) is because up until the rise of European Monarchs, Jews did not use surnames. They had surnames handed to them by the Europeans Monarch census takers as they sought to record every family household within their country (primarily for taxation/conscription purposes).Surnames are not part of Jewish culture so of course they largely don't care what they are, if they did they would have them flow from the Woman in the same way Jewishness is inherited by a child from their mother.
>>748933113FPBPBased/thread
>>748960307A Hebrew custom itself.
>>748960043>>748959887Because Jews left the Roman Empire to Germany and Eastern Europe and took or forced those names on them they are Germanic or Slavic
>>748960630Exactly
one of the myriad things nu/v/ and reddit agree on is sucking off le hecking based Gaben! amirite /v/ros haha? LE bazzingaa!!!
I would never simp for a company that is publicly traded or owned by private equity. Valve is neither of those, therefore I am not going against my beliefs
>>748933038I am not. I left the steam frame reservation queue after reading all of the negative reviews.
>>748937398You can have a defacto monopoly thoMonopoly doesn't mean "I actively try to put everyone down because I'm baaad!!!"Monopoly is not an adjective for mustache twirling evil companiesMonopoly just means you control the market by having a majority of the userbaseUntill Amazon launches it's own, SpaceX has a defacto monopoly on space hauling contracting, there's noone else nigger
>>748960928Valve is legally incapable of going public because of all the scam-adjacent, gamble-adjacent, legally grey and illegal schemes they operate with.Steam can no more meet the transparency requirements to be a public company than any common crypto rugpuller could.
>>748960924he's dying.
>>748960924You are right, but you are on here way too much and let covid era fry your brain.
>>748933038I like Valve but I genuinely have GabeN worship fatigue. He is not le wholesome chungus, he does not develop games pretty much since Half Life 1, he is not involved in making pretty much anything on Steam at this point. Fucking cringe idol worship. You people need God.
>>748933038Gaben is based. he can do no wrong. he can say the N word
>>748933038Steam isn't a monopoly. Amazon is, simple as: Just because leftists fail at maths and can't figure out how much they can spend on making the game a success and make money off of its sales at 30% cut and tax cuts is not my problem. they can suck nigger dicks on their gay orgy island for all I care (none.)
>>748961473>lower prices for customers is le bad.What is the issue here?
>>748961473>one bitch developer bitches like a bitch to mommy>anon, being a bitch, accepts a bitch's testimony as bitch gospelBitch.
>>748933038valve doesnt buy up competitors to put them out of business nor do they push government regulation to make sure no one else can do what they can do
>>748961517No, he just stopped being a fatass. You can do it too.
>>748936653This is only a concern if TVs refuse to work without being connected to the internet and people still buy into that.
>>748933038does gaben actually sell users data to skynet?
>>748961937only thing wrong Valve did was maintain the "can't under-sell against Steam's price point.": not a monopoly, just price-fixing which is harmful but for other reasons.
>>748961990Valve isn't the one putting up the price tag
>>748961990Nah, it just forces those larping activist publishers to pick between money and whatever retarded idealism they conceived
>>748933113fpbp consoletrannies are the ultimate golems of the jews btw
>>748933038He makes something good.They make something evil.
>>748961417You cannot compare a "defacto monopoly" that came into being purely through good service and customer preference the evil kind of monopoly, that actively and malevolently manipulates the market in such a way where competition becomes impossible. Valve isn't doing the latter. If they still count as a monopoly and we do not differentiate between the two, then you have to explain why a "defacto monopoly" is "defacto le bad".
>>748963060Because it cuts into g-d's chosen people's profits
>>748963060>If they still count as a monopolyIt counts as a monopoly because that's what the fucking word meanIf YOU want to ascribe malice to it that is your prerogativeMonopoly just means one party is the sole or majority supplier of goods/servicesIf you are a highscool kid and you associate "monopoly" to all companies that do bad shit to get to the monopoly, and your little brain is unable to separate the actions to get to a monopoly with the monopoly, that's on youYou can get to a monopoly with bad practices, because there's noone else around for prohibitive costs, because nobody WANTS to be around for ethical/personal reasons, whatever
>>748933175Exactly. There’s a bunch of alternatives but they’re mostly shit, by design
I just bought WH40K Mechanicus for £1.24
>>748963060>Valve isn't doing the latter>What is price paritysee >>748961473
I love seeing Epicjeets lash out because EGS was a massive failure and Fortnite is dying.
>>748933038Volvo is one of a few companies that doesn't actively hate customers which is insanely rare these days.And they make nice cars.
>>748933038This image doesn't make senseWhat do people simp about with Steam or Valve?
>>748936764In what way? Elaborate
>>748950074Sorry to hear that, Tim
>>748937460My steam account was hacked.I've kept my CD keys for games like L4D and L4D2, which I can send pictures of to valve and they immediately know that I'm the original owner of the account because those CD keys are from almost 20 years back and there's no way someone could have gotten hold of them after all this time, got it back the same day it was hacked.Always have proof of ownership at hand.
>>748965253Everyone hates corporate drones as much as they hate shills
>>748966315And? What does that have to do with what I asked about the image? What are people simping for?
>>748933113fpbp
>>748933038>company milk you are hard as they legally can, plus a bunch of dubiously-legal stuff:(>company give you okay deals:)Truly impossible to comprehend.
>>748965253They refuse to use epicgames
>>748966681>Implying Valve puts games on salesUhmm, anon. Those games on Steam store. Those are games made by others. You know that right? They do the sales.
>>748937621>you have to select on a UI frame the position you want the tasktbarHOLY SHIT, in windows95 you can just hold click the bar and move the mouse to the side of the screen you want.How can they fuck up this bad??
>>748966814In fact because of price parity they prevent better deals from popping in other stores. Thanks Steam for preventing me customer from getting better deals.
>>748966871Except I see steam code shops routinely selling games for less than they are in the store.
>>748960924
>>748939181not to mention that they literally sell pirated games.Shadow of War has 90% of the game ripped off because they won't provide the online features.
>>748933038gaben actually allows me easy access to games for cheap with regional pricing and refunds.everyone else just wants to fuck me over
>>748937239Same
>>748936196YES I LOVE MY MOVIE GAMES ON GOYSTATION AND MY 15FPS ZELDAS ON MY SHITCHI ALSO LOVE PAYING TO USE BASIC ONLINE FEATURESFUCK GABEN FOR MAKING ALL THOSE THINGS COMPLETELY FREE!!!
>>748933113>The surname Newell is of English, Norman, and Irish origin, meaning "new hall," "new town," or "new hill".Are all of these replies just pretending to be stupid or is this place just that brown now?
>>748966981Nice try but if you try to bypass 30% by using steam keys you'll get booted. You can only use that sparingly while also selling at steam store for the same price. Show me a steam key sale and I'll show you a steam store sale of same price from steam db website.
>>748933113>Top>Jewish>bottom>Not JewishWhy does he act like every single greedy jewish billionaire then?
>>748933113Gabe literally funded Democrats and was on Epstein Island.
>>748937460bullshit, my account gets barraged by attemps every week with IPs from China, Russia and a bunch of other places, never even once valve did anything else other than notifying me about these attempts.
>>748936653Steam collects your real name and location, hardware info and computer activity too though so theyre not selling their hardware at a loss AND getting your data
>>748937925>apple has been selling shitty plastic products for decades at insanely high prices>everyone gobbles it up and worships apple>Valve sells one optional product that can be swapped out by other similar less expensive product that is slightly overpriced>gets a tranny melty over it.you people really deserve the Nintendo rape
>>748933038>topwould scan even your asshole if given the chance>bottomdoesn't even remember if you're old enough to open an adult page
Valve >turns gaming into a gambling serviceSteamies >corporate boot licking intensifies
gotobedtim
>>748969437Are they selling that data though? Because that info they collect is done by literally every company on the planet.
>>748933151But they’ll do anything for Visa and Mastercard. Shut up about how they aren’t following someone else’s instructions.
Ive genuinely, in all my years of seeing steam shitposts, never seen a proper valid reason for all the hate it gets. Like, there are things about valve to hate, but its nothing unique to valve, so why is valve specifically getting the hate? It makes no sense.
>>748933628Reviews are fake
>>748953176nigger, you can run 99.9% of windows software on linux now.And now that LLMs are helping a lot with code, things will just get better.
>comparing gigantic multi-national corporation slop with a small privately owned companyGabe will always be based for not incorporating
>>748969804Every company that accepts CC or DC have to follow their instructions.
>>748969841They should be more restrictive in what gets greenlit, too much garbage is polluting Steam
>>748938765yeah, there are a lot of indians and chinks who try to pull some scam or other shit on Steam and when they get shut down they develop this irrational hatred because they were so used to get away with everything.
>>748969841They committed crimes against gamers, stop trying to make this corporate narrative a reality.
>>748953176>operating system is at fault for third parties not supporting it
the people accusing gaben of being greedy would be 100X worse than him should the roles reverse
>>748969924No it means they are weak, a billion dollar company can’t find alternatives for billing while my local business is offering cash, points and trade.
>>748970029Why is an iToddler posting this? Do you not have any self awareness, you nigger cattle?
>>748970032We can’t support it, closed software stupid. Not Open Source.
>>748970237Are you like retarded or something? You do realize the entirety of western trade and commerce have their payments processed through just two companies yeah? It doesn't matter if Valve is a billion dollar company, if the duopoly denied them service their entire company ceases to exist overnight. Hell they did exactly that to DLsite and those guys only managed to survive by involving the japanese government to process payments through japanese banks completely disconnected from the duopoly.
>>748970319now say it again, in English this time
>>748970274>Ask for why people hate Valve>Get answers on their lawsuits>Insults the anonPcbros don’t get paid i see.
>>748970492you're that chronically online ESL that seethes about valve while giving apple a passkill yourself
>>748970429It’s not Open Source, there’s no possibility to alter the SteamOS. Anon, your fantasy isn’t real.
>>748970620https://store.steampowered.com/steamos>SteamOS is an Arch Linux-based Linux distribution, and all of the base operating system components are open source. fucking jeet idiot
>>748950093>implying they care about autismo loser faggots like youThey want to learn every single way to manipulating the boomers and zoomers to squeeze every single penny out of them, but also how to mindcontrol them into voting for any candidate they deem worthy
literally nothing is stopping other companies from adding the same features that steam offers
>>748970824They read that the Steam client and drivers aren't open source and use that as SteamOS not being open source.
>>748950549>steam sells games at way higher than average prices on israel>lots of hatred towards steam show up out of nowherehmmm, must be a cohencidence.
>>748970908
>>748937398>Microsoft Games For Windows LIVEThat shit still pisses me off. When Fallout 3 was still new, I forget why the fuck I did it, but I bought the expansions through GFWL even though my copy of Fallout 3 was on Steam, and year later when I went to replay the game I found out I no longer had access to my DLC because they had shut that service down.Requiring those DLCs is one of the only times I've bothered to pirate vidya.
>>748950093Funny. However, even in a case such as this I don't want that shart spying on me.
>>748970908there is actually. the main thing steam offers is (you)r entire video game library and play history.
>>748961517you are dying too, bro.
>>748933038You lost, tranny.
>>748933113>Company based on USA>Not jewish
>>748971394It's no use.
>>748971558I still have PTSD from GFWL
>>748969804I am sorry you can't parade around your favorite incest simulator with steam achievements to your "friends" that you goon with. Must suck. Seek Canadian Healthcare.
>>748970824>>748970973Valve didn’t make Arch, Valve did not contribute to Linux. They added their proprietary software on top of Linux. Begone fake Linux user.
>>748974583Isn't valve funding development of proton?
>>748951793
>>748933038why are you a retarded strawmanning kying niggerkike shill?
>>748963339NTA but I see you skipped the part where you explain why it's bad
>>748974679That’s exclusively only for Steam proprietary software that you must download to download games to download game launcher to sign up to corporate America servers account and finally play the games after signing away your rights.It defeats Linux main purpose anon.
>>748933038because Gaben's strategy for keeping my business is doing things I like as opposed to strong arming me assuming I have no other choice
>>748975039????I'm still seeing new proton versions pop up whenever I go to grab the most up to date ones so idk if I believe you.
>>748975089You literally can’t play games that are exclusively on Steam. Yes, Valve is forcing you to choose them or be a pirate
>>748951793>they are not closed systems that rely on overpriced exclusives and forcing paid subscriptions onto the consumer30% pure profit on every game sale on the highest volume software sales platform on the planet. From a company that employs at most 300 people, creates no games, has only hosting costs and makes minimal changes to their core product (a game launcher).
>>748975347ProtonGE is not Steam Proton, creator literally telling you in the page:> This is my build of Proton with the most recent bleeding-edge Proton Experimental Wine.Steam Proton doesn’t support NVIDA, ProtonGE has a working prototype for NVIDA.They’re not the same.
>>748933038valve funds linux gaming and hates microsofttheyre not perfect but i also hate microsoftwish they didnt increase steam deck price cuz i wanna buy one but im poor lol
>>748975643>guy gets paid to make proton versions for steam>also puts out a better experimental version for everyoneI'm confused why I'm supposed to be mad at steam here. You even frame the GE version as straight up better, and I know its better because GE runs my games better.
>>748970419>that DLsite shitwhy the fuck is it even allowed for visa and mastercard to deny someone service or make demands of their clients? you can't say "it's a private company lol fug u they can do what they want" and then make it completely necessary for 99% of digital payments to go through one of them
>>748975941After 9/11 the US government effectively deputized payment processors because the terrorists involved made payments via their services. Ergo CC processors CAN tell you what you can or cannot purchase because the US government gave them that authority during their crackdowns on freedoms in exchange for illusionary protection against terrorism.
>>748936524
>>748974875Because this shit has been dragged into the console wars fueled by schizos that attach every retarded take they can because they want to argue why Steam/Valve is bad compared to their system of choice.
>>748933113>Hey Ubisoft/other big publisher. You can't sell your own games on your website cheaper than us, if you want to keep your games on Steam.Literally jewish tricks and destroying fair competition.
>>748975683>>748975908Steam only paid Wine devs for a game version of Wine. Valve didn’t create Wine or Proton. Community then added support by uploading data, versions are based on users who play their games. There’s no way to actually fix other games on Steam’s Proprietary Proton.This is why alternatives like ProtonGE exist. Know the correct history Pcbros.
>>748976978>phone filename
>>748933038>TopPay us more in exchange for us abusing you slightly less, you filthy disgusting stupid loathsome soulless money cattle FUCK YOU SHUT UP PAY ME PAY ME PAY ME PAY ME>BottomWe will literally provide you with a good service in exchange for monetary compensation.I will LITERALLY give my money to a corporation in exchange for satisfactory goods and services that are worth the asked for price. I will LITERALLY perform an exchange at a reasonable rate. I will LITERALLY not act against my best interests just because doing so would benefit someone who is richer than I am. I will LITERALLY not become angry and self-destructive just because I envy someone else's wealth. You cannot stop me.
>>748977367They literally have lawyers defending their gambling interests instead of allowing us to buy it. That’s abuse anon.
>>748976978Its weird that your pic is trying to pull a "you don't own your property and you will be happy" type spin. But the entire point of Valve saying that is because they encourage veteran linux users to customize their valve hardware with whatever distro they want. Its saying "hey this distro is retardproofed for n00bs but if you know what you are doing use your favorite distro."
>>748933113the jews wish they were like gaben
>>748974583>Valve didn’t make Archcorrect, so?>Valve did not contribute to Linuxthey constantly contribute to it, faggot>They added their proprietary software on top of Linux. so?>Begone fake Linux user.post fastfetch, jeet
>>748977476What is this referring to? CS knife lootboxes?
>>748975039you don't have to even download steam to use proton, you fucking jeet>>748975643>Steam Proton doesn’t support NVIDA,what retardation is this?also>NVIDAfucking brownoid jeet can't even spell
>>748940480Because you can still download versions with drm removed if they shutdown. Nintendo and Sony have shutdown 6 stores in the last 15 years.
>>748933038Amazon literally has fake chink reviews and anybody who makes a website to point that at gets taken down like fakespot. Meanwhile steam lets you filter out reviews from thirdworld countries.
>>748976047It's so fucking funnyMost delusional man on /v/ is still less delusional than people like these
>>748978543they give reviewers free stuff but the reviews are copy pasted by people living in poverty, i met one of the people that does that stuff and she was a huge black woman in the projects and they had me contantly delivering 20+ things to her house for FREE
>>748933113kek gotem
>>748933038amazon used to be good, now it just feels like american temu. I only order a single thing from there because i literally cannot find it anywhere around me
>>748970908What features? A forum which valve devs shut down discussion they don't like?
i just spend 500 bucks on amazon buying random shit i dont need
>>748980910>valve devsare you under the impression that valve employees are moderating every single game?
>>748980968>someone asks a genuine question of concern on the steam forums>valve dev shuts down the thread without even addressing the question at all
>>748933113all those kikes seethin holy shit
>>748981210>187 posts of off topic arguingDeserved
>>748981325So why didn't the dev just answer the question? Clearly people want to know and its a big concern for a lot of people. This is literally what forums are for.
>>748981391kek imagine being this giga retard and not noticing the no text replies
>>748981210>https://steamcommunity.com/app/1422450/discussions/0/4431066036849828649/forum of WHAT GAME, FAGGOT?this is by no means an on topic post, it's just another retarded dogwhistle to sperg out
>>748981551>someone asks if a notorious grifter consultation company has been working with this game>a totally reasonable question as many people have a problem with them>Valve dev themselves shuts down the discussion>doesn't even answer the question just proving the fact that if they are working with them (they are) it is seen as a problem
>>748933113>made the retards seetheBased.
>>748981663the entire thread is some turkroach sperging out because a game that's still in fucking beta doesn't have credits fully fleshed outhe deserved it, he went into it wanting a specific answer to his political sperging and he melted down when he didn't get it
>>748981890>nooo its totally not discussion>everything I don't like doesn't countSo what's the point of a forum if Valve shuts down any real discussions?
>>748982150>real discussion is when you don't talk about the game
>>748982246>asks a question about the development of the game>not a discussionHow come valve is so afraid to answer the question?
>>748982418>ask a question that will be answered when the game is out>get mad because no one is taking you seriously and can see through your undisguised attempt to sperg out about politics
>>748976047>We tried to beat that one aluminum factory in selling aluminum>We tried everything! Buying ice cream, swiping floors with a wooden stick, 3D printing dildos - everything!>Nothing worked!>The secret was that the aluminum factory was selling aluminum and we didn't>Goddamit, should've known!
>>748982503>ask a question that will be answered when the game is outNo? They refuse to answer it.Tell me again, why couldn't the dev just said "No/Yes" there, give me a single justification outside of them trying to hide it.
>>748981210>crops out the 186 posts of what is presumably off topic flamewar faggotry
>>748981551>Dogwhistle
>>748933182>>748933038>private company completely in control by Gabe Newell, zero obligation to shareholders and board of directors>jewish
>>748982705because it's valve, faggot, they have no reason to answer anything, there's nothing you can pay for and you're not even supposed to be able to play it
>>748982740So asking a genuine concerning question about the development and the devs refusing to answer is shitposting?How is the steam forums any different from Reddit when the mods just delete anything they don't like?
>>748982740Post #187
>>748982863got a link to the thread?
>>748982942Someone posted a link 20 minutes ago
>>748933038because humans are a deeply unserious species with no actual principles
>>748982740>>748982863So Valve devs should just shut down 99% of the discussion on the steam forums as they all turn out like this?Or is it just like reddit where they just shut down stuff they don't like?You also refuse to answer why Valve is unable to answer with a simple no or yes for such a simple question. Clearly that discussion is needed if valve themselves are afraid to answer.
>>748982823>>748983025Nigger the guy who made the fucking thread started whining that people in it were going off topic lmao.
>>748933038Probably because the top do remarkably more evil things without providing anything of value? I mean even amazon today is like 90% chink shit that'll break on you
>>748983084Yeah like every fucking dissucssion everywhere on the Internet including this very thread? Stop goalposting and answer the question.What's the different between the Steam forums and Reddit if the mods just delete anything they don't personally like?Why is Valve unable to answer such a simple question that many want answered? Why are they hiding the fact they are working with Sweet baby inc?
>>748981551>thread lasts for over half a month>OP complains that posters are getting off topic>3/4ths of the way through the thread stops talking about SBI and starts talking about what white culture is
>>748983354So why was Valve unable to answer the question? and see above >>748983229You are just acting like reddit mods atm
>>748983387why does valve have to answer questions about a game where absolutely fucking nothing is at stake?
>>748983387Valve employees probably don't give a shit and some forum janny noticed an off topic thread and nuked it for being off topic.Pro-tip buddy: SBI lists the games they worked on within their website. The only Valve game they have claimed to work on is some Dota minigame lmao.
>>748983459Because it's their game.Lots of people have a problem with Sweet Baby Inc and wants to know if they worked with themIt would help to prevent any confusing or speculation like >>748983483I ask again. Why did a Valve dev shut down the thread instead of just saying "yes/no" or even better say yes or no and then close down the thread?Why are they hiding the fact they are working with them if it's no a concern?
>>748933113>bottom>not jewish>literally banning japanese games for having problematic "too sexy and erotic" contentlol
steamie cultist thread, fat jew corpo death soon
>>748983557Because the employee doesn't give a shit. You think some janny is going to waste his time humoring a random discussion?
>>748983557why should they? the game isn't out and you can't pay for anythingif anything it helps to filter out neurotic schizos that are desperate to find excuses to hate everything
>corpos banning japanese games>WTF I'M NEVER BUYING THERE AGAIN KILL YOURSELF>steam banning japanese games>"w-well it can't be helped, it's not their fault, stop being a pedo chud, I don't really care about censorship, etc"
>>748983641Because of integrity and concerns? You are just proving that Valve(and gaben) is peak jew shit with these arguments.>n-no the goyim is better off not knowing! we have nothing to hide goyim but we refuse to answer still!
>>748983687>>748983568Dude just look at this thread, they are defending the fact that Valve shuts down any discussion about Sweet Baby Inc and they "don't owe you anything so they don't have to answer or show any integrity!"
>>748933038Gaben isn't a kike. Gaben makes a simple, good product. Gaben does not take and sell my data. Gaben is not trying to build a mass surveillance network.Gaben has never considered making his company public and beholden to """shareholders""". Why wouldn't I like him?
>>748983696>they're jewish for... giving you a free game where you can't spend money even if you wanted tololno, the reality is that you're retarded and you're desperately fishing for excuses to seethe
>>748933038>steam>big tech companythey got like 300 people and its privately owned, literal indie company
>>748983830No they are jewish for working with the single wort company in gaming that ruins all games for the sake of wokeness and they try and hide the fact like rats.
>be me>valve discussion janny>going through my 500 report tickets>cock in hand whacking off>get to latest ticket>open thread>WHAT IS WHITE CULTURE BROWNOID?!>delete thread for being off topic>move onto report ticket #524meanwhile, on a random /v/ thread>VALVE NUKED THIS TOTALLY LEGIT THREAD WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US!?
>>748983901see? you're not getting an answer and you automatically assume the answer is yes
>>748934010>Valve themselves support DEI lmaoProve it, you dumb shitskin. lmao
>>748983928>NOO SAAR IT WAS BAD DISCUSSION REDDI- I MEAN STEAM MODS MAKE GOOD WORK SAAR!>p-please ignore the fact that they never remove 99.999% of all the off-topic discussions or flamewar on the forums, but just this one particular one pointing out how they are working with Sweet baby inc!
>>748933038>topPublicly traded>bottomPrivately ownedThat said, privately owned doesnt mean not talmudic piece of shit, however publicly traded ENTAILS being talmudic pieces of shit. I expecte gaben to either retire soon or be forced out through jewish tactics
>>748933038When are other companies going to let me do this?
>>748935095You used a whole lot of broad, non-specific words there. What does Steam do that's anti-consumer? Be specific and don't dodge the question.
>>748984090doctored screencap valve loves DEI plz delet
>>748933038Gaben's steam is a good service that treats customers well, is hated by rich turbopedos (the ones that aren't playing on steam themselves anyway) and so on. You have an argument if you aim for "What will you do when Gaben dies?" because we're all mortal, even he is. I for one think Steam will quickly become pure ass and become shareholder hell once he's heading towards his new game+. But when he's around? It's a good service.
>>748984020NTA but>bought the most woke company out there(Campo Santo)>bans "problematic" anime games on steam>hire pro BLM activist devs>worked with fucking Sweet Baby Inc>LGBT+ sales>their advertisement consist of people like>Gaben personally calls people "assholes" because they made a harmless joke about chinese>participates in #metoo culture >look at Deadlock character design
>>748984039This guy gets it. I hope it'll remain good and private at least while Gaben is around and well.
>>748984154>Gaben the guy that donates money to rich turbopedos is hated by turbopedos>Gaben the guy that WORKS with THE pedo company (Sweet baby inc) is hated by themWhy are VaIvedrones like this?
>>748933175Exactly, you don't.
>>748984175>bans "problematic" anime games on steamEh not really. There are loli porn games on steam right now. More likely its CC processors giving it the no go (one of the rules of any new game upload is it passing their CC's rules.)
>>748984352Stop defending the kikes and make up lies. They don't allow games that was release on fucking sony consoles
>>748984175>bought the most woke company out there(Campo Santo)And did what with them?>bans "problematic" anime games on steamI literally see a million porn games on Steam at any given moment. The fact that I can buy this on Steam means you're a retarded faggot.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2429860/Living_With_Sister_Monochrome_Fantasy/>hire pro BLM activist devs>worked with fucking Sweet Baby IncAgain, doing what with any of them? You're just saying words without pointing to things Steam has actually done or produced.>LGBT+ salesThey do anything sales, you stupid fucking shitskin.>their advertisement consist of people likeValve hired some third party company to make an ad. Valve themselves did not make that. They should have had more oversight on what was being made, but if this is the only concrete thing you have, then you have no point.>Gaben personally calls people "assholes" because they made a harmless joke about chineseChinks pour money into Steam. Keeping the bugs happy is smart business.>participates in #metoo cultureHow so? Be specific. >look at Deadlock character designNever played it but all I see is people posting some goblin thing they want to fuck.
>>748984467>>748984352>>748984512
>>748984175They're going to ignore all that and will call you pajeet shitskin and use mental gymnastics lmao. This board is full of valve drones ironically enough PC as a platform is most popular in shitskin countries too lmao. Nigger tranny worship by Valve is very based because...it just is!
>>748984548>>748984467>>748984352
>>748984512>Valve hired some third party company to make an adI'll bite this one, post some proof of this or are you just talking out of your ass?Unless you can give a proper response to this I know all you say is bullshit and you're a paid shill..
>>748984548>Too sexy for SteamThen explain why games like this are up? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1933660/Demons_Roots/Again, don't dodge the question and post another worthless tweet. Address what I'm saying directly.
>>748984704The burden of proof is not on me anon, the fact is that Valve remove anime games because they consider it too problematic. Games that even fucking SONY allows.
>>748967563How was your argument debunked before it was posted? >>748960630
>>748984790both sony and nintendo have censored gamesin the end steam has more porn games than they both have combined
>>748984671>post some proof of thisThey don't have a marketing team, you fucking retard. What makes you think Valve actually made that? When have you seen Valve post a job opening for someone in marketing or something related? Which person here do you think made that ad?https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/people>>748984790>The burden of proof is not on meActually, it is, you fucking retard. You said Valve bans sexy games. I've posted multiple games about fucking lolis. You're objectively wrong. You have no leg to stand on.
>>748984872Still not seeing any proof Kumar, show me who Valve hired for that ad. You are just speculating which means everything you says is just pure bullshit.
>This fucking threadYour favorite company won't love you no matter how much you hate another company you fucking retardsMods just ban everyone here
>>748983928Valve won't even pay for content moderation of games. Assuming competency in forum moderation is a huge assume.
>>748984926>Still not seeing any proof KumarI'm white with blue eyes. You're not. I literally posted a list of Valves employees. Where do you see marketing people who would make an ad? Valve literally does not have a department for that. You are an idiot shitskin monkey.
>>748984932>Mods just ban everyone here
>>748984932You are wrong, Nintendo loves me. More than my absent parents ever did.
>>748984926>You are just speculatingHe posted a list of employees and their departments showing that there is literally no marketing people who could make an ad. That's not speculation. You insisting they made it internally is pure speculation.
>>748985031>>748985113Post proof, I don't care about your mental gymnastic speculation. You really think Valve has NO CONTROL over the ads they have?
>>748984790>>748984827To be fair to both sides, Nintendo and Sony are censoring products to protect their brand, Visa and Mastercard are censoring products just because they can.
>>748933113lmaoo
>>748969890An emulated buggy approximation, perhaps. And only after wrestling with a carefully constructed WINE prefix with all the correct dependencies and fonts installed. Get real, anon. If it was so great, literally everyone would be using it right now. This happened with Firefox back in '05 or so. Internet Explorer was so bad, Mozilla solidly commanded a big chunk of the browser market. And it didn't even come preinstalled on people's computers. Imagine that!>>748970032Indeed. Remember the Steve Ballmer clip? "Developers, developers, developers, developers!" Microsoft built a consistent desktop platform to develop business software on, and that's why they've been successful in spite of all the butthurt heard the world over. And since all you "niggers" pirated the shit out of Windows, they resorted to changing the business model into a data harvesting one. Sucks to suck, but you did it to yourselves. Same with abandoning physical games for Steam and the like. You get what you deserve.
>>748985173aren't you the same retard who wants people to assume valve is hiring jeets because they can't do all that work alone? and now you're mad when your logic is turned against you?
>>748933038Valve is not a publicly traded company. It has no shareholders.Next question
>>748985437>>748961473
>>748985267>Get real, anon. If it was so great, literally everyone would be using it right now. you get real firstwindows has inertia, it comes preinstalled on everything and all its problems are external, like nvidiait's objectively a pile of shit, it's just a well known pile of shit
>>748966835linux still has no thumbnails when downloading filessit down
>>748985173>You really think Valve has NO CONTROL over the ads they have?I know you're a subhuman cum guzzling shitskin faggot that has no knowledge of business, playing video games or the English language, so I'll walk you through what I said again slowly.>>748984512>Valve hired some third party company to make an ad. Valve themselves did not make that. They should have had more oversight on what was being made, but if this is the only concrete thing you have, then you have no point.I explicitly said them having more oversight was their one failing in that list that was posted, which means I don't think they have "NO CONTROL" over their ad. What you explicitly tried arguing against was the idea that they didn't make it in house. I showed you the employee and department list. They literally do not have a marketing team to make shit like that internally. You are objectively wrong. Moving the goalposts and pretending we're not arguing that, but instead that I'm arguing they have no control (when I already said the opposite) won't make you any less of a retarded shitskin monkey.
>>748985267satya's strongest warrior
>>748985507going to continue to use steam, sorry!>b-but they paid me to convince you-i know i know but............. .IM STILL GOING TO USE STEAM HAHHAHHAHHAH
>>748985437>valve does nigger worship and troons on their own and free will>thats actually based because its not jewish shareholders telling em to do that!kek
>>748985507you should stop spamming this until you get the result you want, considering how long it's taking your chances are dwindlingright now you're just a jeetcel having a melty
>>748985412Valve hire indians tho, the VP is an indian.There's a reason Gaben loves AI so much
>>748985554Post some proof, I don't care about your random speculation no matter how much you speculate.This is like watching 12 angry men.
>>748985623no, you've already been linked the actual list of employeesjeets stealing credit on your gay aggregators don't count
>>748985623>Gaben loves AIHe loves AI so much that he wants every customer to know when AI is being used in the games he's selling.
>>748985706So you are saying that Shreya Liu is not working at Valve?And the list you posted had like 30 people, Valve has 300+ people working for them. They are not listing everyone.
Any indiedev who has gone through the Steam submission approval process knows in their bones that Steam is an Indian operated platform.
>>748985812Gaben litearlly pushed AI before it was cool to do with the Dota AI shit.He invested lots of money in it and has fucking gone out saying to stop hating on it.Or are you now going to something tell me that Gaben is lying and that he hates AI?
>>748935524Koa- *cough* *cough* -kuma, please stop smo- *cough* -king my asthma is... *cough* where is my inhaler koa???
>>748985849see, now you're the one that wants to be believed at face value, >valve apparently hires random jeets that aren't listed on the valve website but they're super important i swearkill yourself, faggot, you wouldn't know consistency if it hit you in the face
>>748985991Shreya Liu is listed on their site and is the VP...
>>748985812he's also going to brand everyone who gets one his brain chips.
>>748985991So why are they not listing all their employees there then? What about the rest of the 200+ workers not listed there?
>>748986156>Shreya Liu is listed on their sitecongratulations, you conceded by admitting there's just 1>and is the VP...according to?>>748986236if jeets are so important to valve then why aren't they listed there, faggot?would it hurt you to have to actually think things through?reminder that your source is third party sources where jeets can claim to be valve employees>>748985706
>>748985918The headline only says young people will have to use AI because it will be a thing in the future. There is not a trace of approval here. You should take a look at the images you're posting.
>>748986398Except the fact he donated money to AI, was like the first person to push AI with Open AI in fucking 2017?
>>748984175james was an unfunny retard glorified by redditimagine being so much of a retard gabe (weird ass bronie nigga) find you repulsing and retardedthat retard learned his lesson so well that he now talks like a raped victim
>>748984704>>748984872I know you didn't even play the game, but it's COMPLETELY censored, and there's not a single spicy scene in it because you need to download a patch from Kagura to play it, lmao.This is how people have to play with Steam cucks, download a patch that's bigger than the main game from outside their store just to play it uncensored.
>>748986481>NOOO HE WAS MEAN AGAINST MINORITIES HE'S AN ASSOr Gaben is just super woke if he gets offended by a guy even Reddit finds ok?
>>748984704>>748984872>>748986489I'm just waiting for the shill to come up with mental gymnastics to defend this.
>>748985703>shitskin literally can't read English and just keeps repeating himself while never making a point or even understanding the argumentUnfortunately a common sight here as of late.
>>748985604>LGBT + service sucks assvs>LGBT + service is actually goodtough choice
>>748986476Source?
>>748986156>Shreya Liu is listed on their site and is the VP...VP of hardware production, not VP of Valve, you fucking idiot.
>>748986905https://gamerant.com/valve-gabe-newell-openai-donation/
>>748986489>screaming about how Steam censors games and spamming images showing games on GoG>posts a patch that applies to the Steam and GoG versionsWhat do you think you accomplished by posting this?>This is how people have to play with Steam cucksDownloading a patch? This is your big gotcha moment?
>>748987082>he donated money to AI development when it was new and nobody knew how it would turn outBig shrug.
>>748986476you do know that openAI used to be an actual non profit organisation that wasn't apart of this corporatist shit, right?
>>748987268No he does not. And he certainly doesn't know what their original mission statement was.
>>748987205Nigger, you were arguing that Steam allows sexy games, and then you posted a game that had 90% of its content cut/censored and is only playable as intended with an external patch OUTSIDE STEAM. Lmao.Maybe don't try to dig your own grave by posting that next time.
>>748985517Dell tried preinstalled Ubuntu a long time ago. Failed miserably. Either way, my point still stands. Firefox wasn't preinstalled, yet people happily installed it over using IE. Most Linux distros are nearly as easy to install as a browser, yet hardly anyone does. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because many have TRIED to use it and the software failed to meet their needs? Nah, couldn't be that. Everyone must be stupid or something.>>748985576Not gonna lie, I appreciate Mr. Nadella for putting such a big emphasis on accessibility since he took over. (I think he has a blind relative.) The screen reader and magnifier were terrible on Windows 8.1 and before. Now, I don't have to contend with the abomination that is Zoomtext and JAWS. Narrator has everything I need built in. I wish I could say the same for Gnome or KDE, but their accessibility is only ever consistently broken.
>>748987715>Nigger, you were arguing that Steam allows sexy gamesTake a look at the post I was replying to specifically>>748984548Don't just gloss over it. Actually read the text in it.>Maybe don't try to dig your own grave by posting that next time.Maybe read the posts people are replying to instead of inventing goalposts in your head, you fucking retard.
>>748987859>a long time agoso before linux started actually taking off in the desktop space?why should your opinion be taken seriously if you still live in such an old paradigm?
>>748987918>steam allow sexy games and fucking lolis>no they don't, you need a patch outside steam for that>huh? but what about GOG? and lol it's just a patch!!! who cares that the game I said was allowed is 100% censored without external patches?You are genuinely retarded and low IQ for pretending to act dumb like that.
