Every update they make the game more annoying to play. They nerf everything and make everything suck. A lot of the stuff in this game is just agonizing and tedious and takes hours to get anything done. The devs are really retarded. It’s not even “challenge” either it is just trying to make the game as annoying as possible. They massively nerfed cars recently and made them absolutely worthless
>>748938148Let's see you do better, retardfaggot. Actually let's see you make anything at all.
>>748938148>Still no ammo crafting >>748938249Hey, dev. Pic related.
>>748938249That retarded military guy you hired is making the game worse
How long do you think it would take AI to decomp a java game and port it to a real engine?
>>748938508did you see the interview a few months back? The new director is excited to put his own pet project into the game. That's right, months of dev time is going towards a new negative trait, diabetes. They are spending dev time to add blood sugar, and no, I'm not joking.
>>748938249devs will say this then shit themselves when people make their own games with the AI slop machines
>>748938148>This is a zombie game where you're expected to play for hundreds of hours on a single character just to make baseball bats and wooden wallsOh okay, grindy game huh? Not bad, I guess if you die you just reload your save>Oh there's no save/load systemWhy the fuck not?>Because this is a game where you're expected to die in a few hoursBut you just said you're supposed to last a long time? Wouldn't dying quickly basically cut you off from 90% of ingame content?>Oh lol you'll see 90% of it in the first few hours, the last 10% is just spending IRL days just to make caveman tier equipmentSo it's a game where you are expected to die quickly, but also where you're expected to tediously grind for entire real life days, and there's no save system at all>Pretty much, oh right I forgot to mention the 500 hour wait to harvest hempWhat the fuck!
>>748938249>You can't judge my art! I haven't seen YOU paint a picture!>AI gens Big Tiddy Krystal Fox>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
>>748938815why are you thinking about it this much? lol it aint that deep bro just turn your brain off
>>748938860uh bro AI generation is literally oppressing LGBT allies minorities immigrants and other endangered folk ?
>>748938148Idk but it has the most retarded player base. I mean how are 40,000 people playing this crap longer than a few hours? This shit should have died 10 years ago.
If you go on Reddit people suck off the devs so hard. The ironic thing is the devs have a bazillion dollars and they still use this tiny team and make tiny updates that take forever to make. The devs don’t respect you at all and are just doing the absolute bare minimum work possible when they could very easily just hire some massive team to make the game much faster and better
>>748938861>Just don't think about what media you interact withNo, no I don't think I'll do that. I'll continue to judge, criticize and complain as much as I wish. Lmao.>>748938935Good, lol
>>748938815The world is the main character, not your character. You stockpile the xp books and level 15x as fast. >but mah innawoods skillsare completely useless until multiple years into the game. Everyone claims to get bored because they can not mentally handle the simulation. You will run out of food eventually, and gasoline. That's when you finally start playing the game.
>>748939169There's fuck all to do aside from skill-grinding. The world becomes retarded if you start a new character, what, was he in a 6 month coma in his house or some shit?
>>748938148It is pretty ridiculous how quickly the entire "zombie" thing becomes irrelevant. By the end of the first week you have secured a base with food, weapons, and probably a car. Once the perimeter is cleared out you won't ever get bothered by zombies again except for a few stragglers making their way over; yes there's the helicopter event but it only happens once on default settings. Then it's just a huge "....well now what?". Sure you can spend ages grinding stats but there is no goal as zombies never get any stronger and as the player becomes a walking machine of death zombies are just an annoyance rather than something to be feared. Sure hope you like chopping wood to build a nice cabin by the river because that's the only long term goal there is.
>>748939550And inevitably you WILL die from some bullshit like a zombie hiding behind a cabinet due to shitty LOS checks, or falling through a roof because the tiles aren't solid, or putting a toe in a campfire and igniting like you're make of fuel, or....
>>748938249In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on positive feedback, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, we are just shitposters.But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the snark and critique of the *bad*. anons are often unkind to honest critics. anons needs friends. Last night, I experienced something bad: an extraordinarily bad update from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the game and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about how shit an update can be is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core.
>>748939783suck my dick, pretentious little bitch
>>748938678>>748938860>bbbbut AIyou will never create
>>748938249how would I know the minutia of the games flaws so well in the first place? The biggest fans are the biggest critics.
>>748939783Would love to suck a lot of shit out of her ass like its a big brown spaghetti
>hey you need to watch TV and read these 30 books to get this thingWhy can't I just go down to the local shop, that's completely untouched, and grab it there?>WHAT, WHAT WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BECAUSE YOU JUST CANT OKAY. YOU. JUST. CANT. THATS NOT THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME. YOU KNOW WHAT HERES ANOTHER UPDATE THAT NERFS A BUNCH MORE SHIT AND ADDS 60 MORE BOOKS YOU HAVE TO READ BECAUSE FUCK YOU OKAY. GAME DEV IS HARD BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU
>>748938249KEK BASED
>>748940224Lemmy why are blunt weapons so much better than anything else in the game? >FUCK YOU, THAT'S WHY! NOW I AM GOING TO MAKE BASEBALL BATS REQUIRE MASTER LEVEL CARVING TO MAKE! AND I AM GOING TO NERF SHARP WEAPONS EVEN MORE!
>spearslmao
>>748940662you need point blank mod
>>748938148>They massively nerfed cars recently and made them absolutely worthlessIts the ragdoll effects for zeds. You can still run through small hordes. Just make sure you're going fast to kill them on the first go.
>>748943612Are ragdolls working in MP?
>>748943657Yeah. My bros and I already cleared out Muldraugh and we're using that one farm house as our base. We're good on food, medicine, and enough gear to equip a small army. Right now we're expanding out and clearing more shit. Today I started on the train yard.
>>748943785A screenshot that isn't some AGP bimboThat's fucking rare for 4chan zomboid
>>748938148Boring dogshit, valheim mogs
>>748944497Thanks bro.
>>748938148Nothing wrong with standing on the right side of history, chuds could never understand
>>748944763Axeman is sort of acceptable because that's not a real thing.But repairman and fisherman are real jobs and hobbies. Why the fuck would you rename already gender-neutral terms? Women can in fact be fishermen because man/men means human.
>>748938249Fix your broken gun overhaul already Lemmy.No one asked for it and it still sucks, not touching your brokeass game again until it's unfucked.
>>748938148At least we haven't reached the malicious incompetence stage yet, still have a few more years before it goes the way of 7dtd.
>>748938148>Does zomboid have the most retarded devs ever?Does getting your source code 'stolen' twice count?
>>748938148Yes, there's people out there that regularly decompile the game and fix shit like the busted "car stops after hitting two+ zombies in a group" bug.>that's a featureNo, that's retarded, they fucked something up and don't know how to fix it, I refuse to be gaslit on this as that's simply too retarded to be an intended feature.
>>748945131While they're at it, can they fix the 'zombies spew acid blood at your car when you're near hordes' bug?Zombies do chip damage, until magically when you're just NEAR zombies, then their presence melts your car.
>>748938648>mods it outnothing personnel kid
I don't understand the fanbase of this game. Everyone acknowledges it's dogshit but they'll fight tooth and nail to defend it and the retarded decisionmaking by the devs.
>>748945360Because B40 was fun, B41 was still good, and B42 was all the dumb decisions they'd made over the years metastasizing into a giggatumor of really stupid shit.
I miss when you could use a shotgun to mow down hundreds of zombies easily. Now guns are retarded to use.
>>748945360i feel like most the people who have enjoyed this game acknowledge it has serious flaws and the dev team is maliciously retardedthere are a handful of shills though, especially on this board, that defend it no matter what and get noticeably angry at any criticism
>>748938815Play Cataclysm genuinely, at least there is meaningful progression beyond week 1
>>748939934you guys didnt make the game though?your compiler did :)
I wish I could play the game without knowing how shit it is again
>>748938148I'm glad they nerf stuff so it filters out the adhd zoomer casuals.
>>748945614Nah lol the shills are all on steam discussions
>>748944897None of it is acceptable. Retarded behavior is retarded, doesn't matter if it aligns with being sort of justifiable once in a blue moon.
>>748950440And as we know, Indie Stone is full of retards!
It's a game with no objective beyond endlessly grinding. You take the grinding out and there's no game.
>>748950490Grinding isn't a game, grinding is an excuse you make to pad out the lack of game.So what you're saying is Zomboid is pretty fucking empty, which it is.
>>748938148>plebs whining on every action games on why they didn't play and control like Skyrim
>>748938359stick to fallout 4 you retard
>>748938148I wouldn't mind the grindy challenge part so much if your character wasn't so gimped from the start. You basically need to grind for hours to actually meaningfully interact with any deeper mechanics in the game.
>>748950647You are aware that people reload casings IRL, right?
>>748950529They should add NPCs that can raid you or that can trade with you, maybe some late game monsters too. They could've added something that eats the corpses too
Zombie game design peaked 20 years ago with The Last Stand.>days spent gathering resources and fortifying/repairing your base>nights spent defending against the hordeShrimple as.
>>748938249it's funny because it's been in early access long enough to start working a jobso many anons could've made their own zomboidsor even a son that grew up to start making their own zomboidbut instead we sit and complain about the old zomboid some bong made on a laptop
>>748952906>Build my new PC>Intel has israel backdoors>AMD has israel backdoors>OY VEY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, JUST START UP YOUR OWN LITHOGRAPHY SUPERFACTORY AND DESIGN YOUR OWN CPU, GOY!
>>748952971>>Build my new PCso you're saying you have all the tools needed to make a better zomboid and choose not to
>>748950529Yes.
>>748938148i tried playing it but it became so boring, doing anything is extremely tedious, ou could spend 6 hours ingame just draging some nials and planks to board up your house, randomly you start losing health for no fucking reason and your character is depressed, worst 4€ i ever spend
>>748953017We all technically have the materials to make a better zomboid. But that's not our fucking job, that's TIS's job because they've already taken our money.When you go to the restaurant and the chef burns your steak, you don't go home and cook up your own out of spite lmao. Fucking retard.
>>748953083>chef burns my steak fifteen years ago>refuse to ever make steak until the chef un-burns it or refunds meyou are not making a serious argument
>>748950990>They should add NPCswe'll get right on it
>>748953150You're not using analogies properly, this is an early access steak that takes an arbitrary amount of time to be cooked, and you can consume it while it is in the process of being fully cooked with the expectations that it won't be perfect yet. But that it WILL be perfect eventually.Zomboid-steak has no intention of becoming properly cooked, the chef is on holiday for mental health reasons, and retards like (you) are defending the whole thing on a racist imageboard lmao.
>>748953216i at no point have defended zomboidi am telling you to abandon it and make something better because it wouldn't have taken you 15 yearsyou fell for a scam and are complaining publicly about it like one of us is going to go get you a refund personally
>>748953321It's a scam, yeah. Hence I am telling people how much of a scam it is.Agreed?>One of usHi Lemmy, lmao.
>>748953396>I am telling people how much of a scam it is.yo you guys look out for nigerian princes this one totally tricked me into sending all my money to himyou arent actually warning anyone about the forever early access game>Hi Lemmy, lmao.schizophrenia
>>748953505Still going to shit-talk the game.
>>748938148They aren’t retarded, they know their autistic fanbase will buy and play no matter how terrible the game is. It’s a Bethesda style of “we don’t need to finish implementing anything, the modders will do it for us”
driving in louisville SUCKS
>>748954913>Installs shitload of car mods>WTF why are streets full of cars???
Next major patch is adding NPCs
>>748955075Sure! Although you neglected to mention that'll be in 7 years.
>>748955075I'll be a woman by then
>>748938148Never play on base setting, they're shit. Sandbox all the way.
>NPC survivors with relationships and emergent stories, the return of our original characters Kate and BaldspotFinally
So Update 42 took them like 2 years. Fallout New Vegas was made in 18 months.
>>748955508Update 42 also isn't actually complete yet, they moved a lot of shit to the next build, and outright cut shit they promised to add.Also, B42 took 4 years (and counting) to actually release.
>>748955508bad example since new vegas is basically just a mod for fallout3 using the same engine and assets etc
>>748956365NV doesn't use much assets from FO3, it reuses SOME, but most of it was completely new.
>During Project Zomboid’s long history there have been periods where updates have been too spread out. In recent times, however, we have hired, restructured and built new internal pipelines to address this - and intend to improve service greatly in future.So what does this mean
>>748956676It means they fired everyone lately, replaced them with jeets, and we're STILL not going to get any updates.
>>748938595That's already kind of happening anon. Imagine spending over a decade making your isometric Java-jank zombie-sims game only to have your community vibecode it into 3D.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV2e2K4aQ6s
>>748938148>A lot of the stuff in this game is just agonizing and tedious and takes hours to get anything doneWasn't that the appeal of the game from the start?In 2013 the game wasn't agonizing and tedius?
>>748957809The worst thing is this stupid game is only isometric because when it was originally made, it was supposed to be way more simple and an isometric perspective lets you cut like 75% of the environment from needing to be made.Except now we have so much stupid scope creep that we have to specifically headshot zombies.In an isometric gameWhere Z-clipping and other bullshit issues are rampant.Yeah lets require precise melee angles, in a game where we have no fucking depth perception.
>>748956676they fired all the special snowflakes that were taking 8 months long vacations for mental health reasons and replaced them with jeets
People keep saying “add npcs” but most people don’t know the game is so poorly made it’s basically impossible to add NPCs to the game unless they are completely brain dead and zero intelligence
>>748958591Based, posting the interview/posts I made.
>>748939885>a quote from a children's movie is pretentious
>>748938249You can act like this if you make a free mod for a game and people cry about inane bullshit and even then you'd be a huge fag.You can't act like this if you do a kickstarter, go into early access for 15 years and then try to sell out, scamming your entire playerbase.
Black lives matter.
>>748960407Is this real?
