>outlives 2XKO>outlives Invisible VS>outlives Tokonhow? why is it so hard to make a tag fighting game?
tag fighters are dogshit, FighterZ gets carried by the Dragon Ball IP.
>>748957493>IPLeague and MCU are bigger than Dragon Ball nowadays
it's a fun videogame
>>748957095My hero, Bejita, carries this game
tag fighting games suck
>>748957095It's ironic how people cried about "too many Gokus" in a fucking Dragon Ball Z game, but this is this game has the longest active playerbase out of any modern fighting game outside of maybe Under Night.
>>748957550MCU is only bigger if you include normalfags and old people. Amongst Gamers it's equal to DB. League is not bigger than DB, in America at least
>>748957095A carton of milk outlived these games.
>>748957095It's not, you just have to base it on an IP that has worldwide appeal. Maybe if they did one with Naruto, that would be a lot more popular
>>748958540>too many GokusBecause it does have too many Gokus. Nothing wrong with 10 Gokus in a Tenkaichi game, but a game like FighterZ has limited slots. It's like 6 Gokus out of 45 characters or so.Fucking Mr. Satan isn't playable.
>>748958540>under night>active playerbase
>>748957550>League and MCU are bigger than Dragon Ball nowadaysLeague players only play League, MCU slopeaters don't play video games
>>748957095idk but they need to put co-op in them so shitters don't bitch about having to learn 2-3 characters and they can play with people they know. SFxT with a friendo was fun as fuck. Shit, I had fun in DBFZ playing with randos in party battle moreso than 1v1.I would play the fuck out of MvC4 if it had co-op ranked queue.
>>748958813>non-combatant has to be playable, in a fighting gamerape yourself
>>748957550>MCUThe only big part about MCU is Spider-Man. Nobody cares about capeshit outside of Spider-Man these days.
>>748959221>Mr. Satan>non-combatant
>>748958813Fighting games shouldn't have joke characters. There, I've said it.
>>748957095Its crazy how this game stayed alive for so long even when Bandai was actively trying to kill it>announces rollback update>takes over ONE FUCKING YEAR to implement it
>>748957095Fightans are a dead genre>community is filled to the brim with faggots, trannies and pedos>every "new" game is the same generic shit with some lame gimmick attached>monetary model is predatory and predictable as fuck so more and more are walking away>complexity keeps getting dumbed down more and more to appeal everyone, which ends up appealing to no oneThe only relevant Fightan these days is Street Shitter 6 and that's only because Crapcum guzzlers are a literal cult.
>>748957550Can't comment on League but Marvel's dead as fuck these days, literally Star Wars tier at this point.
THAT'S A 3 HIT COMBOWHY'S HE STILL COMIN?
>>748958540>people cried about "too many Gokus" in a fucking Dragon Ball Z gameDragon Ball has more characters than just Goku, glad I could help, you larping nigger.
>>748958540The casual player of any DB game wants more Gokus and Vegetas they voted from more Gokus and Vegetas in Xenoverse 2 when they could have had characters that never appeared in the game before like Bergamo. Even with their custom characters they just make Goku or Gohan even though they're already in the game.
>>748957095Tokon’s decision to have 4 character fights with one health bar was a baffling decision that almost certainly killed it. Other than that, the fighting game market is saturated with entries that are hyper focused on being ultra balanced esports slop that barely give players anything to do except look at frame data and grind ranked. A more casual game with more single player content would probably do really well, but right now there’s only really Sparking Zero.
>>748957095Browns just really love DB and 2D fighting games, and can't afford anything new
>>748957550>Leaguein your dreams maybe
NA PC EC LETS GOOOOCan only go for FT3 PLEASE HURRY HURRY I GOTTA LEAVE IN AN HOUR
>>748959434>killed Cell>killed BuuFUARK!
>>748957095I wish FighterZ had Sparking Zero's roster. The 2D fighting and artstyle are way more interesting to me, but FighterZ barely has any OG Dragon Ball characters and Frieza/Cell transformations, so I begrudgingly stick to the former
>>748959434He got shot by that guy and nearly died btw. Dragon Ball has power levels. The average human with no training has a power level of 5-10. A power level of 100+ is considered "superhuman" by Master Roshi. Mr. Satan probably has like 20-50 PL, so 99% of the cast would kill him with one finger.So yes, he is a non-combatant.
>>748964524>_>
dbfz has been dead since lab coat 21's release. lab coat 21 was the final nail in the coffin for this game.>>748957493Correct. Everyone loves tag fighters until it's time to play one
>>748959901>but Marvel's dead as fuck these days
>>748964554>Mr. Satan probably has like 20-50 PL, so 99% of the cast would kill him with one finger.Same would happen to Videl, yet she's in the game and can trade punches with Gogeta, Beerus and Jiren.PLs are completely irrelevant to this game and Mr. Satan would make for a great gimmick character, much better another Goku or another Vegeta.
>>748968475>Same would happen to VidelWrong. Gohan said that she is already MUCH stronger than her father when he first met her. He trained with Videl, teaching her to fly and use ki blasts. By DBS Videl is probably as stronger than Krillin was during Raditz arc, she is being trained by a guy stronger than SS3 after all.
>>748959189They could have captured the League fanbase a lot better if they put popular League character in Project L but nah, we need the entire cast of Arcane even though only like 6 people still cared about Arcane by the time the game came out
rainbow edition saved fighterz we just couldnt see it at the time
>>748968604>Gohan said that she is already MUCH stronger than her father when he first met her. He trained with Videl, teaching her to fly and use ki blasts.Videl doesn't use a single proper blast in canon. In FighterZ she can't even use a Z-Reflect either, that's how weak she is even when compared to characters like Krillin or Yamcha (who are both superhumans).>By DBS Videl is probably as stronger than Krillin was during Raditz arc, she is being trained by a guy stronger than SS3 after all.It doesn't matter if Videl is 2x or 10x stronger than Mr. Satan, neither of them would even tickle someone like SSB Gogeta. Looking at the big picture, Videl is laughably weak compared to the rest of the roster, even compared to the other humans. And just like Videl, Mr. Satan absolutely belonged in this game.
>>748969275>Videl doesn't use a single proper blast in canon.In every game she has appeared in she can fly and shoot basic ki blasts.Mr. Satan cannot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhatMD6i2IMr. Satan is an annoying joke character and plot device. Videl can actually fly and use ki. End of story.
>>748969440>every gameI accept your concession, she has NEVER fired a single blast in canon. Might as well include Mr. Satan and make his fanfic >>748958813 his Meteor Attack.>shoot basic ki blasts.Mr. Satan can actually use his pistol and Game Boy bombs as his projectiles as well.>but pistols are irrelevant PLs are irrelevant in this game, otherwise less than half of the roster would be viable fighters. Yamcha's or Krillin's Kamehameha would damage Gogeta about as much as Mr. Satan's gun in canon, i.e. zero damage.
>>748968302Spider-Man is the sole exception to the rule, but feel free to prove me wrong with all those massive successes from the M-She-U era.
>>748964554See >>748964471
>>748958813>still no Gohan Blanco
>>748957095FighterZ wasn't active tag kusoge.
>>748957493there have been a bunch of dbz projects that turbo flopped, like that dbz moba
>>748969440>>748970324listen up faggotsVidel is cool because unique dodge and movement. backflippimg all over the screen to combo into Summon Gohan is fucking peakwhereas in Budokai 2 and the Tenkaichis, where you can play as Mr Satan, her inclusion wasnt at all warranted but to pad out the roster as she could do nothing nearly as unique as in DBFZ.Hating joke characters just because is cringe. He is THE joke character. from what became of THE punchy gag manga. moreso than krillin post Namek and Yamcha post DragonBall lol. whatever issue you have; lore accuracy, power level scaling, you just being a cunt - doesnt matter now since it never did before in a game with a lifebar. whether its joke characters, joke moves/specials, or joke weapons, its a staple of fighting games since forever. Mr Satan can be made to work if they tried like with Videlalso no Videl doesnt use ki blasts
>>748971903>mobile sloplol ok bud
>>748958540What really chaffs my scrote is that they had a bunch of boring Gokus and failed to include the iconic, fully kino SS4 Goku design until many years later Bamco decided to add the fucking Daima version and it's a halfass to boot. Fuck OFF with that>>748959221Yes, absolutely. Sorry, are you going to cry that Mr Satan being able to beat Cell breaks the lore in a game where base Goku can rape Ultra Instinct. Who cares. It'd be fun
>>748957095DBFZ has one of the best combo systems for a tag fighter. The smash system helps keep bnbs simple, so you can test out different characters without learning a whole bunch of combos, while still allowing for a lot of creative combos and conversions. Vanish also helps with conversions you hit a guy with a random ranged move, vanish, then get a simple but heavily scaled combo.Most new tag fighters just rely on active tag to solve both of these things, sure DBFZ has special tag but theres enough hitstun decay means you won't get much afterwards a simple ender at most but you can only do this when a special move connects. Not whenever an assist is on screen that just ruins neutral
>>748973204Honestly, in a potential sequel I'd like them to remove or rework vanish. It's not a mechanic I'm bothered by or anything, but it's not very interesting outside of held vanish while in spark.
>>748958813>b-but..GODku> it's not fai-GODku
>>748973415I wouldn't mind if vanish put you in meter penalty for a bit after using it like ui gokus 6H
JIREN
>>748957095Goku for Smash
>>748959457Every fighting game has a joke character: >(You)
