>"introducing new enemies built on brand-new skeletons from scratch was a central focus"Is this a good thing? What do I think about this?
I asked for this.
>>748962514>Is this a good thing? What do I think about this?It's a good thing.DD2 has a bunch of issues, enemy variety was the biggest one after pacing.
>>748962514NO NEW ENEMIES NO BU-Oh, ok.
>>748962514alot of buzzwords there
And who are those enemies?
>>748962581>New enemies>Model skelletons>BuzzwordsAnon, you might be retarded.
Give ur dragon or no buy
>>748962569>enemy variety was the biggest one after pacing.A much bigger issue imo. Story pacing sucked but after the first few playthroughs the story presentation matters less. Lore is still important, which DD2 at least didn't drop the ball with like it did the story.
>>748962569I would say censorship and only 9 vocations are also notable issues. This is why everyone hates this game.
>>748962719My guess is that the big undead dragon is the Ur Dragon, but they gave it some in-universe relevance this time.
Why does Aquafag avatarfag when shitposting? Wouldn't it be more effective if everyone didn't all know it's him? Does he do it for attention?
>>748962514>"You've heard of the saurian... well get ready for... the MEGA SAURIAN">exactly the same except RED and 50% scaled up and has a fire breath attack>btw, the fire breath was already in the game files for the saurian but a programming error meant that the original enemy just couldnt use it.>no they didn't fix the error>70 dollars please
>>748963098>skeletons from scratchAre you illiterate or retarded?
>>748962514>Is this a good thing? What do I think about this?I think that after all the lies told before DD2's release, I will wait and see what they actually did, not what they said they did.
>>748963098>>748963164I wouldn't put it beyond them to scale up the skeleton and call it a new skeleton.
>>748963167There was that leaked IGN review that listed a bunch of the new monsters, but that could easily be fake.
>>748963164>>748963216>From scratchSo it's retarded then.
>>748963164both with these 'people'
https://youtu.be/a4PWY-rQL5E?t=122It's new (for non ddon players)
>>748962521fpbp
>>748962652I once saw a dog do this to try and get at my chickens. Hesitated for a moment, but then remembered it's just a stupid fucking dog no matter how bipedal so I pegged a brick at its head then ran up and bashed its head in with said brick while it was stunned. Idiot couldn't even use its new fingers to claim the brick for itself. Then my chickens ate it over several days, and the maggots for days thereafter. God I hate dogs.
>>748962569The biggest issue is the frequency of mob placement. I just completed the run from Bhakbattal or however it's spelled to Drabnir's grotto. I could not run for a dozen seconds before encountering a new pack of enemies, and oftentimes I'd be stunlocked between the pack behind me and the pack in front of me while my pawns were circlejerking over one straggling enemy as 15 of the other enemies gangraped me. No, I'm not going to fucking fight every trash mob on a journey when there are a thousand of them. I SHOULD be able to run by them. I finally made it near the grotto and not only had to fight eighteen bandits and an armoured cyclops, but also another fucking armoured cyclops right outside before I could fucking camp. Which, all took forever mind you, as I had recently switched from thief to spearhand and holy shit spearhand fucking sucks if you don't have a mage with you casting that infinite stamina shit. The amount of time I spent animation locked then knocked down and animation locked was insane. I spent more time on that journey waiting for my character to be usable again than I did actually playing. THEN I finally get into the grotto and I can't be fucked fighting anything any longer. So I try my best to just run through it. But time and time again I fail to find exits, and am blocked off by slimes that I HAVE to fight in narrow passages because I can't jump over or run through them. I finally get to a breakable wall that MIGHT lead to an exit and there are 8 of those orange Saurians which cause all frontal attacks to bounce. I can't even hit the fucking wall because they're all crowding around in front of it causing my weapon to bounce. Alt+F4'd right there. You know that one stretch of road northwest in DD1 which has like 3 flocks of harpies and a chimera every fucking time, and every time you have to run through it you roll your eyes? That's the entire DD2 map. I honestly don't know if a game I want to finish has ever made me so exhausted.
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>>748962514>they are so jewish that they even cheapened out on active marketing and they are using AI images to advertise itGrim
>>748965018This is such a weenie post haha just fight the damn enemies man
>>748962652la creatura de skinwalker
>>748965320That would have taken like ten hours. All for a bunch of loot I don't give a shit about and maybe one vocation level.
shilling my DDDA mod to make it harder and give it a cooldown between curatives>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/1176
>>748965947Can you make a mods like this for DD2 as well?
>>748966089I could try yeah! mind you, this is all AI slopped. But yeah it should be possible and probably even easier
>>748965018It's really funny in hindsight that with meaningful travel, Itsuno just meant nonstop enemies from point A to point B.
Sick, I love enemies that cast spells
the faggot dwarf for the magic archer quest doesn't exist any longer
>>748966740Why add a demon but have the final boss be an undead dragon reskin though
>>748962514Where was this said?
>>748962953So he can claim he's not Aquafag when he's being dogpiled on. Report for avatarfag abuse.
>>748968960Do you really think the undead dragon is the final boss?
>>748965947No gog?
>>748969240Yes but it probably has a phase 2 if you complete the dungeon like in DDDA
>>748969356sadly I don't have that version of the game so I can't try it. But feel free to give it a go, it might just work
>>748962569the biggest issue is being limited to one weapon per class, which still hasnt been fixed
>>748966740>no sheath and ballsCowardly design
>>748969240What if it has a Phase 2 where it starts floating and Daimon's face forms in its chest?
>>748969745The undead lesbian lover of the girlboss from the trailer is gonna pop out of the undead dragon for phase 2'cap this
>>748969624>Muh Strider2 years of this fucking shit
>>748970165and many more to come!
>>7489701652 years of it not being fixed, deal with it faggot
>>748968960>Why add a demon but have the final boss be an undead dragon reskin thoughThe final boss of Dragon's Dogma 2: Dark Arisen 2 is going to be the Dark Arisen (2)
>>748970228Nice finger heart staff fag
>>748970394>Just because he's the 'dark' arisen, he can't be kawaii uguu~No fun allowed.
>>748962514but this won't fix enemy variety in the main game, will it?
>>748970856All the base game is getting is extra dungeons and hard mode. If you're on PC there'll be a mod to add DLC enemies to the vanilla world but otherwise no.
>>748965018My main problem is how you literally can't actually save NPCs by fighting off enemies because they'll keep pulling and pulling new ones and you'll be fighting for fucking days on end, so the only way to actually prevent NPCs from dying is to not engage the enemies and instead quickly run away so they despawn before they die.Not to mention how little sense it makes from a setting standpoint for these traveling merchants to travel these roads alone if they're this fucking flooded with monsters
>>748970992>All the base game is getting is extra dungeonsbut those are endgame>and hard modeunfortunately already confirmed to be the same terrible hard mode from the DDDA where only the beginning is hard but since you earn way more experience and gold you start over leveling even quicker
>>748971140>already confirmed to be the same terrible hard mode from the DDDAsource, if you please
>>748962514This guy now lives in capcom's basement, it seems. Not that I'm complaining
>>748962514He's so fucking cool. Can't wait to fight him.
>>748965018Warrior chads have no concept of this animation lock you speak of, might be skill issue. This isn't souls slop where you just run past everything lmao.
>>748971579>literal slow motion gameplay with second long animation locks is this a joke?
>>748962514AI slop
>>748971579Getting the timing down on the basic bitch swings is literally impossible.
>>748972240it was easy but fucking boring
>>748971140>unfortunately already confirmed to be the same terrible hard mode from the DDDA where only the beginning is hard but since you earn way more experience and gold you start over leveling even quickerSorry sweaty, but your narrative has been le deboonked.
>>748962514Should I get to a certain point in DD2 before this comes out? I kind of restarted, so I'm still early.
>>748972450You access the DLC as soon as you get to the main city.
>>748966740I fucking love the progression of magic mastery in this game. It takes us a while to cast strong spells. The dragons take much less time. And Damon just throws that shit out there. That's how magic should be!
>>748971579Man warrior is just the best feeling class in the game.>>748972240I could've sworn they added a visual efect for the timing but I guess notIt's pretty much PSO attack timing, once you learn how you'll be able to do it consistently.
>>748972450Play it now, so you can truly appreciate how much better it becomes after dlc. Or share in the disappoint of your fellow anons if shit sucks.
>>748972417OK idk where I read it but I remember there being something about higher exp and gold yields. If this is not the case, I'm happy. God knows I want a DD without a dogshit hard mode implementation (without having to rely on mods)
>>748962514It's a good thing.>mfw bought the game and the dlc bundle but I burnt out on the game before the dlc even came out
>>748962825Judging by the steam reviews, most people hated it because it was super buggy and ran like ass. ever since the September patch, everyone but the people that inhabit the DD2 schizo discord loves or at least likes it now.basically, /v/ is very nitpicky about shit that matters a little bit to a game or not at all and ignores the forest for the trees when people start hating it. It's a general trend on this board.
>>748973369The only thing I get from this is that people are cattle. If you buy Dragon's Dogma 2 you are fucking stupid by definition, if you like it you should be legally considered retarded, DD2 fans should get government grabs just for liking that piece of shit. Fucking stupid retards with no taste whatsoever.
>>748965380Nigga, what. It would've taken you 30 or 40 minutes max, maybe this game just isn't for you.
>>748973369>basically, /v/ is very nitpickyI doubt it's genuine posts considering most of their 'nitpicks' aren't even true.
>>748962581>alot of buzzwords thereThere's literally no buzzwords you ESL monkey.
>>748965018I'm playing the slowest fucking class in the game and I am having none of these problems. you genuinely just suck at the game and you're seething about the game being bad to cope. That Drabnir's grotto cave took me 15-20 minutes to beat. the whole point of your game is to form a party where there's a real sense of party synergy so battles (outside initial mini-boos encounters before level 30-40 and drakes) are easy as shit. It's the exact same shit as the first game and if a small dungeon like that is difficult (not even a drake fight which are fucking difficult if you don't have a silence spell), it just means you are just playing the game wrong unironically. the combat is really easy to master if you actually pay attention to the skills and augments of you and your pawns.>>748971045I've had only a handful of culling requests in my entire run and they take maybe a day at worst if you aren't using your ferrystone for large distances or a couple hours typically. I'm seriously starting to notice how the DD2 detractors can't even play the goddamn game right.>Not to mention how little sense it makes from a setting standpoint for these traveling merchants to travel these roads alone if they're this fucking flooded with monstersbecause they have to make a living selling shit or else they starve and die. They also have random Vermundian and Batthali guards protecting them in the case of something happening (it's not much past hobgoblins and saurians, but it's better than nothing) and random ass pawns
I'm not sure what to think about this expansion. Do I like it?
>>748964234did... did you kill a guy anon?
>>748965018This is what makes the game kino. Every other area in the game is reasonable aside from Battahl which is a third world war zone currently being bombed by multiple terrorists organizations and a western government. The first game has genuinely nothing that matches the sheer relief you feel when you're finally out of that shithole and into the comfy Volcanic Island.
>>748974475And by slowest fucking class, I mean warrior. The trickster class is fucking funny but I would never use it. I love the combat of the DD games too much.>>748974614don't forget the Medusa and the AIDSdragon. i love the American Southwest environment of Batthal but fuck me if I'd live there. It's literal hell on earth.
>>748973369i have a good rig that could run it well even on launch. i still didn't like it that much due to vocations getting fucked and the lack of enemy variety that made it boring to walk around. the vocations got a bit better with the last patch but the enemies never got fixed
>>748974515Let me just hop in my fucking time machine and find out for you.
>>748974515You're having a blast.
>>748971045>>748974475>Vermisillitude>Dragon’s DogmaIt’s explicitly a fake, not lived in world existing for the sake of a story only. People build ships despite the fact they can’t fucking go anywhere and everyone was fine for a month without ANY water
dragons borema 2 "fans" will do everything in their power to try to convince people their game isn't boringnever works though
I'm so fucking ready for the DLC.
>>748974475When did I complain about difficulty? I only mentioned tedium. I do not want to fight a group every five seconds, and I shouldn't have to in the first place.
They're adding the new dungeons to the main game area with the dlc, but will they also fix other glaring problems with the base game, such as enemy variety?
>>748977879The enemy variety complaint is overblown, but it sounds like it will since they've said Hard mode changes enemy placements.
With the difficulty tweaks mod showing enemy aggression works on a sliding scale, its bizaree they didnt just have difficulties from the outside. The game feels very different just turning that shit up so enemies dont waste time standing around in a fight. It gives me some hope for when they add that shit, but they said it wont be at launch.
>>748978242oh shit they modded that in? fucking nice
>>748978370Yea, if its not there in base game its nice to know its there with mods at least. Its funny how much stuff is actually in the base game but is just not utilised.Seems they offered a taste of stuff to come with the gore chimera added in an update, that shit definately feels a lot more involved than base Chimera and it seems they simply turned up the aggression.
>>748978080>The enemy variety complaint is overblownBrother when I finally got to Battahl, I got greeted by the same enemies I've been destroying for tens of hours, but this time their models were slightly different.
>>748978864really cool! no more goblins just standing like retards without doing anything
Gonna blast off hard
>>748978971No, you didn't. They have different attacks, behaviors and levels of aggression.
>>748979306I didn't notice any of that. Sure they might have had more health but they still didn't put up much of a fight in combat. Blasted through their ranks with ease.
>>748970165No other game captures the feeling of playing strider, ranger, MAit was a truly magical experience, lightning in a bottle
>>748979273
>>748962825I haven't seen you Aquafag out in the wild but I guess you just had to come for the DLC release didn't you
>>748979512>I didn't notice any of thatOkay. The fact remains that all the variants of goblins, harpies, saurians, etc act differently. I don't really see why you think not paying attention is a good argument. If you want to argue that difference is meaningless because the difficulty of these encounters ultimately means it doesn't matter then fine, but it's not an argument about enemy variety anymore.
>>748980041Your standards are very low if you think that's a valid argument for the game having acceptable amount of enemy variety.
>>748980236It worked for you retards with DA.
>>748965018Lmaooo skillissue
>>748963098And the hilarious part is that there's already a mod that adds JUMBO enemy variants already, and new dragon reskins too. I assume the DLC is gonna realistically have like 3 actual proper new enemies and maybe 2 of those are endgame bosses. We've already seen reskins of old enemies, they're just snow variants now.We are also gonna get even more goblins in the dlc and base game. It IS called Goblin's Dogma 2 after all.
>got my code from GMG todayFUCK YEAH BROS
>>748962514no none caresthey lost their core audience when they removed loli pawns
>>748981689yeah true, I miss brinnin' every pawn of those I came across
>>748981689Say what
>>748981689>Those hips>IoIiThat's a midget, you tourist.
>>748982263 k here you go
>>748981689>no none
>>748972240How are you so fucking retarded?
>>748982334>can't come up with a counter argument>attacks a spelling mistake insteadI accept your concession.And for what it's worth I appreciate your hatred of jeets.
>>748982219It's really not a big deal. You can literally just toggle 160 pawns down to 140 with a single click. Or even shorter if you want.>>748982319That's more like it.
*smooch*
>>748982981Aught you reconsider, Arisen? We have travelled this path before and you'll not gainsay the outcome leads to naught.
>>748982981>kidnaps your beloved but it's just him standing in front of you
>>748983317>eng dubs
>>748983508You will retract those words, ser!
>>748982981he's smiling :)
hang on a sec...there are people who ACTUALLY like dragon's dogma 2 and wanted more of it?
>>748984052No, but there are some genuinely pathetic people who felt like DD was "/our/ game" and therefore defended it due to tribal reasons.
>>748984148And some truly unfortunate souls who were born in India and hate it. :'(
>>748962514If you've ever played monster hunter in its portable heyday then you'd know the largest chunk of budget/dev time goes into brand new skeletonsMonsters like gogmazios (4U) and vaalhazak (world) for instance have always been traditionally gore magala-typeHell there's drakes even take off and land in DD like rathalosNew skeletons is code for "fresh enemy types" in capcom
>>748984052>>748984148meds
>>748984148
>>748984052It's more that the DD style of game scratches that itch for some people, and while it doesn't stand up to DDDA, DD2 was alright enough.Hell, I've got a good 100 hours in it myself. It's so incredibly flawed but there's not much else like it other than the first game and the DDO.
>>748962514Is this the only expansion they're gonna make? They release like 1 for MH every year.
>>748984518Monster Hunter has been the golden child since World.
>>748984408Pretty much. It not as good as DD1, but it's still better than most other games in the past decade. And the majority of the issues I have for it are issues that every big AAA game has now.
>>748984408The revisionism that DA is anything more than a mediocre bandaid update is really tiresome. Whatever happened to anons loving the game despite it's flaws? Now everyone pretends it was a masterwork.
>>748984763Pretty much. DD1 was a 7/10 rough diamond in a sea of 10/10 polished turds.
>>748984763>masterworks allNah, no, Dragon's Dogma has never been more than mediocre. But it is mediocre in such a way that is charming and enjoyable and has the right amount of jank.>Whatever happened to anons loving the game despite it's flaws?This is me, I do love the game. It's got that right amount of "this would be so good if only it was good".
>>748984895I miss the /v/ that made fun of AAA games for the slop they are. Now we have normalfags unironically nostalgiafagging over Halo and Call of Duty, or worshiping slop like BOTW and Death Stranding.
>>748985076Do jank-kino games even get made any more? It seems like every game these days is overproduced with the depth of a puddle.
>>748965947just updated it to allow custom difficulty tweaks. I've tagged it as beta as I haven't tested all the enemies but, those I've tested (gobs, wolves, bandits, saurians, harpy, cyclops, drake) do work. You can make the enemies have more hp, do more damage, have more stagger resistance and give less or more exp
>>748985286You get some sincere janky indieshit still, but from proper studios? Not really. And honestly, a bunch of the "jank" indie games are actively trying to be awkwardly controlled so it doesn't work as well most of the time.
>>748985286All the time. They're called AA games and everybody hates them but nobody talks about them.
>>748985493We genuinely have artificial jank now. Like that game with the van that marketed itself as>Hey look, we have those crazy physics of those old PS2 games you remember! (except we did it on purpose haha)
>>748985509AA games don't exist anymore. Indies are getting close to AA status though.
>>748985880What? There's a bunch of AA studios, they release titles all the time.
>>748984052Yes.Name 1 game better than dragons dogma if its "so bad".You aren't so retarded you would go back on what you said, right?
>>748986207>Name 1 game better than dragons dogmaHeroes of Might and Magic 3
>>748986313>I can't think in real timelmaoGood joke, serious answers only though.
>>748962514I think it's a jab at monster hunter. Actually I'd say it's a big jab at monster hunter.Just a big fucking spear right at monster hunter, really.>>748962569
>>748962689Buzzwords for smart people who know how 3d models work in proncipal?
>>748962514what are the new enemies? ice goblins? snow harpies?
>>748987221Snow Leapworms
>>748987221Bhaal
>>748987221Gorecyclops
>>748988475God I wish. I want to fight fuckhuge enemies. Bestiary's Colossal Cyclops is nice, but I need BIGGER.
>dicking around>Kratos walking the same road>goblinsarisen.bat>another Kratos shows up
>>748971579Imagine if we could slice and dismember monsters in this game besides cutting the tail of Lizardmen.
>>748987221ice slime
>>748984052course, DD2 is a blast.
>>748989019Consider yourself lucky it wasn't Sphinx Parent or Frieren or fat high-pitched round-eared beastren
>>748989019>>748989374Someone should make a party of only Kratos
>>748989482And one Atreus.
>>748989669BOY!
>>748989019it will be worse in the dlc since axes are being added
>>748982454>It's really not a big deal. You can literally just toggle 160 pawns down to 140 with a single click. Or even shorter if you want. probably with a mod, sure.
>>748962514is the DLC adding new things to the main campaign or will it be a separate location like bitterblack?
>>74899244512 dungeons added to base game. They claim they're themed and take 30 minutes
>"introducing new enemies built on brand-new skeletons from scratch was a central focus"The enemies they've shown are mostly based on existing models using their skeletonsCyclops - mammoth cyclopsWolves - nuWolvesHumanoid enemies - skeletons, zombies (and those spawned from the UR dragon 2.0)Goblin/Knackers - those new onesUR-Dragon 2 - from part 1Arisen Death - probably Dullahan?Beholder - from part 1
These retards really mapped the extra 2 skills to 2 buttons you have to fat finger every time to access them instead of just mapping the extra skills to the useless sheath/unsheath trigger
>>748962514Cool classic rpg party vs big monster coverart is back. Good, what the fuck were they thinking with that retarded cat thats only in the game for 5 seconds and does nothing combined with government designated love interest looking slightly to the side.
>>748990090mod: tap go command twice for launchshould have been in vanilla base game
>>748993202Sheathe/unsheathe isn’t useless you run faster sheathed
>>748994362It was automatic in the first one, they're just wasting a button for it
>>748974568What even it was the dam thing was going for his chickens. Give a fella a break bro
I'm just playing this now after it broke my hearts 2 years ago and nobody told me the supposedly "upgrade" vocations are actually massive downgrades, fighter feels like absolute shit to play because tusk toss takes 3 seconds to charge so there is no blinking to get close to an enemy and then tusk tossing them anymore
>Brand new skeletons!>probably just the goat thing and the Not!BeholderI love DD but I was so burned by the release that I am not holding my breath for 2dark2arisenI would rather be pleasantly surprised than bitterly disappointedGod I fucking hope it's good though, there is so much potential in the series if it was given the time and funding
>>748995290You can charge it during animations so yes you can do that
>>748995418The charge is far too long it feels like you could just spam 3 other skills before it finishes charging
>>748962581holy buzzword cause there's not a single buzzword in this phrase>>748963216you can scale up or down any asset without needing to touch the skeleton
>>748995594You can charge it during the animation of any skill, even the travel time of blink strike.
To actually fix the game first they needed to do a big 2.0 story overhaul like crimson desert did. It's insane how many characters and questlines there are that lead to nothing and suddenly stop and completely pointless areas like the elf town which clearly existed to learn how to be a magic archer but then they moved magic archer to later in the game.
>>748995594Set blink strike to l1+square and then just hold the input, that makes it combo smoothly.
Remember the cat bitch that was so important they put her on the cover then you talk to her once for a sidequest?
>>748970185Based... Keep up the good fight, Strider bro.
>>748995754>>748995893This dogshit game can't be fixed without mods, are there any mods that mod the new skill slots to a trigger button?
>>748996205I asked claude to make a mod to let us fuck her while Menella watches
I'll give a shit if they make the game finally not suck. But only after years and a good sale. 0% chance it actually ends up better than the original, unfortunately, and the original was good but had a LOT of wasted potential and obviously unfinished / cut content.Now, for any SERIOUS DD fans here - did that MMO private server project ever get to a state where it's actually worth playing?
>>748996205>remember the elves? there's like... uh... 2 quests about them? fucking epic!this game really is dragon's dogma 2. a fuckton of cut content again
Idk I played like 30 hours and got so bored
>>748997656We put an entire language skill into the game so uhhh you can talk to one npc
>>748996519You can already do exactly that, rebinding the new skill slots to L1+L2 and L1+R2 in the Options.
>>748997448trying too hard
>>748989019We must be better Pawns.
>>748996205>>748997656>>748997774I wonder what a fully realized DD2 would look like.
>>748962569I've been playing for almost 50 Hours and I have no Idea how far into the game am I, I'm in a quest about blue crystals on a beach after reaching "for the first time" to Bakbattahl
>>748972528>Casting Maelstorm is a fucking gambleJesus, I love sorcerer but the meister skills are a scam.
>>748997656Noooo you don't understand! There isn't any cut content! That's just all the content they could come up with in the first place!
I'll now proceed to pleasure myself with this pawn
>>748998456That is exactly how a Meister skill should be, especially for a Sorcerer. High risk high reward. You don't get to bitch about a skill until your super special bonus attack is dragon roaring that only scares and staggers things.
>>748962652God I fucking hate zomboid post 2024.
The new skills will unfuck Trickster right?
>>748965947>>748985351Real cool shit anon.
>>748998278There's no visionShitsuno was a hack and dd1 and 2 suck big dickBBI is the only good thing about first and majority player skipped base world went straight to it
>>748997448ddon is actually the best dragon's dogma Wayyyyyy better than dd1
>>748963098>"You've heard of the saurian... well get ready for... the MEGA SAURIAN">exactly the same except RED and 50% scaled up and has a fire breath attackkek
>>748962514Why should i play this shit when games like witcher 3, skyrim, dragon age, crimson desert, eldenring and bg3 exist?DD2 might be the most dogshit game i ever played and capcom should've fired shitsuno ass ages ago
Arisens be like aw yeah I want to put a ring on that
>>749000451Unless the modifiers on Relic weapons give the Censer something like>Attached Simulacrum periodically Burns/Freezes/Shocks enemy>Wall actually works>Aromatic Rally heals pawns instead of slowly kills themIt's still going to be lame.
Eternal reminder that Dogsharter 2 will never hava or match these kinohttps://youtu.be/8XBlBPtQW6g?si=xtwg5Wj1lKFiKE1Ehttps://youtu.be/bQkkVTsayko?si=CxgDAXpE51Nm-Nejhttps://youtu.be/0LB-Ry3qqhM?si=pqa2RoOag17pCf9tThey missed out on peak and are now actively dismissing the legacy of Dragon's Dogma and its loyalist.
>>748962514>5 new enemies and 10 lazy reskinsThat will be $30+taxes sucka :)
>>748963098>we'll get exactly what Dark Arisen got but moreAll the shitposters are going to instantly love DD2 and call it Game of the Century after this.
No lolis no buyNo mystic knight no buyNo bbi no buy
>>749000451No one gas about funny smoke man, bro...
>>748995791they cut them all in the middle so they could sell the resolution in a dlc pack
>>748995791>Character's entire questline is about him accepting he is better at human archery>Durrrr why he no make me magic archer?
>>749002140>one quest about nothing in a town with nothing else>a town that is supposed to be special to the point of needing a translation skill>town is full of magick archers and you can even buy magic bows from a shop>Magick acher is unlocked in a random hut in the final region for no actual reasonGee it's almost like they removed it late in development so they could have something in the final area because the game is clearly half assed and rushed after the first region
>>749003110God you people are fucking retarded>all the Arisen only class maisters are in or require you to do a quest in Battahl>All the pawn class maisters are near Vermund>”Gee, this single class must have been the exception because I am a fucking autistic retard and think it should have worked how I want it to!”
DD2 is literally the greatest game ever made and had zero flaws anyone that says anything negative about it is a faggot shitposter that just is jealous of how amazing the game is. There is literally hundreds of hours of hand crafted content and when you run out you go to a new region and suddenly five hundred new quests with deep and compelling storylines all waiting to be enjoyed.Don't believe anyone that says the game is unfinished and there is nothing to do after you leave the first area. The first area is basically just a tutorial and the real game starts once you cross the border
>>749001184I wish they dipped more into the metaphysics in DD2I loved the weird shit in DDDA, the closest you get in DD2 is the weirdness with the pathfinder and becoming the old man on the beachHopefully DDDA2 explores that some more, and had some good music to go with it. Eternal Return is my absolute favorite track (into free is great but kinda sits outside the OST)
>>749000004the only High risk high reward meisters are Sorcerer both and one of thief, All the other varies from minor inconvenience to grounded, magick spearhead meister's drawback is a fucking joke.
>>748963167Well, unless evil eye and grigori were trailer fluff only, that's a minimum of 2. Undead cyclops might well be a new skeleton too, but it's hard to say.
My troon friend love this shit for some reason
>>749005740Post her arisen
>>749005642Why would Grigori need a new skeleton? And especially why would undead cyclops?
>>749007053Grigori as in these dudes>>748966740. That's what they were called in DDON, where they first showed up.>And especially why would undead cyclops?Did you see it? It's a Gaping Dragon on two legs. But like I said, that one's a maybe.
>>749007272>Grigori as in these dudesOh, makes sense. I thought you maybe meant Strigoi the succubus reskins.>It's a Gaping Dragon on two legs. But like I said, that one's a maybe.True, we'll have to see. I swore it still moved like them, but I dunno. I am a bit drunk.
Haven't played this game since release. Wtf is this humongous update?
>>749007528They fixed a lot of stuff before the DLC like pawn AI.
>>749007603>>749007528they literally made pawn AI worse
>>749007660nice try doomer>>749007528they literally fixed the game. its as it should have been on launch. now its a 9/10 game easily, with one point docked for still a lack of enemies, which will be fixed in the dlc
>>749007660How so?
>>749007984the consensus is so strong even AI knows about it
>>749008028Ai is not proof. How many of these people actually know what the AI was like before? What inclinations do they each have? What percentage are just suffering from confirmation bias after hearing about supposed problems? What Vocation are these pawns? Nobody knows because it's just an ai overview of random posts online.
>>749008027They completely redid the whole map's pathfinding nodes for the sake of performance. Framerate is better because the nodes are far less dense, but the nodes are SO far less dense without real touching up that NPCs can't navigate a lot of places properly anymore. They get stuck on fucking everything, a lot of ledges are guaranteed death because they'll walk right off the edge, freeze in place on a lot of bridges, anything other than flat terrain is a nightmare for them to navigate in a fight and something about it also makes archer pawns in particular regularly aim down at the ground and hit nothing.
>>749008243https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1wv072h/did_pawn_combat_ai_get_worse/
>>748984052I fucking hate base DD2 but I'm willing to give them a chance with Dark Arisen 2 here
>>749008475>I hate this game so I'm going to spend $30 more on it
>>749008028>reddit said so!you already lost
>>749008332So it's just subjective opinions from random people still.
>>749008332I actually didn't know the update messed up AI that bad. I did play a bit and fought the chimera, mostly for performance testing. During the short session I did notice my pawns are downed more than usual, but I just chalk it up as the chimera being tougher than the usual monster. Can't believe the discord group sneaked into Capcom's office to sabotage the update.
>>749008028AI so clever saar, it know everything!
>>749008332>>749008859Stronger arisen and retarded pawns is just the game getting more Dragons dogma dna, next they should make pawn revive instand and bring back strider
>>749008550>>749008569>>749009783>NO IT CANNOT BEits okay to be wrong>>749009807copium
>>749008332There is one message on there that stood out to me. I think the extra two skill slots are a possible source of fucked up pawn behavior in combat.Experimenting for the past half hour, I loaded up a Straightforward Fighter Pawn with six different skills and went to fight an armored cyclops and some saurians in the volcano area.With six skills, the Pawn had long moments of standing around idly. And multiple times, he jumped on the cyclops's arm and offered to give me a boost, refusing to do anything else until he got flung off.After the pawn finally killed the cyclops, I put on redundant skills on the new skill slots so there were only a total of four and 5&6 were mirroring a skill on 1234. Resting a week on a bench, I went back to the same Cyclops. This time, the pawn was fighting properly, taking swings, spamming the four skills, not clinging to the cyclops's arm.From this very limited anecdotal test... I don't think they coded this shit right. Either the pawns can't effectively parse having six skills total and get caught up in some sort of indecision, or they can't parse those two slots specifically. I'm going to try having unique skills on Slots 5&6 while 1234 have redundancies next.
>>748962514when should I start my run lads, should I wait until the dlc comes out?
>>748962514The base game was so bad there's no way this can fix it. Enemy variety was a big issue though.
>>749008028these are all true, they also still sit in deep water while brine kills them and do nothing
>>749010763Fuck it, good enough for me, taking skills off my pawn rn
>>749010763All right, doesn't matter what slots they're in, just that there aren't more than four skills equipped.Back to six skills, long pauses between attacks, will use the same skill 2-3 times then go back to idle, and has been constantly pinning fallen enemies.Four skills, tears through a dozen bandits and saurians without stopping... but something really fucking weird about this setup I randomly decided on. My Pawn is throwing hands. He will punch and grab and throw dudes at the beginning of the fight, mace&shield still sheathed while he does Flawless Guard like he's doing a dempsey roll. Only once he does Full Moon or Cloudward will the mace get pulled out.
thinking of buying thishow is performance on ps5? heard it was pretty bad on launch
>>749012456I've noticed my pawn will occasionally do finishing moves with their weapon sheathed. Or the inverse, doing bare handed finishers even with their weapon drawn. The engine update was much needed, but it clearly broke shit that was working perfectly well before.
>>749012493still bad
>>748962514have they removed the 50% nog population?
>>749012493Not up to snuff for what it should be, but it is playable.
>really want to start my dd2 playthrough before the dlc comes out>but also want my dlc playthrough to be on hardmode>but also want to prep the playthrough by unlocking the vocations first without overlevelling myselfthis is suffering, gonna have to wait till the dlc is out to select hard mode
>>749013201You can start a new save now and just sprint to all the vocations right away if you want. Sorcerer, Spearmaster and Warrior are easy to get immediately. Trickster just needs you to reach the shrine in Battahl. And you can even unlock Wayfarer before doing anything past the first Vermund missions if you hate yourself.Only Magick Archer is nearly impossible to unlock early due to the escort quest being bullshit at low levels.
>>749013489Yeah I know I can get the 3 from vermund and trickster fairly easily but the issue comes with not being able to change difficulty on a save file I create before the dlc releases since I want a hard mode playthrough
>>748995327>spoiler>just let picture related cookWe already have a >Alternate Start mod>Notice Board Quests>Play as a Elf mod>Swimming/Fishing modand the most important one>Passing Glance mod where you and the one you are bridal carrying look at each otherThis guy is either a CAPCOM developer or CLANKING really hard with the latest LLM's.
if it's anything like dark arisen you can probably just immediately class swap in norgan
>>749013658I would assume it'd just work like hard mode in DD1 where selecting it resets the whole save, but I guess that's conjecture. Either way you have multiple slots, so there's no harm in being prepared now.
>>749013763God the tranny can do the most polished and extensive mod and I still wouldn't download it, because his ideas are dogshit
>>749012820It was already removed three weeks after release
>>748989104Could be possible but that would tank its performance by a lot
>>748962514Why use aislopshit?
>>749009783The AI consumed the water in the pool the instant it answered the question so it was correct in that moment
>>749015505>AI is consuming the Brine
>>749015505B-but it is underwater...?
>>748962514BLIZZARD, HIRE THESE MEN
>>749000776>Newfag wasn't around for the Dogma threads in 2012.
>>749007528RE was a retarded engine that calculated everything on a single CPU thread, that's why open world games ran like shit. They had to rework the whole thing to make it not retarded.
>>749016804RE was made for the 3DS, what did you expect
>>749008028>MUH AI OPINIONSHoly retard.
>>749017051what did you type? seems dishonest
>>749017051They should really teach people how to ask questions to get accurate data and how you can easily write a question to get whatever answer you want in school from now on since we're going to be with AI forever. Or well, that's what would be good even though it won't happen and boomers, zoomers and millennials will never learn those lessons.
>>749017164>>749017169>>749017051yeah nevermind, that guy is clearly shitposting by gaslighting the AI
>the game is so bad capcom fired itsuno assFuark...
tons of discussion about the issues>BUT ITS BETTER says the coping fanboyhttps://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1wiwh3w/pawn_ai_after_tu_32_broken_changed_or_just_more/
>>748962514>Game so bad that shills had to post aislop for marketing
>>749017239>>749017292I see these complaints from 4chan, reddit, steam. Can't believe the discord group got so organised to shitpost about DD2.
>>749017259I'm glad that they didThis hack raped dmc and turned it into mindless juggleslop Beg capcom for billions of dollars and endless dev time for his dogshit dream gameCry and blame tendies when game flopped
>>749017239You need to learn to how to read information better, anon. Your post doesn't disprove or prove either of them, it actual provides supporting evidence for both anons while also implying they're potentially both wrong. Why are you people trusting a summary of randomly gathered bits of information?
>>748964234>yfw. This Anon just admitted that he went full caveman grug on some poor soul and caved his head in with a piece of loose masonry
>>749016708I was there and everyone back then skipped base game and jumped straight to bbi
>>748962514https://youtube.com/shorts/FIfpicyg5jU?si=07yWNw5Gb3AfoZl3
>>749017496If you were really from back then you'd know that BBI is fucking tiny and most people only jumped straight into it because they'd already played hours of the base game before DA released and did nothing to fix it.
>>749017450Listing off features read from marketing spiels is not the same as player discussion talking about fucked up gameplay. I looked for a consensus on the discussions, he cherry picked PR bullshit.
>>749008028>>749017051>>749017239>>749017292All of you are asking loaded questions. This is what an unbiased response looks like.
>>749017496lying retard
>>749017446I'm not a hardcore DMC fan, but I am a GODma fan, so I can relate to how you feel. Imagine being in charge of your own sequel to at least 2 beloved games with good designs and feedback and still managing to fuck it up.I hope whatever Chinese company he ran off to skin him alive.
>>749017624@grok is this real?
>>749017496>>749017605>Retard argues with retardBBI didn't even exist back then, you faggots.
I'm glad kinoshita will dd3 because ddon is the only good dragon's dogma game
>>749017676Yes, only casual gamers deny it.
>>748962514Are you guys going to start a fresh playthrough for the expansion?Not sure how balanced the expansion would be for a savefile with multiple NG+, but it feels like a pain in the ass to level up all the vocations again on a new playthrough.
>>749017606Even here you're selectively choosing data. That anon's post also lists Reddit as a source in the AI summary just like yours did, meanwhile your post contradicts your own argument by also stating a lot of ways in which the AI is better after the update.But literally none of that or what you said matters, this isn't reliable data at all. We have no idea what the context of any of this self proclaimed data is. For all we know all these people complaining either don't even accurately remember how the AI acted before the update to make this claim in the first place, or they've got terrible pawn specialisations that are causing these behaviours. Heck, maybe the AI is better but players have to change those specialisations because the good ones are no longer effective. It's just words from untrustworthy sources. Capcom and the developers lie all the time, Reddit and 4Chan are filled with liars and shitposters. These places are not reliable.
DD2 really suffered by not having Greg appear throughout the game. Sure he made a great entrance but it was right at the end.
>>749017684>BBI didn't exist when BBI was aroundHow drunk are you, anon?
>>749017869>Dogma threads in 2012>BBI was around
>>749017907You are such a pedantic faggot, there was less than a year between the two releases. They were the same threads.
>>749017994>I was only pretending to be retarded!>It's the same thing, really!DD become one of the most popular games here after release.You weren't there.
>>749018110That faggots here do the same shit people like Asmondgoldberg do when they get called out for pretending to play games they never played.
>>749017808the threads had video evidencean anon in this very thread did tests too
>>749018110Can confirm. Revisionism anon sucks dicks.
>>749017386I looked on Reddit and somebody made a post about Pawn AI at about the same time he prompted chatGPT to look for complaints about the pawn AI lol
>>748965018fucking just kill the monsters ffs
>>749018183Yeah look at this madman. Superman punch into double axe handle, then pulling the mace for the widest whiffed cloudward strike. Happens at the start of every other encounter with only four skills equipped. If I were recording earlier, could have shown him hitting a drake with a few haymakers.
>>748962514>brand-new skeletonsWow! Capcom thinking and releasing content just in time for halloween :)
really wish they could fucking hasten the release of hard mode to like 3 days before the DLC release so i can start up and level my hard mode character in preparation for the dlc. I don't want to feel like i'm having to rush it when it comes out.
>>749019081Hard mode in the DLC they’ve stated is for characters who are basically maxed out already from playing the base game and it’s going to be insanely gay if you try to do a fresh playthrough and go into the DLC at level 40 on hard
>>749017324>Decide to check the DD subreddit to catch up on DDDA2 news>see this threadNot even 2 minutes and I remember why I come to /v/ to discuss games
>>749018906Absolute chad, look at him beat the shit out of that saurian
>>748962514>confirmed to only have 5 new enemies, the rest are reskins of existing enemiesWhy are Capcom so cheap with how much content they add to their AAA priced games? This isn't a DD2 problem, it's a Capcom problem as seen in all of their releases since SF6
>>749019270That post has the same vibe as OPs, so I don't know you're talking about
>>749019326>confirmed to only have 5 new enemie
>>748962792>after the first few playthroughsWow, I almost gave up halfway through the first because the game was so lame
>>749019332Are you a bot that can't parse images or something?
I remember the old Dogma threads... The most heated we got was guys debating min max. I fucking hate dogsuno so much bro...
>>749019549NO BASTARD BITCH, YOU MUST BE SAYING DARK ARISEN WAS FIX THE GAME!
>>749019326I don't need "new" monsters, I want MORE GOBLINS with negligible variations in their tactics and equipmentGOBLINS, HOBGOBLINS, KNOB GOBLINS, KNACKERS, CRACKERS, STACKERS, SNOW GOBLINS, TREE GOBLINS, BEACH GOBLINS...
>>748962514>start new save>rush to bbi>loot XP ring with barrel glitch>go hard mode>Repeat those two rings should've been in the base game, leveling vocations fucking sucked even with them
So does the DLC change anything about the base game? I'm gonna guess no as "we fixed the game you already paid for, pay us again" is not a good sales pitch.
>>749019194your statement cancels out both lines of reasoning. You're saying not to play a pre-levelled level 40 character for hard mode on the DLC and you're also saying not to make a fresh hard mode one.Are you retarded?
>>749019895>So does the DLC change anything about the base game?There's 12 dungeons added to the base game region as part of the DLC. Most of the substantial core changes were in a free update a month back (2 more skill slots, more save slots + ability to have multiple characters, etc).
>>749019846>leveling vocations fucking suckedYeah bro, they should have a setting for the game to play itself as well.
>>749019895Some new stuff as >>749019970 said but to be honest the game's main storyline and a lot of stuff surrounding it needs a full revamp. That simply does not make economic sense for Capcom. As you noted selling a "the game is finally as it should have been!" DLC is a lot harder than selling a new region with new quests etc.
>>749019914I’m saying the hard mode DLC is balanced for characters approaching stat caps with end game gear and you won’t naturally reach that level of power doing a fresh hard mode playthrough I didn’t think the way I phrased it was that confusing?
>>749019845We will never get a beach theme DLC with bikini armor and beach goblin wearing coconut hat...
>>748962514I'm going to replay the basegame and go through DA on Switch 2 when it comes out next week! Surely I'll have lots of fun and won't be disappointed!
>>749020056your phrasing was confusing.according to interviews it's also designed for fresh level 1 runs.
>>749013936So the land is safer then?
>>748989019i just found a kratos, too
