Mario is le forgotten.
>its genius>female avatarlol can't make this shit up
>>748962812>Mario Has Been Forgotten, And That's A Good Thing
>>748962812
Niggas really wanna collect stars again
>>748962812Who?
>>748962812Kirby and the forgotten plumber
>>748962812THEY'RE MADE BY DIFFERENT TEAMS YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>748963956Kek
>>748963856That's definitely not a 4chan filename.
>>748962812>Metroid is currently more relevant than Mario... I don't know how to feel about that.
>>748965319what's the best selling switch 2 game?
>>748965408Mario Kart World is widely disliked though. Why is /v/ so CEO brained?
>>748965646>Mario Kart World is widely disliked thoughBecause it's relevant. Why are you so stupid?
>>748965646>>748965408>Mario Kart WorldIsn't it bundled with the console? I wouldn't call it “sold” because, at least in the first year, it was almost impossible to buy a console without MK included
>>748965408not what we're talking about fuckoff
>>748965871>"It's relevant because everyone hates it!"That's some... interesting logic. >>748966230Sales are the ONLY thing that matters ever, according to /v/ and the corpos they worship.
>>748966138Yea, was bundled with the console but sales plummeted once it they stopped. Funnily enough they actually did bring back the bundle not long ago, likely to push holiday sales
>>748962812>and it's geniusNo, it's suicidal. Not having heavy hitters like new 3D Mario/Zelda is a big reason why so many Switch 2 games eat shit saleswise if they don't have bundles.Nintendofags are trying way too hard to sour grapes over this.
>>748966362>That's some... interesting logic. yeah, it makes perfect sense. Prime 4 was forgotten less than a week after release.
>>748963715that's a man who only uses bluesky, buddy
Super Mario Odyssey mindbroke the entire Gen Z populace.
>>748963956Kirby would unironically be a better mascot for Nintendo than Mario
>>748966736by being garbage for toddlers
>>748965646It's only disliked by brown MK8D poorfags.
This isn't a genius strategy. This is "the 3D Mario team gambled 8 years on making breakable terrain work in DK Bananza without downgrading the graphics, so you're not getting a new 3D Mario anytime soon". Nintendo needs to seriously start tardwrangling EPD teams' devtimes and technical ambitions.
>>748966751Kirby is so unpopular that the game announcement retroactively made Metroid Dread more popular
>>748967529Kirby is hugely popular in Japan. Metroid dread’s resurgence has nothing to do with Kirby either.
>>748962812>"WAAAAAAAAH NINTENDO ONLY EVER MAKES MARIOS, WHERE ARE THE METROIDS AND DONKEY KONGS?!">'ok' *makes some metroid and donkey kong games*>"WAAAAAAAAH NINTENDO FORGOT ABOUT MARIOOOOOOO WAAAAHOOOO!!!"I usually don't mind tendie shenanigans, but what the fuck do they want here?
>>748968035nice strawman but it's been almost a decade since the last mainline mario game
>>748968114Yeah, these games take a fucking while to make. People wanted a mainline donkey kong, which took a while to make.
>>748968035>five NES throwback Mario games in six years is bad>no new 3D Mario game at all in a decade is bad too>UMMMMM WOW HYPOCRITE MUCH????
>>748968541>Yeah, these games take a fucking while to makeplease stop acting like casually taking the better part of a decade to make games was always the norm for Nintendo, it's insulting to those of us who actually had Nintendo systems before the Switch
Donkey Kong Bazinga was the Switch 2's 3D Mario
>>748969327no, it was the Switch 2's 3D Donkey Kong
the console was only released last year, give it some time instead of making video essays
>>748967835Irrelevant. Nobody here is Japanese and Japan has horrendous taste.
>>748970693The problem isn't just the lack of a new 3D Mario on Switch 2, it's compounded by Nintendo doing absolutely fucking nothing in light of Odyssey's massive success for the almost 8 entire years the rest of the Switch 1 generation lasted for either. No second new 3D Mario game, no DLC, and they almost never even acknowledged shit from Odyssey in Switch era spinoffs/etc that wasn't a throwback to old games (Pauline, New Donk City, Mario's costumes).
>>748965646It quite literally isn't but stay mad snoygger
>>748966362More like>/v/ hates it because it's popular well made, fun, and cant be piratedSo cope
>>748968035Did you ever consider it's not actual Nintendo fans seething but snoyggers and pctwats false flagging?
>a fucking sequel to a Mario-flavored Minions movie was considered to be the centerpiece of the Super Mario 40th anniversaryI hate what Nintendo has become under Furukawa so, so much.
What are they talking about, Odyssey literally just came out?
>>748970847Nintendo is a Japanese company. Why are talking about them in a thread. They’re irrelevant to you
>>748966969>OOO TRANANA!
>>748966969isn't the new Donkey Kong game basically just a nario game with different skin?Or these people really just want to play as an italian midget?
>>748972213
>>748972307It's really not. People just pretend it is only when it's convenient to lecture people complaining about wanting a new Mario game.
>>748971968It led to some cool toys though so as a snoy that gets to save money and storage space instead of wasting them on a Switch 2, it was worth it.
>>748972350>no counter argumentso it is really just a mario game in everything but name and that's why people pretend it doesn't count.If you want a nintendo platformer game then there you have it.
>>748972881yeah I remember the focus on breakable terrain and the skill trees in Mario games, you fucking faggot>ALL NINTENDO GAME IN BROAD GENRE LE SAMEtry telling typical Pokemon fans to just play Fire Emblem instead of waiting for a new RPG game or Zelda fans to just play Xenoblade instead of waiting for a new adventure game, see how that goes
>>748972881the only people who think nintendo ips are freely interchangeable due to vague gameplay similarities are snoys btw
>>748962812Same as these series.>Twisted Metallast game 14 years ago>Sly Cooperlast game 13 years ago>Ape Escapelast game 15 years ago>Jak and Daxterlast game 17 years ago (14 if you count the PS3/PSV collection)>Infamouslast game 12 years ago>MediEvil and Gravity Rushlast game 9 years ago, just like (non-expansion) 3D Mario platformers
>>748972987>>748973409Nintendo discourse impossible because they pretend not to understand etc. etc. >try telling typical Pokemon fans to just play Fire Emblem instead of waiting for a new RPG game or Zelda fans to just play Xenoblade instead of waiting for a new adventure game, see how that goesPokemon and Fire Emblem aren't by the same devs, but 3D Mario and Bananza are.
>>748973631Fine, goalpost-moving faggot.>try telling typical Paper Mario fans to just play Fire Emblem instead of waiting for a new RPG gameBetter?
>>748973778Cooked that nigger lmao
>>748974740Besides: if someone's gonna be derided as a specific franchise fan, why the fuck are they gonna care about the specific Nintendo devteam behind it? If we're gonna say that, then either DK Bananza or the DKC Returns games shouldn't "count" by this logic since the Returns games were made by Retro Studios and Bananza by EPD8.Oh shit, wait a minute, it's almost like this is insincere company bootlicking that falls apart the more you fucking think about it!
>>748962812>almost all these games have horrible fucking sales legs>but hey that mean old 3D Mario game isn't here to heccin SUFFOCATE them o algo!!!
>>748962812Aren’t Donkey Kong and Mario from the same series anyway?
>>748976696sure but that doesn't make Donkey Kong a Mario game
>>748973778>try telling typical Paper Mario fans to just play Fire Emblem instead of waiting for a new RPG gameNTA but they should. At the very least, buy one game, play it, and avoid the rest if it's not for you.
>>748965646
>>748964403Learn how google works
>>748966362mario kart is not even similar to 3d mario
>>748965646>Mario Kart World is widely disliked
>>748968541Bananza may is well be a new ip it plays like no dk game before it.
>>748972213u-n-c
>>748977415thats a cute image did a mobile browser give it to you?
>>748977727It plays different from the prior 3D Donkey Kong game, but it does do DK extremely well, and I want more of it.
>>748977781i dunno what that means
>>748977727Ummm actually it's a le throwback to DK Arcade because of his face redesign and Pauline being in the game. (I'm shocked I haven't seen Nintendofags sincerely use that one yet.)
>>748972213We're getting close to the point where Odyssey will be older now than Galaxy was when Odyssey came out
>>748966969If Trananza is anything to go by, the next 3D Mario game will allow Mario to noclip his way around a massive laggy map and ignore all the challenges to collect all the stars, occasionally stopping to kill a boss that dies in less than 10 seconds
>>748978935>the last new 3D Mario was 9 years ago>the last wholly new 3D Zelda was almost 10 years agowhat is going on at Nintendo
>>748977415Even if a YouTuber did give it to him, the fact that there are multiple YouTubers parroting that opinion indicates that there's an audience who finds dunking on Nintendo's current overpriced but low-quality slop to be a deeply resonating topic so in trying to disregard his point as inauthentic only proves its authenticity.
>>748979147False, eric.
>>748979147thats just SM64
>>748979279Or just multiple grifters trying in vain to get clicks.
>>748979380The grifters are the ones trying to convince you everything is just fine and every negative about Nintendo is secretly some 4D chess positive
>>748979541If anything, the grifters are the ones trying to convince you everything is terrible and every positive about Nintendo is secretly some 4D chess negative.
Whats a good 3d mario game concept that will sell millions in 2027?
>>748979739>literal "no u" tier post
>>748979827Super Mario Maker 3D, with custom Mario brother you make.
>>748979827What WILL sell? A game that takes gameplay cues from 3DLW (i.e. the classic powerup system) but takes some structural cues from the collectathon games (having goalpost finishes and level timers, but branching level designs that unlock new paths/levels/objectives). Basically, a game inspired by the 2D games but not feeling so strictly like they're throwbacks to just SMB3 (nor levels that feel like they're just built off tile-like geometry).What Nintendo THINKS will sell? Doing another fucking BotW open world.
>>748979848>trying to brush it off as "n-no u">when picrel exists
>>748979848>I can just project freely or else the truth is le no ulol
>>748979827Literally "Focus, M.".The next Mario game will attract people who play modern Naughty Dog and Insomniac games, while having the same good gameplay like Nintendo games typically do.
>>748980154Screw you, eric, for implying that open worlds are bad because you hate Nintendo.I think that the next Mario will have multiple open worlds.Like, different levels you can travel to, but each one is the size of Hyrule from BotW.Think Super Mario Odyssey's structure, but the different levels are expanded to each be its own BotW-sized open world.It could explain why this new Mario game has taken as long as it has taken to develop.
>>748962812"Super" Mario bros. PROCLAIM. HIS. NAME.
>>748980657You've got some of the 'tism. Fraid so.
>>748965646MKW is GOAT
>>748962812Mario will stay forgotten until morale improves with other franchises.
>>748981954>recency bias
I do think something went wrong behind the scenes. No new Mario, no new Zelda. The biggest game on the horizon is a remake of an N64 title. Software output seems to have slowed.Ordinarily, with the launch of a new console, you'd assume that they'd at least announce a brand new flagship title. Maybe DK Bananza was meant to be that, but I don't really feel that DK has the same star power as Mario and Zelda, at least not anymore.
>>748981549Okay FangFox.
>>748973450>>MediEvil and Gravity Rush>last game 9 years ago, just like (non-expansion) 3D Mario platformersKnack's last game also came out in 2017.Nintendo cares about Mario as much as Sony cares about Knack.
>>748962812Reminder that Nintendo considers Bowser's Fury a new main entry 3D Mario game and it's onky been 5 years since that released so we probably won't get a new 3D mario gane until next year or the year after
>>748982768Not giving up on or scaling back technically-intensive gimmicks for games meant to release in the late Switch 1 era (the ones holding back 3D Zelda and 3D Mario were Ultrahand and Fuse in TotK, and breakable terrain in Bananza) is one of the big culprits.
>>748983031The logic is that since no one bought a wii u they may as well appeal to the non-wii-u-buyers above the few who did. So 3D-World is treated as analogous to a brand new game for a majority of the audience, even 3DS-havers who had 3D Land.
>>748983031>we probably won't get a new 3D mario gane until next yearThe leaks said next year, so that is correct.
Is thousand year door on switch (the remake) fully emulated? Which switch emu do i even get like half of them are shut down or something?
>>748962812Braindead to assume that an intelligent gigacorporation would ever forget about its flagship, and, in this case, isn't just at an impasse in developing the successor title to its previous magnum opus.
>>748964282grim.
>>748964403I don't get how anyone just saves pictures with no name and expects to find and use it. I have 7000 files in my folder it would be impossible to find the right pictures without a keyword to search.
>>748969327Only low IQ people think the team only developed a port of 3D World with a short campaign and Bananza over 8 years, and that Nintendo would enter a new console generation without a 3D Mario being prepared. They wouldn't be so naive to think DK would sell as well as Mario.
>>748977932>anon still mindbroken about smartphones which have been a thing for 20 years now.
>>7489669693D Mario not being revealed doesn't mean Bananza is all they worked on for 8 years retard. 8 years is a ridiculous amount of time. We also know that Bananza was pretty much complete for some time before release.
>>748972881You're retarded for trying to make that argument when it's clear you haven't even played either game.
>>748973409It makes complete sense when you think about it.
>>748986802Which one of these will be remembered in 10 years (inb4 "none" I know but there has to be an exception)
>>748986802Fuck. It actually does.
>>748986802I don’t get it. Explain it to me like I’m high on dude weed lmao
>>748985982I remember what images are near the other images kind of like a landmark
>>748979191Nintendo doesn't want to mainly be a vidya company anymore. They want to be a lifestyle and multimedia brand that families and diehard loyalists flock to. Dev times and budgets are getting more and more bloated so why not simply hire some studio to release a Mario movie? Or a Mario theme park? Or some merch? What about literal toddler toys? The brand will stay in people's minds even without actual vidya.>umm but they still release video games bro they just announced this game and that gameYes, they still release game because they're slowly and gradually trying to revamp their focus instead of completely dropping everything at once>but the office building for their devs just got biggerYes, due to larger and larger teams being "needed" for the games they still work on.
>>7489722139 years ago. Can I borrow your cryogenic pod until ES6 comes out?
>>748990915As someone who owns a Switch 2, and so many great games for it that I love, I say that all the Switch 2 needs is the best 3D Mario game there ever was, and it will be the best console of all time, if all it had was its 2027 3D Mario, and no other games, it would still be the best console ever, because Mario is the best gaming franchise.It's a good thing that there are other games for the Switch 2, that I love so.I have bought more games for my Switch 2 than the games I got for my Switch 1.
>>748986802If I didn't already know some of these games, I would have sworn that they were screenshots of the same game.
>>748962812AND IT'S A GOOD THING!
>>748972307Bananza has some of the same DNA as Odyssey, but they really aren't comparable experiences. It's like saying Devil May Cry is just Resident Evil with a different skin.
>>748982905Don't try to shift focus here; as you can see, for one bing not to get entries in years there are at least 7 more from Playstation-only series.
>>748962812>and that's a good thing
>>748993568I love how he had to specify that it's 3D Mario platformers because otherwise SMB Wonder would have shot his argument down flat.Then again, it still shoots down his argument because it and stuff like Mario Kart World, The Super Mario Galaxy Movie, and Mario Tennis Fever releasing the last year and this year shows that Nintendo still cares about Mario more than Sony cares about Knack.
>>748967835Kirby is hugely popular everywhere, honestlythe series grew massively through the 3DS and Switch era
>>748962812mario was never good. i guess it was impressive when atari games was all you had but i have never played a single mario game that made me glad i have experienced it. especially 3d marios which are the videogame equivalent of a bouncy castle and present no challenge
>>748962812I keep saying that Nintendo was so sure DK Bananza was going to be their next 3D Mario and sell 40 million copies for the next 5-10 years and thus needing no new 3D Mario. Obviously that didn't happen, I loved the shit out of it but it barely sold over 4 million copies.
>>748986919if thats unchated 4, that
>>748995498That's because you have garbage taste.
>>748973450>Twisted Metal4 games in 5 years.>Sly Cooper3 games in 3 years.>Ape Escape3 games in 6 years.>Jak and Daxter3 games in 3 years.>Infamous3 games in 2 years.Do you see the difference? These are all Assassin's Creed-tier rehash slop. They stopped being made because fans were sick and tired of playing the same shit over and over again every 1-2 years.
>>748962812Rabbids are a fucking curse I tell ya. They killed Rayman, now they killed Mario.
Nintendo has the weirdest fucking methodology. They're fine with shit like Gamefreak being absolute dogshit just because it's a partnership with them and TPC, but Mario can't be milked because Miyamoto is clenching his asshole so hard on someone's cock until he's absolutely certain he has a gem and it's only when he's on a crack bender do we get a stream of meh like NSMB.
