Now that the dust has settled, how do we feel about them? I thought FF1-3 looked good but 4-6 were massive downgrades.
>>748963000Definitive way to play all 6 games
>>748963107>Definitive way to play all 6 gamesFor 1 and 2 maybe, wouldn't say that for the rest of the games. I do like how the FF3 PR has better balancing so most jobs are viable for the endgame.
I still dunno why they didn't have the bonus content. Same with Tactics
>>748963618>I still dunno why they didn't have the bonus content. Same with TacticsSquare wanted them to be 1:1 with the NES and SNES originals
>>748963679>Square wanted them to be 1:1 with the NES and SNES originalsBut some of them weren't, in FFIV you can buy sirens on the moon despite them being a rare, non-purchasable drop in the original.
>>748963679and i have no idea whenever they get into a crossing, square enix (mostly just square side) will always ALWAYS pick the wrong path all the fucking time. have they made a single good decision in the past decade? they're so lucky their fanbase is stupid as fuck and will bail them out of anything
>>748963679Well none of them are even close
>>748963679This is and has always been a terrible argument. The bonus content has always been largely optional. There's literally nothing wrong with including a few optional dungeons for the people who actually want to play them. People who don't want to, can freely ignore them.
>>748963679Why are there so many bad Final Fantasy ports and remasters?FF1>Dawn of Souls GBA / PSP>no more spell charges, now casters have a modern MP system and can effectively just freecast as much as they want>player damage in general is pretty much doubled, enemy health was increased too but not as much>tons more dialogue pretty much everywhere>classes entirely rebalanced, black belts are now super OP from the very start, red mages aren't as good as they used to be, white mages are actually useful now>certain other mechanics like "top party member is most likely to get hit" were removed>Pixel Remaster giving you a lot more recovery options and far more magic. It adds ethers which make the whole limited resource thing completely mootFF4>FFIV USA is the Easy version of the game which stripped out a lot of abilities and made everything easier>GBA ATB bug>FF4 Pixel Remaster is much easier than FFIV JPN SFCFF6>FF6 Pixel Remaster looks worse than SNEShttps://x.com/dark1x/status/1996706609481851233FF7>Eidos or whatever porting company they used got an earlier build of the game>MIDI was used and included a Yamaha softsynth as well as a Soundfont >The battle UI now operates at 15 FPS instead of 60FPSFF10>FFX HD Remaster came with updated character models. Those are not only very ugly, they had completely different bones so the existing facial animations could not be used, most of it was discarded or "simplified", this lead to the characters not emoting properly or looking even worse
>>748963000>6FF6 sprites were a bit offLike there's a bit of perspective in the ff6 sprites that the remaster didn't take into account, so Terra looks like she's dragging her knuckles while she's walking up on the screen.>5I don't like how the pr ff5 sprites make it look like they have no shoulders and puff up their chests.¨Used gba backgrounds as a base that were better looking than snes backrounds, but the framing is all wrong with too much dead space.>4Didn't notice anything off with ff4, but I've looked less at it.
>>748963618Glad they didn't because it sucks.
>>748964339>I don't like how the pr ff5 sprites make it look like they have no shoulders and puff up their chests.¨so that's why they always looked so off, I couldn't put my finger on it and thought I was just being a purist or something.
>>748964384NO!
I'm just surprised nobody is seriously modding Resident Evil.
I ended up picking it up for convenience but I do wish it just include roms of the original games.>>748963146>For 1 and 2 maybeidk, I like the original simple pixel art and it doesn't include any of the bonus stuff from earlier remakes.
I'm just surprised nobody is seriously modding the Pixel Remasters (sorry I was in an RE thread and my brain just farted, had an intense gym session so probably lost some oxygen lol)
>>748964339GBA release changed the backgrounds?
I wonder if the original FF games would ever get the FF7 Remake treatment, It'd be cool to see these places realised in 3D (accurately, which 7 remake sometimes failed at.)>>748964916There's some out there but yeah I feel these games have that "fans will fix it feel" people have for Bethesda games.
>>7489630001 was fine, it was cool having Vancian magic again. Likely definitive if you prefer that spell system.2 was fine, but GBA was better because Rebirth of Souls rocks.3 was great, I'd argue it's the best version of FFIII out there.4 sucked, the one hit hardest by having none of the extra content.5 sucked because the sprites just looked bad, full stop.Never played 6PR, I assume it looked bad as well. Homogenizing NES and SNES sprites will inevitably lead to the SNES sprites looking worse.Mystic Quest PR any day now.
>>748965194yeah I'm just surprised they haven't done shit or backported a lot of the cool mods like ff6 t edition or ff4 BNW (I think this sucks though).
>>748965210>Mystic Quest PR any day now.I wonder why they haven't remastered Mystic Quest but actually made it challenging? It had a lot of unique and unconventional mechanics for a game of its kind, would love to see that philosophy translated again.
>>748965618why do you want the game that was specifically designed to teach people how the genre works to be difficult? go play phantasy star 2
>>748965753Challenge doesn't mean difficult, and FFIV is a game that did a better job at being beginner friendly without being nearly as brandead piss easy as Mystic Quest.
>>748965618The problem with making such a simple RPG difficult is that it either turns into an RNG fest (get this % Crit or you lose) or it turns into ostensibly a Puzzle RPG where you have to find the 'correct' solution to a boss.You'd have a better shot rebuilding it from the ground up so that you actually keep Party Members and you can round out to a full 4-man party near the end. I love the idea of a 1-2 man party but it's just not conducive to actual RPG design most of the time. Mario only does it by cheating with action commands.
>>748964308>Waaa waa waa Vanician magic system is goneBro it's flawed af, it only becomes tolerable near endgame but that's when you essentially max everything
>>748963000Good and charming games, but they would be unplayable if not for the fast forward button, because the brainless, X-spamming combat is total shit.
>>748968612It's not flawed, it works fine in the game and changing it changes the game massively. There are large benefits to later games using MP, but backporting that to a game that wasn't designed around it would be like porting ATB to the first three games. A good system in a game it's not designed for can be bad.
>>748968991Anon...if I have the ability to heal both my teammates or a single ally under the same level that's retarded in so many levels, that the consequence is stripped because it makes the former the objective choice.
They mostly got better over time, with the exceptions of 2 and 6. But 6 is still good.
>>748969276is 1-6 you ranking based on PR, originals or 3000 versions you probably played
>>748969376It's an amalgam of the original versions I played on emulators in the 2000s, and the modern Pixel Remasters I own on Steam, of course.
>>748963000Going to be blunt I hate these so called remasters if you can't make sprites that at least look better than the PSP sprites for FF1 and 2 then Square Enix can go to Hell. These games look cheap and tacky and if they didn't have the Final Fantasy brand they would be called out for the shit that they are. Golden Sun has better sprites than this. And the few quality of life improvements aren't enough to sustain this. This entire thing is a rip off.
>>748963000Why these shitty Super Nintendo remasters all have frame-rate issues, stutter and screen tear? What are they doing??
>>748969682>Going to be blunt I hate these so called remasters if you can't make sprites that at least look better than the PSP sprites for FF1 and 2 then Square Enix can go to Hell.because they were capturing the NES aesthetic and modernised it you fucking troglodyte
>>748969781>>748969847you delete your post to fix a question mark but don't add a "do"?
>>748963963>have they made a single good decision in the past decade?No more exclusives for Sony.
>>748963618I don't give a fuck about "bonus content".
I just wish Square Enix didn't always half ass everything. There's no reason the game shouldn't at least run perfectly smooth and have more options to customize things to your liking.Even with things as simple as the text, it's crazy how they had no "pixel" option and then even when they did add it it still looks way worse than the original. On PC at least you can "mod" them extremely easily, but with something so simple the option should just be there and there should be multiple.(Then for actual mods to heavily customize things and make them way better they break everything with updates too)
>>748963107Demake fags go back
>>748963107FPBP.
>>748963000They're OK, better than the delisted mobile versions, but they should've been given a lot more love from Square-Enix. They feel cheap, and way too homogenized. Music sounds good at least.
>>748963107The FFIV 3D Remake is the best thing Team Asano has ever made.
The weird modern UI and shitty video effects completely pulp the games, I just want the first 6 games in the style of Dawn of Souls. Clean, nice pixel art, a cohesive UI, and some quality of life changes. That's it. It's not rocket science, they did it in 2004.
