>thanks to AI you can now decompile an entire game and make it run natively on PC in a matter of weeks instead of yearsBetter take advantage of this while you still can before the lawyers get involved and the feature gets taken away like what happens every other time AI does something based that corpos don't like (RIP Elevenlabs)
>>748966893>AI will never beat humans at chess>AI will never beat humans at Go>AI can't understand language, it just pattern-matches>AI can't generate coherent text longer than a few sentences>AI art is just averaging existing images, it has no creativity>AI can't count the R's in strawberry>AI can't do basic arithmetic reliably>AI can't write real code, it just copies Stack Overflow>AI can't reason, it's just next-token prediction>AI can't plan more than a few steps ahead>AI hallucinations prove it's fundamentally broken>AI can't code properly>AI can't make games>AI can only mod existing games>AI can't make new ideas>AI can't do original research>AI can't replace real artists/musicians/writers because it has no soul>AI agents are just demos, they fall apart in the real world>AI still needs humans in the loop for everything important>AI can write code but it can't maintain large complex codebases>AI can make simple games but not AAA titles>AI can generate ideas but they aren't truly novel>AI can do research assistance but not paradigm-shifting science>AI agents can do tasks but aren't reliable enough for unsupervised work>AI still can't match top human experts in [remaining hard domain]>The economic impact is overhyped, productivity gains are marginal>AI can do most cognitive work but still needs human oversight>AI can invent new things but doesn't understand them like humans>True AGI requires embodiment/consciousness/[philosophical requirement]>We're hitting diminishing returns, next leaps will take decades>AI is plateauing because of data/energy/compute limits>AI can do everything better than humans but still isn't conscious>Superintelligence is possible but alignment is impossible so we'll never deploy it>Even if AI is smarter, humans will always be needed for values/meaning>The singularity already happened and nothing fundamentally changed>Okay fine, but it still can't [insert the one remaining thing that defines humanity]
AIjeets should all be round up and shot.
>>748966893preach
>>748966893Sorry, but a fast, souless and desperate for attention method isn't something that has a future. I don't care how fact you proompted your "decomp" if it's half-assed.
>>748966893thank you saar!
>>748967114If it's decompiled, resulting in source code that produces a binary-matching executable when compiled that can then be modularized, decoupled, and reimplemented for other processing environments then that is a great step forward.The problem is all we're getting are recompilations - games that are just the game you already played somewhere else but on a different platform with no upgrades beyond the nominal ones like resolution and framerate bumps.
>>748967114yeah, the one-off decomps are gay and meaningless. what i'm looking forward to is autistic modding projects with some actual content/gameplay. like diablo 2 is already super moddable with tard-friendly txt-defined coding, but with LLMs you can make it so the game is 100% txt defined allowing you to do anything just by filling out cells in a spreadsheet
>>748966893I'm honestly surprised how quiet Nintendo has been concerning all this. Obviously streisand effect and such but they usually go right for the throat for these sorts of things.
>>748967349I've always thought they were leery of trying to provoke a suit in a situation they actually can't win because if some lawyer comes to the defense of their target and is willing to do it pro bono then they're probably fucked when it goes to court, resulting in a precedent that they'll never be able to get around down the line.No one's using copyrighted Nintendo tools to do this, they're just taking advantage of resources that can unravel their products, meaning Nintendo has no legal recourse.
>>748966893>thanks to AIbecause of AI my life progressively worse and worse and the main users of this dogshit tech are worthless hacks multiplying slop>>748967024tpbp, /thread
>>748967248>If it's decompiled, resulting in source code that produces a binary-matching executable when compiled that can then be modularized, decoupled, and reimplemented for other processing environmentsDoes it count if you're using it to translate a disassembly that already exists to a modern programming language?Because that's what I'm doing with a couple of NES games atm, it's pretty fun
Why do sloppers refuse to accept that they're polluting the Internet?Whenever I call someone out on whatever egregious error I can identify I typically get a "tee hee, oopsie, just messing around and I guess I forgot to check!"
Just a subscription is what you need to make your dream games come true, are you really going to pass out on that?
>>748967507I don't see the harm as long as you as a human are the one providing the QA on the back end and not just throwing your results back at an AI to QA for you because you have no idea what happened between putting it in and when it came back out.
>>748967568The absolute highest tier is 2,000 dollars which is less than 1/33 of my salary and I make below average
>>748966893I ask it to do something and it says it can't use copyrighted material without permission so I don't get why you guys shill it with these lies
will the AI meme die soon
>>748967554Don't look at me, I keep my slop to myselfFor example I've been using Stable Diffusion since 2022, but aside from the designated image AI threads on /g/ and /h/ I don't post any of it online>>748967690never lol, if the AI bubble ever bursts say goodbye to the economy
>>748967690First off, the bubble will burst. There is no way around it.Now, what does that actually mean? Besides tons of economic worries and some of the higher companies going caput? Probably not that much. AI is here to stay as a cancer.There's gonna be some sort of incident that will finally reveal the dangers of AI to the world at large and the question is if it will be too late by then or not.
>>748967759>goodbye to the economyGood.
>>748967000You should kill yourself, honestly.
>>748967759>AI threads on /g/ and /h/ You left a board out. I know what you are.
I would wonder during history classes covering the Industrial Revolution, how could the general population be so retarded that they could actually think their individual occupations were more important than the massive automation potential of the machines which were replacing them, but here we are
>>748967000No AI could tie a noose strong enough for your fat ass
>>748967830lmao troon behavior
>>748968017Yeah they were so retarded for not wanting the rich to get richer and for wages to perpetually decrease. Are you jewish per chance?
>>748968013What, the furry one on /trash/? Because I'm not a furry
>>748966893Have any games gotten multiple decomps yet? Considering how easy these are, yet are often missing features, that seems like an inevitable outcome
>>748966893>>748967000>>748967759
>>748967000>Seething tranny has to edit out their visage
>>748968017Workers actually went around thrashing machines as means of protestThat's how we stopped the industrial revolution oh wait
>>748968257>It's no use, goy. Just lay down and let me stomp your head into paste. This is inevitable.Luddites were based.
>>748968135I'm British
>>748967024White mans hobby.
>>748967759>if the AI bubble ever bursts say goodbye to the economythats clearly whats going to happen soon enough
>>748968417your skin is brown, you aren't British
>>748966893>be given AI tools>use AI tools to do something>NO NOT LIKE THATEvery. Fucking. Time.
>>748968417Post teeth
Okay, but use case? How will this change video games for me?
Noob hereWhy are recomps more popular than decomps?Surely decomps are the way to go? Why half-ass it with recomps? Is there a new model or something that's enabling all this? I feel like decomps/recomps and emulators (and probably those Denuvo cracks too) have blown up in the past few months
>>748968784GPT-6 astra. And a static recomp doesn't require a 100% decomp to do, it just helps.
>>748968596British citizenship =/= British ethnicityThat picture lists AI users by country, not by racebut yes my skin is brown, my family's from Africa
>>748968784what's even the difference between recomp and decomp
>>748967568>price in rupees lol nice detail
>>748968784decomp is turning the game's code into readable code to be compiled again for the original hardware, recomp is taking that code and porting it to somewhere (PC 99% of the time)
>>748969068huh interesting, thanks
>>748968971From my understandingRecomps directly "translate" the code from one "language" to another. So, it isn't very modifiable and only translates in that one language Decomps also "translate" too, but to actual, reable, modifiable code. That code can then be more easily "translated" to other languages/platforms.
>>748968914>GPT-6 astraI thought Claude was the new kid on the block and OpenAI models were "washed", as the kids say?
>>748967687Because you're likely giving it data from the game itself, which is illegalYou should be giving it source code
>>748968784>Why half-ass it with recomps?It's quicker and literally all of these vibe coded recomps are just done for clout and twitter impressions. If you've actually tried any of these AI recomps that have gotten shit out in the last few months, almost all of them have terrible performance and run worse than just playing the game on an emulator. They don't actually care about making the ports good because there's no real passion behind these projects.
>>748966893chinese distilled enough of claude to opensource it in 2 weeks
I think the community is wasting its time churning out recompliations. AI-assisted decompilation is where it's at and one area I think anti-AI sentiment is actually causing a negative effect. AI-assisted decompilation should be where the energy is spent instead of these dime-a-dozen recompilations that aren't helping progress things the way they should be going.
>>748969332Opus 5.5 is much smarter than GPT-6, yeah
>>748967000Tendonigger>missed gta5>missed cod/bf>missed all racing gamesWill miss>gta6>dlss5>claude gamesEnjoy your donkeykong on switch2 that tastes like human shit lpl
PS5 games are already being recompiled with AI, at this rate PC will probably get GTA 6 by the end of the year
Elevenlabs is still up and functional
>>748968350Instead of seething at ai like delusional niggers that kill doctors that gift them ebola vaccines, attack niggers, kikes, politicians and judges so you get fair divedents from ai singularity productivity boom and it is not used to make you a serf>I would rather destroy my nations competitiveness than be racist and anti semitic
>>748969335Its making me custom Bloodmoney maps right now
>>748968784Recomps are just busywork based on generic solutions already crafted by nerds. Decomps require actual intellectual work to get going and AI has yet to get good enough to let brownoids crank these out every day.
>>748966893People use it for the "mario in tekken" memery, but it's pretty cool that you can theoretically tangent from this into making proper asset extractors/converters for more obscure games. Weird how i haven't seen someone try that yet.>>748967690I give it 2 years until the memory shortage creeps into important equipment (Like medical or automotive industry) manufacturing contracts and the pushback comes from the actual major players rather than some insignificant nobodies crying about their PCs. Followed by ~5 years of economy rebounding from a crash that will follow once the AI companies fail to pay like 2 or so trillions of debt.In other words, Soon(tm)
>>748967000>>AI will never beat humans at GoWhat is Go?
>>748966893Honestly, it's cool if you want to mod a game, but it's still all just derivative works, nothing original. Maybe in due time, but not just yet.
>>748970142The odd part is that they're mostly derivative works of older games, games that only took a few years and a small team to make anyway. And now with all these advanced and AI tools available games are still slower to make and shittier than ever.If productivity is going up this is a weird way of showing it.
>>748966893No, you can't. Decomping even 30k functions will take a shitass time.
>>748968135bell curve with retards and smart people going "fuck it trust the system" and only tryhard spastics freaking out about it
>>748969780It also stagnated horribly. I swear they keep nerfing it somehow each year.
>>748969931I think you actually can do a "Proper" (As in, it works like one, not necessarily good) recomp with AI tools, but it will require some manual code audit and knnw-how than just pasting renames into Ghidra and no one is just bothering with that because everyone wants to ride on the hype wave.>>748968017>>748968103The thing with industrial revolution was, however, that skilled craftsmen could still translate their old pre-automatization skills onto new machinery since all the foundations were still the same. There was still economy-based bullshit happening all around, of course, but a skilled specialist was always a benefit to the mass production shop rather than a rudiment.Hopefully this is how this ends, with actual knowledgeable professionals using AI tools as an aid to simplify their jobs, rather than the entire "Replace all humans lmao" bullshit Altman and Co. keep peddling. But that would also require a complete annihilation of india.
>>748970124That game with the black and white dots.The one that isn't Shogi.
>>748966893Why should I care about this when emulators have existed for decades and playing a non-PC game on a PC is as easy as downloading a ROM/ISO and opening it with an emulator?
>>748971064Oh shit right, I dont know why I thought board games werent relevant when that is right after chess
>>748969931I think AI could help a lot, the problem is people with programming talent to get the most out of it don't want to touch it.Like this is a context-specific area where AI should be helping. It's not replacing your job, it's helping you do something that might have been out of reach without it.
>>748970380Fair point, only argument to that I can make is that it's still relatively new, so we'll see in like half to a year's time to see how things will change for gamedev in general. But for the time being we're still stuck with shit games that take way too long to make.
>>748971162honestly yeah but generally 7th gen and UP games really benefit from recomps. you can run them on toasters now if the dev did the work I.E. actually mapped the say 360 to native dx API.
>>748966893>RIP ElevenlabsI use that site all the time to make cutscenes and voice lines for my game, never had any issues with it outside of finding the video generation a little expensive.
>>748971162Theoretically a decompiled game would be much easier to mod any way you wantI saw someone turn Mario 64 into an RPG, can't do that with a ROM hack
Now new decomp announcements are >game you love has been ported to PC!>look inside>wildly inaccurate emulation, full of bugsPeople are so addicted to the praise but they don't want to do the work to earn it.
>>748969840We're being competitive at the expense of giving the population less opportunity down the line.Like it just seems like we're going to end up widening the wealth gap and making less available for more.
>>748971409>can't do that with a ROM hackDepends on what ROM is being hacked and how autistically.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bU6_SjbJE
>>748967000I wish moot never met with Steve Bannon. Cancer.
>>748967024As I've said before, faith freaks getting AI psychosis is one of the best outcomes of AI becoming popular. They're so deep into their theology that they fail to simply say "AI is not human"
>>748966893Fable 5.5 is going to DEMOLISH /v/
>>748972704it'll be expensive, though
decompiling harvest moon, what do you think
>>748974778nice, someone will be able to fix RF3's port now, restoring the original dialogue.It's possible to do manually but it would take so long lol, AI will be able to do it in like 5 minutes
>>748967000The only thing good about ai slop is that it will kill all ai slopper genes after they wall themselves off into a pleasure cube and never breed. This is a good thing because most ai sloppers are thirdworlders.
>>748968417It's not different than being indian nowdays
