His ult is retarded. How do you counter it?
>flies away:)
>>748969876why'd the make him so hot
>>748969876The amount of characters this game directly rips off from league is actually shameless>b-but league copied dotaLeague copied the art style, not just stole the actual fucking characters.Its ok when the fat jew does it, i guess
>>748969876>tank class>fast as shit, the fastest deadlock character in the entire game>fast gun>all the lane controlling abilities>becomes unstoppable with his ult + team yoshi is a retarded fagget that doesn't even play his own game, only a discord tranny group gets to playtest these updates before release
>>748969876Any reason as to why they made him spread his legs like that? He seems like a porn character
>>748970409It's a rat guy. What do you want a rat guy to look like?
>>748971115Legs spread out is usually a design choice to make a character seem uncompromising or unbothered
>>748971115That's just what rats look like.
>I unload an entire magazine into an enemy>barely even tickles him>enemy grazes me with two bullets>1/3 of my health instantly goneHow do I make my gun shootier
>>748971115>filthy gross sewer ratman>'he looks like a porn character'Anon...
>>748970409>league of legends invented rats
>>748972359See what resistance they're building and counter that
>>748969876End the game before he has maxed ult :) I have no idea how they thought the ult was remotely fine.
>>748970409riotchinks are so raped by deadlock existing
>Deadlock finally gets a pornbait character and instantly rockets to the best sellers listIt's as shrimple as rat.
>>748970409lolfags and pokefags are so much alike
>>748970409>league copied the artstyle I didn't know wc3 dota had tranime artstyle.
>>748972281YOU JUST KNOW
>>748969876If you are playing a m1gger buy AP rounds. It works against anyone in his banners range.
>>748972874How does it actually work with rats and other defense reductions? Let's say an enemy has 50 gun defense, you've reduced it to 25, and then you use this item, will it be 0 or -25?
I just warpstone and banish this nigga to the hotel anytime I see him ulting
>DEIlock
>>748970409Bait used to be so believable
>>748972874Do peopla actually buy this item? Isn't bullet resist one of the weakest stat in the game besides bullet velocity? They should just make this thing do extra damage to shields.
>>748974135>cuts the effectiveness of plated armor in half
who's coming next?
They shouldntve made a character this hot. I can't lane anymore without having to pause and jerk off
>>748974360Sure hope danny but the americans love their niggers
>>748974360Solomon seems like the next most popular. After that probably Danny, Baba/Harrow, Violet.
>>748974360Violet>asian girlBasically guaranteed.
>>748970409>League copied the art style, not just stole the actual fucking characters.Is this a joke? lmao
>>748969876>Ult is 20% Damage Reduction that can be upgraded to 35% >12-20 Second Duration>24-31 RadiusWhat the actual fuck were they thinking? Did they forget how people hate comeback Rift buffs or Wraith Pact?
>>748970409That's right, nigger. Valve now steals from your game now and made it far more relevant, because lol's playstyle was always literally just WoW's playstyle.
>>748969876>jetpack>flamethrower >100% has a suicide ult that will kill you and prob give him a 5s respawnDannybrowns are delusional, hes going to be even more broken than the rat.
>>748975060All new heroes are always broken on release
>>748975113why would you add him to ranked then?
>>748974135Typically AP rounds are weak because very rarely people will build bullet resists. But against a Rat King is guaranteed value.
>>748975185because they don't give a shit. Valve will release patches during tournaments and April Fools all same heroes
>>748970409>people falling for this dogshit bait
>>748975113Doorman honestly wasn't that bad on release, just buggy as fuck
>>748975285>release patches during tournamentswho cares about nightshift
>people calling rat op>the side that has him has lost 6/7 games i've played with him present
>lives in sewers in NY >Wants genocide>Ugly rat>Even his allies are treated by him like shit, billy won't even be able to buy real estate if rat winsIs he (((them)))
>>748971115>why does he make me want to kneel down and suck his uncircumsized smelly unwashed cock? hmmm....I think that might be a (You) problem...
>>748975659no one will ever win because they're in a deadlock
Nah I'm pretty sure it's still Seven, the guy who was so evil that they brought in 7 of the greatest magic wielders to his execution so that his soul would be destroyed so he couldn't be summoned or resurrected. But sure the engineer for le evil company is worse.Fucking idiot.You should kill yourself.
>>748976132>literally what - literally who
>>748975602Rat King has a 100% win rate in every match I've played today, both on mine and enemy teams.
>>748970409No one is stealing leagues korean fujo-bait characters you retard.
just focus or cc him while he's holding up the flag before planting it, I've seen so many ult cancels on him
>>748976132you ok bro?
Literally just walk away lol
>>748970409Call Warhammer, apparently Riot invented rat people and they want to copyright strike them.
>>748976440Odd.
>>748974360Yakub.
>>748975602>pop ult>literally nobody on your team can diei don't know what kind of games you're playing
>>748976440I've fought against him today and won.
>>748976924the games where the "me carry" players get him, build nothing but gun and die on cd probably
>>748976940RT is just a worse Mo
>>748969876Just walk away retard
>>748975602His ult not only wins team fights but the cd is so fucking low its ready for every fight
queues are long for 200k players, then again i do have 500 hours and im coming back from 2024
>>748970409Little Timmy learning in real time that nothing is truly original. Even you complaining like a faggot has been done before :)
>just walk away and give up every objective bro
>>748969876Sweet baby inc woke game
>>748976132>Mass murderer who manages to kill maybe 300 people totalVS>Engineer who designs technology that ruins the lives of millions of people Gee, I wonder why someone might think McGinnis is more evil?
>>748976132There's a pretty reasonable case to be made that Seven isn't THAT evil. No confirmed kills beyond the people that showed up to see his soul annihilated. He's proudly ambitious and merciless, but he's cordial and even friendly to people if it suits him like when he warns Rem to avoid the feds just because.McGinnis is evil in a banality of evil kind of way, she would build the supernatural equivalent of the atom bomb and probably sleep like a baby if it got dropped on an Ixian population center. I would probably still feel personally safer around McGinnis than Seven but Drifter, Geist, maybe Mina, Vyper, Wraith and Yamato I think are more likely to fuck you over for little to no reason.
>>748979109>an engineer at lockheed is more evil than general buttnakedkek
>>748969876Just walk away, nigga.
>>748979281Oh, and Calico. Calico might be the single worst person on the cast. Close competition with Drifter but the "I'm just a professional" larp is somehow more repulsive than the "this is just what I am" shtick.
my le deployable niggablaster 8000... kills le niggablacks...?
>>748972423They knew what they were doing when they made this. You can't convince us otherwise.
>>748969876Where are his iconic massive rat balls?
I can't aim, who should I play?
>>748979487>Just give the objective and lose the game bro
>>748979730be like the fly, play graves
>>748969876amazing how quickly the tune changed from early yesterday's "this character is trash"
>>748979730Either Graves or McG.
>>748979834You mean the kneejerk "i shot Abrams in base once or twice and he didnt die this character is TRASH" attention seeking posts weren't an accurate representation of how strong the Rat is? Thats crazy dude
>>748970409League is just a dumbed down wow and a shittier version of Heroes of Newerth. But you could play that game and see how shitty and gay the players were, it’s like taking the worst wow players and giving them an ego to boot. If you play league of legends you should genuinely kill yourself
The Ult should be able to be countered. I don't understand why you can't stop, stun, disables. The fucking banner lasts for 20 seconds. I've stomped two games with the fucking rat. It hits like a fucking truck with a spammable protection ability that makes the damage he takes flat and gives him a fuckhuge barrier. The problem is the ult. The radius is too big, it hits too much, it gives damage reduction, it gives speed. IT does everything. You plant that on any contested place on the map and you will win it or deny it because you have to run away.
>>748980068anyone who can read>AoE slow immunity and damage resist aura for 20+ secondsand think whatever character it's attached to is trash is retarded.
>>748980221It's super weird to me it can't be removed like the tombstone, I really don't get it. I agree the ult does way too much. I think they should get rid of his borderline placeholder grenade ability and move some functionality from the ult over to his first spell.
Can we buff Graves ult now?
>>748969876>How do you counter it?Play Sinclair and steal his ult. You literally become a better Rat King, it's retarded.
>>748980757just place the rat banner and watch the ghouls go mach speed.
Is Victor a good character to try and learn the game with if I’ve played other MOBAs before
>>748970409I'll eat the bait, post the rat man that is also a self-proclaimed king of the sewers.
>>748980850>bad aura manI guess. But her has a self-damage mechanic which could fuck you over.
>>748976940How are you supposed to tell what's going on when everyone started spamming their light show abilities at the same time (like at the middle of the webm)?
>>748974360Danny, Solomon, Violet, Baba, Harrow in that order
>>748981146all thats pretty readable if you know what the characters domid fights get way more chaotic than that
>>748981146>>748981465it's also more readable when you're not watching with an 800 bitrate
>>748980632Hes made street brawl nearly unplayable. First two guardians, just dump the flag on tower and you cant contest itGod forbid you go up against him and paige
>>748981146You get used to it, for the most part. But even after 100 hours, which I know isn't a whole lot, I'll still just find myself in seizure inducing light show, and 3 milliseconds later I'm dead. Happens occasionally.
>>748981146Midboss fights are always hectic. But normally, there is a lot less going on, and every ability has a very distinct visual and sound.
>>748970221I don't see itToo many cartoonishly exaggerated proportions
is it nerfed yet?
using this build on rat king and its kind of raping people to death
I have a low IQ, but I like this game. So far, I have enjoyed playing Warden(love Warden), Paige, Billy, Seven and sometimes Haze and Paradox. I hate to play Infernus, Bebop, Abrams and Mo and Krill. Who should I pick up next for a slight jump in complexity? Again, I am low IQ, roughly 85-90, so too much complexity, movement and thought mentally taxes me, however I think I'm ready. Some more information, I have 5500 hours in CSGO/2 at a semi-pro level so my aim mechanics are top notch. I am genuinely asking.
>>748969876so this is the big dick rat i keep seeing posted on e621 and x
>>748982225play gheist, spam 3 and shoot
>>748982298She is hot, I think I did play her once and did well. I'll try her out.
>>748969876week 1 beta hahah what a fucking cope
>>748981146Because video games aren't purely visual and you can hear very distinct voice lines and audio cues to know when certain skills are being used and from where.
>>748982225Graves.
>>748976132>the guy who was so evil that they brought in 7 of the greatest magic wielders to his execution so that his soul would be destroyed so he couldn't be summoned or resurrected.They wanted his soul obliterated because he gained forbidden knowledge he wasn't suppose to have, not because he was too evil. Obliterating his soul was going to be done so mediums like Graves couldn't talk to his spirit and get that knowledge from him. McGinnis on the other hand isn't an outright bloodthirsty psycho like Drifter but she is absolutely one of the most evil degenerates on the roster. It's just masked by her being a laid back engineer with no conscious who can still carry a regular conversation.
>>748981146There's a possibility that the midboss is the only thing in the new map to not have been done up because valve is considering cutting it.
I just came so hard to him >w<
>>748982784Nah there's no chance of that, it's going to be made into a giant alligator (did you see the graffiti underground?) but they haven't finished it yet
Guys its beta
>>748980850Seven is a better choice if you want to carry
>>748983282You're probably right. I can see valve keeping it just for those "epic rejuv steal" moments. It's just looking at the introduction of the rifts makes it easy to feel that valve is quietly acknowledging that the midboss doesn't really work as a stalemate resolver.
>>748969876I'm more offended by him having a maximum cap on damage received, this is a better version of spellbreaker in his base fucking kit, graves's ult it still breakable in the same game too
>>748976132yeah retards acting like an engineer at a weapons company is le evil compared to seven and drifter are mentally stunted manchildren
>>748979582Killing someone every few weeks with a high chance them being bad people is worse than randomly killing and inflicting physical and psychological torture where you take pleasure in destroying all that is good and wholesome.
>>748982739Tools of war aren't inherently evil and she doesn't actually want to hurt people. She amoral but not evil.
>>748985482not so much about harm inflicted (in which case mcginnis, drifter, or probably doorman are the big winners) and more about personal morality and self-justificationsdrifter has removed himself from the moral framework of normal people and is more or less a rabid dog to be put down and he probably wouldn't even deny that thought. calico constantly postures herself as a high-class assassin but would probably murder a child for a ham sandwich
>>748976132>Nah I'm pretty sure it's still SevenSeven is an arrogant guy who values his freedom and ambitions to an extreme, mcginnis is the supplier for any and all wars regardless of who dies and she only doesn't care because they're elsewhere. Seven doesn't go out of his way to kill people, he only kills people who get in his way
You can only reply to this post if you share a name with El Ratón's loyal subjects
>>748983243What do you like about him? Share it with the class
>>748974907The most egregious thing is the radius
>>748975185Competitive gaming is pretty unseriousThe esports craze ruined the culture, but at the end of the day we're playing with digital toys and trying to do stupid shit
I like Seven
>>748970409b-but they changed Windrunner -> Windranger!
>>748986529NTA but I just like trashy rat men. Feel the same for Twitch, Mad Rat, Gregory, Thanquol, and so on.
>>748981146>I just changed the channel to a sport i've never seen played before, everyones just running around the pitch kicking a ball, how the fuck are you supposed to know whats going on?
What the fuck do you do with these teammates.
>>748970409>not just stole the actual fucking characters.This has to be bait when its well know they directly ported 1:1 heroes from dota
>>748985823>and she doesn't actually want to hurt people.She clearly is hurting people and she's doing for a paycheck, she'd rape a child for fairfax if he paid her enough billions
>>748985482>Killing someone every few weeks with a high chance them being bad peopleShe literally attempted to assassinate 15 year old pocket/arin because his dad is rich.That argument doesn't hold up, she's just a hired gun who doesn't care and only larps about it.
>>748987152try to push or farm safely, hope the enemy throws, but accept that you got the short end of the stick and you'll most likely lose. Even the worst player can get a kill by mistake, or eat an ult that would disable a more important teammate.Unironically the most difficult part of a MOBA is accepting that sometimes you just get fucked over
>>748985482>Killing someoneIs murder>every few weeksThat's cope>with a high chance them being badThat's also copeInfernus said it best, she's lost the plot>drifterObviously drifter is worse but his degeneracy doesn't make hers any better
>>748969876Call the Cat Police.
>Spend the day playing a couple of matches>whole day is now over...This is why I dont like MOBAs
>>748987475might be more accurate to say that calico is easier to hatedrifter is a monster but he's affable and never denies what he is. he kills because he's a psychopath who enjoys it and he invites you to stop him if you have a problem with thatcalico murders for money and is agonizingly pretentious about it. she's like if vyper had an actual ego. even haze shuts down a conversation by saying she's going to kill her as soon as the ritual is over anyway
>>748987963>spend day doing something else>day is over anywayFUCK
standard games are disgustingly bad right now
>>748982225You construct sentences better than 90% of all 4chan boards combined, so good job I guess.
>>748980850>Tank/BruiserAbrams>CarrySeven>SupportPaige
>>748982225Wraith seems up your alley>im dumbSame unfortunately, it's fucking depressing>>748987963At least you got to play, my days have been a humiliation ritual lately
>>748975438what? His gun WAS FUCKING INSANE, he'd cart you into a wall and kill you before stun ended(if not, he'd refresh cart and stun you again)
>>748980850Seven and dynamo are THE noob characters, try them out then slowly branch out
>>748989072I think you're wrong on Bebop/Graves/Billy/Talon/Ratman
>>748989072>graves is a good kid being groomed by an evil-ass lich woman>geist is pretty fucking evil, wraith or mcg could maybe be promoted too depending on what you think>venator is a lot like haze in that he does evil shit if it's pragmatic, abrams is pissed at him for killing civilians for the greater good last time he was in new york>silver reads as maybe a little amoral to me>rem doesn't get morality yet>holliday is obsessively revenge-driven but her heart probably isn't in it>'bop doesn't really give a shit about anything but protecting ms. shelley
>>748989072>Grey TalonMorally Grey, the Baxter Society are monster hunters.>ApolloLeaning evil, he's for Ixian Supremacy and is the son of what appears to be a dictator.>DoormanVery specifically Morally Grey. He wholly reacts to outside confrontations accordingly. The Baroness only reacts negatively to evil people.>ParadoxThieving bitch but not really evil>VenatorNot wholly good. To him the end justify the means and if someone needs to perform lesser evil to stop a greater evil he will wholeheartedly do it himself, even if just to spare someone else from having to bear the weight.>SevenMost evil character on the roster tied with Drifter. Genuine mass murderer who wants to destroy New York just as a flex of his potential for Godhood.>GravesLeaning Good, she wants to help the dead but there's underlying problems and the Lich is very much evil.
>>748989686>talontalon is so broken he only really gives a shit about revenge at this point which he admits, who knows what he's capable of >doormanprobably the most evil character on the roster from a pure actions perspective, he used to be an evil god who tormented and killed people for fun. he's just mellowed out for now because service speaks to him >sevenproofs?
>>748969876>See pic>Think it's art for some cool sim where you build and run a rat colony as the Rat King>It's just a character for some gay ass online shooter
>>748974360Doesn't matter in my opinion. All the least votes heroes end up being the most fun and the meta. I feel like Violet is gonna be last.
>>748989882>proofsHe literally grabs about it.
Harrowbros... were getting voted last...
>>748989072Wrecker was a bioweapon designed to genocide Ixia, put that nigga in Evil
>>748990053does he? he wants to become a god and he doesn't have a problem with killing people to get there, plus he has damage with normies, but if there's dialogue where he talks about murdering people beside the dudes at lost whisperer I don't know it, and nothing where he explicitly indicates that he's going to murder everyone after getting his power
>>748981146Every character has their own specific color. Geist and everything she does has a glowing green.It's not extremely obvious and there's still 50 characters but it's relatively well choreographed.
>>748989072Is Billy leaning evil? He's kind of just an asshole like Lash.
>Character conversation>"Heh...we're gonna win.">"Yeah....we're gonna crush it."just delete these from the game holy shit they're so uninspired and lazy
>>748990685Nuh he's literally on Rat King's side when it comes to the Long Island genocide.
game needs a timbersaw guy that's afraid of windows or some shit
>>748991038Windowsmash
>>748990695>vyper and silver in unison:>Oh my god it's you>Oh my god it's youKino
>>748990408seven is a cultivator protagonist
>>748990695Half the interactions are people going "I'm gonna fucking kill you after this" or some variant of "I fucking hate you"
how does the math in this game work? are>increases weapon damage by 30%and>lowers enemy bullet resist by 30%increasing my damage by the same amount?
>>748990695>>748991340Are there different writers and voice directors in the dev team?The writing sometimes feels so hit or miss.Comparing the dialogue and performance of someone like Vyper and Seven to someone like Pocket or Sinclair is like night and day.
>>748989072victor is in grey at best if not worse. he's willing to kill people just to find out information that will probably just make him feel worse instead of either trying to move on with his unlife or at least wish to stop hurting as muchthis patch also gave him and drifter this exchange
>>748991712he feels like he owes it to the people who got chopped up to make him to understand how he was made which isn't such a bad thing
Here's how you fix Rat King>double the cooldown on ult>remove the slow immunity on ult>replace t3's damage reduction buff with 10% debuff resist>let his grenade proc all the bullet damage items so his builds actually have potential variety and make any sense whatsoever
>>748989072>Rem>Good
>>748989882Talon's revenge is at least against an objectively evil group so he's grey at worst
>>748989072>>748991879You forgot this one
>>748991989He said please
>>748991851>Character is only good at outliving enemies and supprot>Let's remove that and make him a typical M1 character
>>748969876Can I have fun with Deadlock without being autism
>>748991989There is literally nothing wrong with asking for permission.
>>748991989I don't see the problem.
>>748992140I didn't say anything about nerfing his 3, dumbass. If you ner his ult and allow his grenade to proc more gun items there's way more interesting shit he'd be capable of.
>>748991989vore hero
>>748992420I fucking wish, but not yet.
>>748991427If you don't see a difference between what you're referring to and the dozens of "conversations" like pic related you are mentally retarded>>748991690I think, assuming heroes aren't written by multiple people, Valve is too afraid to scrap characters and redo their narratives entirely. Some characters have just rock-solid concepts that they're clearly inspired enough to make tons of great dialogue for. Rem, Vyper, Mina, Doorman, Billy. Then you have the shit Valve is clearly shaky on because their dialogue is all over the place. They feel one-note and even lazy at times. A lot of the older heroes are like this. Wraith, Bebop, Ivy, Geist, Kelvin, Calico, Infernus, Warden. These heroes (and more) just need to go back to the drawing board and make them feel more unique or lean into their themes.I also feel the need to point out the RARE example of a character whose voice actor is way better than the material he's being given to say: Shiv.
This is the proper evil to good chart
>>748992507>putting grey talon and vindicta on different tiersretard
>>748970409If anything he's ripping off King K Rool and the Skaven.
>>748992493>Infernus, Bebop, Ivy, Geist, Calico, KelvinThe fuck are you talking about? Those are all great.
>>748989072I can fix Yamato
>>748992493>not liking the "this lane is going to be cancer for the enemy" conversationsfag
>>748969876how the fuck do you download and play this game? you need to have friends to give you the link or some shit? tf is this bullshit?
Rat King wants to kill humans but that's in retaliation for how rats are being treated, I wouldn't call that evilCalico is a hired killer of course she's one of the most evil characters
>>748991851I reckon itd be a good start to make him drop the flag if hes cc'd, still get the benefits, hell maybe even let the damage go off, but it means he cant use it in literally every scenario quite so freely
>>748992758>he's not evil he just wants to create rat israel
>>748992671>"uhhh i cleaned up my act and I own a bar">"miss shelly">"i have a spanish accent">"my rich cunt snob bit was done better by Mina">"i kill people for money">i can't even think of what the fuck Kelvin is because that character is so generictheir visual designs are all great, their narratives are notif you don't see that I envy you, I wish I could eat up substandard garbage and think it was good
Rat King is very Emenius coded
>>748969876Ratto sexo. Imagine his creepy, skeletal claws teasing your privates!
>>748992507>Warden in NeutralBro he's the deadlock Batman. He's raised from birth to protect society as some kind of Manchurian candidate superhero to protect all the ultra spooky relics and hunt all the ridiculously powerful monsters
>>748992893>"uhhh i cleaned up my act and I own a bar"Based classic archetype.>"miss shelly"Not liking the "robot who cares deeply for its creator" shtick makes you a retarded fag and his rivalry with Lash is hilarious.>"i have a spanish accent"Having a relatively nice person and the closest thing this game has to an everyman be a weird gargoyle chick is funny.>"my rich cunt snob bit was done better by Mina"They're not remotely the same bit. Mina is a new money bitch playing at delusions of grandeur and Geist is old money whose attitude actually reflects her status.>"i kill people for money">t. missed all the new update dialog about her time in the baxter society and her relation with Mo&Krill/Pocket>i can't even think of what the fuck Kelvin is because that character is so genericKelvin's shtick is being a (formerly) generic adventurer type struggling with the fact that probably got everyone who worked with him killed, including himself, and he can't even remember how it happened. If you don't think that's cool then you've got no taste.
>>748970991>above average health>below average move speed>average sprint speed>below average gun speedWhy lie?
>>748992493A lot of those characters have good conversations because they're pretty good characters, though. I'd honestly dislike the writing if they were all like Billy or Rat King or Rem where they're occupying a caricature 24/7.It's better when a lot of them are layered. Infernus is fucking great against Apollo's Ixian supremacy or some of the more off the wall/full of themselves "evil" characters, like him shutting down Mina. Wraith and Calico are both examples of superficially charming characters who are awful, malicious people in their own ways without descending into the "they're just quirky and empowered" cliche, which produces some good stuff. Bebop is sort of a subversion of the good-hearted machine cliche because despite his friendly facade he genuinely doesn't care much about anyone but his creator. Lash is probably a better person despite how much of an ass he is.I don't know. I really don't want the game to end up like late stage TF2 writing where it's all bits all the time. I like having some grounding and subtlety to my weird supernatural characters. They don't all have to be in your face and marketable.
>nobody is lusting for Ivy What madness has come for us?!
>>748993425He actually has a slightly faster cooldown on spending stamina compared to everyone else, but outside of his ult he's still slow if you're not buying speed items.
>>748992893>>748993357Kelvin is the archetypal famous explorer. It's just that they subvert it by making him come back from the expedition as a living corpse.
>>748993457>I like having some grounding and subtlety to my weird supernatural characters. They don't all have to be in your face and marketable.Well said. Honestly, the writing in the game so far reminds me of a slightly more serious Venture Bros., it's good stuff.
>>748970409Imagine simping this hard for universally mocked gookslop like League
>>748969876They're definitely gonna nerf his ult's damage reduction and cooldown.I hope they don't touch anything else about the ult because it's a really fun initiation tool.
>>748976940>staying in seven's ball AND storm ult for 8 seconds: 2k damage>staying in dynamo's ult for 4 seconds: 1.4k damagewhy is seven so raped
>>748992740There are accounts that do nothing but give out invites all day, not hard to find.
>>748989072mina is unironically more vile than everyone in leaning evil and evil esptien [sic] this list is dogshit
>>748993845low iq
>>748969876why the fuck do I have to friend some indian scammer just to play this game? Cant they just fucking release it already before its outdated?
>>748993775-make it breakable (4-5 heavy melees)-longer cooldown-make it interruptable BUT give him unstoppabke as a tier 3 uogradeThose were my suggestions in the forum
>>748982739Graves owes me sex
>>748981146Heroes in Dota 2 and Deadlock have really distinct sound design, makes it easy to tell who's doing what.
>>748993934??? explainif the mokrill wasn't a retard he could've spent 1 stam to not eat the full ball damage to so it's realistically more like 800 damage
>>748992893>uhhh i cleaned up my act and I own a barhis criminal past gives him good interactions with the evil members of the cast, tending the bar gives him ties with a bunch of other characters, and his status as a 2nd gen ixian immigrant gives him fun interactions with the ixia subplot>miss shellybebop is pretty amoral doesn't really care about anyone but miss shelly, which is a little fun, IMO.>i have a spanish accentcome on now, ivy is a catholic everywoman gargoyle who is, despite being a fucking gargoyle, probably the closest thing to a fish out of water audience POV in the game, she has a great bit. >rich snob cuntthe VN was pretty nice, she's a terrible person who's basically a serial killer and she knows it, she's younger than her own son, but she still has a soul and a sense of right and wrong that baffles her. It's not QUITE the same as Mina's "I'm young and vivacious and don't give a fuck about nothin'" shtick since Mina is awful, but she hasn't become a (metaphorical) monster yet. Not much to say on Calico though. Kelvin I think is just underdeveloped, but I do like the idea that beneath his friendly, preachy facade that he's a bit of a dangerous egomaniac and a few characters suggest that.
>>748993939developers are pretending to have ultra-high standards and they can get away with it because they have infinite time and money
>>748993939>why the fuck do I have to friend some indian scammer just to play this game?>He doesn't already have Steam friends that have it
>>748994065>when you can immediately tell who's right around the corner based on their footstepsKINO
>>748993987>-make it breakable (4-5 heavy melees)Absolutely not.It doesn't serve the same function as Graves ult (long range + high damage over an extended period) where you absolutely want to destroy it regardless of who's around, it's designed to force a teamfight. It also doesn't serve as much of a threat by itself so if there's no heroes around it you can just ignore it. If it was destructible every fight would come down to heavy melee and parry spam - there's already enough of that with midboss.With a longer cooldown and lower damage reduction it would be fine.
>>748994270CLANK CLANK CLANK
>>748992893>if you don't see that I envy you, I wish I could eat up substandard garbage and think it was goodlmaoIt's so funny when pseuds try to look intelligent/cultured, it's instantly unconvincing and just makes you look awkward.
>>748994262I have 0 steam friends because I keep weird hours and play niche games that noone wants to play. Even irl life friends I eventually unfriend because we never play. Playing with friends is a hastle. I.E. I want to log on and play 20 mins of hell let loose at 1:30 in the morning then 15 minutes of holdfast, who the fuck is going to join me?
>>748993223>NEVER SHOW FEAR NO MATTER THE ODDS giga
>>748994073>wtf longass aoe stun doesnt do as much damage as non stunning ability
>>748993939bro it's incredibly easy to get an invite for this game
>>748970409This dude came from a classical fairy tale...
>>748992493>great dialogue>billy
>>748994701i'm saying the opposite you goddamn retard troglodyteseven is a dedicated damage hero and both his ult + one of his damage abilities (that is super easy to dodge) do less DPS together than dynamo's ult on its own which also stuns you for those 4 seconds
>Solomon is going to be next>3rd/4th spot is a toss up between Baba and Violet>Danny 5th>Harrow lastBrehs.......
>>748994872dumbass maxhp% damage you didnt express yourself clearly
>>748994204imPRESSIVE
>>748992507
>>748994996Harrow is busy attending to my significant medical issues in the nurse's office, she can't come to the hideout right now.
>>748992581vindicta is way worse than GT lol
>>748994996Why the fuck is Harrow last? Do players not see her massive tits?
>>748995329Tbhdesu her portrait hides it well
>>748993425>below average move speed>*activates his ult (which will be almost ready again by the time it ends) to run around the map super fast*problem?
>>748995329>>748995408Proof?
>>748995329It's because this game unfortunately attracted a lot of furniggers and troons with awful taste
I haven't played a game since Spring 2024 but I'm thinking about coming back to try Drifter. Do people like the new map more than the old 1?
there are a bunch of characters that did evil shit in their past that makes them a bit harder to scale
>>748995240They're literally working together to kill the exact same people.
>>748990695Literally nothing wrong with those kinds of conversations. Not all of them need to be some deep introspective on the character or some insane lore reveal.
>>748995868Dynamo is friends with Fairfax.
>>748996087Fuuuuuuuuuck I forgot
>Characters like Vyper or Doorman are good because of their dialogue as seen in game>These underwritten first-release characters are good because I like what that archetype is supposed to be in my head, not what we actually see of them in-game>There is no difference between these things :)you niggers are so retarded it's beyond belief
>>748995778most of them do, yeah
>>748995329She's an ugly middle-aged woman and she's obviously a support because she's a nurse. Why wouldn't she be last?>>748995778Everyone except 4chan.
>>748996145what are you even talking about, everyone is talking about stuff going off of either conversations that exist in the game or upcoming/cut content that exists in the filesbilly is a fucking bore btw
>>748996145>These underwritten first-release characters are good because I like what that archetype is supposed to be in my headPlease explain which characters you're referring to instead of being a vagueposting noreply FAGGOT.
>>748994996I'm voting Baba but will 100% vote Harrow after she's in.
>>748996321>>748996373Scroll up 4 posts and see people defending fucking Bebop as a well-written and interesting character
>>748996080A lot of them are just boring, awkward or melodramatic. I wouldn't say that about a single piece of dialogue in Dota 2 or TF2, so it's weird there's so much like that in Deadlock. There's also a lot of Deadlock dialogue that feels like a setup for a joke but then the character who should be landing a punchline just bails and it's like, "Oh...that's it?" I think they were afraid of being quippy due to people turning on Marvel movies.But Dota 2 is full of epic declarations, puns and just light-hearted comments that feel perfectly in-character and TF2 is just a spectrum of humor from smug self-fellating and biting roasts. But then Deadlock is all>"Hey, you're a good kid, you know?">"Have you heard about what happened at the Skiddleboob Yard?">"I've heard...rumors...">"Then you know I'm not that good.">"Don't be so hard on yourself...we're gonna' make it out of this, okay?"Is this a soap opera?
>>748996712Well sadly you are in the minority. Most people love the characters. You're gonna have to swallow your crippling autism and deal with that.
>>748996712I'd say that a lot of the late TF2 era comedy starts getting pretty tedious.
>>748996712>is this a soap opera?it literally kind of is, yes. In the final game you're supposed to get more of the character stories through the VNs as you play.
Surprised at just how fucking huge he is. dwarfs abrahms and mo were was already the biggest characters.
>>748996710All I see is "Bebop is amoral, which is fun." I don't think anyone will contest that a lot of earlier characters are underdeveloped, Warden especially, but I don't think they're all conceptually weak and need to become more kooky and off the wall.I mean honestly that happens to literally every valve property. They got more comedy-centric and caricaturized over time. It happened to Portal, Left 4 Dead, Half-Life, honestly even TF2 even though it was comedy/slapstick from the start, it got even sillier. It wasn't always for the worse, but I really don't need it here.
>>748969876So is this game ever actually going to enter open alpha/open beta?
>>748996781>deal with thatOh, how could I ever manage?>>748996905>"This is a dark, serious, dramatic story about complex characters.">cut to them sliding around on their ass and air dashing at light speed
>>748997381What would be the difference between open beta and release?
>>748969876Not really sweating it because I’m a tankchad, and he’s voiced by Chucky, and I’m playing him in October. So charmed.
they made seven so sassy this update
>>748969876So is Valve really going to introduce a skins market for this game?
>>748975602Opposite for me. Whoever gets rat king wins in the last 5 matches I've played
>>748994030She's a child.
>>748986741I think you should be able to destroy the banner like graves ult
>>748997491Okay. Bye.
>>748976132>le morally neural and innocent civilianIt's even worse because McGinnnis has complete understanding of what she is making and what it will be used for.
>>748971115
>>748996710Bebop isn't interesting, but he's fun. Not every character needs to be deep and complex to be fun, you can have a couple guys who are written well and fun to watch bounce off of others.
>>748998651this
>>748971115>suddenly
>the update site mentions that there are now in-game comms bans for saying slurs and getting reported>try using this to get free wins by reporting enemy players so they can't communicate>they only get banned a few days laterWhat's the fucking point? Remove the system if I can't abuse it for advantage
>>748999214Frogging seems to be reserved for especially egregious cheating outbreaks
>>748991989>Rem canonically eats Black pussyI kneel
>>748998651>most boring character alive with zero personality is "fun"i'm begging you to kill yourself i can't believe you bother playing videogames when you would be just as easily amused by blowing bubbles with your spit
>>748999403"the way I play video games is much more mature than you"faggot lol
>>748999470retard lol
>Get raped by the Rat all day>Finally, Rat on my time>They're terrible, literally don't realise the ult gives damage reduction>LoseThat's video games for ya
>>748999297>If a player is reported during a match and found to be abusing comms, they will be muted for the rest of the match and issued a 30 day comms ban.
>>748999550>timei mean team im sorry please
>>748992507>Rat King>evilHe knows the names of all his subjects, he's alright
wraith is such a busted character
>>748999619rat king is literally netenyahu btw
>>748998591rofl
>>748976940Mo GODS stay winning
>>748999403>zero personalityYou don't need complex motives to have a personality. Bebop has a personality, he's just a fairly simple guy because his goal is just to get money to help a sick person he cares for.
>>748999214Is reporting shitters for slurs to get them banned from ranked based or cringe?
>>748999792Weaponizing report systems to send shitters with bad mental to low prio is your God given right.
>>748999792yes, it is our duty to created retarded nigger island where they trap each other like crabs in a bucket
>>748999558>comms banHow does this help you win
>>748999532Everyone is very impressed with you
>>748999658He isn’t trying to grow Long Island so you are already wrong.
>>748999904By disabling pings so the banned players can't call for help when they get ganked
>>748999792For shitters and just annoying faggots in general it's based.
>>748999792cringe hall monitor do-it-for-free janny behaviour
>>749000189I dont get it, are you scared to play with people like yourself? why would it bother you at all, just stop being a triggered faggot and get in the retard chamber
>>749000283is this an AI gen response? it has literally nothing to do with my post
>>749000189>>749000189I am not doing it for free, I am doing it for the guarantee that the subhuman who fed the enemy carry 20k souls doesn't show up in my matches for a month
>>748989072McGinnis is the single most evil character in the entire game and almost nobody realizes itGrey Talon and Vindicta are good guys, just anti heroes.Infernus is a pure good guy nowKelvin is evil but his memory loss is protecting him for now.Silver is the definition of neutralgay list
>>749000427it has everything to do with your post you retarded niggerthe simple fact is the thing that scares you retards the most is being forced to play with each other, because deep down you know you are an insufferable faggot no one wants in their game, and playing with 11 other people that share your mentality would suck
>>748981146>How are you supposed to tell By playing the game.
>>749000074Better get really tight rotations and never be out of position.
>>749000497He is baiting you. Let him cry getting a taste of his own chud medicine in low prio lobbies.
>>749000470Silver leans a little more good than pure neutral. I think she’s such a disaster because of her guilt over failing to stop Drifter and Shiv
>how do I abuse the report system for an advantage?>I'm totally different from those other toxic shitters tho, teehee>why do people avoid le main mode?cut from the same cloth, cope as you willpeople don't like being around snitches either
>>749000949I accept your concession pussy
Now that we know the risk of rain mode existsWill you do comfy lobbies with /v/, bros.
>>749001412Why did he censore his massive schlong?
>>749001412Didn't RoR2 suck?
>>749001719No
>>749000189I do it because I know it will make them pissed off, I don't care that they say the nigger word.
>>749001719only lategamemostly because hotpoo fucked up the scaling and everything was kinda soft bottlenecked through very specific proc items that not every character could reliably usealso the movement got kinda retarded as well, much less of a platformer than the first game
>>749000497i don't ever use chat/mic nigga you're jumping to conclusionsif you report in ANY website you are a wannabe janny cuck that does it 4free
>>749002549>u-ur a cuck if you don't let dumb assholes continue to ruin your games and the games of other peopleYou are a subhuman.
>>748976440He looks absolutely busted to me on paper but every rat king I've seen has a shitter
there is no point in voting the first two new characters since redditniggers and discordtroons have decided already
>>749001719it's one of the best indie games of the last 10 years
>>749003128the votes stay so you are always influencing the following characters even if they dont win early
>>749001719It was decent, but the dev sold out to Gearbox of all the badass studios out there, so it's somewhat fallen from grace.
>>749001719You can run fast in it and most characters have wonky interactions with terrain when dashing and you can get loads of heightIt was great until it was permanently sullied by GearboxAlso the dlc is shit
IM GOING TO RAT>IM GOING TO RATIM GOING TO RAT>IM GOING TO RATIM GOING TO RAT>IM GOING TO RATIM GOING TO RAT>IM GOING TO RATIM GOING TO RAT>IM GOING TO RAT
>>749004079>all my teammates so far dont know what ratting meantGrim...
Why did they add Silver, an alcoholic monster girl failure, when they already had Vyper, an alcoholic monster girl failure?
>>748970409maybe you're right but league is shit so its okay to steal ideas and recreate them but better.
>>749004671the archetype is good enough that normalfags deserve an actual fuckable character
>>749004671Silver is a fake girlfailure, Vyper is an unmitigated girldisaster
i only brawl because moba, aka ASSFAGGOTS, is shit
>>748974360likely solomon is next.im getting conflicted info on whether violet is super popular or super unpopular so im not sure about the rest.im feeling like harrow is last though
>how do i counter-curse>but they have indom-silence wave then curse>they used unstoppable-have your team hard focus them or get out of their bullshit radius
>>749004079Rat King doesn't sound very good at ratting.
>>749004671Calling Vyper a girl failure is like calling 9/11 an aviation oopsie daisy.Vyper is a complete and utter girltastrophy.
>>748980221>I don't understand why you can't stop, stun, disablesthe first match i played on him i used my ult and haze just slept me out of it before it came out
BROS
you don't hate the fanbase larpers enough
>pick a character>don't get to play as themThis shouldn't happen in a game ever. I don't care how long i have to wait. give me the character i picked guaranteed
>>749005552and more importantly, stop making me lane against the one hero i have banned
>>749005438Why the fuck are the hags the only titty monsters
>>749005526>larpersI don't understand. Do you mean people who claim to be fans of deadlock yet don't play and hate the game?We called those "posers" back in the day. Larpers were nerds dressed up as wizards throwing tennis balls at each other.
>>749005438
>>749005587does the banning even work? it almost seems like i see the character i banned even more often than usual
>>749005610just wait until the ixian milf is added
>>748969876movement slop, the game
>>749005716It supposedly selects the two most requested bans in the lobby, but there's no real way to verify this and there's also no reason for it to work this way. At standard mmr with a single "avoid" per player, it should be able to craft a game that satisfies everyone's preferences.
>>748969876They just need to either nerf his E or his R. He's ungodly tanky against half the roster if not most and he can just make his team unkillable with the ridiculous radius on his R.
I know baba is going to be the most fun character even though everyone is gonna vote solomon and danny before her
I hate. HATE this new map.
>>749004152I politely explained to a zoomer on voice it was dota slang for splitting and he called me a fucking nerd Never again.
>>749006573NERRRDD
>>749006510Why?
>>749006573just call it split pushing and leave the dota talk for dota
>>749006510shit taste, get filtered
>>749005813I assumed it was just randomly selected
>>749006573Ratting isnt split pushing. Split pushing is a concerted effort of pushing two lanes. Ratting is when you wait for a teamfight, and then push a lane while everyone is occupied.
Sup nigga, I'm the BIG UGLY TREE planted in green lane. You wanna throw an aerial ability bitch? Gotta get past my branches nigga. That Holliday barrel you threw? Twigged that bitch outta the air. Rift fight is starting? Hope you don't randomly crash into one of my big ugly branches you little fruit. You wanna climb me nigga? Oops you slipped guess it's into the bowels of the team fight for you, hope you make it nigga.
>>749005438Why the fuck are Lady Geist, Nurse Harrow and Mina left handed? all three women, all wear similar outfits... wtf is going on here?
>>749006510it kind of feels like information overload to me, I think I'll get used to it but I feel like it'll be overwhelming to new players
>>749006795for oathkeeper, the magic purse, and the umbrella respectively
>>749006785Skill issue
>>749006803my first time fighting mid lane I felt like I was blind because I literally could not make out the people to shoot at in front of meI got used to it within the day though
>>749006883last time they made big map changes like this they adjusted the lighting a few times afterI'm not sure if they've done that again or if the map just feels fine to me now but I haven't had any visibility issues since the rat king update
>>748989072billy isn't evil he's just retarded
>>748982225Venator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SgSuQNNMxoLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>think im doing good>look up3-7k souls behind EVERYONE i try to farm, i try to take stuff, i dont take useless fightswhy
>>749004671It's actually criminal that they haven't remodeled her already.
>>749007458not watching your video gay boy
>>748989686>>Doorman>Very specifically Morally Grey. He wholly reacts to outside confrontations accordingly. The Baroness only reacts negatively to evil people.he's only evil from our perspective tho. to him killing those people was equivalent to killing a bunch of ants
>>749007503You're not pushing wavesPush waves and steal shitTake a solo fight if you can win it
>>749007570Also urn
>>749005526Why are these retards pretending that Deadlock has a lot of characters in spite of being a MOBA when the genre is fundamentally about making up for having a single map by having gorillion characters? >inb4 heroes of the storm and old league of legendsFailed experiments
>playing match>shitter victor in our team goes 2/12/5>means he died like 24 times lmao>friend tell him to disengage and farm until we need him for final push to win the game>he talks shit>*turns on mic* and start calling him nigger goyim subhuman etc...>friend types in all chat flaming viktor>in game announcement>he gets a week long ban>I don't>we win anyways and victor gets away with feeding the whole game despite 7 players reporting himkekalso climbing from brick to mystic took me a week and made me hate
>>748970409take my (you) (you) silly goose nigger
>>749005526is he wrong?the RoR pve mode is going to inject 1 million players and 100% of those won't even touch the dogshit MOBA PvP mode
>>749007720Reporting for griefing does nothing, you are supposed to bait him into raging or typing a slur
>>749005526The only thing interesting about the game is the gameplay though.
>>749006936not this guy but the new map is just sensory overloadcoming from the sterile environment to this neon-sign, detail rich stuff is weirdthe good thing about less "fidelity" is better visibility of skills and enemies
>>749007801I didjust made that post to inform you guys that talking shit on mic doesn't get you bannedbut typing a single no no word that might hurt someone feefees will get you a week long ban
I just wish the community wouldn't be 90% pussy ass bitches that shit their pants as soon as they see an enemy hero.Everyone just wants to click on creeps, sometimes you get a retard abandoning lane at minute 2 to farm boxes, but mostly creeps.No objectives, no fights, no sinners, no urn, no rift, just farm jungle.
>>749007458TF2roons seethed so fucking hard at deadlock
>>749007871if you play at this level you can abuse it thoughplay some hero that can comfortably gank and take their boxes or sinners when they do them
>>749007871fucking off and getting boxes is what you're meant to do, play drifter and roflstomp lowbies doing this
why is racism always fine in media when it's not actually about skin color but some other attribute. but they would never dare to add a character that is actually racist in the traditional sense
>>749008123Because racism based on skin color is pretty silly in a world with elves or talking rats. There's plenty of racism in games set in realistic settings.
>>749008123Can of worms. Not worthe the trouble
>>749008123Everyone's a little bit racist, so fictional racism gives them an outlet to laugh about it without fear
>finally get to play Rat King for the first time>The last man alive on earth would not be left alone as hard as I was by my teammates all game
>>749008183>Because racism based on skin color is pretty silly in a world with elves or talking ratsdoesn't mean it wouldn't exist
Unironically the leader of the friends of humanity shpuld be black
How did Valve go from DOTA2, in which 99% of the cast is ugly as sin, to Deadlock, which actually has appealing characters?
>>749007837I think you're still adjusting. Most of the flashy decor is out of the gameplay area.
>>74900826295% of dota hero designs are based on WC3 models, and most of those are caricatures of males or monsters.
>>749008123rat king gets the N word pass because he's jewish
>>749008262There's nothing wrong with Dota designs.
>>749008197He needs rat bites to live.
>>749001719YesOne of the worst designed games. The BLM-activist dev just got lucky with the first game.
>>749008325I didn't say they were "wrong", I said they were ugly. And they are.
>>749007535No point, she's perfect as is.
>>749008262>Deadlock, which actually has appealing characters?Maybe if you look like this? They look as awful as Battleborn designs
>>749008224No, what I mean is that racism based on skin color literally looks stupid in fantasy>Yeah, I hate elves and dwarves and also humans but only niggersThe solution is either avoid typical racism in order to distance the setting from reality, or to replace skin color with race, like in Elder Scrolls for example where humans are divided into their own races.
>>749004671chaotic good (silver) vs chaotic evil (vyper)
>>749008359They don't need to be pretty. Monsters are more appealing.
>>749008389Anon, hyperbole is fun, but come the fuck on rein it in a little.
>>749008389if you don't want to have bedbreaking sex with viscous then I'm sorry but you're a faggot
>>749008409Silver is actually lawful good.
>>749008329Come on /v/ artfags where's my 2004 meme redraw ding ding ding I want it NOW
>>749007458why does he sound like that?
>>749008423I'm not exaggerating. If any other game has barafag characters like this, heckin super smart black negro geniuses, Valve design of black strong powerful woman, they/thems and more people would endlessly shit on it.
>>749008262Playtesting.And Mina.
The game didn't even release and they already flanderized characters>seven in 2024 was a psychopath killer living in the sewers who was occasionally sassy >seven in 2026 is a flamboyant homo who somehow goes to fashion shows
>>749008262they almost stumbled way way back, Lady Geist had a tranny jaw and face and her tits weren't nearly as big now I get distracted when playing against her
>>749005438I think she'd be more popular if her Catnap smile was easier to see on her poster.>>749005552>play a hero game>get mad when it's a hero game
>>749008496Just because you're dumber than black people doesn't mean you have to take it out on everyone else, sheesh
>>749008262You've never played Dota 2.
>>749008545>psychopathSeven isn't psychopathic? I don't think he's killed anyone but feds.
>>749008545>goes to fashion showsOr maybe he saw it somewhere in a magazine or on a billboard. I really don't get what's so gay about making fun of crappy high fashion.
I WANT TO FUCK NURSE HARROWI WANT TO PENETRATE HARROW PUSSY AS SHE PSSST AND UGGGHHH AND WHATEVER A STRICT NURSE SAY WHEN U FORCED PENETRATION ON HERNURSE HARROW MY WIFE
>>749008545Seven was undoubtedly high class before his ascension, you can't get access to the resources he had and go on scientific arctic expeditions and shit without loads of money
>venator broken on release>apollo broken on release>graves broken on release>celeste broken on release>rat king broken on releaseI'm starting to think they're not very good at this
>>748984667you have a saturday morning cartoon understanding of the world
>>749008262Don't use my wife to post such a shit opinion ever again, you fuck!
>>749008401>No, what I mean is that racism based on skin color literally looks stupid in fantasywho cares. logically it would still exist. people naturally group into clans and clans within those clans especially in the time period this is supposed to take place in
>>749008614>Please: I don't like murder. I'm indifferent to it.He's a psychopath by definition
>>749008728turns out balancing is hard and ppl are less likely to play weak characters (which leads to less data for balancing)
>>749008717Seven is an autistic asian with old money. He is a rich as fuck asian with grandeur delusion who feels like the world has ni meaning and there has to be more than this ordinary life
>>749008728When has a moba ever released a balance hero day one
I WANT TO FORCE MY COCK DOWN NURSE HARROW THROAT I WANT TO CREAM PIE NURSE THROAT PUSSY UNTIL ITS FULL A ND SHE IS NAGGING ABOUT HOW TOO MUCH SEX IS BAD FOR YOUR VITALITY
new map is awesome but now the game runs worse on my toaster even with 60% resolution scale
>>749008123>why is racism always fine in media when it's not actually about skin colorBecause the goal is to be a relatable game for whomever the player is. Everyone can relate to racism but if you're say, a chink, and characters in game go STUPID FUCKIN SLANT EYED CHINKOIDS then you're alienating a portion of the potential audience. So you get the racism but not between our existing races.
>>7490087285 day old baby's first time playing MOBA
>>749008781true but when there's a bigger threat humans generally group togetherancient Italy was a shitton of warring tribes until Rome subjugated them and made one unified nationEurope was the same until it got unified the existence of demons and vampires and ghosts and whatnot would make every human realize there's bigger fish to fry and forget all together about skin color
>>749008781Basically racism based on skin color is such a modern thing and it just looks stupid in a fantasy setting. Just 100-150 years ago you’d have been hated just as much for being Irish or Italian as you would be for being nigger.
>>749008262This game is destined to become a skin simulator like Dota 2 as a means of revenue. Dota 2's base roster isn't great for whales to play dress up with. But it's been 10+ years and they have the benefit of hindsight to check what kind of characters players want to dress up in hero games and to a lesser extent gatcha games that coast on skins to survive. After Dota 2 got done with Warcraft 3's roster of stinky legally distinct characters the game immediately dived hard into the waifu and furry pit to survive. Deadlock doesn't need to add 70 weird freaks they can just start with the thirst traps and cool dudes.
I WANT RELUCTANT SEX WITH NURSE HARROWSHE WILL KEEP NAGGING ME WHILE I THRUST MY COCK AGAINST HER PUSSY SHE WILL HATE IT WHEN I FORCED MY COCK DOWN HER THROAT AND CUMM AND SHE WILL SWALLOW ALL THE SAME
>>749005610Violet has a nice rack despite being Asian.>>749007535It's so surreal to see people talk about this game and say things that out them as never having experienced Valve before. They haven't made a game in 15 years, so I guess it's to be expected.But yeah, Valve does not give a shit about polishing old stuff. They do that at the literal last minute. They'd rather work on new stuff. They don't have a suit yelling at them to do this or that by a deadline, they do whatever they want. Tomorrow, all of them could decide they're bored of Deadlock and just stop.
>>749008829Venator had the best ult in the game but was balanced by everything else being unusable dogshit
>>749008123>>749008224Prejudice in the real world will narrow itself as much as necessary to find whatever differences exist, even if that's just hair color or being left-handed. Logically it should work the other way around; just like you'll rarely see people getting bigoted over someone using their left hand for a task instead of their right hand in the present day because we've got migrant bands of rapists patrolling Europe, Wraith or Calico being black doesn't matter as much when there are ghosts and demons walking around. I'm sure people do exist with those thoughts in the Deadlock setting, but not enough for it to be noteworthy.Maybe someone old enough to remember the world before the astral gates opened would still care, but we don't have many of those in the setting; of those that have lived that long, Dynamo acts very polite to everyone by default, Geist is too focused on public perception to say the word nigger, and Vindicta is obviously against prejudice given her history. Maybe Drifter would say it but he doesn't seem to make many distinctions
>>749008728Nobody will ever be perfrctly balanced. It is better to aim for slightly too powerful than slightly underpowered because even if something is slightly overpowered it shakes things up and creates discussion. Therefore all tuning will deviate towards something being overtuned, and this will happen repeatedly.
>>749008993>Violet has a nice rack despite being AsianNo she doesnt look at hero model againIts just the apron
Looks like the asians dominate occult america. The rich bitch asian vampire. The rich schizo fuck seven. The rich pretentious asian painter. And whatever the fuck that asian dude with 2 others fucko in a trench coat is
>>749007458TF2 fanboys dont even play tf2 anymore
NURSE HARROW SEXNOWOWI WANT TO SEXXXX NURSE HARROW
>>749008829Release Mina was shit.
>>749009135Have you tried playing TF2? It's just getting killed by suspiciously accurate snipers over and over and over.
>>748969876>Ultimate is just Boots of Bearing as an aura instead of as an activeDeadlock players struggle with the smallest things. When will Blizzardrones learn?
>sinclair currently has 56% wr because of rat king's ultkek
>>748971115He's manspreading. It's NYC subway culture, you wouldn't understand
>>748970409>imagine playing leeg in 2026 with riot have kernel access to your computer
>>748976132>Put venomancer wards in a shooter, a game where killing them is easier>Somehow this completely destroys the composure of every Overwatch and Valorant player everI don't get it. McGinnis does nothing.
>>749009343Why are white men like this?
>>749008978>This game is destined to become a skin simulator like Dota 2 as a means of revenue.I have to wonder if they are going to crackdown on cosmetic mods. What's the point in buying skins when you get whatever you want from community made stuff?
>>748976132Sven is straight forward and pure. He killed peoples and thats it. The bullshit magic teck is more sinister and harmful. Likes how tik tok rotted a whole generation brain. So your argument is stupid and invalid
>>749009415Valve bans you for doing that in Dota 2. Can't even use mods to just use default skin to remove all the god awful new cosmetics.
>>748987328that child? me
>>749009182release mina was beyond broken if you knew that her ult deleted any objective
>>749009415They allow mods for now because they understand that forcing people to look at Yamato's current design is terrorism
I wonder what nurse harrow will say when me and my bros run a train on her. Man I just want to fuck her brain out, u feel me?A strict and professional character, dicked by me to the point of losing her rationality
>>749009250actually it's an unkillable wraith pactyou know, the worst item they ever introduced to dota?
>>749009415personal mods can't be seen by other players and skins are status symbols the point is to be seen by others.
>that was a really fun date, anon>you wanna come back to my rooftop?
>>748976132Miku takes great joy in seeing her weapons of mass destruction work as intendedyou could cope and say it's an engineer being happy at a job well done, but if that's the case why isn't she making anything else? do you think she'd get the same satisfaction creating the world-hunger-solver-20000 or the baby-soul-ripper-annihilator-of-immense-pain-and-suffering?
>>749008262Dota 2 has better character designs than most games, but most characters are just plagiarized from Warcraft and Warcraft looks like absolute dogshit. You would think they'd change them in a good way, like take this shitty Warcraft model and change it so it doesn't look like vomit, right? No. Somehow they didn't do this. A lot of them actually look worse. Once they caught up with the original roster, they've mostly released great characters.The other benefit Deadlock has is Valve has clearly had a change of heart. They used to be above pandering to gooners and would only make female characters pretty in a safe way. They also used to be against making cute characters, OG Puck was ugly-cute. The funny thing is these shitlib types often do this in part as some kind of fight for feminism but it's specifically girls who want to play as cute girls and mascot characters. If Valve ever doubted that, Deadlock has proved it. They all play Mina, Graves, Celeste and Rem. All of them. Some of them even admit they don't like the game outside of those characters.>>749008401>racism based on skin color literally looks stupid in fantasyNot really, since the stock fantasy races people put in every game only have one trait (like skin color) that differs from others, like pointy ears and height. It makes just as much sense to discriminate based on those things as skin color.Actually discriminating based on skin color makes more sense. Everyone bullies short people, there's nothing special about it, and what do pointy ears even do? But pale skin can be a sign of sickness and dark skin makes you harder to read (can't see you blush) which causes trust issues.
>>749009545>but if that's the case why isn't she making anything else?Nobody is paying her to.
I bet ure ass there are like 100 sven running around in asia.
>>749009580Vyper has the same mentality and I wouldn't call her good
>>749008415There's a difference between looking pretty and looking good. Spirit Breaker is sick. Elder Titan is awful.>>749008496Other games are worse.
>>749009547I like if you compare HoN to Dota 2 you can see how far superior most HoN designs are. I don't know what it is with Valve, but they really suck at design and most stuff.
>>749008262Valve went through an unfortunate phase during development of dota 2 and went for muted designs. That's one of the reasons league ate their lunch because league went all in on beautiful characters.
NURSE HARROW will suck ure dick 10 times a day if it is what necessary for ure health. A true professional
>>749009547Dota 2 has dog shit design. Shit likes that mute girl, the dumb ass guitar frog. Dumb fucking shit. When they can't steal the OG designs anymore they are dog shit on their own
>>749009547The latest designs in Dota suck ass tho, they all look like something straight from Pixar Disney ever since Monkey King.
>>749009659it's an awkward line to treadLeague has too many asian pretty boys and e-thots that it becomes boring and samey to look atDoTA has weird as fuck designs that aren't pretty or cool so you just feel nothing looking at them
Please dont forget Dota 2's ORIGINAL theming
>>749009659>>749009742Hon aesthetic and designs are superior to dota 2, that's a fact
>>749009780Also animation feedback, voicelines and everything was so much better.
>>749009659HoN having better character design didn't matter because the characters are tiny and the map looked like dogshit
>>749009759I especially hate storm spirit faggottry. A cool thunder spirit turned into a faggot
Dota 2 is great because the OGs were just talking in puns
The phrase that describes dota 2 design best is: trying too hard.
>>749008545>Mina is an self centered and obviously insecure spoiled bitch who freaks out at even the tiniest insult or criticism against her.>make basic, shallow, vauge statement that has no supporting evidence and is very obvious broad and subjective on how her fasion senses "suck">People think this means Seven is a fagot who knows about fasion.Mina probably thinks the sky being blue is a mocking insult against her. People really can't catch that mean is so fucking narcissistic and bipolar that you can make her head explode from any sort of commitment towards her.
>>749009203That is not true now and has never been true.>>749009726>>749009728No. You're just wrong. You probably think Warcraft looks cool. You should be banned from posting.
>>749009906I think that applies more to deadlock
>>749009759>all those skullsIt's worse than the Tiananmen square protests (which didn't happen)
>>749009759what is this? asian shamanisn/tribalism?
all these options and I can't change hit numbers so they're bigger and only shows my own damage?
>>749009927Are you seriously going to tell me that Largo, Kez, Muerta, Marci, Snapfire, Dawnbreaker, Hoodwink, Mars, Pango and dark willow doesn't look like something straight from a Disney Pixar™ movie?
>>749009927Shut the fuck up faggot >>749009934Nah. Dota 2 was trying to be their own thing while remain related to the OG designs they copied from. The results are a fuckin mess. Tryin to hard is perfect phrase to describe it
>>748987152why, whine about it on /vg/ of course.
>>749009989bloodline champions was released before Dota 2 came out and the Valve devs were clearly influenced by that game. Going for the whole tribal/shamanistic aesthetics with their designs.
>>749009906I think they didn't try enough, at least the original roster. It's like Valve was too cool to try and went with really "mature" muted designs that don't say much. And no sex appeal at all, the women of dota 2 are terrible. Crystal Maiden was the "hot girl" of dota2 for a long time and she is nothing special.
I think its clearly obvious valve was just way too constrained by the wc3 to dota 2 transition
Just look at the shit when they tried to do their own things: marci, largo, kez. Bland, boring, dumb fuck furry design. Valve ain't shit mate.And I said that as a guy who got key from the OG dota forum. I have a bloodstone of pioneer to show for it. I was in it for the gameplay, not the shitty designs
>>749009952Deadman Danny destroyed the theory that Skeleton King was removed because of China
>>749009813The things you think are cool? They're not. You're a loser. You probably don't wash your ass. I bet you smoke and wear camo. I bet you listen to metal and grew up in a trailer.>>749009993I don't judge things by what other things they look like they might be from. I don't think some Dota 2 heroes are ugly because they look like Warcraft and I dislike Warcraft. That would be brownoid behavior. I think they're ugly because they're ugly.Largo is good.Kez is even better.Muerta is pretty good.Marci is too good to be in Dota.Snapfire is good.Dawnbreaker sucks.Hoodwink is top tier.Mars is fine.Pango is good.Dark Willow is top tier.Who do you think looks cool, Illidan and Malfurion? lol...
>>749010049>bloodline champions>fun as fuck>devs abandon it and work on battlerite>also fun as fuck>devs abandon it to work on open world survivalcraft with shit combat>not funI hate stunlock
>>749008278The whole Fairfax quarter is a clusterfuck even at ground level, it even has multiple wall elements that don't react to jumps the way you'd expect them to. A good example of both would be the the shroom depot for the ground level visual overload and the multiple buildings with tarps with some being solid and others you can slightly pass through.
>>749010203>Marci is too good to be in Dota.Most retarded take in the thread. The most bland and boring and forgettable shit? Too good? Dog shit taste
>stunning rat during his ult doesn't even halve the cooldown, it fully refunds itLiterally the only counterplay and valve said "erm no you can't do that"
Largo, Muerta, Dark Willow, and Marci could have been Deadlock heroes DESU
>>749010203>Dawnbreaker sucks.She's the futadom hero and therefore top tier.
>>749010278Only dark willow is good nu-design cuz she has some edges. Rest are dog fucking shit
>>749010273The developers are unironically prohibited from inviting high rank players to the internal playtests because they were all attention whores who kept leaking it
Who the fuck think marci is good design? Ordinary anime faced foid #299393. Gameplay wise the only notable shit about her is her Ulti which is just a bootleg ursa combo. Hit fast and hard? Bitch ursa was doing that shit in 2005
>>749009547Riot actually admitted once that 97% of female players ONLY pick girl characters.The other 3% probably gravitate to goon bait like any character lightly alluded to be gay.Some the fuck how, Ringmaster and Hoodwink have been the glue recent characters for these people. They just need to make a cute girl with an actual voice and the numbers will rise.
>>749007721They should introduce Cadance and she should have omega tits and be flirty with all the men and in the same patch introduce a bratty femboy who tries to flirt with all the men. Imagine the fucking shitstorm. Please volvo.
>>749010392Rat king's problems are all visible on paper. 35% resist lane-wide on a 2 minute cooldown. What about that sounds remotely like something that should not be interruptable?
>>749009952The "no skeletons" "law" was always a scam to force western devs to give money to their chinese partner to change their game, it was made extremely obvious back then when chinese MMO had skeleton enemies and/or playable ones without problems.
how many women play vyper or yamato or calicohow many do you think will play baba
>>749010121They were constrained with only caring about appealing to the preexisting Dota players. Dota 2 isn't a real sequel, it's the same thing Valve always does: hire an indie/modder and turn their project into a full game. But they couldn't say, "Hey guys this is the REAL Dota," because that'd be offensive to the massive playerbase in love with the game, so they called it a sequel but just copied the game and tried to keep heroes as close to the originals as they could without getting sued. They didn't think most of them would come over if they didn't come up with 100% original designs. I think they shouldn't have given a shit.>>749010172Deadlock > Dota 2 > HotS > WarcraftNotice how the two on the left are Valve and the designs get better the further we stray from Warcraft?
>>749009920>make basic, shallow, vauge statement that has no supporting evidence and is very obvious broad and subjective on how her fasion senses "suck"He directly commented on her Fashion Week disaster that Calico mentions and an "unfinished hem experiment".
>>749010453She was literally only added because she was in the anime that was funded by some rich arabian prince that loves dota.For some reason arabs love dota
>>749010587Marci is the most industry plant shit I have ever seen. Whoever the fuck think that shit is good design is the most retarded faggot on the planet. Literal an industry plant
>>749010453Gooners and Girls. The majority of Marci art comes from one artist called hanuul, a girl. They cling to Marci because Dota is really bare of other archetypal "cute girl" types. If there were several, no one would care, similar to how Violet in Deadlock is getting little attention in a post-Graves, post-Celeste, post-Mina, post-Paige, post-Silver world.
>>749010278Muerta and Willow fit the aesthetic/setting, but not the other two. Why is a giant frog walking around? And Marci's just a monk, nothing occult.>>749010453>Who the fuck think marci is good design? Ordinary anime faced foid #299393Yeah, a cute girl automatically makes her 6/10 because she's nice to look at. She's also mute so she's perfect wife material.>Gameplay wise the only notable shit about her is her UltiTHAT'S what you went with? Not that she's the only martial artist in the game? Not her suplexing enemies or bouncing off people's heads or whistling to teleport her courier to her? You went with, "Uhhh she punch fast and hard!"
>>749007871Lol, literally the opposite problem. Everyone is a rabid dog and ints the milisecond they see an enemy hero.
>>749010730Yeah Mina was the honey pot. Rich, asian, bitchy, sexy with a hint of gothic. Oh she is a vampire too.
>>749008401>or to replace skin color with race, like in Elder Scrolls for example where humans are divided into their own races.
>>749010756Her gameplay is dog shit, fucktard. There is nothing really scream martial artist. You would expect some kind of stance, or manually hitting button to do fist and kick and shits. But nah just a boring temu ursa.Thats why nobody plays that shit. Only when they overbuffed her numbers, would you see her in your match.Marci in a game where you have to aim your skills likes Shadow Fiend is just straight dog shit design
>>749010730>>749010786Mina was the canary that made valve realize the reality
>>749010896Mina is valve's kiriko and junoEven blizztard went full asian goon baits when the money started flow in
>>749009046There hasnt been any real reason presented to hate Ixians. Maybe in war times but like japs that went from camps to being adored even the very early on after the war I see no reason why a white american would descriminate against an ixian more than a black.
>>749010480They're going to re-add Cadence as Largo
>>749011308Which pixar movie is this?
>>749009531Will they dingdon bannu me if I use a mod to force all the characters to their default skin?
>>749011306The thing is, unlike black and mexican, asians already have a massive empire back home, a fuckin big base in asia. Why do they even here in America? The white man will never have the same influence in asia. But the asians are in the west in positions of power. Fuckin hell a vietnamese dude is america chief navy or something
>>749011360Largo doesn't look anything like a Pixar character, if only because he has actual frog features. Pixar's godawful artists would have given him the same ugly ass human eyes they give everyone in every movie, picrel.
>>748987152gg go next
>>749010180>>749009952>play sultan game>skele perma on screen>game is based around being an omega degenerate>made in chinaMe thinks the skeleton shit is another lie like social credit.
>>749010203Is saying Marci is good a running gag? She is utter dogshit and is the single worst design in dota.
>>749008262nigga are you retardedthey're practically the same designers working on itdown to the voice actors and color theory
