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Can someone tell me the secret to making this game fun
>>748971046Here
>>748970941Wasn't there supposed to be a new dungeon releasing last month?
>>748970941AAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHBut seriously though why do they want to compete with poe2 so badly?
>>748971578>competeThey're basically different genres
>>748970941>>748971578What happened?
>>748971615Yeah that's the point, why are they adding fucking dodge rolls and soulslike bosses to their game in a completely different genre to try to be poe2? Anyone who wants poe2 will just buy poe2.
>>748971673Lots of boss baby vibes yeah.
>>748971650>DLC is basically unfinished>balance changes that most veterans (the only people buying the DLC) don't like>devs are basically delusional about many complaints (as usual)>people seething about their builds being fucked with by balance patchesPerfect storm.
>>748971673>they adding fucking dodge rollsDid you wake up from a coma? The brain damage would check out as well.
>>748971796>hurrdurr but they had movement skills in da othur DLCYeah then they patched in an ACTUAL FUCKING DODGE ROLL at some point because poe2 had one and it makes the game retarded. Fuck you, shiteater. If I want to play poe2 I'll just boot up poe2. You know why I'm not playing poe2? I don't like poe2.
>>748971745>people seething about their builds being fucked with by balance patchesLet me guess it's >Nooooo, I am killing the final boss in 16 seconds instead of 10!!!11
>>748971904>Yeah then they patched in an ACTUAL FUCKING DODGE ROLL at some pointIt has been more than half a decade, anon
>>748971910It's more that when it first launched the new difficulty mode was seemingly designed for the uber builds that can burn down even the super bosses without much difficulty and if your build wasn't able to do that comparatively you'd be shit on repeatedly. Add on one of their moderators just telling people to, and I'm paraphrasing here, "git gud" it didn't help matters. They've been retuning a lot of enemy damage and health numbers for Ascendant because it turns out whatever their inhouse testers were doing wasn't what the majority of the audience was doing.
>>748972304>complaining that hard mode is too hardJust... Don't play on the hardest difficulty if you can't make a good enough build.
>>748970941the only complaint besides the story i have is how ascending gear was handled and how much fucking grind it requires. i have over 700 hours in this game and i wasnt able to get bis bonuses on my gear even after dropping all my wealth on it. fuck zantai tranny. i told him how fucking retarded he was on steam forums but he never responeded to me because obviously he couldnt make a comeback. i hope this tranny kills himself over his poe obssesion
>>748972656The bottleneck is the soul framents not the other resources though, your hoard from the past 700 hours didn't matterIt just takes a while to get enough even if you go in multiplayer and fight 5 nemesises and minute in a dungeon
>>748972859Dude you don't even play the game. Souls shit drops like candy. The money is what gets sucked dry to insane amounts once you reroll more than a handful of times.>j-just play the 1 shitty modeI rather play the normal arpg and not have this baffling amounts of money sucked dry for basic rerolls aka endgame crafting.
>>748972859ive used 600m iron. do you have any idea how fucking many souls that is?
>>748972954>The money is what gets sucked dry to insane amounts????Use the 2x Iron drops potion buff retard
The only way to properly play grimdawn is to download GoG releases before each DLC ruins your game because you didn't buy it.
>>748973001The system is overly grindy and not worth it because you don't even remotely need any of it for a competent build to clear ascendant mode. It's just a timesink for autists and it clearly caught you bad if you aren't just save editing the money in at that point.
>>748973208that was the deflection made by that faggot too. but the upgrades are enough in number and quality to make even suboptimal or meme builds viable. the ones that lack resistances or some other minor things. the typical popular builds dont fucking need it. making it cheap would help build diversity its the opposite right now.
>>748970941It took them like, an extra YEAR, to finish this, and it comes out and they seem to be incapable of learning anything. Shockingly bad.
>>748970941diablo wonpoe won
>>748973037Monetary cost keeps increasing on every reroll. Not getting what you want is already punishing enough, but the exponential increase in costs is completely over the top.
>finished game and reached 100 with one character>get cool gear that alters skills for class that I don't use>level restricted to 94 and would require doing the exact same stuff all over again> something about only getting ashes on a higher difficulty which means doing it all again any anyway.>make the 2nd character>that difficulty is locked until finishing the game on that characterI enjoyed it the first time round but how many times does this game want me to finish it. I just want to play around with endgame builds, not go through the entire thing 8 times.
>>748974090>>that difficulty is locked until finishing the game on that characterYou can buy an item to unlock all difficulties. I'm pretty sure you even get a quest to point that out to you if you managed to miss it somehow.
>>748970941was it better than previous expansion
>>748970941what? unlike diablo it's freeand unlike poe you can run it on a normal computer
>>748974710And you can extensively mod it, with total conversions being available too.
Is this the last yawn?
Is there even a reason to keep lvl 84 legendaries?My stash is getting full of them.
>>748974710are you saying if I previously bought Grim Dawn and Malmouth and Forgotten gods, I will get this one for free
>>748971910Couple of days ago a guy posted a video of killing one of the strongest optional endgame bosses in the game in just under 5 seconds.
>>748970941Fun expansion. Still playing it today. Raven is fun. Wish Poe 2 had fun builds.
>>748974843The only sane solution is to use GD stash and copy your legit items into the alternative GDS stash, then bring them out if you'll ever need them on another character.
>>748974906how
>>748974843Not really. I only save starter gear like Lokarr's set, Leovinus' Ring etc. And endgame gear that;s level 94+. Everything else is basically meant to be relaced regularly as you go though the game so there no real point in storing it.
>>748975019>on another character.Not an issue when you have the Lokar's set.
>enemy level scaling>dedicated roll button>sunderThis game keeps getting worse and worse over the years.
>>748975071Basically a full glass cannon with max potions and Onslaught stacking. Absolutely not viable for most endgame content since it can't take a hit, but it can wreck most bosses fast enough that the fights is over too fast to get killed.
>>748974872>boughtlmao retard
Fangs of Asterkarn or Last Epoch?
>>748975462Slormancer.
>>748975686Sad that this is the better game but it really is.
>>748975462>Last Epoch?Please don't do this to yourself.>>748975686Ew.
>>748975250can you even give an answer to the question
>>748974843There are a couple of build-specific ones, but if you aren't using iutem assistant or whatever, just sell them.
>>748975769>Please don't do this to yourself.Is it that bad?
>>748976902It's been in perpetual EA for too damn long and the devs keep releasing cosmetic dlc instead of picking an end point and properly releasing the 1.0 version of the game instead.
>>748974843the shield and healing ones like fiendflesh boots are nice.
I don't understand why people insist on playing inferior games instead of POE/POE2I honestly don't get it
>>748972585If your difficulty invalidates functional builds then its bad game design. 'You cant seriously build swordsman as a ranged attacker' is one thing but 'see all of this ice attacks and ice damage scaling and ice related skills and perks on elementalist? You cant make it good. You need to build fire instead' is a situation where google doc spreadsheets supercede game mechanics.
>>748978495Once poe adds melee, I'll think about it.
I just want someone to steal Epochs skill talent idea and refine it more. I want to be able to put all points into summon undead and have a world ending skeletal companion That still somehow dies in one hit.
>>748972304>the new difficulty mode was seemingly designed for the uber builds that can burn down even the super bosses without much difficulty and if your build wasn't able to do that comparatively you'd be shit onIs that not a good thing?The people who play this game do it to optimize builds and afaik people had already pushed the old max difficulty to the limit What's wrong with adding bigger numbers in a "make number bigger" simulator?
>>748970941YJK
>>748978618Sister, you may have posted in the wrong thread. Either return to the wolverine thread or play GD before posting in this one.
>>748978495No damage numbers in an arpg=dogshitSimple as.
>>748971046play a class with zero work involved and just walk around. for me it's necromancer pets
>>748980006Retaliation builds also make you click less but there's just better aoe damage builds out there
>bro just get 4k OA them the Dread is easy, broor just pick a class who does dot dmg and kite him that way for 5 mins
>>748976084that anon is talking about pirating it
>>748980839The Dread is piss easy. Oh no I have to kite and be aware of the map while I chip him down oooh noooo~Go play vampire survivor slopPussy
>>748979910>feedback is so bad I need numbers to know what is happening
>>748981201>proceeds to spawn in a narrow dungeon/cave with no options to kite/dodge
>>748980960no way, I want to support Action RPG makers, even the worst onesbecause even at their worst these games are better than most other types of games
>>748975462Last Ecuck is terrible, GD was nice, but man this last DLC kinda sucks assim having more fun playing a fkin idler desktop ARPG that sits on my 2nd monitor
>>748979846kekdidnt actually notice till now
>>748980006That is antifun>>748971046Actually try all the skills. See what feels mechanically fun. Go hard on that skill
>>748982487well I tried some skills, none felt fun, only necropet felt fun. the game's feedback is just awful for the most part. granted I didn't try everything but I checked some videos too and most skills looked unfun.
>>748975462Just wait for POE2 full release. People will talk shit but it's objectively the peak of the genre.
>>748982618>full releasepooe 1 is still updating shit and it "released" a decade ago or so, yes? I'll check back in a few decades, fine.
Grim dawn should've died long ago, it's not the sort of game you can milk forever. Btw how come everyone is suddenly just chill with last epoch? Wasn't there a storm of outrage when they made p2w shit, sold out and became an AI first studio?
>>748982779Ok, wait for it to be free. On the othet side, Diablo 2 is still having patches.
>>748982113lolis it fun?
>>748983194They left some unresolved plots that Zantai says go far beyond the scope of a DLC and will require a sequel to address them. But that sequel is not happening until the 2030s because despite complaining about being a small studio with very limited manpower, they're stretching themselves thin between endless rebalancing of GD1 and trying to finish the Farthest Frontier.
>>748971910It's more like the devs made a DLC for a 10 year old game with the previous DLC being 7 years old so 90% of the playerbase isn't used to having balance patches
>>748983336its not bad, actually fun to have on 2nd monitor either when shitposting or playing something elseits called Deskrawl
I have a Drain Essence apostate and am wondering how a DE spellbinder would compare. I'd lose the aether resist shred in Death Sentence but would gain survivability and more flat damage with the arcanist skills. I'd be using Uroboruuk's set which converts vit to aether on DE so exclusive skills seem like a wash. Thoughts?
How's WolcenAlso what about non BL looter shooters, are there any good ones in that department?
>>748970941I bought this game because it lets you be a big bird
>>748982618>if you ignore all the arguments against it then it's a masterpiece!Wow anon, thanks to this incredible wisdom I just bought Concord
>>748978495I'm trans btw, forgot to mention that
>>748982618>People will talk shit but it's objectively the peak of the genre.
>>748971650It doesnt elevate the game in any exciting way. More item autism instead of permanent player power, a big boring snow map area, you cant fuck the redhead, boring narrative, the new class sucks and is for furries.
>got the core game for like 2 buckaroonies>had fun for tens of hours>put it downSolid investment desu
>>748984713nice!
>>748978495I wanna play at my own pace, not being forced to play a game like its a second job and with zero relaxation since you gotta speed the hamster wheel before a league ends. Release the single player version you cowards you wont and the real reason is because modders would easily make a better game. hell, we're in a Grim Yawn thread and the better game is Reign of Terror mod
>>748983194well, that didnt happen. and besides that there is a new design lead.
>>748982618POE2 has tedious design and i will never fully support a game without true offline.
>>748986871>i will never fully support a game without true offline.based
