>game is supposed to have a serious and grounded setting>has nonsensical creature design that could never arise naturally
>>748973556>game has a race of chosen people>they kill their god when he appears in human form
>game has permedeath for everyone>until you learn about some classes spared from itunbalanced fucking shituninstalling
>>748973556No but really, and they don't even consider viruses to be living creatures? Wtf are they then?
>>748973556Are those coomer robots??? WTF why would god make that
>>748974578Whether they're living creatures or not is still being discussed within the biomedical community as viruses clearly "fight" and evolve to survive within their hosts, sometimes even developing versions of themselves in which they DON'T kill the host.
>>748973556arsenic based lifeforms are stranger to me than viruses
>>748974403The only truly immortal animal is the immortal jellyfish, which literally restarts its life cycle like a phoenix.
>>748974803They're bacteriophage viruses, which just so happen to look like artificial alien-made nanobots with perfectly polygonal heads and spider legs.
>environmental artists give up on 3D modelling>put debug models in the release build
>>748973556>Endosymbiosis good :)>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VIRUSES ARE NOT ALIVE NOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP DON'T DO IT NOOOOOOOOOif cells can gattai, they can bunri. if your faggot animal cells gobbled up mithocondria to do your heavy lifting because you can't breathe oxygen and now your cells are a composite of fat fuck cell dna and loli bacteria dna, why is it so weird when one of those faggot cells decided to create fucking drones that take over competing cells' metabolism to make more of them? parasitism is meta.
>has genetic material>seeks to replicate itself>sophisticated enough to infect other living thingshow the fuck are viruses not considered alive
>>748974937And it has no brain, so.
>>748975512Being made up of cells is one of the so-called requirements to be considered alive.
>>748975512My wife Illya
As a kid I used to be scared of viruses because all their depictions made them look like robots/droids and even when I was explicitly told they weren’t, it still felt like they were.
>>748975362I know of them but why are they coomer robots that’s the scary part
>>748974578life adjacentthe major difference is that they have no metabolism
>>748975593So a cell by itself isn't alive but two cells together are? How close do the cells need to be to get considered alive? Is there a grim-repear threshold?
>>748975512No cellsNo metabolismUtterly inert outside of a host cellAnd to be fair most biologists don't consider them "non-living" so much as in a gray area between life and not life.
>>748975763>entire purpose is to shove their genetic material deep inside their hostsI wouldn't accept anything less
>>748975860A single-cell organism is still made up of one cell. Viruses are not.
>>748975880ok, so.. how the hell do they get the energy to do the things they do then?
>>748975529No brain, no heart, no respiratory system, no organs basically, and it has existed since times immemorial and will keep existing long after humanity goes extinct.
>>748976014Maybe they have a cell really far away, like, at infinity, so you can't see it?
>>748973556Why does this thing look so menacing? It's one nanometer long and still manages to look like something that WANTS to make me suffer.
>>748975892>it’s the same way we reproduce but on a microscopic scaleWhat theFUCK does it mean is it just a coomer verse?????? (Coomer universe) is that what thr big bang was???? Did something inject something into something else and make the universe?
>>748975471This and Bismuth are weird, you tellin' me rocks can just look like that?
>>748976080They use (You)r energy.
>>748976207FUCK YEAH BISMUTH
>>748976192I'd hit it
>Game is installed on an HDD
>>748975529There could be jellyfish posting on /v/ right now!
>pregnancy is only possible because of viral dna finding itself inside our genome>retroviruses just infecting cells and never activating ending up only shoving junk down the cell's dna is so frequent that cells have entire janitorial systems to take care of the dumbfuck retarded dna influx in them.have you thanked these retarded robots yet, milk drinker?
>>748973556>looks like a hostile creature>is actually an allied unitMy expectations have been subverted, bravo
>>748973556You likely have hundreds of these raping you every second.
>>748974403>Axolotl>ImmortalThose niggas die if the salinity or pH of the water they live in is slightly too low or high. It's why they're practically extinct in the wild. The only remaining axolotls are bred in captivity as pets.
>>748976192>look like something that WANTS to make me sufferConsidering they're the most effective killers of bacteria on the planet, I'd say their design fits.
>>748976192Somebody at Nintendo thought the same and designed an enemy inspired by it.
>>748976205>we reproduce but on a microscopic scalereproduction literally occurs on the microscopic scale THOUGHwe owe these mini coomers our existence.
>>748976357becoming a pet means victory as far as survival goes
>>748976297Unreal Engine still does this on the fastest NVME SSDs.
>>748976327>his immune system doesn't rape them back even harderskill issue
>>748976080They infect cells, hijack their nucleus, cause the cells to shit out more viruses instead of sustaining themselves, and then leave the cell to find a new cell to attack.
>>748976418thanks doc
>>748975880>>748976213There are several oceanic parasites that have no metabolism. The parasite is grown and born by the metabolism of its parent's host in an active state and if it doesn't find a host quickly it dies immediately. Once it finds a host it uses the host as an energy source to grow into it, control it, change its reproductive system to use its own, and so on.
>>748976320>>retroviruses just infecting cells and never activating ending up only shoving junk down the cell's dna is so frequent that cells have entire janitorial systems to take care of the dumbfuck retarded dna influx in them.Living organisms invest a fuck ton of energy into ensuring their genome remains stable both to counter viruses but also to prevent cancer. We can actually track the importance of these genetic repair functions in the evolutionary timelines and see that many organisms share the same processes of DNA repair because it was so important that it evolved very early on.
>>748976327>hundreds
We should bio-engineer uber white cells who kill these faggots on sight.
>>748975512viruses are just used condoms floating around until something consume them in the right way
>>748976514We do that indirectly with vaccines tho?
>>748976449Captive axolotls are actually completely unsuited to life outside of captivity. They just die if you release them.
I like that when they put one of these guys in Pokémon they just drew the actual animal. It already looks like a weird videogame creature, why change anything in the design
>>748976478that's already implied
>>748976449>your survival depends on the whims of another species>they will torture your descendantsShalom.
>>748976514Why would we do that? Viruses are the #1 killer of bacteria on Earth. Killing off bacteriophages would do to the bacteria population what killing of spiders would do to wasps, smaller beetles, roaches, ants, locusts, etc.
>>748976554I thought vaccines were just inactive viruses whose injection makes your body produce more white cells, not better white cells.
>>748976192>>748976327They only care about fucking over bacteria though, it's in their name(Bacteriophage=bacteria eater). In fact there's such thing as phage therapy where you treat bacterial infections by letting these little niggas prey on them
>>748976192It makes sense if you look at prions, they need to have this shape because they need to attach to a specific place in order to replicateLife is full of things that replicate themselves but are not actually "active" in the biological sense, they just float around until they encounter the machinery they can infect. It's one way life might have started
>>748976639We then should design uber viruses to kill these bacteria.
>>748976579There are 5 seahorse Pokemon, actually. I got curious and looked up if anyone's ever eaten seahorses, and lo and behold, I found a handful of recipes, all in Chinese.
>>748976678humans have insane protag syndrome and can't handle other nature systems existing independently of them
>>748976648Vaccines send a shitty, practically dead version of DNA or RNA which triggers and immune response. This immune response adds that DNA/RNA to its list of shit to kill on sight. As a result B-cells which are part of the immune system will begin pumping out anti-bodies, which act as signals for white cells, signalling to the white cells that they need to kill that shit.A lot of countering a disease is detecting and responding to it. The reason why people die from it is because the body doesn't detect and respond to it fast enough.
>>748976764japs eat them too.If it lives in water, asians have probably eaten it.
>>748974937>It is one of the few known cases of an animal capable of completely reverting to a sexually immature, sedentary polyps colonial stage after having reached sexual maturity as a solitary individual.Imagine being able to go from a hag to a loli
>>748976764https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae-aG1DkhnoIn case anyone thought I was fucking joking
>>748976639damn, he's not even a one pump chump
>>748976850this plate looks like it's from star trek
>>748973556>class has a higher resist to a pootentially deadly debuff>can randomly spawn a debuffNot a fan of HLA-B27
>>748976462>anon buys a 400 TB/s Temu SSD for $9.99 to go with his $89.99 RTX 6090 >screeches about unreal engine online like a full-time time jobmany such cases
>>748976207Kozilek was here
The funny part about biology is that all over you and inside of you there exist trillions of microscopic living organisms effectively habitating you as if you were a planet.
>>748976850This just looks like some random assortment of decorations you'd leave out in an ocean themed room. Chinese really do eat anything, huh...
>>748976639kil the bacteria too
>>748976987only half the cells in your body are you
>>748976926autoimmune diseases are an evil curse on humanity. The ironic nature of them is right out of Pandora's box.Z*us will pay eventually.
>>748976834AI will make it possible but you'll still never be a woman
>>748973556Your view of life will change drastically when you realize even thoughts have the desire to perpetuate themselves, to 'live'.
>>748976319>no brains>no heart>keeps reverting back to immaturitySounds like /v/ alright
>>748977002>>748976831>If it has four legs and is not a chair, if it has two wings and flies but is not an airplane, and if it swims and is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it .>Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
>>748973556>rock/electric
>>748977086And even then they will die and be replaced by new cells, so the you from 10 or so years ago is completely dead.
>>748977163Why does that fish look sentient but also retarded
>>748977238>the you from 10 or so years ago is completely dead.Good, that guy did some cringy things.
>>748977086Often less
>>748977281He "plays" gacha
>>748977281rest assured it has no thought beyond wanting to consume the parrot
>>748976987Fun fact: mitochondria don't belong to you. The entire reason we can process food to make energy belongs to something that isn't us. We know this because mitochondria posses DNA entirely separate from human DNA. At some point in time in the distant pass early cellular life ate some other cell, failed to digest it, and in exchange for keeping it safe from the outside that mitochondrial organism produced energy. The bacteria in our gut are effectively the same thing, they are as much us as our mitochondria is, and our body knows this as women breastfeed their own gut bacteria to their babies to seed the baby's gut with necessary bacteria. Its the same reason why fake breastmilk results in babies with worse immune systems.
>>748977281Some fish are smarter than they are given credit for. It must be horrific to be granted intelligence while being forced to live in the ocean.
>>748977238the brain doesn't do that. That's kinda the problem when it comes to injuries. Same with ears and most of the eyes
>>748975482A seething archaean wrote this post while completely SIZZLING inside a thermal vent
>>748977327yea I remember that because of xenogears
>>748977023*gets a fucked up digestive system because all the nice and helpful gut bacteria disappeared*
>>748977327Cool
>>748977287Oh, well, I mean you, as in the biological machine that you control as the brain, the brain cells never really change. They are the same retard, all the way from birth to death.
>>748977347>That fucking tail swipeWhat an asshole!
>>748977306
>>748977398replace digestive systems with non shit ones
>>748977347what the fuck was his problem
I don't believe in the third dimension
>>748976514This is like wishing extinction on spiders just because you are afraid of how they look. Bacteriophages and spiders share one niche: pest control.
Being small sucks
>>748976449Go tell that to the Toadline Bullies, was it worth it ?
>>748977347what was his fucking problem
>>748977347what was his problem?
>>748976449humans were domesticated by cereals
>>748977347
>>748977398(((bacteria))) digestion is a SCAM. every pound of shit can still produce pounds of flies, which are made out the same protein as us. if digestion wasn't handled by those lazy fuck we could probably only eat once per week if not month.
>>748973556I saw three of these fucking Hornet from Hollow Knight and I gooned like a madman to it to the absurdity of it.
>>748977553>When I nut, but she keeps sucking
>>748977660>One of them goes inside of their hole to get sand>The other one just grabs a mouthful from a pileinteresting
>>748977660tsundere ass fish
>>748977669*Collapses the restaurant industry and reduces the amount of meals one gets to eat in their entire life by 85%*Heh, nothin' personnel, kid.
>>748975860Viruses don't have cells. They only have particles, called "virions". Viruses basically take YOUR cells, in your DNA, and twist them into more virion particles. And that's the only way they can reproduce
>>748975471>artist was too lazy to check if model wireframe markers were removed before releasing build
>>748977327You mean is the powerhouse of the cell
>>748977327IIRC, something similar happened with the umbilical cord, that the latching mechanism is from something else that was absorbed into mammal DNA.
>Video game enemy looks like an animal that could've been found on Earth but altered slightly so it is perceptively unique but still feels original
>>748976850Besides the seahorse those are all really common and mundane mushrooms you've almost certainly eaten enoki at some point
Everyone itt is just complex code written into acid
>>748977327>our body knows this as women breastfeed their own gut bacteria to their babiesOh? Is that why most mammals have their mammaries on their stomachs? Why do primates have their is such an impractical spot?
>>748973556Viruses don't really look like that.
>>748978215they do, I seen one
>>748976449That's what I keep telling the girl in my basement. I think she disagrees, but it's hard for me to understand her on account of the ballgag.
>>748978136The bots aren't
>>748976648The vaccine is like adding a list of non-guests on the party. Body has its own DNA as a list of legit guests but it doesn't know the non-guests and it's a question of>is it friendly or notwith vaccine you get a memo to kick out a certain fellow on sight.White blood cells do have biological memory of old diseases so they can respond better next time you catch an illness.
>>748978206Mammals have systems which trigger during pregnancy and sends immune cells to go and grab these bacteria and bring it to the breasts.
>game has min-max builds
>>748977347>It must be horrific to be granted intelligence while being forced to live in the ocean.they might think the same for those living outside of the ocean
>>748977086there are more bacteria in your body than your own cells. intestinal bacteria dictates what you want to eatapex animal species btw
>>748978101Nah, probably not. I hate mushrooms and refuse to eat them.
>>748977327>Females have unbroken bloodline of mitochondrial DNA up to their ancestors>Males have an unbroken bloodline of Y chromosomes up to their ancestors>For a female to have only male offspring or a male male to have only female offspring is essentially killing a part of their heritage.
>>748978421yeah its a scary field of science we're poking our heads into. gut bacteria being in control of a lot of things, and bone marrow being linked to neurological disorders
>>748978394They don't think about us at allThey act surprised every time a fellow fish gets scooped up by a bird or a fisherman, then they forget about it until they themselves get caught
>>748978215This. These depictions are outdated and based on a load of old science that has no chance of holding up to scrutiny these days, there's no reason to believe we look like this because the logistics just make no sense. Why would a virus need to store their precious materials inside a crystal on their head? It just offers them no benefit. Stop posting this stupid shit now and go educate yourself, misrepresenting viruses by attempting to expose fake details like this is purely an anti-science perspective. There are NO caches of precious materials on a virus.
>>748978378The ultimate life form looks so fucking retarded.
>>748978378>99999 DEFOP fucker
>>748977990Fail
>>748976624>>your survival depends on the whims of another speciesWelcome to the world of parasites, one of the most successful types of lifeform
>>748976561Much like color morphs, the cure to this would be to gradually subject the captive-breed axolotls to conditions found in the wild (pH in the water, salinity) until they can withstand them.
>>748978378It's literally just the real life Metal Slime
>>748978527creepy robotic crystal tendrils typed this post
>>748978587he already said shalom
>>748978373I seem. That still seems highly inefficient when you could have had the input and output right next to each other.
>>748978136no wonder nature is so hostile
>>748975512Because you could make the argument they are just very complex and strange prions.
>>748978640trvth nvkem forever
>>748977142>Your view of life will change drasticallyNot really, I'll still play vidya
>>748975471>>748976207>>748977909I miss angry geology anon, he had some nice mineral samples.
What's your favorite animal you've never seen in a video game? I've never seen a geoduck, the closest is Pyukumuku from Pokemon, but that's a sea cucumber and not a bivalve, though they are both mollusks.
>>748977510>>748977560>>748977628The history of their conflict is complicated and nuanced.
>>748978527>we
>>748978658You would still need to involve the immune system so the body grabs the correct bacteria and hauls it to the breast milk. Its just a slightly longer trip since human physiology needed to adapt where things are located after standing up.
>>748978373>>748978421>tfw you get evicted to the brat because you asked for pineapple pizza with anchovies during her pregnancy
>>748978527>there's no reason to believe we look like this
>nonsensical creature design that could never arise naturallyIf you’re retarded, sure. Ilya Prigogine won the Nobel prize in chemistry for dissipative systems in the 70s. Proteins, RNA, and viruses are all a byproduct of that. We’ve even been able to model them on computer simulations using simple algorithms since the 70s. Try picking up a book.
>Dev left the project after adding an undocumented feature and no one has any idea what it is
>>748976327I'm not a bacteria, I'm fine.It's a bacteriophage, does nothing to animal cells
>>748978527Yeah that representation is old af, is well known in modern science that bacteriophages have feathers
>>748977327Wrong. Our bodies produce the mitochondria. It is ours.
>everyone is chill being asexual and just cloning themselves>oxygen arrives>lots of energy, but it also slowly kills you>constantly having to heal oxygen damage also damages your dna>your clones come out with the same damage as you and it accumulates>develop a sack of perfectly undamaged dna to be mixed with another organism to avoid this, inventing sexual reproduction>100 million years later>tfw no gfWhy cant we go back to not using oxygen?
>>748978527>there's no reason to believe we look like
>>748976080They don't. A virus is fitted at one end with molecular receptors that allow it to attach to a specific type of cell and interface with the insides(mimicking the way the host cells share food and such). The viral DNA gets inserted into a cell's DNA. Then when the cell tries to replicate, it hits the virus DNA's instructions and instead of printing more cell DNA, it builds a copy of the virus DNA as well as the entire "body" structure for it. This then loops until the cell explodes and releases multiple copies of the virus to float around until they find another cell they're capable of attaching to.
>>748979137>Parasite reproduces within you>Therefore it's ours
>>748979137It's a long time since I studied this shit, does the mitochondria have a different life cycle than the cell replication process, or it's the same?
>>748973556H-Games were these are enemies?
>>748978527This you, lil bro?
>>748979118>I'm putting together a team
Real life video game enemy
>>748973556>picrelLove those little prioniggas like you wouldn't believe
Dev really ran out of ideas at the end huh>Uuuuh make them venomous too
>>748974825>sometimes even developing versions of themselves in which they DON'T kill the host.That doesn't really make it living. That's like saying a river meeting a dam develops a version of itself that flows around the dam.
Bacteria are the reason why I can't have sex
>>748979020There's a big one spreading on my porch, I really do like the smell though
>>748979262Even high level areas need level 5 enemies to make it feel like a real environment.
>>748979254if you put a bunch of these cells together could you make a big person
>>748979214those bacteriophages are cool guys, they kill tuberculosis
>>748979254O shit its the Loc-Nar
>>748979254How does it hold itself together?
>>748979254That's a grape.
>>748979254that's just a grape, dumbass
>>748979254the Holy globule
>>748979381>>748979373We can say "rape" on this board you tiktok addicted zoomers.
>>748979254>largestIsn't that the ostrich egg?
>>748979254We must ponder it
>>748979254I want to bite it.
>>748979214>h-gamewho the fuck would lewd a bacteriophage?the fuck is it going to do? land on her eggs like it was the fucking moon?
>>748979359Chemistry. It may be one cell, but it's made of many many molecules.
>>748979254What would happen if I cut it in half?
>>748979501They would be scaled up enemies
>>748979471Technically not an organism but a reproductive cell
>>748979513It drops 10 gold and rarely a health potion.
>>748979253so the most evil looking one, the bacteriophage, its actually the nicest guy of the bunch?
>>748979513
>>748979501I'm sure someone will find out a way
>>748979254yeah right that's just a grape
>>748979657>single cell organism>look inside>cells
>>748979124Underrated
>>748977142It's all patterns in the end. Just patterns repeating through time. The best book about it I've ever seen is pic related. Stephen Wolfram's A New Kind of Science.It turns out not only can order be born from chaos, chaos can be born from perfect order.
>>748977327You're basically correct but I have a couple notes. Mitochondrial DNA is passed down through your mother, and we can actually track said lineage all the way down to the "mitochondrial Eve". And yes, the mitochondrial DNA is likely the result of some fucky-wucky plasmid transfer from some other smaller single celled organism which eventually evolved into an organelle (potentially via a bacteriophage a LONG fucking time ago). There's a similar phenomenon with chloroplasts, I think. There are a lot of segments in the human genome which are likely remnants of viral genomes which essentially do nothing and account for a lot of intron DNA which just gets spliced out during RNA generation.As far as your gut microbiome goes, that's largely unique to the individual and what they're exposed to through their diet. A lot of that happens in utero. Natural breastmilk does indeed have benefits with regards to having a diverse microbiome which is kind of helpful for an immune system, but the main benefit for said immune system is actually the transfer of IgM antibodies in the milk.
>>748979254mmm grape
>>748979713Aren't those white cells tho?
>>748979713Is this a coom
>>748979262And bioluminescent
>>748979735It's the same cell. Just multiple clusters of it.As opposed to having different cell types, like one for eating and one for moving, etc.
>>748979835It's Cells At Work (Osmosis Jones for weeaboos)
>>748975512They're just DNA wrapped in a protein skin, they literally can't do anything besides infect a host to replicate.
>>748979657Cool. How does that cell wall form? It looks like upscaled multicellular plant cell structure
Viruses owe me sex.
>>748979741That's just a walrus anon.
>>748979825Yes, but if they're able to lewd white blood cells, I'm sure they'll find a way to do the same with bacteriophages.
>>748979859>white blood cells>keep things working properly and maintain orderWhat the fuck did they mean by this?
>>748979843>this is a single-brick house>hmm? what about the smaller bricks that are clearly laid atop one another?>it's the same brick, just multiple clusters of it
>>748979758I also recommend Heinz Pagel’s Dreams of Reason. Ian Malcolm’s character was inspired by this guy according to Crichton.
>>748979865How the FUCK do random DNA strands just COINCIDENTALLY arrange themselves in THIS specific shape that SPECIFICALLY fucks up with other human cells without ANY personal drive on their side whatsoever?
>>748979870It's a type of algae and those are its chloroplasts. They look green on the surface, but they usually live 10-ish meters down in the water and have a more surreal look down there.
>>748976080they don't generate any type of energy themselves. They don't make ATP or utilize anything like glucose because they don't need it. They are purely parasitic and rely on the cell's organelles to replicate. They're detrimental to the host cell not because they literally stop it from working, but because they cause it to focus the mRNA and protein folding mechanisms into producing so many viruses that the cell literally explodes, shooting them everywhere. Your immune system fights this mostly by just fucking killing cells that are infected with the virus and trying to chemically neutralize any others that have a matching T-cell receptor. Shit's crazy
>>748975471This combined with those instances of brilliant mathematicians finding elegant solutions or connections between almost every aspect of math to other fundamental physics stuff is why I'm agnostic as there is some design to the world. It could arise naturally but the question is, did it start on it's own or an outside force? And even if we consider it started on it's own, is the universe concious and experiencing life and slow decay since entropy is the natural state of existence? Like math is one of the few fundamentally true things in existence.
>>748979825Anime didn't adapt chapters with bacteriophages, if they even existed in non-spinoffs.
>>748980025It’s not just DNA it’s also proteins.
>>748979713how the fuck can those fat cows pass through blood vases
>>748978504it's a bit narcissistic to worry about that, isn't it? But very human. You should also know that the Y-chromosome has literally gotten smaller and continues to shrink. There's VERY little genetic on a Y compared to an X. They're borderline vestigal. I think it's like 3 times larger
>>748980203They need to be milked first
>>748973556Cool
If viruses were 4 feet tall and could fly around at 10mph how many do you think you could you defeat unarmed? Also they only weigh like 12 pounds.
>>748980234>it's a bit narcissistic to worry about that, isn't it?I mean the whole point of making children is to pass on your bloodline right? If you have only daughters as a man, or only sons as a woman, you kinda fail at that.Then again once we unlock gene editing at an industrial scale (which is inevitable), passing on your genes is not gonna matter whatsoever so it was all kinda for nothing anyway.
>>748980342And he'd fucking do it again
>>748980387>4 feet tall but only 12 poundsthey'd probably just explode if you punched themassuming there's no negative effects to that it's probably a really high number
>>748979713>eosinophils play a role in breast growth during puberty>depicted as flatties
>>748980481YOUYOU RUINED EVERYTHINGDIEEEE
>>748980387I would arm myself with the viruses and use them to beat other viruses to death
>>748980481>*punts him back into the ocean*
>>748980203They're very squishy
>>748976250>>748976207
>>748980025A million billion trillion quadrillion quintillion instances of random chance spread out across hundreds of millions of years, once you end up with a configuration that replicates and spreads a lot it will... replicate and spread a lot.
>>748980420Not really, just because it's easy to trace Y and mtDNA doesn't mean the rest of your DNA isn't your bloodline.
>>748980110a h-game featuring a bacteriphage should be a osmosis jones clone but inside the body of a shameless gooner and a fresh intern just dropped in from a pill or something
>>748978504Consider all the humans who failed to procreate due to infant mortality, wars, accidents or other causes, every single one of them was descended from the very first living organism in an unbroken chain of life spanning billions of years. Chain that ended with them.
>>748980025>SPECIFICALLY fucks up with other human cellsStop slandering T4s, we aren't harmful to humans in the slightest
>>748980562The mineralfag was truly a special autist.I miss him dearly and would trade the hundreds of ritual posts here for one single bismuth
>>748980234>You should also know that the Y-chromosome has literally gotten smaller and continues to shrinkIt's not just happening to humans it's happening to all mammals on the planet.
>>748980481>featherless bipedUh?
>>748980556Hey asshole, you let one escape
I am more than just a bunch of cells. I have a soul.
>>748975512they are we are just ignorant
>>748980420people have been arguing about the exact point of reproduction for a LONG time, anon. Is the biological imperative real? Do you have kids to propagate YOUR genetics or for the overall benefit of the species? Why did you select THAT mate and not the other one? Beauty? Their personality? Immune system compatibility that you subconsciously recognized? There are plenty more questions to ask without even getting into any religious or freaky eugenic discussions about it. It' snot that simple
>>748980662That one is clearly quadrupedal. This one, however...
>>748980596So... Hataraku Saibou Black?
>>748975362>bro they look like aliensIts funny when people say this shit about viruses and deep sea shit>Bro they look like aliensNo, retard, they're weird looking and as such people figured that aliens look like that because they look weird.....its literally the opposite
>>748977638took my 9 yeareals to collect the cereals
>>748980696>Why did you select THAT mate and not the other one?Because she likes vidya just like me.
>>748978378You will never fucking convince me that this isn't a troll by whoever designed the simulation we live in. This fucking thing is a joke. It's an existential mockery
>>748980686That's just what the cells make you think.
>>748980737All I see in this webm is a miserable little pile of secrets
>>748980556>running away like they were in a 2d planedeserved. should have swam up or down.
>>748975529god i wish that were me
>>748980556>Special cells act as libraries to remember past defeated infections and more quickly to identify and combat them if they returnWhite Blood Cells are awesome.
>>748980851>like they were on a 2d planeAnon......how do you think they recorded this?
>>748980851Well that is a petri dish.
>>748975512Its the metabolism thing. They don't use energy.Like a cell is a guy. It wants food and it poops stuff out and that kind of thing.A Virus isn't a guy. Its like an algorithm. Its malicious information in a discrete package. Its more like chemistry that can self propagate. Very complicated chemistry, sure, but it doesn't pass into biology quite yet.
The entire family of felidae is like day one patch animals to add artificial varietyThey are literally identical, except different textures and scale
>>748980851if you squish the microscope slide down enough, it's basically 2D even for the little guys. Kind of rigged stage selection, final destination only
>>748980737He only uses his front fins to walk, the middle ones are useless for that and his back fin is a part of a tail. I'd characterise that as a biped.
>>748980905>brotherhood of steel is actually an immune system, since they have knights vs scribes, just like killer t-cells and memory t-cells
>>748980626>we
>>748980805huh, didn't know they already did that. I only watched the original.
>>748980961>the entirety of dragon's dogma dark arisen's second act
>>748980556Huh, cell models in edutainment make them look like orderly planets that glide through space when everything is just jittery specks and blobs.
>>748980640How long ago was this? Was this on /sci/ or were there off-topic /v/ threads I missed?
>>748976207That scene in Superman where he's in the bismuth dimension was really cool
>>748980905Don't some killer T cells basically retire just to tell other T cells what they remember?
>>748981089there's basically zero empty space in a cell. They're extremely crowded, and everything is designed around having the maximum surface area to volume ratio. It's extremely efficient, actually. But you can't diagram that out very well, or animate it. The basic lessons from those diagrams are correct and enough for general education, but for a holistic understanding you need years to really understand how it's all linked together.
>>748978862Holy shit you remembered me!!!I'm posting from mobile but if you want I can post my minerals and crystals on /hr/.I'm glad someone remembered my posts all these years later, back when we had to moderate ourselves.
>>748981128I'm not sure, but I'm willing to say 14 to 15 years ago. /v/, /a/ and /g/ were the only boards I browsed back then.
>game comes with a pre-order bonus
>>748974825>>748979274It's almost like "living" is an arbitrary designation for a set of natural processes more useful as a way to standardize communication than it is to actually describe the things it refers to
>>748973556Why do they look like robots? This shit is scary.
>>748981336>"They're starting to realize.">"Shut it down."
>>748981336Little spider robots that want to kill you.
>>748981315what am I looking at
>>748980025Isn't that bacteriophage? I thought it fucks up bacteria not human cells.
>>748981336They're just strings of protean, they don't actually look like chrome robots.
>>748981486I think it's a snail with an innie shell
>>748975512Because biologists are schizophrenic and the entire field consists of vague classifications that don’t even work half the time. The line needed to be drawn somewhere and since viruses fall just short of it they’re considered “almost alive”
>>748979164>oxygen arrives>lots of energy, but it also slowly kills youHUH???
>>748979954They only humanized things that are alive
>>748981646free radicals are one hell of a drug
>>748981089>>748981190I found a detailed video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V61n8a6dpOo
>>748981646Ever wonder why the term oxidation sounds similar to oxygen? Its because oxygen is the ultimate electron acceptor in biochemistry. It oxidizes things, or in other words it takes electrons from molecules that it shouldn't. This stealing of electrons causes unintended reactions for the organism and can unbalance its processes enough to kill them. Anti-oxidants are such a meme thing in nutrition science because people want to counter this phenomena.
>>748981715Damn.So if I breathe less, I'll live longer?
>>748981824Trump was right when he said too much rigorous exercise shortens your lifespan. That nigga is in his 9th decade of life so he'd know
>>748980838Why don't those cells make me also think that I am a handsome charismatic man with confidence if they want me to reproduce?
>>748976764I tried fried seahorse when I was in Japan.It tasted like fried anything else.
>>748980574I read that as Midna
>>748981931You posses loser genes lol
>>748980686Souls are made of spiritual cells.
Forget viruses, you want to see some truly fucked up shit, look at prions>90% smaller than viruses>no genetical material at all, just proteins that somehow got into the wrong shape>once it is misfolded it can induce other proteins to misfold>you now have basically zombie proteins>they can infect your fucking brain
>>748981924yeah only his hand is rotting a bit and whatever hides under that suit haha
>>748979262>It’s a mammal right? Make it lay eggs to fuck with people.
>>748981974You forgot:>there's no cure, if this happens to you it is fatal
>>748981336Some of them look like bunnies.
>>748974578Soulless, genuinely. That's why scientists have such a hard time defining them.
>>748973556>that could never arise naturallyBut it did and therefore it can
>>748981974>One protein in your burger or whatever ends up in a funny shape>You fucking dieScary shit
>>748981958Those genes worked pretty well for my ancestors, no?
>>748976579Funny how some animals look like weird as fuck and wouldn't look out of place as enemies in a JRPG
>>748982087>But it didProof?
>>748976179Can you call it existing if it can't feel anything?
>>748981974I'm not too familiar with prion science but how do they avoid triggering cellular decomposition?
>>748981974You forgot >really hard to destroy
>>748982120We know it exists and we know magic doesnt existTherefore magic cant have created it So the natural forces we know and see have created it
>>748982064And some turn bunny’s into Elden ring enemies
>>748977327AAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHMY MITOCHONDRIA IS BURNING UPPPPPPP
>>748982187>and we know magic doesnt existProof?You also didn't refute the possibility of any artificial creation from other intelligent life.
>>748982108Yeah if your burger was made from a cow with mad cow disease, you now have variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease and about 12-14 months to live
>>748976561>conservation are importantI will never understand this, let things go extinct.All this fucking talk about natural balance and evolution but they refuse to let things take their natural courseUntold damage created through shipping shit between continents on mass but GOD FUCKING FORBID THAT ANT DISAPPEARS FROM THE GENEPOOL
>>748979835manga has few nipple shots but otherwise no
>>748982050Monotremes are actually the most ancient form of Mammalian life. Placentals and Marsupials evolved much later. There are only 5 extant Monotremes left, though, and 4 of them are echidnas.
>>748982241Waiting for this to happen on a mass scale in the US thanks to importing millions of pounds of unregulated third world argentina beef lol
>>748977281>>748977347There's pretty good evidence that most animals could pass the mirror testFish related: https://youtu.be/s_aNH4hXz8I
>>748981974>This is happening to deer in north america right now. It's so widespread that there is no stopping it.
>>748976987I always thought about that, what if we are those same things for some guant being in the future. Like the solar system becomes a gigantic creature and we just chill inside as their own version if bacteris gut.
>>748982228>The project's name was: Metal Gear Protozoan.
>>748982369Pure cohencidence of course.
>>748982239The least retarded option out of a set of explanations tends to be the right one >Option A: A gorrilion million things were born over a harambillion years and those that didnt do well died and didnt give birth so only shit that did well is left>Option B: Fucking space alien magic bullshit gmod menu spawned those things last wednesday lol
>>748976297> One of the finest roadcuts in the world, with a clear view of the san andraes fault trace crossing right through it, possibly the only place on earth with such a clear and well deliniated view of a major fault trace> They cover it up with spraycrete specifically to stop people looking at it because it was "distracting"Way to go, Caltrans
>>748982369there a ton of deer that live around and i feel a sense of dread whenever they show up because of it
>>748982227yeah ain't no way that's real
>>748982360>most animals could pass the mirror testFriendly reminder that little african niglets only manage to pass the mirror test at 6 or beyond
>>748982436Option A sounds a lot more retarded to me so I guess it's option B?
>>748981736>predatory cumshotBased white blood cell. Would blast bacteria again.
>>748982153Don't commit cannibalism or eat animals that did it. That's what caused mad cow, lazy farmers were feeding left over cow meat to cows.Cannibalism is one of the primary causes of prion disorders.
>>748982471Cats can't pass the test either because of their relatively small brains
>>748981646nigga oxygen caused like 3 different extinction events
>>748982535My cat passed it doe.
>>748982514A: thing that 100% did happen and had the effect we think it did B: thing that has never been observed ever since we created devices that can record things
>>748982465It might be where the Jackalope cryptid came from
>>748976987Everything is a fractal. A cell is a collection of molecules that work together. An organism is a collection of cells that work together. A society is a collection of organisms that work together.
>>748982471The mirror test doesn't work with all animals, dogs for example might not pass it as smell is their pimrary sense. If you instead made a "mirror" for smells they would pass it 100% of the time.
>>748982591>A: thing that 100% did happenProof?>B: thing that has never been observed everProof?
>>748976850>two dried-out seahorses>a couple normal looking mushrooms and then several nightmare fuel fungusThe kindest thing I can say about that shit is that I'm pretty certain it was cooked long and hot enough to make sure everything in the pot was dead before someone put it in their body.
>>748981190Yeah I guess it is hard to visualize. I realized that in another video where basically all those ideas I had about "why is biology still so fundamentally unknown sometimes?" when you then realize it is so cramped in there with networks and connections that it now makes sense. It's a city built on top of another city.
>>748973556The leading conspiracy schizo theory is that viruses are actually ancient nanomachines.A decade+ ago I laughed at that and thought it outrageous. But now? I wouldn't even be surprised.
>>748982597>>748982227how can they even live long enough for it to grow like that, unless it grows extra fast?
>>748982535cats are way too goofy to be tested for anything, they are so retarded they couldnt even figure out if its possible for a cat to be special needswhen they arent in murder mode their brain is showing a screen saver
So what's the point of talking with all of you if we are all a bunch of cells?
>Do nothing but loiter>Win
>>748976207Minerals, not rocks, can look like that. Crystals in general follow pretty simple geometric shapes based on their molecular structure. Like quartz, for example. Quartz wants to form a hexagon, because it's shape likes making hexagons when you stack a bunch of other quartz molecules together. Ice does the same.
>>748982642>Proof?eyeball 1 >Proof?eyeball 2
>>748982738Can you show proof of your claims or not?
>>748976207>webp.pngI see what you did there and I'm still glad to see people hating the atrocity known as webp
>>748982706I only have 3 plates, am I a platelet?
>>748982696Your cells find it amusing
>>748981646>>748982575You're....LYING!!!!You're just working for big Nitrogen....>Morpheus cell steps inYou think that's what you're breathing in?
>>748981939I want Midna in my bloodline tbdesu
>>748982686Nature finds a way
>>748976514We should bioengineer bacteriophages to treat bacterial infections resistant to antibiotics. Apparently there's an inverse correlation between antibiotic resistance and bateriophage resistance. And since bacteriophages only attack one type of bacteria, there's little risk to humans.
>>748982791More like I want my bloodline in Midna
Oxygen is my FRIEND I literally NEED it to live. I won't tolerate this obvious slander that its somehow evil or kills people.
>>748980816Not aliens, alien-made robots. It's very different, and I don't think people figured out the concept of spider-like robots after looking at them.
>>748982330The joke is that all language is arbitrary
>>748980234My Dad has nothing but sisters, and his cousins from his father's side all moved away long ago so as far as my tiny-ass town is concerned, the lineage dies with me. Kinda based.
>>748982868>The farmer is my FRIEND. I need his food to live. I won't tolerate this obvious slander that he's somehow evil or kills us farm animals.
>>748982868You're not gonna believe this, but oxygen? Its an oxidizer. As in, it CAUSES fires. You are on fire right now.
>>748982868The extinction events they cause were just outdated life forms that couldn't adapt to the changing times.
>>748982935
>>748982935AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>748981974Shit like this happening due to cannibalization feels like mythological punishment
>>748982935+100 Fire Resistance
>>748982935I blame sodium and potassium.STOP PUTTING SALT ON YOUR FRIES
Post some spooky shit that would make for good vidya settings/backdropI don't mean scary looking animals, I mean spooky facts about life.Here are some examples>Prototaxites, those big prehistoric fungus trees from 400 million years might not have actually been fungus at all but something completely else>We only have coal because bacteria that can break down treebark hadn't evolved yet in Carboniferous, trees just lied there forever after falling over.>Some extinctions in the past may have been caused by a start going super nova to close to us or a neutron star causing a star quake
>>748982689That's just cope.
>>748973556>not alive>also lets specifically render them as mechanical spider botswhat the fuck is wrong with the cunts who did this
>>748975512Define "alive".
>>748981974So if you eat a high protein diet you're more at risk?
>>748982531>That's what caused mad cow, lazy farmers were feeding left over cow meat to cows.Sounds like karma. Who the fuck looks at a dead cow and says "oh I'm gonna feed my other cows this" without a hint of moral remorse? I wonder what's gonna be in store for us when the whole "feed antibiotics to farm animals and keep them in increasingly shittier conditions" no longer works. It feels like a ticking time bomb that's gonna explode in our faces one day.
>>748976192they look like spiders and humans have an innate aversion to that or many legged creatures
>>748983101The great oxidation event is pretty neat>be you, a bacteria just chilling in the primordial soup with your homies>life consists of eating CO2 and shitting out oxygen>shit so much you shit up the atmosphere>shitting up the atmosphere causes all the iron to rust>you needed that iron>die from too much shit
>>748982868Oxygen is basically a shortcut for making energy. In anaerobic life, like some bacteria, 1 glucose produces 2 ATP. Compared with roughly 30–32 ATP when the glucose is fully oxidized aerobically.So oxygen allows us to produce 1600% more energy. But at what cost?
>>748983198If you're not vetting your protein, yes. Usually that's the government's job but... lmao
>>748974825virus is simply the ultimate NEET lifeform
HOW the fuck is /v/ so civil and on topic discussing biology? Why can't video game threads be like this?
>>748982783>stabs you in the heart because he's a nigger
>>748973775Such is the retarded nature of italians
>>748983198Heat denatures proteins.Don't be a moron, cook your food.
>>748983101I'm just glad we're warmblooded. When you're coldblooded you have deal with fungus infecting your body and bloodstream (warm blood is enough to kill them) and can turn into a zombie and have mushrooms sprouting inside you.
>>748981974>>748983027>some population from Papua New Guinea developed some sort of resistance to it after generations of cannibalism
>>748982758burden of proof is on the guy that says magic is real
>>748979118>I'm not a bacteriaWRONG
>>748983283>on topiclolThe highest quality discussion is never on topic.
>>748983346Actually it's on the guy making a claim.
>>748983283Because the bots arent programmed to shit threads like this up
>>748982686unless you get hit in a specific way dying is hardanimals will just continue to suffer until they drop dead, not like they can seek help or kill themselves
>>748980964what does naruto has to do with this thread?
>>748983283It’s just a fact about 4chan; the best discussions on any board are discussions not related to the board
>>748983382Good point. Containment in action.
>>748983283Because you don't have people arguing from the side of a singlecelled organism while people will absolutely pick sides in Nintendo vs Sony, SBMM vs random matchmaking, accurate translations vs localizations, ugly characters vs normal characters, etc. When it comes to nature, you humans can just be neutral observers because we are the masters of nature.
>>748982465It's basically the rabbit version of skin warts, only theirs are a lot shittier than the ones humans get.
>>748983307prions are resistant to heat but nice try
>>748982686I think it does grow extra fast. I think they fall off after a while too.
>>748982535Cats are just flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters
>>748983230The iron ocean thing is super interesting, that for a couple million years the world looked like brown shit.There is also that theory that for a moment the world was purple because the chlorophyll equivalent is actually simpler so early photosynthesizers may have used that before being displaced for some reason >>748983329I remember reading that one reason we may have evolved warm bloodedness was to avoid predators because cold blooded freaks become letargic during the night while we could move under the light of the stars.It has also something to do with our vision too.
>>748983198Not necessarily. In fact most cases of CJD happen sporadically due to genetics. Very few people have actually gotten sick from eating infected meat. It happened in the UK only because they a bad mad cow disease problem in the 80s and 90s
>>748983364Well lets hear it then op >>748973556>>has nonsensical creature design that could never arise naturally
>>748981974wololololo
>>748983283Honestly? Because the topic is too complicated for most shitposters to take part in.
>>748982471>>748982535Watch the video niggersThe whole point of it is some fish-loving Japanese professor proved that an extremely dumbass fish passes the mirror test 100% of the time, but only when you put a specifically colored dot on it that mimicks one of their natural parasitesHis point in doing this is that most animals that "failed" the mirror test probably just didn't give enough of a shit to pass the benchmark in a noticeable way despite most likely recognizing themselves.
>>748983307hope you like your steaks well done
>>748983520wololo
>>748983101>>Prototaxites, those big prehistoric fungus trees from 400 million years might not have actually been fungus at all but something completely elseLovecraft predicted this one.
>>748983463There's actually evidence to suggest otherwise. For alzheimers, anyway.Tl;Dr: Finland and its saunas are beating Alzheimershttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6965159/
>>748983230Wait like ......climate change
>>748983478You would, instinctively, think that cats are more intelligent than dogs at first blush. However, in aggregate, dogs end up being much smarter and friendlier than cats.Women being catlike and men being doglike has many layers.
>>748979758Maybe our universe is full of patterns, or maybe it's in human nature to seek them. Deep down we all seek meanings.
>>748983515You'd have to ask OP, but why do you seem to think the only options are "it happened randomly for no reason" and "magic aliens appeared last Tuesday and poofed it into existence"?OP also didn't claim magic is real. You claimed magic isn't real. So can you prove that?
>>748983549Related to Lovecraft, there is a possibility that there millions of colossal squids loitering in the deep Antarctic waters based on sperm whale dietary needs.
>>748983589Him being unclear about it supposedly being aliens and or magic is just one more reason for him to put up
>>748976491You're confusing appetite with metabolism. If the cells are using energy to actively pursue a new host, even if they can't acquire more fuel to keep going beyond what they start with, that's still metabolism. Viruses literally do not use any energy internally, they are essentially a primed complex chemical reactant
>>748982535My kitty is super smart and handsome. Don't you dare try shame him
>>748982376Bionicle is this
>>748983515>God can ONLY make flesh and blood creatures like birds or owls he would NEVER take an interest in abstract mechanical life!!!
what are some videogames that apply biology principles?
>>748983283The best place on 4chan to discuss something is anywhere but its designated board.
>>748983717The lego toys?
>Roll dice and get fucked by RNG>Pulmonary embolism >You just die, even if there's medical personnel near youWtf how's that balanced?
>>748982535dumb kot meme was real all along
>>748983725gay sex
>>748983678>t.
>>748983567Some fag told me I'm wasting my time going to the sauna when I can just go for a 15 minute jog since "you sweat the same way anyway, sweat is sweat". I kept telling him that it's not the same and there's definitely differences but he didn't buy it since I could only argue based on "feels". I feel vindicated.
>>748983283
>>748983101There has never been a recorded Orca attack on humans outside of captivity. The apex predator of the ocean, the one that kills great whites just to eat their livers and leave the rest to rot, is smart enough to acknowledge that humans will kill for revenge too.They also just recently were recorded figuring out how to kill Blue whales. They literally drown them by holding them under water.Its becoming increasingly clear that an animal that is smart enough to avoid humans on principle would be extremely difficult to actually document if its natural habitat is hard for humans to exist in. Colossal Squid, since they're so elusive, were only officially documented in the 90s and we only got a look at a live one in the last 10 years. There is every possibility that large marine animals that avoid humans are still out there. Related, cave systems are some of the least documented environments on earth.
>>748983332>Resilience demands deathI hate it.
>>748983589>"it happened randomly for no reason"It happened for the specific reason of that being the path of least resistance in the given system for the given organism.And it succeeded in doing so by virtue of having ludicrous amounts of time and tries.Saying thats "random" is like saying a ball rolling all the way down the hill instead of stopping halfway is randomA thing that was bound to happen happened because it had enough time.
>>748983763Yeah. The lore is that all of Bionicle takes place on a planet-sized giant Bionicle.
>>748983725Thrive. It's basically Spore, but open source and not shit.https://www.revolutionarygamesstudio.com/
>when I'm doing the healing and when God's working through me, about 50% of HP is regenerated at the time, on the other hand about 50% of the time HP won't be regenerated, but usually within 24 hours about 99% of players will fully heal and recover from all status effects automatically
748983723nobody is talking to you christcuck stay in your lane
>>748983835>It happened for the specific reason of that being the path of least resistance in the given system for the given organism.The path of least resistance to where?>And it succeeded in doing so by virtue of having ludicrous amounts of time and tries.Oh okay so it did a bunch of random other things too until something just randomly worked?
>>748983774Got 3 of those and lived, shit really is bullshit.
>>748983567thank god, CJD is cured, just go to the sauna bro
>>748983917>to where?To not dying and having sex>>748983917>randomlyFavorably*
>>748982535>Beagles are smarter than CorvidsHoly shit
>>748983774stuff like this makes me yearn for a robot bodybiology is gay
748983898>troony lefty meltyis it 3 o'clock already?
>>748975471>yellow rock has poison debuff that goes through objectswow very grounded yeah
>>748983954>To not dying and having sexWhy is the organism driven to do that?You also didn't address where the organism originated in the first place.
>>748983823This is true to a degree, but it's more likely to be small animals. Large animals need to eat more to sustain themselves and we'd pick up on it, especially in the ocean; the existence of colossol squid was inferred from scarring on whales a long time before we ever found one of their corpses. This goes doubly for caves because there's isn't much energy available down there in general.The recent discovery of that cave that was completely filled with mosquitos and spiders, both of a previously unknown species, that constituted an entire microecosystem all to themselves is a pretty good demonstration of what you're getting at, though
>>748983283These threads are fun because the morons are happy to learn new and interesting things and the anons who work in those industries have fun explaining stuff.
>>748983478Aren't we all?
>>748973556That is a bacteriophage right?i remember reading some years ago that those could be used in medicine as a treatment for infections resistant to antibiotics but haven't heard much about it ever since then. there is not much new info about it so i never knew if it was something real or fake.i don't know much about medicine or biology but i find this subject interesting.
>>748983973More like 5 o'clock amirite
>>748983917>Oh okay so it did a bunch of random other things too until something just randomly worked?Yes
>>748983823I assume you are familiar with the story of Old Tom and his pod that helped fishers in Australia catch other whales until a miscommunication of intent led to an accident that ended the pact.There are also those crane birds that can allegedly count fish and help some Asian fishers.I remember reading about microbial life being found deep in rock where no one expected there to be any
>>748984024>Why is the organism driven to do that?What are you gay or something?>You also didn't address where the organism originated in the first place.Maybe a god started it but the current state of things is 100% the end result of natural processesCould be god's big ass rube goldberg machine but you people are just too in love with the "snapped his fingers yesterday" bit
>>748983803>I feel vindicated.not so fast, faggot>Regular exercise also has a protective effect on the risk of developing Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases (Paillard et al., 2015). Consistent and frequent participation in moderate to vigorous physical activity was found to reduce the risk of Parkinson’s disease by up to 40% (Xu et al., 2010). Similarly, exercising three or more times per week is associated with a lower incidence rate of dementia and Alzheimer’s (Larson et al., 2006).
>>748980094>physical evidence of math
>>748983454>elephants are literally smarter and more civilized than Niggers and Indians
>>748984016>random rocks cast invisible damage that slowly melts you from the inside out by unravelling your dna strandswho came up with this shit?
>>748982535Reminder that despite teaching primates hand-sign language, and parrots how to talk, there was only ONE instance in ALL of recorded history of an animal using language to ask a question: a parrot asking its owner what color it is. Not a single ape in captivity ever used sign language to ask humans something. I just found that interesting.
>>748982064NYAAAAA WHATS UP, DOC?
>>748984106and a shadow!
>>748983961AROOOOOAROOOOO
>>748984118>What are you gay or something?Less snarky non-answers, please. Can you tell me why the organism is driven to do that?>Maybe a god started it but the current state of things is 100% the end result of natural processesIf a god starts a natural process how does it stop being the work of that god? >but you people are just too in love with the "snapped his fingers yesterday" bitI haven't even made any claims about what I think, I'm just asking you to prove your claims that you're so certain about. I guess asking you to do that is, for some reason, causing you to hallucinate me being an imaginary person whose beliefs you have decided on ahead of time?
>>748983789My kitty is also orange. God i love him so much. Hes a big fat poo that sleeps on my lap as I game, snoring away. Little man's just sawing logs.
>>748983961Can't be right. I've never seen a Beagle show a complete understanding of displacement, buoyancy, cause-effect physics/temporal relationships, unprompted complex tool use, and a general understanding of their surroundings to the point that they know they can use cars to crush open things they normally can't open. Crows are peak intelligence. Smarter than most Kenyans.
>>748984235That sounds like a massive fucking lie but I cant be fucked to look it up, kys though
>>748984291I see, I see. Very astute, Porkchop.
>>748984112>I remember reading about microbial life being found deep in rock where no one expected there to be anyThat one is pretty crazy.They're essentially extremophiles that can go decades in hibernation. They exist at the absolute limits of how far down we can drill to get samples. So there's really no reason they can't exist right up until it gets too hot for biology. Most of them are chemophiles of some sort, although I think I heard some of them are radiophiles, who metabolize radiation. And they exist essentially in cracks between rock.Because the Crust of the Earth is so deep and expansive by volume, its estimated that pound for pound there is more life below the soil layer than there is on the surface of the earth. And its all dumb hibernating bacteria eating chemistry and radiation.
>>748980094>Like math is one of the few fundamentally true things in existenceAnon, I...
>>748976834It would be a horrifying process. Like imagine the hags body turning into a pregnant corpse that gives birth to her younger self.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisker_(metallurgy)>Metal when under electromagnetic stress can just grow tendrils for seemingly no discernable reason
Yes, thousands of years ago we dropped tiny self-replicating nanomachines on your planet just to see what would happen. What are you gonna do about it earthniggers?
>>748984297>>748983515
>>748984235Koko couldn't converse, no. It was all wishful thinking.Birds are weirdly smart. Corvids, parrots. I wonder what it would take to push them over the edge with careful breeding to get them a developed enough language center.
>>748980025Erm, ackshually, they don't do anything to human cells.
>>748984373You know exactly what you just typed out
>>748984419>>748983589
>>748984380
>>748984210>can be crafted into a material that has 85,000 times the energy density of gasoline
>>748984235Actually I think there's two instances, both African Greys.Though it could be debated that asking a question is just a form of mimicry.
>>748974403>game has age verification auto enabled>considered a 5 star crime if you provide body fluids to someone under the 18 year age
>>748984436Total bros of the microscopic kingdom. Honorary Humans.
>>748984332>its estimated that pound for pound there is more life below the soil layer than there is on the surface of the earthwhat
>>748984447I am talking to OP, not you, there is no burden of proof on me and I am not going to interact with your non falsifiable hogwashMaybe god started the big bang, maybe its the dog from silent hill, can proof either so they are equally valid
>>748973556>that picHow does shit like that even exist?
>>748984235Koko was very good. But I believe at least one of the primate language experiments resulted in an ape inventing a word it didn't have, or combining two words to describe something. I don't believe Koko ever got that far.If you're interested in Koko there's a dude on instagram with an African Grey doing similar training. Its quite endearing. ApolloAndFriends or something similar.
>>748973775Your point?
>>748984304I dunno, I'd believe it. Certain dogs certainly show high levels of intelligence. They can read the facial cues of an entirely separate species whereas crows cannot. The higher tier of dog intelligence is remarkably close to what corvids are capable of.
>>748981176You're probably talking about helper T cells which function to activate other cells, including other types of T cells, in response to pathogens
>>748984016If you're going to use uranium, at least use a green mineral. You know, the color of radioactivity.
>>748984235>His last words were "You be good. I love you. See you tomorrow."
>>748984509bullSHIT
>>748984538>there is no burden of proof on meIf you make a claim then yes, there is.>and I am not going to interact with your non falsifiable hogwashI haven't even made any kind of claim. I have done nothing but ask you to prove your own claims. What exactly could you call non-falsifiable?
>>748983774A guy one year older than me just died one day from that shit.Sometimes I still think about it.
>>748984554I think Apollo is the only other parrot ever to ask questions too.He's a good boy who loves Wario and hates bug.
>>748984557It's great how chuffed the dog is to be doing this
>>748984557>They can read the facial cues of an entirely separate species whereas crows cannot.because crows dont have facial expressionsif we go by social intelligence birds btfo dogs
>>748983961bird brains are more efficient than mammal brains
>>748984397We're gonna nuke space.
>>748982535Cats understand mirrors all the time, those numbers by themselves do not show what an animal can learn or knows.
>>748984554>Koko was very goodwasnt koko basically retarded and all she wanted was to hug cats and fuck her coochie?washoe i think was actually intelligent. she was even documented teaching her baby sign language, or trying to
>>748984535Yeah. The soil layer is like, barely anything against the volume of the earth.I think I've heard comparisons like if you were to size the earth down to the size of a tennis ball, it would be smoother than a billiard ball. The difference between the highest mountain and the deepest part of the ocean is barely anything compared to how big the earth is.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/sperm-whale-vowel-patterns-communication-discovery>CETI’s previous scientific findings, aided by artificial intelligence, have already revealed a strikingly intricate system of sperm whale communication — including groups of clicks, called codas, with elements that can function like human vowels.
>>748984546Same reason we have things like this
>>748984397https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_khWy7GAcQ
>>748984726cats are basically retarded and have the same intelligence as a bear and bears are retarded
>>748984710That's also up for debate. Canines notably have very complex group and social dynamics. We have breeds that we bred to select for specifically that type of intelligence that are capable of herding an entirely distinct 3rd species unrelated to humans or canines.
>>748979187>A virus is fitted at one end with molecular receptors that allow it to attach to a specific type of cell and interface with the insides(mimicking the way the host cells share food and such). The viral DNA gets inserted into a cell's DNA. Then when the cell tries to replicate, it hits the virus DNA's instructions and instead of printing more cell DNA, it builds a copy of the virus DNA as well as the entire "body" structure for it. This then loops until the cell explodes and releases multiple copies of the virus to float around until they find another cell they're capable of attaching to.How did the big bang make shit like this?
>>748978378i love these little dudes like you wouldnt believe
>>748977142Wow, it's almost as if the word meme is derivation of gene.
>>748984557Not really a fair comparison.Part of domesticated dog's evolution and breeding is being able to get along with humans, which necessarily means reading our facial expressions and mirroring them back at us to some extent. We have pressured dogs to be able to do that over hundreds of thousands of years of breeding.We didn't do that for crows. Its not really surprising an animal that has not been bred to read another specie's facial expressions can't do it.That being said dogs are best and goodest bois. Corvids are cool and lots of fun to interact with once they know you a bit. I like them both
>>748984778What's the name of that juggalo spider?
>>748984623>I haven't even made any kind of claim.ayo same
>>748980046>They are purely parasitic and rely on the cell's organelles to replicateSo where did they come from?
>>748984764>I think I've heard comparisons like if you were to size the earth down to the size of a tennis ball, it would be smoother than a billiard ball. The difference between the highest mountain and the deepest part of the ocean is barely anything compared to how big the earth is.This reminds me of how on Mars there's a mountain so large, if it were on our planet, it would basically go outside the atmosphere.Imagine the mythologies people would've made about a mountain that's guaranteed to kill you when you climb it.
>>748984908Infinite time giving random bits of matter the ability to interact with other random bits of matter leading to increasingly complex patterns
>>748984764It is a good visualization for statistics and how raw numbers don't give the full picture.Statistically Earth's surface water contributes like 0.01% of mass yet it clearly is a dominant feature of our planet.And like you said, tiny dumb bacteria can add up to more biomass than we can see.I really hope we get to explore Titan's liquid lakes. Even if the chance is small, I want to see closure on that within my lifetime.
>>748985020Reality doesn't make sense at all.
>>748984778It took my arachnophobia forever to catch up on this pic, odd feelingI stared at it for half a minute no problem but now I dont even wanna look at it
>>748985014Olympus Mons is also larger than the entire country of France, and due to its size, it actually has an incredibly gentle slope. So gentle, in fact, that you could build a city on it.
>>748985014would make a great and cheap spatial base though
>>748984778
>>748985014I could climb it
>>748985164thanks for the jumpscare bud
>>748985010>So where did they come from?You expect people to write a two sentence explanation or something? Here, go read it yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_evolution
>>748985187It wouldn't be so much of a climb as it would be a stroll up a gentle slope.
>has existed continuously for hundreds of millions of years unchanged>not even remotely endangered>has no predators >eats one time in its entire 7 year life>produces almost no waste>barely moves>barely thinks>reproduces by just cumming into the ocean and letting currents do it for themis this the ultimate lifeform?
>>748985164We need a fight between this thing and Myrmidon the Forgiven
>>748985087You have now correctly identified the best regarded end points of all philsophical, religious, and scientific thought
>>748985014Anon, the first Everest summit was 100 years ago and the first no-oxygen summit wasn't even 50. Before that it was the mountain that killed you.
>>748985268>rad glasses
>>748985250I could gently stroll up it
When I ever I start lurking wikipedia for weird animals I always end up in astronomy reading about weird stars and vice versa.
>>748985268>>eats one time in its entire 7 year lifelook at this disgusting fat fuck
>>748983101There's a species of giant wasps in Indonesia that we literally never found any living examples of. For some reason we only ever found their corpses and that's our only proof that they even exist.
>>748985268Basically the same as this big dumb idiot fishNothing eats them because they taste bad and have almost zero nutritionThey produce millions of eggs at a time and just shit them outThey aren't strong enough swimmers to fight currents and just kinda go whereverExclusively eat jellyfish, the only animal dumber than them
>>748985441plenty of shit like that in the ocean and especially nothing special for insects
>>748985268Thats adorable and hilarious. >>reproduces by just cumming into the ocean and letting currents do it for themHehe
>>748984960Never implied otherwise. Dogs use large chunks of their brains for social interactions, and smarter dogs are able to socialize with plenty of other non-human animals as well. Crows exhibit the same behavior only to humans and wolves. Dogs (certain breeds) are capable of it with sheep, cats, humans, cows, goats, horses, and even other great apes. FWIW, Orcas are even more capable, they're just assholes to everything that isn't a human or orca (unless they're feeling some kind of way about it, like mother orcas who adopt whale calves after losing their kids).
>>748985014>>748985154this nigga farted away in aspace all the precious CO2 and nutrient mars needed to become earth2
Since this is the thread: I saw an emerald spider for the first time in my life this week. It was pretty cool.
>>748985441>>748985494That is partially because they live in genuinely remote shitholes for which good luck getting funding to set up an expedition.>>748985483These dumb fucks apparently can dive real deep, there was a pretty good video about them recontextulizing most of the slander thrown their way.
>>748985564Thread's over, bro.
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>>748984210you can eat uranium and nothing will happenit's heavy metal poisoning that'd kill youthe radiation danger is jewish lies.. you can literally take a tour of chernobyl
>>748985725I find it funny that you can technically drink mercury with no issue, but the burps are what's gonna kill you because the solid form can't pass through the blood, but the gas can pass through the lungs
>>748985725>you can literally take a tour of chernobylI can vouch for this. It really opened my third eye.
>>748985725Yeah radiation's threat is so weirdly overblown.I blame overly cautious scientists.Like the "guys who died in Chernobyl cleanup had to be buried in lead coffins!" shit is absolutely completely ridiculous. And it bothers me that kind of fear mongering has tainted nuclear power's acceptance for decades
>>748985268>the ultimate life form
>>748982227>>748982597Iä Iä
>>748982369>>748982461For what it's worth, this shit tends to be cyclical. I saw a lot of hunters discussing a few months ago that they used to see a lot of zombie prion deer and now they don't, and that it seems to kick up like once every 50 years and eventually peters out. I don't know how true it is, but it's not like it's going to perpetually accelerate and kill everyone.
>>748985725t. Monolith
>>748985426actually, yes, kind ofonce they find a source of food - usually a whalefall - they eat so much that they physically cannot move because they're too full; until it's properly broken down and integrated into the body, they're too fat to budgethey'll spend the rest of their lives sipping off the lipid stores in their body from that one meal
>>748985827Why does your moth have fat titties?
>>748985827MODS! MODS! ANON IS HORNYPOSTING AGAIN!
>>748985827
>>748982935You cannot burn me, i'm already on fire.
>>748985917Humans aren't the only animals with titties... we're just the only animals that have permanently engorged titties.
>>748985946You can't stop me.
>>748985827H*man m*n
>virus thread>566 posts>somehow the "VIRUSES AREN'T REAL" schizo didn't appearhuh
>>748981336Shit's so small shape theory actually starts to be viable rather than just going sack like most unicellular organisms. Some viruses still sack it up because you can't beat sack in the micro world, but you can also just be the equivalent of a AIM-9 sidewinder missile that knows it's in the interstitial fluid and has the smallest possible fucking container of explosive rna strapped to it as payload. Or maybe lots of viruses are autistic. They seem like they'd have the autism of the tiny world.
>>748986095(they) got him
>>748986095he's probably at a Trump rally
>>748986147I wish I was at one. Met my ex at one.
>>748986095I'm pretty sure most "X Schizo who always appears for Y threads" is also 99% the OP of Y threads and their failure to appear are just examples of anyone else posting a Y thread. My source? I don't know man I'm just good at working things out I'm just built like that man I'm cool.
>>748986095I love talking about videogames.
>>748981226You have or had a nice stibnite which holds dear to me because it was the crux of my minerogolgy exam. But yeah those were good times
>>748984820Bears are so smart it's scary
Goodbye lads, it was a nice thread.
>>748986057>Pubes poster goes unpunished by mods
>>748986343Bears suckt. not salmon
>>748986343>Anti-bear trashcans are a tug-of-war battle between making it too complex for a bear to open but not too complex for the smartest /v/ user to open or get too bored trying and just throw the rubbish on the floor.
>>748986016I knew I loved elephants but I didnt think id love them this much.
>>748973556>>>748985268I LOVE giant isopods.
Best thread in weeks on /v/.It was an honor, anons.
>>748986709Do NOT lewd the elephants
>>748985192>You expect people to write a two sentence explanation or something?yes
>>748974403Phi the macrophage is great.
>>748986759Do you think their titties are soft or hard? If you started groping them would they smash you into the ground like an indian? Are their nibbles just as toughskinned as their body or do you think theyre soft like human nipples?I have so many questions, anon.
>>748986726Well that's a challenging wank
>>748985483>Nothing eats them
>>748986739Yeah, it was niceThanks nerds, see you around
>>748986797I didnt know i was a furry.>dog tiddys, people tiddys.. Tiddy.
>>748986947>if only you knew how bad things really are
>>748986991You are tiddy-sexual.Understandable.
>>748986250kys
>>748980696I think it’s simple. Genitals feel good when you sex. It feels nice to be with someone you like. You seek out relations that match up with a search image based on your parents and childhood peers. The imperative isn’t to reproduce per say, but your various biological systems conspire to help you do it. It happens enough times, those traits are favored, the lineage continues.
>>748976856This is going to sound like cope but why is sex ideally a lengthy act anyway? Wouldn't being an instant nutter let you reproduce more effectively? Especially if you think about struggling but not infertile couples who have to give it a good few tries. Surely slamming 8 creampies in a day is easier than trying every so often for weeks.
