Raph Koster, a veteran of Ultima Online, warns about the obsession with high-resolution graphics and the rising of development costs.
I just learned who this guy was from the Majuular video about Ultima Online. Great series of videos. This guy was the last bastion of true MUD design in MMOs. But the casuals won in the end, like they always do.
>>748975101Ultima online didn't share mud design. However, Ultima online from 1998-99 was the best video game that ever existed
I mean, he has already been proven right. AAA is crashing and burning under its own weight. Especially in USA where salary expenses are also unsustainable.
>>748975016No man. the next big things needs to be isolationism becuase you can't compete with an indonesian who can make those shiny graphics at 1/10 the price of a Cali dweller.
Gaphics were perfect in sixth gen. HD PBR shaders took all the soul out of game design.
>>748975239t. PKer
>>748975403Every invested player was a pk/anti
>>748975239>Ultima online from 1998-99 was the best video game that ever existedWhat the fuck?!
Games never needed to look better than Crysis 3.
>>748975016>Western faggot now parrotting what industry genius yamauchi warned the industry about over 3 decades ago
>>748976304>based traditions from America teaching foreigners about industrial efficiencyFaggots will keep learning from their Western Besterns.
>other website screencap threadthese need to be permabannable
>>748975016Why are some people LARPing like AI doesnt exist, I just don't get it
>>748979469Consumer hardware limitations. And no, computing streaming is never going to be a large scale solution for consumers, the streaming infrastructure can barely handle even current cloud gaming and literally nobody is investing in improving streaming right now.
>mogs your ue5 graphics
>>748975016He is right.Art style is far more important.
>>748980073Visual clarity too. Yellow paint is a necessary evil thanks to busy textures and ultra realistic lighting that blends everything in or hides detail
These warnings have been made before. No one listened and no one will listen. Anyone who would understand and act on this already started doing so two decades ago. See: Nintendo.
>>748975016This is anti-RAM pls delet
>>748979985Ironically Mirror's Edge (top right image) was made with UE3 kekI really can't say whether it's just incompetent devs or actual malice from Epic that UE5 has devolved into a hallmark for pure unoptimized slop
>>748980073Objectively trueStylization > ultimate fidelity
I've always wanted to see a game with a modern budget but with the fidelity of a 6th gen game. Imagine throwing 200 million at a game that looks like Morrowind. Graphics would eat up 1% of the budget, asset creation would be piss easy and you could add a near infinite amount of handcrafted content to the game.
>>748982439Bit of both, 5 was the version that pushed to have every light in game handled by raytracing which is a huge part of why it runs like shit.It sucks because originally it was just for developers to test map lighting without having to build light maps for every change (which is a cool QoL addition), but ended up getting used in place of traditional lighting systems.We also just have massive teams of developers that don't know how to write 'hello world' without the functions being built into blueprint modules.
>>748975016>high-resolution graphics are too expensivemodders routinely make higher def content in their spare time than the game creators released for freewhen this guy was relevant, the game industry was a tiny fraction of what it is nowgames with tiny budgets can still be successful like dressmaker, how much must that have net over its cost and it doesn't have 'shitty graphics'
>>748975016bro is several years too late
Mirrors Edge on PS3/360 looks better than most modern gamesSame with Dead Space the original 360/PS3 versionSame with Batman Arkham Knight on PS4Its like modern technology is only being used to offset worse technical ability of the creators
>>748975016AI already solved this problem, what a dumb boomer
>>748983690I remember watching a dev interview with Rockstar and they said they only did Arkham Night because they wanted to do something new and the batmobile was that. Yea the batmobile was shit but it's important to note how back then they had standards and felt ashamed making the samey slop over and over those standards are gone now
>>748983042>brother went for a game dev course >joke with him that its a terrible choice>graduates>only knows blueprintsgrim
>>748975016We're already there thoughThe current big thing is Roblox, minecraft, and fotm indie friendslop
>>748983807Does the AI make the game have gameplay? Or is it still just loading screens?
>>748983690game design today is>open ue5>open fab>buy 1000 assets>slop them into a map>no, no, don't worry about the thousands of red lines in the profiler, the players can just upscale from 400p>ship it
>>748975016Just so long as we can agree that we did need to progress quite a ways past ultima online before we reached the point, which we have reached, that graphics were good enough.
>>748984139wait it's possible to use ue5 and not have horrendous performance? I'm absolutely tech retarded and I just assumed it couldn't be done, on account of how it isn't.
>>748975396>sixth gen. Seven gen.
>>748975016Don't Roblox, Fortnite, and Minecraft all have 2012 visuals?AAA shit is just giving an excuse to own meme shader GPUs that cost more than a car.
>>748983807Modern "good graphics" look bad. The frames of this video that are supposed to look worse are in fact exponentially better
I got really pissed off at Richard while watching Majuular, when he mentioned that part of Richard throwing a fit at Falcom for "plagiarizing". What a fucking bitch, he deserved his franchise to die the way it did. Fuck him.
>>748983042>>748984026>blueprint modulesWhat's that?
>>748984629They were plagiarising, and badly. However, a less egotistical man would have asked if they could just change some of the assets to be less obviously "inspired" instead of throwing a tantrum. You have to remember that Garriott was an actual rockstar celebrity golden boy in the space at the time.
>>748984309possible? we'll never know because game devs will never go into the analytics to see what's wrong, its all just default settings. ironically your only hope will be ai slop but even that has to understand what's happening and what's trying to be done in the game and it might think rendering smoke particles at 4k is normal. xbox and ps also have tools like pix and razor to help with performance.
>>748975016This next big thing already exists and it’s called Devil Spire Falls
>>748985051Give Garriott a few decades and he will literallt be in space as well.
>>748975016E33 already had shitty graphics and everyone forgot about it instantly
>>748983807thats a girl btw
>>748975016It's fun watching the luddites lose over and over again