why didn't they just... do this?
Why didn't they remove the anti-soul gas? Well, they don't want the game to look good of course.
>>748975442Why would you want the whimsical children's game to contain whimsy?
probably doable with lots of 2D assets but it would require extra work
i want even less than both
>>748975442Hire this man
Top: mysterious, ethereal, fairytale likeBottom: forced soul
The point is to make stuff look farther away than it actually is
>>748975442Bottom looks worse.
>>748975442Both look like shit
>>748975779the stuff in the bottom pic don't look closer than the top
>>748975442How did BOTW look like again, when Link first got out the cave and stood by the cliff overseeing the area below? Why don't you do that same treatment on that game?
>>748975442The bottom pic is actually nowhere CLOSE to the original palette and look of the game. You just remember it being bright because you had new colour receptors at 5 years old. OOT is supposed to have pretty muted tones. This is fine. The above is actually closer to the original vision. It's misty because Hyrule field is at the base of an enormous mountain and surrounded by huge canyons. Also fine.
>>748975442Visual clarity... IN MY MODERN GAME??!?!!?!? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I NEED DULL COLORS, I NEED VOLUMETRIC FOG, I NEED THE GAME TO LOOK LIKE MY THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE SO I CAN FEEL IMMERSED!
>>748975442Graphics processor unit speed limitations?
>>748975442So they have an excuse to put out a Super Switch 2 remaster that just applies DLSS5.
>>748975442>misty Hyrule fieldIt's growing on me.
Cool it with the anti-semitism
>>748975442I suppose the same reason why you don't blast high-decibel music through your ear-canals for hours on end.
>>748975950> OOT is supposed to have pretty muted tones. NO THE FUCK IT'S NOT NIGGER. High fantasy is suppose to be vibrant not muted. A little bit of fog is fine but this isn't Silent Hill
bottom looks far more generictop is more mysterious
>>748976180>that imageDamn. Why would they do that?
>>748975442They've been corrupted to the core.
>>748976348Because anything that goes mainstream inevitably becomes shit. Modern audience is too stupid to understand art. They think realism = better because reasons.
>>748975442Why would they do that? You literally pre-ordered the top one. You would shit shit if it had pretendo logo in it
>>748975442Could the Switch 2 handle something like the bottom?
>>748975442Can they? All the extra foliage being rendered would put a heavy strain on the system.
>>748976180What's the best source to watch LotR?
>>748976180right looks better
>>748975442All games just suck the color out of everything now like WoW Forever sucking all the color out and putting a stupid fucking white fog everywhere.
>>748976564>Modern audience is too stupid to understand art. They think realism = better because reasons.I'll be honest, I don't think anyone other than the people editing the movie were to blame for this one.
>>748976000this pretty much, it's one big demoralization campaign
>>748975442Can the Switch even handle that LOD at that distance?
>>748975442The Shitch 2 would die if it had to render that draw distance.
>>748975442Obviously to hide LODs and pop in
>>748976662Whats there to handle? LoD exists for a reason. Just make everything beyond the gate a 2d sprite until you get close enough.Do that and it probably would've run on the Wii
>>748975779If that's the purpose then they made it look worse for nothing because it evidently doesn't work
>>748976662It could handle it if they showed even a little restraint while designing Link's outfit instead of cramming in as many unnecessary details as possible.
>>748976180>High fantasy is suppose to be vibrantThat's fine then, because Zelda is not high fantasy.
>>748975442The people have told that the Switch 2 is a proper console now and no longer an underpowered fisherprice tablet like the Switch 1 was.They shouldn't need this fog on a game that looks this unremarkable, right?
>>748976702For a pure original look, feel and sound, the DVDs will never be beat. The color timing is original, sound is original in the DTS-ES mix and not changed for a faux Atmos sound remix. The original score in DTS-ES is amazing and should be heard in its originality. The sound alone just encompasses you while watching the film. Better then any 4K re-release with faux sound remixes and unnecessary HDR grading. The Blu-ray is a close 2nd if they didn't change the color and de-enhance the sound. I'm sure there's a fan edit somewhere, that brings back the original color grading.
>>748975442Genshit unironically looks like the bottom image
>>748977246No 35mm fan scans floating around?
>>748977332>The raw 4K 35mm theatrical scans digitized by archivists like Snoopac on OriginalTrilogy.com are widely considered the ultimate source for an authentic film-projection experience of the trilogy, outperforming the heavily DNR-scrubbed official digital releasesAlso lol, bluray murdered the picturehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4KfsCejHB0This is exactly what happens to gaming as well. Everything needs to look the same for modern audiences.
>>748975442Famitsu bros, how do we counter this?>>748975950Go play the game again.
>>748975442Recently there is only a big game able to deliver this, but I'm not going to name it because there are close minded people that can't accept the truth. If you played it, you know what I'm talking about.
>>748976662Yes of course, zoomer kun
>>748977736Crimson Desert and Xenoblade X?
>>748976564That doesn’t make sense. Why do people think outside is some muted brown poop world? The outdoors are extremely vibrant, inherently saturated, and full of color. The world ISNT brown fog simulator that “realism” in modern games implies. Grass is very green, trees are very green, the sky is very blue, dusk and dawn are very orange pink and red
>>748977296That's Pokemon WW.
>>748975442The anti-soul gas exists to hide low LODs in distant objects. Look at mods that remove it from MH wilds for example. Distant objects are actually way lower quality than you imagine and the fog just makes it harder to tell.Not defending it of course it looks like garbage, but the solution isn't just disabling the fog because it would still look bad, they would actually need to do a lot of optimization work.
>>748977296Another low contrast trashfire
>>748975442>noooooo ai ruins the artists vision!!!!! respect artists!!!!!!!!!!!>oot, artists vision>nooooo, stupid artist niggers, your vision SUCKS!!!!!!!!! do it like this way!!!!!!!!!
>>748975442So they can sell you a remaster in 2 years.
>>748977821I'm 33.
>>748977135LIMINAL AS FUCKreminds me of the backrooms
>>748975442it would be too good and therefore thats not allowed
>>748978138theres been a pokemon world war?
>>748975442NINTENDO PLEASE JUST ONCE MORE HIRE THIS MAN
>>748978208>>The anti-soul gas exists to hide low LODs in distant objects.Its really not needed when those 'distant objects' are 4 pixels tall on your screen and buried in DLSS blur too
>>748978131Most game devs are bug creatures who spend their whole lives in some dystopian grey asphalt nightmare city and never venture much out of it, and if they do they soon forget how nature looks anyway because going out of their city is seen as just an inconvenience and the can't wait to get back to their hell hole so they don't spend any time taking it in. And if they are daring enough to travel somewhere for vacation, they choose to go to just another fucking city or at most just a beach at the edge of a city
>>748977605>Go play the game againI did and yep. The palette was exactly the same as Twilight Princess
>>748975950>>748979896Why are you lying? Even putting that aside, it looks way better either way.
>>748975442Well you don't want OoTmake to run at N64 framerates do you?
Boomers love fog because it makes the world feel larger.Pseudoboomers hate fog because they think boomers don't like fog.It's that simple.
>>748976000but bottom has less visual clarity than top? top focuses your attention on your immediate surroundings which is what you should be paying attention to in a video game. bottom spreads the focus to everything in view in a way that makes no individual area in the screen properly stand out. it works for something like a painting, but not for an action video game.
>>748980613fog is fine if it isnt being used to desaturate colors my autism demands nice vibrant colors for stimuli
>>748980810>top focuses your attention on your immediate surroundingsI would rather focus on what I want to focus on thanks
probably because it looks badnext question, retardany more dumb fucking questions, moron?
>>748980873that works great for human eyes that can dynamically focus on things, but video game cameras have to choose where to focus in a "one size fits all" way.
>>748975442>why didn't they just use AI slopBecause unlike rightoids Nintendo knows how to make art themselves.
>>748980887yeah, why are you gay?
>>748975631"whimsy" equates to pollution to you?You'd have to work for Nintendo to be damage controlling this hard.
>>748975779The minimap exists
>>748981513Read the post you replied to again, retard.
>>748975779>The gaming industry properly conveying scale without ASG
>>748980948I bet you leave DOF on instead of instantly turning that garbage off
>Why didn't they just render 5000 times more object and max the saturation?!Uh huh. Expert game dev over here.
>>748976662Easily, yes.
Coming soon.
>>748975442shitch can't do dlss5 yet, wait another 8 years
>>748978728yeah, the one that lieutenant guy fought in
>>748975442fucking moron, the lighting in the second image is inconsistent, anyone with half a brain can tell it's wrong
>>748981874We are doing just fine without it, you pedophile.
>>748982165Thanks for the compliment, but your cope is funny
>>748975442How did they make hyrule field look even smaller?
>>748982157You are inconsinent
>>748982385is it on life support? my condolences
>>748981698>post a game that ran at like 240p
>>748975442with their freaking AI?!?
>>748977595I wonder if it has anything to do with everyone having shitty TVs and audio equipment. Basically everyone's got a "theater setup" but it's Walmart shit water.
>>748977595>Call technology “Blu-Ray”>It adds obnoxious desaturation and blue lighting to films.BRAVO ROWLING.
>>748975442Because if you clear the fog, I guarantee that the objects in the distance will look way shittier than how it looks on the bottom pic. Nintendo has always sacrificed good draw distance. That's why they use dumb tricks like fog to hide the imperfections. They would rather have fog than reveal how ugly things look if you're more than twenty feet away from them.
>>748975442Nintendo, HIRE THIS SIR!!
>>748982554No, I was charging my Lenovo Legion Go and playing Star Fox Assault with my GameCube controller.
>>748975442Please understand... Shitch 2 can't render all that SOVL
>>748975779It doesn't look farther away though. It just looks like shit.
>>748975442I was about to say wow the ai slopped way too many details on that tree but it's actually that slopped in the game nintendo is shitting out from india.
>>748975442like DQ11? released in 2017 btw...
>>748975442top helps to hide the muddy textures and low distant LoD
>>748975442Because nu-tendo are talentless passionless driverless hacks.
>>748975779you still can see the atmospheric perspective in the bottom pic, look how blue the mountains are
>>748975442
>>748975694Then turn off your screen, close your eyes, stand up and walk away till you hit a wall and see the stars
People really want it to have no fog and look like GTA
>>748975442Has to run on the Shitch
>>748975779It doesn't work that way it looks like a tiny area with zero details
>>748975779>game devs can't do forced perspective anymorelmao
>>748977296No it doesnt you blind gachashit loving retard
>>748975779It doesn't work at all
>>748975442The one below will hurt my eyes after 20 minutes or less
>>748976180Why are they always messing up shit with bluray rereleases?
>>7489766822d sprites exist kid
>>748985163Dude you can already see everything with fog on as it's semi transparent in Zelda, while gta sa fog was fully obscuring what you will see.
>>748975442because shitch 2 cant render that far
>>748975442Fucking damn this game looks like shit compared to what some dedicarsd autists or even actual troons in a basement have been cooking up for decades now.Triple A games are such a shitshow these days, I really hope it all crashes and burns
>>748979896Why do you lie?
>>748985184>>748985796STOP REPLYING TO YOURSELF.
>>748982165>>748981874OoT remake is made with DLSS5 tho
>>748986098No it's not.
>>748975442Cause that would require more powerful hardware
>>748976180You mean the $10 DVD theatrical trilogy I got wasn't a waste compared to the Blu Ray Extended editions? (No extra content or deleted scenes are included on the DVDs, was a letdown after hoping they had that stuff since the VHS tapes obviously didn't)Also, I can confirm the left side of the image isreal on the DVD.
>>748975442computers can't render that much detail at once silly despite the hardware advancements because developers are brown and/or money hungry now
>>748975779It doesn't really work when you do it so hard that everything is affected.
>>748977296>genshin is so good now even nintendo is copying them grim
>>748987472OoT will always be better than Genshin.
>>748976180The original color grading of the right is more accurate to what was shown in theaters. In an interview Peter Jackson said he was in the room for the color grading of the 4K release to make sure it was accurate to the original. So fuck off larper.
>>748987763He has shit taste then.Author's intent doesn't exhaust the conversation about what art is ugly or not.
>respect artists vision!>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!
>>748987839The bottom pic looks a thousand times better, cope
>>748975779>The point is to make stuff look farther away than it actually isMakes sense if you're Indian.
>>748976180No one fucking cares about Lord of the Rings.
>>748975442cause when you start the n64 game and press start the map is very cloudy
>>748987472this has to be bait right? the bottom town was designed while Genshin's artists were a still taking up residence in their dad's nutsack.
>>748988057The OG castle town looks nothing like the remake
>>748975779crazy how people think that there is no depth without tons of atmospheric fog and washed out volumetric lighting
>>748988209What was the official reason for Castle Town being so underdeveloped compared to everything else in the game taht they had to fill it in with ? Couldnt they have sacrificed some of the dungeon rooms to allocate space for a proper CT back then instead of prerendered low res textures?
>>748987472'fraid so
>>748987937You have forever forfeited your right to criticize DLSS 5 and AI art in general forever.
>>748988581I never did, AI is based
>>748975442>>748975779Does pic related look worse in your opinion?
>>748988209if by nothing alike you mean "the exact same town, just in modern graphics instead of N64 graphics" then... i guess? Like the architectural style hasn't changed at all, they've just added a lot of details that weren't possible on the N64.
>>748987839>Artistic vision of the India outsourced teamNo thanks.
this is my only problem with the game did they not learn from botw and totk
>>748975442Switch 2 couldn't handle that.
>>748976702theatrical cutthere's a fan edit of the extended edition but it doesn't look 100% accurate
>>748978468Anon finds out that hier up suits and hardware limitations meddle with an artist's original vision
>>748975442Anti soul gas sucks but the bottom is more 'hire this man' nonsense.
>muh high definition graphics are more important than gameplayNever thought I'd see the day when tendies became full on snoys.
>>748989139I wasn't aware that this thread was filled with businessmen.
>>748989068This one boggles the mindNot only have people given them a truckload of negative feedback on it, but it's literally a problem that was already solved before nintendo introduced the problem to begin withSkyward Sword had a wheel and it worked perfectly fineMy vocabulary isn't big enough to express how ridiculous and laughably incompetent this is
>>748988870>completely different architecture>except same townGet your eyes checked
>>748988950>random schizo theoryPost proof or take meds.
>>748989068Most people have no issue with this kind of menu.
Why the fuck hasn't Nintendo started promoting this yet? Doesn't it release next month? What are they waiting for?
>>748989438I have never seen a person not dislike it to some degree. Putting up with a shitty feature because the game is good is not the same as not having an issue with it
>>748989068What's the problem?
>>748989572I'm afraid you have to be able to rotate the apple in your mind's eye to understand.
>>748989429>Nintendo outsourced every Zelda remake/remaster to date, but they're totally developing it in-house this time!
>>748989514Because its going to get mogged by GTA 6 and they know this. Its not even worth trying. Its a treat to the loyalists but thats about it.
>>748982818Unrelated but I am glad I can turn on monochrome mode on my TV to watch the 2013 teal release of The Terminator in B/W out of curiosity.
>>748989572It's arguably not as bad as in TotK since OoT has a lot less items but there's a ton of other ways to do it. Skyward Sword had an item wheel like that other anon mentioned for example. They could have also made it closer to the original with the 3 item slots tied to the C buttons but you could cycle through items on each button instead of only ever having access to one at a timeHaving to cycle constantly through every single item to get to the one you want is way worse than having to open the menu and putting it on a C button
Why did they put cringe anime weeb voice acting in this remake? Why didn't they just put normal voice acting in it? Nintendo can do normal voice acting as Samus has a normal non cringe anime weeb voice in Metroid Ravenous
>>748989760Ok, now post the source that Indians are making the OOT remake.
Imagine remake link being sucked up by a likelike haha
>>748989514Because Nintendo doesn't start promotion until two-to-three weeks before a game releases. We still haven't quite hit that point yet.It'll be happening relatively soon.You niggers always ask this and it's always the same fucking answer every single time.
>>748990109oh fukc my weiner...
>>748990109Why boner?
>>748981582I said what I said, bitch
>>748975442Do you not understand how draw distance or perspective works? Not even talking about gaming logic. You need to understand how reality works.
>>748987681Can't see shit captain
>>748988767Why to Switch 2 games look worse than Switch 1 games?
>>748990415That doesnt excuse it looking like shite
>>748989514It’s an expanded 1:1 remake. There’s no need to advertise the game.
>>748990443What can't you see, Hm?
>>748989335retardbro, your comparison screenshots are pointing in the complete opposite directions in town, you're looking at totally different buildings and don't even notice it.
>>748990415Fog is not caused by draw distance
>>748975442still a cluttered ugly fucking mess to look at.it needs art direction. it needs balance.
>>748988209That's because you're looking at it from the opposite direction you sillyJust turn around
>>748989068In OOT I don't have any problem with that. There's at best 15 items on that list. Totk sucks because there's 200.But still, it could have simply used a wheel and not a shitty list.
>>748976180>>748985284I don't care what anyone on /tv/ says, I still maintain that the extended edition bluray recolor was a technical mistake with the master that WB didn't want to shell out the money to fix. It makes zero sense that they would only regrade Fellowship while leaving the other two films and even the theatrical cut identical to the DVD grade and that EVERY scene would be color shifted by the exact same values instead of changing them scene by scene.>>748987763Right is not from the 4K upscale remaster that you're referring to, it's from the original bluray box set. Also the 4K remaster absolutely does not match the original version because all of the night scenes have the blue grading removed and some shots in Return have the entire sky replaced.
>>748975541>Why didn't they remove the anti-soul gas?Because they can't imagine a place that doesn't look like the smog-choked urban hellscape outside of their office window.... Or the person involved has cataracts can can't be told off, because of the Japanese culture office cult.
>>748982903For me it's not just the fog but the desaturation even on close/near objects.Like I can understand the far off mountains being dulled down in palette like the farthest reaches of the bottom pic that skews blue, but that should NOT be what's happening to Hyrule Field in the immediate mid-ground too. It makes everything look washed out like the global gamma was cranked up reducing color volume. It reminds me of the Bloom/Glow that was overdone on TPHD.
i actively despise the artist's vision and I am ever more convinced that the technical limitations of the 80-90s made the games better most of the time
>>748975442Bottom looks oversaturated to shit. I swear you faggots are blind as fuck.
>>748976180Right looks better.
>/v/ pretends to know about tech
>>748984837The issue here is you can't interact with most of the environment in DQ11 were, it's expected you are able to in OoT.So if they made as detailed as DQ11, but can't do anything with the additional stuff, people would just say it's no better than the cardboard cut out trees from Wolverine.
>>748993050It was 100% a fuck up, they didn't want to admit it. In the scenes in the Caradhras in Fellowship the snow looks green. The whole movie looks green.If I remember correctly the 2022 release fixed it.
>>748975442>for weeks cries that OoTR is sloppa>but look at this sloppa! it should be like this!
>>748988209it's honestly impressive how much character the background being an image adds to the town square, the compression and smearing makes it all very dream like
>>748988209Yeah, this was not meant to seen in HD lol. It looks like shit. The upressed models clash so bad with the prerendered assets.
>>748975442I'm so sick of impressionist slop
>>748975442Because BotW looked like the one on top.Also probablyl something to do with performance. LoD fuckery is less noticeable with smeary fog cover.
>>748975442Because retarded satanist communists are intentionally destroying all things of beauty, everywhere, in every field, in the entire world. Buildings, women, television, videogames, books, music, it must all be disgusting and wear down the soul.
I do not live in smog world.Reject digital smog world.
>>748995054That library got demolished over a decade ago, chudster.
>>748995454Okay, and? Does the entire city look like the picture now, or is it a disgusting modern hellscape full of brown people?
>>748995374>flat
>>748975442fog hides lower quality assets loaded from far away
>>748995531>Okay, and?Makes your baby tears look extra ridiculous, Pablo.
>>748975442Is there any truth to the fog being required for rendering distances?
>>748995654It's the oldest trick in the book. Look most early true 3D games and you see some variant of it.
>>748995654>requiredOf course not.
>>748995654>requiredNo. It makes absolutely no difference for performance. Fog is used exclusively for hiding a low render distance or to obscure how bad some things can look with the lower fidelity model loaded from a distance.
>>748996280>Fog is used exclusively for hiding a low render distance or to obscure how bad some things can look with the lower fidelity model loaded from a distance.And that is why the tree right next to Link in the OP is also covered up by a brown dust cloud
>>748976720no it doesnt and i will rape your mother in your sleep tonight
>>748996381That's not fog.
>>748996547Jump from a bridge you disingenuous turdstuffer
Post-Switch Nintendo is one of the worst in the entire industry for covering their games with disgusting fart clouds hanging over everything so you can't see shit more than 10 feet in front of you. Also just shit visibility in general. To this day BOTW is one of the most washed out games I've ever seen.
>>748996607>ignorant retard lashes outOkay anon. Stay retarded about things you don't understand.
>>748982709It runs on the Switch 2 at 4k 60fps. Whats your next goalpost nigger?
>>748996624>To this day BOTW is one of the most washed out games I've ever seen.Thank you. It makes SS's watercolor look seem next-gen by comparison.
>HDR monitors become mainstream>every game, movie, and TV series turn brown
>>748996991the future is gaywe need to build a time machine /v/
>>748987948>graphics are being outsourced to Indians at an increasing rate>for them, anti soul gas is everywhere, they literally have lower draw distanceIt’s starting to make sense now.
>>748996991why would HDR mean everything goes brown?
>samefagging the whole fucking SaturdayGet a life, man
