With the newest Castlevania being clearly inspired by Hollowknight and Silksong, can we all finally agree that the genre should be called Hollowlike instead of Metroidvania?Team Cherry’s masterpieces are clearly what’s inspiring everyone all over the world unlike those two unc franchiseCastlevania already gave up and Metroid is a dead franchise anyways, so I think it’s okay
I'm so sick of everything being irony pilled and dripping in dissent and hatred and "look at me how divisive I am" the only way anyone gets engagement anymore is through rage bait. It's a sickening culture we live in and one that is built to destroy the humab psyche from the inside out. People have lost all meaning and art is dead. Video games will never be the same
They should be called sotn-likes.
i think we can have subcategoriesjust like how there are clearly momodora copies
>>748976591They're all just adventure platformers.
>>748976591language is darwinistic, if hollowlike was the more useful term it would already be used that being said metroidvania was already a retarded term
>>748976591hollowlike will be the new term for not shit metroidvanias
>>748978491Metroidvania is a perfectly cromulant term for describing a series of side-scrolling platformers where you explore a wide, open world and face bosses. Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night are genre-defining examples, and Hollow Knight takes inspiration from them, as well as Dark Souls.
>>748978973Hollow Knight is just a mediocre Salt & Sanctuarylike though?
>>748976938fpbp trvke and this is why the internet is dying
>>748976591There are now games that are more like Hollow Knight than Castlevania or Metroid if you want to be nuanced.Ori, Blasphemous, and Ender Lillies are other influential ones that have had many clones in the past couple years.
>>748976591Hollow Knight is a great game, but you faggots are insufferable. No one is changing the name, fuck off and kill yourself.
Why would you create a new label? If anything people want the clones to die and leave the Steam store.
>>748976591Ravenous and Dread > Hollow Knight. and Silksong.
>>748976591In what sense is the new Castlevania similar to HK? I don't really see it.
>>748979507Someone made an Ori clone? where?
>>748979661It’s literally Silksong with a Castlevania skin, nothing like previous Igavanias
>>748981652It's an indie game made by an indie studio. thats why it looks like shit.
Reminder that "Metroidvania" was originally an insult by people who preferred the older Castlevania games to what they had become by that point. They also had RPG elements and were inspired by Zelda, not Metroid.
>>748976591I hate all these 'likes', Roguelikes, Soulslikes, 'my game is like this game' shit. Why is gaming in such a slump that they keep hitting these genre plateaus, and go on advertising their 'new' game as one that's just like an old game.
>>748976591No one cares fag
>>748982040Indie fag use these terminology for shilling purpose but now it has become a meme by pretentious retards who fight over the more influential game in the "genre" like it's a blowjob competition.
>>748976591I still don't know what was suppose to be so good about these games, they were 7/10 at best
>>748979912Eh I'm bullshitting. Prince of Persia Lost Crown and MIO have similar platforming but more combat focus.
should call it troon likes because troons go mad over it.
>>748982040Its almost as if people want more.
>>748982536Maybe (and a big maybe) they took some inspiration but calling them clones is a looooong stretch. Ori had no clones and it wasn't influential in any way but quite the opposite. Even the sequel to the original Ori game had less inspiration to itself.
>>748976591picrel is silksong but furryfurrier?Was an ok game, nothing to write home about, bit too easy
>>748976591its called SEARCH ACTION nigger
>>748982893Yeah, Ori's influence is being a great example of what not to do, the game is visual vomit where most your deaths come from not being able to tell what's actually dangerous on screen.
Can someone take a stab at defining for me what's the difference between a Hollowvania/Hollowlike & Metroidvania exactly?Because it seems like splitting hairs to the point of EDM subgenre faggotry.
>>748984876Hollowlikes are like HollowKnight who is Castlevania SotN meets Souls
>>748984876Metroidvania - a term for the game genre inspired by Super Metroid, coined when Castlevania games started being made in the style. Hollowlike - some bullshit discord forced meme from zoomer faggots who resent the giants whose shoulders they stand on. doesn't actually mean anything and isn't a valid term.
>>748984825A compromise made to give the game a unique, highly inspired, and detailed art style that pushed the boundaries of graphical limits for 2D games of the time. Yet ultimately nobody gave a shit about that, the game became associated with pixel shit and meme games for trannies to the point where memes about it became more popular than the Ori games itself. No matter where you put it. Ori games never influenced anything for better or worse.
>>748976591That is a different genre.No RPG elements means it isn't a metroidvania.hollow knight and its clones have no rpg elements, so they are not metroidvanias and just metroid-likes, its perfectly fine for the genre name of that very specific type of action adventure platformer to change.
>>748986296>that pushed the boundaries of graphical limits for 2D games of the timei really don't think adding a shit ton of bloom to a game is that impressive anon.
>>748979336if that game is so good then why didn't it get as popular
>>748976591castlemania
>>748987535it was ugly as shit
>Hollowlike>look inside>metroidvania rollslop
>>748986452what's impressive for you zoom zoom nowadays?Pixelated visual vomit grafix with unrecognizably shaped characters and procedural animation? That's sure is impressive. may you forgive my ineptitude.
>>748976938I completely agree
Years ago I would have called this word retarded but from experience there are legitimately.WAY TOO MANY FUCKING GAMES inspired by Hollow Knight
>>748987961the irony of calling someone a zoomer while defending Ori is deafening anon. you're literally a a baby being entertained by flashing bright lights with no proper art direction. it doesn't push ANY artistic boundaries other than how ugly you can make a game. you can pick pretty much any random SNES game and it'll look way better despite the far more primitive hardware.
>>748988351You're either a zoomer twisted by meme propaganda or a boomer whos too stuck into the past. Either way there's a reason people you call normies get high budget videogames while people like you only get indie trash for kiddies. Because either way youre all still retards.
>>748984876how old is this image, i cant see Angelcore in here
>>748989478>AngelcoreI can't even tell if>[Noun] / Core>[Verb] / Coreis a real thing anymore without googling it first (and Google front page say it is here).
>>748988118>WAY TOO MANY FUCKING GAMES inspired by Hollow KnightBecause indie devs can't create anything original, all they do is copy what's popular and run it to the ground.
>>748992623They're not even really 'inspired' by Hollow Knight. They're inspired by Hollow Knight's inspiration, Zelda II.
>>748976591yes the genre is hollowlike
