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>update elden ring
>everything is worse now
>check patch notes
>my favorite weapons, skills, spells, etc. were neutered because of pvp slop
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How old is James Rolfe again?
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>joked that slop of the erdtree made the game pay to win
>fromsoft releases another slop dlc that is unironically pay to win because of the weapons it adds
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>>748976606
>FINALLY after many years of begging they make a separate scaling for PvP
>Fuck off to the next game after doign the bare minimum and leave the game's multiplayer to die to gank shitshows
Huh
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>>748976803
Uhhhhh doob? Red=BAD. You're not the color i don't like, are you chud?
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>>748976606
But isn't PvP the actual core appeal of Souls games? The whole series is designed gameplay first as well "risk vs reward"-style weapons, armors, etc.
Playing against bots like bosses are just practice for the true challenge, which is besting a human. Consider that the best PvP souls games got higher score than DeS and DS1, and was loved by everyone who were interested in the series and souls game design, outside of few loud contrarians. PvP also has in general been the true test of player's skills, because it requires you to test your gameplay skills, actual game sense, mechanical knowledge, and mindgames compared to a static "else if" code and input reading.

There is also a reason why the non-pvp co-op mod was bashed by the old fans in ER, and only liked by secondaries who came for the memes and because ER won awards.
You should genuinely consider if you actually like ER or if you just like casual hack and slash by abusing broken mechanics. If you don't participate in PvP, then you don't get the actual appeal of souls games.
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>>748976684
46. He's actually a Gen X'er, not a millennial
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>>748976803
based
total invader death

Invading hasn't worked properly since DS2. But you can only blame yourself.
Nobody wants to be invaded by some lowlife in minmaxed gear who spent the last 300 hours harassing people who just wanna play singleplayer.
If invasions were just people with equal gear and skill going against each other, but you specifically chose to invade so you can have the upper hand.
So From took that from you with forced 2v1s. Which is unironically more fair than it was back in DS1.

You can even see it in the webm. Build optimized to maximize physical defense, full stacks of consumables lined up. The only thing missing is the stack of divine blessings they always have. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if his inventory was filled with copies of every weapon fully upgraded.

To normal ER players you are nothing but a nuisance. A thorn in the eye of wanting to play coop with your pals.
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>>748978082
>you dont actually like Zelda games unless you play them to buy items from shops
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>>748978082
>>748978564
The reddit spacing be go brazy
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>>748978564
>Invaders at their absolute lowest point
>Still cause enough seethe and butthurt to warrant walls of text
lmao
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>>748978082
>If you don't participate in PvP, then you don't get the actual appeal of souls games.
Sekiro didn't even have multiplayer you retard. I really hope this is bait
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>>748979136
Its not bait. You should never question why a tranny is retarded, they wouldn't be where they are if they could achieve normalcy
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>>748979136
I don't play Souls games because I don't like PvP. My two friends who are huge FromSoftware fans since DeS talk a lot to me about the series and how important PvP has been since implementation. Its the core appeal, singleplayer is a tutorial with an interesting story but PvP is the main selling point. Just like with military shooters. I have tried both the first DS tutorial as well as DS2 PvP and didn't like either. But I do talk with the hardcore fans that have been there since day-1.
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>>748978564
>who just wanna play singleplayer
Can't they just play singleplayer then? As far as I'm aware all the souls games have a way to avoid invasions if you don't want them.
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>>748976606
elden ring has separate pvp balance
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James Rolfe groomed me when I was 16
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I have frompoop fatigue. Can't wait for cuckblood to bite the dust.
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>>748976606
Elden ring actually balances weapons differently for PvP.

They did make the game worse with the AI update in patch 1.04 because shitter retards were complaining and bandai makes fromsoft cater to the shitters despite everyone pretending they are hardcore games
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>>748979849
No, he needs his max level boyfriend to cheese the game for him
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>>748979849
A lot of em do. You also lose every other multiplayer feature including getting summoned, messages and in older games shit like Vagrants or World Tendency.
Why do you think seamless coop was so popular? Part of it was allowing people to play with friends without having to get rid of some noisy pest every couple minutes.
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>NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOO THIS WEAPON NOW DEALS 1 LESS DMG NOOOOOOOO I WILL HAVE TO USE ONE OF THE 10 TRILLION OTHER WEAPONS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES!!!
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>>748976684
Like 50
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>>748979654
>But I do talk with the hardcore fans
Found your problem. This may shock you, but not everyone that played at release was a hardcore fan. There were a lot of people that loved Dark Souls PvP, the Invasion mechanic and such. There were even more people that didn't like being invaded. There are people that did in fact just enjoy the game for its gameplay amd customization, and just wanted a co-op PvE experience with their friends, hence why there was and still is a popular mod that does exactly that. The "hardcore fans" that say PvP was the life and soul are right. The casual fans that say PvP was irrelevant to the fun are also right. Because "fun" is an arbitrary value that will shift from individual to individual, and people find different things fun.
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>>748979654
>PvP is the main selling point
Miyazaki you're a fucking hack and will always be a stupid slantoid. Kill yourself
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>>748980323
My friend talked about co-op in souls games in-length. But to summarize, it destroys the difficulty. Fail state becomes non-existent when the tutorial parts are a cakewalk and real challenge, PvP, becomes unbalanced and unfair. You never learn to play, which ruins your PvP experience completely. Seamless co-op took rest of the challenge and you just get owned when you go to play PvP.
Co-op is slowly killing the series and FromSoftware still isn't acknowledging the PvP scene or hosting tourneys.

>>748980571
You should still respect the hardcore fans the most. Consider /v/ for example. Even if there are oldfags who doesn't care about politics, it doesn't mean they are right. Even if they would be majority, and fencesitters should be driven away.
Newfags who participate in political discourse are actual anons compared to oldfags who wants to ignore that stuff.
Just like souls games weren't first about PvP, /v/ wasn't first about fighting against leftists. But DS1 introduced it proper like GG introduced politics, and DS2 made it the core identity and mainstay like 2016 did with politics. Just like souls games are losing PvP, we have too many centrists and fencesitters on /v/. Hell, some new people in souls community wants less PvP like some people here are leftists.
You should protect the core identity of a game or board. Majority can be wrong afterall. I know I'm personally wrong for not liking politics and because I hold but too radical views, but I don't get mad when someone posts tranny wojaks because its core board culture. It doesn't matter if that person started posting year ago or yesterday, they are more of a real /v/irgin than me. Even if he couldn't read when I got my first PC.
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>>748981435
>You should protect the core identity of a game or board.
You're making mistakes again. The PvPers and PvEers are both the core identity of the game. You want to respect only one of those groups, and so you contradict yourself. You don't respect a different core because it violates your persinal sensibilities. Which doesn't really make sense considering you claimed you didn't play Dark Souls because you don't like PvP, so it's a bit odd how you want to dismiss the PvE core in favor od the PvP core. Both people were present at release. Both people loved the game. Both people participated in the experience of the game they wanted. Both still praise and love Dark Souls. Both still play Dark Souls years later.
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>>748981780
I just respect those who have more experience in the subject than me. While I'm not fan of PvP, the DS2 PvP was better than DS1 singleplayer when I played it with a correct build.
I think the main issue you seem to miss is that souls games shouldn't be about the singleplayer experience as much it should be about PvP.
PvE is dated gameplay in vidya, the biggest and most successful games are about PvP. PvE and co-op especially ruins the core-gameplay.
ER had potential to become e-sports game but PvE crowd ruined it.
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>>748976606
Why do you lie? Pvp balance does not affect pve.
Just say you're a shitter that looked at a wiki and did the entire game with moonveil and rivers of blood.
My colossal hammer has received nothing but buffs since release. Faster, more poise damage, more block, more hyper armor... Feels good to be a STR chad
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>>748982612
Imagine being transgender. Oh wait, thats every day for you
>trannycucky cries on reddit about a weapon
>other pedos join in
>fromslop nerfs said weapon
Ahahahahahaha YWNBAWOTY
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>>748976724
>fromsoft releases another slop dlc that is unironically pay to win because of the weapons it adds
The only one that's actually worth a shit is the Mirrah Greatsword, which is neat but it's not that different from the heavy thrusting sword and scythe that have a similar "lmao i-frames" weapon art.
Honestly the biggest change with the new DLC is that parrying with things that aren't a medium shield + carian retaliation is actually viable now (something they should have done long ago, but better late than never). I just finished the DLC with a caster off hand Misericorde+parry main hand and honest it was fun, probably the most fun I've had playing a caster in Elden Ring.
It's a shame Radahn 2 still has a reputation among normalfags as being a "poorly designed boss", in his current state he's honestly one of the most fun bosses in the entire game and aside from overtuned damage and maybe particle effect spam (I don't think it's that much of an issue though) I can't think of anything bad about the way he's designed. In a DLC filled with actual shit tier bosses like Lion and the Bayle, Radahn feels great to beat.

>>748978564
Hosts always have the advantage and if you're dying to invaders it's because you deserved to die.
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>>748981435
>all this text when you just could have come out as the homosexual you are
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>>748979654
Your friends are retards that have become far too obsessed with what is ultimately a side mode.
Make no mistake, Souls games are RPGs first and foremost. The invasion mechanic is there to add a sense of community and replay value, but ultimately it's just meant to compliment the main draw of dungeon delving and boss encounters.
PvP is always going to be secondary to PvE in Souls titles, and that's how it should be. These games would be worse off if they tried to appeal to "muh honor duel" fags, i.e. a niche 1% of the 1% of the playerbase.
PvE is the most important element, followed by asynchronous PvP (i.e. the invasion meta), followed finally by duels and 1v1 combat.
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>>748983261
Pcr is not a good boss
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>>748983623
>Pcr is not a good boss
...because?
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>>748980005
>James Rolfe groomed me when I was 16
pretty old for a dog
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>Monster Madness uses AI slop
yep, it's over



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