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https://play.runescape.com/4
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>>748980830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJpEESS6gdI
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no one cares about runescape outside of autists who click rocks for 500 hours
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>>748980830
It wont be out until 2030 at the earliest and thats if it doesn't get scrapped (it will)
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What happened to 2 and 3?
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>>748980830
>>748980865
>damn people really didn't like Runescape 3 and just want to play Old School RS
>let's double down on all the features they didn't like :)
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>>748980830
Wasnt 3 absolute ass and killed over half the userbase
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>>748980830
oh lol so they are just moving all the mxt stuff to runescape 4 lmao
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>Make big hubbub about removing a lot of pay to win shit from runescape 3
Let's see how much is in 4.
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>>748981107
2 is osrs, 3 is regular runescape
1 was the original build that was just some british dudes ripping off ultima online
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>>748981107
>old school runescape
>runescape
>dragonwilds
>4
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>>748981107
Runescape 2 is actually OSRS
Runescape 3 was a colossal failure since day 1 and has been kept alive by overpriced cosmetics and redditors trying too hard to be different. Jagex has been pulling their hair out for years trying to get the majority of their playerbase off of OSRS and into RS3 with no luck. They want what FFXIV has, which is players paying a monthly sub and buying expensive hats.
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>>748981205
1 was the only one I played and had the most soul
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>>748980830
i dont think jagex can juggle 3 mmos, especially not a modern mmo
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>>748980830
>It's a new RuneScape MMORPG, built in Unreal Engine
into the trash it goes
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>>748981415
>he thinks rs3 is surviving
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Nice. I actually called this in the vg thread hours before it happened. RS3 is just so fucking bloated and outdated that even people who like RS3 know it's fucking garbage at this point. Rs4 should theoretically clear. If it doesn't, we can expect RS3 to be phased out and resources poured into OSRS. OSRS is the backup plan.

If everything goes to shit we still have 2004scape.
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>>748981415
rs3 has been on life support for years
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>>748980830
Imagine the AI bots. Runescape is dead, its just bots now
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>>748981516
retard
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>>748981550
most of the bots got banned
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>>748981559
It being independent is garbage. Everyone needs a fresh start so it can be a level playing field. I don't care about all the kids who mtx'd their way to the top in RS3. Garbage game for whales and it NEEDS to be phased out. I'm not being performative when I say I truly do not know how people play RS3. I literally call it Temuscape because it is the most bland and uninspired shit ever. If it wasn't called RuneScape you'd never know it was.
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So fuck everybody who supported RS3 then? These assholes were BEGGING players to try it and give it an honest shot and now they're gonna abandon it while that dogshit OSRS is allowed to exist? Fuck you, Jagex. Fuck. You.
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>>748981559
>listening to what companies say
LMAO
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>>748981550
Bots have surprisingly gotten heavily cracked down on in osrs
Every resource that's been in the dumps for money has gone up. Bot makers are being targeted and shut down.
It's impossible to ever stop botting in anything ever (companies that make more money in a month than Jagex has made in its lifetime can't stop botting in their services) but they're doing a pretty good job
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dragonwilds was the engine tech demo, with runescape 4 they will have it on consoles too

In theory this should be much better than rs3 but we know how jagex is
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>>748981686
IDK why I said it being independent is garbage.

I meant to say it's a GOOD thing. RS4 SHOULD be independent. FUCK RS3.

But also I have realistic expectations and know Jagex is a dogshit developer. OSRS is probably going to be their only good game until the end of time because Dragonwilds is shit too.

Jagex cannot make games they can only mimic the Gowers.
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>>748980830
Dead on arrival
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>>748981802
ambitious to assume it will ever even arrive
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>>748981620
Doubt. With frontier models and models like Jev that are made for automation, theres no way they could catch anyone by behavior. Sure if they play 72 hours straight its suspicious but anything else would end up banning real players too
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>>748980830
if they're going to make it like dragonwilds they could actually take the new world playerbase
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Can we just be honest? It won't be good. Nu-jagex is an abomination and we must go back. They even ruined OSRS.

Remember, MMOs are enshittified intentionally. It's a design tactic to bring in more money.
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>this is what they needed to increase the sub price 200% for
It still looks like a game made in the early 2000s. What the fuck are they doing?
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>the year is 2030
>the top 5 mmos are world of warcraft ff14 runescape maplestory and guild wars 3
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>>748981127
>osrs = osrs
>RS3 = WoW
>RS4 = continuation of dragonwilds but MMO
>you = retard
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>>748981945
FFXIV has been on its way out since 2021. Square is going to replace it with something else.
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>>748980830
They'll have to pull Kieren, Ash and Arcane from OSRS if they want this to work. Jagex is hard-carried by a few guys that understand the MMO genre. If they're going to pull from RS3 and DW it's gg.
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>>748982159
2 more weeks
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>>748980830
>built in Unreal Engine
Concord: MMO edition
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>>748981835
DoA if it does
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Everything looks so dogshit in Unreal, why is that
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>>748981945
Cursed genre, what did you expect?
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>>748982159
FF11 is still online. Even if FF14 goes down to like 1000 monthly players it'll stay up just off of subscription money cause Squeenix will never remove the sub fee from anything.
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>>748980830
Holy shit they're finally going to get rid of that retarded laggy tile based gameplay??
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What combat system will they go for, the one in dragon wilds?
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>>748982320
because it's a dogshit engine with dogshit shading and lighting
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>>748982397
it's using unreal 5
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>>748981205
retarded zoomshit. og rs mogged every other and it's not even a discussion
also when playing rs in those days everyone was White
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Hey my WoW Forever friend just sent me the Runescape 4 trailer and said "RIP Forever".
How? You literally see nothing but pre rendered movie scenes. What is RS4 about? I thought people love OSRS
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Nobody even likes OSRS these days. They're just performative and pretend they do. RS2 game design is utter dogshit and the game is so devoid of dopamine hits the only way to make it fun is to restrict yourself even more ie ironman or UIM.
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>>748982429
What does the engine have to do with the gameplay
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>>748982320
The entire thing is built around the results being noisy and then using a denoise filter to smooth it out.
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>>748982408
Probably. Might be nice to add an action bar for pc players instead of the spinning wheel shit for prayers/spells ect. Let the console plebs keep the csgo wheel shit.
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how do you even make an unreal engine MMO? unreal is notoriously bad for multiplayer
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>>748982557
Aion 2
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>>748980830
way too childish to be interesting
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>>748980865
That city does NOT look like Varrock at all.
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Pride parades, now with DLSS 5
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>>748981415
RS3 will go maintenance mode when RS4 releases, and RS4 is at least 4 years away so plenty of time.
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>>748982320
PBR rendering was a mistake.
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>>748982609
Yeah cause that's a city in Ashenfall from Dragonwilds
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>>748982609
it isn't, the website said it's taking place on the same place dragonwilds does
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>>748980830
huh?
there was a RuneScape 2? and a RuneScape 3?
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Theyre releasing fresh servers for rs3 too, you can only start a new character on it and all microtransaction slop is removed

Imo that means rs3 is going to be end of serviced but the game will remain online just without any new content

Thats means they will have a skeleton crew on rs3 a small crew on osrs and the main dev team on rs3
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>>748982801
main dev team on rs4*
>>748982764
rs classic is 1, oldschool runescape is rs2 and rs3 is the current modern game
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what's new
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>>748980830
>unreal engine mmo
Dropped
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>>748982764
Officially "no" but RS2 is when the game when fully 2D, back in 2004 or so. RS3 is when they went to "HD" graphics in 2007.
Officially jagex calls RS1 "classic" (these servers are now dead), RS2 "OSRS", and RS3 just "runescape".
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I'm so fucking sick of UEslop I wish someone could burn and rape everyone at epic, literal industry killer
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>>748982901
Just buy a new video card retard
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anyone who cares about runescape at all doesn't fucking care about rs3 or rs4

osrs is the only thing that even remotely resembles gower runescape even if it's completely different

please just give us proper preservation servers like 2004scape and shit. or hey, don't. i don't mind them being free.
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runescape is gonna be the first mmo to try out blockchain gaming, that's how much of a cattle farm it is of people being content just spending all day clicking rocks in it. I mean it's basically the equivalent of crypto mining already,. except you receive nothing instead. the mining cycles in might as well reflect the ones on your gpu
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so is it gonna look like shit from a butthole like dragonwilds or are they gonna hire a team for visuals
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>>748982960
japanese soldier still shilling for blockchain
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>>748982883
unreal engine 200+ yearly membership with micro transactions
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>>748982946
You can just make your own server if you are that autistic. It's all already preserved, just fucking download it.
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>>748983008
dragonwilds takes its ugly artstyle from rs3 so rs4 is probably going to look the same, I guess somebody at jagex actually thinks it looks good
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>>748982946
enjoy your bull semon drinking quests made by a troon
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>>748981860
LLMs aren't capable of innovation. They will write bot code based on existing bots. On the other hand Jagex can utilize LLMs to automate checking for suspicious behavior better.
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i look forward to it just because i want to hear different versions of osrs songs

the ones in RS3 don't do it for me
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>>748982946
what's funny about that is that Gower tried his hand at a MMORPG on Steam called brighter shores and it's boring as fuck
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>>748983146
well identified. rs3 music IS soulless and is something i've pointed out many times. 'noooo bro rs3 is heckin great in all aspects! amazing music!'

i fucking DESPISE rs3. i'm not being performative. it's the most soulless temuscape bullshit ever. and it's to be expected, isn't it? rs3 was passed around by many chinese companies. FUCK RS3
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>>748983252
>noooo bro rs3 is heckin great in all aspects
many people are saying this
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>>748980830
Who cares, they're finally adding Menaphos. Ancient egyptian kino is back on the menu.
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>hmm what is this?
>"NO treasure hunter! Please clap!"
what is treasure hunter and why is it good they removed it? I thought you get like a scroll and have to solve clues or something to get items? is it something else? haven't played rs3 really only osrs a long time ago
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>>748980830
On one hand it's good to see developers still trying to make MMOs, on the other I have no faith in Jagex to make anything good.
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>she
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>>748983429
MTX
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>>748983429
treasure hunter was what they called their lootbox microtransaction nightmare that would give you items and xp
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>>748983398
That's not in the game already? I swear I thought I already went there for some quests
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>>748983248
Wasn't the main issue that all progression resets whenever you enter a new zone? If so, that's completely retarded game design.
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>MMO that plays like Dragonwilds
Could be cool
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i see nothing wrong with any of these updates. seems like a lot of people missed the saying of don't put all your eggs in one basket. you were meant to be playing for fun, not ego. if spending money is what you consider fun just go play a gacha they're great at that.
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>>748983606
For ToA they added a quest that basically lines it up, where the king (who is clearly possessed by the gata bitch) says he will make preparations to let you in.
It was the last black spot on the map, but they 'filled it in' with placeholder art for now just for people who sailed around it.
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>>748982123
I'd say Rs3 = Rs3. This Rs4 feels more like wow from what they've written. But who knows.
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>>748983937
>"RS4 will take place years after the events of Dragonwilds and the destruction of the Dragon Queen Kuldra. Time has passed, the world has moved on, and Ashenfall has changed with it. But Ashenfall is only the beginning."
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I love RuneScape, but RS3 has consistently been a slap in the face to any self-respecting human being. I quit the game in 2020 and I am grateful to myself for it, I really am.

I may check out RuneScape 4. I love RS - but you can only play the same shit so much.
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>>748981945
The year will be 2030 and 95% of the MMO playerbase will be the same people who played MMOs in 2010
Given that you need major autism to even play this genre to begin with it makes sense for the same people to still be playing the same games
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>>748981735
Imagine being an rs3 player lmofa
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>>748980830
jagex has announced new games several times total and all have been canceled soon after or have been total disaster
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>>748980830
>unrealslop
Shan't
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>>748984206
They removed microtransacruons, dailyfaggotry, pride events, etc
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>>748984312
Thats true but a major difference this time around is that they want to have the community have input on game development from start to bottom

this worked very well for osrs so there is hope rs4 will be good
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>>748984206
Why not just play OSRS then
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>>748984418
Because it fucking sucks and has been enshittified just like RS3.

I've said it before but even without MTX RS3 is not a good game.
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>>748984394
true and i hope they make a great game. runescape has really good lore and worldbuilding
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>>748980958
I just get Claude to play it for me
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>>748984394
>this worked very well for osrs
Osrs development is atrocious because they have to cater to whiny redditors

None of the updates can be truly gamechanging because they have to pass a poll and the community is too afraid of change

It took ove lr 10 YEARS to make runecrafting not an awful skill, because people kept whining that they suffered while grinding it therefore everyone else should to
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>>748980958
i think you can bot safely with a high level account. i did and never got banned
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>>748984890
its people like you that lead to the casual destruction of rs3
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>>748981127
A new game is the only rational option.
Both OSRS and RS3 are at end of life, and Jagex have no idea how to breathe 20 more years into them.
A brand new game would fix a lot of issues, even though i doubt nu-jagex have the talent.
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>>748984890
we've all seen what happens when jagex just does whatever they want
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>>748980865
Unreal engine 5
Combat from Runescape dragonwilds.
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>>748985227
>>748985227

Eoc was rushed and Mtx is forced by shareholders and not actual developers
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>>748982435
Runescape was Ultima Online for babbies, just like Tibia was Ultima Online for third worlders.
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>>748985325
rs3 has plenty of terrible ideas beyond just eoc and mtx. war's retreat for example
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I've been playing close to a dozen of MMOs for the past twenty years but if I had to say one thing about the OSRS and RS3 community/playerbase it's that they are the genuinely dumbest people I have ever come across in all of the MMOs I've played
Like with the various iterations of WoW you can usually tell when you're just talking with some brute or nerd, but on RS you some times wonder if the players are genuinely unable to parse information.

Maybe it's due to the admittedly rather autistic and repetitive nature of the game, but some times it truly does feel like you're in some kind of asylum for people with arrested development
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>>748985465
Never played rs3. Whats that and why is it bad?
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>>748985510
I feel this exact way about wow players
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>>748981559
lol no way this doesn't get axed once the CEO inevitably changes
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>>748980830
There's more than 1 Runescape????
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Worst thing about OSRS is that we should have gotten pre-EOC 2012scape instead.
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Does Runescape even have the playerbase for another version of it, I wonder? And what was the point of Dragonwilds?

>no leagues announced
>not even a deadmeme season
Oh well, maybe in 2028 I'll play again
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>>748985704
HDscape was unironic peak.
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JED
SANDERSON


ANDREW
LAKEMAN
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>>748982186
>including Arcane in that list
I guess this bait was too subtle for neo-/v/
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>>748985570
it's an instanced hub area that lets you heal, bank, buff, and teleport to any boss. it's bad because removing any need for all those players to actually inhabit the world makes everything feel empty and dead
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>>748985731
>And what was the point of Dragonwilds?
apparently a beta-test for a full MMO. i never thought Jagex would greenlight another, but apparently North is actually useful.
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>>748985302
That genuinely looks terrible. OSRS actually has the right idea in regards to combat. Basic attacks should make up 90% of the damage dealt to enemies with the occasional special attack used to interact with mechanics, buff yourself, or debuff the enemy. After Draken, I'm actually looking forward to the new OSRS raid.
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>>748982186
arcane can't even design a drop table
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>>748985704
Even if I think the very brief period in between the return of free trade and the implementation of EOC was the pinnacle of RS I don't think it would've been as popular since it was too recent
At the time the general sentiment was that people wanted pre-HD RS which coincided with the save from 2007. Ironically OSRS was failing hard in the first couple of months because after people had gotten over the initial wave of nostalgia they realised the endgame would be doing shit like barrows runs or wilderness ditch pvp which the players already had outgrown at the time. OSRS didn't take off until they started developing original content for it
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>>748982892
This has to be bait.
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>>748986084
It is not.
You evne had to make separate accounts for the past versions, with their own membership costs.
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>>748985818
North went on a podcast and said he had to beg for investors to inject cash into jagex for the next 5 years. https://youtu.be/_BgoOc7yKLs?t=489
I took a wild shot that they were making another runescape game, but i was thinking a singleplayer rpg or something not a whole fucking mmorpg.
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>>748985302
>>748985909
Jagex sucks at doing action combat. At this point, you can't even blame the engine
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>>748986459
>not a whole fucking mmorpg.
it was the only real choice. Once an MMO starts talking about "rejuvenation" it's code for maintenance mode.
Major highlights for RS3 this year being "we're trying to unfuck the game" is grim.
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>>748982946
>osrs is the only thing that even remotely resembles gower runescape
"Gower runescape" is pre-eoc runescape
the one that osrs troons hate because curses are too broken and there was too much power creep
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>>748982186
Tbh it feels like OSRS is a decent game by complete accident. The Gower brothers just threw a bunch of random shit into the game based on what they thought would be cool, then a bunch of other developers just threw in a bunch of other random shit over the years, then it ended up creating this complex dependency network of quests, skills and items that made progression feel rewarding. Then after they added a bunch of bad shit to the game to the point of no repair, they miraculously had a back-up of the game that happened to be from a point in time just before a lot of the rot started to set in. And when OSRS first started off, it only had a very small team supporting it and a lot of the earlier new content had plenty of problems too.
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>>748982892
Runescape 3 was post-EoC
That period between OSRS backup and EoC is alter-RS2
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>>748980984
Dragonwilds is the testbed for RS4 and it's really fucking good.
>>748981168
yes and that's why they're making 4
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to be honest i see all of this as a win. i love runescape and we are fucking back.

love me osrs.

love me rs3.

love me rs4.

now pls give us legacy servers for every game version from 2001-2012



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