>this was the peak of WoWhow do people still play it all these years later?
>posts the worst expansion
>>748983663It was the peak of phasing, zones literally designed to be flown over, LFG instance teleports, AoEing down entire rooms and mario party bullshit, good boy tokens to buy welfare gear, paid "heirloom" gear, class homogenization, mana hardly even being a mechanic anymore, and actual vehicle sections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhckIs the WotLK cinematic the best cinematic that Blizzard ever made?
>>748983663>No king rules forever my son... but first I have to ask, why? If Frostmorne didn't steal your soul and you've had it this whole time and weren't enthralled to the Lich King, why did you join the Scourge and destroy your own kingdom?>Well, father, it was because... uh... I like power?>My son, you were the crown prince of the greatest kingdom in the world and I was an old man in the late autumn of his life. If you wanted power, you had merely to wait a few years to become the greatest king in the world>Yes, father, but you see my plan was uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>748983663>how do people still play it all these years later?No-lives who treat it as a addiction.>>748983705What are you going to say?Base game, TBC or any post-WoTLK expansion?Sorry bro, but the overwhelming majority knows this was retail WoW at its best.
>>748983663I never played Wrath until 2022 because I quit WoW in 2007/early 2008. They turned the game into a theme park so all these normies began playing around then because before in vanilla most struggled to even get max level.
>more arena slop ranked pvp (no world pvp)>copy and pasted nax from vanilla>raid modes >group finders>achievementsAll this shit was against the spirit fo the game.
>>748983663WoW peaked in 2004
>>748985471>achievementsHonestly, this is the worst thing added to gaming possibly ever aside from pay-to-win mobile shit.It task-ifies the game turning it into fucking homework. Homework that you can show-off to other people that you just spent the last 80 hours killing 4000 wumpusses in video game land. Yes, I can and do ignore them, but they're intrusive and many people take them seriously. They're a cheap ploy to pump up numbers using players who otherwise wouldn't keep playing.
>>748984330>Anakin Skywalker with LESS backstory, motivation, and development is considered to be one of the best written protagonists in vidyaGenuinely embarrassing. Why do people praise Chris Metzen again? He stole all of the lore and storylines from various tabletop sources, and he proved incapable to write a single memorable (or even semi-original) character.Yet /v/ sucks this talentless nigger's dick. Why?
>>748985764The worst part of about achievements is you can't just do a raid and farm gear. Your raids are full of people constantly wanting to get achievements in addition to all that. It was bad enough with people wanting to gear up their alts and split raids... but then you add cheevo chasing and it becomes a job.
I held on for a long time because no other game fulfills the death knight fantasy to which I have attached my identity.
>>748983663https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exI1X6cfh6AI miss it lads
>>748986108What fantasy? It's fucking stupid. A knight is a warrior who rides a horse. You do none of that in WoW. You don't even do chivalric things. You cast spells like a warlock and wear plate armor. It's so fucking stupid.
>>748985132NTA but TBC was best expansion. And Wrath sucked. Hard.
>>748986108NWN2 had the Blackguard class which was a bit like a death knight
>>748986272>TBCBest joke I heard. Maybe if you like how it was the beginning of total lore demolishing.
>>748986350No one gave a shit about the lore after WoW vanilla destroyed all the lore.
>>748983663>No vrykul raid>No drakkari raid>No underground nerubian zone+proper Anub'arak raidWrath has so much wasted potential. Reusing Naxx and TotC never should have been a thing. Having a re-rezzed Anub'arak and KT as a boss in ICC would have been fine though.
>>748986413Vanilla was still serviceable.TBC however was the first step to totally demolishing it.WoTLK simply slowed the inevitable.Cataclysm was it kicking into overdrive.Every expansion after Cataclysm was all of it getting WORSE.
>>748986578>Vanilla was still serviceable.In the lore department? No it wasn't. It destroyed all the previously established lore.
>>748986810Still better than anything later.
>>748985834uh who the fuck ever says anything in wow is the best written? arthas is cool and thats all that matters, nerdnigger>OH MY GOD THE BACKSTORY AND THE FORESHADOWING AND THE ADJECTIVES AND PACING AND DESCRIPTIVE PARAGRAPHS AND THE REFERENCESgo jack off in a dusty tome you colossal faggot nigger retard
>>748986850Faggot, no one cares about the lore.TBC had the best actual content.
>>748986989>Calls faggot>Defends TBCSpotted the faggot.You really like it that they made the Legion into aliens?
>>748983663The peak was pre-AQ vanilla. No, not "classic" or private servers running 1.12 but not adding AQ or naxx yet, i mean the original patches when current
>>748986863>school shooters are cool
>>748987072What did I just say faggot.NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE LORE.
>>748983663Peak story. Peak gameplay was tbc. Peak community was vanilla.
>>748987151I do. And many more.A whole lot even.
>>748987215Yes people that never bothered playing WC 1, 2 or 3.
>>748987251Played all three.
>>748987215yeah and youre a faggot as well as a nobodystill confused?
>>748983663>tbc and wotlk utterly raped the charactershate wotlk and tbc glazersit was never good
>>748987305Says the one with hollow insults.
>>748983663content was dog shit until the final tier>muh ulduarenjoy your tanks bro
The Frozen Throne >I would do literally anything to save my people. For Silvermoon!The Burning Crusade >fuck my people, fuck Silvermoon, pass me some of that demonic crack cocaineIllidan was right. I was not prepared.
>>748986108>>748986194Ascensions CoA WoW had the knight of xoroth which was kind of like a death knight, It was a lot of fun. Basically a plate necromancer, I played the tank spec in which you summon imps that attack and cast spells and you can sacrifice them to sustain your life. Had a summonable hellsteed and mounted combat and a mounted jump that literally covered a football field in one spacebar press. Ability bloat was crazy too had like 20 abilities to manage. Some other class had mounted combat too. With the tank spec, I could solo face tank half a zone and be fine. Other classes were even better. Balance was obviously retarded but they quickly shat it out because they knew blizz was coming. Was a really fun few months until blizzkikes killed it so they can get all the shekels for their inferior classic+.
>>748983663WotLK was the first time the game was actually good, but no, MoP was the peak.
>>748987770Not to mention, at the beginning of Wrath the only raid content was Naxx. Over and over for like 6 months or however long it was before they released something else.
>>748988136and then they released toc, an entire dungeon (with dog shit horse fight) and raid taking place in a single arena
>>748988136>ulduar was meant to be first patch but wasn't finished in time, end up reusing naxx>nerubian and vrykul raids never happen, end up mashing some of those ideas into a TOGC which is just one room and 5 bosses>icc felt completely underbaked other than the LK fight, which actually felt like an appropriate final boss>ton of other cut features and zones that i can't remember anymorewhat a mess wotlk wasi have fond memories of it but i can't really tell you whycan't be entirely ulduar
>>748988123this gay shit was more retail coded than fucking midnight lmao
>>748984097ARTHASTHE BLOOD OF YOUR FATHER OF YOUR PEOPLEDEMANDS JUSTICE
>>748985834>considered to be one of the best written protagonists in vidyaLiterally nobody has ever said this about Arthas, even once.The reason Arthas gets discussed so much is because it is funny to point out how badly the WC3/WoW writers flubbed making Arthas a tragic, evil character; how every WoW expansion ever-more-exhaustively details how and why the Undead aren't culpable for their actions during their times as magically-bound slaves, while ignoring how it all applies to Arthas himself.That and discussing how the writers get super upset when people point this out and crash out in twitter posts and youtube videos.
>>748983663how can I play this
>>748989298Death Knight Arthas can't be culpable, given his status as magical zombie slave, but WotLK itself made the questionable decision to say that Lich King Arthas reclaimed his soul and beat up the nice guy parts of his soul.
>>748988601it was quite a step up in term of questing/story telling compared to bc that felt very similar to classic. also great zones
>>748983663Now that I think about this is the same as all Western IPs and projects: let's compare WoW to Marvel movies:They both had a rather niche start that was very captivating and rather telling, self-contained stories between like, 2000 and, like, 2010 - the stories all very rather small in scale but focused and made for a 95% male audience. Then both Marvel and WoW get into the omega mainstream - WoW in like 2007 and Marvel in like the 2016-2020 . The omega mainstream is the phase where the past single stories are merged into a greater narrative and still done for males.Then comes the female phase - the grave.... noone knows the names of the Marvel movies after 2020 and no one knows the names of the WoW expansions after Legion. There are distant stories and mentions of Black Panther or the Jailer, but these are niche, very niche stories and they may as well not exist. Somehow the studios make money, but noone even knows of the product existing - people laugh at their friends if they play WoW Forever or read western commics - people are assumed to be mentally retarded if they even know how to buy a WoW token or find a western commic seeling place on the map.
>>748991003>marvel shitI ain't reading that.
This was the start of the end. Everything people hate about retail now found its foundations in Wotlk. Late TBC is probably the "best" WoW retail was at.
>>748991052but its the same - aren't people who read western commics mentally insane? do you not bully them? do you not think they lack life and are too autistic to be let to go outside? When you look at them, the school bully in you just wants to punch them. Same shit with Star Wars fans and WoW fans - deep down you know that the source is soo bad, that you have to punch the people who consume it.
>>748991220>aren't people who read western commics mentally insane?No? People haven't read western comics in decades. The comic industry is dead.
>>748991269real men have also not played WoW in decades. funny enough. I mean last time for me was 2009
