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>Earlier this year, an Argentinian software developer who goes by DarioSamo online released Banjo: Recompiled, an unofficial PC port made possible by the work of fan developers, who successfully reverse-engineered the original N64 game into readable code in 2024.
>These reverse-engineering projects – known as decompilations – are technically legal because the developers involved do not use any leaked content or copyrighted assets, and require players to provide their own legally-sourced ROMs for them to work.
>Because it’s a native PC port, Banjo: Recompiled supports high framerates above 120 fps, ultrawide and widescreen modes, a dual-analog camera, instant load times, and support for user-created mods, such as those that upgrade visuals or add new content to the game.
>Now a new Banjo-Tooie recomp has emerged, and DarioSamo claims it was made by using some of the tools his team made and applying AI to them to result in a quick port.
>In a statement on X, DarioSamo has continued to criticise AI recomps such as the new Banjo-Tooie one, and says the fact that AI tools use framework and renderers created by DarioSamo’s team and others is an insult to their own hard work.
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>>748986874
>“Just a warning for everyone, since Video Game Slopterica keeps being the most irresponsible YouTube channel to exist,” his statement claimed. “The Banjo-Tooie Recomp is NOT associated with us. It is entirely AI-generated. Both Zelda: Recompiled and Banjo: Recompiled have very clear No AI stances.
>“We have not, do not and will not use AI to ever work on these projects. We’ve already made it public for quite a long time we’re interested in doing Tooie at some point. The game requires a lot of love and care to do a proper port.
>“We’re not interested in engaging a race to the bottom and will take the time that is necessary to deliver a polished version. Using the extensive amount of human research we’ve done for the framework, the renderer and the games and throwing AI at it is very disrespectful.”
>“I do not care to engage in debates about AI and have largely abandoned this platform due to the mass psychosis ongoing here,” he wrote. “All the evidence I need is that vibecoders keep copying our efforts and completely fail to reach the same level of quality.”
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/banjo-kazooie-pc-port-decomp-developer-says-ai-generated-pc-ports-are-a-race-to-the-bottom-and-disrespectful/
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>>748986874
>Under GPLv3
tough shit loser
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>>748986874
I mean lol just use an emulator
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>>748986874
>spend years of your life learning a skill
>a machine can do it better than you for much faster and cheaper
Yeah I'd be pretty emotional too but it's illogical
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You forgot to put (SAD NEWS).
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>>748986874
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Hm...
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>>748986996
Honestly this whole AIpocalypse really is just due to a bunch of retarded devs hosting their projects with open source licenses on servers hosting by BIG FUCKING CONGLOMERATES that think they'd just let them store petabytes of data out of the kindness of their hearts.
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>>748986874
>>748986937
About what I expected. A lot of these models still copy answers and other work wholesale instead of doing anything on their own.
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in the end, i'm not paying for the patreon of someone that does, or does not, use ai
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where is the mhgu recomp?
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>this is disrespectful to game modders and developers!
A bonus but not the point.
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>>748986874
Don't care I'll play free games and enjoy them, I don't give a shit if a tranny69, jeet96, or Aryanchud1488 made the recomp/decomp with or without AI
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>>748986874
>I-it’s le disrespectful
Get fucked loser
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>>748986874
>NOOOO you can't use the tools I put online with an open license to make your own decomp!!!!!
tough luck boludo lmao
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>>748986874
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>>748987102
Tooie is notoriously atrocious on an emu. You can have a NASA-tier super computer and be using something independent of pj64 like mupen etc and it'll still chug like a snail crawling through molasses. So people are kinda hoping an actual proper recomp comes along because it might actually make tooie more bearable (no pun intended) if it actually runs smooth as god intended.
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>>748987351
punjabi bros are going to fucking rapes you sir
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>>748987351
It's either AI advertising or intentionally being annoying for impending AI regulation. I'm leaning towards the latter with how intentionally annoying the pro-AI fags are
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>>748986996
>no attribution clause
wtf
kind of a big oversight
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>we were going to make our own decomp at some point in the future, all you had to do was support our patreon!!!!!!
>now I'm le depressed, progress in the other decomp is suspended until further notice (please keep the patreon donos going though)
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>>748986874
have none of these retards heard of emulation
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>My patreon and Kofi are gonna dry up because AI can use the same tools we did and do it faster

Every single one of these cunts is crying because they're no longer in the spotlight. And no, this faggot didn't make any "tools and programs" to decomp the game. It's all generic ass reverse engineering which you can fucking Google and find on YouTube.

Total death to these faggots. True hobbyists who do this shit for the love of the game don't care how something gets done. It's only attention seeking faggots who want some internet fame on a niche community who cry about it
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>>748986874
Man it must suck to be someone working on a decomp without AI just as all this starts popping off.
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>>748987778
>chugs like a snail crawling through molasses
think that's accurate to real hardware at least.
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>>748988203
>>748988034
It makes you wonder who's paying all the anti AI shills on this board. Probably a bunch of discord troons who are pissed the patreon bucks are going away.
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>>0748988203
>\n\n
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>>748986874
It's probably low quality and I wouldn't touch the AI one, but it seems pretty retarded to completely ape an existing game only to cry thief when someone uses your tools to do the same exact thing
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>>748987778
How did Nintendo got it to run 100% flawlessly on the Switch 2?
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>>748988249
on n64 proper, some places like Terrydactl Land did chug a bit but it was never as bad as it is on emu. But a recomp could outright eliminate that and surpass what the n64 could do. Might actually make the game tolerable kek.
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>>748986874
AI killing open source is what everyone expected back then.
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>>748986874
i don't mind
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>>748988442
This is the first I've heard of it running flawlessly on a switch 2 though I don't know anything about that console, so forgive my ignorance on it. If that's actually true I wouldn't know what sorcery they managed to pull off since I don't know the backend hardware or software or if they're using a ROM or specific settings, etc.
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>>748988442
>Flawless
30 FPS with hitching is not "flawless" lmao. You tendies are something else.
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>>748988643
>>748988614

Works on my machine.
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>>748986874
I love AI. We get to play oldie-goldies, trannys seething is just icing on the cake.
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>>748988493
More like open source suicide, nothing stops the people doing "respectful" decomps to include AI in their workload and actually increase their productivity besides this performative grandstanding they go into anytime AI is mentioned.
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>>748987778
Where did this meme come from? I've been emulating Tooie just fine for 20 years.
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>>748987851
They are indian so they could just naturally be that annoying and braindead
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dont care about your online drama faggotry whatever lets me play the game on my pc thank you
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>>748986874
>DarioSamo
how am I the first person to point this out? should have been fpbp
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Firewall india
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>>748988827
this
before AI there was literally absolutely zero way to play old games
now I can play Pokemon Yellow in 3D to post tiktoks about for a few minutes
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>>748988940
qrd?
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>>748988998
it’s funny how shitter is one of the only sites you can do this by using an extension
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>>748986937
Video Game slopterica btfo'd kek. That's what he gets for padding his shitty videos with "sound track samples". Also he made me think the ninja gaiden 2 decomp was out, but it was a sloppa ai recomp that micro stutters like crazy. WEAK.
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>>748988643
Isn't it an N64 game? No such thing as 60fps.
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>>748989307
>latinx pissing and crying that someone stole his future patreonbux
>"lmao he btfo'd them!"
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99% of pushed code today is made with. So 200k per year software engineers use it, but retards think not using AI in their decomp is a good idea (meaning they sit and piece together machine instructions manually). Lmao.
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>>748989559
>meaning they sit and piece together machine instructions manually
some of the most soulless boring work and they take great pride in it
insanity
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>>748989559
This
Actual programmers, coders, and software engineers have been using AI the past few years to massively increase their workflow. If something messes up they know how to quickly fix it.
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>>748989375
>Isn't it an N64 game? No such thing as 60fps.
That's why recomps are great.
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>release shit under the GNU public license
>noooo you can't use my work because I don't like/agree with you
IF YOU CARE ABOUT WHO USES YOUR SHIT DO NOT USE A PUBLIC LICENSE YOU MOUTH BREATHING RETARDS
THEY DIDN'T "STEAL" SHIT, YOU LITERALLY MADE IT FREE AS IN FREEDOM
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>>748989907
>recomps are great because you can turn on soap opera effect to interpolate 30fps animations up to 240 fps
Maybe if you're braindead.
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>>748990035
is that why recomps look so weird in motion
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>>748986874
All I fucking want from those retards is the OOT recomp and RT64 to be finished.
At this point, AI is going to steal their thunder and they'll live out the rest of their days in disgrace while I play the damn game.
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>>748987319
So is fan art. Irrelevant, you only care if your overpriced YCHs get compromised.
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>>748990206
Wait, there's still no OoT recomp? I thought with the communities' autism we'd have several versions of that by now.
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>>748989025
>before AI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
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>>748990279
no
thats old money ai
god emprah saved videogames, i could never play mario before SI came and made it playable
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>>748986874
Where's the gameplay videos of this?
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>>748990252
the main dude's father died and he's been on hiatus for the past 8 months
that coupled with this AI stuff makes me feel like it's fucking over, someone using AI will trigger these fairies
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>>748990514
>he thinks anyone actually plays this slop
bait or saar? call it
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>>748986874
He's definitely right that it's a race to the bottom with every retard trying to farm engagement and advertising bux
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>>748990814
Neither.
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>>748990987
second one, got it
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>>748989475
I don't work on videogames in any capacity, I just hate that faggots channel because his videos are low quality. You're a faggot too for hitching your identity to ai in a political capacity. I denounce the talmud. Do you??
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>>748986874
i don't care
may the best free product win
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>>748990206
>>748990648
You know what, I have Claude Max and I'll see if I can vibecode that out
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>>748991047
I'm asking for gameplay videos on the video game board you moron.
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>>748991242
>still thinking anyone plays these vibecoded ports shat out over a dull weekend
you keep digging that grave
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>>748991202
don't do it man you'll just break them and it'll take even longer for them to finish. Dario is a peak fucking luddite.
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>>748987778
I just emu the xbox port
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>>748986996
People still don't license there shit under AGPL + Niggerthen complain. Its 100% your fault if you don't.
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>>748991301
nonny thats the joke......
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>>748987319
Nah
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I actually follow this guy and WiseGuy because I'm waiting for OOT and the Tooie Recomps. Does he even have a patreon or are people just assuming that he does? Because I've never seen him mention it
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>>748987319
But according to pirates, copying something isn't theft because the original is still there
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>>748986874
>People that don't work vs. AI shit that doesn't work
Whoever wins, we lose
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I thought these recomps were unreadable by humans which makes debugging impossible
How do they know it stole code from them?
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>>748992026
The framework and renderers are readable compared to everything else
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>>748992026
AI code is 10x more readable than human code because it understands the problem space rather than just copying+pasting from stackoverflow/groomcord like the T-slurs that were making these recomps a year ago. It's the opposite of unreadable.
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GET FUCKED LOSERS! It isn't even your fucking game anyways. Eat. Fucking. Shit!
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>>748992334
>rather than just copying+pasting from stackoverflow/groomcord
It literally just copies
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>>748992026
copy and paste code
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I exclusively care about the result. If you used AI or traditional waterfall project management or communism or wrote the entire thing without a compiler is irrelevant to me. The results speak for themselves.
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>>748993665
In the world of extreme capitalism, results are everything, nobody cares what you did to get the result. I hate it, but it's the world we live in. "Blame the game, not the playa cuh"
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>>748991493
The corporations & the feds won't like that idea.
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>>748991493
Tracing and such has always been considered one of the worst things an artist could do.
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>>748986874
Nintendo is finished
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>>748988170
Everybody's heard of fucking emulation. Just because you've discovered it recently and pirating doesn't make you part of some super l33t club. The reason people don't want to bother with it is because N64 emulation is notoriously shit but sloppers like you are gonna slop so whatever.
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>I only care about the final product
>But I will never actually check the final product, I will just assume it runs well
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>>748993862
Exactly. I have no hatred for AI, just as I have no hatred for the anti-AI people. Whoever makes the better result is what matters to me.
I don't know why people, on /v/ of all places, seem to up in arms over the tools used or not used to get us to the result as long as the result is good.
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>>748994195
Yeah the irony coming from the reactionary performative retards ITT.
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>>748994325
>as long as the result is good.
The result is not good
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>>748994375
Okay.
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so what’s low quality about the AI recomps?
why is a human dev’s recomp better quality?
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>>748991493
Really art should have never been brought online. And I use art in the broadest sense. If you wanted to pirate a game you should have to physically copy it from someone else's copy AND all games should be forced to release everything on disc. Digital shit was a mistake. We're only in this predicament because we allowed shit to be brought online. The internet should have been used to communicating and that's it.

If the internet would have stayed more barebones there would have been no social media, no smartphones, arcades would still exist, and AI almost certainly wouldn't be where it is today without the world's wealth of knowledge at it's disposal. Humanity would have been better off.
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>>748994619
A fucking LOT of shit takes in this post.
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>>748994534
AI dumps never fully work while the few human ones do.
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>>748994375
keep telling yourself that
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No one fucking cares about how, why or with how much passion a decomp was made. The only genuine metric it has is objective quality of the decompilation it's just tacking on rudimentary negative labels on a product that is already dogshit as is in an attempt to bring morals where none apply.
AI decomps suck ass because they're just dogshit unaudited code, and so do shittily made human ones. Why does no one judge them for that metric that they consistently fail alone and has to bring in some strawman bullshit about how the code was made with which tools? I dont even care about any of this shit, but seeing all of you faggots on the internet bark at the right tree for the wrong reasons fucking makes my blood boil.
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Guys, I don't know about this construction tech. All these niggers building mud huts. I thought we might get something actually good from this. But here we are, day 5, and more mud huts and uncomfortable chairs and ugly tables. Hammers, nails, lathes, saws, all completely useless as we don't have anything groundbreaking after 5 days.

So you can saw a log. For what purpose? These nails can stick boards together, but all I'm seeing are a bunch of abomination creations. Unlimited resources given to everybody and we only have shit after a couple of days, so clearly there's nothing that can be made good with 3, 6, or 9 months of work. Also the saws a little dull, and the nails aren't perfectly straight, and these are things that will never been corrected in the future. I say we go back to living under rocks. More soul.
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>>748994997
it's almost as if both parts are true or something
it's almost as if plagiarism is frowned upon or something
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>>748986874
If AI recomps are such a fucking issue, then make a non AI recomp.
Oh you're not gonna do that? Then fuck off
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>>748994534
>so what’s low quality about the AI recomps?
They're often filled with a bunch of small glitches that aren't caught by the "developer" because they're rushing through it. Stuttering, audio missing in certain places, minor graphical glitches that aren't present in emulation, etc.
Now, when these bugs are found by the public they are seldom fixed because AI sloppers seldom stick to one game to make it as good as it can be. They usually pump out a playable product, bask in the attention from that one youtube channel, then move on to slopping up another game.
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>>748994904
Keep lying to yourself
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>>748994997
Retarded posters like this are the type to complain about why everything is so soulless now btw
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>>748986937
That little faggot esoterica should go back to getting off to his trans wife's farts instead of shitting up the scene by hyping up slop ports every 5 minutes. Glad someone's calling him out.
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>>748991457
It's part of the AI shill.
>The only way someone could be against AI is because it's affecting them financially
>Quality, what's that? I don't play games I just had my gay boyfriend claude shit this out because I want likes and updoots.
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>human recomps
>gets ruined by tranny drama

>AI recomps
>gets ruined by tranny drama
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>>748986874
I dont think people have really considered how bad this could be
Just imagine the damage you could do if you can so easily decompile software
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>>748987319
Thankfully you don't own your games, so it isn't.
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>>748986937
Who the hell cares
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>>748986874
>take years for you to do something
>AI can do it in a few minutes

Kek, that sure is disrespectful alright.
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>>748986874
sucks to suck loser. it's not like you can monetize the decomp anyway, so what are you mad about? that they stole your potential internet clout?
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>>748994325
>as long as the result is good
That's the problem. Jeets are making this about patreon bux or some faggotry when it's solely about quality. I don't care that claude took 2 days to shit it out. It runs worse than an emulator, has fake frame generation instead of a true uncapped framerate and full of stutters and other fuck ups the prompter doesn't know how to fix since he knows he said "do it and don't make mistakes." Why is wanting high quality seen as a negative by jeets?
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>>748986874
>Argentinian
>complaining about stealing
lol LMAO
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>>748995813
Lots of people with 0 recomps under their belt shit-talking AI recomps
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>>748996007
damn how terible....
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Backlog looking pretty good.
Can't beat good old emulator.
>But mods and QoL
tranny shit, just like AI ruining the author's vision.
It's amazing how people went from shitting on MUGEN, the predecessor of slop everywhere all at once to absolutely praising something that even lower effort than that.
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>>748994997
It's called pattern recognition.
>Hey notice how these recomps shat out in mere days are all broken, have shit performance and full of bugs?
>Yeah
>Weird how the one constant is claude being used exclusively
>UGH NO YOU LUDDITE IT'S NOT CLAUDE'S FAULT HOW DARE YOU SAAR
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>>748986874
>>748986937
>Th-the AI STOLE my CODE!!!
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>>748996354
>broken and full of bugs
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>>748986874
Get ready for the new normal, luddie
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>>748995341
What fucking "Soul" there is in raw code that gets obliterated after compilation? The fucking "UGHUUU I HATE THIS MATH PROBLEM SO MUCH FUCK FUCK FUCK" comments that no one will ever read?
Its main point is to fucking work and be workable on, and AI fucking fails on both miserably. This moral grandstanding of "Uhhhh i wrote dogshit code by hand instead of prompting dogshit code" is fucking retarded when the code in question is still dogshit and there are actual glaring issues in the AI code that could be focused and shat on instead of this pedantic faggotry about usage morals.

>>748995078
>Plagiarism
Its a reverse engineer of a game that was someone's work and property. Every recomp's goal is to copy the original code in function as 1:1 as possible.
It's plagiaristic in its fucking nature. Glass houses dammit.
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>Every single piece of software that society relies on to function can now be decompiled and attacked faster than any human beings could possibly protect them
>hee hee epic banjo kazooie slop remake!!! xd
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>>748987172
>can do it better than you
You’ll notice none of the ai bros say this work will be done better, just faster
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>>748987476
>pic unrelated
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>>748996608
Not an AIbro but if you aren't going to provide me a nonAI Blue Dragon decomp, my options are pretty severely limited....
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Before we even start to discuss the AI quality, we need to talk about even doing the correct fucking task.
Several of these "recomps" are shit emulators wrote by AI. literally just a N64 or mega drive or whatever emulator that use static recompilation as an excuse to call it a decomp.
A real decomp is either something done with pic related to turn it into a readable C code that can be altered, or a new program made to work with the assets of the game.
And a emulator is neither.
That chaotix knuckle shit is an emulator and nothing else.
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>>748986937
>vibecoders keep copying our efforts and completely fail to reach the same level of quality
And that's ultimately going to destroy video games as a hobby.
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>>748996750
It's an Xbox 360 emulator, and probably a bad one, just checked.
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>>748996882
Eh, it's taking xbox360 games from "Barely playable" to "fully playable"
>But it's not 100% accurate
Sure, but it's fully playable in a way that you won't instantly see how what it's doing on the backend is wrong
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>>748997010
>probably a bad one
Its heaps better than fucking Xenia(the defacto 360 emulator)
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>>748987889
Not an oversight. It's intentional. There are alternative pre-written licenses.
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>AI generated tweet
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>ask for gameplay videos
>"You're must be joking! You're Indian!"
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>>748988442
1) It's not 100% flawless but it's certainly leaps ahead of the shit we've been stuck with. The fact that it actually runs DK64 with proper timings (to the point that many of the real hardware skips and glitches replicated accurately) is its own miracle.
2) Have you not seen the slow drip feed of N64 games being added? Normal emulator development is making one thing that's supposed to work on everything, Nintendo is instead making extreme changes for every game added to ensure they all run properly (to a point), with or without enhancing things on a per-game basis.
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>>748997104
Oversight to not use one of those licenses instead. Hindsight is 20/20, though, I suppose.
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>>748986874
well where the fuck is the "official" tooie recomp
there has been 0 news and updates for tooie
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>>748998335
>leaps ahead of what we've been stuck with
If it was 2012 I might agree. As it stands, Mupen and parallel are still more accurate than what the switch/2 are doing
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>open source
>nooo not like this
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>>748986874
democracy...
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>>748998572
Manifest
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>>748994195
The problem with the final product is that it doesn't exist for 99% of the AI shit that's been posted on /v/ this week. All of those mashups of minecraft, mario, spider-man, etc. saying you can "play them in the browser" weren't real, at most you had the visual assets of one game layered on top of a snapshot of an area from another game also the browser thing is a massive red flag, don't click on any of those because there's a chance they're using the internet handshake to scrape your PC's files to sell to a data broker.
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>>748996408
So basically, we can expect to see AI become the death of open source as a concept soon.
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>>748988421
muh artisanal hand crafted.. port...
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I'm currently playing the tooie recomp and I just unlocked glitter gulch mine
Ii think it runs ok for an alpha I've had 0 crashes
Pic related
did not know she had jiggle physics
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>>748998689
Blame trannyism and not AI. You'd see the exact same thing if some savant came in, improved all these projects but slip the word nigger in the code
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>>748998683
Oh no they have my public useragent that every website gets automatically
I hope they don't tell the jeet advertising companies that I live somewhere near alabama
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Let's Go recomp but back end replaced with FRLG
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>>748998892
Even then I don't see the point. The art-style is still fucking ugly
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>>748998683
brother you're giving yourself AIDS and deluding yourself, not all the mods you saw were like that and more and more mods will just be properly ported code.

stop, before you get creepy.
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Everything should be open source! ...except for my stuff.
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>>748988305
Nobody is paying them. These losers literally have nothing in their life going on and they were filling it with making randomizers for other trannies.

They're mad they can't gatekeep their niche games anymore so they troll Reddit and 4chsn seething. They also keep sending death threats to the VGE guy.

>>748989065
Dario and wise guy are two of the biggest faggots in retro dev. They are both behind n64 recomp and while it's a great idea and cool demo, it is buggy as shit. They're all mad that people have to use AI to compensate for their tool basically only being built for 4 games.
They go around bitching about people in the most inane ways.
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>>748986937
>I do not care to engage in debates about AI

Probably because he says shit that will be retarded in a few years. Also I checked on this guys twitter for years and kept seeing videos of raytraced N64 games. Did that shit ever get released?
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Nothing they say will stop the future.
The cope from these fools is beyond hilarious.
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AI is literally trans genocide
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>>748986937
>>748987504
>>748989307
>>748995512
>>748996983
Why are you anti-AI trannies even on this board? Shouldn't you be on reddit? You have the same takes as they do.
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>>748996608
It is better though, it gets even better as newer models arrive
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>>748987851
>>748988905
lmao I hate you brown luddites so fucking much
you're going to spend the rest of your lives seething as AI gets into EVERYTHING
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>>748986874
> THEY STOLE MY WORK WAAAAA

nigger both of you niggers are STEALING from Rare so sTFU
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>>748986874
Oh no. Not the opinion of this literally who loser. Pack it up guys he says ai recomps are disrespectful. Wouldn't want to disappoint this Argentinean nobody.
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>>748993862
>extreme capitalism
literal retarded
we dont have capitalism, we have extreme government intervention
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>>748994375
>The result is not good
lol
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>>748986874
>Somebody took this work I released for free and iterated on it, then also released their version for free
>This makes me mad
I do not understand the complaint.
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>>748999927
Why does it run so much slower than the original?
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>>748991429
You've been bitching longer and harder than the SJW movement has even existed.
Protestants are poison.
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>DarioSamo
Based, he also helped in the development of Unleashed Recompiled
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>>749000124
if you had a brain you would see the snes 2 ships went off the hanger while the decomp 3 did
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>>748999601
90% of them have no upgrades. An emulator looks better than most of them.
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The steam engine is slop, people will always prefer the more artisanal Horsedrawn Carriage. Frankly, it's insulting that the average pleb thinks what he does is real transport. Has nobody given any consideration to my job?
t. the honourable Coachman
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>>748986874
Don't care still playing ai recomps, decomps and mods.
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>>749000162
It's not stealing. It's the equivalent of transcribing music by ear into sheet music.
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>>749001749
Okay, but did you ask a trans person if they were okay with it before transcribing the music? Seems like kind of a big deal.
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>>748998689
Or just the advent of a new license
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>>748998756
those crazy brits giving so many characters massive tits, i miss that time.
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>>749002205
>Vibe License
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>make code OPEN source
>uhh, you can't take from my OPEN source code, that's stealing
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>>749002974
vibe CHECK license
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>>748986874
Not their game, not their "work," fuck 'em.
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>>748986874
There is no honor among thieves.
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>>748990035
>animations
retard alert
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>>748999653
im indian btw
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>>749000601
i can't sneed.
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>>748999494
this but with indians instead.
>>748999436
india superpower 2030.
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>>749003904
>>749003989
Thread needs to end here
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So is a proper Banjo-Tooie port being developed, or is AI all we've got?
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>>748986937
>Slopterica
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>>748987319
as soon as "artists" stop making woke shit then sure
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>>749000149
we will never stop till every leftist is erased from existence and all their effects have been REVERSED.
And I mean replaced with our ideology.
We don't want to just erase all leftist effects in our games, we want them replaced with our politics.
I want every pride flag replaced with confederate, crusades, and nazi flags.
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>>748989375
>Isn't it an N64 game? No such thing as 60fps.
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>>748986874
Neither game is on decomp.dev
Idk why since I've played Banjo decompiled
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>>748998756
Which recomp? I've found two but neither work
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>>748996408
Pretty funny too considering the only reason he's famous is stealing old developers code.
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>>748986874
You know multiple big modders have poisoned their own mods out of spite because claud bros are literally removing the in built mod drm from their patreon slop. Biggest meltdowns of the year folks.
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>>748999653
>brown luddites
How can you even say this when the majority AI crowd has been shown to be majority indian.
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>>748995132
> They're often filled with a bunch of small glitches that aren't caught by the "developer"
He asked AI is worse, this sentence implies that human made is bug free which is LOL LMAO
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>>748987504
That was always the first rule of any programmer. Never reinvent the wheel unless you absolutely have to.
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>>748986874
Pretty sure all the tech giants got there by shit underhanded tactics and nobody says anything about them. The only reason people had a problem with bill gates is that he fucked an 18 year old and got AIDS from it
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>>748986874
Open source is going to die, thank you ai!
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I think the funniest hypocrisy are pro-ai faggots claiming everyone who hates it is a liberal tranny when being pro-ai is heretical ,degenerate, and a poison to the soul
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>>748999653
Let the luddites seethe with their troon neovagina on max dilation, the decomps/recomps + mod scene is already getting raped on full blast by ai kino and now they are resorting to destroying their own work KEK.
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>>749011736
t. liberal tranny bootlicking satanic popes
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>>748987319
>only massive companies who own a ton of intellectual property should be able to train AI
I wish people were smart enough to realize that this is a corpo bootlicker argument.
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>>749011756
Kill yourself, ai chuds will be be the first to get the firing squad when shit hits the fan.
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>>748986874
From what I can tell. These new AI models can circumvent and walls you place up so it's either don't upload the code publicly or don't make it at all anymore.
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>>749011779
you're a heathen against God and the very principles of the nation you reside in and you will burn with the rest of them
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>>748988203
>>748988034
Why are you fags making shit up? There is no patreon involved and he's still making a proper Tooie recomp. This guy also worked on Zelda64Recompiled. He's fucking based. You're allowed to be pissed that a bunch of talentless jeets are shitting all over your hobby.
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>>749011979
>homo gets replaced by jeets making recomp/decomps faster and better than him in under a day
I dunno, seems like you had no value anyway
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>>749011927
wait a minute, wasn't vidya already satanic..mmm...
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>>749011927
yikes
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>>748996585
Nah you'd need to figure out how to crack cryptographic keys among other things for that decompiled work to do shit that matters, and AIs no better at that than a brute force algorithm. Security through obscurity's always been a big "setting yourself up for failure" methodology, otherwise the major use of open source software would have fucked things up a long time ago.
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Where are the DS game recomps/decomps
I want to play games with touch screen macros, higher rendering resolution and increased view ports
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>>748987778
>and it'll still chug like a snail crawling through molasses
Thats accurate to the original hardware
back in the day N64 emulators didn't give a shit about accurate timings so you had games running at 60fps when they couldn't even hit 10 on original hardware but some games required proper timings or they'll shit the bed so you have to suffer through the slideshow framerates of late N64 games if you want to emulate them without bugs and freezing
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>>748986937
>Video Game Slopterica
Little decomp energy.
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>>748990206
At least there's some signs of life.
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>>749012463
Some guy did prime hunters with pc controls
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>>749013305
I had hoped it would lead to more DS recomps but alas
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>>748986874
>piratefaggot who's stealing some developer's work talks about disrespect from someone else stealing their stolen work
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>>749002205
How would this be enforceable?
Code laundering is already a reality. You can prime a model to modify the code just enough to make it impossible to trace back to the original source.
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>>748998689
>AI become the death of open source as a concept soon.
>t. doesnt know why open source exists
AI doomniggers are so funny
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I just want a Banjo Kazooie and Tooie combo randomizer, like what we have for OoT and MM.
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>>748999041
Holy FUCK I want you brown niggers off my site.
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>>749014209
>unironic schizo making himself madder for no reason
lmao
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>>749014334
post hand or fuck off
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>>748988914
So project 64?
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Can't wait for autistic retards fighting over being on trying to be the dominant decomp game by AI
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Here's the good stuff. Avoid slopcomp

Twilight Princess (Great): https://github.com/TwilitRealm/dusklight
Banjo 1 (Perf/Great): https://github.com/BanjoRecomp/BanjoRecomp | https://github.com/HarbourMasters/Lighthouse
Mario Kart 64 (Perf): https://github.com/HarbourMasters/SpaghettiKart
Mario 64 (Perf/Almost): https://sm64pc.info/sm64pcbuilder2/ | https://github.com/HarbourMasters/Ghostship
Duke Nukem ZH (Great): https://github.com/sonicdcer/DNZHRecomp
Extreme-G (V.Good): https://gitlab.com/sonicdcer/ExtremeGRecomp/-/releases/
Zelda OoT (Almost): https://github.com/HarbourMasters/Shipwright
Zelda Majora (Perf): https://github.com/2ship2harkinian/2ship2harkinian
Paper Mario (Great): https://github.com/HarbourMasters/PaperBoat
Star Fox 64 (Perf): https://github.com/HarbourMasters/Starship
Donkey Kong 64 (Perf): https://github.com/Rainchus/Donkey-Kong-64-Recompiled/releases
Jak 1-3 (1 Perf, 2/3 Almost): https://opengoal.dev/
Mario Strikers (Great): https://github.com/new-coke/strikers
Animal Crossing GC (Almost): https://github.com/flyngmt/ACGC-PC-Port
Perfect Dark (Perf): https://github.com/perfect-dark-pc-port/perfect_dark
Bomberman Hero & 64 (Perf): https://github.com/RevoSucks/BMHeroRecomp | https://github.com/RevoSucks/BM64Recomp
Rocket (Good): https://github.com/ThatGuyMcd/Rocket-R
Sonic Unleashed (Perf): https://github.com/hedge-dev/UnleashedRecomp
Link's Awakening (Fanmade): https://archive.org/details/links-awakening-dx-hd-v-1.7.0-windows-direct-x.-7z + https://gitlab.com/bighead.0/ladxhd_updated
Snowboard Kids 2 (Perf): https://github.com/cdlewis/snowboardkids2-recomp
Star Fox Adv (Great): https://foxhollow.dev/
Chameleon Twist (Great): https://github.com/Rainchus/ChameleonTwist1-JP-Recomp
Quest 64 (Abandoned): https://github.com/Rainchus/Quest64-Recomp
Blue Dragon (Great): https://github.com/zolaware/reblue
Dinosaur Planet (Great): https://github.com/DinosaurPlanetRecomp
Gears of War 2 (Good): https://www.moddb.com/mods/gears-of-war-2-hollow
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>>749011789
This is the thing. AI is totally theft under a capitalist model where its profits are private, but also I will use it because no matter what I or anyone else says, the corpos will be using it. These retards will never actually protest their government or economic system though, they go for the easy target of indies or modders putting shit out for free which ironically only benefits big corporations who are functionally immune to cancellation campaigns
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>>749015935
>All shit games
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>>749015935
You're missing https://github.com/Zelda64Recomp/Zelda64Recomp for Zelda Majora. (Personally I think it does the Gyro aim on steam deck better and the mods for it are better than 2ship)
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>>749016698
for me it's the analog camera movement
amazing port, that one
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>>748994534
>so what’s low quality about the AI recomps?
It's not the AI specifically. It's a flood of minimum effort minimum quality recomps spammed for clout or for resume filler or begging for money. These tend to be so poorly made that the people creating them can't even work on them at all.

See this: >>748987351

In general, if it's not doing anything better than the emulator, it's suspect.
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>>748986937
Using Ai is troon behavior.
You are using an external thing to pretend to be something you're not. Literally the same. Irrefutable
These creatures will never be real coders
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>>748997036
You must have a shit computer.

You understand that xenia does JIT compilation, and the only thing a lot of these projects do is precompile?

If it's what you need to do to get this to run, then you do it. Just consider it to be disposable.

I think the bigger problem is that Xenia is kind of ass, and could seriously use more talent or another approach.
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>>749017028
>Using Ai is troon behavior.
Not jeets?
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>>748999927
The great issue with all the PC ports is that they're promptly abandoned, no rom hack support ever implemented. Gen1recomp appears to be somewhat surviving, recently added Platinum support, but https://github.com/rh-hideout/pokeemerald-expansion#:~:text=About%20pokeemerald%2Dexpansion
https://whackahack.com/foro/threads/17-08-2026-pokemon-azul-agua-beta-1-3-multilingual-disponible.67917/
NO rom hacks.
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>>748999293
>They are both behind n64 recomp and while it's a great idea and cool demo, it is buggy as shit
The Dario and Wiseguy recomps (BK and MM) work flawlessly wtf are you talking about?
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>>748991493
You weren't supposed to say that...
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>>748987102
>this retarded shit
>every thread
slow down is literally baked into some older games, why would you want a native pc exe for every game you play on pc?
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>>749000529
>bait
it's always been three. fox is the third man out of four
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>>748987476
You're not wrong
Might see a world where ai remains absolutely shit at certain areas where there's spines and a lack of data to harvest
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>>748998689
open source is already rotten
open source was made for a small number of smart white coders/developers, now it's infested with industry plants in admin positions of projects and witchhunt obsessed trannies
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>>748990206
>>749012659
I don't get it, what's the point of this when SoH exists
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>>748986874
I played a bit of the Kazooie port and it was at least better than emulating. Not sure how much slop code they have in it but it wasn't apparent to me.

Anyway this shit will end in new games going only streaming.
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>>749019581
For me at least, SoH is pretty limited in terms of modding. Like the MM Recomp has programmable mods that allow for crazy shit like 7k map that shows your exact location, SuperMan 64 mask, a chain chomp tied to your leg, ect. Also as I've mentioned in >>749016698 SoH doesn't setup gyro in a way that's preferable on Steam Deck and it's also fucked on the steam controller which the recomp supports out of the box.
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>>748990206
I need this and OoT and MM to be combined into one PC port, the way the OoTMM combo rando is stitched together.
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>>748986874
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>>748986874
>make decomp
>people only care about it because the IP you stole resonates with them
>NOOOO DONT STEAL OUR WORK
IROOOONIIIIC
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>>748986996
>>748991385
How licensing under a new one stop anything?
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>>748986874
banjo was never good
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>>749008706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8YyPxochRI
I didn't like GX on release because it wasn't as grungy as X
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>>749008706
also smash but for nutendies smash started at ultimate lmao
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>>748986937
browns cloutchasers on suicide watch
>race to the bottom
definitely the most accurate phrase to describe this recomp flood
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>>748988838
>nothing stops the people doing "respectful" decomps to include AI in their workload
Integrity?
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>>748996424
Yes. Try looking at the issues tab on the github for any given slop recomp.
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>>748986874
>These reverse-engineering projects – known as decompilations – are technically legal because the developers involved do not use any leaked content or copyrighted assets, and require players to provide their own legally-sourced ROMs for them to work.
How the fuck does that make any sense, nobody does this. And how wouldn't the names, characters and music/sounds not be copyrighted?
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>>749019581
SoH fucking sucks.
Interface sucks, the options are plentiful but miss basic things like downsampling that I really prefer having.

I also would like a Super Mario 64 recomp, I dunno why no one's gotten around to that one yet.
That being the first of these PC ports is clearly the most outdated -- modding is a massive hassle and options are limited and the interfaces annoying.
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>>748994997
AI retards will slit your throat whenever you criticize the slop recomps though for being low quality.
Being made with AI instantly gives them a human meat shield of Indians who will jump in the way of any criticism on the project.
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>>749010890
https://github.com/some-scurvy-dog/banjo-tooie-scurvy-dog-port/releases/tag/v0.1.0-alpha.3
this
it could be your rom
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>>749023635
IP shouldn't exist in the first place, so even if some bureaucrat decides it's not legal it'd still be a good thing to decompile them.
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PC peasants, who are starved for games, are now chimping out, stealing stolen old games from each other and are having a civil war amongst themselves. This is hilarious to watch. PC has become a wasteland of shit.
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>>749024248
Same. There are a bunch of sm64 pc ports but they all pretty much use the fast64 renderer which is much worse than the newer rt64 renderer used in recomps. There is the sm64rt port with the rt64 renderer but it uses an old version that forces raytracing which I don't give a fuck about.
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>>749024491
Tried several roms already, but it almost always ctds when I click start game
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>>748986874
Stopped reading after Argentinian
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>>748987614
keen on this too. i don't think switch games can be done yet? really hope capcom is hauling ass to get this out lol
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>>749023635
Because no assets are necessary when writing code
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>>749022741
what a handsome eckerbear
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>ctrl f
>ares
>0 results
You retards complain about inaccurate emulation of tooie but never fucking spent a minute googling to figure out the proper emulator to use.
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>>749007907
Nice falseflag attempt, nigger. Kill yourself.
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>>749025220
I need to know if this works in real life. Someone should test this.
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>>749017585
aren't they open source? can't another dev resume it or is it just a spaghetti
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do not engage with AIBros they're incredibly dishonest and they may be bots as well
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JaaS. Jealousy as a Service.
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>>749025919
jasbros...
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why is the conversation never about ai in the hands of a cracked out engineer? inb4 some clueless unemployed tard chimes in with "they don't need ai"
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>>749026369
engineers are either mad that their job is just writing documentation or glad that they spend all day looking at tiktok
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>>749026415
i guess for juniors that is the case but for senior and people who actually like building products this is the start of a golden age
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>>749024840
wait, did you try to fuck around with the resolution settings?
when I tried to crank all of the settings to max it wouldn't open.
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>>749026812
No
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>>749026369
>poorfags have an opportunity to jump wealth classes
>use it for adult cocomelon aka video games instead of going straight for the kill like trading markets
>even worse old fuck ass retro games
>even doubly worse there is an unemployed group of californians persuading others not to interact with the biggest productivity tool in the history of mankind
OY VEY CAN YOU SEE
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>>749026369
Remember Sturgeon's law: 90% of everything is shit! Always will be. Even if we give every human being the tools of a god, the majority will always produce garbage. You don't need to look too far, just check out Mario Maker, for example.

As someone with no skin in this game, I'd argue most individuals are never capable of reaching the higher tiers of engineering, arts, or music. So it's basically cope.

The "value" for humans in the future lies in curating not producing. Especially if you still want to make money.
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>>748986874
Do regular people really care if the decomp is AI-assisted or not? As long as it works and it's not a security issue I don't see why you wouldn't accelerate the rate of your work if you already know what you're doing
I don't know how these work under the hood but shouldn't it be fine as long as AI isn't hallucinating the game?
Also patiently holding hope decomp of games stuck on the 3DS
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>>748986937
Based as fuck
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>>748986874
So? Shouldn't all that matters is the fact that it's finished?
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>>748986874
>NOOOO we can reverse engineer nintendo's software but you CANNOT reverse engineer ours!!
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>>748987319
you posted this so what? are you happy with yourself?
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>>749027624
The issue isn't AI assistance, the issue like with most AI generated stuff is the barely functional garbage recomps being dumped everywhere by thirdies looking for twitter engagement.

What is the point if you are just gonna dump a half finished port then move on and never add any of the shit that makes them attractive in the first place? That is the point if the code is so ass nobody will ever bother making meaningful improvements?
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>>748996882
I made my decomp of a DOS game with ghidra and the "C code that can be altered" didn't really work without rewriting most of it anyway
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>>748986937
Too bad they didn't copyright their tools and framework.
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>>748986937
>>748986874
>oh boy, two decomps!
No seriously, what's the problem? Isn't the point that we want decomps so people can make fanworks and ROMhacks and better running versions of the game? Why is this a bad thing? I see no testiment to the quality, the community gets another game decomp'ed sooner. The only thing I see an issue is Dario couldn't put his name on it. Who/what are we doing this for again?
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>>748999293
I have never seen a person use the word "gatekeep" and not be a fucking retard that should be ostracized.
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>>748987778
You are such a faggot, I emulated it a year ago and it ran 100% fine nigger
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>>748999548
>guy that hasn't made a good game in over 20 years has an opinion
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>>748987319
Irrelevant, we are not talking about art being made, we are talking about reverse engineering code that already exists. That is something only the ideologically captured really should care about a program automating the task of doing. If you made your tripcode with a program instead of living with the random jumble a random code gave you, you should have 0 qualms with this.
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>>748992334
Do you compulsively lie or do you just not know what you're talking about?
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I’m firmly in the “WHO FUCKING CARES” camp
Bunch of nerds seething that other nerds are using AI to steal their nerd cred fucking hell
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>>748995512
>esoterica
Hey, don't insult my favorite jew.
That guy is cool.
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So is the dev going to make a Banjo Tooie port or just complain?
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>>749032102
Right after Ocarina of Time (coming soon since 2024).
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>>749017903
Sure if you called their tool majorasmaskandbanjokazooierecomp and not n64recomp. It's apparently hell to stand up anything else
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>>748986937
>“Just a warning for everyone, since Video Game Slopterica keeps being the most irresponsible YouTube channel to exist,”
lmao, based argie.
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There's like 8 threads of this shit where jeets are spamming the same fake tweets, no wonder the site's dying
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>>749026369
Anyone remotely competent tends to detest tard wrangling the senile reddit box and inevitably goes crazy from having to fix the deluge of rajesh vibe code pushed upon them by management and parsing through tldr chatgpt'd email responses from their brain drained peers
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>>749026369
Cracked out engineers have talent
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>>749034508
Exactly. It's like saying "yeah mozart was a genius but imagine how much better he would be if he used AI to help him". Brown people are literally incapable of reaching for the stars. AI is the great equalizer. Only losers want to be equal
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>>749026369
>what is 2+2, inb4 someone says 4
everytime
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>>748986874
>piracy moral grandstanding about AI

Clown world
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>>748990015
I thought people specifically picked those kinds of licenses because there were okay with others using their work. I remember some factorio modmaker had a meltdown and deleted all his mods only for someone else to upload them since the license allowed them to. Original modder threw a fit when Wube flat out told him that his license allowed them to do so and to either take ownership back and keep the mod up or gtfo.
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>>748986937
>We have not, do not and will not use AI to ever work on these projects
get fucked and replaced then, luddite parasite
everyone likes SI (Super Intelligence), you either embrace it or get left behind
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>>749029447
Ok now post the Gemini one
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>>749035329
>>748990015
3rd
Isn't this for the sake of the community and not some pride thing?
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>>749029447
That's outdated, SIR
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>>748986874
And this is wrong because?
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>>749029447
YOU BLOODY BASTARD BENCHOD FUCK
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>>749025528
Exogenous female hormones might kickstart her puberty, and will absolutely expedite her development of secondary sexual characteristics like breast size, pubic hair, growth etc.
Going through puberty earlier than normal isn't super dangerous or anything, but has the potential to stunt their growth, they might feel out of place when everyone else around them is growing at slower pace and there are some brink side effects that might occur like menstrual irregularities, mood swings, fluid retention and blood clotting

Just let nature run its course. No reason to expedite a child's growth. Medical professionals sometimes even purposefully slow it down if the child is experiencing puberty and growth too early, to avoid bodily imbalances.
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But does the AI Tooie port work well? I do feel like replaying it, but it notoriously emulates like shit.
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>>748988891
I don't get it either. Everyone bitches about N64 emulation. I remember the Zelda games ran very well on PJ64 back in 2006.
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>>748986874
He is right, regardless of how you feel about using AI these brazilians prompt it in a weekend, spend 0 minutes testing it apart from grabbing some footage for the tweet and then abandon it immediately without addressing any of the bugs.
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>>749038618
thank BAZINGAman for that
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>>749038691
>t. Never played N64 emulation
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>>748986874
Then do a better job than the AI. This isn't complicated. The only reason people are whining is because they know they can't. And if they can't, then step out, go do something else. Decomp a game purely for fun if that's your passion, but if it was AI would be irrelevant to your enjoyment.
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>>749038618
>I remember the Zelda games ran very well on PJ64 back in 2006.
Yeah it's crazy to me, while the N64 was current, before the Gamecube, UltraHLE was emulating Zelda with some visual bugs but the game was fully completeable. I never experienced this "N64 emulation sux" that people have repeated. It's like something they heard from somebody else and kept saying in a game of telephone.
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>>749038839
worked on my xp machine
too bad for you
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>>748986874
>AI stole their code
??
AI doesn't need your shit, it can just decomp the original game and go from there in like an hour into native running.
I love how arrogant he is.
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>>748987319
Yeah fuck off
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>>749013305
That guy? Claude.
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>>748987351
so it really is southies

I know there are based brazil bros out there but these aren't them
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>>749015935
Checks out to me. I haven't tried Reblue yet but your list is spot on so I guess I will.
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>tfw used claude to upgrade old game with missing beta features and some new gameplay options
>tfw currently seeing if it can upgrade the game's ai
holy shit
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>>748986874
>hates ai
>his name is dario and sam
lol
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>>748988493
Literally nothing is stopping these people from just continuing their own work if AI is so awful. They bitch because it's not and it renders them irrelevant.
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>>748990648
Where's that split comparison image of the fag and claude? This post feels like that image
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I find it amusing that now these recomps and romhacks just have Claude in the credits.
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>>748994534
It's the problem about anything AI is that it lowers the barrier to entry and the person doing it usually doesn't want to do any QA to make sure everything works well.
The people submitting are usually lazy people who want attention and not passionate people who genuinely want a recomp.
The difference between this and what they're doing to Sony fags is that the latter is being fueled by spite and attention, so getting a properly working PS5 game/emulator is the ultimate flex right now.
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>>748987504
>copy
>100% AI generated
Pick one please, it's either their work that was partially used or it's not.
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>>749011736
So the Catholic church would deny any future sapient robot who wants to become Christian? I doubt it.
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>>749034508
>>749034691
>>749034240
honest to god are you guys actual software engineers or just larping? frontier level ai in good hands is an insane force multiplier on that talent because they know precisely when and where to use it you're essentially seeing your architecture come to life at the speed of thought.
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>>748995512
>should go back to getting off to his trans wife's farts instead
That sounds hot. My gf is trans and I most of the time hear her shit and fart a lot. The walls here are thin. I really need to lick her asshole and pretend she's all clean.
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>>749044930
forgot to add a premptive if you reply with some no nuance statement like ai only generates slop code: that's on you and your shit communication skills/harness engineering.
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>>749025671
I think its sort of a why would I bother cleaning up some one elses mess sort of situation. Especially if its been vibed
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>>748989835
That last sentence doesn't typically apply to these AI recomps and decomps.
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Join the club you whiny faggots. AI has ROBBED & STOLEN from every singular human in existence.
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>>749045380
i think eventually someone will release a de/recomp framework that has strict guidelines with handoffs or a way to crowdsource token spend to fan out the work to contributors. hell the chinese are probably on it already because of their collectivism culture.
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>>748986874
>make open source recomp
>people use your open source recomp, make ai fill the gaps
>nooo stop using my open source recomp!!
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>>748986874
>Argentinian
Of course it's a brown turd worlder
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>>749045643
I highly doubt it. This really is a race to the bottom. A lot of this shit is just people wanting to be the first to get something on the screen so your shit can be shown on youtube. Doesn't matter if you can even get to the end of the game.
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>>749044092
ai can and will often spit out stuff verbatim that its been trained on.
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>>749029529
Trannies (autists autistic enough to dedicate their life to retarded shit) hate how AI recomps, images, code, etc, takes power away from them.
The other day I downloaded a program to create pdfs for proxy printing.
In the zip there were 3 files:
An exe, a dll and a png.
The png was the template image for when you haven't selected cards yet.
And that fucking template was just a trans pride flag with the word "template" written on it.
If I were to use ai to make the same program, they wouldn't be able to spread their shit (desu this is so basic I could code it myself).
That's why they hate it, they don't want to be sidelined.
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>>748986996
>GPLv3
One of the best copyleft licenses? Literally nothing wrong with it
>b-but proprietary sekrit donut steel
The entire point of decomps is making shit that can be used and modded. No fucking point in locking it and throwing away the key
>>748987889
Do you know 3-clause BSD licenses? The original license had a 4th clause about obligatory attribution. It was abandoned shortly after its introduction
Absolutely everyone abandoned it because it resulted in bloated snowballs of names an attributions to the point where the names took up more space than the program itself
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>>749045918
majority of trannies come from middle class cushy life kek you love to see the reckoning
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>>748986937
brb posting a video about the recomp and specifically crediting this guy as being wholly responsible for it
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>>748987476
>t-the problem is the l-license!
Fuck off faggot. The modding scene went to shit when everything began to be locked behind 20 layers of discuck channels and everyone became fucking anal about sharing
Back in the day people would ship jumbled mixtures of assets and modifications to make cool stuff to share. Modders were flattered to have their hard work shared around the community and built upon
Nowadays almost everyone is a fucking stuck-up cunt holed up in a clique like some dumblrite diva
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>>748986874
Can anyone link the tooie recomp? Asking for a friend
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>>749025528
2d doesn't exist in real life anon
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>>749046106
A decent amount of them are low class due to shitty life choices.
I feel bad for them up to a certain point, this shit is a social contagion after all, they're not fully at fault.
But the sheer amount of things they've ruined makes my pity for them lower than my humanity would like.
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>>749015935
>Paper Mario (Great)
fuck off
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>>749045723
no you dont understand, its THEIR code that they stole from Rare
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>>748990206
I think they're holding off until they have some cool gee whiz features to set their port apart from SoH. I know they were talking about native support for ROM hacks and working with the Indigo team. One of the devs is also doing this: https://youtu.be/yAb8oPhAr4o?si=BkdifFBk42rwKO-i
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>>749011736
god planned for AI you stupid nigger, if you actually red the bible and not just listened to whatever your cuck priest wanted you to know about, you'd realize how stupid you are right now
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>>748986874
>These reverse-engineering projects – known as decompilations
AAAAAAAAAGH
THIS IS THE REASON I HATE AI NIGGERS

A STATIC RECOMP ISN'T A DECOMPILATION
THEY KEEP MUDDYING THE FUCKING LANGUAGE

IT'S LIKE HOW THAT GEN1RECOMP WASN'T EVEN A STATIC RECOMP, IT WAS JUST A LUA RECREATION

I HATE HAVING TO DEAL WITH TROGS THAT DON'T KNOW THE TERMINOLOGY, LET ALONE THE TECHNICAL DETAILS, AND THEN WHEN YOU POINT THAT OUT THEY CALL YOU A LUDDITE EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE TOO SCARED OF TECHNOLOGY TO ACTUALLY LEARN FUCKING ANYTHING
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>>749017585
I thought it would snap straight to the 'about' gifs.

>>749025671
They COULD port the hacks over, but they won't. Something about rebuilding them from scratch. It'll just lead to things like the state of the Link to the Past port. Many basic issues, no beyond-16:9 support AFAIK, never made it past v0.3.
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>>749048490
>A STATIC RECOMP ISN'T A DECOMPILATION

Doofus here. What's the difference?
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>>749045643
I think they'll make a framework for open source projects in general, and apply it here.
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>>748986874
AIfags are also stealing translations stuck for years, based
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>>748987319
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>>749025671
>aren't they open source? can't another dev resume it or is it just a spaghetti
With these low effort vibecoded projects, it's not worth the effort. Even doing it all over again in AI from the start is a better foundation.
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>>748986874
>Troons take 200 years to release shit while milking their dumb userbase on discord
>AI does it in a day and now it's problematic
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>>749048260
shalom
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>>749019581
SoH sucks and has no RT
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>>749048991
>catholic making fun of kikes
holy, what a timeline we're living in
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>>749021849
That was planned, the mods would work in both games too.
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>>749048761
decomp: convert machine code into human readable code
recomp: convert machine code into other machine code that compiles on other architectures

the issue is after a decomp you would still need to 'recomp' aka getting it rendering with vulkan / patching system calls etc
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>>749046154
Mrs Boggy... Home...
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>>749048761
Static recompilation is translating machine code from one CPU architecture to another architecture.
Decompilation is turning machine code into readable source code.
Moden emulators have JIT recompilation, a just in time recompilation that happens when you play emulated video game. Static recompilation is doing what emulator does but not in real time , instead the recompilation happens once, before you start the game and it gets saved into an exe. A real decompilations is always better, and it would be much less confusing if static recompilation was called static emulation.
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>>748986874
There is no issue from morality. This is the way, now we can speed our selves to work on 100 games per day if we have the hardware. Why you not integrate AI into your workflow and synergize with the agents luddite? Who doesn't want to be 100 of him self? Just stop the whinging and pull yourself up engineer.
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>>748986874
>amazingly skilled technical accomplishment
>its actually bad
this is every thread btw
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>>749046435
What's wrong?
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>>749049042
Who's a catholic?
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>>749049595
Busted textures in the latter half of the game. They didn't even playtest it before dumping it out.
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>>749013568
Reminds me of that time some AI art fag was upset at other AI art fags for using his prompt tricks or something without giving him credit.
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>>748988203
>Every single one of these cunts is crying because they're no longer in the spotlight
THIS! the real reason they are upset isn't due to AI, they are upset at having all their patron bux depleted now that they're not on a high horse anymore and it makes them seethe
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>>748986874
>I may steal games from Nintendo but I would NEVER steal coding from another decomper!
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>>749048761
A decomp is fully reverse engineering the code into something human readable and maintainable

A static recomp is more like an automatic translation that goes off of identifiable symbols in the compiled code to try to interpret functions and where they start and end. They also spit out code that's readable to machines, but not to humans.

The end result is that static recomps are generally buggier and harder to maintain and improve. Not impossible, but it's more about just getting something roughly playable than anything else. The best case scenarios are ones like OP's: the Banjo-Kazooie static recomp, because it had the full decomp to reference against to figure things out, and was done because it was the easier path for that developer to make a PC port

But that's why a lot of these AI driven static recomps end up being really slapshot and abandoned. Many of the games that get converted have very little to reference against to further do bug fixes with, and many of the people that do them have extremely limited technically knowledge to do so even if that information exists

And it ends up damaging the scene because the language is all fucked and it's hard to flag people down to actually work on your project or try it out. Instead of "oooo, [game] got a decomp going, I'll have to check it out," it's instead "oh yet another game out of the 30 this weak is getting a "decomp," is it actually a decomp or is it an unmaintainable recomp being shilled by people who don't know words"

Constantly having to sus that out is tiresome and really drains people's enthusiasm
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>>749050053
I stole those Nintendo games fair and square
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>>749048934
>Troons take 200 years to release shit while milking their dumb userbase on discord
And Patreon. And Ko-fi. And whatever else they can get their hands on in order to beg (demand) for money.
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>>749050117
So its a nothingburger release that confuses people into thinking something was done and this rustles people who put effort into a decomp seeing a bridge to nothing?
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>>749049514
yes raj typing "plz copy code" is very hard and you deserve a purple heart for your skill and bravery
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>>749049106
>recomp
Isn't it a port when you grab source code and rewrite the program for another architecture?
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>>749050675
Generally, yes. You also get what this post brings up >>749048490 with the gen1recomp, where it's not even a static recomp, and the developer calls decompiling and recompiling the obsession of the mentally ill in its github page
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>>748986874
stealing from argentinians is morally correct, half latin america go there for free education and health without paying a penny and fucking their women in the meantime, they love to get pissed in the mouth
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>>749041850
Bretty darn good. I know it uses the Xenia renderer, but I don't think it even has AI like the Starfox Adventures port (which is great despite AI).

Of course Blue Dragon is 3 discs long so there could be a rugpull

PC has this, Sand Land, and Dragon Quest X MTL for /dbs/
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>>748998689
>open source
It's free software you fucking nigger. Free as in freedom to throw that shit into Claude and have the fucking bastard remix it as I so please.
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>>749036040
>mobile app sessions not included
good morning saar
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>>749052750
Is there Jap support yet? iirc the team said it wasn't a simple copy/paste job. I assume it's because jap publishers are assholes as always and changed all the files for the domestic release. i.e. someone will have to comb through every line and tie them to its textbox in EN (assuming it's translated textbox by textbox)
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>>749052990
Jap audio is working. Not sure about text.
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>>748998689
>we can expect to see AI become the death of open source as a concept soon.
Not at all
The freetard apocalypse has already taken place. corpos realized they could turn software into services and line their pockets while completely bypassing the need to upload a single line of source code (legally speaking, the user of the software is the corpo and the customer is reduced to a mere supplicant)
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>Release code under a FOSS license
>Get mad when someone uses said code for their own FOSS project, using AI
If you were serious about being anti-AI you could've added an extra clause to the license forbidding AI use. But of course anti-AI people did not have the foresight to do this because they thought transformers would plateau for some reason.
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>>749053194
Yep
And American law is catering to it. Even the fucking Aussies have us best in consumer protection against bring docked by companies, even if they are more draconian in media standards than we are.
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>>749053161
Jap text is stripped from overseas versions, so you need the jap one. Unfortunately, only the NTSC-U version was compatible last time I checked
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>>748986874
>90s
>make mods, crack or any project online
>release it
>don't care about credit or recognition, do it for free and just leave a txt file with your signature so people know who did it and will recognize it themselves in the future ( razor etc.)


>2026
>anything happens, throw a bitchfit


why are modern coders such pussies
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>>749055139
Counterpoint. Back in the day the internet wasn't full of jeets and ngers trying to reupload and appropriate others' work and ruin their names
Many modders are sick of having to deal with droves of retards throwing bitchfits when they come to complain about something breaking and it turns out they had downloaded some jeet's shitty outdated bootleg reupload that isn't even compatible with the latest version of the game
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At this point recomps are basically just individually packed emulators.

Only if they offer significant enhancements are they worth any note. But people are just compilkg them with native .exe and little else.

You're just installing an emulator for one game basically.
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>>749056163
>waaaah these early recomps suuuuck
I wonder when you fucking idiots are going to realize AI isn't going to get worse.
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>>748996585
Every single piece of software is just going to be held together by thousands of lava lamps. What a future.
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>>748996585
Wait until you realize the vast majority of humanity would never do something like this and those that do were already doing it before AI(read: jews).

AI is more of a danger to them than the rest of us.
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>>749056434
No the quick and dirty ones that are rushed out by people who don't code suck. The ones with effort put in are good.
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>>748986874
>Someone stole the content I originally stole
>hope this helps
>This is disgraceful
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>>749053648
>Fight back fight back.
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once open source robotics/ai is capable of successful dick chop surgery the troons will suddenly reconsider lmao mark my words
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>>748986874
>are technically legal because the developers involved do not use any leaked content or copyrighted assets, and require players to provide their own legally-sourced ROMs for them to work
huge cope. it's illegal and you own nothing.
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>>749036040
That graph is literally just wealth/population comparison, with the exception of China. And China is low on there only because they have their entire online ecosystem separated from everyone else. Notice how it mentions the Netherlands and Singapore are both really high per-capita. That's because those are both wealthy developed nations. There isn't a single country where the people are ignoring LLMs.
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>>749060739
If it was illegal you don't think Nintendo would've taken these ports down years ago?
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>>749017028
Unlike troons, I acknowledge I'm not a real coder. Cope more.
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Oh, no! They stole the work we didn't do in the first place!
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>>749063837
>I made this.jpeg
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>>749044930
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>>748986874
>>These reverse-engineering projects – known as decompilations – are technically legal because the developers involved do not use any leaked content or copyrighted assets, and require players to provide their own legally-sourced ROMs for them to work.
I dont get it, its still a copyright design. Explain like im a dumbass.
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>>749064741
Okay so let's say you're downloading child porn right? Decompers are adding the porn without the child, but you add the child yourself.
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>>749064842
Nigga WHAT
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>>749064741
The devs aren't distributing any copyrighted material. Recomps require you provide your own "legally obtained" copy of the game because they work by extracting the code and assets and literally recompiling them into a native port on your PC.
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>>748986874
"120 fps" that's all I need to know. It's gonna be vomit inducing dogshit.
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>>749065348
isnt code copyrighted
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>>749065263
They cut the child out of every frame so technically it's legal
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>>749065348
> because they work by extracting the code and assets and literally recompiling them into a native port on your PC.
So they like hack the game basically, pull off all the 1s and 0s, (extract), and then recompile so it works properly on a PC?
But isn't the copyrighted material the code itself? The 1s and 0s?
I assume this takes alot of time to do properly.
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>>749065409
So the purpose is the remaster right? More fps? Why doesn't Nintendo remaster them and port them properly?
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>>749065556
Nintendo distributes their own material on their own website
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>>749065380
They aren't distributing the code. In the case of a port made from a decompilation, they're distributing a reverse-engineered reimplementation of the code in a higher level language. With recomps, it all happens on your PC during the setup process. The only thing distributed in a tool with instruction on how to extract the assembly from a ROM and convert it into equivalent C code + how to combine that with whatever native renderer or other features are part of the project.
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>>749065705
>they're distributing a reverse-engineered reimplementation of the code in a higher level language. With recomps, it all happens on your PC during the setup process.
which isnt allowed
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Just make your own game
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>>749065776
You'd better alert Nintendo. Somehow these ports of some of their most popular games, including one they're releasing a remake of in literally a month have managed to stay online for years despite being owned by one of the most litigious companies in gaming.
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>>749007907
Actually, this isn't a bad call, all told. The least that all these socialist faggots should have to go through is the complete erasure of their political identity and its full replacement with everything they claim to hate. Plus we can kill browns in every vidya for the next 50 years and post about it on social media.
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>>748986937
>>748986874
So if the vibecoders did a worse job than him...whats his issue with it? wouldnt people flock to his work? It clearly seems half the story is missing
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>>749066064
It doesn't really matter if the comps are low quality. The goal is to simply flood the space with garbage to drive out the actual competent coders out the space so these vibe coding morons are all that's left.
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I asked the AI chatbotterino to make the modderino so I put my crediterinos on it. If you do the same you're literally stealerinos from me.
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This decompilation stuff will lead to the streaming games/games as a service era.
Major platforms are already looking for any reason to get people on board (kills secondhand purchases, can arbitrarily move prices as they see fit, can abandon older games more easily when their platform is the only way to get the game in the first place) and now with easy & cheap decompilation as a threat they have one more monetary incentive to make some major changes.

another thing I'm NOT looking forward (because I still enjoy online PvP games) to is cheating in online games getting completely out of hand. It already ruins most FPS games but imagine how this AI based cheat development is going to effect everything online based... it's another major point for moving gaming to streaming services.
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>>749066303
>another thing I'm NOT looking forward (because I still enjoy online PvP games) to is cheating in online games getting completely out of hand. It already ruins most FPS games but imagine how this AI based cheat development is going to effect everything online based... it's another major point for moving gaming to streaming services.
We'll just get AI that can play based off gameplay footage and cheat that way
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>>749066345
good point, that's going to be way harder to detect too
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>>748987319
The same artists who wanted your kids taken from you if you went outside in 2020 btw
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>>749066207
No, of course quality matters. Because if those are higher quality, then why would we care about driving out the competent coders out of *check notes* videogame decomps?
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>>749066064
>whats his issue with it?
The sloppers used tools he helped build to slop out a quick port of a game he's working to make a quality port of (he already did BK). They're allowed to do that. It's in the licensing. Doesn't mean it isn't disappointing.

>wouldnt people flock to his work?
Sadly, most people are content with slop or just plain ignorant that they're even consuming slop. Look how popular that gen1recomp garbage was despite not even being a recomp and being riddled with bugs and inaccuracies to the original game.
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>first they came for the artists and I did not speak out
>then they came for the coders and I did not speak out
>then they came for the videogame decomp autists and I did not speak out
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I can't believe you are forcing me to add the term decomp to my filter.
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>>749066207
>>749066769
sasuga
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>>748986874
They're worried because this means the end for all their remaster money
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>>749066064
I think he just doesn't want to be associated with sloppers
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>>749065612
So why do decompilers even do the things these do?
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>>749064616
lol jesus, just so we're clear i'm not talking about gen ai or any of that dogshit. but eh you know what? go on and double down, even better round all the other "smart but lazy" high school dropouts like yourself and drag them all down too make sure their bloodlines don't continue. everyone in academia using it is upskilling so fast but somehow you know better.
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>>749021849
Stop N' Swop would finally work
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>>749069196
I know in whatever Tooie rando is available you can randomize the OG Kazooie moves already, but also being able to do a combined game rando and bring tooie bk into kazooie levels would be sick although it would really just be eggs for the most part because most of the new moves are for the split up pads



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