>>748996050>horizontal thumbsticksdropped
>>748996050HELLO SAAAR
>>748996050>Capture>HomeWhat the FUCK was wrong with Start and Select? These faggots just want to change everything.
>>748996050>can't disconnect the cable and use it wirelessly when you want to
>>748996225Start and select are the two white buttons up. Capture makes screencap and home opens "home screen", whatever that means in your setup.
>>748996225Those are not start and select baka, that screenshot button and xbox home button. start and select is on top as 2 box and hamburger button
>>748996270>wants a wireless controller on a wired controllerWhy wouldn't you just buy a wireless controller?
>>748996127>droppedliterally its best feature. the assymetrical sticks have been a plague upon gaming.
was a very nice surprise that the tegenaria lite has the OOOOOOOLD playstation 3 analog triggers, rubber domes
>>748996050how does it feel to lose sales/gain social stigma just from the brand name?
>>748996050i was put off by the name at first but it's pretty solid and cheap
>>748996502/v/'s the only place that really gives much of a damn about the name and only because it has a lot of irony poisoned rejects from /r9k/ and /int/ that think it's an indian thing and not a "game boy" reference
>>748996050Lately, I have been using the Kishi on my phone with many emulators; it is comfortable and has an audio jack for smooth, zero-delay sound gaming.
>>748996358>>748996361Doesn't change my point. What the fuck is hamburger and double square supposed to mean. Why not just call them start and select like CIVILIZED HUMAN BEINGS
i bought one of 360 looking gamesirs but it freaks me outit only works with the usbc cable it came withwhat in the ching chong is this, kinda scared to use it when connected to internet desu
>>748996442Gamesir doesn't have any wireless symmetrical controllers on their website. Which PC-compatible wireless controller comes closest to the one in OP?
You'd think there would be a market for controller bodies made from nice materials like wooden or metal but it seems rare
I hate how you fags have conditioned me to think of Indians whenever I see sir.
>>748996648What makes the differences between these so meaningful that you can make an exhaustive list like this? Is it just ms of input delay and how satisfying it feels to press the buttons or are there deeper layers of autism behind it?
>>748996809I dont know anything about Gamesaar. Do wireless PC controllers really not exist?
>>748996050Was thinking of getting one how long is the cord? I sit about 3 feet away from my pc
Good morning gamesirs
>>748996648none of those are as good as dualsense.
Best controller coming through.
>>748997090>Do wireless PC controllers really not exist?Nope. Just another area where PC is years behind console
>>748997074Probably a combination of everything https://gamepadla.com/
>>748997232in what way?
>>748997369this would be useful for me after my wired controller stops functioning ans i can finally transition to full wireless mode
>>748997432haptics, even stuff like the speaker and how its used in many games, the way the triggers work, etc. It just doesn't hit the same using a normal controller in games that support the dualsense features. A game like returnal is a great example of a game that utilizes all the features of the controller really well.
>>748996648How do you even make a tierlist like this without pulling all of it from your ass?
>>748996050Needs reinforcement around the shoulder/triggers. The internal piece of plastic keeping them in place wears down over time and the trigger eventually grinds against the shoulder button.The back buttons should be able to have turbo mode set to whatever button you've bound to it.Those two changes and I won't ever need another controller.
>>748997569nigga like 3 games make use of all that and only 1 is good
>>748997545>i can finally transitionyou go girl
>>748997232>none of those are as good as dualsense>dualsense>good
>>748996648both the 8bitdo controllers i bought have had their left sticks horizontal axis fail just outside the warranty period all their shit should be in F tier
>>748997569I mean yeah if you play on PS5 and the game actually utilizes the DualSense capabilities, then the DS is on top. I also like how it fits in the hand. But when you play on PC, those GameSir or 8BitDo controllers offer way better value for the price and you also have options like tactile or clicky and back buttons.
Gamesaars
>>748996648Which one doesn't have a trash d-pad
>>748996165kek this
>>748996648all these controllers suck until they figure out a way to make controllers silent when used it sounds like the most horrible noise when you use them
>>748996050The thumbsticks feel like sandpaper and there's no setting for adjusting their deadzones unlike other Gamesir controllers that have software support for some reason but aside from that it's pretty good. Don't know why controller manufacturers all insist on these garbage rimmed stick designs these days when Sony already perfected it on the first DualShock.
>>748997259Those charging pins look fragile.
>>748999174They're not.
>>748996648Higher tiers have too much bloat.
>>748998510It's also $20. This is a controller that 20 years ago would be at a Blockbuster meant for you to pick up because you needed a player 3 or 4 controller but the standards are so low people laud these now.
>>748996050I love the teniggaria lite like you wouldn't believe.
>>748996050>DS4 handlesGet that shit out of my face
>>748996705Because games don't call them that anymore
>>749000249if 8bitdo can give this thick switch 1 pro controller buttons make it quiet and make the L1 and R1 thicker ill buy the next model its perfect, back triggers are great too maybe make the dpad hexagonal
>>749000352Having back buttons are a must for me now. Using them as replacements for L3/R3 is just too good to give up.
>>748996502They're losing sales here just from the constant spam. Even the 8-bitdon't shills gave up.
>>748996648I'm quite happy with my Vader 4 Pro. But I'm pretty gentle on controllers. It just werks and feels solid.
>>748996648>DS2>FShit list
>>748996648>xbox style controller anywhere near Si tried the gamesir cyclone 2 for quite a bit but i eventually went back to my ds4 because that's a lot more comfortable
>>748996050had an eye on this especially the grey retro one but>wiredim just gonna wait for steamcon to drop the price a bit
>>7489968098bitdo pro 3
>>748996648>F310 at the bottomWell played
>>748996648i miss the era before there were 5000 chinkshit versions of everything
>>748996050Wrong controller snoyfag
>>749001474I quite like Saturn pad clones as dedicated 2d game pads
>>749001474Why cant the fuckers at retrobit ship the white color worldwide at amazon.
I can no longer use a controller without a clicky dpad, I would use a Vita as a damn controller for my computer if I could. Are there any good ones out there other than the Series?
whats the best xbox layout controller that I can use on PS5?
>>749001787do you niggers ever use google?https://github.com/xerpi/vitastick
>>748996050The R2 button on this thing keeps conking out on me randomly even after recalibrating it. It seems like a solid controller otherwise.
>>748996050Found one at a thrift store and it's honestly pretty amazing, though I was mainly just used to dualshock 3 and 4s.
>>749001329Xbox anything is too cramped. The Ps5 controller is my favourite
>>749001474I have this retrobit one, the dpad is shit and the bluetooth signal is unstable as fuck, it can lose connection every 5 minutes so I have to use it wired instead, I do not recommend it at all.
>>748996050I could never buy one of these because of the fucking name, which is a shame because they seem decent.
>>748996050the triggers are a bit fragile and I really wish it wasn't wired but yeah, it's really solidI own both of these tegenaria lite thingies + one gulikit TT pro max. good time to be a gamer, gamesir (gamesaar) is unironically doing great
>>748996050it will stop working 3 years from now. third party controllers are not durable
>>749002184because first-party controllers that drift are durable? get out of hereI've had to replace more shitbox one controllers than any third party model
>>749001474>third party saturn controllerthat thing is not gonna last a yearthird party console controllers are garbage
>>749000249I still have a pair of Pro+'s. I use them all the time, and plus they have replaceable chargeable batteries that can be substituted with AA's. I can't stand gamepads that have built in batteries. >>748999416>It's also $20. This is a controller that 20 years ago would be at a Blockbuster meant for you to pick up because you needed a player 3 or 4 controller but the standards are so low people laud these nowI use to call those 'the shitty friends' controllers.. not necessarily because I had 'shitty friends'.. but because they would get their greasy hands all over my gamepads. So I would make sure to have some shirt third party ones on hand.
>>749002247all my 8bitdo controllers still work
>>748996050I have this controller. Its pretty good, I don't care too much for the backbuttons, however.
>>749002247official xbox one controllers are more durable than third party controllersif one broke it's because it was a third party controler made to look like an official one
>>749002137Yeah, it came down to Gamesaar and Flydigi for me when I wanted a controller to replace an aging DS4, and Flydigi was slightly better on latency and was on sale at the time.I also like the flexibility of 2 more face buttons for older games.
I'm currently using my gamesaar to play botw on eden, and being able to put the fucking sprint button on r4 is really nice. Because otherwise I would have to make a fucked up and confusing emulator level alt scheme that would confuse my dinosaur brain all because fucking nintendo insisted on putting THE FUCKING RUN AND JUMP BUTTONS IN TOP AND BOTTOM POSITION WITH NO OPTION TO PUT THEM NEXT TO EACH OTGER BECAUSE THEYRE FICKING RETARDED
>>749002184lmaoyour first party slop still doesn't use TMR or hall effect sticksmaybe if you only play (watch) games like RDR2 or wolverine then yeah you'll be just fine with first party slopotherwise if you actually play videogames you quickly find out that you need to buy from gamesaar or 8bitdo, unironically
>>749002308it's because you have more than one which is extending the life of themthey are not being worn out as much as if you had just one
>>749001879>a0.4.1>32 issues open>last update 8 years ago>no active forkswhy even bother posting>>749001787extremerate has clicky mods for other controllers, I like their DualSense one and I have a Steam Deck with a modded d-pad that feels much better to use than stock.
>>748996648>8bd pro 3 over pro 2This is made by a marketing team. The Pro 2 is half the price and legitimately just better.
>>749002479just ask claude to fix itcant be that hardalso there's another repo that's newer but it uses wifi instead of usb https://github.com/Rinnegatamante/VitaPad
>>749000278>>748996705They're called the options and menus buttons which makes a lot more sense given what they've been actually used for in every game released in the passed 20 years.
>>749001993>Xbox anything is too crampedThe Duke would like to see you.
That design for heads of analog sticks is absolutely disgusting.I tried to use a different controller with the same kind of analog stick heads and my thumb would keep slipping and moving to a different part of the stick as I moved it around, a problem I never had on proper convex analog sticks like PS2 or Logitech F310.
the circle button or b button eventually starts sticking with these shitty third party controllers
>>748996050I'd actually use this despite it being chinkshit with a jeet sounding name. I really enjoy the DS4 but hate the fucking touchpad.
>>749002045>>749002287Snoys made these posts
>>749002836none of my official sega, nintendo, xbox or playstayion controllers have stopped working. it's always third party controllers that stop working workinggamesir 9bitdoit's always these pieces of shit that stop workingi have used my official my official xbox one controller for 10 years now and it still works. if it been a third party controller it would have stopped working years ago
>>748996648Make this with 10 and then we'll talk, you could even grab them all from the s tier and start from there.
The T3 is great as a cheap replacement, but honestly it's still no match for a brand new DS4. Especially because of the fucking triggers, which I'm guessing they HAD to make concave in order to not get sued by Sony. The only reason I can think of for there being no suitable DS4 alternative on the market are patents by Sony. At this point the only option left is to refit old DS4 controllers with TMR sticks. Speaking of which, have any anons done something like this? I've got extremely little soldering experience so I've been worried about doing it.
>>748996050What's a good cheap option /v/?
>>749002354I typically disable them, they sometimes are too easy to press from just gripping the controller BUT i like the option of having them for some games. I think if they just felt a bit different the controller would go from 9/10 to 10/10
>>749003092The controller in the OP is about as good as you can get for symmetrical layout. It costs $20 and has an extremely solid build and has hall-effect sticks.
>>749003092Depends on what you're looking for.
>>749002354I guess they didn't have space to include a way to lock them. It really annoyed me at first too but eventually I just got used to it and now I don't even realize they're there.
>>748996165gamesir has nothing to do with india
>>749002836>Nobody in the thread talking about playstation controllers >Continually seethe at sony anywayThe only people who act this way are broke "master race" posers playing on an Acer laptop that chugs on source games. When you have the money to build a proper PC without it putting you in financial duress, then you're generally a pretty level headed and happy person who doesn't care what other people enjoy. But when youre eating rice and beans for a year to save up for your rig of course you're going to bitterly defend your purchase with an heir of superiority. You go get those imaginary snoys little buddy!
>>749003025If you have any soldering experience at all you're probably fine. Most people who do this mod themselves have zero experience and just follow a YouTube video.
>>749002995my official dualsense controller lasted barely two years before it had rancid stick driftI've gone through two pairs of joycons where every stick had driftwe'll see how my 8bitdo faresmy ps2 controllers have never failed
>>748996498DS4 is still rubber dome and it's a DS4 copy.
OP here I meant to post this pic
Controllers are already completely worthless. They are compromised inputs designed for mass adoption and portability. That said, any controller with a right analog stick instead of a trackpad is somehow even more worthless.
>>749003331PS controllers don't have sticks that are built to last, which sucks because I love their controllers. Fortunately there are ways to deal with it, they just require some DIY.
>>749003373>ds4 is a ds4 copy
>>749003373Ds4 doesn't have domes. He's talking the shape, not the rubber material.>>749003427He could've worded it better sure but is your reading comprehension really that bad?
>>749000249>8shitdoodoo
>>749003324I hope you're right. Then again, I've burned through 3-4 PS4 controllers so I've got lots of room for error.
>>749002576kys retard
>>749003569kiss my sister?!dont mind if i do
>>749002995you either read visual novels 99% of the time or are a paid shill
>>749003598extremely fucking based
>>749003383>Gamecube color>Right stick isnt yellowDisgusting.
>>749003383I have this. Great controller. The dpad is the second best I've ever used, fantastic. But the buttons are so goddamn loud. I also have 0 idea who would ever care about the ability to pop off the face buttons and replace them. The weird analogue stick replacements seem like a meme as well.I use the pro3 when I'm playing wireless, and the Tarantula when playing wired. It's likely in my top 3 for controllers.
>>748997317There it is. The stupidest thing I've read all day.
>>748996648why is my gamesir nova lite rated so low? no fair.
>>749003503Looks the same as the pressure sensitive membranes on the DS3 to me except maybe taller, and I think that's just for alignment purposes.
>>749003543>I hope you're right.I am. My first solder job was a dual sense, I went to an electrical engineering forum for advice and they told me I was over thinking it. I ended using a video guide from youtube by a guy also doing his first solder job on a dual sense controller. If you've soldered before you already know what can go wrong so just avoid messy connections or burning your PCB and you'll be fine. I did my own no problem then started fixing other people's controllers for 50 to 80 bucks a pop. Same deal with ps5 liquid metal maintenance, I made 3k in the week of the Netflix GTA reveal charging 100 to 150 per service.
>>749003973My bad I should've read back further in the replies. Thought you were talking about the stick caps, like the part where your thumb goes.
>>748996050GameSAARRRR
>>749003619The later, snoys are lying shitstains.
>>748997074have you really never thoroughly field tested hundreds of similar products before settling on one and returning all the others?
>>748996648>360 Controller>E TierGet graped
>>748997603>https://gamepadla.com/tier/Thats exactly what he did
>>748996050They need to make a wireless tegenaria lite. I won't be satisfied with my 3 wired tegenarias
>>749004075>$3k in a weekDamn son. It's good to learn things.
>>749004759Legally, I don't think they can. I have no proof of this but I'm pretty sure the T3 is as close to a DS4 as anyone can commercially manufacture without Sony suing them into oblivion.
has any controller been released that matched nintendo pro controller's battery life? if it wasn't for the shit triggers that would have been the ultimate controller, even if I do prefer symmetrical layout.
>>748996648I can personally vouch that the G7 Pro 8K is awesome
>>748996648>g7 se that lowits a great controller, theres no fucking way the others are that much better
>>749001628They haven't made any new models since, I think Retro-Bit have lost the license by now
>>749004759>>749004918There's a wireless Tegenaria coming tho. End of year or early winter 2027.
>>749005509Then either the patent is expiring around then or I am just a retard who shouldn't spread questionable rumors on the internet. If the patent thing is just straight up nonsense then idk how else to explain why there have been 0 suitable DS4 clones on the market. Lack of interest by manufacturers is certainly possible but I find that to be unlikely.
>>749005509>the exact same shitty triggersugh
>>749005652DS4s are really only popular with Rocket League players. Lots of people love the DS4, but an astronomically higher amount of people just want an Xbox style controller or DualSense.
>>749004473Why are you still in this thread after being destroyed earlier? You're literally the guy from the "stop having fun" meme in a thread full of people talking about game controllers for their PCs.
>>749005697>mfw I'm a Rocket League playerI see. So it really was me who was the idiot the entire time...
>>748996050>ZERO good Playstation buttons controller with tmr sticks, extra buttons,pressure sensitive face buttonsThe ultimate ps controller still doesnt exist in the big 2026
>>749005694The triggers on the new one are hall effect with a toggle to switch to mouse clicks. Bumpers are also mechanical now. Buttons and d-pad are still membrane. Wireless and wired are both 2K polling rate>>749005764I get it tho. I broke my Tegenaria Lite's R2 from Rocket League lmao
>>748996127Wdym? I see nothing wrong.
>>749005825>I broke my Tegenaria Lite's R2 from Rocket League lmaoSame, brother. Exact fucking same situation. I'm on my 3rd (THIRD) T3 now because of it. The poor R2 button suffers a lot of abuse because of Rocket League. I also discovered another game recently that is inadvertently designed to destroy R2 triggers (as well as the tendons in your hand responsible for pressing them).How much is the wireless T3 going to sell for? The wired one's main draw is the price, so hopefully they don't think they can get greedy with the wireless one.
>>749006015They haven't announced a price yet but I'd guess like $40 because it's basically got feature parity with their Super Nova which is $50, but comes with a charging dock
i got a leadjoy xeno plus a few months ago. had a flydigi apex 4 and 8bitdo ultimate 2c prior to thisit's alright. i like the big face buttons. wish it was membrane for the buttons and d-pad but alas
>>749006115Hmm, yeah sounds about right. Even $40 seems a little steep, but it's not exactly an unfair price. No world in which I'd pay more than that, though. At $30-$35 they'd make a fucking killing, but they'd also probably render the T3 obsolete except for people who seriously can't afford anything more expensive. Though $20 in and of itself is an extremely attractive pricepoint for any hardware. It sits right at the sweet spot of "bargain" and "decent quality". Anyway, no sense in digressing further. Good to know that at least there's something like this on the horizon.
Is there any big reason to upgrade if I manly use a 8bitdo ultimate 1?
>>749006386IMO there's never any good reason to upgrade if you don't have any issues with the controller you're currently using. None of this shit would ever concern me to begin with if the DS4 came with sticks that were built to last.
>>7490064188bitdo never really managed to get the d-pad right outside of the Pro 3 when they stopped trying to 100% clone the SNES d-pad
>>7490063868k controllers are genuinely next gen game changing along with gen 2 tmr sticks. next gen consoles will definitely brag about these things so get it now on pc.
>>748996050woops wrong image
>>749006575>next gen consoles will definitely brag about these thingsdoubt.jpegthe first party controller market is a total racket. they'll never do TMR or HE sticks again like the dreamcast because it doesn't sell controllers with manufactured obsolescence
>>749006436I'd still be using my DS4 if it weren't for the fragile micro USB port that disconnects at a slight jostle
>>749006642maybe sony controllers but xbox regularly does collabs with other brands to make them basically first party like gamesir.
>>749006725and despite that, none of their first party controllers, even the ELITES, have any features like that. and they sell hand over foot
>>749006628>NOOOOOOOOOO IT'S BAD BECAUSE I CAN'T BUY ONE
>>749006713Why don't you get the dongle? IIRC the prices for the official one were batshit insane a little while ago, but it looks like the bubble may have popped on them.
>gamesaar
>>749006628How does it solve controllers if you can't get it, GabeN?
>>749006828xbox series x is hardcapped at 250hz polling rate. an elite controller makes no sense for it. next gen will have 4k-8k polling standard.
>>748996165I enter this threads just to laugh at these posts based
>>749006713https://www.extremerate.com/products/extremerate-type-c-version-replacement-bottom-shell-compatible-with-ps4-controller-jdm-040-050-055-models-whiteGet a drop-in USB-C replacement for $20
>>749006572i like it on the m30
>>749006859its bad because it doesnt have xinput like every other controller
>>748996050Color me shocked, I got one a couple of years ago thinking that it would be a disposable controller, but it is still working fine after all this time.Feels kinda cheap (because it is) but it's not half bad. Saaar, I kneel saaaar. A good controller for trying times saaaaar.
>>749006903The battery life on them is sucky especially if you overclock the polling rate. I'd have no problem using them wired if the ports weren't so flaky
>Dualsense or Dualsense Edge for PS5>Switch 2 Pro Controller or Joycon Grip for Switch 2>Steam Controller for PC gamesAlways pick the right tools for the right job.
>>749007121>Joycon Grip for Switch 2no thanks, you can keep it
>>749007068>The battery life on them is suckyOh yeah... now that I think about it, I remember that being true. It's been so long since I've used a DS4 that I can hardly remember all the things about it that were annoying.
>>749006983Didn't know a solder/dremel free solution existed.I'll have to determine my board revision if it's compatible sure I'll try that, thanks anon
>>749007059fag shit that a controller doesn't need
god i wish someone made a modern version of this. i fucking hate bottom sticks and offset sticks. top sticks is objectively the best.and yes i ALSO play with those buttons in that order. A is A and not B or whatever the fuck it is on shitbox
>>748996050I'm not even kidding when I say I use this controller way more than my xbox controller. The era of shitty madkatz controllers really is over.
>>749006575Does that higher polling rate make a genuinely noticeable difference? I guess I've never played with a controller that has a higher than 1000hz, now that I think about it.
>>748996050>actually solves them
>>749007352Hi Cory
>>749007352I do not cosign your stick or button preference but I will say I miss the 360 controller shape. The modern iterations are cramped and uncomfy
>>749007396more buttons
>>749007352I cannot stand this controller kek. The one time I used it I was so fucking confused about what I was doing.
>>749002526Whats better about the Pro 2? Legit thinking of picking one of those up.
>>748997259Looks Satanic
>>749007703i was nintenturd my whole life and i actually genuinely owned a wii u. infact i still use my old 2012 mayflash dongle to use it on my pc. i dont know how long it will last though.i think im going to build one or something. that pro controller x project seems like a nice modern update
>>748996648This was made by AI isn't it?
>>749002098>This is your brain on /v/
>>749007953Unless it's a big YouTuber that buys these to make videos I have a hard time imaging a person that's this into this and can afford 70 controllers
>>748996648I didn't think anyone liked the Chitu 2 that much. I picked mine up for around $30 online and it does feel really good.
>>749007265you mean every game not on steam? so you have DRM on a fucking controller lmfao
>>749008146Debunked, Pedro
>>748996050Nope, face buttons too far apart
>>748996648>F310 that lowbro what
>>749008287>bro whatIt was NEVER good
>>749008287Don't worry, its big brother is many fathoms deeper
a question to people who've used lots of controllers.are the A (for xbox) or X (for ps) buttons supposed to be softer to press compared to the other ones? or is it just a natural sign of wear?
>>749005652I think to a certain extent the chincs still look at the Xbox controller as the default for PC gaymen and the Switch controller layout since they typically support those platforms.8shitpoo has a fair amount of DS4 influence but they don't do exact clones after getting gaped by Nintendo in the old days.>>749006575It's only been a few years or so since 1000Hz was hyped as a big deal and people are still using 125Hz Xbox controllers without giving a shit.. Big time diminishing returns on 4000Hz, like from 125Hz to 1000Hz is a reduction of 7ms, from 1000Hz to 4000Hz is 0.75ms. That 7ms on its own is kind of whatever but the way to look at it is in a 60hz tick game it's a 43% chance of saving you 16ms which you might actually notice. Of course this is only if other sources of latency are equal anyways.
>>749008575Wear
>>748996050I hate the xbox era ABXY buttonsI have no issues with using those letters, I think Nintendo used them tastefully. But the 360 buttons look cheap and childish. Sony has the best ones by far but really ABXY can look good just for whatever reason 360 brainbroke everyone.
mobapad chitu 2 if ur a sw*tch user, this dog walks the pro 2 controller for 50$
>Tegenaria Lite>Tarantula Pro>Victrix ProMan every controller I buy is total fucking ass for fighting games. I used to have an Astro C40, which was perfect, but they discontinued it and now I'm stuck buying a new Dualshock and modding kit every 4 months before they break down.Seems like every controller now is only made for Valorant faggots and the dpad is just an afterthought
>>749009435>Man every controller I buy is total fucking ass for fighting games.Just use dedicated fighting game sticks or whatever they are called.
>>748996648>all those controllers above DualsenseYet every single one of them just looks like an ugly ass fucking Mad Catz Xbox controller
>>749000249>SNES pad with handlesSexy.
>>749009435https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/shop/p/refurb-c40-tr-gen-1.996-000360Logitech still sells them refurbished in-house for $99 https://battlebeavercustoms.com/products/c40-tension-modulesBattle Beaver also makes TMR modules for them
>>748996050>souless controllesNot worth being reminded of fake (dot) indians every time you play even if the sticks have the least lag (1ms vs 7 ms.)
>>748996127Retard, kys fpwp
>>749007396>order DominosYou bastard
>>748996648Retard once again,I refuse to elaborate either. If you legitimately can't understand why non horizontal sticks are bad without being spoonfed the answer, you really need to just kill yourself as you're very clearly a casual.
>>748996502The name is "peerless little chicken" (peerless is gaishi=gamesir) in Chinese so I get why they changed it, but at least that had more character. Gamesir sucks.
I just bought a Steam controller 2. It was clearly made in China, why are the chinks so slow to churn out cheap copies of it?
>>749009354Silent version any good?Thinking of getting that one.
>>749007685
>>749009768I do have a hitbox, but my muscle memory is so locked into gamepads that I ultimately only really bring it out to locals as an occasional novelty>>749010020>second handNah that's okay
>>748997090>Do wireless PC controllers really not exist?They absolutely do, I own a DS4 clone that happens to be able to also connect to PC flawlessly and without DS4Windows.
>>7489979348bitdo pro 3 nice and clicky, close to the vita's dpad but not quite as god like
Show me a single controller that looks even half as AESTHETIC as this one.
>>749011274The Saturn controller is a direct improvement on the Genesis controller and while I think opinion is that is the least dogshit of Retrobit's somehow incredibly inconsistent shit inherently it can not be ideal.
>>748996127playstation controller layout would be perfect if not for the retarded shapes
>>748996165underrated post
>>749011593My nigga.Love my picrel. If im ever playing somthing that doesnt require sticks, this is what i grab, dont care what system the game was originally for, this is the best.
>>749011718Ok but it's red
>>748996050This controller is pretty good, and since they were (are?) $20 I bought two of them.Then the Steam Controller 2.0 came out, and now the Tegenaria only gets used in emulators.
>>749011593>>749012129But ergonomics and button count beats aesthetics. Same with how cars used to look much better but now have better safety ratings and mileage efficiency even though they all look like shitty gay bubble cars.
what makes a good DPAD? aren't they all inferior to sticks?
>>749007795The face buttons on the 2 are quieter, and the dpad in particular feels way better. It has a membrane pad while the 3's is switch-based and clicky which I hate. It feels better, it's cheaper, and it takes AA batteries in a pinch which is cool. 3 has some nice bells and whistles but for the price and it feels a bit more substantial, but I can't imagine a person owning the 2, buying the 3 when it came out, and being satisfied. It's barely a sidegrade if I'm being generous, and a pretty overpriced one at that.
>>749012874>But ergonomicsthe 3button feels better than the 6button idk what your on about.>and button countThe one i posted is literally a 6button, shaped like a 3 button, its the best of both worlds.(and yes it has shoulder buttons too, just cant see them in that pic, and 2 extra buttons added to the bottom (guide and select))
>>749000249>breaks after 2 monthsWould be a good controller if not for 8shitdo's complete lack of QC.
>>748996050This "solved" thing mildly annoys me.
>>749003234clearly the poorfag 3rdie market is what they are targeting
>>748996648It seems you accidentally cropped the SSS tier with the Steam Controller.
Don’t play shooters so the stick placement is bad
>>748996648>Apex 5>G7 Pro>S>TT Max>A>8bit do anything>Above FAll those are ass.
>>749005240It has potentiometer sticks, membrane face buttons, the dpad is kinda ass, no extra shoulder buttons, and it's wired.It's was a good controller 5 years ago. But compared to other, cheaper, controllers today it's lacking. The EasySMX D10 is cheaper and pretty much a straight upgrade.
>>748996050sorry man not buying from a company called "gamesir"Maybe if they change their name to chinkslop I'd consider it
>>749013929Take the indian pill
>>749003695>But the buttons are so goddamn loud.I like it that way>I also have 0 idea who would ever care about the ability to pop off the face buttons and replace themI use it for PC and switch 2 and since switch 2 uses the Japanese A is B and B is A format I replace them when switching platform>The weird analogue stick replacements seem like a meme as well. Yeah I don't see who you use that maybe for fighting games like streets fighter
>>748996050>GAMESAAR>brown handlmao
>>749003324the tricky bit is desoldering if you have a weak iron, my iron could barely get hot enough to melt my previous soldering, and I don't know what the fuck I did to the iron for it to start doing that, I was sure it used to be able to get hotter.still installed my TMR sticks though, it's great.
>>748997232Kek>>748997569All of that is extremely good but only on ps5 where it works wireless, now the thing about dualsense is the lack of TMR sticks this alone makes dogshit tier
>>749011593>>749012129Saturn clears
>>749003383I had one of these for about 2 years. Had no complaints about the feel and layout, but after a while the usb-c slot started to fail and the shoulder buttons started to lose their springiness before that. I'd say it's pretty good, but not the best thing I've ever had.
>>749014153looks like shite mate
>>749014429Your shit is shiny black?
>>749003234okay saar
>>749012129>no start button???
What are some decent modern controllers for people with small hands?
>>749015049>close your eyes anon, I got the perfect controller for you>Oh wow it's so small it fits in one hand!>Oh that, that's just my penis
>>749003025I have replaced my DS4 with Gamesir Super Nova. It's not the same layout, but all the buttons feel the same.
>>749015079anons feminine penis..
>>748996127Sorry about your deformed hands
Retard here that has been using x360/ds4/ds an ungodly amount of time on pcare gamesir/8bitdo wired controllers plug and play without having to install/set up stupid shit like ds4windows?mostly for emulation/steam purposes
>>749015126I bought 50 bulk DS4's right after the PS5 came out for about $300. With this single device I have pro controllers not made with chinese spyware for the next 50 or so years
>>749015184Yes, almost all of them support xinput.
>>748996050Why is there no wireless version of this specific controller? Why is it called Lite if there is no regular non-lite version?
>>749005694They look fine to me, what's so shitty?
>>749014881Its right above the XY buttonsNot sure why they kind of tried to hide it like that tho
Is there really no good options of third party controllers for the PS4? Something with the Xbox style layout preferably.
>>749016889yeah you just have to kill yourself, they got the best controllers where you're headed
>>749016962Didn't know your mom made controllers at home
>>749005460It still gets firmware updates, the problem is SEGA.This shit sold like pepsi at martinsville in a raceday.But sega is full of boomer morons allergic to money.
>>749005713In what sony jeet? He isnt wrong.You fags derails every single controller thread, even the flightstick and wheel ones.
>>749003092Ultimate 2c.
>>749011054Buy the saturn controller, and watch arcade stickfags seethe.
>>748996648This list looks like it was made by """"people"""" who play competitive FPS games with controllers
>>749017273No shit sherlock
>>749017273Idk why but I get so sweaty on mouse and keyboard. It's like a primal instinct telling me it feels right
>>749009435I'm still using the hori fighting commander octa as my main fightpad, I even bought a second version because I was a retard who didn't buy the ps5 compatible one the first time around. Don't actually take this as a recommendation though because people seem to hate it online and the one irl person I got to buy it returned it a day later. It just hits my very specific preferences.
>>748996165this is why im still gonna get 8bitdo
>>749017296Aiming a reticle is not part of a controller's hardware functions. It's like making a tier list of the best arcade sticks for productivity work, strictly speaking there will be a difference between them but you'd have to be a little stupid to use them that way
>>749017317Same here, my heart beats really fast and has palpitations but it feels right to me
>>748996050buy an ad chink. this is an 8bitdo remote with chink names for start and select. kys
>>749017358I actually tried one of these from a friend of mine, wasn't a big fan (dpad felt very mushy and imprecise). Did some research a while back and apparently the previous version, which is now out of production, was much better
>>748996050I've been using Steam Controller and it solved the controller game for me: has all the options for 3rd of a price of a custom with same features from a western company that's not interested in screwing over its customers: no faults found in the controller. 8bitdo could never come close.>>748996704why not just use some bluetooth paired headset instead of plug on a mobile device not like you'll outlast the battery whilst gayming on a smart device.
>>748996050I assume 90% of gamesir users are either poor, retarded, or both. The DualSense Edge with TMR clears every controller. Rich feature set, microphone, headphone support, just tons of stuff. That thing you posted is a PS2 era relic.
>>748996050>>748996225>>748996358I still don't know which is which whenever a game tells me to use the start and back/select buttons with their new names, and new icons. When a game first prompts me to use them, I always have to look at the controller to tell which one is which or press one randomly to confirm which side is which, and then I forget again when I play the new game, it never sticks like start/select start/backIt was so simple before, rectangle was select and start was triangle.Even Xbox' Back was obvious, a triangle facing the other direction indicating to return back, idk why they had to change something that worked flawlessly, both had their own unique thing and it worked perfectly.
>>748996127Why do tendies and xbots always say this?
Good morning saar do not redeem the steam controller saar. Gamesaar best controller saar berry good saar.
>>749001474>6 face buttons>still has two sticks, a dpad and 4 shoulder buttonsoooh, baby, that's some good shit.How does it work with games? like how do those 2 extra buttons show up or what do they do in game? is it R3/L3?
>>749019240post TMR sticks for cheap or kill yourself, your choice
>>749019860The double squares always trip me up because I always think it's the start button but no, it's select. Hamburger is start.
>>749019240Doesn't the Gamesir G7 Pro/Pro 8K have all of that and more like tactile face buttons, for like $90? DualSense Edge is way to overpriced and still missing features.
is there a site that sells tiny controllers for pc or modern systems? is that still a thing?like this one for example, not the snes or genesis type controller. wireless if possible
>>749020232>>749020358Like I said, it's a money issue for people. It's $280 for a DualSense Edge setup with TMRs, which is half the price of a console. >Doesn't the Gamesir G7 Pro/Pro 8K have all of thatSony's implementation of each of those features is far superior. The Haptics, Adaptive Triggers, Lightbar, etc... it's in a league of it's own. Also 8k sensors for a controller is just retarded, wouldn't be surprised if that causes more issues than it helps. The system and game will need to poll it 8,000 times a second...
>>749020523You can also just not use the 8k mode and got back to 1k or just buy the normal G7 Pro
>>749019240I don't think someone using high-end controllers for joystick focused games ought to be calling anyone else retarded
>>749019240I am not or ever buying a snoy controller, shilltranny.
>>749020523I bought a dualsense edge on black friday and they sent me two in the mail by mistake for no extra charge git gud faggots.
>>749020072Works great, but there are some issues related to the button layout because fucking windows, but that was fixed.
>>749020380>using a madcatz shitstain of a contoller
>>749019240No idea why you quoted me but I use my normal DualSense for basically everything on PC because I prefer its ergonomics and features. DirectInput is always going to be worse than Xinput in most cases and not everyone wants to deal with running DualSenseX or DS4Windows to force Xinput on the thing as that can also cause issues at times. Even in games that support DirectInput like the early Yakuza games you can't use a DualSense because it interprets it as both DI and XI at the same time so you get two inputs at the same time despite having nothing running and Steam not interfering with it. I can't remember if my DS4 also had issues or not. SteamInput can also randomly cause issues in getting games to register it properly and does the DI/XI issue sometimes.You're also forced into manually enabling haptics through the sound settings and configuring the speakers which not everyone realizes, and if you're one of those escaped mental patients who likes sound coming from the controller you also have to do the same for the microphone side as well. Then there's the fact that if you're not on W11 it always acts as the default audio source if you ever unplug it so you have to manually switch over every single time.There's also the fact that without a wired connection you don't get haptics at all. No vibration, no trigger rumble, and I can't remember if gyro works either.I'm also not at all a fan of back buttons as they ruin every controller I've ever touched that has them so it's an actual ergonomic downgrade to get an Edge. If it had extra shoulder buttons that would be a different story as that's one of the best additions to a controller ever seen as it doesn't ruin ergonomics and is in a natural position that doesn't require awkwardly pressing to hit.
>>748996050My right bumper's kinda stiff but other than that it's great, I'll probably get the wireless one when that comes out.
>>749021019I bought one and the right trigger squeaks every time it's pulled. I hate it so much
>>749021095>so it's an actual ergonomic downgrade to get an EdgeYou can remove them.
>>749009435When it came to dpads and I bit the bullet and starting using asymmetrical layouts so I had more options. Flydigi makes really good dpads.For fighting games and 2d games that don't use a lot of buttons or the sticks, I like retrofighter d6.
>>749021232This would be the perfect controller if it had analogs
>>749008562That is an F710 though
>>749021179Now you have holes in the back you're constantly touching.
>>749003234poorly chosen brand name then
>>748996165good morning butiful
>>748996050Why is it so difficult to make just a normal controller with no bullshit? Just with the latest tech like the new type sticks
>>749013558cool controller, but nobody can buy it
>>749006418Just bought this thing how much will I regret it?
I'm happy with my 8bitdo
>>749000249I love the Pro 3 but it needs a dpad mod to not have accidental diagonal inputs. It's so close to being perfect out of the box.I don't get the complaint about button noise 2bh
>>749021590They make them break on purpose now
>>749018089>this is an 8bitdo remote with chink names for start and select. https://gamepadla.com/8bitdo-pro-2-hall-effect.htmlrank Dhttps://gamepadla.com/gamesir-tegenaria-lite.htmlrank A>kysafter you
>>749021268Why the fuck would you want analog sticks on a fight pad
>>749021232I like the 8bitdo M30 a little more then the D6
>>749019860Nintendo was the only sensible one. Plus and minus are easy to recognize and remember, the names are easy to type and say, they don't imply a specific function, and they give a sense of order because it makes sense for plus to be on the right and minus on the left. Other companies saw that start and select don't really apply to how they are used in games any more and had the great idea that they should create a new set of buttons based around functions that still may not necessarily match how they are used in a game. The icons are complicated enough that I can't tell what they are supposed to be, I don't know what I would call them, and I can't remember which is which. I'm not going to throw a tantrum just because they renamed a button that wasn't used to select things since early NES games, but something has gone terribly wrong when continuing to call them start and select is the most effective way to communicate. I have to assume that everyone got together and decided they were going to intentionally make these buttons as bad as possible since there is no reasonable way they thought this was a good design.
>>749021590OPs pic is literally that
>>749021926Pro 3 fixes the lag. The Pro 2 is like a 8 year contoller at this point
>>748996050i like it, but i'm going to just stick with the PS4 controller (PC)
>>748996648Whenever I see one of these lists with the Vader controllers in S and A tier, I just know they haven't actually used one for a long duration. They have worse QC than the Xbox controllers and will break within a few months. I've had three Vader controllers and the bumpers broke on 2 of them. My third one has other issues (tension rings loose, just weird movement issues in-game) so I don't tend to use it but I can almost guarantee it would have broken bumpers by now.
>>749021268I don't mind having a dedicated 2D and dedicated 3D controller.
>>749022063I really wish info on longevity of products was more easily available. Almost every review I see just focuses on the initial impressions, but when it actually comes to how solidly something is built and if it will last you a while, you're out of luck.
>>749021989>Pro 3$69.99vs$19.99 for tegenaria-liteis it a tendie thing being conditioned to pay insane prices for anything and sperg out and literally tell some to kys for pointing that out?
with the only drawback of being wired i think this is the best pc controller. reasonably price and well designed. i don't own it but i love how it looks.
>>748999174They're regular pogo pins. Same shit in most earbugs cases. They're perfectly fine.
>>749022218When I was young and poor I bought the cheap stuff that felt bad to use and just broke shortly after.You are allowed to pay a little extra for quality
my 9 year old Ds4 has slight stick drift, any 2,4ghz wireless replacements for it when it finally croaks? I hate bluetooth, the delay is massive and for some reason the connection is very lossy for me so I use wired
>>749022446>You are allowed to pay a little extra for qualitythe tendie shows his brand loyalist face.
>>749022218The tegenaria feels like the cheapest mad kats plastic in my hands
>>749022726>>749022303
>>749022446How about cheaper AND better? Tendie shit is worse in both aspects. A fool and his money...
>>749022875>>749022720you are saying "tendie" like I should know what that is
>>749021232Nah, the D6 sucked dick. Buttons and d-pad somehow have no tactillity whatsoever despite using mouse microswitches and it feels like pressing into a shallow sponge. The designer is in a mutual Discord server and I have half a mind to tell him how much it sucks to his face.
>>749021365Did you miss the "big brother" bit and the OceanGate incident or are you ESL?
>>749002287>Wont last.Mines lasted for about 6+ years now, not a problem, just finished up playing Policenauts on the Sega Saturn.
The steam controller looks really fucking big for my baby hands. I've been using a PS4 controller but wanted to get something wireless so I could stream to my TV. I wanted to get a wireless USB dongle for it but apparently they don't sell them anymore. Any recommendations?
>>748996648>Xbox 360 in Rank EThis whole fucking list is a troll, isn't it.
>>749024026If you like the DS4 you should like the Steam controller I think. I've used a DS4 as my main controller for the last 10 years and I was worried about the Steam controller size when looking at images too, but after having got it and used it I can say it's really comfortable and not too big at all.
>>749023453I got it and found unfunny, so I ignored it
>>749024162It's dogshit now. Standards have evolved.
>>749006938what the fucka
>>748996050i have one it feels pretty good to use BUT the rumble motor died almost immediatelly
>>748996165spbp
>>748997569>returnalNow I know you're trolling. The dualsense is average at best.
>>749003383Have the one on the right, the printed letters on a and b buttons were blurry on first one I ordered, ordered second one to see if it was a fluke, it was the same, the a button print is also misaligned, contacted 8bitdo and was told it's by design. The buttons are replaceable with magnets underneath but very difficult to find replacements.
>>748996225Unironically jews. They were patented by a patent troll.
>>748996468delusional
>>748996648dualsensers… our response?
>>748996050unironically, the best cheap controller on the market. i modded mine to have a detachable usb cable. was easy as fuck.
>>748996050I'm using this nowadays. Playing a lot of old stuff, its D-pad is great.
>>749027330Having a trackpad makes it more capable than anything but the the Steam Controller. Tackpads are the most space efficient way to add additional inputs to a controller since you can bind many inputs to each side of the trackpad. More reliable sticks don't matter if a controller is missing an important feature.
>>749027681seems like premium copium
>>748996648>no symmetrical sticks in SShit list
>>749027721That isn't how you use the word cope.
>>748996648>DS3 and 2 at F>X360 at EYeah, no.
>>748996648just got a 8bit due and they are pretty goodand i know people bitch that they are too small, but i dont have giant ogre hands, im only 180cm tall so they are perfect for me
Gamesir is probably pretty good product, but i simply wont buy it because the name is stupid and i can't even think about it without laughing.GAME SAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!
>>749027935it is. you’re huffing the finest stuff
>>749028685Then can you explain how it would apply here or are you just repeating buzz words you don't actually understand and plan to deflect again?
>>749028548let's hear your name anon
>>749029059sure. you’re gay and so is the touchpad on your dualsense
>>749029109Steam Controller
>>749029236Another deflection with no meaningful content? I sure didn't see that coming. This is what actual cope is anon. You don't know how to explain yourself or form an opinion so all you can do is desperately lash out with insults.
>>749022936How new?
>>748996648wheres the steam controller
>>749029591like 6 years?Should I be an autist who browses this website 24/7 to learn all the weird words you use?
>>749022936lurk more fagityou should know what it means
>>749029798I lurked for ten years before I made my first post and I'm better for it.
>>748996050whats a game sir?
>buy wireless gamesir controller>now I'll spend the next 10 years fretting over the fact that the battery will eventually die and make my controller a complete paperweightthese Gamesir g7 or whatever they're called should've had a direct connectivity to bypass the battery or something..
>>749007352you're stuck with modular controllers if you want the Wii U layout
>>749029998you sound like a loser
>>749000249This shit sucks. Within months it wasn't registering button presses. I ended up taking it outside and smashing it to pieces in my backyard after it made me die in a game. 8bitdo never again.
>>749030010>>now I'll spend the next 10 years fretting over the fact that the battery will eventually dieThis basically doesn't happen tho
>>749030083You sound like you think I give a fuck about what a newfaggot thinks of me.
>>749000249Haven't tried it yet but the ergonomics look terrible compared to the T3 Lite, with the massive surface area and the stubby handles, and this is apperntly the only symmetrical controller they have
>>749030165did you get a letter in a mail telling you what a special person you are?
>>749030010The G7 series is actually pretty easy to take apart and the battery uses a plug instead of being soldered. The only challenge is sourcing the correct one.
>>749030160Why tho?
>>749030347You didn't? Wow, you must really suck.
>>749030347Yes, it was a personal dinner invitation from moot. Unfortunately I couldn't work him into my schedule.
>>749030010Just use it as a wired controller if that happens?
>>749003383>OP hereYou know what? I don't believe you. I think you're exploiting the anonymous nature of imageboards to impersonate the original poster. I don't care if I sound crazy. I'm calling you out.
>>749022303D pad is in the wrong place for 2d games
>>748996165Literally the only reason I won't get one kek.Are they actually decent?
>wirednonsense.
>>749015049Gulikit Elves 2 is the tiniest one with two sticks I can think of.
>>749030010I thought that's how they worked in the first place. Haven't seen confirmation but Sony controllers are the only ones I know of that actually require a functional battery for a wired connection.
>>749022303the main drawback is having the microsoft license cockblocking it from features like macros or turbo, if you only play on PC then you can just disregard anything with an xbox logo on it (even gamesaar agrees given their recent tweet)
Postan' in a sticky???
>>748996050What do you even need a dpad for in 2026?
>>7490314422D games
>>748996165>>749021464>>748997064>>748997160>>749004147>>749006908>>749013978>>749014592Good morning sir, how are you?
>>748996809Duh, Gamesir T3 Pro is what you're looking for.
>>749030459NTA but >these Gamesir g7 or whatever they're called should've had a direct connectivity to bypass the battery or something..
>>748996127tf they supposed to be, vertical? what the shit
>>748996050Solves.
I found 8bitdo better.
>>748996648>Easysmx D10 above 8bitdo and gamesaarAre you kidding me
Is Gamesir the Madcatz of the zoomer generation?
>>749030984>cockblocking it from features like macros or turbo>their recent tweetwhat do you mean. what tweet
>>749032925https://x.com/mygamesir/status/2105296613677691297
>>749032973>No cyclone 2Is the cyclone 2 bad?
>>749032973I wish T7 worked with the switch. it's a great controller.
>>749033092It's good but price wise it would sit between G7 Pro 8k/Nova 2 lite and they didn't make a "tier" for it.
>>749032913Gamesir is esports gradeMadcatz is something like Hyperkin
>>7490333868K polling rate is a meme-ACK!
>>749033386>esports gradeany esports played on a controller is a joke
>>749033457when your actions are updating 8-32x faster than your opponent it really does feel like cheating
>>749033573kb+m in rocket league get stomped by gamesir pros
I use 8bitdo. Don't know what the consensus on them but I like to use mine for simplistic and retro games. For triple A sloppa you would obviously want xbox or ps controller.
>>749033894They're very good. There was some spam here about them being creaky and badly made, but I have one and it's tight as a motherfucker.
>>749033894Fine since the Ultimate also use TMR and usually on sale.
Is there any reason to splurge on TMR sticks over hall effects?
>>748996050good morning game saars!but desu the 360, xone or DS4 are all you need
>>749033894The Nintendo switch pro controller form factor hurts my hands, it sucks
>>749034616TMR is a direct upgrade only on paper. A poorly calibrated TMR stick will get mogged by a good HE one. Your question should be about specific models rather than just the tech.
>>749035049For me it's xbox.Just imagine being mostly a nintendo/pc gamer.
>>748996648This is clearly some marketing shit. Kek, DualShock 3 is the greatest controller ever made.
>>748996225PTT buttons.
Almost all gamepads are based on the X360 layout, but it's so bulky and fat. Why can't there be more third-parties modeling after the DualShock 3? It was perfect to me.
>>749013095sticks suck for games on a 2D plane compared to mouse aiming+keyboard
>>749026917You might be autistic
>>749035904third party controllers started to copy dualshock 4's ergonomics because they're simply better
>>748996648what is even the point of all this shit when even "pros" play like this?
>>749008562pic unrelated
>>749003649that was a missed opportunity on their part
>>748996050Why wouldn't I just use an oem controller and an adapter?
>>749030010It will also die when the boss that you tried 100 times was one hit away. Enjoy.
>>749008287picrels were complaining the triggers are too stiff
>>748996648il take the PS2 pad any day over all these gay gamepads
>>749037497All official Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo controllers have a fully intended design weakness where the sticks can start drifting and you have to buy a new controller afterwards.Modern "third party" controllers use hall or TMR sticks which extremly reduce the risk of stick drifts
>>748996050cant play n64
>>749032913>increasingly frustrated first party shill repeats decades old insult for the umpteenth time
>>749037497because they use cheap potentiometers and not TMR sticks you faggot
>>749009435I would have recommended the Retro Fighter Defender Pro but one issue it has is that the sticks somehow uncalibrate themselves during gameplay. Although it's an easy fix to recalibrate by holding 3 buttons. Even though you wouldn't normally use the sticks in fighting games, the issue existing is just why I can't fully recommend it. Also this problem also applies to the analog triggers too.
>>749029608in the trash where it belongs
>>749021959>makes sense for plus to be on the right and minus on the left.He says as he types plus on the left and minus on the right every time
>>748996127retard hands
You have the slightest chance of actually shilling me on this particular chinc crap because somebody actually put the shoulder buttons more than 5mm above the face buttons, and it doesn't have the right joystick way low or the B button falling off the controller like the normal Xbox shape either. But it still has the other ergonomic Hitler of current gen gamepad design with minimal undercut on the back of the grips. (look at any current controller from the side and see how thick it is at the narrowest point compared to 7th gen console controllers)>add trigger locks and back buttons for such a minimal extra cost you can barely justify the older one>but also added one of those satanically loud Xbox Series style d-pads which I do not needI'd also much rather it was hard wired like the DS4 style Lite
>>748996704Is this impopular opinion if I believe the DS4 controller was A tier back then and the DS5 is currently the best controller one can use?Really it just boils down to habits.I don't even have a PS4 or PS5 I literally just bough the controllers because they were fit the best for fighting games.The Saturn controller is also good but once you get used to its layout it really makes it odd whenever you have to switch to either XBOX or DS layout, hence why the retro-bit version modernized it's system.My palms get tired rather fast with an xbox controller also having the analogue stick where the D-pad should which isn't 4 separate buttons is plain autistic, they just designed it this way for the sake of being "different than sony" no practical reason whatsoever.But since it was the only controller with X-input in it back then this is what PC players got used to and now they say it's the best.It's not.
>>749041181based
>>749009435>uses gamepads and a fucking hitboxYou are a retard.
>>748996050Pic related is the real best controller ever made.
>>749043412Wish the c stick was standard size that's my only complaint
>>749028548You just have to revel in the silliness of the name. Like when you start playing a game in the morning with your cup of morning coffee, say GOOD MORNING SAAR when you pick the controller up etc.
>>749041181PS4 is best with the back button attachment. Dual Sense has great rumble but no easy way to add back buttons without spending hundreds of dollars, and the sticks are terrible.
>>748996648An Xbox series X controller is 60$. Id pay 80$ if it's a genuine improvement but how many of these controllers are even at this price range?
I used a wired 360 controller for over a decade and it was easily the best controller I've ever used, outside of maybe a Wii U Pro controller. All the 3rd party shit I've tried pales in comparison.
>>749043412No use for c-stick in 90% of games.
>>748996127Find a flaw.
>>749044136That's not the fault of the controller lmao.
>>749043412The d-pad is too small and generally speaking poor. I really can't use it comfortably for GB/C/A games.
>>749044004flydigi vader 5 pro is $80 MSRP, gamesir g7 pro 8k is $90 MSRP
>>749043412Nintendo really needs to bring it back.
>>749021431WiiU moment.
>>749044264No claw grip.
>>749044795>index on analog stick>thumb on dpad or buttonsWhat are you talking about?
>>749044264Clunky gyro attachment. The smooth shiny finish gets covered in smudges and generally ends up looking gross after use.
>>749043412>useless d-pad>useless right stick>useless Z button>no select button>no L3/R3 eitherPretty much a glorified Dreamcast controller
it's games MAAM
>>749010686oh yeah works just as well as the og, don't make the mistake i did and just get the dock for it too, it's nice to have (and you sadly can't buy it seperately)
>>748996050I literally just ordered this, wtf?? Get out of my walls! And yes, I'm a brown, poor third worlder.
>>748996050symmetrical thumbsticks is just awful, that's I why unironically praise the xbox one controller, an asymmetrical layout is perfect and practical
>>748996648i still have this, just werks, impulse triggers are neat but i can count on one hand the number of games that use them, is there something else that's worth upgrading over this thing?
>>749044953>index on analog stickMight as well shove it up your ass.
ok trannies so what's the best controller for someone who enjoys:>2D metroidvanias with precise inputs (shartsong)>rhythm games like DJmax>3D parryslop (lies of P, sekiro)
>>749047470that's a rock solid budget option i will admit, had the 2.4 version and the triggers sucked ass, the d-pad is also ass but still better then the switch 2 pro
>>749048016Does the Switch 2 Pro even have anything going for it (battery life notwithstanding)?
>>749048249HD rumble 2 and the rubber rings around the sticks, that's basically all it's got, it gets shit slammed by anything once you start talking features
>>749033894they're genuinely assdrops inputs while holding bumpers/triggersdiagonal issues with the dpaddpad getting stuck in the shell due to poor geometrythe centre pivot is poorly placed so flicking left/right up/down gives you unnecessary resistancefacebuttons are loud as fuck that i had to replace with vintage knockoff controller ones wich fixed the problemthey look pretty, but they are the most shilled crap i've ever seen on this website and all the redditor reviews on youtube that can't feel a good dpad if it hit them in the faceeven though I don't like the layout for 2d games the microsoft shitbox controller dpad is lightyears ahead in terms of responsiveness
>>749032913that's actually hori now they've really been fucking up
>>749047981I've been playing pizza tower with the thing from the OP and the d-pad is surprisingly great for a membrane.
>>749019916Tendies like it now
>this is the #1 controller according to gamepadla >it's some homebrew 3d printed bullshit what the fuck is this layout
>>749050182>we need to go wider
>>749050182I see this was designed by a scholar.
>>749050182They basically rank controllers for playing Gaypex and that does look pretty optimized for said use case.
>>748996050no i will not redeem the kind gamesir
>>749050278>>749050327kek
>>749050182Their ranking is based on latency alone and this thing is a DYI gamepad with a shell built around an off the shelf micro computer.
>>749043793i bought a dual sense with tmr sticks already in and so far when it works its an awesome gimmick controller, however as a pc player i have to emphasize the WHEN part cause most pc games either don't support it, or the ones that do are ass and not worth playing>Dual sense edgedual sense edge placement on the chart makes total sense when you realize even fewer pc games support it then the standard, that chart counts pc as a platform and gaystation controllers do not get it easy, the edge i believe has no native pc support still and even taking playing wired cause 3-4 hour battery it's still way too expensive for whats on offer.
I just bought this model to ffx on emulator. It’s decent but it has this bug where the scrolling thing keeps going to the bottom of the menu and I have to fight with it in order to get top menu options sometimes. Everything else is fine
>>749050570Use it with Steam, DS4Windows, or some other controller mapping software. It works for everything unless there is something special about your stick mod that breaks compatibility. I'd say PC has better support for PS5 and 4 controllers than the actual PS5 and 4 since you can bind gyro and the track pad to mouse or keyboard buttons and get meaningful use out of them.
>>749051084noted, albeit my main thing for the ps5 controllers is i want to use the adaptive triggers, albeit i hear even on ps5 support for that is hit or miss
>>749050182https://github.com/SylvesterFPS/Space-Performance-V2-aka-Teensy-4.0-XInput-Controller >only wired USB-C
>>749030896Unironically the best controller I had, it's very robust and the buttons feel nice Also budget friendly, I just bought my bro one last week.
>>748996050Ugly
>>749051259That is one issue where my claim that PC is better supported than the consoles may not be 100% true. I've only tested it out briefly in the one game I have with comparability, but it comes with limitations. You can only use it with games that officially support the controller, which makes sense. However, that also means you have to use the native implementation. After checking to see how it feels, I quickly went back to using it through Steam Input since being able to aim with gyro and having some hotkeys assigned to the trackpad was a high priority. The adaptive triggers do feel really nice though, so it is unfortunate I have to choose between function and fancy triggers.
Is this controller good? I've been interested in it but keep putting off getting it.
>>749039000This sounds pretty good actually, I can just switch to DS5 when I want to use sticks. I've put in an order, thanks!
>>749051971I didn't get that exact model but I had a similar one for a bit. It's roughly comparable to a retrobit controller with a dpad that feels less whack.
>>749051615yeah ds4 means it works anywhere, however i bought the gimmick controller for it's gimmick feature, besides missing the gaystation controller feel, otherwise i woulda just gotten a ds4 with all the features i wanted prebuilt onto it like sticks and back buttons
>>748997259I love mine, but the dock is shit. Already had to call warranty once.
>>749051971It's fine. Kinda mushy D-Pad, and the buttons wobble like crazy in their sockets.I still use it as a main to emulate sega games.
>>749008287It's a dogshit controller with dogshit buttons, dogshit build quality, dogshit sticks, dogshit dpad, dogshit triggers, dogshit everything.It's over 15 years old. The only reason it was any popular is because it was a cheap controller you could use on PC that was marginally better than whatever madcatz garbage you could get in 2010.
>>749053029ngl truke
>>749053029It kind of blows my mind to see that people are still buying it at its current prices. Anything from Gamesir or 8Bitdo utterly rapes them in their price bracket.
>>749030896It's Chinese, so you be the judge, but I got a G7 SE and a Cyclone 2 and they're both great controllers. Most of your alternatives are already Chinese anyway.
Those metal bands around analog sticks, some 8bitdo have them, what are they for? Not shaving off plastic rubbing on plastic?
>>748996050Eh this guy had been good to me for years Also after you get used to concave left and top buttons it's hard to back
>>749053029>>749053029The dpad feels like shit but it's still surprisingly very functional
>>748996648Why is the Saber Plus so high? Honest question, is it because of the price?
>>749055136the fuck is on the sticks? glass?
I recently bought a vader 5 pro v2, what am I in for?
>>749056707shits pretty good all things considered, the C and Z buttons are effectively worthless but aside from that the only issues are with its software, and some tired hands if you leave the 2 extra paddles plugged in, besides that it's pretty much the better version of the elite series 2
>>749056018Is there a reason it shouldn't be high? Aside from what's apparently an afterthought d-pad it seemed solid in all of hardware, software, and price.
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