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>*nom* *nom* *nom* You've got to try this Zoe *nom* it tastes so greeeaaaat
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How does Resonant compare to the original, what's the /v/erdict so far?
I remember the original being neat with the atmosphere/level design, powers and all, didn't ever get around to playing its DLC though.
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If you think you hate Darling, you don’t hate him enough.
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>>749004653
It’s pretty good. Combat is fun, and I like messing around with all the weapon combinations to find stuff that’ll work together. Playing dress up with Dylan is fun too.
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>>749005207
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>>749004653
ubislop open word, boring combat, very cool world design, great visuals, sick sound design, writing is missing sam lake and thus the weird factor, pacing is off

i much prefer 1
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>>749005801
1 was honestly just a bland cover shooter.
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Better than the first.
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Remedy proves once again that they're the best level and environmental designers in the business.
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>>749004653
much better than 1, an actual game
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>that tfw when they crank the Finnish Bring Me The Horizon knockoff
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>>749005207
>>749005668
Crazy they had so many details like this on whiteboards and post-it notes etc but no war to zoom in, so you just have to angle your camera weirdly in the hope of capping it

>>749006540
Speaking of Finland there's something endearing about Remedy's version of America where somehow seeing people with Finnish accents or use its language or bits of Finnish culture is just something that happens every other day or so
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>>749006683
Photo mode will be in a future update.
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>>749007146
AIEEE flashbang alert
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>>749004653
I'm having a blast. People say the combat isn't deep which is kind of true but it's a lot of fun running around spamming abilities and the dodge button.

I like The Physicist the most as boss fights go, but I haven't fought the last one yet. Wish there were more.
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>>749007181
>you'll be hearing from my lawyer about that source you owe me
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>>749007146
>pizza denied
WTF was wrong with this man?
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>>749005207
>>749005668
>>749007078
>>749007146
Jesus Christ.
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This is just Prototype but good so far.
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>>749007358
In his own words:
>He needs to be at the correct level of agitation. Frustrated, angry, sad, hungry, sleep deprived. Look, I don’t care which one it is. Just make it work.
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>they had Dylan on blood thinners
what the fuck
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>>749004653
GOTY, combat needs mods to add depth with weapon swap and others, bosses could have a couple more mechanics to them, but the base game is so good you look past these things thats my opinion on it, nothing this year comes close to how good this is
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>>749005207
>>749005668
>>749007078
>>749007146
Reading this shit along with the documents found in the training area was seriously depressing. It's even worse after the 2D section with kid Dylan and Jesse
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>>749004653
I really haven't gotten very far but the combat is boring me. I am shocked there is a lack of combos in a character action game. The few powers I do have are cool, but so far there is only the 3 light attacks or 3 heavy attacks plus the one finisher. Dynasty Warriors has a deeper combo system than this even if it was just variants of light light heavy or light heavy light light.
I looked through the upgrade tree to see if it gets expanded and it seems that some of the finisher moves get an extra hit but thats it.
I've heard mods can fix it by adding weapon swapping but even if I did that I'd just be getting different flavors of 3 light attacks or 3 heavy attacks in a row without much mixing it up.
Am I missing something here? Because the world and visuals look really fucking cool its just every single combat encounter is beginning and ending the exact same for me.
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>>749004653
Quite different in style and tone but it all meshes well if you take it as the other side of the coin instead of a sequel that furthers the world. What I can say is that it's definitely very different in how it approaches combat. It's not deep by any means, especially if you expect something like DMC, but the fun comes from how dynamic it can get with both the environment and how you combine your combat abilities.
The enemies might seem a tad spongy at first, but it's so you get smart with how you move around and how you stack different buffs. It really makes you think about who to prioritize, and you do all these split second decisions that keep it engaging. The problem is that it takes around 7-ish hours for you to find a groove with some of the moves and abilities, but the world to me was so fun to traverse and explore that it didn't really hinder my experience.
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>>749009382
Never have I wanted to give a character a hug as much as him, man
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>>749004089
A friend on Steam told me that the reason why Dylan can fight the Hedron at all is because the Hedron was "gestating" into an anti-Hiss form, so Dylan basically punched a cocoon/a guy pregnant with himself instead of the normal Hedron that just bodied him and Jesse outside reality. Does anyone actually say that in the game? Can't remember anything like that coming up.

>>749004653
I miss guns. Throwing shit/Mold turrets eventually solve the aggravatingly puny melee, but it was nowhere near as frustrating as just shooting something.
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>>749009675
>The few powers I do have are cool, but so far there is only the 3 light attacks or 3 heavy attacks plus the one finisher.
The depth comes from the powers and how you intergrate them into the melee combat flow and all the rpg effects you unlock on all the various skill trees. Its more of an action rpg than a pure action game
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>>749007146
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>>749004653
I enjoyed them both and was skeptical about Resonant but it turned out great. I think Resonant has a much better upgrade system than the first randomly shitting out mods that do barely anything
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>>749009991
>Its more of an action rpg than a pure action game
See that sucks because I was expecting to be able to style on enemies like you can in Devil May Cry. But if the player expression comes from pressing 1 or 2 or 3 at times is all there is I might be out.
I wasn't expecting shit to be on the level of Bayonetta or anything, but if all melee combos are a literal button mashing with one dodge attack, then the combat is extremely shallow.
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If they do a sequel I think the obvious progression is the siblings being able to merge into one 'being' again and combat involves shifting between the two for melee and ranged attacks
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>>749010219
You can still style, but you have to work for it a lot harder. Some weapons and abilities synergize with each other better than others, and taking advantage of those synergies makes combat a lot more fun.
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>>749010370
I hope they solve the Hiss decisively someday. If a goofball like Alan can kill off the Dark Presence (more or less) at the end of AW2, Jesse Dylan Faden should be able to wreck the Hiss.
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>>749010370
>>749010428
What if they end up becoming Dylan Jesse Faden instead?
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my blast having time kinda flattened after I discovered task boards and decided to complete all of them for completeness sake
The escort missions should not be there.
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So this game is good?
I'm not seeing any heavy slander against this game, unlike Wolverine.
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I've been having a blast with claude and I'm about to have him make me something that could be a total game-changer besides the mod I already made that's a game-changer
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>>749004653
Resonant has better boss battles.
Control has better everything else. Better protag, less ugly NPCs, better trash encounters, better backrooms vibes.
Honestly I'm kind of shocked they made Resonant a "Focus, M" ubisoft towers game.
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>>749010519
Why would someone decide to make a bad game?
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>>749007146
>not allowed to meet us
RIP
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>>749010519
I’m having a fun time with it so far, and that’s more than I can say about Wolverine
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>>749010428
The ending of this pretty much implies that the hiss has been neutered by the patterning and even when the barrier drops it won't be that much of a threat to the rest of the world. Also that the Hiss that Dylan has inside of him seems to be basically 'patterned by him' - so really under his control.

I could see another point of difference between him and Jesse now also being Jesse having Hedron powers through Polaris in her, whereas Dylan has Hiss powers. So that'll be in their movesets too if they become a single character
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>>749010646
Notice how you didn’t show Jesse’s disgusting face.
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Now that the dust has settled, who the FUCK is the computer?
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>>749010829
Sorry she still has my cum on her huge chin, give me a moment
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>>749010942
me
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>>749010646
Why would you lie so blatantly? Do you even know what Focus M means?
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>>749010829
Correct. I prefer her ass
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>>749011004
I didnt know what it means but from context I assume its occasionally having an ally speak to you on the radio so the game feels less lonely and you dont need to always go to a specific place to receive or return a mission, you can just report it on the radio to the ally
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>>749009925
>basically punched a cocoon
The pattern walls are the cocoon, post game dialogs said Manhattan is like the hedron are making something to counter another being at the edge of the dimension
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>>749010995
Stop all the downloading
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>>749011004
It means instead of looking at what's going on in the world you've got a bitch in your ear constantly telling you what you're seeing. It's awful.
"Okay Dylan go and find the factory"
"Looks like you found the factory Dylan now try to find a way inside"
"Good job Dylan you made it inside the factory"
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>>749011239
>90% of it is optional and started by the player
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>oh cool now the Hedron is defeated and the barrier is fading, Manhattan will return to what it was, right?
>Lol no it's stuck like this forever
Kind of a funny thing to make clear
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>>749011285
I think it makes sense for a scifi thing
you can imagine the change required some sort of energy to do work, and after the energy source disappeared theres a time delay to reality to force things back
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>>749011281
>If you don't like bad dialogue then don't talk to NPCs
>It's your fault for playing the game the way the devs obviously intended you to play
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>>749011043
It doesn’t. It’s a very specific type of AAA writing style that makes it clear the writer is embarrassed by having to work on this game, and having an annoying character that tells you exactly what to do like you’re a toddler. Think of Wolverine as an example. That game also has radio banter, but it’s much closer to Focus M because of how patronizing and irony poisoned the dialogue is. Control Resonant basically tells you from the get go that Zoe isn’t here to walk you through the process of wiping your ass, and that you need to figure puzzles out on your own.
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>>749011037
What ass? There’s nothing there.
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>>749011418
Would you prefer they give you no option at all? Cuck faggot
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>>749010825
I interpreted the ending as the Patterning still being there, just no longer replicating indefinitely, but the Hiss being unresolved since there's still shit to do in New Game+. And I mean, I expected the Hiss to be more or less neutered after Control 1 but they adapted.
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>>749011239
>Zoe
>annoying
Way to make it clear you have shit taste.
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>>749011063
Any indication whether or not the other threat is just more Hiss?
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>>749011239
>"Okay Dylan go and find the factory"
>"Looks like you found the factory Dylan now try to find a way inside"
>"Good job Dylan you made it inside the factory"
None of this is ever said. Usuallly Dylan points out that he notices something weird, Zoe acknowledges it and then Dylan on his own decides to investigate it. You didn't even have to phone in Zoe when you notice something you the player has chosen to this and then bitch about it
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Every time someone mentions wolverine in a discussion about completely different games and genres this pic comes to mind for some reason
No I didnt play wolverine, its a superhero games for 12y olds. You didnt play wolverine since you browse a website for adults. Stop talking about wolverine.
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>>749010829
>Jesse’s disgusting face.
why are u gay?
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>>749010942
Someone from the Blessed Organization.
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>>749011573
Post the actual model from the game.
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>>749010942
The Former
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>>749011573
would've been nice if she looked like that in game 1
they kinda fucked up the faces and lipsync but its a budge title and thats common
In game 2 they fixed the face, the original model was bogged anyway and couldnt really use that, still the lipsync is kinda bad here too since they're not doing heavy amounts of face scans.
But man, jesses hair and clothes look weird now.
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>>749011573
The problem is the in-game model has a much more severe case of uggo than the IRL VA, same problem with Freya and her VA in nu-God of War.
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>>749011678
She looked so hot in quantum break but red hair is better
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< Hello everyone/faggots >
< I am enjoying/observing this thread >
< Please continue to write/shitpost about the game/experiment >
< It is a lot of fun/pain to read about Jesse/Director/Chin >
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>>749011996
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>>749011996
>holds down left d pad to skip
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>>749011996
They call her the Crimson Chin.
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>>749012205
NEGA CHIN
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>>749012238
That’s esseJ
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>>749012301
>He bought?
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>>749012301
I still don't understand the fit. Why? I can't find a good shot of the pants but they look so big on her
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>>749012480
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>>749011858
What the fuck, Dylan's actor is in Quantum Break? I don't remember that at all.
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>>749010829
I'm not looking at the face brudda
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>>749012480
This outfit was peak
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>>749012480
Its what they had in the bureau. Would be funny if she's wearing one of Emily's spares
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>>749012495
>>749012772
>Its what they had in the bureau.
I was joking about this but looking closer that might literally be the case, kek. Isn't the jacket she's wearing a similar one to the one Marshall had?
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>>749011427
I'd argue Resonant's writing is just as grating as Focus M, because the writers overused a particular style of exchange where Dylan reports back to Zoe with this quiver and infection in his voice like he's about to tell her that her dog is dead.
>Uhm, Zoe?
>What is it. Dylan.
>I found... bodies. Lots
>What? Fuck! I'll file a report with the FBC for recovery. Keep your eyes peeled Dylan, whatever killed them might still be around.
>O-okay.
It's so emasculating.
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>>749012881
He talks just like you
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>>749012881
I agree that approach to a few of those scenes could be changed
I dont get much out of zoe responding with "Im professionally sad people died"
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>>749012480
I think they were going for a combination of executive suit (those pant creases would make a father proud) and action wear with the jacket and the hair do.

It initially seemed a bit goofy but seeing how well the individual pieces represented her made me appreciate it more
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>>749012881
You can really feel Same Lakes absence. If he'd been involved Dylan would be schizo monologuing like his sister or having a back and forth with an imaginary Darling who never talks back. Now that'd be fun.
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I think the writing was actually pretty mature in having Darling drop the quirk Chungus and show us actually all the shit he did with Dylan that we know he's done since the first game. BUT also managing to thread a needle of showing that while he has some reasons (pressure from Trench going insane, his own childhood seemingly being similarly abusive if only in intent morseo than scale), he still acknowledges at the end that while what he did is wrong, he won't apologise for it and he was right in doing it. They could've easily had it end with him begging for forgiveness and saying how much he regretted it all, but he doesn't.

I guess it makes the mind and spirit rape he's currently getting in the Dark Place feel a bit more justified.
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>the board's groan sound like a cheering WWE fan every time you kick ass in a fight
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>>749013243
Sounds like he's saying a racial slur to me
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>>749012818
>>749012772
yeah, it's definitely on purpose. The combination of the executive pants and a jacket very similar to Marshal's to have a "Director on field duty" look
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>>749013274
they really had terrible dei designs in c1
thankfully people dont look offensively bad in c2
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>>749012548
Absolutely BOGGED
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>>749012969
kek
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>>749013101
Jesse doesn’t have schizo dialogue, she’s just incredibly boring.
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>>749007078
>Use bathroom only as scheduled
damn, they were seriously not letting him wank. No wonder he was angry.
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>>749013148
He also saved a lot of lives with his HRAs in the first game. Love him or hate him, he’s still a morally complex character at the end of the day.
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>>749007078
>listen to only Beetles
KILL DARLING
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>>749004653
I think the day 1 patch has kinda ruined the game since it made it so you don't have to actually engage with the combat gameplay and faceroll everything.
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>>749007146
>no pizza
BEAT DARLING WITH HAMMERS
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>>749013515
You can still fiddle with the Assist settings to make the game harder.
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>>749013490
What’s wrong with The Beetles?
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>>749013515
I wonder how much the journo reviewers who prompted the combat changes in the day one patch actually interfaced with the buff juggling and power/melee integration that I think the game wants you to do over a DMC styled combo system
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>>749013274
>>749013310
She showed up for like two scenes, and immediately died off screen.
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>>749013243
>COMBO
>ALLLL-EYYYY OOOPPP
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>>749013589
Nothing its the only part that's the problem
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>>749013605
I made a mod that let's you tweak some stuff to have a little more fun with the combat. I'm working on something potentially HUGE now
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>>749012498
He's not, that's the guy who played ice man in the x-men movies. CIA is also in it.
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>>749012480
>I still don't understand the fit. Why?
I think she's supposed to look like Amelia Earhart, a female pilot who mysteriously vanished while circumnavigating the globe.
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Darling was getting free commissions off Dylan
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>>749013651
It says 'any' bro.
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I miss Trench so much it's unreal.
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>>749013665
He's talking about the guy in the back, Nick who is also played by Sean Durrie
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>>749013529
dylan haet piza
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>>749013703
They will probably have you play as him in the 3rd game
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>>749013741
how will future games be funded with AI taking over
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>>749013703
>>749013741
Control 3 where you play as northmoor but you kill yourself as soon as the prologue ends
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>>749013760
not really my concern
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>>749012498
The first choice you make as littlefinger determines which normie helper tags along on your mission. If I remember right, something like 70% of people picked the option that spares the chick from getting murdered, so she follows you to the swimming pool.
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>>749013741
I think his actor dying means he's basically only going to appear as mentions or text from now on, like in Resonant
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>>749013605
You can still do some DMC combos too. The training room exists for a reason.
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>>749013857
Oh I wasn't aware he died
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>>749012498
Yeah Nick Marsters. People kinda miss getting him because he's one of the two possible companions in the game but it requires to kill the woman in the first major choice you make as Serene
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>>749013741
Anon…
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>>749013681
Thankfully, Jesse wasn’t eaten by coconut crabs.
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>>749013878
He's also so much better than the female companion and wins the lottery in the end
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>>749013874
Yeah. James McCaffrey passed away 3 years ago. He also voiced Max Payne, and the Max Payne stand in from the Alan Wake series, Alex Casey.
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>>749013857
Damn he died. When?
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>use Ignite
>summon Volatile anomaly
>Volatile anomaly now does fire attacks
fuck Mold niggers
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>>749013975
makes me wonder who will be voicing Max in the remake or did they already record everything or the third option of using the original dialogue as a tribute to him.
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>>749004653
I beat it and liked it but I really miss a lot of the weird shit from Control. The Motel, shit like the clocks area, weird Altered Items like the rubber duck, the Astral Plane, The Former, The Board having a role beyond just being comic relief, etc.
I don't think lacking this stuff is inherently bad, but the game is a lot more "normal" when I came for weirdness.
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>>749013991
>>749013975
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Are there even threshold kids episodes in this? If so, my dumb ass never found any.
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>>749004089
I got these maple brown sugar Hawaiian buns and I imagine it tastes like those. But toasted.
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>>749014085
Nah he died midway through the development of the Alan Wake 2 dlc so they had to scrap it.

It's very likely they'll just reuse the voice lines though I wouldn't put it past Rockstar helping Remedy to find a guy who sounds just like him
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>>749014130
Nah just a mention from Dylan
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>>749014085
And Casey, since he’s going to be getting a bigger role in Alan Wake 3.
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>>749014184
It really makes the decision to make Saga more important than Casey, and have him say she’s better than him all the more bitter. His final role was completely wasted, and it can never be taken back.
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>>749004653
>what if Remedy makes their own Prototype
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>>749014085
>>749014184
They replaced Alice after her VA died, so they’ll probably replace McCaffrey too.
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>>749014425
I forgot his name but the replacement for Lance Reddick was on point.
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>>749014425
>Brett Madden died after 4 year battle with brain cancer
damn
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>>749014425
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>>749014480
Keith David replaced him in Destiny 2.
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tried doing shum games and they are either really annoying or tedius to replay for the high score
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I should probably give Alan Wake 2 another chance. I did not enjoy the detective board mechanic when I first tried it, game was just too slow.
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>>749014093
yeah, it really lacked the weirdness and the idiosyncrasies that comes with Sam Lake's writing. Beat it yesterday without seeing anything about the production and credits and although I really liked it was obviously missing his touch so I wasn't surprised when I saw in the credits he didn't write it or do anything on it in any important creative capacity
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>>749014624
The Saga segments suck, and are completely boring. Alan has all the cool sections, since he’s trapped the Dark Place, and can write things in and out of reality instead of playing True Detective.
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>>749014681
I wouldn't say her segments suck but are vastly overshadowed by Alan sections, Dark New York is just so fucking cool and atmospheric
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>>749014681
My only complaint with saga is the mind palace stuff being a chore. Besides that her segments are just as good as Alan's

Plus both Watery and Bright Falls are gorgeous
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I picked knife ha.mer and scythe did i fuck up
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>>749014725
>>749014806
They suck because Saga just isn’t an interesting character. Alan feels like he’s a bit more 2 dimensional than he was in the first game too, but Saga just doesn’t have anything going for her as a character. There’s no reason to care about her, her husband, or her daughter, and at best she feels like a side character in what should have been Casey’s story. Every time it was time to switch over to her, I just wanted to keep playing as Alan.
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>>749014813
No. If you don’t like them, you can always get the other weapons later on.
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>>749014813
Respeccing is easy, but I used that combo for the whole game and it was fine
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>>749014725
I felt the opposite, she had actual stakes and a ticking clock element going on, and the detective board mechanic reminded me of Ace Attorney Investigations. Wake was just sad cuz like he couldn't write his Garth Marenghi trash anymore.
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>>749014813
The hammer is dope as tits.
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>>749014891
Maybe McCaffrey just wasn’t up for the voice work because of his poor health. He had multiple myeloma, which is why he passed away at only 65.
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>>749015094
How? There’s no urgency in her storyline whatsoever.
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What is Dino Fang from?
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Found a TV with Alan Wake on it talking about "The Scratcher" , another escape attempt?
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>>749010474
>escort missions
Ranger or firebreak ? Because ranger escort is easy as fuck. Fuck the mold firebreak mission before the patch though, hardest mission in the game

>>749011515
Nope
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Is Resonant still about the FBC like control is or is the focus elsewhere?
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>>749015158
Did you play the fucking game? I'm not going to explain it to you.
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>>749015348
The FBC is constantly present around you, you basically work for them.
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>>749015348
You're like shinji working for nerv in evangelion with abusive dad figure and all
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>>749015303
Might be a set up for a future game.
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>>749014891
Saga has what is probably the next big Remedy game villain and Thor in her lineage, and still somehow manages to be more boring than a literal in-universe expy of Max Payne.

It's the perfect metaphor for nu-Remedy vs old Remedy.
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>>749015368
I did, and I didn’t like anything about her campaign. There’s no urgency because I don’t care about Saga or her family, and there’s no reason to care about them. Alan easily had the best moments, and there’s no arguing that.
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>>749015303
I took it as a trailer for a future game/DLC, they killed off the Dark Presence pretty conclusively so I guess they'd have to pull some real bullshit to make Scratch be a thing. Or maybe it'll be another What If? like Night Springs.
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My God does Control look awful compared to Resonant. is there a way to turn off the post processing matrix/piss/battlefield 3 metro-tier color filter?
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>>749015562
I think the better question is why are you playing at 720p
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>>749015491
Nu-Remedy at least has Dylan. I liked the writing for him in Resonant, and I liked seeing him go from a plot device to an actual character.
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>>749015524
Zane and Darling are still alive in the Dark Place.
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>>749015094
i refuse to play aw2 specifically because of the woke dei inserted nig femoid """fbi agent""" character
no i dont care if that makes me racist, i gladly embrace the title
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Below average white male
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>only good looking outfits are DLC
Glad I pirated this shit.
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>>749004089
>bought Gears of War instead of Control
I've made a mistake
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>>749014013
>not interested in playing pokemon master with summons
>avoid summon abilities
>literally the ENTIRE LAST THIRD of the talent tree is ALL about summons and 'command charges' whatever that fuck that is
sure is fun to have nothing to spend my talent points on halfway through the game
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>>749015786
There's entire other half of the tree on the left about ignite, inferno shield and a bunch of other effects
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>>749015725
Saga was supposed to be a white woman, but honestly she would’ve still been incredibly boring even if she was. The whole game feels like step down in narrative quality compared to AW1.
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>>749015786
the talent tree command charge stuff felt off
You get the ability from defeating a boss that might be the last thing you do before entering game end sequence, but you look at those talents for many hours just sitting there taking a lot of space with "you dont know this ability"
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>>749015786
I think the mold turrets are the better ability, I think the devs did too
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>>749015514
>There's no urgency cuz I'm trying to fit in.
And there we have it.
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>>749015821
yeah
i got all those already. im talking about the last 3rd of the talent tree, learn to read.
literally all of it has to do with command charges. my sole consolation is that since im never using them since i dont give a shit about summons
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>>749015774
I liked the one I put together. >>749005463
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>>749015725
Wow, what a channer. Can anyone say, baste?
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>>749015872
Yeah I think we all felt this. I did the final patterning boss right before the end and the ability was basically useless.
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>>749015832
At that point I just took the skill tree on the left.
+5% damage for every unused command ability point. so for me that was +20%
Also making dominance last 15 seconds is nice.
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>>749015872
You said you're halfway through the game man so I assumed you weren't up to the final 3rd of three yet
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>>749015862
Then explain to me why I should feel urgency for a character I don’t care about. I felt more urgency for Jesse and Dylan than I ever did for Saga.
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>>749015843
you're literally mathematically wrong when you can, for almost no power, shoot a volley of mold bullets from your arm, inflict the status effect on anything in the game, then instantly blow them up by pressing the fire blast ability whose name is escaping me right now

>>749015825
would have been better if it was a white woman. i mean in an ideal world the character owuldnt have existed at all, period, in any form, but a white woman is better than a black woman; at least a white woman has a chance of actually being smart enough to weasel her way into the fbi using nepotism. i cannot take any of the following characters seriously in any context:
>female in a 'science' or intellectual role
>black person (male or female) in a science or intellectual role
they literally do not fucking exist in real life for a very good reason and its instantly immersion breaking when DEI devs shove them into games. another good example is that physicist woman in the underpass. melanie grist or something. followed the tapes and shit around finally find her and shes literally a sheboon gorilla with a fucking afro, disgusting
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>>749015696
Zane is a weird one, didn't one of the other games say he eventually settled down somewhere in the Dark Place with his wife?

>>749015597
I don't like Dylan's writing in Resonant all that much, feels like the game isn't as good with balancing the lighthearted with the serious as Control 1 so sometimes his issues feel underplayed, but I definitely like him better than Saga at least.

Saga was just there, but arbitrarily important due to being related to more interesting characters to justify her having deux ex machine powers to move her from plot point to plot point.
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>>749015786
>>749015832
You can tell the team’s favorite DMC character was V.
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>>749015971
im probably ahead on talent points because i generally completionist each zone before moving on, at least up until the reset when you beat the resonant
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>>749015986
What are you even spending your upgrade points on? abilities you won't use?
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What the fuck was the point of the taxi quest. what a fucking waste of time with no pay off.
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>>749016018
listen i liked V from a narrative standpoint and because if i didnt feel like trying at all, i could pick him and just button mash and get auto SSS, but im not going to sit here and pretend that the little twink bastard's gameplay had any nuance at all
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>>749005207
>lecture + test on ethics
>loud room
>>749005668
>see a picture
>knife
>bubbles
>smell something
>>749007078
>simulated purchase of item
>>749007146
>only granted thicker pillow
Holy shit this is terrible but also fucking hilarious
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>>749015786
>>749015872
Reminds me of the exact moment I realised in Control 1 that nothing in the game would ever be as good as floating and hurling shit or the base gun. It's a shame, some of the gun ideas are decent on paper but just fall behind the base gun due to scaling. The rocket launcher is fun, but it fucking blows up in your face which gets less convenient the faster and more sudden the Hiss ambushes become.
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>>749016049
cut content?
I feel it had to have more going on besides find the pattern and a phone discussion
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>>749016048
im at the point where there are literally ZERO talents which give me any benefit, either because they use command charges (which i dont care about and dont have) or because theyre for abilities i dont have since i picked the other options. i pretty much just randomly spend them willy nilly since theres no point to any more talent points i get
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>>749015774
You reminded me that this game has cosmetic dlcs
I just unlocked it with the creaminstaller
do I look better now
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>>749016120
Ahhh.. He's smiling!
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>>749016051
This but also I cannot forgive him for giving Vergil one more chance at life after all the shit he pulled instead of justly letting him die a failure.

Nobody fucking cares though because the DMC fanbase has universally decided Vergil aura farming was totally worth murdering people for his cancer tree.
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>>749016081
yeah but the difference is that in control one at least project was a fucking incredibly satisfying ability to use. they juist somehow got the momentum and THONK of it just right i never got tired of throwing rocks and rubble.
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>>749015986
Being white wouldn’t have saved Saga from being a bland character. Ideally, Casey would’ve been the second protagonist.
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>>749016138
the dmc fanbase are pretty much universally glue sniffers, to be fair
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>>749016153
thtas why i said in an ideal world saga wouldnt have existed at all in that game
but if she MUST exist
at least dont insult my fucking intelligence by trying to pretend that a black female is in the god damn fbi, let alone some super ultra mega detective
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>>749016005
No. He’s still trying to get out of the Dark Place.
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How old is he mentally?
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>>749016056
I’m sure Darling thought it was funny too. Dylan was his Abuse Goblin that he could take all of his own daddy issues out on.
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>>749016253
probably 15 or 16 or so
most cases of arrested development end up about there
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>>749016253
Shinji.
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>>749015303
Either an earlier escape attempt before the events of AW2, or him making an attempt to find Alice since a version of Alex Casey is with him, and he wouldn't be trying to get out again without Alice.
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>>749015594
the webm is at 720p because of filesize limits
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>>749015747
I see remedy went to the fallout institute school of worst armor design.
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>>749005668
A knife is a reward? Did Darling want to him kill someone or kill himself?
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>>749005207
I mean I fully understand why he did what he did.
He knew Trench was compromised and something that could circumvent the Board and corrupt the head of the FBC is fucking bad.
Darling had to do whatever he could to ready the world to combat whatever that thread could be.

That's why he should get a medal, before being shot in the head.
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>>749016421
you ever played with a butterfly knife? it's kinda fun I guess
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>>749016051
Keep struggling.
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>>749012480
Wearing the same jacket as Helen in the first game.
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>>749016120
Does the main character have autism. He looks like his name should be timmy
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>>749016595
Stunted growth from years of isolation, abuse, some possession, and then a coma. So in a way, it's like inflicted autism.
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>>749016005
I don’t know. I just found him really endearing in this game. He’s remorseful for his actions, and wants to do everything that he can to help save people, even if that means being forced to work for the FBC, but he’s also not afraid of disobeying orders and lying if he thinks it’ll save lives too, even if it’d jeopardize his own life if the truth ever got out. He also gets more and more of his spine back, and learns to stand up for himself. It even genuinely shocked me when he told Emily there was nothing she could possibly do to make up for all the years he was locked away and tortured. His little drawings were cute too.
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>>749013243
>The board mongolian throat sings if you stay in the gap long enough
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>>749016595
The result of getting kidnapped, literally, by a secret government agency, getting raised/abused/trained by a bunch of highly unethical scientists and soldiers inside a stone building with no outside contact or anything resembling a normal life.
Also 90% chance is result of a single person sipliting in two thanks to a supernatural force
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>>749016443
I don’t think a bullet can do much to him right now. Being a Resonant Entity in the Dark Place and all.
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>>749016650
It just didn't hit for me because of how he can go from borderline sobbing to cheerfully distracted on a sidequest. I think Dylan would've benefited from an internal monologue like what Jesse had in Control 1, though.
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>>749016650
you missed the part where he didnt take any actions. at no point did dylan voluntarily kill anyone or let the hiss in or do ANY OF IT. he is literally innocent and the entirety of the FBC gives him endless shit for something that wasnt his fault and worst of all, he has severe stockholm syndrome to the point where he thinks hes somehow responsible for the hiss. hes not.

hes a little boy who was kidnapped, thrown in a cell, tormented and experimented on for near his whole life. the FBC are the villains of the story, especially that cunt doctor darling
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>>749010519
this game is so aggressively mid nobody even bothers with criticizing it.
i really wanted to like it but in almost every aspect its so much worse than c1
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>>749016683
Can someone explain to me what a Resonant Entity is in the context of Darling? I didn't play AW2 very far
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Where were you when Jesse is Dylan

I was sat in chair eating a cookie

"jesse become dylan"

"no"
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>>749016856
would you fuck dylan if he was jesse? Philosophers emerge
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>>749010519
its pretty good. its not masterpiece, lets be clear, but in an era of eternal fucking slop i give it an 8/10, maybe 7.5 if im being super critical.
>>749016808
nah dylan is a better character than jesse ever was. the only way resonant loses to control 1 is in the fact that the oldest house is WAY more interesting as a setting and project is a billion times better in 1
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>>749016736
He still killed Roberts, Carla, and about 15 other researchers. As we know from the tapes and notes, a few of the researchers were sympathetic towards Dylan, and tried to get him better treatment, and there’s a possibility that he could’ve killed them too. Trench is responsible for the other 300 or so deaths because he let the Hiss in, but Dylan has blood on his hands too.
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Level 11 Downtown gets you pic related: mullet and glasses.
Are the other zone outfits worth unlocking?
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>>749005207
I need someone to do mspaint art of the self-reflection helmet
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>>749016856
Jesse isn’t Dylan and Dylan isn’t Jesse. They’re two halves of Jesse Dylan Faden. That’s why even though they have similarities, they’re also polar opposites in a lot of ways.
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>>749010519
>So this game is good?
Yeah, it's good, but not because everything else is garbage, like >>749016915 claims.
Even by itself, it's still a decent experience and a good sequel to the first game.
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I think the combat system is kinda jank and cycling status ailments and debuffs isn't that interesting especially when the controls are very restrictive.
For example, you have all these abilities on the shoulder buttons, but why can't you charge them while attacking? Like doing your combo while holding a barrage and releasing it after it ends.
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>>749017210
It’s a bit bare bones, but it’s also their first time trying a combat system like this.
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>>749016915
if you like to be leashed by woman with authority, then maybe.
its a "humiliation ritual" the character.
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They should stop making mediocre TPS and make more Prototype clone like this
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How are they going to deal with the Mold? I don’t think it was mentioned at all in the post-game, unless it’s being left for DLC?
Also I’m missing a bunch of Darling tapes, are they in NG+?
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>>749016975
He genuinely fucked Roberts up.
>CASE 45-HQ-121
>CASE SUMMARY:
>Agent killed during [REDACTED] involving [REDACTED] [REDACTED] code name P6.
>AUTOPSY FINDINGS:
>I. Blunt force injuries of the head and neck
>Il. Extensive trauma of the abdominal region:
>a. Lacerations and contusions of the upper and lower torso
>b. Fracture of the spinal cord between the L1 and L2 vertebrae
>c. Avulsion fracture of the 3rd through 10th ribs, left and right
>III. Blunt force injuries of the extremities:
>a. Abrasions, lacerations, and contusions of the extremities
>b. Dislocation of left and right elbow
>c. Dislocation of left and right knee
>CONCLUSION:
>After examination, it was determined that the cause of death was internal bleeding that occurred when the [REDACTED] was contorted through his [REDACTED].
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If you aren't supposed to eat the mold then why make it so delicious?
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>>749017406
The mold itself was making itself irresistible
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>>749017387
a prisoner hurting his captors is not a bad thing anon
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>>749017379
They’ll get around to it.
Eventually.
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>>749017437
Did it put makeup on and a thong?
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>>749017447
Depends on why the prisoner was captured.
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>>749017447
This goes way beyond "hurt".
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>>749017379
They just have to file some paperwork before they get to that
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>>749017473
no, it just did a silly little dance
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>>749017379
Underhill is going to deal with it later. Even if you have her arrested Zoe calls you and says she escaped later. It will probably be the big villain in the next game with the notmother. When you find the half mutated Cindy she says the same shit that Dylan did when he ate the mold.
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>>749017504
They were physically and mentally abusing a child with no understanding or control ha over his powers, it’s entirely the FBC’s fault
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>>749017542
I want her so badly bros
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>>749017546
That doesn’t give him the right to snap people in half and shove them into air vents, or turn researchers into a fine red mist. Dylan is conflict avoidant by nature, so of course he’d feel bad for this stuff.
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>>749017601
likewise
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>>749004089
Me with Zoe pussy
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>>749017747
>>749017601
all Remedy women deserve my dick
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Dont know how to "solve" this on west incursion
If i jump on this patch it generates another one on a different plane i cant jump to
There is no time to go find a gravity anomaly to align myself to the patch it created to jump to
What am i missing? tyty
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>>749017601
Emily...
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>>749014813
yeah scythe fucking sucks, I chose it too, daggers have similar damage except like 1.5x faster and have huge crit chance
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>>749017747
I notice a tattoo, yikes.
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>>749017793
I don't think those go anywhere.
I think they just want the one platform to disappear, but have it go sideways to justify it.
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IT’S IN MY NATURE
I’M A HELL RAISER
TILL THE BITTER END
I FIGHT FOR CONTROL

WE GO TO WAR
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Why are all sidequests such nothingburgers?
it's as if Remedy was afraid of hiding story/gameplay-relevant mechanics behind optional objectives. There is literally nothing of note happening in any sidequests
>taxi leads nowhere
>camera, karaoke, subwoofers are just altered item hunts
>one of the twins turns into a mold host
>underhill resigns and allegedly fucks off to fight the mold with her own methods but you don't get to see any of this
They're all very underwhelming compared to Janny work in Control 1, even the FBC containment quests had more effort put into them and they were entirely optional.
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>>749017821
Scythe is the best weapon. It hits far and wide and builds power like nobody's business. It's also great for hitting flying enemies because he actually aims it up unlike the fuckass other two weapons where he lifts enemies then keeps comboing on the ground.,
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>>749018049
SAM LAKE HIRE THIS MAN
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>>749018010
most of it was a fun time to do, exploration and movement mechanics are fine
the text snippets they provide is interesting enough
when you see people they have somewhat understandable behavior and things to say

Taxi stuff was the only true "was this even finished?" line.
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>>749017954
i used one to reach one of the camera freezing thingies so i thought all of those might go somewhere but i just found a second one that i couldnt make sense of
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>>749010942
it's trench
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>>749018010
The Taxi, the bunker dude and the twin mold are basically representation of what the twins relationship towards one and another.
Taxi = Them being separated and both determination making sure that they'll meet once again. Being seperated after FBC landed to Ordinary.
Mold Twins = Jesse when she finds Dylan. But has to confront the reality that Dylan isn't what he used to be because he got mindcontrolled by the hiss.
Bunker quest = Dylan wanting and missing Jesse, but being isolated he started to think that she just died out there and she'll never come to meet him once again.
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>>749018049
thank you claude
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>>749017784
true
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>>749018010
I had a strong sense this game was made on a budget and the budget was invested in a handful of set-pieces and making the foundational game with its systems and base visuals.

Most of the the side quests were all ass and economical. They tried to mask it by making some of the main quest hide in the side quests-category. (Sometimes I couldn't progress the main and the game expects you to tick off a specific side quest first. It's really bad at communicating this, however, and it made me stuck in a way that I had to google)
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>>749018305
what side quest you needed to google?
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>>749016253
Yes.
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>>749018305
It's very clear to anyone with eyes this was a budget game meant to create assets for their future games. It's the RE8 of Remedy games. Doesn't mean it's bad, I think it was worth the money
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>>749004089
Do I have to play the first game to understand the story?
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>>749018146
HIRE ME
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>>749018531
No but you should play it because it's actually good
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>>749018531
you probably want to finish all aw1, control1, aw2 before hopping to this
Part of the charm is the world they're building, and some of those games have their narrative high points that do things better than resonant
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>>749018346
I needed to have a traverse ability to progress. I ran in circles for hours partly because I didn't understand what the fuck the game was trying to make me do.
Suddenly the characters focused their attention on those wave-y spheres that were covering the entire NY map from the very start, and imo they were not clear enough about it, because you become blind to them if you can ignore them for tens of hours already, and up until that moment, every jump from one platform to another was doable with the regular jumping mechanics.
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>locked all the cool outfits behind regional preorder bullshit for some reason
Gay
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>>749018597
I had the mold boss require an ability from a jesse fault, but they also talked about where I should do to get it. I think I did the fault you needed organically without guidance.
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>>749016820
Hedron/Polaris was instructing Darling how to make HRAs and informed him about "something bad" (Hiss) coming. He then gets naked and somehow is teleported either into the Dark Place or some dimension in-between.
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>>749018653
I think what made me angry about my situation is that the problem emerged while being neck deep in that main quest, so my brain is scrambling to find solutions within that playing field and it doesn't expect that I have to drop everything and go to another playground instead. Was genuinely fucking pissed.
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>>749018867
Jesses faults are a main quest tho
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>>749018517
>this was a budget game meant to create assets for their future games
I've been saying this for the last couple threads. Most of the NYC assets in Resonant have already been used for the Dark Place in AW2 and will be used again for the Max Payne remake, some areas are even 1:1 remakes, like Roscoe Street Station lookalike you go through to get from Downtown to Central. All the Oldest House assets have already been featured in some capacity, either in Firebreak or the original Control. Some anon also mentioned how some of the of hiss enemy designs are also straight out of Firebreak. It's all carefully planned to be as economical as possible, but fuck man, I would have really liked some better sidequests.
>>749018305
>budget was invested in a handful of set-pieces
yeah, pretty much. they had a handful of environment ideas that they stuck to and everything else is filler. This would have been less obvious if they made the game max 20-30 hours long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJA5iTUEVs - the Resonant "Teaser" from the lake house aw2 DLC is solid enough evidence of this, IMHO
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>>749018301
To this day I am still buttmad there's no Re-tier outfit modding for Alan Wake 2
Imagine Saga's fat ass cheeks in an office outfit, we got fucking robbed
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>>749018980
What's funny is that in this teaser they literally show the final area and final enemy of the game in retrospect.
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>>749018010
The mold quest seemed to have a pretty big revelation that the mold is seemingly evolving to try and become more human, not as a way to trick more humans into eating it, but literally as it's goal. It could be due to the patterning, which is why the Collective is what it is
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>>749018531
The game includes a ~5 min video recapping the events on the first game
If thats not enough you could watch a more in depth youtube video or play the game, its better than this one
You dont need to play either of the alan wake games for this one, its more the other way around, that the alan wake games benefit from having played the first control
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>>749019047
>To this day I am still buttmad there's no Re-tier outfit modding for Alan Wake 2
Be the change you want to see
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>>749019047
Their games seem catered to women so including hot females is a no go.
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>>749019305
>Their games seem catered to women
Resonant is literally about a 30 somehing depressed overpowered white guy getting a hapa GF who is ready to break every safety regulation under the sun to ensure he is okay.
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>>749019354
Zoe is the self insert for the game's target audience.
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Does Jesse also have Hiss inside her from that time she got corrupted?
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>>749019446
She got something else inside of her our baby
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>>749019410
You don't know jack shit about female auditory. They don't want someone as messy, weak willed and gross looking as Dylan. He belongs to the same archetype as Shinji. No, it's about a girl busting into his life and trying to fix it.
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>>749019446
No she has hedron inside of her. Dylan is hiss Jesse is hedron.
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>>749019483
>the piss
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Control 3 and AW3 should actually be a single game where Jesse and Dylan team up with Alan to take down Darling and Zane
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>>749019547
Alan Wake 2 and its DLC make very clear that Alan next big enemy will be Mr.Door
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>>749019638
I dont think they'll want to re-use that actor in the current year
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>>749004653
Haven't finished it yet but I like it as much. Characters are a lot more fleshed out and interesting here, Dylan is a better protagonist even if I already liked Jesse, I like that the focus on characters and the things they went through helped make it feel a bit smaller scale even though the main threat escalated. I don't want these games to go too far into Marvel shit territory, which Alan Wake 2 came dangerously close. This brings the focus of the story back to the events of Ordinary.
I like the level design a lot, I like the combat, needed more enemies, but still their largest roster to date, so glass half full and all. Main thing I miss is the Oceanview Motel and Casino, my favorite part of the first game.
Alan Wake is still my favorite Remedy game but Control is their strongest franchise and I'm much more excited for a new Control than a new Alan Wake.
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>>749019446
no, she purged it and then tried to use the same method on Dylan but it his case it got contained and not purged.
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>>749019496
>weak-willed
Nobody who overcomes years of torture to save the world is weak-willed.
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>>749019749
Why? David Harewood seemed to enjoy a lot his role as Mr.Door I am prettty sure he'll be open to it.
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>>749020240
Anti-woke youtubers will besmirch the game for featuring niggers and make the game flop
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>>749019749
why? Harewood didn't have any controversies I know of
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next game needs to have incest
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>>749020268
well if that worked then Control Resonant wouldn't have been such a success seeing how much anti-woke tubers shat on AW2 for Saga, Sweet baby Inc., that Starčević Remedy CM lady and her tweets etc. It really shows you that the only thing that screws over mainline Remedy games is launching only on Epic kek, Timmy's shitty platform is the only thing that can fuck over Remedy and which fucked up the launch of Control and AW2
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>>749016736
>he is literally innocent and the entirety of the FBC gives him endless shit for something that wasnt his fault and worst of all, he has severe stockholm syndrome to the point where he thinks hes somehow responsible for the hiss. hes not.
Some of them saw him doing it while grinning like a mad cunt. Possession or no possession, you can't erase the shock from that kind of event.
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>>749020579
the abilities are from jesses main quests in the faults
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>>749020549
I've finished the game but I wouldn't call Control Resonant a success, a week has passed and they didn't say anything about sales number which is a bit worrying, if it reached 1 milion they'd have made a post about it already.
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>>749016915
>nah dylan is a better character than jesse ever was.
Fucking how? Jessie had a personality, she deeply cared for her brother and she was well adjusted. She saw the world breaking apart around her and thought it was fucking awesome.
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>>749020634
Its one of the worst periods to release games too, so many games out.
Wolverine takes up majority of ps5 owners mindshare.
Weebs are playing onimusha
Teens are saving up to buying gta6 collectors edition.
Bbc fans are playing silent hill
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>>749017542
IT'S PAYNE!
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>>749016915
>dylan is a better character than jesse ever was.
Fucking bullshit.
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>>749009226
Truke, the highs of this game outweigh the lows.
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>Control's main theme is taking control back of you life (natch), symbolised by Jesse, after spending a lot of the game being flustered and lacking confidence, breaking out of the wagie nightmare and embracing her destiny as Director
>Resonant's is instead about finding a reason to live. Dylan has multiple times in the game where he basically says he'd be willing to die, asks Zoe to kill him with the MCD multiple times and mentions that his initial Hiss possession was effectively a suicide attempt. And the climax of the game is him ripping off the MCD
Kino
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>devs directly acknowledge they got inspired by evangelion and even put a direct reference to it into the game
>female lead is a 30 something hapa Asuka
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>>749020634
for now we know that it sold between around 400 thousand on Steam by now, that's pretty fucking good considering we don't have any data on console sales yet and it seems it will outsell Alan Wake 2 which was the fastest selling Remedy game. It took Alan Wake 2 around 2 months to get to 1 million so Resonant being half way there in just 10 days is very promising
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>>749020645
Dylan has childlike wonder, is innocent and curious but what he went through left him deeply scarred. Jesse was weird in a good way and made for a good protagonist to experience the Oldest House through, but Dylan feels more like a person who lived through that. To be fair a lot of it is down to dialogue choices and they made sure to include some for the player who always picks paragon for everything so it may come through more strongly to some people than others, but I thought his transition from hiss schizo to Shinji was excellent. I loved that even as they face a world ending threat that now escaped containment, they managed to make the story of the siblings and what they went through in Ordinary (and the aftermath) the most interesting and important of all.
To me, the most interesting types of weird fiction are the "chance encounter with the unknown" stories. You know, the hypothetical "game where you play as an FBC agent and see weird shit" a lot of people wish for. And I think through Dylan we got closer to that than to MCU shit, which is the inevitable endgame of escalating threats in what is essentially battle shounen anime.
Control was all about the Oldest House and its mysteries, Jesse was an observer, and an interesting one, but the parts I cared the most about her character were the ties to Alan Wake, her knowing Zane as a poet and all. With Dylan I think more of his personality, dialogue and reactions to things than lore when I think about him.
Now you can make a strong case that a protagonist like Jesse is better suited to weird fiction and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, making Dylan a more complete character does have a cost, but he is the more complete character.
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>>749021141
>hapa Asuka
Really, man? That seems like a huge reach. I'd sooner believe she's a post-menopause Mari.
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>>749021193
Well fuck you, I liked Jesse being weird in a good, working class, midnight shift gas station attendant way more than playing a literal manbaby. And I completely disagree Jesse was just an observer, she took action to get shit in order.
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>>749021141
There's more than one, according to the director.
Other than the nerv building, they directly referenced the sniper rifle episode
Can't tell you when it was, either haven't reached it yet or completely missed the reference, but it's what he said.
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Underpass Fault got me feeling emotional /v/ros...
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>>749020645
What personality?
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>>749021242
I liked her too. I think maybe you just disliked Dylan and you're assuming anyone who thinks he's a better character feel the same way but about Jesse. I thought she was great, I just think Dylan was better.
When they announced the game with playable Dylan I thought "bold choice but interesting", wasn't writing it off but wasn't particularly excited for it. But now if I have to choose only one for 3 I'm choosing Dylan without thinking twice. Hopefully I don't have to choose.
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Oh my god, I was in a threshold. Holy shiiiit
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>>749021441
Indeed. Jesse had a character when she showed it, but she is a very stoic person. That's not a good fit for a narrative about the horrors of lockdown and being stalked all your life.
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>>749021349
best part of the game for me
was not expecting something that heavy
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>>749021192
Where did you get this data?
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>>749004089
this game is unplayable for me without the head size slider mod
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>>749021729
Yeah, it's what I meant by observer. She's a great vehicle for the player to experience the weird shit in the Oldest House and form their own opinions and have their own reactions. Hell of a lot better to have a stoic protagonist barely reacting than WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED, at the very least. She's like the Mad Max of weird shit.
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>>749021438
Can you fucking read? You sound like you have trouble tying your shoelaces.
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>>749021958
I feel like installing it too but scared of it ruining some important story moment because it bugs out or something, kek. Will try on NG+
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>>749020579
Try to go to Park from Evacuation zone.
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I teared up at several points during the story and I'm not ashamed to say it
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>>749022207
Ok Zoe
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>>749022068
Being boring and liking her brother are not personality traits. Neither is talking to herself like a retard.
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>>749022207
>Pope's speech to comatose Jesse at the end
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Man I had no hopes but anons talking in this thread have me excited for a twenty dollar sale in three years because my backlog is mighty and I don't pay full price for shit.
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Question: Did they ever confirm what the relationship between 'the' hedron of the first game and Polaris was? Was the hedron Polaris' body, but it still survived in Jesse? An amplifier for Polaris? Another of the Hedron species, like the Patterning is, that was helping?

>>749022243
>Neither is talking to herself like a retard.
To be fair she could be talking to Polaris
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>>749022383
Recap says Polaris is 100% dead, so just same species
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>>749020579
I was exploring underpass(late game area) and the game just gave up and gave me a marker for jesse in evacuation zone
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>>749022728
>shit, this guy is a journalist. Unlock the markers!
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>>749017004
you are the first to actually unlock one lol
Even if you search the net for it there are no pics of those rewards because no one unlocked them kek
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>>749017004
cosmetics look so fucking stupid in this game, I finished the game with an office suit and a normie haircut that I got near the beginning of the game.
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>>749004653
The second is much more ambitious and there are very few bad segments,you always stop to look around you in awe.Hope Remedy makes good money from it so we get more Control kino
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>>749023183
They could have AT LEAST give him a cool leather jacket or a bomber jacket,that jacket you get after the party is so goofy.Hopefully mods will fix it.A suit like the one in RE9 wouldn't hurt either
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>>749013691
holy fuck, didn't even register while playing Lake house DLC they were teasing Arish
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>>749018305
i remember reading somewhere that that is literally the case, they purposefully avoided spending hundreds of millions on the game. probably smart all things considered, but it could come as a surprise to some people.
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>>749015562
>game that came out 7 years ago looks worse than sequel that came out two weeks ago
How riveting.
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>>749024141
yeah because Remedy is independently publishing it(with some help of Annapurna) so they had to pay the development costs by themselves but will also reap all the profits, they were really careful so that's why they're reusing so much assets from Control 1 and Alan Wake 2. With Alan Wake 2 Epic payed for the game dev cost fully so Remedy started getting payed royalties only after the game fully recouped the dev cost.
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It’s a masterpiece. The art direction and level design are some of the best I’ve ever seen.

I finished it at around 25h and now am playing through Control, which seems to be really good as well, even though I prefer the melee combat of the sequel.

Thinking of playing Alan Wake 2 next, but I’m not too much into horror games, is it worth it?
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>>749024829
It's not really a scary game, outside of a couple of jump scares here and there. It's horror in genre but doesn't really try to make you feel scared most of the time.
I didn't like it but if your concern is it leaning too much on horror and not enough on weird fiction, then there's nothing to worry about.
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>>749024829
I'd personally recommend giving Alan Wake 1 a shot first; if you've got even a mediocre PC, Steam is currently doing a sale for 1 + American Nightmare (spin-off sequel) for like $4. I will say that AW1 does have some janky parts in it, and it's very much a 2010 Xbox 360 game, and that can be a big roadblock for some; so if you can get over that, it's probably better to hit first, otherwise jumping to AW2 should be relatively fine.

All the AW games have a good spooky atmosphere, but it's nothing too scary. 2 has a few jump scares, but from what I can remember, it's like maybe 5 or so through the entire game.
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>>749025113
>you've got even a mediocre PC,
If he played Resonant I think his potato computer can handle Alan Wake.
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>>749025642
>Trench dead and responsible for the death of hundreds of agents and Hiss
>Jesse missing
>Fred present and based, actually has an office in the field instead of hiding in the Oldest house
best director
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>>749025642
Sounds grapes
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>>749024251
It's not about the games looking bad, they both have great art design but the first Control has these annoying as fuck filters that I don't remember being there last time I played.
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>>749025642
I wish Fra had a bigger involvement in Resonant and wasn't relegated to a short sidequest
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>>749026302
I mean you see exactly why he has to stay locked up.
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>>749026393
What do you mean? Fred is the best director the bureau ever had!
but really I wish his origins or power would have been explored more. All objects of power in Resonant kinda suck, there were fare more interesting SCPs in the first game
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>>749025642
picking all the wrong dialogue options so Fra gets increasing mad and calls me the roundest ping pong so some shit
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>>749025642
Never found this quest
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>>749026614
>roundest ping pong
Damn bro how do you cope with this
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>>749028598
Think fra calls you when you enter an area a couple times, you never got the call?
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>>749005207
>>749005463
>>749005668
>>749007078
>>749007146
look at all that exciting gameplay
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>>749029764
go play games and talk about them or kys
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>>749029802
go read a book and keep yourself save too, buddy
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>>749029764
here's some gameplay for you
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>>749030089
SAAAAAAAAM
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>>749029802
>Ahti was right
>again
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>>749025642
>both Jesse and Fra -entities have power to make people think they have known them in the past
Deepest lore
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>>749030446
was it kino?
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>>749030183
>>749030446
Why does pixel-Ahti have Heihachi-balding pattern? Is Dylan's memory just so shit?
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Kino game.
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>>749030548
Ahti got a hair replacement therapy, or hrt since then
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>>749030619
*toupee*
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>stay in the Gap for a couple of minutes
>the Board starts throat singing
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>>749030183
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>>749020549
You can tell they went above and beyond not to offend anyone with Control resonant.
All blacks that are legally mandated to be there are as good looking as the modeler could manage.
If some main character isnt beautiful its because their face got scanned from the actor.
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dr darling cave johnson sully from uncharted is a nightmare blunt rotation of npcs who wont shut the fuck up
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>>749020549
>that Starčević Remedy CM lady and her tweets
could you jog my memory on what exactly happened? I'm not that well versed on the latest remedy drama
I met her personally and she seemed like a nice. Very tall though, which for me is a big YES.
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>>749005463
Why's he so ugly? I can't play ugly characters
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>>749033583
posted stuff like this regularly etc. so Smash JT and the like latched on to her but that's only performative progressive stuff because she has no effect on development and her job was for a time basically just some promo and getting coffee for Sam. Also know her personally, we talked multiple times on different cons and while she was still in Croatia, pretty fun person, her IRL personality and what she posted on twitter and her old articles on croatian feminist sites are completely different kek
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>>749010428
Anon...there's stuff in Resonant implying Scratch is STILL torturing Alan after the events of AW2. The Dark Presence will never disappear so long as the Dark Place exists, since it's basically a part of it.
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>>749033465
is he gonna be ok?
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>>749034108
I did spot a gay couple in resonant, and jesse and pope apparently went on lunch together at some point in the past which is pretty lesbian.
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>>749011996
Thanks Board.
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>>749016650
I didn’t like Dylan at all at the start of the game and was jokingly calling him a onions boy beta cuck getting bossed around by women. But by the end of the game I really grew to like him and feel bad for anything negative I said or thought about him.
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>>749034805
Did him being molested get you sympathize with him
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>>749034510
Game is pretty explicit in telling you that pope lusts after jesse hard, pretty late in the game tho.
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>>749008145
They had everyone on blood thinners because they're injecting themselves with rocks to resist the paranatural.
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>>749016695
I think that kind of thing demonstrates how emotionally broken Dylan is. He's learning how to human again after a literal lifetime of trauma and it's purely touch-and-go.
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>>749019446
No, she just has Polaris.
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>>749021498
Dylan getting more and more snarky as the game goes in is great.
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>>749022383
>>749022430
The first Hedron was basically just an amplifier for Polaris, something to wake Polaris up and spread her around. Jesse even says that the Hedron died, but Polaris was still around. We have no idea what Polaris is.
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>>749034108
I don't think a person's politics can be summarized in a single tweet but she does admittedly have genuinely shit takes. But like you said, a CM is not really involved in the creative process.
>her old articles on croatian feminist sites
croatia's full of literal wehraboo nazi white power wannabe apologists, i don't think the other side of the political spectrum is any better. do tell if you don't mind sharing her views. in person she seemed lovely
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>>749014725
Saga sucks because she has all the gameplay and screentime in an Alan Wake game, yes they are doing stuff specifically because of Alan Wake but that isn't the actual focus.
They seriously had to retread the same path as the first game because "new players" so they had to make a character who hasn't been introduced to the lakes supernatural bullshit so they can have the character "Learn" along with the player, it's complete fucking padding that did nothing for the story and the fact they keep delaying shit with cliffhangers and taking literal years to flesh out their garbage universe makes it lame as fuck for anyone actually attempting to follow along.

Not to mention each of their games have bullshit collectibles that you need to collect to even get all the lore, they literally want you to waste your time attempting to piece this stuff together but forgot to actually make a good game behind it, again.
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>>749017387
Roberts deserved that desu.
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>>749022383
Polaris was just a very weak/dying hedron, and was the same one as what they had "contained". Game tells this a couple of times after you find out that a hedron is causing the patterning. Can also speak with pope about it.
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>>749035556
>Saga sucks because she has all the gameplay and screentime in an Alan Wake game
She's basically the vehicle for the story to take place, while allowing a "modern audience" to connect with the world of Alan Wake, like you said. Without her, I don't think AW2 would have ever happened, so her being the token nigress that half of the story centers around is really the lesser evil.
Wait a fucking minute, Alan Wake and by extention, Sam Lake need to to through the same process to make their creative vision come to life:
Wake needs to use the Dark Place's power to escape but he has to adhere to storytelling rules
Lake needed to use Epic's money to make AW2 a reality but he needed to adhere to DEI rules and bend down to the will of SBI
Holy fucking shit my man!
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>>749036396
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too zoomzoom to read all the fucking pages you can collect. need text to speech for that shit.
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>>749036664
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>Pick Burn after the factory
>it seems fine
>stuck on Co Director fight and decide to do the rest of the side quests in the area
>spend my new ability point on Ignite
>It does 52390820958029 Facade damage and shreds through half the enemies.
nigger did I get scammed
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>>749004653
Better gameplay (Needs real combos though)
Better enemy variety
Worse writing
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>>749036845
oh, Inferno not burn.
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>>749036845
yes, the weapon enchant is extremely op
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>>749004089

>He ate the mold

You had one fucking job.
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So Dylan's entire gimmick is that he's bad with binding objects to himself but extremely good binding powers from other dimensions entirely?
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>>749037079
I don't think he's good at anything besides fighting off possession.
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modern remedy writing is unbearable
i am surprised there are people ITT enjoying this slop
even more surprised that they made another control game after the last one was incredibly mid and basically a glorified tech demo with a lot of boring SCP notes to read
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>>749037079
it should be something along the lines of opening gateways to other dimensions or being a conduit of that sort
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>>749037202
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>>749037115
What? He's basically a superhero
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>>749037385
>the average control fan
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>>749034108
she is not gonna fuck you bro, stop embarassing yourself
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>>749035889
It was what remained of the hedron after destroying everything in that world. At the end of the day the Hedrons are just massive weapons of destruction that can either destroy everything or you can link up with them.
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>>749017542
god, sam lake is such a submissive bitch boy, he radiates cuck energy
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>>749017747
If only she looked like this ingame
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>Zoe asks for Dylan's taste in music
>basically asks to set up a date afterward
heh
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I was watching an interview with Remedy’s CEO where he said they want to do more multimedia stuff with their games
I would kill for a book of FBC case notes and experiments, like a really high effort version of the in-game notes
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>>749037851
noob hedron, didn't even get everything in the world since hiss were still there and piggybacked off trench to get out
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>>749022383
>>749022430
>>749035889
Per word of Jesse if you return to the Hedron chamber in the first game:

> "You and Hedron were never one and the same. She...It helped Darling with the HRAs to slow the Hiss down. And it helped me learn to tap into this power I had inside. You."

She knows Polaris better than anyone so this is as definitive an answer as we're getting. If Polaris is just some sapient inherent power to Jesse and possibly Dylan, then it might explain why the Board insisted that they be kept "separated".
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>>749004653
Ive only played about 10 hours so far but it takes one step forwards for every step it takes backwards.
Visually it's great but doesn't feel anywhere near as stylish as the first.
Combat is significantly better and more varied in terms of your abilities but enemies still feel extremely samey with every nonboss fight so far being the same clusterfuck of endlessly respawning ranged enemies and a bunch of super agile tanky enemies that all dog pile you. The actual combat mechanics feel great but the enemies and arenas are once again complete dog shit.
Manhattan is a significantly worse setting than the Oldest House. So far it has absolutely no character. Lots of "dungeons" are entirely linear with side hallways that end with chests of nothing materials. Most of these areas look exactly the same from beginning to end and do a very bad job of guiding the player through them naturally. I often found myself backtracking accidentally because everything looks exactly the same in places like the factory tunnels or in office building halls. Lots of "if its yellow that means go here" modern bullshit instead of competent level design in the open world.
Changing your gravity to traverse the warped city is quite fun. Movement feels extremely good to begin and only gets better.
The game starts you out with a significant amount of powers. It really hits that "superhero" feel the last game ended with right away. Within an hour I felt like Alex Mercer halfway through Prototype and I really liked that.
Side characters are forgettable and exist only to exposition dump.
Massive amounts of map marker slop
Collectable storytelling items so far are extremely bland. Really really disappointed by this.
I'm on a 3070, 9700x, 32gb ddr5 and the game runs at around 90fps at medium settings 1440p with dlss set to quality.
7/10 Annapurna astroturfed reviews.
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>>749039409
Second game says something else though
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>>749015562
Don't play on the lowest graphics setting then holy shit.
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>>749039409
Also:
>Hedron is dead, but you're alive. Here. In me. Maybe Hedron put you in our heads when we met her. Maybe you were always there, and she was just trying to teach me how to trigger you.

>>749039673
The second game only says Hedrons are a species. They're individuals with their own opinions and approaches to the Hiss. The one in Resonant thinks nothing of destroying countless universes to wipe out the Hiss, the one in Control 1 was slow and subtle and bonded with the FBC and Oldest House to aid it because it was weak/dying, and Polaris (if she even is a Hedron) is purely benign and helpful to Jesse even as she opposes the Hiss.

It's also worth noting that the two Hedrons observed both needed physical forms to contain their resonance and they died without said forms. Whereas Polaris doesn't have a physical body at all and merely acts through conduits like Jesse or the first Hedron.
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This game better have made money. I want not I need another one.
I'm so tired of studios like Remedy struggling to make a profit when they do nothing but make brilliant games, while literal shovelware slop makes billions.
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>>749006683
Yeah, I hated that shit. The game should have shipped with a photo mode because I'm already done with it and I'm not gonna go back and re-play it anytime soon to see all the small details I missed.
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>>749030562
I fucking love the Hiss. They're so cool and the red in the eye is kino as fuck.
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if Board doesn't win best VA at TGA i will riot
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So did they finally decide if Dark Place is scarier or less scary than the Hiss yet
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Dylan and Jesse are cute! CUTE!
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>>749040960
A realistic reason for mid performance is Finland as a society struggling from low birth rates, high taxation which places unfortunate pressures to companies operating there.
Hard to find local talent, hard to convince talent to locate to high taxation country, hard to make money because taxes, difficult to scale operations up because employing people is expensive and doing that is risky.
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it was a crime not shipping this game with photo mode too.
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but I was able to at least take some cool screenshots disabling the HUD. I was on PS5 so I didn't have mods to get a photo mode.
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>>749041290
To be fair having concrete buildings and high contrast single color lighting isn't that noteworthy.
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also how the fuck did it get such lukewarm reviews? This game deserved to be in conversation for GOTY, not an 8/10.
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>>749041132
Those aren't my children
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>>749041358
The combat is mid, and the repetitiveness is felt more towards the end.
Sure it could be a goty if it had better enemy variety and more going on for combat option, but as it is its difficult to rate it beyond 80-85/100
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>>749041358
Game reviewers cried about the combat because they are bad at games
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>>749041358
yeah I was surprised too, but Remedy games always review relatively poorly for whatever reason
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>>749041290
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>>749015786
There are perks that buff you for command charges you have but don't use, they acknowledge that some people (myself included) have no interest in summon shit, I think that's pretty cool. Also 15 seconds execution buff is probably fucking broken and makes sense to gate it behind a bunch of shit you don't need.
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>>749041353
I do think in general the first game had slightly better art direction. The Foundation area for example was incredible

>>749041648
That was the most underwhelming quest in the game. It just sort of ends without any real resolution.
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>>749041130
The Dark Place is the seething (as in, it actually hates us) nothingness/sea of narrative potentia that exists between and outside all realities and dimensions in the Remedyverse. Every universe is just a single point of light on its 'skin' and its extrusions like the Dark Presence are akin to its antibodies or attempts to snuff out said light. Being directly sacrificed to it turned Door into a multiversal singularity by killing all of his alt-reality counterparts and Door himself can cause multiversity scale devastation if he wants.

The Hedron-Hiss multiversal war is devastating, but the Dark Place will always be top dog in the setting's cosmology.
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>>749041358
not enough stronk independent womyn
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>>749041697
Because that's the point. Like the bunker guy and the twins subquest, it's just part of the subquests that represents the real dynamic between Jesse and Dylan after what happened to Ordinary.
Both seperated, but willing to find each other. And one decides to finally go wonder to get the matter in their hands. Just like Jesse did in search for Dylan.
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>>749041842
*multiversal scale
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Am I the only one who thinks Dylan is actually quite handsome?
IDK why everyone keeps calling him ugly
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please dont put a self indulgent earthpound pixel walking segment in your fucking game at the end what the fuck is this shit
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>>749042080
10/10 or 0/10 no inbetween
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Kino opener for a boss fight.
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>>749042080
His head being 8% larger than normal is the main issue I think. Fixed with mods though.
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>>749025642
I can't believe Dylan just walked in and took the painting.
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>>749042203
yep
best lead up to a boss fight is in an area you haven't been to yet
the physicist
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>>749036396
They could’ve easily just gone with Casey instead.
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>>749042080
He is. People only say that he's ugly because they keep seeing the absolute goblinos others turn him into.
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>>749037079
Jesse is Link
Dylan is Megaman
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>>749042328
I put control down after I cleared all of "act 1" a day later to play Ace Combat 8. Will come back to it shortly to continue on now that HDR is presumably fixed and a lot of the sidequest bugs are fixed.
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>>749040796
Shinji and Misato!
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>>749037079
I heard a theory that he's a power copier. Which explains why he gets abilities by following Jesse and eating Resonants.
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>>749004089
Control was awful why wouldn’t the sequel be as well?
>no the games good because you can read notes about spooky chairs that move by themselves!
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>>749037498
If I'm the superhero
Then where the hell did I go
When you needed me most
I was lost like a ghost
Nothing but a story told
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I'm so fucked up...
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>>749042080
4chan says things. Also, most of the people on it aren't attracted to men at all, so...
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>>749042976
only thing missing is a nude girl
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i spent the whole game hoping i could save jesse but she just traded places with dylan
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>Best song is horribly misused

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo8VOF3hmqE

Still, better than entirely omitting the best song from your game I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWba_XNUxtA
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>>749043213
I'm sure Dylan feels the same way.
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>>749043181
I don't think he plays idle animations on story areas unfortunately
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>>749042203
It was, too bad most of the bosses are piss easy, in fact all of them are. The game really offers up almost no challenge.
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>>749043507
>>749043695
they really went all out with the last area
going to the last boss made my stomach drop
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>>749042143
Yeah it really killed the pacing
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How is he alive in this checkpoint? The exit and the entrance both has Mold and I had to fight a dozen of them to get through to the checkpoint?
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>>749045680
yeah felt like an oversight



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