>creates one of the most beloved father figure, badass, real masculine characters in gaming history >kills him off in an hour on the sequelWhat happened?
>>749011696killing joel is fine and honestly a reasonable thread to pull on in regards to a sequel, it could make Ellie confront her survivor's guilt yet again while serving as the main thrust to get her to leave the relatively safety she and Joel were in. the problem was that where they went with the whole thing was >REVENGE....BADin one of the most boring ways imaginable with a generally boring supporting cast.
>>749011696why the hell did they make Ellie a tatted up pot smoking lesbian with a jewish-chink mutt baby? The writing is so shitty that you can't even begin with killing Joel.
>>749011696Jewish
>>749011876by part 2 druckmann had unlimited creative control and was able to push for all the things he couldn't do in the first game
>>749011876Ellie was always a lesbian. But that’s not what’s wrong with LoU2
>>749011862Revenge IS bad; you have to learn to forgive and move on. That's not a particularly controversial message, and we've known this for a long time.>“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."Matthew 5:43>"Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord."Romans 12:19
>>749011982>Ellie was always a lesbian. But that’s not what’s wrong with LoU2how can you look at this with a straight face and say "that’s not what’s wrong with LoU2"?
>>7490116962 things1 - Neil hates chuds. Chuds loved Joel, so he killed him off like the Joker director killed Jokers character in the movie2 - During last of us we had the "subvert expextations" bullshit in media. Critics loved it (look up The Last Jedi, critics litereally coomed over the desecration of Luke Skywalker), and Neil was like wow this is my thing this is what I want to achieve aswell.I would put my salary that to this day, just like Ryan Johnson he thinks like he did the best thing, and he is a genius whose work is hated just by some nazis and he is very proud at himself
>>749011876The DLC was originally part of the first game, which is why Ellie mentions Riley by name at the end of TLOU1. So she was gay the whole time. >>749011971The presence of fags and gay porn in the first game is evidence that Neil was always in charge
>>749012016I wish you guys were capable of discussion that wasn't centered on idpol because something like that house existing out in the open like that while being safe to indulge in hobbies like painting and music is more of a problem setting wise than an ugly baby model
>>749011876In the og game there was nothing like that, the entire game was about a normal wholesome father and daughter story. Neil cuckman didn’t like that, and created a dlc solely to make ellie a lesbian.
>>749012081ah geez why can't we discuss the writing without bringing up the characters not matching the setting?
>>749012016Jesse got Dina pregnant. But he got killed. So who else is supposed to take care if the kid
>>749011696It's funny to me that TLoU2 has the same basic concept as Silent Hill 3, but is more bloated and less compelling. And also made the antagonist a less plausible villain, Claudia is almost sympathetic when you realise how fucked up her life was.
>>749012083>In the og game there was nothing like that, the entire game was about a normal wholesome father and daughter story.https://youtu.be/eimK5YPT9Bk
>>749012169I don't know, does a polycule in the apocalypse sound normal to you?
>>749012080She could’ve been a friend not a lover you faggot no need to make excuses for druckman.And no Tlou wasn’t his creation but his fellow Bruce Starley, the huge contrast between TLOU1 and TLOU2 is proof. He can shove that sketch up his ass.
>>749012242Please name an alternative.
>>749012162>characters not matching the setting>the setting is post apocalyptic America in the 2000sso not only do you have but one lens to view everything through, but you're fucking STUPID on top of it. do you think asian americans are like, a recent occurrence?
>>749012315Your moms pussy
>>749012325Asians? Jews? No problem. Pot smoking lesbians having threesomes and fucking off to live on a cozy farm? Yeah that's the most libtard fantasy ever. The fact that it's diverse just adds to how retarded this is.
>>749012041“Chud” wasn’t even a word in the zeitgeist in 2020, when this game came out kek
>>749012395What does the term mean according to you?
>>749012440Far right/incel/maga/etc. yeah we know what it means but grouping it all together as it 2018 (when Neil was working on this) game and equating it to 2026 lingo is dishonest. Also just calling it a far left game has also been pretty dishonest. One of the factions you fight at literally a religious cult
>>749011982>Ellie was always a lesbianashley benson has said that they didn't decide to make ellie gay until the left behind dlc
>>749012701What? She literally said the opposite. She confirmed that Ellie was written as a lesbian
>>749012080>female mentions the name of a former female acquaintance>that HAS to mean she's gay Fuck you and everything you love
>>749012389The diversity has nothing to do with any of the games problems and is rather a strength of it
>>749012940Then why wasn’t it shown until the dlc? You goyim are retards
>>749012083>gameThe og game is filled with woke and zionist bullshit, the game just manages to be good despite of it.
>>749012701>>749012940Weird how there's nothing hinting at it in the base game.
What exactly is wrong with a lesbian character? The gameplay was great
>>749011696its not a bad idea its the execution of having a not even possible if roided ugly unlikable character kill him and than being forced to play as her for the entire second half of the game that kinda made gamers lose their minds, rightfully so. It's all a metaphor for Israel/Palestine that Druccman wanted to huff his own farts about anyway as a deep piece of art with its own totally not surface level midwit take to insert into a fucking zombie video game, but ya
>>749011696I bet he didn't create anything up until TLOU2.
>>749013438>>749012080
>>749013428>It's all a metaphor for Israel/PalestineIf it is, it makes Druckmann look pretty good, since the WLF (IDF) are portrayed very negatively and you righteously kill a bunch of them as both Ellie and Abby
>>749011876darwin's finches with nose beak.jpg
>>749012940you're a liarhttps://youtu.be/FYF-jnc5AqI25:30 in this video, she says ellie's sexuality hadn't been discussed when they made the first game, and when they all came back later to make the dlc druckman asked her what she thought about making ellie gay
>>749014441my nigga came with receipts
>>749012009Revenge is the basic form of justice Justice is good>NOOO CHRISTKEK, YOUR SKYMAN TELLS YOU TO FORGIVE I'll forgive you after you atone for your son's with your life
>>749015263Revenge is infinitely destructive if carried out to its end, it's neither just nor good. Christcucks are absolutely right on this one
>>749012940kwab
