I thought they were gonna be a cool enemy ace squadron tbdesu
NOBODY IS COMING, COULD BE MY COFFINIF I BURNED LIKE A STAR WOULD YOU BE MY WITNESS?CALL ME UUUUUUUP, I'VEGOT TO FEEEEEL ALIVECALL ME UUUUUP, HIGH SET ME FREE TO FLYMY BLUE SKY HOOOOOOOOOOOOOME
Our lone target is (hot)wings
Out of curiosity, I looked up a flight sim controller.Do any of you actually use that type of controller?Is it fun?
>>749016878No. I started playing Ace Combat on the PS2
Pretty disappointed by the soundtrack this time around. Ace Combat 7 clearly had development struggles but the ost was great.This one has that generic hollywood background music going on. Nothing came close to something like daredevil. Let alone anything from zero.
>>749016514why does copes dogtags seem to have sim card attached it?
>>749016953It sounds like anime dub music to me
The little yurts on the megafloat are cute. I want to hit them with a FAB for ten points each.
>>749016514>Skeleton with hat>Immediately the coolest squadron in your entire airforceIt's that easy
imagine how much cooler the first land battleship fight would be if the FCU guys were actually suicide bombing the treads off instead of using remote control trucks
we cleared 50k over the weekend
>game finally acknowledged that some aircraft have two seats>you even actually get in the second seat sometimes>for the rest of the game, whenever you use aircraft with two seats, the second seat is never acknowledged againhow much sense would it make for there to be another character that sits with you in 2 seat planes (and wont be with you in 1 seat planes), and are the japanese willing to do anything about that or are they just not gonna bother
>>749017181Not bad for our silly little niche plane game. I was expecting around 25k peak
>>749016878Ace Combat is at a weird spot between flight sim and arcade where you can benefit from a special controller but it's not necessary to play the game well at allPeople do it because it appeals to the fantasy of being a fighter pilot rather than someone sitting at home
>>749017219I half expected the WSO to be a character just to give them an excuse for Cope to have a "physical" presence, like the WSO would be a quiet guy so you'd just see Cope there instead
>>749017219I like to think they were testing the waters by trying out a few ideas from PW in 8, and in 9 they'll finally do the big one and give you a WSO.
>>749017181I just hope they can shit out an amazing campaign DLC like they did for 7. Possibly even a quick shorter game like 5->0 pipeline
They're working themselves into a corner. General Resorces absorbed Enso ehoch puts GR closer to being a megacorp. AC9 will have to either go back in time or remake AC3
>>749017453Rex: I can't fucking read
I was kinda hoping for some nostalgia bait once we got to Fort Grays againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIScZNMrTtc
Would you want to see AC9 go back to the usual documentary/fragmented story style or stick with the 1st person storytelling in AC8?
>>749017517I'd rather they stick with 8 because we're less likely to be subjected to the civilian garbage from 6/7
wheres the soundtrack rip
>>749017453>OUR HONOR>OUR PRIDESulejmani reincarnated after Joint Assault, I see
>>749017517The first person storytelling had a very thematic point to make (you can only believe something you see with your own eyes)I completely expect this is going to be used differently in AC9 (you cannot believe something you see with your own eyes)
>>749017453>With a kill count well over 30Disgusting slander. It's at least well over 300
>>749017368I'm pretty hopeful we'll get a quicker turnaround for the DLC and stuff like that because Project Aces merged with one of the bamco support studios for that exact purposeI think an AC9 (assuming it's fully into the AC3 era) will take longer if they want to return to that aesthetic
>>749017517I just hope they try something differentOne of the strengths of the PS2 series was how they were all told in different ways, helped make each of them feel specialAlso the different kinds of soundtracks but after 7 it seems like they've kept that in mind
>>749017847sex with kate
>>749016953Everflow and Hortus Regis Alti > Daredevil.
>>749016514bros am I retarded or the payload parts don't do anything
What are good attack planes? I unlocked the thunderbolt because it's one of my favourite planes in real life, but it sucked ass in the mission by the space elevator with the land battleship.I just couldn't avoid the railgun and had to use 2 checkpoints. It was about as agile as my 90 year old grandma.
F-16 is so fucking sexy
>>749016514>Shows up once>Mogs your lame ass squad>Fucking diesI hate Joker Flight so much bros, such a lame bunch with a lame name, emblem and motif. At least as the game goes on you get the grasping hand and wings which is pretty cool.
>>749018312SU-34 bombs mog everything.
>game turns into MGS3 all of a sudden
>>749018345Hideous lightbulb head.
is multiplayer just buggy? I've had so many matches just fail to startI'm hoping there aren't already fags who just rage quit because they know they're going to lose just based on their team comp
Since when was there so many female Ace pilots? It's a bit ridiculous how ham-fisted it all is.
>>749018395
>>749018478Bro, the ladies have better reaction times than guysIt's been a well-known fact in aviation for decades
final mission should have revealed that there was a actually a 4th land battleshipit burrowed a large tunnel underneath where the endurance is and is planning to suicide bomb itself but before it can do that, it has to surface in the general area of the endurancerex follows it through the tunnels, blows a hole through the hull of the ship and escapes through there
>>749018467Buggy and very badly implemented. Japs somehow still cannot into multiplayer.
>>749018478how the fuck can a voice over the radio be hamfisted
>>749018395Metal Gear?
>>749018478don't care bring me more short-haired cuties
>>749018583The girl even gets the prototype psychic military hardware
>>749018578Ham radio, I guess
>subterranean shitpost unitThey're too goofy for me to hate.
>>749018478we've had plenty of girl pilots before
>"These targets sure are tricky to hit!">Angle myself just right to get some missiles in>They still miss>Then, everything just clicks together>Get into the tunnel and rain hell>Everyone losing their mindsAw yeah, we're so back.
>>749018564that sucks, it has potential but actually trying to play it sucks
Since when was there so many senior citizen Ace pilots? It's a bit ridiculous how ham-fisted it all is.
>>749018861You are a gay faggot for comparing Mihaly's bravery with a bunch of DEI hires
So...Are Sotoans supposed to be Turks?
>>749018936that's mongol stuff, innit
>>749018936mongolian
>>749018936They seem like Muslim Mongolians
>>749018936They're a pastiche of a bunch of different groupsIIRC their geographic position makes them out to be Spain but they're steppe nomads instead
>>749018901That 'DEI hire' was fighting against you-know-who while Migayly was a golem mindlessly helping to destroy the strangereal world.
>>749018456It looks like an actual bird which I like
>>749018957>>749018962>>749018969>Toprak
>>749018820always go for tunnels on other maps too, it's kino
>>749018820I went through that tunnel a bunch of times and it didn't spawn any special dialogue :(
>Mission 15How do you get the bomber to pull a kulbit on you? It's never happened to me but I've seen people talk about it, is it only on Ace difficulty?
>>749018861The enemy aces are slowly getting ready for COFFIN.
>>749019106Seems that you have to do so after other dialogue has been exhausted
>>749018820>Everyone losing their mindsnever gets old
>>749019159Ahh, that makes sense then why I didn't get any special dialogue for a bunch of tunnel runs I did, I was trying to get a S on every mission, so usually was mopping stuff up very fast, spawning mission dialogue after mission dialogue.
>>749018297Payload is ammo count.
>>749019112there has to be one bomber left and you have to be on his ass constantly.
>>749017453>D.D couldn't even be bothered to create an army of bot accounts to also post wings of theve from so it didn't look like just one accountgonna start calling that dude the Dynamic Dunce
>game about saving the poor brown refugee foids and taking orders from Debra WilsonHard pass. Might be even more woke than Dustborn.
>>749019196>Oh no we're not worshipping Wings, we just consider him to be a fucking SaintHad me giggling.
>>749019302I can only assume that Enso had been handling the botting for his earlier scheme.
>>749019316No one really asked anon.
>>749019316
>>749019112I had it happen to me last night, didn't do anything special just stuck close to it. Playing on hard.
>finally get to go up against the chandelier on the online mode>everyone pixy bombs it into fucking oblivionman, its hard to get a decent score online, everyones already got the busted shit unlocked
>>749019316>Claims to pass>But behaves like a bot posting this 500 times a day?
>>749019476I don't know why they didn't make it so that missions have loadout cost restrictions.I would never willingly load into an endgame plane lobby personally because that shit is just boring.
>>749017453>"Declassity" at the bottom rightBRAVORAVO
Can someone tell me how to use these golden envelopes? Or where to use them?
>>749019256I was just blind and retarded, disregard.
>>749019720Later upgrades will require those, zollars and specific bps
>>749019745Ahh, thank you anon, I thought they were just free universal upgrades that i could use for free on any fighter.
>>749019694Literacy is racist and has no place in Debra Wilson's nigger navy.
>>749019008The closest thing geographically is North Africa, which makes sense since there's a lot of nomads there (berbers, tuareg, etc) but culturally they're pretty Mongolian/Turkic/Tengrist.
>>749019861>>749019316Uhuh, what else anon.
>>749018820>go into tunnel>big fuck you pillar in the middle so I can't do a full blitz through itFuck you project ace.
Is there a more raped character in the series?>as leader of the free world be overtaken in silent coup by revanchist elements of some third-rate has-been power>sit in the cuck chair impotently while your staffer lands the shitty ass busted up transport>whoops got captured>left to rot in radioactive frozen castle for months>finally get freed (through no action of your own) and then build your Epic Peace space elevator>mouthy scrap queen bitch hates you, personally, for "ordering an action" in which her father was killed (despite you being a peacenik and her father being a soldier whose literal job is to fight) and nobody calls her out for the retarded delusions she harbors against you>space elevator you fought so hard for as a symbol of peace is used as a casus belli for usean war #93841>lol you get blown the fuck up and killed while AT THAT SAME SPACE ELEVATOR>10 years later some royal bitch larping as a peasant appropriates your space elevator and, predictably, a bunch of homeless take it over, and they likely absentmindedly dump garbage over the spot your corpse landed>lol giant fucking assrape ship frots against the homeless shelter you used to call your life's work and almost destroys it, likely causing your country to sent another hundred billion on usean aid package #923832He's not even a bad guy but he's been done so dirty.
>>749020464just roll dude
>>749020538I have a need for speed.
Could the Arsenal Bird defend the Space Elevator from a Land Battleship?
>>749016514oof. Village part was a slog. I sit down for an hour and a bit to play some more ace combat and I get 45 minutes of ever so slightly interactive cutscenes and then a 15 minute escort flight mission. Hopefully the rest of the game is normal.
The more I think about it, Eursea did nothing wrong.
>>749020527Jimmy Carter of Strangereal.
>>749020636Their railguns seem to be smaller caliber than a Stonehenge cannon, but if the Bird let its APS down for a second I'm pretty sure it'd be destroyedWe have seen the Arsenal Bird laser slice through boats but landships seem to have tougher armor than thatIn a situation where the landship can't just roll into the space elevator and knock over its main power supply, I suppose the Arsenal Bird could just gently rub its APS shield over the landship and cook its insides
>>749020723Village part was awesome. I got literal goosebumps when Char and Lalah showed up just like Gundam 0079 while my newtype ghost spoke to me.
>>749020723That entire section of the game with back to back escort shit definitely drags. Luckily it starts ramping up into fuck you missile spam after that.
The escort missions should have been after the Ladon so my finger would have had time to rest from holding the afterburners the entire mission.
Still the greatest squad of all time.
>>749020723That was the nadir for me too, it gets better
>Moon 11 even with all her fancy tech, pulls enough Gs to cause her brain to bleed>Powers through it anyway out of pure spiteMakes me wonder what the dog fight between her and Tasha's mom looked like.
>>749020959miss you so bad chopper
>>749016514Does this game require a supercomputer to run? My trusted war machine still runs 1080ti, 16gb RAM and i7-8700k.
>>749020959Nagase sex
>>749017847Who's the guy in the background? Doesn't look like Jenkins. One of the Queen flight pilots?>>749018312F-15E or Su-34.>>749018467I've seen some players rage quit the non-PvP sorties, and the end result is that their score disappears and we retroactively lose S rank.>>749018583>>749018627Could be a localization thing, but it did seem like Tewy was somehow responding to some of Cope's dialogue at one point.
>>749021037Yeah, you're fucked. Has a memory leak too apparently which I didn't notice since I have 32gb of RAM.
>>749021037>16gb ramprobably not gonna happen
>>749021065Yeah it's Kate's wingman.
>>749021074I have 64gb of ram, and I've seen this game take literally 34 during online. The more ram you have, the more it seems to want to take.
>>749016878Started at AC7 with a HOTAS and it's the way I play these games, with cockpit view and increased FOV I can't really imagine playing with a controller or in 3rd personIt plays great
>>749021037I run the game on medium with 16 gigs of ram on a 3070, you'll probably have to put it on low if you can get it running since raytracing is on by default.
>>749019316>saving the poor brown refugee foidsNIGGA THEY ARE YOUR OWN PEOPLEYOU'RE PROTECTING YOUR COUNTRY
If they are going to make this game political then it should allow me to take sides. I would've happily blown up the libtards in the space elevator.
>>749021401My dude you are replying to a person who doesn't care for the game, hasn't played the game, and only is on /v to shitpost, don't even attempt to reply with anything serious.
>>749021135Running long enough it will munch as much of a ram as you have, especially if you watch story cutscenes back to back. Which somehow absolutely tanks the performance even though 5 nukes from morgans going at the same time in online runs rock solid.
>>749016514https://youtu.be/SiWcMkTjMLo?si=Mx9oFSgYrKSHRLZG&t=91It's peak
>>749021074>>749021080>>749021395thank you anons, I consider my wings clipped then
>>749021561CALL ME UPSET ME FREE
>>749021626I was able to play it without any performance issues with only 16GB of ram + two internet browsers open + an android dev kit open at the same time at whatever graphically settings it set as my default
>>749021113imo they made it too blatant that Queen flight are goners when only Kate shows up in cutscenes.Also, the doctor has little screen time or dialogue compared to every other named character. I swear I forgot about her about the end of the campaign.
>>749021747you can actually see Vaquero (Queen 2) around in cutscenes a bit if you look for him
Does using the Standard missile damage upgrades do anything during campaign? I don't recall it mattering for a single breakpoint in 7 but 8 does have 3 different parts for it now.
If you wanna be a massive cunt grab a friend and get them to fly the prowler with the ems jammer while you spam laams with the mig31 or f14a in teamdeath match. All they need to do is avoid missiles in the furball with the sp weapon active. You effectively take the entire enemy's team B button away,its incredibly cancerous but we won 35 games in a row. Ez money and xp . Only downside is living with being a massive piece of shit whos actively ruining the game for others
>>749020527can't have shit in strangerealseriously, any international cooperation, peace symbol or even fucking arable land will just lead to a chimpout from some niggers angry they they don't have your cool shit because they spent the last decade building their retarded wunderwaffe7's DLC confirmed that the superpilots that seem to appear in every war are identifiable in-universethat's what he should've focused on if he wanted peace, finding the fighter pilots with CHIM and pulling every string to put them under PKF or somethingIn 8 DD and Enso try to create one and half-fail half-succeedIn 3 an artificial one is made
>>749021037if your definition of supercomputer is "something less than 9 years old" then yes
>>749020996After everything that happens with Baxter, it's really funny when Tasha casually mentions that her mom once shot down Tewy.>>749021784I did notice guys that looked like Queen flight in the background during one of the lunchroom scenes, but I'll pay more attention on my Ace difficulty playthrough.>>749021824MiG-31 seems like the meta pick for online right now.>LAAM and QAAM>Being Fighter class it gets decent agility instead of being a flying brick>Still fast>Cheaper to upgrade due to the lower base cost versus the F-22
>>749021976Tomcat has been my go too,laams do it all when it comes to score whoring and pvp. Plus it gets an ability that gives its missiles more Damage. You can one shot just about anything with its laams. Also , run fully upgraded mobility and speed on its special missiles , and they track great.
Do higher difficulties add anything more interesting, or are plans just more durable? Playing on standard.
>>749022171Limiting gun ammo is one of the first things you might notice.
>>749022171Ace lets normal enemies pull kobras and shit
>>749022171They'll also do more damage to you
I've been playing PW lately, and haven't played AC7 in a while, and boyI can't turnI can't PITCHPULL UPPULL UPRETARDRETARD
>>749022121I'm still using the pre-order F-14A. Assuming HVAAs and LAAMs have similar behaviour to 7 where their homing turns bullshit once they're in flight long enough, I've been stacking lock range parts to great effect.I want to invest in a multirole next, since I hate doing chip damage to ground targets.
Protagonist nation rankingsEmmeria >>> Osea > FCU > Aurelia > UstioEnemy nation rankingsSotoa >> Belka > Estovakia > Leasath > Erusea > Yuktobania
>>749019316>None of the replies deny this.Lol, faggot Jap-cucked game.
>>749017674I think they're gonna at least try to keep Online alive (probably milk it)
>>749020959>Each pilot has a distinctive demeanour letting you know at a glance what they are like>Swordsman just sits there blankly
>>749022620How about you boot up the game a post a screenshot of one of these 'brown refugee foids' if you aren't schizophrenic?
>>749017417Huh what do you mean anon
>>749022714I think he's talking about that one scene for teaJust disregard the bait, surely you know it's very low quality anyways
Okayso they know that if the land carrier comes back the mission is donebut like huhDoesn't that apply even IF we take Theve back?Why are we doing at theve if the land craft can just come back anyway
>>749022654I sometimes forget that Swordsman and Grimm exist in 5. Chopper at least has his music and his death. Nagase and Bartlett are the only fleshed out squadmates, and one isn't even with you for 90% of the game.
>>749022171Replaying the campaign gets you Ace encounters I've heard.
>>749023087keep playing
>>749023128I know there's going to be reason or something happens, but likein THIS moment, THIS briefing it just sounds like Yeah, we're taking back our home for no reason
>>749023093I'm kinda glad Nagase gets to be happy working on launching rockets nowadays after being in space trying to blow up asteroids for like 7 years right after she fought the most ridiculous war up to that point
>>749023124Ace encounters are triggered by doing specific things in missions, they are entirely independent of difficulty or replaying.
>>749022971It's for morale support
>>749019316>heres my stupid fucking uninformed opinion proving ive never played the game im chirping about.Congrats,you are the designated nigger of this thread, just as useless and irrideemable as a pavement ape.
Can't believe Belkans weren't behind it this time, what the fuck.
>>749020561https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qso2hSkzIc
>>749023387They honestly don't know who did it this time.
>>749019879Definitely Nafris. All that dialogue about desertification is too on the nose for it to be anywhere else.
>>749023387The game is about disinformation and it ends with the bad guys winning. If the Belkans were behind it, it would appear as if they weren't.
>>749020527>10 years later some royal bitch larping as a peasant appropriates your space elevator and, predictably, a bunch of homeless take it over, and they likely absentmindedly dump garbage over the spot your corpse landedwhy the fuck are you people so mad about that despite already pointing out that the space elevator is a symbol of peace, the plot of them being autonomous is literally just Strangereal Singapore holy shit, even the name is similar
>>749019879Sotoa has always been there right? I feel like it has.
>>749023387They definitely were though. As if "Enso Group" would be run by anyone other than Belkans.
>>749023387World with no borders used the belkan reputation as a decoy for their own actions as enso order, and got willingly bought out by general resources to infiltrate their ranks and create ourobouros.
>>749023159Her appearance in M21 was one of the most pleasant surprises in 8, and I didn't even like her all that much in 5.
>>749017453>LLM emdash spamnot sure if this was on purpose
>>749023857People have-Typed like this-And like this>And also like thisFor alotta years before LLMs tho
>>749021626My computer is a potato, I think the only "requirement" I meet is having W11 (gross I know) Despite this I have been able to run it just fine, even got some of the settings to medium. I would at least give it a try before refunding it at least.
>>749023387>>749023696The world has already changed.
>>749020527>finally get freed (through no action of your own) and then build your Epic Peace space elevator>mouthy scrap queen bitch hates you, personally, for "ordering an action" in which her father was killed (despite you being a peacenik and her father being a soldier whose literal job is to fight) and nobody calls her out for the retarded delusions she harbors against you>space elevator you fought so hard for as a symbol of peace is used as a casus belli for usean war #93841I still believe Harling never wanted the Arsenal Birds to be built to "protect" the elevator if we take that painting Rosa and Co. saw where there were no Arse Birds, only Space Elevators, but the current Osean administration or some other group basically forced it onto him.Like what kind of structure for "peace" needs two gigantic murderdrones that have a patrol range that goes deep into fucking Erusea, and the only way to control or hijack the damn things is by invading the elevator itself?
>>749023862
>>749020527>some royal bitch larping as a peasantIsn't it the other way around and Rosa is actually a peasant made to larp as a royal cause she was one of the few people who still had royal blood?
>>749023387>IP from North OseaNice try Belkek
>choose no for most dialogue>nothing changesthe illusion of choices..
>>749024393Yeah I feel like the story should have had another pass so that the Erusean seething was about the Arsenal Birds themselves being a massive territorial violation rather than the ISEV, which was set up in the waters of the INDEPENDENT STATE of Selatapura. Then again, because these are fucking Eruseans we're talking about, they probably lost Selatapura in the aftermath of the 2004 war and refuse to acknowledge its independence because they're assholes.
>>749024462I don't remember the exact timeline but I think Erusea's royal family stepped down sometime prior to Ulysses striking, then afterwards during the crisis the military took over and after the Continental War the royal family was reinstated by the populace.
can I turn off the clouds?I fucking hate this shitI CAN'T SEE SHIT
>>749024393A "peace" that ends with a new Belka
>>749024763just fly around them :)
>>749024763git gud
>>749024763YOU ARE IN THE SKY
>>749024763Just fly into them bro.
the NPC designs in the online mode feels like it's been ripped out of some shitty chink f2p game
Damn this mission was sick. Why was everyone bitching about it?Still I managed to get shot down for the first time in the campaign. S ranked it on my second try though (elite difficulty)
>>749020527He was a moron who cut the defense budget in a world where some nation with superweapons chimps out every couple years
>PC can't run the gameIt's over for me bros. I'll never touch the clouds.
>>749025006They get slapped out of the sky when one does a kulbit and just runs through them
>>749025006People took the wrong planes and wrong missiles. And getting good with gun aim.
>>749024667And then the then-current king and heirs were killed in a car crash, leading them to panic and track down the nearest relation: some rando tailor and his daughter. The new king proved to be pretty spineless and easily manipulated by the Young Erusean Officers, while Princess Rosa happened to have a talent for public speaking, a cute face, and... not much else to be honest, the girl wasn't super sharp. Rosa naturally became the face of Erusea, combining royal grace with a distinct down-to-earth demeanour borne from her middle-class upbringing. She did such a good job at being a Propaganda Princess that she managed to have half the world supporting Erusea's bullshit even after it engaged in an actual war crime with its perfidious surprise attack on Osea via disguised drone launchers aboard civilian ships. She ended up copping the blame for the war going sideways and was nearly killed by the Radical faction for it. The Radicals that STARTED THE WAR THEY WERE LOSING. Goddamn retards. They managed to kill her dad back in Farbanti, leaving her as the only representative of the royal family left. Anyway after all that is said and done, it turned out that the Erusean constitution forbade women from taking the throne. They refused to change it, so they ended up being a Republic again, while Rosa went off to run a refugee support foundation that also happened to control the Space Elevator and its power supply, which she seems to have kept going pretty competently.
It's wild how how the game just runs fine, but the cutscenes absolutely kill the fps because of who fucking knows what raytracing settings those run in.
This game's such an utter failure of character writing I was feeling worse for the Genma cadets dying one after the other crying on comms than I ever did for Kate or Tasha bawling her eyes out. Christ, what an annoying bitch.
>>749024960I wouldn't know I have literally never once touched online and never will.
>>749024960If you look at the credits, the online is developed by a separate team.
>>749024763wait until you go outside
>>749024960200%. The online lobby is so weird, it feels like a theme park for kids while the actual air force guys handle logistics and flight prep in the background. Plus you barely need 90% of the NPCs since most features are accessible from the menu. The only worthwhile feature is the bar playing ACZ's OST on the jukebox.>>749025190It's pretty wild how dumb the Eruseans are. They aren't even responsible for most of their superweapons, they just steal shit from their neighbours or have someone else build it for them.
>>749025006>Sat behind a plane for the full mission timer shooting it with missiles and machine guns>Eventually lose to them killing the allied ships>Turns out there's a bug causing the enemy to become unkillable / stuck in phase 1
Holy fuck the battlepass is so slow to go through, even if I were to play daily and put in the hours, I don't think I'll be able to finish it unless i no-life the game non-stop
>Fatsia is where all the Sotoan military and civilian higher ups live>they LARP the hardest as nomads and shepherds despite never actually doing any of that due to their privileges as tribe leaders and warlords and are the ones exploiting the common people who do do all of that the hardest >throw their entire country into the meat grinder after likely getting egged on by Enso to turn this into their holy war instead of trying to do anything to unfuck the desertification>do things like order the Sotoan regulars to fight to the death despite the battle being clearly lost when while they try to escape in secretNo wonder why Cope turned into a vengeful schizo ghost.
>>749025449Sotoa defined in a single webm would be that one towelhead who kneels down to pray until an AC-130 shell explodes like 10 meters away from him and he goes "FUCK THIS" and starts running like a headless chicken, faith be damned.
>>749025138The kulbit was fucking sick. I actually specifically took the F16 to see I could beat the mission with a meh plane on elite
Is it cracked yet?
>>749025595stop being poor
>>749025449>Fatsia is where all the Sotoan military and civilian higher ups liveI thought it was just a military hub. Their capital is on another megafloat.
>>749016514Why didn't the sotoans invade their smaller neighbors if they needed to leave their desert shithole of their own making instead of invading an entirely different continent? Was the only thing stopping them being Yuktobania?
What is the best plane in the game?
>>749023387the internet was created as away to preserve communications under attack, so that there is no weakpoint, if A wants to talk to B, you'd have to destroy EVERY possible path for the two to connectAn actual working decentralized autonomous organization would be just that, but not for just communication but the chain of command itself. An organization you can't destroy piecemeal, you have to take it all out simultaneously.A functioning DAO would be superweapon. Like a skynet that doesn't just replicate onto other computers, part of it is hidden away inside human heads.so it was Belkans, Enso was just a node in a larger graph, a valuable node that was worth expending all those resources to try and preserve it, but just a node nonetheless
>>749025312Erusea may be French-flavoured but their general demeanour, imperialist desires, and general lack of competency reminds me more of Russia than even Yuktobania does.
>>749025562>>749025006Oh damn these look coolIn my playthrough I just machinegunned them down, like I did 22
>>749025089If you're on Linux, the compatibility layer you're running matters a lotTry a more recent cachyos release for best performance
Does anyone here have the Aces at War 2029 book? I remember an anon in the previous threads said that the reason the FCU was steamrolled by a much smaller nation was because Sotoa somehow managed to pull the entirety of the FCU into some fucked up debt trap. And what happened to Erusea and San Salvacion between 2020 and 2029 since Rose Cossette appears in the game?
>>749025006This mission took me like three minutes to blitz by, to the point where I threw my hands up when it was finished. These two count as bosses apparently, and people had trouble taking them out. The absolute state.
Is online still an easy credit farm like 7?
>>749025863No.Entirely separate tech tress and currencies.Except for Battlepass/DLC planes which when you buy unlock in both.
>>749025917shieeetI really don't feel like grinding in single player, and they fucking added anticheat
>>749025006Are those Valkyries?
>>749025938You can turn off EAC pretty easily, and I've seen people post cheated MRPBut I'm too paranoid to try it myself
>>749025674SU-57 obviously
>>749016878I wouldn't recommend a flight stick for Ace Combat. The Movements you have to do are too "snappy" for a flight stick. Like, I used my HOTAS for Ace Combat 7 and after 1 mission I was like "nah" because I was afraid I was going to break my flight stick by doing all these moves that you need to do in Ace Combat. Stick with a controller. Save your flight stick for MSFS/DCS or similar games
>>749025948Valkyries with variable wings, laser CIWS and drone launchers
>>749017219They need to copy Project Wingman and make your WSO an actual character
I just had the biggest bullshit of all time happen to me in mission 18.I shot down the last rocket just as it left the aerial limit. They showed the cutscene of the rocket falling but because it had left the airspace before my missile hit it, it didn't count as mission completed. Fucking retarded devs how did they let this bug slip through.
>>749025657I thought Yuktobania was their only neighbour? And they already lost to them 20 years ago.>>749025674Best overall aircraft is probably the Su-57.>QAAM and HCAA for pure A2A>QAAM and LACM for mixed operationsHowever, since some missions have carrier restrictions, the F/A-18E and Rafale are also viable contenders.
>>749026136I can't believe rex retired to being a navigator again
>>749025387The idea is probably that you play dailyish, do the daily missions for a level or two and the ~7-8 weeks of weekly missions for 5 levels each.It definitely needs some tweaking though.
>>749026172Fuck off, redditfrog poster.
>>749025628I used the wrong words like a retard.Sotoa seems like it's a military junta so I mean all of the people who are in charge even if they're not actively commanding things in their armed forces.
>>749018297>planes are lined up in a formation where its literally the Terminus Fingers emblemKINOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>749025657Story made it seem like Usea had a hard time keeping the federation intact. After Expo City got fragged from the orbit the various nations seceded and allowed Usea to waltz right in.
>>749026215Looking at the new map, Sotoa has at least 2-3 smaller neighbors but I am not entirely sure if those are countries or Yuke provinces. AC5's invasion map of Yuktobania shows their territorial extent but I don't fully rememeber the size of the western Yuke border.
i boughted the ace pass for the adfx-01 morganim sorry
>>749026252Insane post for 2026
>>749025006>easy to get loadout cucked if you look at the briefing, see no targets, and assume that you'll be doing long-range interceptions on attackers or cruise missiles coming into the area>only get a few dozen seconds to shoot at them until they dive out of range, after which it takes about a minute to catch up, so it feels frustrating if you don't do enough in that short window of time you can even hit them>if you don't bring a fast plane you're probably completely fucked from mission start [citation needed]mind you this is just my immediate thoughts, I wasn't aware people hate this mission
>>749026401Just use a different plane every once in a while
>enemy AI just straight up cheatsfuck this shitty game
>>749026464But you can do that too
>>749026464Are you talking the Kulbit?
>>749026464He was clearly below the speed limit necessary for PSM maneuvers, like you
>>749026401>>749026440To be fair, this is the first time PA have given us the ADFX-02 with multiple SpW. Every other time it's just 01 with only one SpW.
>>749026409Based Sukhoichad Aurafarming the nugget
>"we need you to pretend to be this LEGEND who actually never shot anyone down but he's a LEGEND so just go with it">shoot down like 200 enemy aircraft as soon as I take over>"yeah I know it's hard to pretend to be the LEGNEND" but just keep it up"Why doesn't the cryptobro just record my gun cam footage and put it on the internet? That technology has existed since the 1940s fuckin zoomer ass retard.
>>749026428I can't remember if the mission is carrier restricted, but all the midgame planes are maneuverable and fast enough for it, starting with the super Hornet with qaams and enough speed to stick to its ass for gunning.Catching up to the planes is also a lot more dependent on the trajectory you take while chasing, trying to follow their high g maneuvers is a fools errand when you can follow slightly behind and point your nose at where they'll be as opposed to where they're at right now.I'm pretty sure the mission is doable with the starting f14, though obviously not comfortable.
>>749026428the very earliest threads right after early access definitely had people also hating on itmy personal problem is that not being able to lock on means I don't know if I'm in proper gun range, I'm not talking about the reticle, I'm talking about just being in range to hit it
VERY new to ace combat.Finally got a game and everyone said it was shit.What is a good intro game?I'll figure out the story I just want to fly around and shoot dudes,as in an easy intro.
>>749026670Have you seen TZD footage?Actual gore and kill vids aren't actually appealing to the vast majority of people
>>749022654It's not even swordsman, it's just a photograph of cuba gooding jr.
>>749025674I fucking love the Su-57 for dogfights or clustered ground targets but the F-22 or F-35 is probably better.You also really want a Growler as one of your wingmates so you need to go down the US side of the tree anyway
>>749026670Kek yeah, it was kinda weird. Like obviously by the 3rd mission our kill count would've been in the hundreds so there was no reason to keep "pretending" to be Cope when we were already far superior to him
>>749023909Yes—but nobody ever type like this.
>>749026743Basically all of them are awesome except AH. Whichever one you bought is probably a perfectly fine place to start.
>>749026743Ac7 is much easier for new players in that it "only" has classic bullshit like enemies that pull high g maneuvers and all the gimmick missions only do 1 or 2 gimmick at a time.8 has long ass missions where you do multiple kinds of approach angles and trickshots. The only equivalent in 7 is (manually) downing the arsenal birb.
>>749026357After the Lighthouse war, the FCU expanded to include every single Usean country sans San Salvacion and Erusea but that came with more problems than benefits. The western part of the FCU was doing financially very well while the eastern part was falling behind economically.
>>749026743Did you preorder Ace Combat 8? If so you got AC0 for free which I would consider the perfect entry point into the Ace Combat series, so start with that. Otherwise you could emulate Ace Combat 4 5 or Zero
>>749026428And you Callao also shoot missiles at them even if you don't have lock on yet but are close enough. They fly in a straight line for a long time.
>>749026928NTA but has anyone tried this version of AC0? Does it deal with KBM controls well?
>>749025751>like I did 22lol you machinegunned shadow 22 to death? no you didnt.
>>749026694The gun pipper appears at 1200m, and I'm pretty sure the actual bullets can travel further than that. It just so happens that the ECM prevents locks until you get to 1200~1500m.>>749026672I'd argue the E Super Hornet is the best aircraft for that mission. 6AAM plus QAAM is a particualy potent combo against the bombers. And as you said, raw speed is less important than predicting their flight paths and cutting turns to close distance easier. Somehow I got S rank on my first attempt using the F Super Hornet with only 4AAMs.
>>749026694You can't get missile lock or you're not getting any hud data at all?
>>749026743>Finally got a game and everyone said it was shit.Which game? They're pretty much all fine, except Assault Horizon and Joint AssaultFor newcomers specifically though I'd say either 7 or 4, 7 is>recent, goes on sale often>on PC>specifically designed for newcomers (has a good set of tutorial missions at the start)>sets up 84 is>free>easy to emulate>very simple in terms of gameplay, you fly around and shoot dudes>sets up the entire series after the PS1 games8 is pretty good but it might be a struggle, I couldn't tell you what it's like on lower difficulties
>>749026670>>749026843DD does start using footage from your sorties instead of AI generated slop from Grok once you turn out to be the real deal.
Post Kino BGMhttps://youtu.be/Ohg6shyt0Sc?si=PLwh58vVjV-W-cP9
>>749026743The only bad entries in the franchise are Assault Horizon and Advance. Everything else is decent. Generally the best way to do it is just go AC4 to AC5 to ACZ to AC6 to AC7 and finally AC8. You can throw X in there at some point. Assault Horizon Legacy, despite the name, is a remake of AC2. Throw AC3 Fan translation in there if you are comfortable with playing something older because setting wise the franchise is still heading towards AC3.
>>749026928>Recommending the pick your warcrime adventure as the entry pointFor narrative reasons please recommend 4 or 7, thank you
>>7490267437 or one between 4,5,0, depends if you care about graphics. I'd say play them all if you found yourself enjoying AC
>>749026904What the fuck are you smoking, it took until Mission 25 for a single mission in 8 to compare to Long Day in AC7. 8's easier than 7.
Retard whose first plane game was AC7 here. I've crushed Elite difficulty and am heading to AC0 before attempting Ace. >>749027006He'd posted so much AI by that point nobody believed him.
>>749026994Also I would not START with AC8. There's too much connection to Ace Combat 7 that someone skipping 7 would be confused with the events of AC8. 8 is basically a direct sequel to 7 with how the events go.
>>749026967I was chasing 26 with MG saving QAAMs for 22 when he decided to fly next to 26 then suddenly I get the cutaway to the crash
>>749025778Nope just someone who hasn't upgraded in a while AI bubble crash when
>>749026915Also looks like North Point isn't part of the FCU, if only to keep Mobius 1 from terrorising ANOTHER nation.
>>749026975you can start shooting at targets at like 2000m but I don't know if the projectile travel time makes it look longer, which is why I said I'm not talking about the reticle>>749026986no data at all until you're right on their butts at <1000m, it's one of those missions where you're supposed to look for them in the middle of the ECM jamming zone (which is really small but still)
>>749027083>Struggling with clearing a ground attack missionSolitary, now
The Sotoan infantry must suck ass if like 2000 guys can retake an entire city in like an hour.
>>749027083I'm annoyed that Long Day filtered so many people, the equivalent mission in 8 with the solar plants doesn't have any interesting geography in comparison to Long Day's tunnel and canyon base, probably because people kept wasting time with the canyon base
>>749027103>He'd posted so much AI by that point nobody believed himConsidering some people thought that Rex was the real deal even before Ray came into the picture, switching to real combat footage would be easier for Enso and DD to use.
Sillyposting aside I'm enjoying this game so much. What I love about AC games is that when I play one it instantly makes me think of all of them at the same time. So many S-tier moments rushing through me while I get to enjoy a new game. Fuck it's good to be back.
>>749027189frankly the fact that your escort targets can still die makes the score attack aspect pointless
>>749027298>Long Day's tunnelbecause they put that in Mission 4 instead
>The defend rocket shit mission is an annihilation missionWeird, I have no idea how you can actually clear the launch pad enough to go and refuel and rearm. Felt like planes and ships were constantly coming.
>>749027284*1999 guys doing jackshit and one pilot clearing every obstacle in their way
>>749027298Long Day filtered people in Ace Combat 7?I use the Tomcat on that mission all the time.
>>749027138They're supposed to throw flares for each other but I guess he forgotI had a bug on that level where my own team would swoop in to drop flares for 26 when he was the last guy left and it kept fucking up my missiles
>>749027378IIRC, only attacker aircraft can actually hit the launch site and control centre, so you can ignore the Fishbeds and F-16s. The only ships are the two small fleets that appear at the start, once those are gone you can swap to pure A2A. Plus the EW aircraft trivialise A2A, since the ESM turns your regular missiles into weak-but-rapidfire QAAMs.
>like 2 months before the game released>Tasha's face everywhere>the hot cool new pilot everyone is fawning over for>a bunch of people pre-order the game for Tasha alone>release day comes and boot up the game>"Hey Coster!">"I'll cover you Coster">"I'll be your wingman Coster">"I got you Coster">"What do you think Coster?">"Going with Coster!">"Say something Coster!"I'm never falling for this bullshit ever again....
>>749027378I didn't even realize until I hit the score limit
>>749027329I'm just glad that it validated my feelings that 7 was a bit off. I liked 7 but it was subtly off in a way I can't really describe. I was willing to just chalk it up to me being older, but 8 feels like it's properly a return to form and if anything I'm more miserable and jaded than I was when 7 released.It still isn't able to overcome my nostalgia for the old ones but that's fine, I wasn't expecting it to.
I find it funny that Sotoa, for some reason, allowed countries in Usea to secede and leave them be when their objective was to completely take over Usea.
>>749027531As someone who preferred Kate, I won.
Exploring older games since I loved 7 and 8 so much. What other games are good? Currently playing 6 and it's also really fun
>>749027483Right? But if you're new to the series I can understand why attacking the canyon base would be a problem, you're still figuring out how to fly and that's a lot of walls to shoot around/avoid crashing intoThey give you like 30 minutes to do the first mission for a reason, it's about getting your bearings more than anything else
>>749027531Thats why Rexchads get Kate at the end, canonically
>>749027138>I was chasing 26 with MG saving QAAMs for 22 when he decided to fly next to 26oh yeah, for some reason the shadows sometimes hang around in front of you to shit out flares in your face. i got one of them that way by pumping him full of standard missiles without even waiting for the lock.
>>749027531Did you actually think she was going to be a romancable character or something? She's there for the player to care about, not the player character.
>>749027531She's just exercising her motherly instinct anon. Coster is clearly an autistic simpleton who needs to be closely looked after.
>>749027578Same
>>7490275577 went through development hell and multiple rewrites, Daredevil was a literal last minute additionIt's a miracle it did as well as it did and brought the series back enough that 8 could happen
>>749027531>like 2 months before the game released>Tasha's face everywhere???None of the marketing I saw was like this
>>749027531>Thought I'd end up hating this bitch>Play the game>Don't think about her at all because she barely does fucking anythingIf anything I'm left wanting for SOMETHING. Her and Coster feel so tacked on.
>>749027531>waifufags get baitedkek
>>7490275844, 5, and 0 are the bestSome people like 3. Playing 3 will elevate your enjoyment of 8's story
>>749027765(The Japanese version of 3)
>>749027006>>749027103Whatever footage you could get out of Ray is likely more unbelievable than any AI generated war footage.
>>749027531All AC protagonists are planesexual. If she doesn't have thrust vectoring I'm not interested.
>>749027584If you haven't played the PS2 trinity, do so as soon as you can. If you can find a physical copy or a modded PS2, play them this way but emulators are also good enough to play them but you have to do some messing with the settings to get some graphics/stutters to work properly. X is pretty good and the easiest to emulate since PPSSPP needs little setting up. Joint Assault is serviceable but weak on the story and despite being set in the real world, it's just as wacky as normal AC.
>>749027807Oh, right. Forgot the circumcised version even exists. What the fuck were they thinking!?
>>749027695he didn't say marketing specifically
>>749027531Coster is too autistic to speak and she spent just as much effort crying about the other two who got shot down
>>749027727Yeah same. At least Baxter was your primary backup and had a decent story. Coster has his uhhh... music club he fangirls over. But then Tasha, like holy shit she does NOTHING. I beat the game and I don't even know her at all other than she's an acrobatic civvie pilot and doesn't shoot planes down. That's it. That's her entire character for 30 missions because the game does NOTHING with her. A total letdown.
>>749027727I thought her downing someone for the first time would have more gravitas and have aftereffects. Instead, she just sort of brushes past it.
>>749027816>You telling me this guy flew into a tunnel? Multiple times?>>749027834Blaze and Trigger definitely banged Nagase and Avril
>>749027834AC game with Aeromorphs fucking WHEN!!?!?!
>>749027584Something people rarely mention is Sky crawlers Innocent Aces. Yes. It's a licensed game, but it is still very much a Project Aces game at heart and has all the hallmarks of an Ace Combat game. It also completely changes the context of the movie.
>>749027727Baxter was your main bro so he got all the focus, but I liked how him and Rex were the older members in their squad looking out for the younger members.
>>749027871>>You telling me this guy flew into a tunnel? Multiple times?
>>749027856I thought Purple Magic needed to appear in one more mission before dying, it felt like they were trying to speedrun character development for Coster that barely ended up mattering since he doesn't lock in or really do much of note until Baxter's death.Tasha feels like she's there more to justify the involvement of her parents (Dad 'just knowing' all these Yuke connections, Mom shooting down Tewy 20 years ago).
>>749027982I like the idea that Rex was actually just 25, but Bax NEEDED a fellow unc or his mental state would collapse.
>>749027858in a meta sense I guess they don't want to retread the whole "I killed someone" plot when the player already is militaryin-universe I think the people around her were trying to protect her from the fact so she just got over it offscreen
>>749027727The wingmen characters generally don't really get as much focus as people think outside of Pixy.Even in 5, yeah nagase gets remembered a bit because she's a girl, Chopper gets remembered because he dies, but grimm and snow barely existed.
>>749027531That's why you don't think witch your dick anon.
>>749028048Don't forget that in one of the briefings the XO is saying that Enso feeding the war is a Belkan conspiracy. Imagine your country being famous but for exactly the wrong reasons but it's plausible Enso may have some Belkans in the upper echelons with how decentralised this organisation is.
>>749019316I dunno, anon. The supposed bad guys are all "what if we got rid of borders and shit?" if anything I think this game might be a bit chud coded.
>>749028241>it's plausible Enso may have some Belkans
>>749028090Rex says he's "an old war horse" so maybe he does have military experience in some previous Usean conflict, the most recent one being the Lighthouse war.
>>749025194It's not even the raytracing that's the issue. It's all the super high polycount models being rendered, whether you're looking at them or not. Even the hairs on each character are indiviually modeled. This is probably why the game is twice filesize it needs to be.
>>749027531lmao
>>749021839>that's what he should've focused on if he wanted peace, finding the fighter pilots with CHIM and pulling every string to put them under PKF or something
>>749028292I thought the bit of Belka that Osea claimed was "North Osea". When did North Osea become most of the contient?
>>749028321Didn't Cope say that when you meet him? I don't recall Rex ever saying anything. But it would also make sense for Rex to be of a more mature age if he was pushed into Cope's role.
>>749028292>leasath hitSomeone in enso order got btfo by the gleipnir.
Since the ending confirms that the events of AC3 will happen, do GR and Neucom have global outreach across the globe controlling countries or are they just localised only at Usea?
>>749027918If we are going to mention ace combat likes please please PLEASE play Crimson Skies. It is so underrated and generally glossed over and it is such a fucking shame.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A8eiA1jhXc
>>749018557>if I make shit up in the early morning hours nobody can call me on itdont be retarded on purpose, faggot.
>>749028457Belka tried to clame ustio as their own territory, north osea backed ustio and pushed them back.
>>749028560I mean that's obviously not true since they get destroyed in all reaction based sports and video games
>>749028503If 7's DLC is any indication GR has connections to Osea, and considering Enso is global and got folded into them it's probably a safe betFor Neucom it probably depends on how much they took from GR during the divorce, though ACX/Aurelia is filled with Neucom prototypes so they're likely down there, at least
>mfw the entire Lighthouse chapters and Princess Cosette returningHoly fuck. Outstanding job from Project Aces. Now if only a certain unnamed pilot with three strikes on its tail streaked across the sky and obliterated a bunch of enemies before disappearing during the attack on the Lighthouse
>>749028138No I remember Nagase because she never fucking shuts and moaning about muh peace muh peace for 15 minutes after every mission while I'm waiting for the mission to finish.Shut the fuck already, Jesus Christ.I fucking hate 5 so fucking much.
>>749028457Geographically speaking, you could separate Osea into north and south at that inland sea.
>>749021839>7's DLC confirmed that the superpilots that seem to appear in every war are identifiable in-universeHow?
>>749028503Enso Order was global, and at least from my pov it's heavily implied that GR is a new front for those behind Enso Order, as D.D. points out that all Enso Order properties are sold off and then acquired by subsidiaries of those who are likely were behind Enso, but it's impossible to prove, due to how Enso Order was structured. The exact thing you see happen in the picture at the end, where the Enso Order building gets turned in a GR building.
>>749028708I think Trigger would be retired by the time AC8 begins
>play ac7>quit by mission 2, holy shit this is boring>play nuclear option>now THIS is podracing>actually feels like a sim rather than an arcade game>play pvp for hours
>>749028708Calm down, Fukuda.
>>749028665>though ACX/Aurelia is filled with Neucom prototypes so they're likely down there, at leastI wouldn't be surprised if supplementary lore reveals that those are of erusean design when the EASA was one part of Neucom and they have the capacity to design/build new jets IE the X-02 series.
>>749028473Enso was hitting all of their own facilities to cover shit up. They were a global megacorp with shit all over the planet.
>>749028786Singularities? That entire cutscene plot with David and Alex the AI?It's more of a statistics thing than anything else, as in "if this guy is enough of a statistical anomaly, his effectiveness scales infinitely" or something>>749028885It's a possibility, but they've hauled Mobius 1 out of storage for lessTrigger's probably banging Avril still
>>749028930Why sim fags continue to barge into AC threads and announce how much they didn't like it?
>>749028786NTA but David North's AI assistant claims that pilots like Trigger are anomalies that somehow spontaneously appear out of thin air. Nobody knows how, not even the AI, but if the anomaly is on your side the war is guaranteed to be won by your side otherwise you are fucked.
>>749028941The plot in Seed Freedom mostly happens because Kira and Lacus become depressed idiots at the worst possible moment
>controller battery runs out mid-mission>start using mouse and keyboard>Controls actually kinda make senseMFWIt is not great but serviceable.
>>749028786That's the mean plot of the DLC anon. Pilots like Rex, Blaze, and Cipher are anomalies anon. That's why the Osea general tried to kill Trigger by using the assassin twins.
>>749028867The impression I got is that GR inherited the resources of Enso only in Usea which allowed them to expand all over Usea. I always thought that GR was first and foremost a Usean company.
>>749028712>foid that cant shut up about peace>gets paired up with a literal demon possessed>carried by said demon past multiple acts of insurrection against ACTUAL BELKANS>immediately jettisoned into space right after
>>749016953It fucking sucks, I'm 11 or 12 missions in and i haven't heard a single piece of music that was memorable, I should have known it was going to be shit when they announced kono was taking a step back. It's dragging the whole game down and its making me realise that the ace combat formula just doesn't work without good music.
>>749028997>>749029093IIRC, David was also evaluating Torres as a potential singularity.
>>749028930>Ace Combat is a arcade game >:(No fucking shit anon
>>749029261What was this guys' fucking problem?Seriously, I honestly don't remember.
>>749029242Singularity? No. But it did identify Torres as batshit insane after he spend 3-5 years under the sea before the Eruseans somehow found him.
>>749029362He went insane and wanted to stop the war by nuking Osea's capital.
I've seen discussion on how massive levels of anime cheese is a hallmark of the series, yet when I think about AC4, I don't sense any of it. For the most part its story feels like a fairly grounded war drama, albeit in a setting that does have a few absurd super weapons. I think it struck a special balance in its tone that I'd love to see again, but I don't think we ever will.
>>749029362People on Strangereal quickly begin to go insane if they're unable to see the sky.
>>749029242Yeah it's clear that non-pilots can also be singularities, but air force is best force in Ace Combat>>749029362He spent a year in a submarine that couldn't surface and went completely insane
>>749028503>the events of AC3 will happenCanonically the events of AC3 don't actually happen since It's all a simulation running over and over again to test possible outcomes and events should a conflict between the corporations break out.
>>749029413I feel the same way, it's a shame but I'll always hold 4 in very high regard for doing it
>>749028997>if this guy is enough of a statistical anomaly, his effectiveness scales infinitelya better way to think about it is that singularities are "independent variables", everything else is a "dependent variable"so as long as you know what the singularity(ies) will do you can predict what everything else will do
>>749029413It feels just as anime as the rest of 'em to me.
>>749029470More specifically it's to test whether Nemo will kill Dision regardless of what happens during that war, since Cohen is really, really mad about being cuckedAnd Nemo does, so Cohen sets it free
>>749029404>>749029417IIRC, even before the Alicorn getting stuck at the bottom of the ocean, he was removed from his teaching position and put under house arrest for "disseminating dangerous ideas".
>>749029362IQ too high, don't listen to them planecucks don't want to fix strangereal they want to blow each other up with F-22s
>>749029362He broke the conditioning and realized that every country would keep having chimpouts unless something was done.Unfortunately the only tools he had on hand were nuclear weapons with a 5000km range and a small airforce.
>>749029704>An Erusean is TOO crazyA scary thought
>tfw the supersonic bomber does cobraIt wasn't that useful but it was cool anyway.
>>749029775>He broke the conditioning and realized that every country would keep having chimpouts unless something was done.well... Can't really argue with that.
>>749029414>>749029417I thought the schizos at Fort Grays were going to be meta commentary on how Usea always gets fucked
>>749029470>spoilerI'm well aware that AC3 is a simulation but I should have worded it better. The events leading up to AC3 will happen such as Dision getting his mind sublimated, Yoko and Dision getting assassinated by GR, tensions between the real GR and Neu rising and Simon creating Nemo
>>749029704>>749029404Torres was implied to be a "singularity" because the AI could not figure out who'd win when he and Trigger met. Torres is written to be a kind of dark mirror to Trigger (score obsessed, has a crew that'd gladly die for him but he misleads them for his own ends, just wants to shoot shit like a psycho)Torres' crew were essentially enraptured in a cult of personality around the master submarine captain who just wanted to shoot cool railguns for lols, everything he says is just excuses which is why he's a good villain, he's like those people who make "human safaris" in warzones like the balkans but worse cause he's got nukes and is actually good at shooting
Not ashamed to admit I soijacked so hard at this part
>>749029894they made her hotter here than she did in AC7
>>749016514I'm out of challenges for Multiplayer and grinding ranks is taking FOREVER. How the fuck are people maxxed out already? Are they just playing non-stop? I just wanna get new planes.
>>749016953>>749029231you are just fat gays with autism 8 has one of the best OSTs in the franchise
>>749030009rank xp and your battle pass are different thingsI'm pretty sure rank xp is constant and there's no bonuses or modifiers or anything
>suicide trucks and blowing up the 2(3) towers in the same mission Inshallah the Sotoans shall know the taste of my sword.
>>749029989I think they had a proper character designer in AC8 while AC7 was just winging it because it didn't matter as much.
>>749029989That's an old image they used as a stand in. Here's what Nagase really looks like in 2030.
I'll spare her on every playthrough from now onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16S-byT1Io
>>749030101Yeah, Rank XP looks to be 100 per sortie regardless of result.
>>749030152I love how she spawns right in front of you at cannon range and dies instantly
>>749017368>Possibly even a quick shorter game like 5->0 pipelineThe issue with multiple teams making games at around the same time to release them quicker is that teams do not talk to each other, and that means one title might have features that the other doesn't. I would absolutely hate it if the next Ace combat didn't have two subweapons, it's such a great change that makes multiroles really come into their own for mixed objective missions like Theve II.
>>749030152>You can spare themJesus. I blitzed them so fast and hard I didn't even get to hear if they had voicelines lamenting the deaths of the vets because all I heard was them panicking over comms.
>>749030152I won't fuck that bitch and Sotoan too
>>749030065I was turning up the music every 20 minutes in AC7 and i was replaying missions because i just wanted to hear the OST again. I haven't had that feeling at all with AC8, either the music is shit or the mixing is fucked and it just fades into the background, im leaning toward it being mediocre because it just sounds generic to me. It doesn't even feel like it meshes well with the action, its emotionally all over the place.
>>749029989>>749029894Since this is like 10 years after AC7 she actually got hotter with ageShe's like 23 in AC5, should be 33 in AC7, then 44 here.
>>749030152>>749030193>Rex those are just rookies leave them alone>Rex stop shootin->REX STOP
>>749030152I won't. I have no mercy for Sotoans.
>>7490303138 needed some yellow marked civilian targets to destroy to be honest
>>749026136Mandating that you play two seater planes so that your WSO waifu has a reason to come on missions would suck.
>>749027531lol
>>749016953I wish our side is the one with the chanting instead of the shadows. We got a shitty rock band instead.
>>749030152Interesting, I went up and killed her mentor guys then back down and butchered all those so I never heard this
>>749030065literally name one track, nothing stands out
>>749030152I wonder how long it'll be until someone draws her a fan design.
>>749030375
>>749030375She looks like a 12 year old.
>>749030402NTA but Frostwave>b-but i-Well, I liked it.
>>749030375Her card is 9 cents less than Kate's and 4 cents less than Baxter's proving her inferiority.
>>749030337That just makes you as bad as Sotoans, buddy.
>>749030483>if you kill your enemies, they win
holy fuck the FA-36 is twitchy to control
retarded question but how do I do a NG+? There's "reset campaign" but won't that delete all your data? And the only option on "continue campaign" just replays chapter 30
>>749030351Skill issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0wchRANCdE
>>749030604Wouldn't you just have to play Free Mission?
>>749030604New Game brings over all of your stuff you unlocked and gives you access to Multiplayer planes + secret unlock fighters.
>>749030604it literally says you still keep your unlocks man
>>749030350....I was not supposed to destroy all those tents and windmills in zero?
>>749027284The Sotoans give the vibe of being hard-carried by mechanised support, especially from their battleships. When they don't have railgun barrages over the horizon slapping people's shit, they fold pretty easily.
>>749030375kek even
>>749030696>if i can lock on it it is an enemyyou will make amazing soldier anon
>>749030540Is it bad to control? I just need a few more points to unlock it.
>>749030402Ez. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3JfHrEV78oThey went with a more backround music focused style this time instead of the hype soundtrack 7 had. I like both.
>>749030696nah it's fine they give you a shiny medal for destroying all of them they clearly deserve it
>>749030604"Restart Campaign" just puts you back on mission 1 with a difficulty select prompt first. You keep the existing aircraft tree unlocks.
>>749029362he had super sanity
>>749030152Aww, did the side that shoots down bailed out soldiers toss your untrained rookie squadron into combat against the gigafuck death machine? sucks to suck, sotoan dog.
>>749029598Fucks sake I always think that thumbnail is a Spongebob screenshot
Points are Points. If I can lock onto it, I fire. Simple as. Color be damned
>>749029362he had a midlife crisis and wanted an excuse to go down in history as the greatest gunner ever, with credit for stopping the war to boot
>>749030527Then just start shooting Sotoan parachutes when they bail out.
>>749030609Yeah, whatever dude, I'd rather have contextual freakouts from my wingmen based on what plane I'm flying or forced them to fly. Imagine Tasha freaking the fuck out because I decided I'd kiss death on the cheek that morning and do an air superiority mission in an A-10.
>>749030978I want to make a family with lenna
>>749030978>>749030992<< B-but that's a warcrime...! >>
>>749030609<< DIE YOU S.O.B.!!! > >
>>749031028><< B-but that's gay! >>
>>749030992I hope the DLC has more 22 and 11.
>>749030350I mean, most missions you're flying over stuff that you are trying to protect. doing a terrorism on your own soil defeats the hope aspect of Wings?
>>749030763M O R A L EORALE support
>>749030351>>749030609Just make it so instead of a WSO you have an AI GF going with you.
>>749016878not for Ace Combat. this is pew pew arcade where you happen to be plane, not flight sim
>>749031091On the contrary, doing false flag attacks could cause the sheep to rally behind the wings even more.
>>749030483I want to be worse. I want to blow up their civilian megafloat.
I miss the pressure sensitive radar button so much bros.
Should've used a mirror to reflect the Tonitrus targeting laser back to the megafloat.
>>749017157<<Yeehaw cowboys surround them>>
>New Aircraft Part unlocked: Drop Tanks.......what exactly do these do?
>>749031291Same, I shouldn't have to press the button three times just to glance at the whole field or get a clear view of what's nearby.
Did you guys know you can increase the Lobby density of online so that more people show up? ;o
>>749031334They drop ground forces
>>749031334RP cosmetic.
>>749018563approved. this at least sounds like AC level crazy. cheery on top: your killing blow explodes it all the same, killing everybody you knew and love despite your "victory". classic japs
>>749018456>Hating on 360 degree unobstructed vision. The f-16 is function over form, I cannot hate the only choice with a bubble canopy before unlocking the F-22.
>>749030483>If you defend yourself, you're just as evil as your attacker
>>749031310I don't think that's how targeting lasers work
>>749018456>He doesn't what 360 degree view
>>749031310this but the Excalibur
>>749030152Yeah I left the FNGs alone. I knew it'd get grim, but that... that there's just fucked.
>>749030796not bad, but very very light-feeling compared to everything prior. high-g turns like a... bird.
People who say that the soundtrack sucks obviously cant appreciate dadrock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7diQ6F904>>749031334Devs saw Top Gun 2 and thought it was cool when they jettisoned them before entering the operations zone.
>>749031576>Devs saw Top Gun 2 and thought it was cool when they jettisoned them before entering the operations zoneYeah... top gun 2 invented drop tanks.
>>749031123>AI waifuThat's like wanting to replace Cope or Dealer on comms. Absolutely disgusting.
>>749031576yes i dont. i get it but not for me
>you have to grind campaign missions just to get the platinum trophyat least there's not multiplayer trophies / achievements but seriously? I already have to play through the campaign twice since they lock the hardest difficulty behind beating the game once on the second hardest.
>>749027531She's the baby of the group and everyone wants to protect her. Coster is her number 2 and he wants to look out for her cause he's coping about being unable to protect his idols.
>>749031617I was thinking something more like having the plane's system be able to give mission commentary from time to time now that they should have near human-like AI. Maybe it could be someone who was sublimated.
>>749030665Are there multiplayer exclusive planes or can I get all of them through the campaign tree?
>>749031663Achievements are a waste of time.
>>749029775>>749029858Fucking this.It is actually hilarious how many wars this place has with massive superweapons.
>>749031681like armored core. but yeah they are missing a few good ideas and are almost all over the place with characterization.
>>749031739I believe it's any MP battle pass plane can also be used in SP.
>>749031681I got it. next game has you gathering field test data with a harem of drones.
>>749031739There are no multiplayer locked planes yet but you do need to beat campaign once to use Morgan if you paypigged for it.
>>749031681I thought that's where they were going with Cope but it never got more than schizobabble
>>749031681>Maybe it could be someone who was sublimated.Sublimation is a huge meme, it has never been portrayed in a good light. Dision hated it and even mocked Cynthia for thinking it's some kind of paradise.
I replayed PW, this time mercenary difficulty. Wow, now I remember why I quit the game after finishing the campaign. The final boss and the end are terrible. Overall PW is worse than I remember. Missions are too repetitive, too many enemies, too few enemy types.
>>749031840>>749031918That's good. I don't really want to play multiplayer so I don't want to miss out on any planes.
>>749024763The couds affect gameplay by providing cover for you and enemy planes. Cloud cover can make you lose a missile tailing you.
>>749031681I honestly assumed this was going to be a thing in 7 when we saw this thing in the back of Mihaly's plane.
Multiplayer is full of niggercattle that can't win games for shit, playing assault, and instead of going after ground targets/air targets, and then after players, they B-line towards the players, get fucked, and we all lose on score, because I'm the only one going for everything else.
>>749032035This would be an issue if I can have the attitude indicator in the third person plane viewNo! the height isn't the same, i don't know what fucking direction I'm facing when I'm flying through it.
>>749031747So is literally anything else, what's your point?
>>749024393>what kind of structure for "peace" needs two gigantic murderdronesliterally ever single onetrue peace is an unachievable concept, some time some day if you have something nice and someone else doesn't, they will try to take it from youthe only way to achieve peace is to arm yourself with the biggest stick to protect itwe live in the most peaceful era in history simply because everyone is armed to the teeth
>>749031967Well, that could help the plot, no? You fly your plane with someone sublimated into it who was forced to fight with you, but eventually you get on their side to try and find a way to reverse it or something idk.
>>749026915>After the Lighthouse war, the FCU expanded to include every single Usean country sans San Salvacion and EruseaAnd North Point. Sotoans explicitly avoided northpoint because they feared the legend of Mobius 1.
Nothing makes you hate ace combat more than playing ace combat
>>749032107I used to struggle with that. Recently I took my Foxbat into a match and just launched Fox 3's at enemy players from far away. I'd turn around and make another pass and never get close to anything. I got like 40k points swatting players and won the match. It's hard to kill players in dogfights but when you're far away they assume the missile warning is some dumbass SAM that won't connect lol.
>>749031992PW is good for an indie dev's attempt at making Ace Combat, but by that same measure it lacks a lot of polish you'd normally expect from Ace Combat. Plus being able to bring two SpW in AC8 takes away one of PW's strong points (and technically you could run two SpWs all the way back in Joint Assault, but that game sucks).
>>749025674I hate to say it, but probably the Rafale.
>>749027727>Her and Coster feel so tacked on.They were. They're eye candy for men and foids respectively.
>>749032110>people still believe 3rd person is the meta
>>749031967>Ace Valhalla is actually real>Electrosphere lets you upload your mind but not your soul>Your ghost can't ever get its rest because the rest of you is in a digital world with no roots or windElectrosphere got even more fucked up with this game
>>749025674Rafale if you mean the most versatile. it is really hard to beat LAAM+LACM loadout.
>>749032107B1/2 in ACI solved this issue in the naval battle PvP by carrying the score end of things. We need dedicated bombers back for ACO.
Do we have any word on if and when we get some story DLC?
so is the game good? 7 was great with the story, the glorious OST and the over the top shit in the last mission, even the dlc ones with Torres were amazing
>Nagase and Blaze confirmed>Trigger and Avril confirmed>Rex and Kate confirmed[/spoilers]/ourguys/ can't stop winning
>>749032107>Fighters dive bombing ground targets removing easy clusters of points for our own attackers instead of attacking the literal cloud of planes just above their heads.
>>749032512Dedicated multirole ground pounders carry score in online here too. Hell fucking intruders and prowlers are often has mvp.
>>749032626>Bunch of shot down losers and a nowings
>>749032110>i don't know what fucking direction I'm facing when I'm flying through it.If you're ever unsure, then just press both bumpers so the plane orients itself and puts the ground under you.
>>749032573I'm unreasonably fond of 7 even while I acknowledge its flaws, and IMO 8 is fucking great.
>>749032626Poor Cosette gets left behind and her Lighthouse almost destroyed
i think the problem with co-op warfare is that there's literally no point in going after npc jets and ground targets. the game turns into team deathmatch half way through because you just earn more points going after other players once you get ace
>>749032719auto pilot levels you out, but it doesn't maintain altitude, sometime it even dips, so if you come out at the wrong angle and hit it, you could just fly straight into the ocean
>>749032626Poor cipher, forever without his buddy
>>749018545>cannot be killed by other pilots>a sheep absolutely knocks his shit outNo wonder cope was going on about how big sotoan sheep were, they may be the most dangerous animal in strangereal.
>>749032472The meta is obviously the FPS view without the cockpit because of the shitty zoomed in FOV.
>>749032781The other way around. It is much easier to farm ground for points than try to score player kills.
>>749032782Not being able to look at the altimeter in the middle of the screen is a skill issue.
Debra fit well into the role of an XO. Should've given her a bun instead of braids tho.
just finished the game bros really good
>>749033041She's a good voice actorwestern devs are just all mongoloids who love face capture
>>749032002I believe the battle pass system is where they plan to distribute DLC planes depending on how long they plan to support the online mode (but maybe you will be able to just buy past battle passes too?) but you can unlock skins through the online mode that you can use on your single player planes too.The multiplayer isn't terrible, if you are adverse to playing with any form of direct PvP the co-op assault mode are basically just glorified score attack missions that you "compete" for score but in practice the score and rankings are easy to ignore, and the 8 player boss battle missions you get to do are pretty fun, and this is from someone who usually avoids multiplayer modes. You can upgrade your planes in multiplayer to levels of performance greater than what you can accomplish in the campaign too so it's a fun little casual sandbox for when you want to play with just your favorite planes.
I can't even play the game because easy anti cheat sharted itself and now won't let the game launchI don't even play multiplayer for fuck sake.
>>749025224you unlock skins for campaign through online. and every once in a while you get emergency missions that are past games mega weapons boss fights. Also online uses music from all of the games.
>>749033058samei feel like the last mission was a bit lame, but overall i had a good time.
>>749033194>>749033367My issue is cause the trees are split between single player and multiplayer I don't really want to invest a lot into multiplayer to unlock a bunch of stuff. I'd rather just play a couple games here and there for fun and otherwise focus on single player.
>>749031334you get a (very slight) HP boost according to the stats
>>749030696It's okay, even Pixy admits they were probably hiding Belkan forces.Just like Hofnung, every target was a legitimate military target, and anyone claiming otherwise is spreading Belkan propaganda.I did not fire at civilians, my thermobarics and spreader bombs were only used on legitimate military targets.
>>749033520i agreei didn't like the streamer jumping around the deck watching his viewcount and chasing missiles one at a time was a bit boring. nice as an epilogue mission but it could've had a bit more going on
>>749031028<<It's not a warcrime if there's no one alive to accuse me! This war ends here!>>
is Dealer best AWACS?
>>749033520>>749034173I like the idea behind the mission, but it needs something to bump up the intensity instead of allowing you to spawn camp the missiles.
>>749034483the final reveal was funny but I like the fat fuck in 7 better
>>749034602Ignore the tasha thread in the catalog, all the culture war tourists are in it
